From Jamz@AirNet.Com.AU Tue Jul 24 21:35:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from exchange01.airnet.com.au (apathy.tristesse.org [203.34.190.136]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC87C45BA for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2001 21:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by exchange01.office.adl.airnet.com.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 14:09:30 +0930 Message-ID: <9CA159BC716ED4119907009027F658335DB716@exchange01.office.adl.airnet.com.au> From: Jamz@AirNet.Com.AU To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: ADVERT: NCR WaveLAN Cards Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 14:09:29 +0930 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C114C3.CAE7957C" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C114C3.CAE7957C Content-Type: text/plain List, Sorry for the interruption, I am selling two (2) WaveLAN cards (the full length ISA type). One of the cards is still sealed in static bag, the other was used once. If anyone is interested you can take a look at them here: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem &item=1258281186 or negotiate with me via email. I am looking for about $90 each for them + postage. I am in Adelaide. Cheers, Jamz. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C114C3.CAE7957C Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

List,

            = Sorry for the interruption, I am selling two (2) WaveLAN cards (the full length ISA type).  = One of the cards is still sealed in static bag, the other was used once.  If anyone is interested you = can take a look at them here: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ite= m=3D1258281186 or negotiate with me via email.  = I am looking for about $90 each for them + postage.  I am in = Adelaide.

 

Cheers,

            = Jamz.

 

------_=_NextPart_001_01C114C3.CAE7957C-- From r.scholten@physics.unimelb.edu.au Thu Jul 26 05:55:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from optics.ph.unimelb.edu.au (optics.ph.unimelb.edu.au [128.250.51.189]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 711E5451B for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 05:55:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (scholten@localhost) by optics.ph.unimelb.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA27415; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 23:00:01 +1000 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: optics.ph.unimelb.edu.au: scholten owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 23:00:01 +1000 (EST) From: Robert Scholten X-Sender: scholten@optics.ph.unimelb.edu.au Reply-To: Robert Scholten To: wireless@lists.samba.org Cc: jt@hpl.hp.com Subject: Lucent can no longer ad-hoc demo Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ I just received 4 x Orinoco Silver. Firmware release 7.52. Alas, I can no longer set these to the proprietary Ad-Hoc Demo mode. I have downgraded the firmware to 7.28, 6.16 and 6.06 but alas, to no avail. Tried iwpriv and I get the message "no private ioctls", and similarly if I try "iwpriv eth0 set_port3 1". This is a bloody nuisance! Anyone know how to get it to work in the old demo mode? I'll have to see if I can swap them for older ones or replace them with Cabletrons. -- Robert Scholten Tel: +61 3 8344 5457 Mob: 0412 834 196 School of Physics Fax: +61 3 9347 4783 University of Melbourne email: r.scholten@physics.unimelb.edu.au Victoria 3010 AUSTRALIA http://www.ph.unimelb.edu.au/~scholten From r.scholten@physics.unimelb.edu.au Thu Jul 26 06:13:08 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from optics.ph.unimelb.edu.au (optics.ph.unimelb.edu.au [128.250.51.189]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E4B4268 for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 06:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (scholten@localhost) by optics.ph.unimelb.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA04879; Thu, 26 Jul 2001 23:18:08 +1000 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: optics.ph.unimelb.edu.au: scholten owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 23:18:08 +1000 (EST) From: Robert Scholten X-Sender: scholten@optics.ph.unimelb.edu.au Reply-To: Robert Scholten To: wireless@lists.samba.org Cc: jt@hpl.hp.com Subject: Lucent *can* do ad-hoc demo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Very sorry all - I was inadvertantly using wvlan_cs which doesn't allow the iwpriv set_port3 switching of ad-hoc modes. The cards work just fine in old ad-hoc demo mode now. -- Robert Scholten Tel: +61 3 8344 5457 Mob: 0412 834 196 School of Physics Fax: +61 3 9347 4783 University of Melbourne email: r.scholten@physics.unimelb.edu.au Victoria 3010 AUSTRALIA http://www.ph.unimelb.edu.au/~scholten From teddy@angin.com Fri Jul 27 00:04:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from rhino.angin.com (unknown [202.77.117.98]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B95A422C for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 00:04:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 27296 invoked by uid 1058); 27 Jul 2001 07:09:38 -0000 Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 14:09:38 +0700 From: Teddy To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: error writing packet Message-ID: <20010727140938.A27255@rhino.angin.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i Organization: Angin.COM Job: Network Operation Staff Messages: Go Linux !!! X-Mailer: Teddy Mail (version 0.1_rev3) Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ I have some error message that I do not know, anyone can help me ?? Jul 27 14:03:35 Cheetah kernel: eth2: Ad-hoc demo mode supported. Jul 27 14:03:35 Cheetah kernel: eth2: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported. Jul 27 14:03:35 Cheetah kernel: eth2: WEP supported, "128"-bit key. Jul 27 14:03:35 Cheetah kernel: eth2: MAC address 00:02:2D:0B:C0:00 Jul 27 14:03:35 Cheetah kernel: eth2: Station name "HERMES I" Jul 27 14:03:35 Cheetah kernel: eth2: ready Jul 27 14:03:35 Cheetah kernel: eth2: index 0x01: Vcc 5.0, irq 5, io 0x0200-0x023f Jul 27 14:03:37 Cheetah kernel: eth2: Error -5 writing packet data to BAP Jul 27 14:04:17 Cheetah last message repeated 16 times Jul 27 14:05:16 Cheetah last message repeated 8 times -- Teddy From teddy@angin.com Fri Jul 27 09:37:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from rhino.angin.com (unknown [202.77.117.98]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B65451D5 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 09:37:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19451 invoked by uid 1058); 27 Jul 2001 16:42:16 -0000 Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 23:42:16 +0700 From: Teddy To: Anthony Wesley Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: error writing packet Message-ID: <20010727234216.A19381@rhino.angin.com> References: <20010727140938.A27255@rhino.angin.com> <3B6117E4.49DA1C11@acquerra.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3B6117E4.49DA1C11@acquerra.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i Organization: Angin.COM Job: Network Operation Staff Messages: Go Linux !!! X-Mailer: Teddy Mail (version 0.1_rev3) Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 05:27:32PM +1000, Anthony Wesley wrote: > Teddy wrote: > > > > I have some error message that I do not know, > > anyone can help me ?? > > > > Jul 27 14:03:35 Cheetah kernel: eth2: Ad-hoc demo mode supported. > > Jul 27 14:03:35 Cheetah kernel: eth2: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported. > > Jul 27 14:03:35 Cheetah kernel: eth2: WEP supported, "128"-bit key. > > Jul 27 14:03:35 Cheetah kernel: eth2: MAC address 00:02:2D:0B:C0:00 > > Jul 27 14:03:35 Cheetah kernel: eth2: Station name "HERMES I" > > Jul 27 14:03:35 Cheetah kernel: eth2: ready > > Jul 27 14:03:35 Cheetah kernel: eth2: index 0x01: Vcc 5.0, irq 5, io 0x0200-0x023f > > Jul 27 14:03:37 Cheetah kernel: eth2: Error -5 writing packet data to BAP > > Jul 27 14:04:17 Cheetah last message repeated 16 times > > Jul 27 14:05:16 Cheetah last message repeated 8 times > > > > -- > > Teddy > > what card are you using? i`m using orinoco 11Mbit/s Silver card .... 2 PC Card in one box ... with ad-hoc demo mode .... > cheers, Anthony -- Teddy From benoitt@iquebec.com Fri Jul 27 13:08:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from volunteer.volunteernetwork.ca (HSE-Sherbrooke-ppp79748.qc.sympatico.ca [64.229.253.191]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7DB1477C for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 13:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from apache@localhost) by volunteer.volunteernetwork.ca (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f6RGKLk01399; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 12:20:21 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 12:20:21 -0400 Message-Id: <200107271620.f6RGKLk01399@volunteer.volunteernetwork.ca> From: "Benoit Tanguay" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Reply-To: benoit.tanguay@volunteernetwork.ca Subject: Hi X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.24 X-IPAddress: 207.236.210.164 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hi .. I'm a new user in the list and i'm looking for some information. I'm not in Australia :-( .. I have read the website of the Canberra Wireless Network and i wand to do the same in my place (Quebec, Canada) ... Did the system of the wireless network can cover a large distance like 50 km of distance? Because some people here are very far of the others.. Can the speed be more then 2 mpbs.. like 10mpbs... or 100mbps? if yes withc type of card and antenna i need... Do you have some company that sell this cards or any others informations. Any website or list will me great :) . I know that it not funny no explain to a newbie what it wireless network... but i Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from zooty.lancs.ac.uk (zooty.lancs.ac.uk [148.88.16.231]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC134152 for ; Sat, 28 Jul 2001 03:44:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exchange-ims.lancs.ac.uk ([148.88.17.22]) by zooty.lancs.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15QRfB-0002sw-00 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2001 11:49:41 +0100 Received: by exchange-ims.lancs.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Sat, 28 Jul 2001 11:49:42 +0100 Message-ID: <45EA1063C2F8D211915800204808343B01F0DE3B@exchange1.lancs.ac.uk> From: "Dent, Mike" To: "'wireless@lists.samba.org'" Subject: Orinoco silver, ISA pcmcia adaptor and Redhat 7.1, problems. Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 11:49:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hi, I've had a quick look back through the mailing list archives but could not see anything which is similar to my problem. I suspect I am at a very early stage in getting these Orinoco cards working in a linux box. I've played with the early version 1 and version 2 ISA wavelan cards under linux with good success in the past. I've borrowed a pair of the Orinoco Silver cards and the ISA bridges that come with them. I'd like to get them working in Linux, Redhat 7.1. I think I have come unstuck at the first hurdle! The ISA<>PCMCIA card does not seem to be recognised by the kernel isapnp at boot time? I tried another ISA network card in just to check and that is recognised fine by isapnp. So I took the card out to test it in a Windows 98 PC, just to make sure it was ok and it is. So, what am I doing wrong at this early stage? Has anybody written a howto for these Orinoco cards in ISA adaptors under Linux? Many thanks, Mike. g6phf. From m.dent@lancaster.ac.uk Sat Jul 28 03:47:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from zooty.lancs.ac.uk (zooty.lancs.ac.uk [148.88.16.231]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2367D4152 for ; Sat, 28 Jul 2001 03:47:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exchange-ims.lancs.ac.uk ([148.88.17.22]) by zooty.lancs.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15QRhl-0002uB-00 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2001 11:52:21 +0100 Received: by exchange-ims.lancs.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Sat, 28 Jul 2001 11:52:22 +0100 Message-ID: <45EA1063C2F8D211915800204808343B01F0DE3C@exchange1.lancs.ac.uk> From: "Dent, Mike" To: "'wireless@lists.samba.org'" Subject: Orinoco silver, ISA pcmcia adaptor and Redhat 7.1, problems. Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 11:52:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hi, I've had a quick look back through the mailing list archives but could not see anything which is similar to my problem. I suspect I am at a very early stage in getting these Orinoco cards working in a linux box. I've played with the early version 1 and version 2 ISA wavelan cards under linux with good success in the past. I've borrowed a pair of the Orinoco Silver cards and the ISA bridges that come with them. I'd like to get them working in Linux, Redhat 7.1. I think I have come unstuck at the first hurdle! The ISA<>PCMCIA card does not seem to be recognised by the kernel isapnp at boot time? I tried another ISA network card in just to check and that is recognised fine by isapnp. So I took the card out to test it in a Windows 98 PC, just to make sure it was ok and it is. So, what am I doing wrong at this early stage? Has anybody written a howto for these Orinoco cards in ISA adaptors under Linux? Many thanks, Mike. g6phf. From jefreypu@onebox.com Sat Jul 28 18:05:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mta04.onebox.com (unknown [64.68.77.147]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88CB419D for ; Sat, 28 Jul 2001 18:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onebox.com ([10.1.111.11]) by mta04.onebox.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.21 201-229-121-121-20010307) with SMTP id <20010729010958.PTBN26282.mta04.onebox.com@onebox.com> for ; Sat, 28 Jul 2001 18:09:58 -0700 Received: from [64.169.93.158] by onebox.com with HTTP; Sat, 28 Jul 2001 18:09:58 -0700 Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 18:09:58 -0700 Subject: orinoco_cs insmod problems Reply-To: jefreypu@alum.mit.edu From: "That Jeff Guy" To: wireless@lists.samba.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="1BoxPartBoundary9963689981488996368998" Message-Id: <20010729010958.PTBN26282.mta04.onebox.com@onebox.com> Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --1BoxPartBoundary9963689981488996368998 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'm trying to build and install the orinoco_cs driver, but when I run insmod, I get these unresolved dependencies: orinoco_cs.o: unresolved symbol dldwd_proc_dev_init orinoco_cs.o: unresolved symbol dldwd_setup orinoco_cs.o: unresolved symbol dldwd_shutdown orinoco_cs.o: unresolved symbol dldwd_proc_dev_cleanup orinoco_cs.o: unresolved symbol dldwd_reset orinoco_cs.o: unresolved symbol dldwd_interrupt Has anyone seen this before/know the resolution? I would appreciate any assistance. Thanks! -Jeffrey Poore Jeffrey Poore - jeffguy@tellme.com - jefreypu@alum.mit.edu That Jeff Guy - Infrastructure Engineer - Tellme Networks w: 650-930-9304 c: 650-270-3979 f: 650-417-2059 x1624 Revolutionizing how people and businesses use the telephone. Tellme, the phone as it can be. Find out more @ www.tellme.com __________________________________________________ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com --1BoxPartBoundary9963689981488996368998 Content-type: application/octet-stream; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment bnRlbnQtVHJhbnNmZXItRW5jb2Rpbmc6IGJpbmFyeQ0KDQo= --1BoxPartBoundary9963689981488996368998 Content-type: application/octet-stream; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment bnRlbnQtVHJhbnNmZXItRW5jb2Rpbmc6IGJpbmFyeQ0KDQo= --1BoxPartBoundary9963689981488996368998 Content-type: application/octet-stream; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment bnRlbnQtVHJhbnNmZXItRW5jb2Rpbmc6IGJpbmFyeQ0KDQo= --1BoxPartBoundary9963689981488996368998-- From bhards@bigpond.net.au Sat Jul 28 19:05:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailin1.bigpond.com (juicer13.bigpond.com [139.134.6.21]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE6D452C for ; Sat, 28 Jul 2001 19:05:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bigpond.net.au ([144.135.24.75]) by mailin1.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GH7QAL00.0S9; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 12:15:57 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-178-48.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.178.48]) by bwmam03.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9g 8323/9823303); 29 Jul 2001 12:15:57 Message-ID: <3B63706D.EC2918FE@bigpond.net.au> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 12:09:49 +1000 From: Brad Hards Reply-To: bhards@bigpond.net.au X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.6-ac2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jefreypu@alum.mit.edu Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: orinoco_cs insmod problems References: <20010729010958.PTBN26282.mta04.onebox.com@onebox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ That Jeff Guy wrote: > > I'm trying to build and install the orinoco_cs driver, but when I run > insmod, I get these unresolved dependencies: > > orinoco_cs.o: unresolved symbol dldwd_proc_dev_init > orinoco_cs.o: unresolved symbol dldwd_setup > orinoco_cs.o: unresolved symbol dldwd_shutdown > orinoco_cs.o: unresolved symbol dldwd_proc_dev_cleanup > orinoco_cs.o: unresolved symbol dldwd_reset > orinoco_cs.o: unresolved symbol dldwd_interrupt > > Has anyone seen this before/know the resolution? I would appreciate any > assistance. modprobe, don't insmod. This will sort out the dependencies for you. insmod is mainly for device testing. The reason why it fails is that there is a modular architecture for this driver, based on hermes, orinoco and orinoco_cs modules. You should see each of these modules in your modules directory. In your case, you don't have orinoco.o loaded. Brad From jefreypu@onebox.com Sat Jul 28 20:39:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mta08.onebox.com (mta08.onebox.com [64.68.76.143]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AADDF4160 for ; Sat, 28 Jul 2001 20:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onebox.com ([10.1.101.7]) by mta08.onebox.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.21 201-229-121-121-20010307) with SMTP id <20010729034445.LMSE18626.mta08.onebox.com@onebox.com>; Sat, 28 Jul 2001 20:44:45 -0700 Received: from [63.196.0.11] by onebox.com with HTTP; Sat, 28 Jul 2001 20:44:45 -0700 Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 20:44:45 -0700 Subject: Re: orinoco_cs insmod problems Reply-To: jefreypu@alum.mit.edu From: "That Jeff Guy" To: bhards@bigpond.net.au Cc: jefreypu@alum.mit.edu, wireless@lists.samba.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="1BoxPartBoundary9963782852735996378285" Message-Id: <20010729034445.LMSE18626.mta08.onebox.com@onebox.com> Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --1BoxPartBoundary9963782852735996378285 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I use modprobe and I still get the same dependency failure. I had some problems compiling it as well, and had to add in some variable declarations that were missing (Is there a good place to get up-to-date source for this?). I have all the .o files, including orinico.o and orinoco_cs.o, and modprobe works fine on everything execept orinoco_cs. -Jeffrey Jeffrey Poore - jeffguy@tellme.com - jefreypu@alum.mit.edu That Jeff Guy - Infrastructure Engineer - Tellme Networks w: 650-930-9304 c: 650-270-3979 f: 650-417-2059 x1624 Revolutionizing how people and businesses use the telephone. Tellme, the phone as it can be. Find out more @ www.tellme.com ---- Brad Hards wrote: > That Jeff Guy wrote: > > > > I'm trying to build and install the orinoco_cs driver, but when I > run > > insmod, I get these unresolved dependencies: > > > > orinoco_cs.o: unresolved symbol dldwd_proc_dev_init > > orinoco_cs.o: unresolved symbol dldwd_setup > > orinoco_cs.o: unresolved symbol dldwd_shutdown > > orinoco_cs.o: unresolved symbol dldwd_proc_dev_cleanup > > orinoco_cs.o: unresolved symbol dldwd_reset > > orinoco_cs.o: unresolved symbol dldwd_interrupt > > > > Has anyone seen this before/know the resolution? I would appreciate > any > > assistance. > modprobe, don't insmod. This will sort out the dependencies for you. > insmod is > mainly for device testing. > > The reason why it fails is that there is a modular architecture for > this > driver, based on hermes, orinoco and orinoco_cs modules. You should > see each > of these modules in your modules directory. In your case, you don't > have > orinoco.o loaded. > > Brad > __________________________________________________ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com --1BoxPartBoundary9963782852735996378285 Content-type: application/octet-stream; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment bnRlbnQtVHJhbnNmZXItRW5jb2Rpbmc6IGJpbmFyeQ0KDQo= --1BoxPartBoundary9963782852735996378285 Content-type: application/octet-stream; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment bnRlbnQtVHJhbnNmZXItRW5jb2Rpbmc6IGJpbmFyeQ0KDQo= --1BoxPartBoundary9963782852735996378285 Content-type: application/octet-stream; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment bnRlbnQtVHJhbnNmZXItRW5jb2Rpbmc6IGJpbmFyeQ0KDQo= --1BoxPartBoundary9963782852735996378285-- From bhards@bigpond.net.au Sat Jul 28 21:22:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailin2.email.bigpond.com (juicer14.bigpond.com [139.134.6.23]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E5A44199 for ; Sat, 28 Jul 2001 21:22:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bigpond.net.au ([144.135.24.75]) by mailin2.email.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GH7WNK00.A47; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 14:33:20 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-178-48.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.178.48]) by bwmam03.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9g 8323/9927080); 29 Jul 2001 14:33:20 Message-ID: <3B63909F.7A5CC0AE@bigpond.net.au> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 14:27:12 +1000 From: Brad Hards Reply-To: bhards@bigpond.net.au X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.6-ac2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jefreypu@alum.mit.edu Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: orinoco_cs insmod problems References: <20010729034445.LMSE18626.mta08.onebox.com@onebox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ That Jeff Guy wrote: > > I use modprobe and I still get the same dependency failure. I had some > problems compiling it as well, and had to add in some variable declarations > that were missing (Is there a good place to get up-to-date source for > this?). This shouldn't be required. The most up to date source (that I know of) is a current -ac kernel. Which kernel are you using? > I have all the .o files, including orinico.o and orinoco_cs.o, and modprobe > works fine on everything execept orinoco_cs. Did you make modules_install (or at least manually depmod)? Can you please provide a history for what you have done and the exact errors you are seeing (not "the same", but a cut'n'paste)? Brad From bhards@bigpond.net.au Sun Jul 29 03:31:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailin2.email.bigpond.com (juicer14.bigpond.com [139.134.6.23]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D3549BA for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 03:31:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bigpond.net.au ([144.135.24.75]) by mailin2.email.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GH8DQ200.86Z; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 20:42:02 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-178-48.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.178.48]) by bwmam03.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9g 8323/10211575); 29 Jul 2001 20:42:02 Message-ID: <3B63E709.98DAA9C5@bigpond.net.au> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 20:35:53 +1000 From: Brad Hards Reply-To: bhards@bigpond.net.au X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.6-ac2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Still , wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: usb orinoco References: <20010723194549.55345.qmail@web9704.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Bill Still wrote: > > --- Brad Hards wrote: > > > You said that your device was a USB to PCMCIA > > adapter, with a PCMCIA card > > plugged in. Can you tell me what the chipset/chip in > > the adapter is? > > 1 big chip 1 smaller chip. Whole thing > is called lucent technologies usb interface. > Big chip is Cypress EZ-USB FX CY7C64613-128NC. This is a programmable microcontroller. Typically it requires a firmware download. The good news is that the firmware downloader code is already written for a couple of other USB applications. The bad news is that the vendor commands could be just about anything. > Little chip is CY7C1399L. The orinoco pcmcia 32Kx8 SRAM. > card fits right in. It's absolutely the same > pcmcia card sold for pcmcia, pulling the card out > of the usb interface and putting it into my > pcmcia card works just like my other pcmcia > orinococ cards. So the device is probably a USB to PCMCIA bridge, possibly with some limitations. If so, the Linux driver could be implemented as part of PCMCIA infrastructure (e.g. as a peer to i82365 or tcic). This would probably allow use of the existing orinoco/hermes driver without too many changes. > >Who makes > > the device (ideally, who's name is on the PCB, > > rather than on the outside of > > the box)? > > lucent technolgies usb interface is > printed on the circuit board but the chip says > cypress. I have just asked for some data on Lucent's enquiry web page. If anyone has a proper contact at Lucent, what we need is the firmware image (although this could probably be extracted from either the Windows driver, or from the device after it has been loaded) and the USB vendor commands for the device with the firmware image loaded. It is pretty unlikely that Cypress will have much information - it doesn't seem to be one of their reference designs. Brad From chris@net.ai Sun Jul 29 06:19:09 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from oceanus.chrismason.net (sub-168ip66.carats.net [216.152.168.66]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999694242 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 06:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from poseiden ([192.168.0.4]) by oceanus.chrismason.net (8.11.2/8.8.7) with SMTP id f6TDMjT31403 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 09:22:45 -0400 From: "Chris Mason" To: Subject: Fitting extension antenna Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 09:23:56 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ I'm seeking a little knowledge for the learned members of this list. My current setup is a Proxim Home RF syste, one cordless gateway, a Desktop with an external antenna, and two laptops, one Linux, one Windows. The Cordless gatewayt has an internal antenna and does not have sufficient range. Our house is concrete which is a problem, as we can only get signal in certain parts of the house. I would like to add a high gain external antenna to the cordless gateway, could anyone assist me with this modification. I can send a photo of the internals of the unit if someone can give me a bit of advice. Chris Mason masonc@masonc.com Box 340, The Valley, Anguilla, British West Indies Tel: 264 497 5670 Fax: 264 497 8463 Take a virtual tour of the island http://www.anguillaguide.com/ The Anguilla Guide Find your perfect rental villa www.mycaribbean.com Talk to me in real time with Instant Messenger: masonc92@hotmail.com or ICQ 118159388 Signature F331 8AD1 36FB B3B0 DF9F D95B 8024 D1EA 7450 D50C From xchen@superpass.com Sun Jul 29 13:47:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts7.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.40]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1FC422D for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 13:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xchen ([65.92.46.89]) by tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010729205215.XLSO2118.tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@xchen>; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 16:52:15 -0400 Reply-To: From: "SuperPass" To: "Chris Mason" , Subject: Re: Fitting extension antenna Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 17:16:52 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010729205215.XLSO2118.tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@xchen> Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Check at http://www.superpass.com Regards John ---------- > From: Chris Mason > To: wireless@lists.samba.org > Subject: Fitting extension antenna > Date: Sunday, July 29, 2001 9:23 AM > > I'm seeking a little knowledge for the learned members of this list. My > current setup is a Proxim Home RF syste, one cordless gateway, a Desktop > with an external antenna, and two laptops, one Linux, one Windows. > The Cordless gatewayt has an internal antenna and does not have sufficient > range. Our house is concrete which is a problem, as we can only get signal > in certain parts of the house. > I would like to add a high gain external antenna to the cordless gateway, > could anyone assist me with this modification. I can send a photo of the > internals of the unit if someone can give me a bit of advice. > > Chris Mason > masonc@masonc.com > Box 340, The Valley, Anguilla, British West Indies > Tel: 264 497 5670 Fax: 264 497 8463 > Take a virtual tour of the island > http://www.anguillaguide.com/ The Anguilla Guide > Find your perfect rental villa www.mycaribbean.com > Talk to me in real time with Instant Messenger: masonc92@hotmail.com > or ICQ 118159388 > Signature F331 8AD1 36FB B3B0 DF9F D95B 8024 D1EA 7450 D50C > From awesley@acquerra.com.au Sun Jul 29 16:46:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from triton.bird.org (CPE-61-9-150-217.vic.bigpond.net.au [61.9.150.217]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995B74154 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 16:46:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acquerra.com.au (saturn.bird.org [192.168.3.12]) by triton.bird.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22851; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 09:42:00 +1000 Message-ID: <3B64A3E3.6B88C6FD@acquerra.com.au> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 10:01:39 +1000 From: Anthony Wesley Reply-To: awesley@acquerra.com.au Organization: Acquerra Pty Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dent, Mike" , wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: Orinoco silver, ISA pcmcia adaptor and Redhat 7.1, problems. References: <45EA1063C2F8D211915800204808343B01F0DE3B@exchange1.lancs.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ "Dent, Mike" wrote: > > Hi, I've had a quick look back through the mailing list archives but > could not see anything which is similar to my problem. > > I suspect I am at a very early stage in getting these Orinoco cards > working in a linux box. > I've played with the early version 1 and version 2 ISA wavelan cards > under linux with good success in the past. > > I've borrowed a pair of the Orinoco Silver cards and the ISA bridges that come > with them. > I'd like to get them working in Linux, Redhat 7.1. > > I think I have come unstuck at the first hurdle! The ISA<>PCMCIA card > does not seem to be recognised by the kernel isapnp at boot time? > I tried another ISA network card in just to check and that is recognised > fine by isapnp. > > So I took the card out to test it in a Windows 98 PC, just to make sure it > was ok and it is. > > So, what am I doing wrong at this early stage? Has anybody written a howto > for these Orinoco cards in ISA adaptors under Linux? > > Many thanks, Mike, I had these cards working fine in a 2.2.18 kernel, went to a 2.4.7 kernel and they were not recognised! The reason is simple, but annoying - the kernel-based drivers don't scan port 0x3e2 when trying to detect the card, so they will not see the ISA adapter if you have left it o its default settings (like most of us do I suspect). The answer is to change some lines in /etc/sysconfig/pcmcia to this: PCIC=i82365 PCIC_OPTS=i365_base=0x3e2 try it and let me know. CONFIG_ISA must also be declared when the drivers were compiled. There have been MANY changes to the way wavelan/ orinoco cards are handled by the 2.4 series kernels. The kernel-based drivers have changed quite a bit in each release. I think that the kernel you have now will work, but you should think about upgrading to the 2.4.7 kernel + the latest orinoco patches from David Gibson. At this point in time, the only place to get a 2.4.7 kernel with Davids latest patches included is http://www.acquerra.com.au/personal/bird/orinoco This is not a public repository, and may go away when David has released his latest stuff, maybe in 2.4.8 ?? (David - do you read this list?) cheers, Anthony From awesley@acquerra.com.au Sun Jul 29 16:55:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from triton.bird.org (CPE-61-9-150-217.vic.bigpond.net.au [61.9.150.217]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 104934190 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 16:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acquerra.com.au (saturn.bird.org [192.168.3.12]) by triton.bird.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22875; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 09:50:03 +1000 Message-ID: <3B64A5C6.BBB8510A@acquerra.com.au> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 10:09:42 +1000 From: Anthony Wesley Reply-To: awesley@acquerra.com.au Organization: Acquerra Pty Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bhards@bigpond.net.au Cc: jefreypu@alum.mit.edu, wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: orinoco_cs insmod problems References: <20010729034445.LMSE18626.mta08.onebox.com@onebox.com> <3B63909F.7A5CC0AE@bigpond.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Brad Hards wrote: > > That Jeff Guy wrote: > > > > I use modprobe and I still get the same dependency failure. I had some > > problems compiling it as well, and had to add in some variable declarations > > that were missing (Is there a good place to get up-to-date source for > > this?). > This shouldn't be required. The most up to date source (that I know of) is a > current -ac kernel. Which kernel are you using? Actually the latest source is from David Gibsons page, but it has some syntax errors to be fixed before it compiles (tsk tsk - late night hacking again??) ( www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson ) Also the Makefile is not suitable for dropping ths source as-is into a 2.4.x kernel source tree, but a bit of inspection shows that it is easy enough to mangle it into working. I did not try to compile it standalone - I built it as part of a "make modules" kernel compile, and it all worked ok. cheers, Anthony From david@gibson.dropbear.id.au Sun Jul 29 18:22:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from localhost (sydney3.au.ibm.com [202.135.142.201]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113684581 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 18:22:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dgibson by localhost with local (Exim 3.31 #1 (Debian)) id 15R1or-0006k1-00 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:26:05 +1000 Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:26:05 +1000 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: orinoco_cs insmod problems Message-ID: <20010730112605.N8476@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3B64A5C6.BBB8510A@acquerra.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 10:09:42AM +1000, Anthony Wesley wrote: > Brad Hards wrote: > > > > That Jeff Guy wrote: > > > > > > I use modprobe and I still get the same dependency failure. I had some > > > problems compiling it as well, and had to add in some variable declarations > > > that were missing (Is there a good place to get up-to-date source for > > > this?). > > This shouldn't be required. The most up to date source (that I know of) is a > > current -ac kernel. Which kernel are you using? > > Actually the latest source is from David Gibsons page, but it has some > syntax > errors to be fixed before it compiles (tsk tsk - late night hacking > again??) Yeah, mea culpa, I fixed the bug but forgot to upload it to the website. > ( www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson ) > > Also the Makefile is not suitable for dropping ths source as-is into a > 2.4.x > kernel source tree, but a bit of inspection shows that it is easy enough > to > mangle it into working. Well, you shouldn't need to change the Makefile from the kernel for anything since about 2.4.5 - it already includes the orinoco driver. > I did not try to compile it standalone - I built it as part of a "make > modules" > kernel compile, and it all worked ok. If you compile standalone you will need to copy all three modules into /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/wireless, then run "depmod -a" to update the dependency table, then use modprobe. Or you can load the 'hermes.o', 'orinoco.o' and 'orinoco_cs.o' modules in that order. -- David Gibson | Microsoft: Making the easy things hard david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | and the hard things buggy http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From utmweihuang@hotmail.com Sun Jul 29 20:42:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from hotmail.com (f137.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.137]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA359442D for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 20:42:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 20:47:08 -0700 Received: from 203.121.53.62 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 03:47:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.121.53.62] From: "LEE WEI HUANG" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Help ? Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:47:08 +0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2001 03:47:08.0695 (UTC) FILETIME=[4EB31270:01C118AA] Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/
 
Hi,
 
I'm a new user to wireless LAN. I've just bought 3 Orinoco Wavelan card (Gold), and two PCI Adapters. I've followed the steps given by Lucent on Linux Drivers ver 6.01.
Have unpack the PCMCIA-CS-3.1.27 and the wlli602 file in the same folder. Run make config, make all , su and make install.
 
Now the problem is, what is the next step ? How do i get my card working. It hangs when i slot the card into the adapter. I've confgures the card using Linuxconf and leaved the kernel module blank.
 
Help ? I've really no idea.
 
Thank you,
Jason

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From J.P.Knight@lboro.ac.uk Mon Jul 30 05:25:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailer1.lut.ac.uk (mailer1.lut.ac.uk [158.125.1.202]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66DA471C for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 05:25:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jon (helo=localhost) by mailer1.lut.ac.uk with local-smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 15RCC1-0006iN-00; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:30:41 +0100 Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:30:37 +0100 (BST) From: Jon Knight X-Sender: jon@mailer1 To: benoit.tanguay@volunteernetwork.ca Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Hi In-Reply-To: <200107271620.f6RGKLk01399@volunteer.volunteernetwork.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Lboro-Filtered: mailer1.lut.ac.uk, Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:30:41 +0100 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Benoit Tanguay wrote: > Did the system of the wireless network can cover a large distance like > 50 km of distance? Because some people here are very far of the > others.. Can the speed be more then 2 mpbs.. like 10mpbs... or 100mbps? You can get wireless gear that will go long distances with high bandwidths but its not the consumer grade 802.11b stuff that folks on this list play with. For example we've got a microwave link to a site about 30 miles from us that delivers 155Mbps ATM (which is a bit of a pity as we've otherwise managed to rid ourselves of the curse of ATM) but it costs a fortune to both install and maintain and even it needs repeater stations along the path (which is partly why it is so expensive). Not the sort of thing for hobbyists (or even small companies) to play with. So in my experience with the 802.11b stuff that is currently cheaply available the most you'll get from a long range link is an effective throughput of upto 5Mbps (usually less) and a range upto 2 or 3 miles ,depending on the antennas you have and whether you have a clear _microwave_ (not necessarily optical) Line of Sight (LoS). Tatty bye, Jim'll From m.dent@lancaster.ac.uk Mon Jul 30 12:44:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from zooty.lancs.ac.uk (zooty.lancs.ac.uk [148.88.16.231]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD20B4B6E for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:44:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exchange-ims.lancs.ac.uk ([148.88.17.22]) by zooty.lancs.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15RJ2Z-0001FW-00 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 20:49:23 +0100 Received: by exchange-ims.lancs.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 20:49:25 +0100 Message-ID: <45EA1063C2F8D211915800204808343B01F0DE44@exchange1.lancs.ac.uk> From: "Dent, Mike" To: "'wireless@lists.samba.org'" Subject: Orinoco card & Wavelan V2 card? Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 20:49:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hi, I'm sure I saw mention somewhere that the Orinoco cards (when running at 2mb/s) can talk to the Wavelan version 2 cards, (short ISA, 2mb/s)? thanks Mike From snoop9@hushmail.com Mon Jul 30 15:45:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from smtp4.hushmail.com (smtp4.hushmail.com [64.40.111.32]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 808E34B4B for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 15:45:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailserver1d.hushmail.com (mailserver1.hushmail.com [64.40.111.27]) by smtp4.hushmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBEC137F5; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 15:46:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by mailserver1d.hushmail.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f6UMkIj22999; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 15:46:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from snoop9@hushmail.com) Message-Id: <200107302246.f6UMkIj22999@mailserver1d.hushmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain To: wireless@lists.bawug.org Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org subject: RG-1000 Case From: snoop9@hushmail.com date: Mon Jul 30 18:02:16 CDT 2001 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Earlier there was a post about how one could snap open the RG-1000 case and remove the modem daughterboard, to make room to thread throw a pigtail. Great idea, thanks.... Could some who has done this please explain how they go the case snapped apart? I don't want to break the cheap plastic tabs. BTW, the Summer Version 7.1 sotware and firmware push is great. I have loaded it and now configure the RG using the AP manager. Besides being able to configure your own SSID name, there is just more control over it than there was before. Still haven't tested roaming capability. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Hush 2.0 wlsEARECABsFAjtl53gUHHNub29wOUBodXNobWFpbC5jb20ACgkQcINCEeyS3lzGdgCf ZHEHmx1d3HC9husMmAbA1o+sUYkAnAwQAtCn/+KjyysVAROZNzubaW1c =reVe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Free, secure Web-based email, now OpenPGP compliant - www.hushmail.com From adam@box3n.gumbynet.org Mon Jul 30 15:58:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from box3n.gumbynet.org (box3n.gumbynet.org [203.37.96.52]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B9A4BF6 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 15:58:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (adam@localhost) by box3n.gumbynet.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id JAA28507; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 09:02:27 +1000 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 09:02:26 +1000 (EST) From: Adam To: SuperPass Cc: Chris Mason , wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Fitting extension antenna In-Reply-To: <20010729205215.XLSO2118.tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@xchen> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ john, Where on superpass.com does it outline "modification" of chris's proxim card to allow an externel antenna? You've posted "check at superpass.com" so many times to this list I'm beginning to think you are an automated robot who responds to "antenna" If you want to drum up business, please send them a personal email, not to the entire list On Sun, 29 Jul 2001, SuperPass wrote: > Check at http://www.superpass.com > > Regards > > John > > ---------- > > From: Chris Mason > > To: wireless@lists.samba.org > > Subject: Fitting extension antenna > > Date: Sunday, July 29, 2001 9:23 AM > > > > I'm seeking a little knowledge for the learned members of this list. My > > current setup is a Proxim Home RF syste, one cordless gateway, a Desktop > > with an external antenna, and two laptops, one Linux, one Windows. > > The Cordless gatewayt has an internal antenna and does not have > sufficient > > range. Our house is concrete which is a problem, as we can only get > signal > > in certain parts of the house. > > I would like to add a high gain external antenna to the cordless gateway, > > could anyone assist me with this modification. I can send a photo of the > > internals of the unit if someone can give me a bit of advice. > > > > Chris Mason > > masonc@masonc.com > > Box 340, The Valley, Anguilla, British West Indies > > Tel: 264 497 5670 Fax: 264 497 8463 > > Take a virtual tour of the island > > http://www.anguillaguide.com/ The Anguilla Guide > > Find your perfect rental villa www.mycaribbean.com > > Talk to me in real time with Instant Messenger: masonc92@hotmail.com > > or ICQ 118159388 > > Signature F331 8AD1 36FB B3B0 DF9F D95B 8024 D1EA 7450 D50C > > > From masonc@masonc.com Mon Jul 30 16:45:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from oceanus.chrismason.net (sub-168ip66.carats.net [216.152.168.66]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965C94C7C for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 16:45:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from poseiden ([192.168.0.4]) by oceanus.chrismason.net (8.11.2/8.8.7) with SMTP id f6UNkWT03392; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 19:46:32 -0400 From: "Chris Mason" To: "Adam" , "SuperPass" Cc: "Chris Mason" , Subject: RE: Fitting extension antenna Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 19:47:50 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ I'm still looking for a little tech help on fitting an external antenna, anyone want to volunteer? Superpass.com need not apply. -----Original Message----- From: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org [mailto:wireless-admin@lists.samba.org]On Behalf Of Adam Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 7:02 PM To: SuperPass Cc: Chris Mason; wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Fitting extension antenna john, Where on superpass.com does it outline "modification" of chris's proxim card to allow an externel antenna? You've posted "check at superpass.com" so many times to this list I'm beginning to think you are an automated robot who responds to "antenna" If you want to drum up business, please send them a personal email, not to the entire list On Sun, 29 Jul 2001, SuperPass wrote: > Check at http://www.superpass.com > > Regards > > John > > ---------- > > From: Chris Mason > > To: wireless@lists.samba.org > > Subject: Fitting extension antenna > > Date: Sunday, July 29, 2001 9:23 AM > > > > I'm seeking a little knowledge for the learned members of this list. My > > current setup is a Proxim Home RF syste, one cordless gateway, a Desktop > > with an external antenna, and two laptops, one Linux, one Windows. > > The Cordless gatewayt has an internal antenna and does not have > sufficient > > range. Our house is concrete which is a problem, as we can only get > signal > > in certain parts of the house. > > I would like to add a high gain external antenna to the cordless gateway, > > could anyone assist me with this modification. I can send a photo of the > > internals of the unit if someone can give me a bit of advice. > > > > Chris Mason > > masonc@masonc.com > > Box 340, The Valley, Anguilla, British West Indies > > Tel: 264 497 5670 Fax: 264 497 8463 > > Take a virtual tour of the island > > http://www.anguillaguide.com/ The Anguilla Guide > > Find your perfect rental villa www.mycaribbean.com > > Talk to me in real time with Instant Messenger: masonc92@hotmail.com > > or ICQ 118159388 > > Signature F331 8AD1 36FB B3B0 DF9F D95B 8024 D1EA 7450 D50C > > > From info@roxbynet.com Mon Jul 30 16:48:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from dialup.roxbynet.com (unknown [203.38.241.134]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6891243F8 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 16:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hostname ([203.132.97.171]) by dialup.roxbynet.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA06854 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 09:22:59 +0930 Message-ID: <009701c11951$1a54e060$ab6184cb@satellite.bigpond.com> From: "RoxbyNet Info" To: References: Subject: Re: Setting up WLAN Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 09:11:03 +0930 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ I need to consult an expert to help me set up a 750 user wireless LAN for the primary purpose of internet access in a remote mining area......Please HELP....I'm in way over my head!!! Regards, Curt~ From chak@cse.unsw.edu.au Tue Jul 31 01:36:22 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from tone.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU (tone.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.242.28]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 933594475 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 01:36:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: From localhost.localdomain ([129.94.172.152] == fatc.serg.cse.unsw.EDU.AU) (for ) By tone With Smtp ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 18:41:06 +1000 Received: from localhost (IDENT:chak@FateAmenableToChange [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6V8eFp27897 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 18:40:15 +1000 From: "Manuel M. T. Chakravarty" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 18:40:15 +1000 Subject: D-Link DWL-650 & 500 X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.2 on XEmacs 21.1 (Canyonlands) X-URL: http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~chak/ X-fingerprint: 0B31 CF2B C838 C7F5 20FC 06E3 7DE5 9217 89D2 DBCC X-Disclaimer: http://www.eng.unsw.edu.au/emaildis.htm Reply-To: chak@cse.unsw.edu.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010731184015E.chak@cse.unsw.edu.au> X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 45 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ I tried to use orinoco_cs with the D-Link DWL-650 card; unfortunately without success. So, now I am interested to get to know the current state of the driver wrt to that card. I tried version 0.03 of the driver as distributed with Linux 2.4.3 in both managed (with AP) and ad-hoc mode. Both failed. In managed mode, I got the two following errors in the system log file: Error -110 writing packet data to BAP Error -16 writing packet header to BAP I should probably mention that the AP is a Lucent/Orinoco station and also, when I tested ad-hoc mode, the other card was a Lucent/Orinoco. (I only have access to one D-Link card, so can't test any other set up.) I know that 0.03 is not the latest version of the driver, but couldn't find any log message concerning the D-Link card in newer versions; so, I guess nothing has changed since then. What is the current perception as to how well the DWL-650 is supported by orinoco_cs? Has anybody got it to run? If not, are there any suggestions as to where to start looking to fix the oustanding problems? (I need to get this to run in ad-hoc mode for a small wireless network at home without an AP.) Cheers, Manuel PS: What might be interesting to others is that the PCI-PCMCIA bridge that accompanies the DWL-650 PCMCIA card in the DWL-500 wireless for PCI works out-of-the-box with Linux 2.4.3. (I saw an earlier posting on this list, by Anthony Wesley, who reported problems; this must be due to specifics of that set up. In general, it definitely works.) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Manuel M. T. Chakravarty chak@cse.unsw.edu.au School of Computer Science & Engineering University of New South Wales, Sydney http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~chak/ From m.dent@lancaster.ac.uk Tue Jul 31 03:07:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from zooty.lancs.ac.uk (zooty.lancs.ac.uk [148.88.16.231]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C36D24473 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 03:07:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exchange-ims.lancs.ac.uk ([148.88.17.22]) by zooty.lancs.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15RWVt-00010Q-00; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:12:33 +0100 Received: by exchange-ims.lancs.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:12:32 +0100 Message-ID: <45EA1063C2F8D211915800204808343B01F0DE4B@exchange1.lancs.ac.uk> From: "Dent, Mike" To: "'awesley@acquerra.com.au'" , wireless@samba.org Subject: RE: Orinoco silver, ISA pcmcia adaptor and Redhat 7.1, problems. Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:12:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Anthony Wesley [mailto:awesley@acquerra.com.au] > Sent: 30 July 2001 01:02 > To: Dent, Mike; wireless@samba.org > Subject: Re: Orinoco silver, ISA pcmcia adaptor and Redhat 7.1, > problems. > > > Mike, I had these cards working fine in a 2.2.18 kernel, went > to a 2.4.7 > kernel and they were not recognised! > > The reason is simple, but annoying - the kernel-based drivers > don't scan > port 0x3e2 when trying to detect the card, so they will not > see the ISA > adapter if you have left it o its default settings (like most of us do > I suspect). > > The answer is to change some lines in /etc/sysconfig/pcmcia to this: > > PCIC=i82365 > PCIC_OPTS=i365_base=0x3e2 Anthony, thanks for your reply, this did the trick! I had previously tried the jumper in the other position too, 0x3e0, which somebody said should work. But taking the jumper off and commenting /etc/sysconfig/pcmcia as above worked! What advantages/fixes are there in the new 2.4.7 orinoco stuff? thanks Mike > > try it and let me know. CONFIG_ISA must also be declared when the > drivers > were compiled. > > There have been MANY changes to the way wavelan/ > orinoco cards are handled by the 2.4 series kernels. The kernel-based > drivers > have changed quite a bit in each release. > > I think that the kernel you have now will work, but you should think > about upgrading to the 2.4.7 kernel + the latest orinoco patches from > David Gibson. > > At this point in time, the only place to get a 2.4.7 kernel with > Davids latest patches included is > > http://www.acquerra.com.au/personal/bird/orinoco > > This is not a public repository, and may go away when David > has released > his latest stuff, maybe in 2.4.8 ?? > > (David - do you read this list?) > > cheers, Anthony > From ghutch@bigpond.net.au Tue Jul 31 04:20:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailin9.bigpond.com (juicer34.bigpond.com [139.134.6.86]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2693E4247 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 04:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from greghutd ([139.134.4.56]) by mailin9.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GHC5C400.65F for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 21:31:16 +1000 Received: from 144.137.80.34 ([144.137.80.34]) by mail3.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9g 5/15787582); 31 Jul 2001 21:25:47 Message-ID: <015701c119b3$7b56a1c0$0200a8c0@vic.bigpond.net.au> Reply-To: "Greg Hutchison" From: "Greg Hutchison" To: Subject: Re: Re: Hi Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 21:25:14 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Guys ACTEWAGL in ACT have been using 802.11 (old style) to send 1-3Mb/s to houses and vehicles up to about 10Km. This however requires a propoer antennae and an amplifier putting out the max 4 Watts on part of the ISM 2.4Ghz band. They are using Breezecom equipment. This original standard only went to 2Mb/s but Breezecom extended it to 3Mb/s. However 1Mb/s (half duplex) is still better than nothing or dial up ISDN. Greg Hutchison Message: 6 Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:30:37 +0100 (BST) From: Jon Knight To: benoit.tanguay@volunteernetwork.ca Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Hi On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Benoit Tanguay wrote: > Did the system of the wireless network can cover a large distance like > 50 km of distance? Because some people here are very far of the > others.. Can the speed be more then 2 mpbs.. like 10mpbs... or 100mbps? You can get wireless gear that will go long distances with high bandwidths but its not the consumer grade 802.11b stuff that folks on this list play with. For example we've got a microwave link to a site about 30 miles from us that delivers 155Mbps ATM (which is a bit of a pity as we've otherwise managed to rid ourselves of the curse of ATM) but it costs a fortune to both install and maintain and even it needs repeater stations along the path (which is partly why it is so expensive). Not the sort of thing for hobbyists (or even small companies) to play with. So in my experience with the 802.11b stuff that is currently cheaply available the most you'll get from a long range link is an effective throughput of upto 5Mbps (usually less) and a range upto 2 or 3 miles ,depending on the antennas you have and whether you have a clear _microwave_ (not necessarily optical) Line of Sight (LoS). Tatty bye, Jim'll From Jim@mcdee.net Tue Jul 31 07:46:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from gate.mcdee.net (pc-62-31-132-9-mo.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.132.9]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79DF74DEE for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 07:46:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gate (gate.mcdee.net [192.168.0.1]) by gate.mcdee.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A8AD1E40B; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:50:51 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:50:51 +0100 From: Jim McDonald To: awesley@acquerra.com.au, wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Orinoco silver, ISA pcmcia adaptor and RedHat 7.1, problems Message-Id: <20010731155051.5e8edd71.Jim@mcdee.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.5.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i586-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hi, I'm also having problems with the ISA-PCMCIA bridge and the WaveLAN silver cards. I can see the bridge, and everything *seems* to be working okay, but whenever I try to send data through the port it gives me a'Tx timeout' in messages. I've tried a number of different IRQs, all to no avail. Any ideas if there is something else that might be causing this, or are my IRQs just overloaded? I've currently disabled the second serial port on my motherboard and am using that interrupt, but it still doesn't help. Base system info: Redhat 7.1 with vanilla 2.4.7 kernel, ABIT KT7A motherboard. Using the kernel pcmcia. Here are some outputs: [root@gate /root]# cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 0: 699657 XT-PIC timer 1: 21555 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 4: 0 XT-PIC orinoco_cs 5: 29046 XT-PIC usb-uhci, usb-uhci, eth0 8: 1 XT-PIC rtc 10: 24993 XT-PIC eth1 11: 50298 XT-PIC ide2, ide3 12: 222590 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse 14: 174 XT-PIC ide0 15: 14 XT-PIC ide1 NMI: 0 ERR: 0 [root@gate /root]# ifconfig eth2 eth2 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:02:2D:00:83:6B inet addr:192.168.1.1 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 [root@gate /root]# iwconfig eth2 eth2 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"Test" Nickname:"gate" Mode:Ad-Hoc Frequency:2.422GHz Cell: 02:02:2D:00:83:6B Bit Rate:2Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity:1/3 Retry limit:4 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Encryption key:6032-6E36-84 Power Management:off Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 [root@gate /root]# cat /etc/sysconfig/pcmcia PCMCIA=yes PCIC=i82365 PCIC_OPTS="i365_base=0x3e2" CORE_OPTS= CARDMGR_OPTS= [Output of /var/log/messages] Jul 31 15:41:06 gate kernel: Linux Kernel Card Services 3.1.22 Jul 31 15:41:06 gate kernel: options: [pci] [cardbus] [pm] Jul 31 15:41:06 gate kernel: Intel PCIC probe: Jul 31 15:41:06 gate kernel: Vadem VG-469 ISA-to-PCMCIA at port 0x3e2 ofs 0x00, 2 sockets Jul 31 15:41:06 gate kernel: host opts [0]: none Jul 31 15:41:06 gate kernel: host opts [1]: none Jul 31 15:41:06 gate kernel: ISA irqs (default) = 3,4,7,9 polling interval = 1000 ms Jul 31 15:41:07 gate cardmgr[27951]: starting, version is 3.1.22 Jul 31 15:41:07 gate cardmgr[27951]: watching 2 sockets Jul 31 15:41:07 gate kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean. Jul 31 15:41:07 gate kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x378-0x37f 0x4d0-0x4d7 Jul 31 15:41:07 gate kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean. Jul 31 15:41:07 gate cardmgr[27951]: initializing socket 0 Jul 31 15:41:07 gate kernel: cs: memory probe 0x0d0000-0x0dffff: clean. Jul 31 15:41:07 gate cardmgr[27951]: socket 0: Intersil PRISM2 11 Mbps Wireless Adapter Jul 31 15:41:07 gate cardmgr[27951]: executing: 'modprobe hermes' Jul 31 15:41:07 gate kernel: hermes.c: 12 Dec 2000 David Gibson Jul 31 15:41:07 gate cardmgr[27951]: executing: 'modprobe orinoco' Jul 31 15:41:07 gate kernel: orinoco.c 0.06c (David Gibson and others) Jul 31 15:41:07 gate cardmgr[27951]: executing: 'modprobe orinoco_cs' Jul 31 15:41:07 gate kernel: dldwd: David's Less Dodgy WaveLAN/IEEE Driver Jul 31 15:41:07 gate kernel: orinoco_cs.c 0.06 (David Gibson and others) Jul 31 15:41:07 gate kernel: eth2: Firmware ID 1F vendor 0x1 (Lucent) version 7.28 Jul 31 15:41:07 gate kernel: eth2: Ad-hoc demo mode supported. Jul 31 15:41:07 gate kernel: eth2: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported. Jul 31 15:41:07 gate kernel: eth2: WEP supported, "128"-bit key. Jul 31 15:41:07 gate kernel: eth2: MAC address 00:02:2D:00:83:6B Jul 31 15:41:07 gate kernel: eth2: Station name "HERMES I" Jul 31 15:41:07 gate kernel: eth2: ready Jul 31 15:41:07 gate cardmgr[27951]: executing: './network start eth2' Jul 31 15:41:07 gate kernel: eth2: index 0x01: Vcc 5.0, irq 4, io 0x0100-0x013f Jul 31 15:41:08 gate kernel: NET4: Linux IPX 0.47 for NET4.0 Jul 31 15:41:08 gate kernel: IPX Portions Copyright (c) 1995 Caldera, Inc. Jul 31 15:41:08 gate kernel: IPX Portions Copyright (c) 2000, 2001 Conectiva, Inc. Jul 31 15:41:08 gate kernel: NET4: AppleTalk 0.18a for Linux NET4.0 Jul 31 15:41:08 gate /etc/hotplug/net.agent: register event not handled Jul 31 15:43:20 gate kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth2: transmit timed out Jul 31 15:43:20 gate kernel: eth2: Tx timeout! Resetting card. Jul 31 15:43:28 gate kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth2: transmit timed out Jul 31 15:43:28 gate kernel: eth2: Tx timeout! Resetting card. "Dent, Mike" wrote: > Mike, I had these cards working fine in a 2.2.18 kernel, went to a 2.4.7 kernel and they were not recognised! > > The reason is simple, but annoying - the kernel-based drivers don't scan port 0x3e2 when trying to detect the card, so they will not see the ISA adapter if you have left it o its default settings (like most of us do I suspect). > > The answer is to change some lines in /etc/sysconfig/pcmcia to this: > > PCIC=i82365 > PCIC_OPTS=i365_base=0x3e2 > > try it and let me know. CONFIG_ISA must also be declared when the drivers were compiled. > > There have been MANY changes to the way wavelan/orinoco cards are handled by the 2.4 series kernels. The kernel-based drivers have changed quite a bit in each release. > > I think that the kernel you have now will work, but you should think about upgrading to the 2.4.7 kernel + the latest orinoco patches from David Gibson. > > At this point in time, the only place to get a 2.4.7 kernel with Davids latest patches included is > > http://www.acquerra.com.au/personal/bird/orinoco > > This is not a public repository, and may go away when David has released his latest stuff, maybe in 2.4.8 ?? > > (David - do you read this list?) > > cheers, Anthony -- Jim McDonald - Jim@mcdee.net From m.dent@lancaster.ac.uk Tue Jul 31 09:32:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from zooty.lancs.ac.uk (zooty.lancs.ac.uk [148.88.16.231]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F70B457B for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 09:32:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exchange-ims.lancs.ac.uk ([148.88.17.22]) by zooty.lancs.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15RcVv-0006Ws-00 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:36:59 +0100 Received: by exchange-ims.lancs.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:37:01 +0100 Message-ID: <45EA1063C2F8D211915800204808343B01F0DE4F@exchange1.lancs.ac.uk> From: "Dent, Mike" To: "'wireless@lists.samba.org'" Subject: Orinoco card moving frequency? Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:36:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hi folks..... I'm still battling & getting to grips with a pair of these Orinoco silver cards. I have one installed in a Redhat 7.1 linux PC, it seems to be using wvlan_cs module. (sorry I cant easily post any output from the linux box from here) it is installed in a ISA bridge card. The other is in a Windows 98 laptop, for the moment I want to use the Orinoco client manager software to look at signal levels etc. Now this seemed to be working fine in the workshop yesterday. I moved the linux box in to a better location today and things dont seem to be working? I went to look at the linux box and iwconfig showed it had somehow moved frequency? It seemed to be on channel 10, 2.457Ghz. So I did a 'iwconfig eth1 channel 7' but it did not seem to move it, tried again, this time it went. So I used iwconfig a few times and it seemed to be moving channels? Also iwconfig seems to show the speed as 2mb/s and does not report signal levels? Basically I want to lock it to channel 7, ad-hoc mode and have it stay there for now. We have other 2.4Ghz stuff on the tower and channel 7 is the only free one. I'd like to experiment with different speeds too if possible? Another question, is it possible to somehow lock the Orinoco client manager software to look on a specific channel? I'm assuming when you hit the "explore" button it moves through all the channels looking for compatible devices? Thanks for any pointers/help. Mike > -- > Mike Dent, > Chief Technician, > ISS, > Computer Centre, > Lancaster University, Lancaster, LA1 4YW. > > > From paul@busnet.se Tue Jul 31 13:09:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from junior.busnet.se (busnet.se [213.141.78.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4CBA4422 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 13:09:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from worker ([213.141.80.11]) by junior.busnet.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA02386 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:14:30 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Paul_Wis=E9n?= To: Subject: Multiple cards howto ? Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:18:35 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <009701c11951$1a54e060$ab6184cb@satellite.bigpond.com> Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hi, Is there some quick howto about how to set up multiple wireless cards in one machine ? We have no luck here... One card runs just fine, and there seems not to be any problems with the pcmcia adapters. The problem we have is to configure the wireless extensions, Managed mode and so on. The wireless.opts file is the one to use but we can't figure out what to enter in that file to get it to use different options for the different cards. We tried to compile the orinoco module ( orinoco-0.06d ) but it complains about some missing orinoco.h file.. ?? Did somebody forgot that in the distribution ? (Gibson?) ;) So, what module should we be running to do this? Orinoco or wvlan ?, and does somebody have an example of the wireless.opts file for us to use ? Maybe even the network.opts file ? Beacause of that we can't compile orinoco ourselfs I guess we should use the one that comes with the kernel. We can't figure out what to turn on in the kernel to get the orinoco module though, does anybody got a hint ? Running Redhat 7.1 with 2.4.7 kernel and two cpu's. No PCMCIA in the kernel what so ever, exept config_net_radio.. pcmcia-cs 28 ( because of the smp bug ) Ordinary Redhat wireless-tools 20-4 Orinoco PC Cards silver with 7.52 firmware Regards Paul & Ulf From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Tue Jul 31 18:56:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC17419F for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 18:56:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id TAA09812; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:01:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id TAA16734; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15RlJy-0002cq-00; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:01:14 -0700 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:01:14 -0700 To: David Mosberger-Tang Cc: linux-wlan@absoval.com, davidm@mostang.com, jsevy@mcs.drexel.edu, wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Addtron AWS-110 Wireless Access Point configuration Message-ID: <20010731190114.S280@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com References: <200107240857.f6O8v0224217@panda.mostang.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200107240857.f6O8v0224217@panda.mostang.com>; from David.Mosberger@acm.org on Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 01:57:00AM -0700 Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 01:57:00AM -0700, David Mosberger-Tang wrote: > Not sure this is a suitable place to mail this to, but I thought some > of the list members might find it useful: I recently bought a wireless > solution from Addtron, partially because Linux compatibility was > advertised for the AWP-110. That turned out to be the case, but > unfortunately, the Access Point (AWS-110) requires Windows if you want > to modify the default configuration. Since I didn't have the right > combination of Windows and USB hardware, I instead reverse-engineered > how the SNMP configuration works. I probably didn't get everything > right as my knowledge of wireless LANs and SNMP is very limited, but > the result can be found at: > > http://www.mostang.com/~davidm/aws110.html > > Perhaps it's useful for others. Surely. I'm forwarding it to Jon Sevy who did the Java Airport/RG1000 configurator, he should be interested (or at least link to your page). http://gicl.mcs.drexel.edu/people/sevy//airport/ > One oddity: I'm not sure 100% WEP really works in my configuration. > On the laptop, I have "dot11PrivacyInvoked" turned on and "AuthType" > is set to "sharedkey". However, unless I turn off > "dot11ExcludeUnencrypted", the laptop can't receive any traffice from > the AWS-110, though the other direction works fine. It sounds as if > the traffic from the AWS-110 to the laptop is not encrypted. It could > well be that the traffic isn't encrypted in both direction, but I'm > not sure how to tell. What I do know is that the key values do > matter: if I set them wrong, then communication doesn't work at all, > so clearly *something* is working. Anyone have any insight into this? It's may be because you are using a Lucent card. I've got problem between my D-Link card and a Lucent AP, and I don't want to blame the PrismII MAC too fast. If you want, you can grab my D-Link card in my cube. > Thanks, > > --david Thanks, and have fun... Jean From teddy@angin.com Wed Aug 1 10:51:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from rhino.angin.com (unknown [202.77.117.98]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8629D4723 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 10:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21044 invoked by uid 1058); 1 Aug 2001 17:56:34 -0000 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 00:56:34 +0700 From: Teddy To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: alow ibss can not be aplied Message-ID: <20010802005634.A20985@rhino.angin.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i Organization: Angin.COM Job: Network Operation Staff Messages: Go Linux !!! X-Mailer: Teddy Mail (version 0.1_rev3) Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ I`m using orinoco silver card now ... use LRP based on 2.2.16 linux kernel ... I configured and modified LRP successfully ... but why I can`t use allow_ibss parameter ?? it should be worked on it ... why ?? -- Teddy From usc_mike@hotmail.com Wed Aug 1 12:57:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from hotmail.com (f167.pav2.hotmail.com [64.4.37.167]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B4F54155 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:57:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:01:52 -0700 Received: from 192.31.106.34 by pv2fd.pav2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 01 Aug 2001 20:01:51 GMT X-Originating-IP: [192.31.106.34] From: "Mike L" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: orinoco_cs with 3com airconnect AP Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 20:01:51 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2001 20:01:52.0165 (UTC) FILETIME=[CE63E550:01C11AC4] Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Im trying to get my orinoco gold card to comunicate with the 3com airconnect AP. Has anyone actually got this to work? Is there compatability problems with orinoco_cs and this AP? I'm running linux 2.4.5.with orinoco_cs compiled as a module. I get all modules to load, and seemingly configure the card. The result of the configurations below, is the flashing light on the card blinks when I try to ping the AP. The AP sees the orinoco as a wireless client as well as the RF transmission(ping), but instead of recognizing it as a normal data packet(which is what happens when i ping the AP with the orinoco card underwindows), the packet registers under the BC/MC catagory. Below are my configurations. I am new at this so any and all advice is welcome and appreciated. Thanks Mike 3com Airconnect AP configs IP: 192.168.1.201 Netmask:255.255.255.0 network: 101 Orinoco conifigs. eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"101" Nickname:"HERMES I" Mode:Managed Frequency:2.462GHz Access Point: 00:50:DA:00:9B:49 Bit Rate:2Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity:1/3 Retry limit:4 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Encryption key:off Power Management:off Link Quality:61/92 Signal level:-28 dBm Noise level:-88 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 ******************************************************************** eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:02:2D:09:32:44 inet addr:192.168.1.205 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 Interrupt:55 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 I also have added the default gateway to be the ip of the access point _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From asw@th.com.br Wed Aug 1 14:47:22 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from server10.th.com.br (server10.th.com.br [200.247.244.13]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83FAA4677 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:47:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from th.com.br (server11.th.com.br [200.247.244.31]) by server10.th.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA24666 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 21:51:53 GMT Message-ID: <3B685EA5.744DC10C@th.com.br> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 18:55:17 -0100 From: Andrey Schmiegelow Organization: Tecnohelp Tecnologia =?iso-8859-1?Q?Eletr=F4nica?= Ltda. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: error writing packet (Error -5 writing packet data to BAP) References: <20010801190202.8ED594CF9@lists.samba.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ I'm having exactly the same problem. I'm using orinoco_cs on kernel 2.4.7 with the last orinoco patches applied, but this problem happened with original kernel 2.4.6 and 2.4.7. It seems to happen when a large amount of data is transmitted (I'm not sure). My card is a Orinoco silver IEEE 802.11 / 11Mbits / firmware 7.52 ( I also tested with firmware 7.48) Does anyone knows what means this error message? Thanks, Andrey From david@gibson.dropbear.id.au Wed Aug 1 20:19:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from localhost (CPE-61-9-150-140.vic.bigpond.net.au [61.9.150.140]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA50B45CA for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 20:19:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dgibson by localhost with local (Exim 3.31 #1 (Debian)) id 15S93D-0000L1-00 for ; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 13:21:31 +1000 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:21:31 +1000 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: orinoco_cs with 3com airconnect AP Message-ID: <20010802132131.C1278@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 08:01:51PM +0000, Mike L wrote: > Im trying to get my orinoco gold card to comunicate with the 3com airconnect > AP. > > Has anyone actually got this to work? > > Is there compatability problems with orinoco_cs and this AP? Sounds like this is yet another AP for which we have encapsulation problems. Try changing the encaps_hdr variable in orinoco.c by changing 0xf8 to 0x00, recompile the driver and see if it works. Getting a better fix for this integrated is right at the top of by TODO list... > I'm running linux 2.4.5.with orinoco_cs compiled as a module. I get all > modules to load, and seemingly configure the card. The result of the > configurations below, is the flashing light on the card blinks when I try to > ping the AP. The AP sees the orinoco as a wireless client as well as the RF > transmission(ping), but instead of recognizing it as a normal data > packet(which is what happens when i ping the AP with the orinoco card > underwindows), the packet registers under the BC/MC catagory. Below are my > configurations. I am new at this so any and all advice is welcome and > appreciated. > > Thanks > Mike -- David Gibson | Microsoft: Making the easy things hard david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | and the hard things buggy http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From vestman@lut.fi Thu Aug 2 03:04:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from kuha.cc.lut.fi (kuha.cc.lut.fi [157.24.10.252]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B496E47D0 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 03:04:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (vestman@localhost) by kuha.cc.lut.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07272; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:08:49 +0300 X-Authentication-Warning: kuha.cc.lut.fi: vestman owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:08:49 +0300 (EEST) From: Jussi Vestman X-X-Sender: To: David Gibson Cc: , Subject: Re: How to get IEEE 802.11 management frames in orinoco_cs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Jussi Vestman wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, David Gibson wrote: > > > > Then I began wonder what for HERMES_RXSTAT_WMP definition > > > existed. I added check for it to __dldwd_ev_rx() -function. > > > It receives management frames with frame_ctl 0x0208 from > > > all access points few times a minute. This rate is not high > > > enough for my needs, so I am currently trying to send probe > > > requests. I have written ioctl call to that purpose and it > > > appears to write packet successfully to bap and also send > > > it. But __dldwd_ev_txexc() -function prints an error > > > message. > > > > That's even more interesting. I would be very interested to get a > > copy of the code you're using for this, even if it is incomplete and > > experimental. > > I made my conclusions too early. Every received frame does > seem to have HERMES_RXSTAT_WMP -bit set. I noticed these > "management" packets received via __dldwd_ev_rx were > actually ARP requests.. > > So, only real management frames I have reveiced were > genarated by violently removing and inserting access points' > interface cards. I am wondering if card does not pass all > management frames to driver layer. Well. I set card to promiscuous mode with ifconfig. Guess what? __dldwd_ev_info() is now called about every tenth second in promiscuous mode. This seems to happen even if there exists no network. Only problem is that I don't manage to read packet with hermes_bap_pread without errors, so the header I get, is probably bogus. hermes_bap_pread() returns value -5, which meaning is "Success" according to perror()! --- Mr. Jussi Vestman An IT student at Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland jussi.vestman@lut.fi http://www.lut.fi/~vestman/ From vestman@lut.fi Thu Aug 2 03:19:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from kuha.cc.lut.fi (kuha.cc.lut.fi [157.24.10.252]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053174AE0 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 03:19:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (vestman@localhost) by kuha.cc.lut.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07310 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:23:58 +0300 X-Authentication-Warning: kuha.cc.lut.fi: vestman owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:23:58 +0300 (EEST) From: Jussi Vestman X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: How to get IEEE 802.11 management frames in orinoco_cs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Jussi Vestman wrote: > Well. I set card to promiscuous mode with ifconfig. Guess > what? __dldwd_ev_info() is now called about every tenth > second in promiscuous mode. This seems to happen even if > there exists no network. Only problem is that I don't manage > to read packet with hermes_bap_pread without errors, so the > header I get, is probably bogus. hermes_bap_pread() returns > value -5, which meaning is "Success" according to perror()! And -5 means I/O error according to asm/errno.h.. --- Mr. Jussi Vestman An IT student at Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland jussi.vestman@lut.fi http://www.lut.fi/~vestman/ From fsu.wireless@mail.simplynet.net Thu Aug 2 13:59:28 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.simplynet.net (mail.simplynet.net [12.147.230.6]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336BB4EE2 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:59:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:04:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200108021604.AA13697412@mail.simplynet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Brett Benefield" Reply-To: To: Subject: Manually initiate cards X-Mailer: Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Is there a way or command to manually bring up each orinoco wireless card assigning the frequency and ssid for each one as you bring it up? Brett From bhards@bigpond.net.au Thu Aug 2 14:41:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from mailin2.email.bigpond.com (juicer14.bigpond.com [139.134.6.23]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A8E45E4 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bigpond.net.au ([144.135.24.75]) by mailin2.email.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GHGNEP00.G1U for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 07:52:01 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-178-48.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.178.48]) by bwmam03.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9g 8323/15646394); 03 Aug 2001 07:52:01 Message-ID: <3B69CA1F.74831D45@bigpond.net.au> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 07:46:07 +1000 From: Brad Hards Reply-To: bhards@bigpond.net.au X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.6-ac2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@samba.org Subject: DWL-650 and apple airport - WEP compatible? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ G'day team, I'm having hassles with using my DWL-650 (using orinoco_cs 0.06 from 2.4.6-ac2) and an apple airport (with the java Airport Configurator). It is great with an open link. I just have problems when I try to turn on WEP. Both the airport and the card seem to accept the keys, and the link works with just the airport with keys (with ExcludeUnecrypted turned off, of course). However as soon as I put keys on the card, I can no longer communicate - it just times out (pings don't return, etc). This happens with open or restricted on the card. I have to put some more work into this, but can anyone confirm whether this is doable, and if I need new firmware in the card, a pointer (to TFM, if appropriate) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Brad From usc_mike@hotmail.com Thu Aug 2 16:34:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from hotmail.com (f195.pav2.hotmail.com [64.4.37.195]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A0D4220 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:38:56 -0700 Received: from 192.31.106.35 by pv2fd.pav2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 23:38:56 GMT X-Originating-IP: [192.31.106.35] From: "Mike L" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: orinoco firmware? Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 23:38:56 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2001 23:38:56.0238 (UTC) FILETIME=[4BC178E0:01C11BAC] Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ I have seen numerous sources online suggest the orinoco firmware after version 6.04 do not support promiscuous mode. Can anyone confirm or deny this? Also if the newer firmwares do not support promiscuous mode. Has anyone created a repository of older firmware versions? Thank you all for your help. Mike _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From david@gibson.dropbear.id.au Thu Aug 2 18:52:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from localhost (unknown [144.137.81.200]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74CD4351 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dgibson by localhost with local (Exim 3.31 #1 (Debian)) id 15SUAA-0001y3-00 for ; Fri, 03 Aug 2001 11:54:06 +1000 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:54:06 +1000 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: error writing packet Message-ID: <20010803115406.J1278@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010727234216.A19381@rhino.angin.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 11:42:16PM +0700, Teddy wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 05:27:32PM +1000, Anthony Wesley wrote: > > Teddy wrote: > > > > > > I have some error message that I do not know, > > > anyone can help me ?? > > > > > > Jul 27 14:03:35 Cheetah kernel: eth2: Ad-hoc demo mode supported. > > > Jul 27 14:03:35 Cheetah kernel: eth2: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported. > > > Jul 27 14:03:35 Cheetah kernel: eth2: WEP supported, "128"-bit key. > > > Jul 27 14:03:35 Cheetah kernel: eth2: MAC address 00:02:2D:0B:C0:00 > > > Jul 27 14:03:35 Cheetah kernel: eth2: Station name "HERMES I" > > > Jul 27 14:03:35 Cheetah kernel: eth2: ready > > > Jul 27 14:03:35 Cheetah kernel: eth2: index 0x01: Vcc 5.0, irq 5, io 0x0200-0x023f > > > Jul 27 14:03:37 Cheetah kernel: eth2: Error -5 writing packet data to BAP > > > Jul 27 14:04:17 Cheetah last message repeated 16 times > > > Jul 27 14:05:16 Cheetah last message repeated 8 times > > > what card are you using? > > i`m using orinoco 11Mbit/s Silver card .... > 2 PC Card in one box ... with ad-hoc demo mode .... This error occurs on a number of cards. It is an error reported by the firmware when accessing the card's memory. Unfortunately we haven't been able to figure out exactly what causes it to occur. Despite the error messages are you able to receive and transmit data? Could you please also give me the full model information on the card, including the output from 'cardctl ident' and all the startup messages from the driver (particularly the "Firware ID" message). -- David Gibson | Microsoft: Making the easy things hard david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | and the hard things buggy http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From david@gibson.dropbear.id.au Thu Aug 2 19:18:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from localhost (unknown [144.137.81.200]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2211C47AA for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dgibson by localhost with local (Exim 3.31 #1 (Debian)) id 15SUZT-00029l-00 for ; Fri, 03 Aug 2001 12:20:15 +1000 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:20:15 +1000 From: David Gibson To: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: DWL-650 and apple airport - WEP compatible? Message-ID: <20010803122015.L1278@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@samba.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3B69CA1F.74831D45@bigpond.net.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 07:46:07AM +1000, Brad Hards wrote: > G'day team, > > I'm having hassles with using my DWL-650 (using orinoco_cs 0.06 from > 2.4.6-ac2) and an apple airport (with the java Airport Configurator). > > It is great with an open link. I just have problems when I try to turn on WEP. > Both the airport and the card seem to accept the keys, and the link works with > just the airport with keys (with ExcludeUnecrypted turned off, of course). > However as soon as I put keys on the card, I can no longer communicate - it > just times out (pings don't return, etc). This happens with open or restricted > on the card. > > I have to put some more work into this, but can anyone confirm whether this is > doable, and if I need new firmware in the card, a pointer (to TFM, if > appropriate) would be greatly appreciated. As far as I know we haven't been able to get WEP working at all on the Prism II cards (such as the D-Link) :-( -- David Gibson | Microsoft: Making the easy things hard david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | and the hard things buggy http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From david@gibson.dropbear.id.au Thu Aug 2 19:29:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from localhost (unknown [144.137.81.200]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 010C24210 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:29:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dgibson by localhost with local (Exim 3.31 #1 (Debian)) id 15SUkM-0002Fv-00 for ; Fri, 03 Aug 2001 12:31:30 +1000 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:31:30 +1000 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: orinoco firmware? Message-ID: <20010803123130.M1278@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 11:38:56PM +0000, Mike L wrote: > I have seen numerous sources online suggest the orinoco firmware after > version 6.04 do not support promiscuous mode. > > Can anyone confirm or deny this? As far as I know, this is not the case. However firmware versions 6.04 and 6.06 themselves had a serious bug in promiscuous mode - they received packets promiscuously but silently failed to transmit until the card was reset. Unfortunately I only have one host on the wireless network here at the moment (plus the AP) so I can't test to see if promiscuous mode works. > Also if the newer firmwares do not support promiscuous mode. Has anyone > created a repository of older firmware versions? > > Thank you all for your help. > Mike -- David Gibson | Microsoft: Making the easy things hard david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | and the hard things buggy http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From david@gibson.dropbear.id.au Thu Aug 2 19:51:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from localhost (unknown [144.137.81.200]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B49884475 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dgibson by localhost with local (Exim 3.31 #1 (Debian)) id 15SV5G-0002PX-00 for ; Fri, 03 Aug 2001 12:53:06 +1000 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:53:06 +1000 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: error writing packet (Error -5 writing packet data to BAP) Message-ID: <20010803125306.N1278@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3B685EA5.744DC10C@th.com.br> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 06:55:17PM -0100, Andrey Schmiegelow wrote: > > I'm having exactly the same problem. > I'm using orinoco_cs on kernel 2.4.7 with the last orinoco patches applied, but > this problem happened with original kernel 2.4.6 and 2.4.7. > It seems to happen when a large amount of data is transmitted (I'm not sure). > > My card is a Orinoco silver IEEE 802.11 / 11Mbits / firmware 7.52 ( I also tested > with firmware 7.48) > > Does anyone knows what means this error message? Sadly, no. It is an error reported by the firmware/hardware when accessing the card's memory. I haven't been able to figure out what causes it, other than that it happens more under heavy load. As it is we already retry the failing operation 10 times before printing the message - this reduces the number of such errors to a tolerable level most of the time. Possibly the number of retries should be increased, but I have avoided doing this so far in the hope that I could find out what is really causing them and avoid them in a less haphazard way. -- David Gibson | Microsoft: Making the easy things hard david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | and the hard things buggy http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From matt@bsd1.au.sevenone.com Thu Aug 2 20:28:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from bsd1.au.sevenone.com (bsd1.au.sevenone.com [202.12.71.49]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D71446D4 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 20:28:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from matt@localhost) by bsd1.au.sevenone.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f733MeZ21318 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:52:40 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from matt) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:52:40 +0930 From: matt baker To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Adelaide access? Message-ID: <20010803125239.B21039@bsd1.au.sevenone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Howdy, just wondering if there is anyone in the adelaide area (close to CBD), doing non-commercial wireless links? Matt From steedman@bigpond.net.au Fri Aug 3 00:56:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailin1.bigpond.com (juicer13.bigpond.com [139.134.6.21]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0976D4870 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 00:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from woo ([144.135.24.81]) by mailin1.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GHHFTM00.EHB for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 18:05:46 +1000 Received: from CPE-144-132-139-49.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([144.132.139.49]) by bwmam05.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9g 8335/16363173); 03 Aug 2001 18:05:05 Message-ID: <005f01c11bf2$5a5610f0$0100a8c0@woo> From: "Glen Steedman" To: Subject: Wireless utils ( win ) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:59:40 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Are there any wireless tools/utils for Windows. to show status of a wireless card ( webgear aviator pro in my case ) alongwith any other info ? i know under linux i can get some pretty numbers from /proc/ray_cs and maybe even a chart/graph if i was to use the linux tool from www.air.net.au Cheers, Glen. From David.Dominick@delta.com Fri Aug 3 07:04:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from satlmsghub04.delta-air.com (dragonfire4.delta.com [205.174.22.24]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69194835 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 07:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by satlmsghub04.delta-air.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <3GP3SQCG>; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:09:04 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Dominick, David" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: orinoco firmware? Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:09:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ I have seen those cards do a form of promisc mode, but they wilnot recieve packets from a network they do not attach to. I am not sure if they have fixed this, or if it is a feature. It is the reason that Network General's Sniffer wont work with Orinoco cards. -----Original Message----- From: David Gibson [mailto:david@gibson.dropbear.id.au] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:32 PM To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: orinoco firmware? On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 11:38:56PM +0000, Mike L wrote: > I have seen numerous sources online suggest the orinoco firmware after > version 6.04 do not support promiscuous mode. > > Can anyone confirm or deny this? As far as I know, this is not the case. However firmware versions 6.04 and 6.06 themselves had a serious bug in promiscuous mode - they received packets promiscuously but silently failed to transmit until the card was reset. Unfortunately I only have one host on the wireless network here at the moment (plus the AP) so I can't test to see if promiscuous mode works. > Also if the newer firmwares do not support promiscuous mode. Has anyone > created a repository of older firmware versions? > > Thank you all for your help. > Mike -- David Gibson | Microsoft: Making the easy things hard david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | and the hard things buggy http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From teddy@angin.com Fri Aug 3 10:29:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from rhino.angin.com (unknown [202.77.117.98]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CC1A94482 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:29:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28848 invoked by uid 1058); 3 Aug 2001 17:33:51 -0000 From: teddy@angin.com Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 00:33:51 +0700 To: David Gibson Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: error writing packet Message-ID: <20010804003351.A27345@rhino.angin.com> References: <20010803115406.J1278@zax> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010803115406.J1278@zax> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i Organization: Angin.COM Job: Network Operation Staff Messages: Go Linux !!! X-Mailer: Teddy Mail (version 0.1_rev3) Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 11:54:06AM +1000, David Gibson wrote: > On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 11:42:16PM +0700, Teddy wrote: > > This error occurs on a number of cards. It is an error reported by > the firmware when accessing the card's memory. Unfortunately we > haven't been able to figure out exactly what causes it to occur. > Despite the error messages are you able to receive and transmit data? Yes, of course. It's still working properly. But I find any errors messages reported by kern.log. 'error -5 writting packet date to BAP' 'eth2: Tx timeout! Resetting card.' What are these mean ??? > Could you please also give me the full model information on the card, > including the output from 'cardctl ident' and all the startup messages > from the driver (particularly the "Firware ID" message). This is the full information, that I captured from kern.log. --------------------------------------------------- cheetah:[10]~# tail -80f /var/log/kern.log Aug 1 10:07:13 Cheetah kernel: Linux PCMCIA Card Services 3.1.27 Aug 1 10:07:13 Cheetah kernel: kernel build: 2.4.5 #1 Tue Jul 17 15:29:50 JAVT 2001 Aug 1 10:07:13 Cheetah kernel: options: [pci] [cardbus] Aug 1 10:07:13 Cheetah kernel: cs.c 1.274 2001/03/05 04:01:49 (David Hinds) Aug 1 10:07:13 Cheetah kernel: i82365.c 1.334 2001/04/19 02:27:45 (David Hinds) Aug 1 10:07:13 Cheetah kernel: Intel PCIC probe: Aug 1 10:07:13 Cheetah kernel: Vadem VG-469 rev 00 ISA-to-PCMCIA at port 0x3e0 ofs 0x00 Aug 1 10:07:13 Cheetah kernel: host opts [0]: none Aug 1 10:07:13 Cheetah kernel: host opts [1]: none Aug 1 10:07:13 Cheetah kernel: ISA irqs (scanned) = 3,4,5,7,15 polling interval = 1000 ms Aug 1 10:07:13 Cheetah kernel: Vadem VG-469 rev 00 ISA-to-PCMCIA at port 0x3e2 ofs 0x00 Aug 1 10:07:13 Cheetah kernel: host opts [0]: none Aug 1 10:07:13 Cheetah kernel: host opts [1]: none Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: ISA irqs (scanned) = 3,4,5,7,15 polling interval = 1000 ms Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: cs: register_ss_entry(4, 0xc482861c) Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: ds.c 1.109 2001/01/11 01:31:50 (David Hinds) Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: ds_open(socket 0) Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: ds_open(socket 1) Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: ds_open(socket 2) Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: ds_open(socket 3) Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: ds_open(socket 4) Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: ds_open(socket 4) Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: cs: memory probe 0x0d0000-0x0dffff: clean. Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: hermes.c: 12 Dec 2000 David Gibson Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: orinoco.c 0.07 (David Gibson and others) Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: dldwd: David's Less Dodgy WaveLAN/IEEE Driver Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: orinoco_cs.c 0.06 (David Gibson and others) Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: ds: register_pccard_driver('orinoco_cs') Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x100-0x107 0x170-0x177 0x290-0x297 0x370-0x37f 0x3c0-0x3e7 0x4d0-0x4d7 Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0178-0x028f: clean. Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0298-0x036f: clean. Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0380-0x03bf: clean. Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x03e8-0x04cf: clean. Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x04d8-0x04ff: clean. Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0800-0x08ff: clean. Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean. Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean. Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: eth1: Firmware ID 1F vendor 0x1 (Lucent) version 6.16 Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: eth1: Ad-hoc demo mode supported. Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: eth1: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported. Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: eth1: WEP supported, "128"-bit key. Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: eth1: MAC address 00:02:2D:1D:37:83 Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: eth1: Station name "HERMES I" Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: eth1: ready Aug 1 10:07:14 Cheetah kernel: eth1: index 0x01: Vcc 5.0, irq 3, io 0x0180-0x01bf Aug 1 10:07:16 Cheetah kernel: eth2: Firmware ID 1F vendor 0x1 (Lucent) version 6.06 Aug 1 10:07:16 Cheetah kernel: eth2: Ad-hoc demo mode supported. Aug 1 10:07:16 Cheetah kernel: eth2: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported. Aug 1 10:07:16 Cheetah kernel: eth2: WEP supported, "128"-bit key. Aug 1 10:07:16 Cheetah kernel: eth2: MAC address 00:02:2D:0B:C0:00 Aug 1 10:07:16 Cheetah kernel: eth2: Station name "HERMES I" Aug 1 10:07:16 Cheetah kernel: eth2: ready Aug 1 10:07:16 Cheetah kernel: eth2: index 0x01: Vcc 5.0, irq 5, io 0x0200-0x023f Aug 1 10:21:25 Cheetah kernel: eth2: Error -5 writing packet data to BAP Aug 1 10:21:57 Cheetah last message repeated 5 times Aug 1 10:22:13 Cheetah last message repeated 2 times Aug 1 10:51:26 Cheetah kernel: ip_tables: (c)2000 Netfilter core team Aug 1 10:51:39 Cheetah kernel: ip_conntrack (511 buckets, 4088 max) Aug 1 12:02:03 Cheetah kernel: eth2: Error -5 writing packet data to BAP Aug 1 12:02:03 Cheetah last message repeated 4 times Aug 2 10:07:00 Cheetah kernel: eth2: Error -5 writing packet data to BAP Aug 2 10:07:02 Cheetah last message repeated 14 times Aug 2 14:33:52 Cheetah kernel: eth2: Error -5 writing packet data to BAP Aug 2 22:00:07 Cheetah kernel: eth2: Error -5 writing packet data to BAP Aug 2 22:00:08 Cheetah last message repeated 6 times Aug 3 09:12:21 Cheetah kernel: ds_open(socket 0) Aug 3 09:12:21 Cheetah kernel: ds_open(socket 1) Aug 3 09:12:21 Cheetah kernel: ds_open(socket 2) Aug 3 09:12:21 Cheetah kernel: ds_open(socket 3) Aug 3 09:12:21 Cheetah kernel: ds_open(socket 4) Aug 3 09:12:21 Cheetah kernel: ds_release(socket 0) Aug 3 09:12:21 Cheetah kernel: ds_release(socket 1) Aug 3 09:12:21 Cheetah kernel: ds_release(socket 2) Aug 3 09:12:21 Cheetah kernel: ds_release(socket 3) Aug 3 09:33:45 Cheetah kernel: eth2: Error -5 writing packet data to BAP Aug 3 09:33:49 Cheetah last message repeated 150 times Aug 3 16:02:24 Cheetah kernel: eth2: Error -5 writing packet data to BAP Aug 3 16:02:31 Cheetah last message repeated 257 times Aug 3 18:18:36 Cheetah kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth2: transmit timed out Aug 3 18:18:36 Cheetah kernel: eth2: Tx timeout! Resetting card. ------------------------------------------------------------------- cheetah:[11]~# cardctl ident Socket 0: product info: "Lucent Technologies", "WaveLAN/IEEE", "Version 01.01", "" manfid: 0x0156, 0x0002 function: 6 (network) Socket 1: no product info available Socket 2: product info: "Lucent Technologies", "WaveLAN/IEEE", "Version 01.01", "" manfid: 0x0156, 0x0002 function: 6 (network) Socket 3: no product info available -------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank's Teddy From beedub@internode.on.net Sat Aug 4 03:30:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from ash25.adelaide.on.net (mail.internode.on.net [203.16.214.248]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB256452F for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 03:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tower ([150.101.237.154]) by internode.on.net (PMDF V6.0-24 #37831) with SMTP id <01K6QY7FWQVE00T4R4@internode.on.net> for wireless@lists.samba.org; Sat, 04 Aug 2001 20:02:26 +0930 Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 19:59:21 +0930 From: Bryan Wetton Subject: Access point In-reply-to: To: wireless@lists.samba.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ I run a server connected to an ADSL feed to a 2 PC local net using NE2000 on coax. Would the addition of a Webgear card ( in an ISA holder) allow dual access to the Net? ie from my Notebook with Webgear card. Regards Bryan Wetton Adelaide SA Family History at http://wetton.cjb.net - 'A Southerner from the North' Blue Steel Trials 1958-1965 at http://bluesteel.cjb.net From alan@objcomp.com.au Sat Aug 4 17:14:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from gw.objcomp.com.au (CPE-61-9-189-39.vic.bigpond.net.au [61.9.189.39]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68A4E4A82 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 17:14:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from objcomp.com.au (oc1 [192.168.0.2]) by gw.objcomp.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f750Qgf16478 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 10:26:43 +1000 Message-ID: <3B6C9118.473188A1@objcomp.com.au> Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 10:19:36 +1000 From: Alan Wilkie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Debugging a helical antenna installation References: <20010804190229.B97164A61@lists.samba.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ My father and I have just finished building a pair of helical antennae as per the design on Jason Hecker's web site, but we're having some problems getting a link going. Does anyone have experience debugging these things? We're using Compaq WL200 cards which work fine when they're in the same house with their original aerials plugged in. At the moment we've just soldered an extra piece of coax straight onto the board to connect the external antenna. The cable runs we're using for testing are fairly short (5 or 6 metres) so I don't think cable losses are going to be a problem. There distance is about 500m and there is only one tree that prevents us from getting absolute LOS. I did some calculations on Fresnel zones as well and there is nothing in the way that should affect us. We can get perfect LOS if it becomes necessary, it's just existing mast placement that's made us go this way. Needless to say, the reason I'm writing this is that we've had no success getting the cards to associate, even when they're 10m apart. It's as if there's no signal at all getting into/out of the helicals. We've checked all the obvious things and there are no shorts, the right pins are connected to the right places, etc. What are the critical factors that affect these things? Accuracy of the construction? Connectors? Soldering directly to the board? How do you test them (i.e. who's likely to have a 2.4GHz signal generator and spectrum analyser)? Do they saturate if you have them too close together? TIA, Alan Wilkie From kleptog@svana.org Sat Aug 4 20:15:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [203.37.36.64]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D7F4AD3 for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 20:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15TEVJ-0000Ur-00; Sun, 05 Aug 2001 13:23:01 +1000 Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 13:23:01 +1000 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: Alan Wilkie Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Debugging a helical antenna installation Message-ID: <20010805132301.A1810@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout References: <20010804190229.B97164A61@lists.samba.org> <3B6C9118.473188A1@objcomp.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B6C9118.473188A1@objcomp.com.au>; from alan@objcomp.com.au on Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 10:19:36AM +1000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 10:19:36AM +1000, Alan Wilkie wrote: > external antenna. The cable runs we're using for testing are fairly > short (5 or 6 metres) so I don't think cable losses are going to be a > problem. What kind of cable is it? When we were doing this we made sure there was a maximum of 2m of cable at each end and that was pretty expensive cable. We're dealing with 2.4GHz here and you'd be suprised at the kind of cable losses you can get. > Needless to say, the reason I'm writing this is that we've had no > success getting the cards to associate, even when they're 10m apart. > It's as if there's no signal at all getting into/out of the helicals. > We've checked all the obvious things and there are no shorts, the right > pins are connected to the right places, etc. This is a bad sign. When we just put them down in the same room, not even orienting them, we'd get higher signal levels than with no antenna. > What are the critical factors that affect these things? Accuracy of the > construction? Connectors? Soldering directly to the board? How do you > test them (i.e. who's likely to have a 2.4GHz signal generator and > spectrum analyser)? Do they saturate if you have them too close > together? With those full length ISA cards we had to chop the cable to get the connector off and we had minor difficulties with the joints, but other than that it seemed to work OK. From what I remember it's cable losses and impedance that are your major issues. HTH, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > It would be nice if someone came up with a certification system that > actually separated those who can barely regurgitate what they crammed over > the last few weeks from those who command secret ninja networking powers. From grog@lemis.com Sat Aug 4 20:40:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA3E1423A for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 20:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56A966AD00; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 13:14:25 +0930 (CST) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 13:14:25 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Glen Steedman Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Microsoft-based Aviator tools (was: Wireless utils ( win )) Message-ID: <20010805131425.D63519@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <005f01c11bf2$5a5610f0$0100a8c0@woo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <005f01c11bf2$5a5610f0$0100a8c0@woo>; from steedman@bigpond.net.au on Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 05:59:40PM +1000 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Friday, 3 August 2001 at 17:59:40 +1000, Glen Steedman wrote: > Are there any wireless tools/utils for Windows. > to show status of a wireless card ( webgear aviator pro in my case ) > alongwith any other info ? > i know under linux i can get some pretty numbers from /proc/ray_cs > and maybe even a chart/graph if i was to use the linux tool from > www.air.net.au I have these cards. I haven't been able to get them to work at all under Microsoft. I don't care too much, but I did note what appeared to be a complete absence of tools. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers From bhards@bigpond.net.au Sat Aug 4 22:13:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from mailin10.bigpond.com (juicer35.bigpond.com [139.134.6.87]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BBD7422D for ; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 22:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bigpond.net.au ([144.135.24.75]) by mailin10.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GHKXO100.FZA; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 15:24:01 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-178-48.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.178.48]) by bwmam03.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9g 8323/17918416); 05 Aug 2001 15:24:01 Message-ID: <3B6CD706.6607B254@bigpond.net.au> Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 15:17:58 +1000 From: Brad Hards Reply-To: bhards@bigpond.net.au X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.6-ac2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Gibson Cc: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: DWL-650 and apple airport - WEP compatible? References: <20010803122015.L1278@zax> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ David Gibson wrote: > As far as I know we haven't been able to get WEP working at all on the > Prism II cards (such as the D-Link) :-( That's going to be mighty annoying. Any idea what the problem might (or might not) be? I take it that WEP works with the Prism I cards with the hermes/orinoco driver, so the problem is likely to be something specific to the HFA3841 or HFA3842? Does WEP work with any driver other than the hermes/orinoco driver? Did developers sign the NDA (http://www.intersil.com/design/prism/ss/p2smtrx.asp#-PRISM-Driver Programmer's Manual) to get the programmers manual, or was most of the code reverse engineered? Or is there some other option? Assuming that WEP works with the windows driver, does anyone have a recommendation for a windows PCMCIA debug utility that can dump out commands (analagous to USB Snoopy - http://www.jps.net/~koma/)? Brad From code@steelkey.com.au Sun Aug 5 07:47:08 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from mail.atnet.net.au (mail.atnet.net.au [210.8.78.132]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EF20B4502 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 07:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30763 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2001 14:46:20 -0000 Received: from cpe-61-9-190-177.vic.bigpond.net.au (HELO re.steelkey.com.au) (61.9.190.177) by mail.atnet.net.au with SMTP; 5 Aug 2001 14:46:20 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010806003902.00ad8168@mail.atnet.net.au> X-Sender: code@atnet.net.au@mail.atnet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 00:51:40 +1000 To: wireless@samba.org From: Gwilym Evans Subject: Tracking devices [semi off-topic] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ I realise this list's topic is wireless data networks but I figured I if I'm going to catch the attention of someone who's knowledgable in the area, this would be a good place to try. Does anyone know of any portable tracking devices and services available in Australia? (or available internationally with access in Australia). A good example is the MicroTrax system here: http://www.govcomm.harris.com/programs/microtrax/ but I doubt this is available to the public. What I'm interested in mainly is tracking expensive pieces of hardware. It's mainly out of curiosity though, to see if such a system exists, how it works and the kind of costs involved. Like buy an attachable device and stick it inside, say, the base of a new lcd screen you just invested in and later track it down if/when someone attempts to steal it (ofcourse the more goody-two-shoes of us might call this a lesser form of entrapment ;). TIA, Gwilym. PS. I'm trying Eudora at the moment, apologies if this gets sent in HTML. From alan@objcomp.com.au Sun Aug 5 15:43:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from gw.objcomp.com.au (CPE-61-9-189-39.vic.bigpond.net.au [61.9.189.39]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F680434B for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 15:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from objcomp.com.au (oc1 [192.168.0.2]) by gw.objcomp.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f75Mshf17011; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 08:54:43 +1000 Message-ID: <3B6DCD03.BBD790AE@objcomp.com.au> Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 08:47:31 +1000 From: Alan Wilkie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martijn van Oosterhout Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Debugging a helical antenna installation References: <20010804190229.B97164A61@lists.samba.org> <3B6C9118.473188A1@objcomp.com.au> <20010805132301.A1810@svana.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ > What kind of cable is it? When we were doing this we made sure there was a > maximum of 2m of cable at each end and that was pretty expensive cable. > We're dealing with 2.4GHz here and you'd be suprised at the kind of cable > losses you can get. I'm not sure exactly what grade the cable is, all I know is that it's 50 ohm coax. I expected that there would be a reasonable amount of attenuation in the cabling, but the antennae should be about 14dBi gain and I thought there would be loads of signal to play with over the short distance we're trying to span. > With those full length ISA cards we had to chop the cable to get the > connector off and we had minor difficulties with the joints, but other than > that it seemed to work OK. From what I remember it's cable losses and > impedance that are your major issues. Thanks for that, we'll give it a try with shorter cables and try a different method of connecting the cables to the wireless cards. Alan From mick@faceng.anu.edu.au Sun Aug 5 18:44:09 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from hilbert.anu.edu.au (hilbert.anu.edu.au [150.203.43.6]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9330F4412 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 18:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from faceng.anu.edu.au (nicholson [150.203.43.98]) by hilbert.anu.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23751 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:09:17 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3B6DE0DF.6010709@faceng.anu.edu.au> Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 10:12:15 +1000 From: mick stuckings User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless Subject: [Fwd: Re: Debugging a helical antenna installation] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hi, If it's the cheap 50ohm ethernet, don't even bother trying, that's your problem. I tried this already :) You could easily be getting >50dB loss per 10m (I looked that up). If you order a pre-terminated cable of LMR or similar and cut it in half, it's cheaper than buying the bits. LMR-400 is a good trade off with loss vs flexibility for longer runs (that's what others suggested to me), but it's not so good for connecting straight to the card as it's a bit thick. For anyone interested here's what we did with webgears: http://hilbert.anu.edu.au/~mick/wireless/ If anyone has any corrections to this I'd be happy to fix it :) Mick Alan Wilkie wrote: >> What kind of cable is it? When we were doing this we made sure there was a >> maximum of 2m of cable at each end and that was pretty expensive cable. >> We're dealing with 2.4GHz here and you'd be suprised at the kind of cable >> losses you can get. > > > I'm not sure exactly what grade the cable is, all I know is that it's 50 > ohm coax. I expected that there would be a reasonable amount of > attenuation in the cabling, but the antennae should be about 14dBi gain > and I thought there would be loads of signal to play with over the short > distance we're trying to span. > >> With those full length ISA cards we had to chop the cable to get the >> connector off and we had minor difficulties with the joints, but other than >> that it seemed to work OK. From what I remember it's cable losses and >> impedance that are your major issues. > > > Thanks for that, we'll give it a try with shorter cables and try a > different method of connecting the cables to the wireless cards. > > Alan > > > From utmweihuang@hotmail.com Sun Aug 5 21:02:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from hotmail.com (f144.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.144]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED5FE4154 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 21:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 21:07:10 -0700 Received: from 203.121.53.125 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 06 Aug 2001 04:07:09 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.121.53.125] From: "LEE WEI HUANG" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Help on orinoco gold cards on PCI Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 12:07:09 +0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Aug 2001 04:07:10.0153 (UTC) FILETIME=[43B74390:01C11E2D] Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/

I've just bought three, orinoco gold cards and two PCI adapters. It seems that the Wavelan2_cs driver doesn't work on my 2.2.14 redhat 6.1 kernel. My pc could not detect the adapters.On the laptop it works fine. Any ideas on wherehow to make it work?


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From david@gibson.dropbear.id.au Sun Aug 5 23:37:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from localhost (sydney1.au.ibm.com [202.135.142.193]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21FC8421D for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 23:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dgibson by localhost with local (Exim 3.31 #1 (Debian)) id 15Te2L-0000On-00 for ; Mon, 06 Aug 2001 16:38:49 +1000 Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 16:38:49 +1000 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: How to get IEEE 802.11 management frames in orinoco_cs Message-ID: <20010806163849.D13608@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 01:23:58PM +0300, Jussi Vestman wrote: > On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Jussi Vestman wrote: > > > Well. I set card to promiscuous mode with ifconfig. Guess > > what? __dldwd_ev_info() is now called about every tenth > > second in promiscuous mode. This seems to happen even if Ok, that's certainly progress. > > there exists no network. Only problem is that I don't manage What do you mean by "no network"? > > to read packet with hermes_bap_pread without errors, so the > > header I get, is probably bogus. hermes_bap_pread() returns > > value -5, which meaning is "Success" according to perror()! Err... how did you arrive at that? > And -5 means I/O error according to asm/errno.h.. Yes, EIO is correct. That means we are getting an error reported by the hardware/firmware (not sure which) while attempting to seek the BAP. I'm not entirely sure what this error condition means - we seem to get it randomly when under high load. If you're getting it consistently here that might explain some things about it. Two things to check: first make sure you are using BAP 1 (IRQ_BAP) to read the packet - otherwise the read could conflict with an access from the Tx path or from an ioctl(). Second make sure you are using the frame id from the INFOFID register, not from RXFID. -- David Gibson | Microsoft: Making the easy things hard david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | and the hard things buggy http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Mon Aug 6 11:14:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 588F345B3 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 11:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id LAA23093 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 11:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id LAA01839 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 11:19:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15Toy5-00049B-00 for ; Mon, 06 Aug 2001 11:19:09 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 11:19:09 -0700 To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: WEP is dead ? Message-ID: <20010806111909.B15852@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ WEP is not going too well lately : http://www.eetimes.com/story/OEG20010803S0082 http://www.eyetap.org/~rguerra/toronto2001/rc4_ksaproc.pdf This attack is on the key schedule of RC4, so pretty close to the core of the encryption mechanism. Note that 802.1x still use WEP for the encryption (it just use dynamic key instead of static key), so won't fix this problem. And Radius/LEAP is only an authentication, not encryption. IPsec anyone ? Jean From David.Dominick@delta.com Mon Aug 6 12:24:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from satlmsghub03.delta-air.com (dragonfire1.delta.com [205.174.22.20]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B79D74718; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 12:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by satlmsghub03.delta-air.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 15:39:35 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Dominick, David" To: "'jt@hpl.hp.com'" , Samba/Wavelan mailing list Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: WEP is dead ? Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 15:28:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ /rant on Well the sad thing is that we have been telling them this all along. WEP is not dead, it was never alive. Hardly any security engineers that I know have even considered using WEP because even before the crack came out WEP was far too easy to break. Heck all you had to do if you don't want to crack it is capture the snmp password and turn off the WEP on the AP yourself! Now there are tools for script kiddies to circumvent WEP without disabling it. Yet the pat answer from IEEE and the WEP boyz is, "the Berkeley report was far too complex to be widely implemented, and that WEP should not be used by itself to protect sensitive data." Typical response of people who don't understand computers. Once the crack was discovered and a script was written to perform it, it took about 5 seconds for that script to appear on the newsgroups that these people would be well served to subscribe to. If one of these IEEE people would bother to read Phrack or any of the thousands of newsgroups, maybe we could get a solution that worked. Several of us have been saying for a long time that you should not let your BRIDGE provide your security. /rant off Good luck all. Thank you, David Dominick Enterprise Security Engineering 404-202-2848 -----Original Message----- From: Jean Tourrilhes [mailto:jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 2:19 PM To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: WEP is dead ? WEP is not going too well lately : http://www.eetimes.com/story/OEG20010803S0082 http://www.eyetap.org/~rguerra/toronto2001/rc4_ksaproc.pdf This attack is on the key schedule of RC4, so pretty close to the core of the encryption mechanism. Note that 802.1x still use WEP for the encryption (it just use dynamic key instead of static key), so won't fix this problem. And Radius/LEAP is only an authentication, not encryption. IPsec anyone ? Jean From vk7zbx@mpx.com.au Mon Aug 6 18:38:09 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail001.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail001.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.244]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D6D419F for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 18:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Tricky (hobax1-234.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.190.234]) by mail001.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f771gT615175 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 11:42:29 +1000 Message-ID: <001601c11e19$1f7a29c0$ad00a8c0@Tricky> From: "Richard Howlett" To: Subject: Action in Tasmania ? Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 11:42:58 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C11E6C.F05E55E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C11E6C.F05E55E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy All, Just came accross this page / group. I'm most keen to get into playing with this wireless networking, and = will be trying to catch up with whats going down. I notice a link to Tasmania, but it's not ready as yet. If anyone from Tas preferably from the south could get in contact, would = be good to get together and chat. Thanks Richard vk7zbx@mpx.com.au ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C11E6C.F05E55E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I notice a link to Tasmania, but it's = not ready as=20 yet.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C11E6C.F05E55E0-- From chrisf@fagmed.uit.no Tue Aug 7 01:46:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from lozen.uit.no (lozen.Uit.No [129.242.5.254]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 592DB4445 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 01:46:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iris.fagmed.uit.no (root@iris.fagmed.uit.no [129.242.52.246]) by lozen.uit.no (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f778ors12437 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 10:50:54 +0200 (METDST) Received: from fagmed.uit.no (bt06.imb.fm.uit.no [129.242.52.123]) by iris.fagmed.uit.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA30656 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 10:50:58 +0200 Message-ID: <3B6FAE97.846AD096@fagmed.uit.no> Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 11:02:15 +0200 From: Chris Fenton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Hello Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sorry to bother you guys, but I am very new to the wireless concept. I would like to try a wireless net to overcome a formidable domestic hurdle, my wife will not let me run cable. -a linux isdn-wireless router to connect 4 PCs at home -router is a 486-66 with 24MB ram -router will also run a printer queue and samba -routing software provided by the linux router project Questions: Should I get a 1/2 Mbits card or 11Mbits? Will my 486 be the limiting factor ? Are there and 11Mbit isa cards ? Has anyone tried to stream video or mp3 through a wireless ? I will post benchmarks from this experiment Chris Fenton From Josh.Howlett@bristol.ac.uk Tue Aug 7 02:10:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDDFF4277 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 02:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shark.cse.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 10:15:17 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shark.cse.bris.ac.uk (8.11.4/8.11.3) with SMTP id f779F1504039; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 10:15:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 10:15:01 +0100 (BST) From: Josh Howlett X-Sender: bujfxh@shark.cse.bris.ac.uk To: Chris Fenton Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Hello In-Reply-To: <3B6FAE97.846AD096@fagmed.uit.no> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Chris Fenton wrote: > Sorry to bother you guys, but I am very new to the wireless concept. > > I would like to try a wireless net to overcome a formidable domestic > hurdle, my wife will not let me run cable. > -a linux isdn-wireless router to connect 4 PCs at home > -router is a 486-66 with 24MB ram > -router will also run a printer queue and samba > -routing software provided by the linux router project > > Questions: > Should I get a 1/2 Mbits card or 11Mbits? 11Mb/s (802.11b). > Will my 486 be the limiting factor ? Unlikely. > Are there and 11Mbit isa cards ? Yes. > Has anyone tried to stream video or mp3 through a wireless ? Yes - I've streamed Netmeeting over 11Mb/s, absolutely no problem. > I will post benchmarks from this experiment > > Chris Fenton > > > > > --------------------------------------- Josh Howlett, Network Supervisor, Networking & Digital Communications, Information Systems & Computing, University of Bristol, U.K. 0117 928 7850 | josh.howlett@bris.ac.uk --------------------------------------- From chuq@chuq.net Tue Aug 7 02:24:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from zeus.tassie.net.au (zeus.tassie.net.au [203.57.213.21]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C954445 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 02:24:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from taurus (ppp-gw-chuq.ltn.tassie.net.au [203.57.211.168]) by zeus.tassie.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA01229; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:29:10 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <002c01c11f24$138a50c0$6600000a@chuq.net> Reply-To: "Charles Gregory" From: "Charles Gregory" To: "Richard Howlett" , Cc: , , "Matt Grey" , "Greg O'Keefe" References: <001601c11e19$1f7a29c0$ad00a8c0@Tricky> Subject: Re: Action in Tasmania ? Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:33:49 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hi Richard, I live in Launceston, but will be living in Hobart by the end of the year. There are about 2-4 of us looking at setting up a wireless network in Glenorchy (Chapel St - Tolosa St area, possibly as far as West Moonah if in range) In case you dont live in that area, there are plenty others who are interested but I've got NFI about where they are (exactly) or anything like that, only that they haven't (I dont think) done it yet. Check out http://www.taslug.org.au/mailman/listinfo/wireless for our mailing list etc. I think our page is down :P If you use IRC you can find most of us in #vortex on irc.taslug.org.au. (I've also sent a copy of this email to the others as I'm not sure if they're on the wireless lists). - Charles ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Howlett" To: Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 11:42 AM Subject: Action in Tasmania ? Howdy All, Just came accross this page / group. I'm most keen to get into playing with this wireless networking, and will be trying to catch up with whats going down. I notice a link to Tasmania, but it's not ready as yet. If anyone from Tas preferably from the south could get in contact, would be good to get together and chat. Thanks Richard vk7zbx@mpx.com.au From eyal@eyal.emu.id.au Tue Aug 7 06:38:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from eyal.emu.id.au (CPE-61-9-149-76.vic.bigpond.net.au [61.9.149.76]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5744633 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 06:38:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eyal.emu.id.au (really [127.0.0.1]) by eyal.emu.id.au via in.smtpd with esmtp id (Debian Smail3.2.0.102) for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 23:24:21 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3B6FEC04.356F5809@eyal.emu.id.au> Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 23:24:20 +1000 From: Eyal Lebedinsky Organization: Eyal at Home X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.8-pre4 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless list Subject: IEEE 802 standards freely available Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ The IEEE has released, free of charge, the set of 802 standards. It may be of use to those interested in the detail of the standard, and specifically the wireless (802.11), and more specifically the 2.4GHz (802.11b). http://standards.ieee.org/getieee802/ -- Eyal Lebedinsky (eyal@eyal.emu.id.au) From bhards@bigpond.net.au Tue Aug 7 12:53:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from mailin2.email.bigpond.com (juicer14.bigpond.com [139.134.6.23]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B29D44ACF for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 12:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bigpond.net.au ([144.135.24.75]) by mailin2.email.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GHPRQD00.JKB; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 06:03:49 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-178-48.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.178.48]) by bwmam03.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9g 8323/20961625); 08 Aug 2001 06:03:48 Message-ID: <3B704841.44A242D9@bigpond.net.au> Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 05:57:53 +1000 From: Brad Hards Reply-To: bhards@bigpond.net.au X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.6-ac2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eyal Lebedinsky Cc: wireless list Subject: Re: IEEE 802 standards freely available References: <3B6FEC04.356F5809@eyal.emu.id.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Eyal Lebedinsky wrote: > > The IEEE has released, free of charge, the set of 802 standards. It may > be of use to those interested in the detail of the standard, and > specifically the wireless (802.11), and more specifically the 2.4GHz > (802.11b). It certainly did help my understanding, but if you need the latest info, you still have to pay. Basically, they release to getieee after 6 months of formal publication. For 802.11b, it means that you don't get the latest Corregda. See: http://standards.ieee.org/catalog/olis/product_tip.html Brad From david@gibson.dropbear.id.au Tue Aug 7 23:01:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from localhost (sydney2.au.ibm.com [202.135.142.197]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95449420E for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 23:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dgibson by localhost with local (Exim 3.31 #1 (Debian)) id 15UMPc-0005bb-00 for ; Wed, 08 Aug 2001 16:01:48 +1000 Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:01:48 +1000 From: David Gibson To: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: DWL-650 and apple airport - WEP compatible? Message-ID: <20010808160148.U13608@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@samba.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3B6CD706.6607B254@bigpond.net.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 03:17:58PM +1000, Brad Hards wrote: > David Gibson wrote: > > > As far as I know we haven't been able to get WEP working at all on the > > Prism II cards (such as the D-Link) :-( > > That's going to be mighty annoying. You don't say. > Any idea what the problem might (or might not) be? Well, we just don't know how to tell the firmware what the keys are. > I take it that WEP works with the Prism I cards with the hermes/orinoco > driver, so the problem is likely to be something specific to the HFA3841 or > HFA3842? Well apparently the Lucent cards are also HFA384x. I'm pretty sure this is a firmware issue. > Does WEP work with any driver other than the hermes/orinoco driver? It certainly doesn't work with wvlan_cs.o. Last I knew I didn't think it worked with linux-wlan either, but I should check if that has been added in a recent version. > Did developers sign the NDA > (http://www.intersil.com/design/prism/ss/p2smtrx.asp#-PRISM-Driver > Programmer's Manual) to get the programmers manual, or was most of the code > reverse engineered? Or is there some other option? Mark S. Matthews of Absolute Value Systems signed the NDA, linux-wlan-ng is written based on that information. orinoco_cs is based on reading the code from wvlan_cs (derived from Lucent's published cut-down code, HCF-Light), the AbsoVal driver, and the BSD if_wi driver (based on both HCF-Light and reverse engineering, I believe). > Assuming that WEP works with the windows driver, does anyone have a > recommendation for a windows PCMCIA debug utility that can dump out commands > (analagous to USB Snoopy - http://www.jps.net/~koma/)? That would be nice. I believe SoftICE can do that, but it is not free (in fact very expensive). -- David Gibson | Microsoft: Making the easy things hard david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | and the hard things buggy http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From chrisf@fagmed.uit.no Wed Aug 8 05:29:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from lozen.uit.no (lozen.Uit.No [129.242.5.254]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 099B9434A for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 05:29:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iris.fagmed.uit.no (root@iris.fagmed.uit.no [129.242.52.246]) by lozen.uit.no (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f78CXal15105 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 14:33:36 +0200 (METDST) Received: from fagmed.uit.no (bt06.imb.fm.uit.no [129.242.52.123]) by iris.fagmed.uit.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25280 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 14:33:41 +0200 Message-ID: <3B713449.702456A3@fagmed.uit.no> Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 14:44:57 +0200 From: Chris Fenton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "wireless@lists.samba.org" Subject: buffalo ISA/PCI wireless cards Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Buffalo wireless cards look like the cheapest alternatives here in Norway. They come with both ISA and PCI adapters, and are in stock. Has anyone on the list used these cards ? From paul@busnet.se Wed Aug 8 07:58:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from junior.busnet.se (busnet.se [213.141.78.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D7CA4D73 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 07:58:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from worker ([213.141.80.11]) by junior.busnet.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA01021 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 17:02:15 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Paul_Wis=E9n?= To: Subject: orinoco.cs installing problem!?! Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 17:01:34 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Due to problems with a card that resets itself all the time we are trying to install the orinoco.cs module. There seems not to be sufficient documentation for how to do that though ? How / Where do we compile the driver ? OR what feature should we enable in the kernel to be able to compile the module directly from the kernel source ? Trying: [root@vonanka orinoco-0.06e]# make all cc -MD -O2 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -pipe -D__KERNEL__ -DPCMCIA_DEBUG=1 -DM ODULE -DEXPORT_SYMTAB -I/lib/modules/2.4.7/build/include -c hermes.c hermes.c:20: parse error before `__initdata' hermes.c:20: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `__initdata' hermes.c:20: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast hermes.c:20: warning: data definition has no type or storage class hermes.c:21: parse error before string constant hermes.c:21: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `MODULE_AUTHOR' hermes.c:21: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype hermes.c:21: warning: data definition has no type or storage class hermes.c:22: parse error before string constant hermes.c:22: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `MODULE_DESCRIPTION' hermes.c:22: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype hermes.c:22: warning: data definition has no type or storage class hermes.c: In function `init_hermes': hermes.c:506: `version' undeclared (first use in this function) hermes.c:506: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once hermes.c:506: for each function it appears in.) make: *** [hermes.o] Error 1 The underlaying problem we have is this: Aug 8 16:46:07 vonanka kernel: wvlan_cs: Valid channels: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 Aug 8 16:46:23 vonanka kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out Aug 8 16:46:23 vonanka kernel: wvlan_cs: eth1 Tx timed out! Resetting card Aug 8 16:46:23 vonanka kernel: wvlan_cs: MAC address on eth1 is 00 02 2d 07 3b 31 Aug 8 16:46:23 vonanka kernel: wvlan_cs: Found firmware 0x70034 (vendor 1) - Firmware capabilities : 1-2-1-1-1 Aug 8 16:46:23 vonanka kernel: wvlan_cs: Valid channels: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 Aug 8 16:46:31 vonanka kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out Aug 8 16:46:31 vonanka kernel: wvlan_cs: eth1 Tx timed out! Resetting card Aug 8 16:46:31 vonanka kernel: wvlan_cs: MAC address on eth1 is 00 02 2d 07 3b 31 ... We have firmwhare 7.52 on the cards. It's a multiprocessor Redhat 7.1 with 2.4.7 Kernel We are using pcmcia-cs 3.1.28 / Paul From jingcao@ece.cmu.edu Wed Aug 8 09:47:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from ece.cmu.edu (ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.136.200]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4F04CB5 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 09:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nardis.ece.cmu.edu (NARDIS.ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.133.178]) by ece.cmu.edu (8.11.0/8.10.2) with SMTP id f78Gq0e20317 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 12:52:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 12:52:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Jingcao Hu To: wireless@samba.org Subject: transition from active state to doze state. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hi Gurus: We want to do some experiments for some power management policy on wireless card, in which we hope that we can control the transition from active state to doze state and the transition between doze state and sleep state. The problem is, are there any magic registers that I can access from the driver to do that in linux? Where can I find some useful information about this? Thanks a lot From wailliez@mail.chez.com Wed Aug 8 13:05:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net (bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net [212.100.160.67]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A59B45DA for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 13:05:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 213-193-176-81.adsl.easynet.be ([213.193.176.81] helo=[9.36.80.60]) by bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 15UZe7-0002Bv-00 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Wed, 08 Aug 2001 22:09:39 +0200 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2106 Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 22:10:27 +0200 Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Debugging a helical antenna installation] From: S=?ISO-8859-1?B?6Q==?=bastien Wailliez To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3B6DE0DF.6010709@faceng.anu.edu.au> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hello, Though my helical antenna (http://users.bigpond.net.au/jhecker) may not really be considered a finished product, I tried to test it as it is right now and faced the same problem as was described by Alan. The helical exhibits no gain at all compared to the integrated antenna in my PCMCIA card, it even degrades my signal actually. As I said, the antenna is not finished but I followed the design document scrupulously so far. The antenna is still missing an N-connector at the moment and my Orinoco pigtail cable was taken from the integrated Airport wiring of a PowerMac G4 (i.e. it has an Orinoco proprietary connector on on= e end and bare wiring on the other end). G4's have small range-extenders in their handles and I chose to cut the pigtail cable just before the antenna because I do not plan to use an airport card on that machine and even if I changed my mind I would only need a tiny solder joint. Since I do not have copper tape, I tried to make an impedance converter wit= h various strips of metal. I experimented a bit but never actually got the antenna to work. Any good reference on impedance matching would be appreciated because the explanation in the helical antenna design document is a bit too weak and aimed at that specific project. At the time, the antenna does not have an N-connector yet and I conducted all my experiments by just putting the bare end of the pigtail cable in contact with either the impedance converter or the antenna copper wire. I am really wondering wether there is something wrong with the pigtail cabl= e (Apple Airport is just repackaged Lucent hardware, so the pigtail from a G4 should a priori work), the impedance converter or even the antenna itself. Is there something obviously wrong in my description? Any idea for further investigation? Thanks for helping! S=E9bastien > De=A0: mick stuckings > Date=A0: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 10:12:15 +1000 > =C0=A0: wireless > Objet=A0: [Fwd: Re: Debugging a helical antenna installation] >=20 > Hi, > If it's the cheap 50ohm ethernet, don't even bother trying, that's your > problem. I tried this already :) You could easily be getting >50dB loss > per 10m (I looked that up). > If you order a pre-terminated cable of LMR or similar and cut it in > half, it's cheaper than buying the bits. LMR-400 is a good trade off > with loss vs flexibility for longer runs (that's what others suggested > to me), but it's not so good for connecting straight to the card as it's > a bit thick. > For anyone interested here's what we did with webgears: > http://hilbert.anu.edu.au/~mick/wireless/ > If anyone has any corrections to this I'd be happy to fix it :) > Mick >=20 > Alan Wilkie wrote: >=20 >>> What kind of cable is it? When we were doing this we made sure there wa= s a >>> maximum of 2m of cable at each end and that was pretty expensive cable. >>> We're dealing with 2.4GHz here and you'd be suprised at the kind of cab= le >>> losses you can get. >>=20 >>=20 >> I'm not sure exactly what grade the cable is, all I know is that it's 50 >> ohm coax. I expected that there would be a reasonable amount of >> attenuation in the cabling, but the antennae should be about 14dBi gain >> and I thought there would be loads of signal to play with over the short >> distance we're trying to span. >>=20 >>> With those full length ISA cards we had to chop the cable to get the >>> connector off and we had minor difficulties with the joints, but other = than >>> that it seemed to work OK. From what I remember it's cable losses and >>> impedance that are your major issues. >>=20 >>=20 >> Thanks for that, we'll give it a try with shorter cables and try a >> different method of connecting the cables to the wireless cards. >>=20 >> Alan >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 From J.P.Knight@lboro.ac.uk Thu Aug 9 01:03:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailer1.lut.ac.uk (mailer1.lut.ac.uk [158.125.1.202]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E0E4F96 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 01:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jon (helo=localhost) by mailer1.lut.ac.uk with local-smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 15Ukr6-00030k-00; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 09:07:48 +0100 Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 09:07:48 +0100 (BST) From: Jon Knight X-Sender: jon@mailer1 To: Chris Fenton Cc: "wireless@lists.samba.org" Subject: Re: buffalo ISA/PCI wireless cards In-Reply-To: <3B713449.702456A3@fagmed.uit.no> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Lboro-Filtered: mailer1.lut.ac.uk, Thu, 9 Aug 2001 09:07:48 +0100 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Chris Fenton wrote: > Buffalo wireless cards look like the cheapest alternatives here in > Norway. > They come with both ISA and PCI adapters, and are in stock. > Has anyone on the list used these cards ? I've got a Buffalo PCMCIA card in my laptop - its identical to a Lucent Orinoco Silver card as far as I can tell. I use the wvlan_cs driver with it and its fine (even WEP appears to work, though I don't care too much as I use PPTP or SSH over the link anyway and the access points are on an unrouted VLAN with just one Linux box that lives on both that VLAN and a real, routed VLAN). I didn't have any luck with the Buffalo PCI PCMCIA card though. Its a Ricoh based PCMCIA chipset but the Linux PCMCIA code that I tried with it a few months ago didn't like it. The Lucent ISA PCMCIA card worked fine. We've also got a couple of the Buffalo AirStation access points. These seem OK - they do WEP, have an easily managed web interface (so you can manage them from a Linux box fine) and seem to do roaming OK. *Much* cheaper than the Lucent access points for roughly the same set of features as far as we can tell (certainly fine for our testbed around the top floor of our computer centre). Tatty bye, Jim'll From paul@busnet.se Thu Aug 9 01:24:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from junior.busnet.se (busnet.se [213.141.78.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F9344C8 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 01:24:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from worker ([213.141.80.11]) by junior.busnet.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA05411 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:28:28 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Paul_Wis=E9n?= To: Subject: help ! orinoco_cs Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:27:37 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hmm, is there anybody out there ? we are so stuck here.. wvlan_cs doesn't work well under load. It's being restarted every 10sec. orinoco_cs is supposed to fix that. our problem is, how do we get orinoco_cs up and running?? We don't know where to compile it, if we should compile it our selfs. Or what to turn on in the kernel to get it running directly in the kernel, or being compiled as a module by make modules .. what feature do we need in the kernel ? or how do we compile orinoco_cs ? please somebody ?? We have firmwhare 7.52 on the cards. It's a multiprocessor Redhat 7.1 with 2.4.7 Kernel We are using pcmcia-cs 3.1.28 regards / Paul From paul@messinthecorner.com Thu Aug 9 05:44:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from sslacces.com (unknown [64.23.82.108]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 752194886 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 05:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 73621 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2001 12:48:19 -0000 Received: from cpe-144-132-235-14.nsw.bigpond.net.au (HELO memnoch) (144.132.235.14) by svs6452.sslacces.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 2001 12:48:19 -0000 Message-ID: <001201c120d2$e37d5f70$7000a8c0@memnoch> From: "Paul" To: Subject: Hello Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 22:57:45 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C12126.B3EEA580" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C12126.B3EEA580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, im pretty new to this gorup , and was wondering if any one in = the sydney area of Baulkham Hills / Castle hill / Kellyville area has a = wireless lan setup , or is looking for more people interested in = getting one going . 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Hi all, im pretty new to this gorup , = and was=20 wondering if any one in the sydney area of Baulkham Hills / Castle hill = /=20 Kellyville  area has a wireless lan setup , or is looking for  = more=20 people interested in getting one going .
 
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------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C12126.B3EEA580-- From jon@unicomsystems.com Thu Aug 9 06:05:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailin10.bigpond.com (juicer35.bigpond.com [139.134.6.87]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A1C5050 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 06:05:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jon ([144.135.24.69]) by mailin10.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GHSY5Z00.DAL; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 23:15:35 +1000 Received: from CPE-144-132-229-79.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([144.132.229.79]) by bwmam01.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9g 8311/422777); 09 Aug 2001 23:15:35 Message-ID: <06d101c120d4$7484cb60$4fe58490@nsw.bigpond.net.au> From: "Jon Teh" To: "Paul" Cc: References: <001201c120d2$e37d5f70$7000a8c0@memnoch> Subject: Re: Hello Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 23:08:59 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul To: Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 10:57 PM Subject: Hello <<>> Believe it or not, I'm in the process of setting up Sydney Wireless Network, and am very near the area you speak of. Jon Teh From david@gibson.dropbear.id.au Thu Aug 9 18:30:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from localhost (sydney2.au.ibm.com [202.135.142.197]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D9714790 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 18:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dgibson by localhost with local (Exim 3.31 #1 (Debian)) id 15V18U-0004L3-00 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:30:50 +1000 Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:30:50 +1000 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: help ! orinoco_cs Message-ID: <20010810113050.A15068@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 10:27:37AM +0200, Paul Wis?n wrote: > > Hmm, is there anybody out there ? > we are so stuck here.. > > wvlan_cs doesn't work well under load. It's being restarted every 10sec. > orinoco_cs is supposed to fix that. > > our problem is, how do we get orinoco_cs up and running?? > We don't know where to compile it, if we should compile it our selfs. Or > what to turn on in the kernel > to get it running directly in the kernel, or being compiled as a module by > make modules .. > > what feature do we need in the kernel ? > or > how do we compile orinoco_cs ? The easiest way to get orinoco_cs is to use a recent 2.4.x kernel which includes it. Just switch it on in your kernel config. If you're running a pre 2.4.x kernel I'm afraid you're out of luck until somebody can find the time to do a backport. -- David Gibson | Microsoft: Making the easy things hard david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | and the hard things buggy http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From Peter.Harback@becc.com.au Thu Aug 9 20:39:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from www.becc.com.au (unknown [203.39.153.142]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4028947BA for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 20:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by BECCSERV with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:44:32 +1000 Message-ID: <710B54489803D4118637004F490149660F0E06@BECCSERV> From: Peter Harback To: "'wireless@lists.samba.org'" Cc: dev@seattlewireless.net, wireless@invitro.stpatricks.tas.edu.au Subject: Antenna Designs. Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:44:31 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hello, I've just come across two antenna designs that I haven't seen before. Waveguide Antenna http://www.saunalahti.fi/~elepal/antenna2.html 14 dBi Directional Panel antenna http://www.saunalahti.fi/~elepal/antenna1.html Enjoy.. From paul@busnet.se Fri Aug 10 01:56:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from junior.busnet.se (busnet.se [213.141.78.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B9853DD for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:56:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from worker ([213.141.80.11]) by junior.busnet.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA12695; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:00:40 +0200 From: =?us-ascii?Q?Paul_Wisen?= To: "David Gibson" Cc: Subject: SV: help ! orinoco_cs Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:00:36 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20010810113050.A15068@zax> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hi, I've been trying to find orinoco_cs in the kernel for weeks.. ;) Now, I got an answer from another guy telling me that its not called orinoco in the kernel, it's called hermes .. "Note that it's called "hermes" in the kernel stuff." Well.. that helps a LOT :) I'm gonna try to mess around with that today and see if I can get it up and running. We are using it to do a jump between tva distant routers in our network here. Do you know what mode is the best to do a point to point jump ? Ad-Hoc, Master and Managed or IBSS ? The other machine is using wvlan_cs in Ad-Hoc mode, will Ad-Hoc on orinoco_cs work with that ? well.. got to go back, need to recompile the kernel.. again! ;) regards / paul > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Fran: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org > [mailto:wireless-admin@lists.samba.org]For David Gibson > Skickat: den 10 augusti 2001 03:31 > Till: wireless@lists.samba.org > Amne: Re: help ! orinoco_cs > > > On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 10:27:37AM +0200, Paul Wis?n wrote: > > > > Hmm, is there anybody out there ? > > we are so stuck here.. > > > > wvlan_cs doesn't work well under load. It's being restarted every 10sec. > > orinoco_cs is supposed to fix that. > > > > our problem is, how do we get orinoco_cs up and running?? > > We don't know where to compile it, if we should compile it our selfs. Or > > what to turn on in the kernel > > to get it running directly in the kernel, or being compiled as > a module by > > make modules .. > > > > what feature do we need in the kernel ? > > or > > how do we compile orinoco_cs ? > > The easiest way to get orinoco_cs is to use a recent 2.4.x kernel > which includes it. Just switch it on in your kernel config. If > you're running a pre 2.4.x kernel I'm afraid you're out of luck until > somebody can find the time to do a backport. > > -- > David Gibson | Microsoft: Making the easy things hard > david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | and the hard things buggy > http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson > > From Sir_Gawain@camlann.de Fri Aug 10 02:20:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from zaphod.wh9.tu-dresden.de (wh9.tu-dresden.de [141.76.120.10]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 350F753EA for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 02:20:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from camlann.de (gawain@x1003ac.wh9.tu-dresden.de [141.76.120.171]) by zaphod.wh9.tu-dresden.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id LAA15217 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:24:28 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: zaphod.wh9.tu-dresden.de: Host gawain@x1003ac.wh9.tu-dresden.de [141.76.120.171] claimed to be camlann.de Message-ID: <3B73A847.40100@camlann.de> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:24:23 +0200 From: Sir Gawain Organization: TU Dresden User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.3+) Gecko/20010805 X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: error -16 writing header to BAP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hi People! We have a anoying problem with our orinoco card. The card is brand new (a week old) and we tried to install it under linux (debian testing). this is a orioco gold. there is another card in the router (orinoco bronze). at the moment the server is running fine under freebsd 3.3. we installed linux on a extra hd and installed the new card. now we tried to get the bronze-card up and running. there we have the right cabling and a working station on the other side. both cards are recognized correctly and set up for eth1 and eth2. (eth0 is a vortex-ethercard). we have to use transfernets, so eth0 is 141.76.120.8/24, eth1 141.30.4.121/30 and eth2 141.30.4.125/30. the routes for the transfernets are set up correctly, we can ping the router on the other site (141.30.4.122/30). this router has also the 141.76.121.1, so we set up a route > route add -net 141.76.121.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 141.30.4.122 eth1 now we pinged 141.76.121.1, and it was ok. after that we tried to ping another machine in this net (141.76.121.6) and got the error -16 (s.subject). this error is printed out in an endless loop... the error occures while pinging all ips in the net exept 141.76.121.1! this card works fine under freebsd! so the card is not corrupt or the radiolink down... what is the problem? how can we solve it? -- Bye, Gawain (ICQ: 81736439) -- PGP-Key: http://www.wh9.tu-dresden.de/~gawain/key.asc -- Frage: Was ist weiss und springt von Baum zu Baum? Antwort: Ein osterreichischer Arzt beim Zeckenimpfen. From paalf@csc.no Fri Aug 10 04:06:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from csc.no (unknown [193.69.106.194]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62EA64B8B for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 04:06:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from csc.no (IDENT:nobody@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by csc.no (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f7ABAhJ26885 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:10:43 +0200 Received: from 195.139.2.164 (SquirrelMail authenticated user paalf) by classic.csc.no with HTTP; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:10:43 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3876.195.139.2.164.997441843.squirrel@classic.csc.no> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:10:43 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Melco/Buffalo PCI->PCMCIA From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Fladsrud?=" To: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.0.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hi! I am new to this list, and my linux is a bit rusty (I think 0.96 was the last kernel I used...). I am trying to set up a WLI-PCI-OP-3 PCI bridge adapter from Buffalo and use Buffalo WLI-PCM-L11 PCMCIA card inside. After lots of reading and trying/failing, I have now upgraded my kernel to 2.4.7, and I am trying to get the orinoco_cs to do the magic. But now am am stuck, and I need som hints on where to go from here. In the kernel I have enabled "Wireless LAN(non-hamradio)" and "Hermes support". please, anyone? Am I on the right track? Below you will find outputs from : #cat /proc/pci #cat /proc/interupts #cat /proc/ioports #cat /proc/iomem #ls -l /proc/hermes #ls -ltr /etc/pcmcia #cat /var/log/dmesg extract from /var/log/messages --------------------------------------------------- #cat /proc/pci PCI devices found: Bus 0, device 0, function 0: Host bridge: Intel Corporation 430HX - 82439HX TXC [Triton II] (rev 1). Master Capable. Latency=64. Bus 0, device 7, function 0: ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371SB PIIX3 ISA [Natoma/Triton II] (rev 1). Bus 0, device 7, function 1: IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371SB PIIX3 IDE [Natoma/Triton II] (rev 0). Master Capable. Latency=64. I/O at 0xffa0 [0xffaf]. Bus 0, device 8, function 0: VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 264VT [Mach64 VT] (rev 8). Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfe000000 [0xfeffffff]. Bus 0, device 11, function 0: CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c475 (rev 128). Master Capable. Latency=168. Max Lat=5. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0x10000000 [0x10000fff]. cat /proc/interupts CPU0 0: 648777 XT-PIC timer 1: 4562 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 5: 458 XT-PIC eth0 12: 19162 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse 14: 8063 XT-PIC ide0 15: 2 XT-PIC ide1 NMI: 0 LOC: 0 ERR: 0 MIS: 0 cat /proc/ioports 0000-001f : dma1 0020-003f : pic1 0040-005f : timer 0060-006f : keyboard 0080-008f : dma page reg 00a0-00bf : pic2 00c0-00df : dma2 00f0-00ff : fpu 0170-0177 : ide1 01f0-01f7 : ide0 0213-0213 : isapnp read 0220-022f : 3c509 PnP 02f8-02ff : serial(auto) 0376-0376 : ide1 03c0-03df : vga+ 03f6-03f6 : ide0 03f8-03ff : serial(auto) 0a79-0a79 : isapnp write 0cf8-0cff : PCI conf1 1000-10ff : PCI CardBus #01 1400-14ff : PCI CardBus #01 ffa0-ffaf : Intel Corporation 82371SB PIIX3 IDE [Natoma/Triton II] ffa0-ffa7 : ide0 ffa8-ffaf : ide1 #cat /proc/iomem 00000000-0009fbff : System RAM 000a0000-000bffff : Video RAM area 000c0000-000c7fff : Video ROM 000f0000-000fffff : System ROM 00100000-02ffffff : System RAM 00100000-00239da0 : Kernel code 00239da1-002aa3df : Kernel data 10000000-10000fff : Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c475 10400000-107fffff : PCI CardBus #01 10800000-10bfffff : PCI CardBus #01 fe000000-feffffff : ATI Technologies Inc 264VT [Mach64 VT] fffc0000-ffffffff : reserved # ls -l /proc/hermes total 0 ls -ltr /etc/pcmcia total 148 -r--r--r-- 1 root root 5111 Mar 11 22:25 wireless.opts.org -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 2609 Mar 11 22:25 wireless -r--r--r-- 1 root root 3556 Mar 11 22:25 shared -r--r--r-- 1 root root 407 Mar 11 22:25 serial.opts -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 2357 Mar 11 22:25 serial -r--r--r-- 1 root root 573 Mar 11 22:25 scsi.opts -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 1888 Mar 11 22:25 scsi -r--r--r-- 1 root root 308 Mar 11 22:25 parport.opts -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 1622 Mar 11 22:25 parport -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 657 Mar 11 22:25 network.org -r--r--r-- 1 root root 318 Mar 11 22:25 memory.opts -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 2303 Mar 11 22:25 memory -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 190 Mar 11 22:25 isdn -r--r--r-- 1 root root 486 Mar 11 22:25 ide.opts -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 1773 Mar 11 22:25 ide -r--r--r-- 1 root root 251 Mar 11 22:25 ftl.opts -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 1526 Mar 11 22:25 ftl -r--r--r-- 1 root root 42784 Mar 11 22:25 config drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jun 10 02:46 cis -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5211 Aug 1 00:14 wireless.opt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 240 Aug 1 00:29 network -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1765 Aug 6 21:49 config.opts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1860 Aug 10 00:47 hermes.conf (hermes.conf is unchanged from the one at JT's web-page) # cat /var/log/dmesg Linux version 2.4.7 (root@linux) (gcc version 2.96 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.1 2.96-81)) #3 SMP Thu Aug 9 22:47:53 CEST 2001 BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009fc00 (usable) BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 0000000003000000 (usable) BIOS-e820: 00000000fffc0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) Scan SMP from c0000000 for 1024 bytes. Scan SMP from c009fc00 for 1024 bytes. Scan SMP from c00f0000 for 65536 bytes. Scan SMP from c009fc00 for 4096 bytes. On node 0 totalpages: 12288 zone(0): 4096 pages. zone(1): 8192 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. mapped APIC to ffffe000 (010cd000) Kernel command line: auto BOOT_IMAGE=nyKjerne ro root=301 BOOT_FILE=/boot/bzImage.ipchains.9aug01 Initializing CPU#0 Detected 166.197 MHz processor. Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 Calibrating delay loop... 331.77 BogoMIPS Memory: 45704k/49152k available (1255k kernel code, 3060k reserved, 449k data, 204k init, 0k highmem) Dentry-cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 4, 65536 bytes) Inode-cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 3, 32768 bytes) Mount-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order: 1, 8192 bytes) Buffer-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) Page-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes) CPU: Before vendor init, caps: 000001bf 00000000 00000000, vendor = 0 Intel Pentium with F0 0F bug - workaround enabled. Intel old style machine check architecture supported. Intel old style machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. CPU: After vendor init, caps: 000001bf 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: After generic, caps: 000001bf 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: Common caps: 000001bf 00000000 00000000 00000000 Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX CPU: Before vendor init, caps: 000001bf 00000000 00000000, vendor = 0 Intel old style machine check architecture supported. Intel old style machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. CPU: After vendor init, caps: 000001bf 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: After generic, caps: 000001bf 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: Common caps: 000001bf 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU0: Intel Pentium 75 - 200 stepping 0c per-CPU timeslice cutoff: 159.89 usecs. SMP motherboard not detected. Using dummy APIC emulation. Setting commenced=1, go go go PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfd931, last bus=0 PCI: Using configuration type 1 PCI: Probing PCI hardware got res[10000000:10000fff] for resource 0 of Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c475 Limiting direct PCI/PCI transfers. Activating ISA DMA hang workarounds. isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards... isapnp: Card '3Com 3C509B EtherLink III' isapnp: 1 Plug & Play card detected total Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 Starting kswapd v1.8 NTFS version 1.1.15 pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with MANY_PORTS SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A block: queued sectors max/low 30232kB/10077kB, 128 slots per queue Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx PIIX3: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39 PIIX3: chipset revision 0 PIIX3: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later ide0: BM-DMA at 0xffa0-0xffa7, BIOS settings: hda:pio, hdb:pio ide1: BM-DMA at 0xffa8-0xffaf, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio hda: ST33221A, ATA DISK drive hdc: NEC CD-ROM DRIVE:28B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 hda: 6303024 sectors (3227 MB) w/128KiB Cache, CHS=781/128/63, (U)DMA hdc: ATAPI 32X CD-ROM drive, 256kB Cache, DMA Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12 Partition check: hda: hda1 hda2 < hda5 > Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M FDC 0 is a National Semiconductor PC87306 eth0: 3c5x9 at 0x220, 10baseT port, address 00 a0 24 2c c6 1c, IRQ 5. 3c509.c:1.18 12Mar2001 becker@scyld.com http://www.scyld.com/network/3c509.html Linux agpgart interface v0.99 (c) Jeff Hartmann agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 16M agpgart: no supported devices found. [drm] Initialized tdfx 1.0.0 20000928 on minor 63 [drm:radeon_init] *ERROR* Cannot initialize agpgart module. Linux Kernel Card Services 3.1.22 options: [pci] [cardbus] [pm] PCI: Enabling device 00:0b.0 (0000 -> 0002) PCI: No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device 00:0b.0. Please try using pci=biosirq. dldwd: David's Less Dodgy WaveLAN/IEEE Driver orinoco_cs.c 0.06 (David Gibson and others) orinoco.c 0.06c (David Gibson and others) hermes.c: 12 Dec 2000 David Gibson NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP IP: routing cache hash table of 512 buckets, 4Kbytes TCP: Hash tables configured (established 4096 bind 4096) NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0. Yenta IRQ list 0000, PCI irq0 Socket status: 30000410 VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. Freeing unused kernel memory: 204k freed Adding Swap: 100760k swap-space (priority -1) from /var/log/messages Aug 10 11:49:28 linux sysctl: net.ipv4.ip_forward = 0 Aug 10 11:49:28 linux sysctl: net.ipv4.conf.all.rp_filter = 1 Aug 10 11:49:28 linux network: Setting network parameters: succeeded Aug 10 11:49:30 linux network: Bringing up interface lo: succeeded Aug 10 11:49:31 linux kernel: eth0: Setting Rx mode to 0 addresses. Aug 10 11:49:31 linux kernel: eth0: Setting Rx mode to 1 addresses. Aug 10 11:49:32 linux network: Bringing up interface eth0: succeeded Aug 10 11:49:32 linux modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module eth1 Aug 10 11:49:32 linux ifup: Delaying eth1 initialization. Aug 10 11:49:32 linux network: Bringing up interface eth1: failed -- Pål Fladsrud From Sir_Gawain@camlann.de Fri Aug 10 04:39:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from zaphod.wh9.tu-dresden.de (wh9.tu-dresden.de [141.76.120.10]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3206B5466 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 04:39:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from camlann.de (gawain@x1003ac.wh9.tu-dresden.de [141.76.120.171]) by zaphod.wh9.tu-dresden.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA26168 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:43:34 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: zaphod.wh9.tu-dresden.de: Host gawain@x1003ac.wh9.tu-dresden.de [141.76.120.171] claimed to be camlann.de Message-ID: <3B73C8E1.5000109@camlann.de> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:43:29 +0200 From: Sir Gawain Organization: TU Dresden User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.3+) Gecko/20010805 X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless Subject: Re: error -16 writing header to BAP References: <3B73A847.40100@camlann.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sir Gawain wrote: > Hi People! > > We have a anoying problem with our orinoco card. > The card is brand new (a week old) and we tried to install it > under linux (debian testing). this is a orioco gold. missed to say: we use the module which is coming with kernel 2.4.7. wireless tools are installed (20.x). iwconfig crashes after printing the infos for a card (on both cards). pcmcia package is the actual debian testing package. we are using orinoco_cs driver. -- Bye, Gawain (ICQ: 81736439) -- PGP-Key: http://www.wh9.tu-dresden.de/~gawain/key.asc -- Frage: Was ist weiss und springt von Baum zu Baum? Antwort: Ein osterreichischer Arzt beim Zeckenimpfen. From J.P.Knight@lboro.ac.uk Fri Aug 10 10:04:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailer1.lut.ac.uk (mailer1.lut.ac.uk [158.125.1.202]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C8D42ED for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:03:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jon (helo=localhost) by mailer1.lut.ac.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 15VFlF-00071m-00; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 18:07:49 +0100 Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 18:07:49 +0100 (BST) From: Jon Knight X-Sender: jon@mailer1 To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Fladsrud?= Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Melco/Buffalo PCI->PCMCIA In-Reply-To: <3876.195.139.2.164.997441843.squirrel@classic.csc.no> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Lboro-Filtered: mailer1.lut.ac.uk, Fri, 10 Aug 2001 18:07:49 +0100 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Fri, 10 Aug 2001, P=E5l Fladsrud wrote: > I am new to this list, and my linux is a bit rusty (I think 0.96 was the= =20 > last kernel I used...). I am trying to set up a WLI-PCI-OP-3 PCI bridge= =20 > adapter from Buffalo and use Buffalo WLI-PCM-L11 PCMCIA card inside. I've got that PCI card in a 2.2.x Linux box and never got it to work. A Lucent ISA PCMCIA bridge worked fine (with both the Buffalo and Lucent PCMCIA 802.11b cards). I've not tried it again with 2.4.x but I _think_=20 it _might_ depend on the PCMCIA package more than the kernel. > PCI: Enabling device 00:0b.0 (0000 -> 0002) > PCI: No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device 00:0b.0. Please try using= =20 > pci=3Dbiosirq. That could be one problem - you might need to assign an IRQ for the PCI card. Tatty bye, Jim'll From jonesmb@arthem.com Fri Aug 10 11:01:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail01e.rapidsite.net (mail01e.rapidsite.net [207.158.192.42]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BA625448D for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.arthem.com (209.238.115.243) by mail01e.rapidsite.net (RS ver 1.0.60s) with SMTP id 027464401 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:48:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010810124839.00a80a20@arthem.com> X-Sender: jonesmb@arthem.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:48:39 -0500 To: wireless@lists.samba.org From: JonesMB Subject: Re: error -16 writing header to BAP In-Reply-To: <3B73A847.40100@camlann.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Loop-Detect: 1 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Yesterday I upgraded my Debian (woody) system's kernel from 2.2.17 to 2.4.7 so I would be able to use the orinoco_cs driver. I wanted to change because wv_lan sometimes caused my system to lock up with kernel panics. This morning I noticed that CPU load was going up (0.5 -> 3.x). When I looked on the console I saw the message "error -5 writing header to BAP" being written to the screen continuously. It went away after I stopped & restarted the PCMCIA service. At that time I was taking a tcpdump trace of the wireless interface. tcpdump was reporting something about a "snap length" being "too short". I would also like to know what causes this "writing header to BAP" error. Thanks to you guys who have worked on the driver. You have made it a lot more convenient to use my LAN at home. jmb At 11:24 AM 8/10/01 +0200, Sir Gawain wrote: >Hi People! > >We have a anoying problem with our orinoco card. >The card is brand new (a week old) and we tried to install it >under linux (debian testing). this is a orioco gold. >there is another card in the router (orinoco bronze). >at the moment the server is running fine under freebsd 3.3. >we installed linux on a extra hd and installed the new >card. now we tried to get the bronze-card up and running. >there we have the right cabling and a working station on the >other side. >both cards are recognized correctly and set up for eth1 and >eth2. (eth0 is a vortex-ethercard). we have to use transfernets, >so eth0 is 141.76.120.8/24, eth1 141.30.4.121/30 and eth2 >141.30.4.125/30. the routes for the transfernets are set up >correctly, we can ping the router on the other site (141.30.4.122/30). >this router has also the 141.76.121.1, so we set up a route > > route add -net 141.76.121.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 141.30.4.122 eth1 >now we pinged 141.76.121.1, and it was ok. after that we tried to >ping another machine in this net (141.76.121.6) and got the error >-16 (s.subject). this error is printed out in an endless loop... >the error occures while pinging all ips in the net exept 141.76.121.1! >this card works fine under freebsd! so the card is not corrupt or >the radiolink down... >what is the problem? how can we solve it? > >-- >Bye, Gawain (ICQ: 81736439) >-- >PGP-Key: http://www.wh9.tu-dresden.de/~gawain/key.asc >-- >Frage: Was ist weiss und springt von Baum zu Baum? >Antwort: Ein osterreichischer Arzt beim Zeckenimpfen. > > > From martian@netfort.gr.jp Fri Aug 10 16:19:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from asky.kyoto-inet.or.jp (asky.picky.or.jp [202.245.159.17]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20374435A for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 16:19:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tec-tech.com (dod-ksw1-70.kcom.ne.jp [210.142.25.70]) by asky.kyoto-inet.or.jp (8.9.3/3.7W-20010808) with SMTP id IAA16191 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 08:23:27 +0900 Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 08:23:26 +0900 From: Masayuki Watanabe To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Melco/Buffalo PCI->PCMCIA Message-Id: <20010811082326.6df1b541.martian@netfort.gr.jp> In-Reply-To: <3876.195.139.2.164.997441843.squirrel@classic.csc.no> References: <3876.195.139.2.164.997441843.squirrel@classic.csc.no> Organization: Tec-Technology Laboratory X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.5.2 (GTK+ 1.2.8; i586-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ In the region which I understand, kernel pcmcia feature in 2.4.X do not yet support PCI-CARDBUS Bridge . So, please try without kernel pcmcia . _From: "P$BiM(B Fladsrud" _Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:10:43 +0200 (CEST) _Subject: wireless@lists.samba.org > Hi! > > I am new to this list, and my linux is a bit rusty (I think 0.96 was the > last kernel I used...). I am trying to set up a WLI-PCI-OP-3 PCI bridge > adapter from Buffalo and use Buffalo WLI-PCM-L11 PCMCIA card inside. > > After lots of reading and trying/failing, I have now upgraded my kernel to > 2.4.7, and I am trying to get the orinoco_cs to do the magic. But now am > am stuck, and I need som hints on where to go from here. > > In the kernel I have enabled "Wireless LAN(non-hamradio)" and > "Hermes support". > > please, anyone? Am I on the right track? -- Masayuki Watanabe Tec-Technology Laboratory : martian@tec-tech.com Linux Users Group LILO : martian@netfort.gr.jp Silicon Linux Users Group : martian@si-linux.org From jason.morgan@vpnsolutions.fsnet.co.uk Sat Aug 11 03:09:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.177]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFA3415D for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 03:09:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from modem-92.boron.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.4.92] helo=harry.vpnsolutions.local) by cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 15VVlq-0000Wm-00 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 11:13:31 +0100 From: "Jason Morgan" To: Subject: RE: Melco/Buffalo PCI->PCMCIA Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 11:21:04 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20010811082326.6df1b541.martian@netfort.gr.jp> Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ I tried to use the Buffalo card under linux without much success. With modules PCMCIA and some kernel messing, I managed to get some success in that the card responds to network start and stop. I could not get an identical card in a WinDoze machine to see it, in the end I gave up and bought an SMC card instead, the Buffalo is now used only under 95. The SMC card works fine as an access point for the other cards or as adhoc. If anybody get more success with Buffalo than I did, don't keep it a secret ;) J. -----Original Message----- From: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org [mailto:wireless-admin@lists.samba.org]On Behalf Of Masayuki Watanabe Sent: 11 August 2001 00:23 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Melco/Buffalo PCI->PCMCIA In the region which I understand, kernel pcmcia feature in 2.4.X do not yet support PCI-CARDBUS Bridge . So, please try without kernel pcmcia . _From: "P$BiM(B Fladsrud" _Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:10:43 +0200 (CEST) _Subject: wireless@lists.samba.org > Hi! > > I am new to this list, and my linux is a bit rusty (I think 0.96 was the > last kernel I used...). I am trying to set up a WLI-PCI-OP-3 PCI bridge > adapter from Buffalo and use Buffalo WLI-PCM-L11 PCMCIA card inside. > > After lots of reading and trying/failing, I have now upgraded my kernel to > 2.4.7, and I am trying to get the orinoco_cs to do the magic. But now am > am stuck, and I need som hints on where to go from here. > > In the kernel I have enabled "Wireless LAN(non-hamradio)" and > "Hermes support". > > please, anyone? Am I on the right track? -- Masayuki Watanabe Tec-Technology Laboratory : martian@tec-tech.com Linux Users Group LILO : martian@netfort.gr.jp Silicon Linux Users Group : martian@si-linux.org From karthikkani@yahoo.co.uk Sat Aug 11 03:30:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from web13105.mail.yahoo.com (web13105.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.150]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 64E49415D for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 03:30:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010811103443.73188.qmail@web13105.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.104.228.150] by web13105.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 03:34:43 PDT Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 03:34:43 -0700 (PDT) From: KARTHIK KANI Subject: about wireless training To: wireless@samba.org Cc: Robert.Edwards@anu.edu.au MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ hai i got ur mail address form a search...i would like to know about any training possibilities in wireless and related technilogy in a practical manner in melbourne i'm a Master's student in Information technology in RMIT...i'm getting crazy with the wireless stuff and i wanna know a lot...please get me out. thank u kani __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From blymn@baesystems.com.au Sat Aug 11 05:23:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from sbproxy.baea.com.au (gateway.baea.com.au [202.20.20.129]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB3D4221 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 05:23:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bunya.awadi ([150.207.4.63]) by sbproxy.baea.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA06656; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 21:56:11 +0930 (CST) Received: from mallee.awadi by bunya.awadi (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA16005; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 21:58:39 +0930 Received: by mallee.awadi (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA05981; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 22:00:11 +0930 From: blymn@baesystems.com.au (Brett Lymn) Message-Id: <200108111230.WAA05981@mallee.awadi> Subject: Re: Melco/Buffalo PCI->PCMCIA To: paalf@csc.no (=?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Fladsrud?=) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 22:00:11 +0930 (CST) Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org In-Reply-To: <3876.195.139.2.164.997441843.squirrel@classic.csc.no> from "=?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Fladsrud?=" at Aug 10, 2001 01:10:43 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ According to =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Fladsrud?=: > >I am new to this list, and my linux is a bit rusty (I think 0.96 was the=20 >last kernel I used...). I am trying to set up a WLI-PCI-OP-3 PCI bridge=20 >adapter from Buffalo and use Buffalo WLI-PCM-L11 PCMCIA card inside. > Well, if you are not too passionate about using Linux, you could try running NetBSD on the machine and see if the pci->pcmcia bridge code works any better for you. -- =============================================================================== Brett Lymn, Computer Systems Administrator, BAE SYSTEMS =============================================================================== From awesley@acquerra.com.au Sat Aug 11 17:22:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from triton.bird.org (CPE-61-9-149-220.vic.bigpond.net.au [61.9.149.220]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C109547FA for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 17:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acquerra.com.au (saturn.bird.org [192.168.3.12]) by triton.bird.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23259; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:25:51 +1000 Message-ID: <3B75CC9E.171C79E4@acquerra.com.au> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:23:58 +1000 From: Anthony Wesley Reply-To: awesley@acquerra.com.au Organization: Acquerra Pty Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brett Lymn Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l?= Fladsrud , wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Melco/Buffalo PCI->PCMCIA References: <200108111230.WAA05981@mallee.awadi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Brett Lymn wrote: > > According to =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Fladsrud?=: > > > >I am new to this list, and my linux is a bit rusty (I think 0.96 was the=20 > >last kernel I used...). I am trying to set up a WLI-PCI-OP-3 PCI bridge=20 > >adapter from Buffalo and use Buffalo WLI-PCM-L11 PCMCIA card inside. > > > > Well, if you are not too passionate about using Linux, you could try > running NetBSD on the machine and see if the pci->pcmcia bridge code > works any better for you. From your earlier email I saw, it looks like you are using the Ricoh PCI cardbus bridge. I (and several people I know) are using this same PCI bridge under Linux - both 2.2 and 2.4 series kernels - without any difficulty at all, so I doubt that the bridge is your problem. cheers, Anthony From alan@objcomp.com.au Sun Aug 12 15:36:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from gw.objcomp.com.au (CPE-61-9-189-39.vic.bigpond.net.au [61.9.189.39]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E4AC41A2 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from objcomp.com.au (oc1 [192.168.0.2]) by gw.objcomp.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f7CMmrf29145 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 08:48:53 +1000 Message-ID: <3B7705FB.70EB833A@objcomp.com.au> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 08:40:59 +1000 From: Alan Wilkie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Antenna problem solved References: <20010812190202.320924B10@lists.samba.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Over the weekend we finally resolved the saga of trying to get our new helical antennas working. Thanks to the people who wrote to me with suggestions, I thought for future reference you might be interested to know what the problems were. Several people suggested that cable attenuation might be a problem, so we tried ever shorter pieces of cable until we got down to about 50cm, and still got nothing even when the aerials were in the same room. We were using RG58 at that stage, and while its attenuation is high, we still expected to get some kind of signal. We also didn't have the right connector for the back of the WL200 card (reverse thread SMA), so we had the cable soldered directly onto the card. It was definitely soldered to the same pins that go out to the connector, but it seems that the signal didn't like turning the corner. When we got the pigtails with the proper connectors, the link sprang to life. The pigtails are also wired using low loss RG58, so it appears that the connectors are an important part of the whole process. Something else for future experimenters to note is that it seems that having the antennas close to or on the ground is a bad thing. In one test we had the antennas just a few metres apart with perfect line of sight, one elevated and one on the ground. The connection was there, but patchy and could be disrupted just by walking in front of the antenna. When we put the second aerial up on a pole, the signal was apparently much stronger and much harder to disrupt. Anyway we got our first association between the houses working yesterday and all is well. Cheers, Alan From J.P.Knight@lboro.ac.uk Mon Aug 13 01:20:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailer1.lut.ac.uk (mailer1.lut.ac.uk [158.125.1.202]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE464648 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 01:20:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jon (helo=localhost) by mailer1.lut.ac.uk with local-smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 15WD1W-0003wM-00; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 09:24:34 +0100 Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 09:24:34 +0100 (BST) From: Jon Knight X-Sender: jon@mailer1 To: Anthony Wesley Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Melco/Buffalo PCI->PCMCIA In-Reply-To: <3B75CC9E.171C79E4@acquerra.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Lboro-Filtered: mailer1.lut.ac.uk, Mon, 13 Aug 2001 09:24:35 +0100 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Sun, 12 Aug 2001, Anthony Wesley wrote: > From your earlier email I saw, it looks like you are using the Ricoh PCI > cardbus bridge. I (and several people I know) are using this same PCI > bridge under Linux - both 2.2 and 2.4 series kernels - without any > difficulty at all, so I doubt that the bridge is your problem. Well I had problems with the Buffalo PCI bridge under 2.2.x but the Buffalo PCMCIA card itself (WLM-11) works fine under 2.2.x (2.2.17 in my case at the moment). Looks just like a Lucent Silver to the Linux wvlan_cs driver. Tatty bye, Jim'll From Sir_Gawain@camlann.de Mon Aug 13 10:51:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from zaphod.wh9.tu-dresden.de (wh9.tu-dresden.de [141.76.120.10]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E291858BA for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 10:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from camlann.de (gawain@x1003ac.wh9.tu-dresden.de [141.76.120.171]) by zaphod.wh9.tu-dresden.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA13141 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 19:47:26 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: zaphod.wh9.tu-dresden.de: Host gawain@x1003ac.wh9.tu-dresden.de [141.76.120.171] claimed to be camlann.de Message-ID: <3B7812AD.5060000@camlann.de> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 19:47:25 +0200 From: Sir Gawain Organization: TU Dresden User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.3+) Gecko/20010805 X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: wavelan2_cs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ hi! is there somewhere a version of wavelan2_cs that compiles under linux kernel 2.4.7 and pcmcia-cs 3.1.28? i want to try if that driver also produces this error -16 writing header to BAP...but i cant get it compiled... -- Bye, Gawain (ICQ: 81736439) -- PGP-Key: http://www.wh9.tu-dresden.de/~gawain/key.asc -- Frage: Was ist weiss und springt von Baum zu Baum? Antwort: Ein osterreichischer Arzt beim Zeckenimpfen. From CRH_Telnet@bigpond.com Mon Aug 13 18:44:22 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.crhtelnet.com.au (unknown [203.47.15.65]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60DC84D77 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 18:31:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slaptop ([10.0.0.22]) by mail.crhtelnet.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA01325 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 01:34:06 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010814093543.008f24f0@mail.bigpond.com> X-Sender: CRH_Telnet@mail.bigpond.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 09:35:43 +0800 To: wireless@lists.samba.org From: Chris Hill Subject: LRP for notebook ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hi, I'm trying to get LRP to run on an old IBM ThinkPad, which has 3 PCMCIA slots. One of the slots is taken up with a 248MB "Harddrive", the other 2 are used for a Lucent 802.11b wireless ethernet card, and the other for a PCMCIA 10BASE-T ethernet card. (I actually have 2 different 10BASE-T cards to choose from... an IBM EtherJet PCMCIA card, which I think needs the cs89x0.o module, and an "IC-CARD+" el-cheapo card, which needs the pcnet_cs.o module). I've managed to get different LRP images to either get the wireless side running, or to at least recognise the ethernet card, but haven't managed to do both at the same time yet... Does anyone have, or know of, a working LRP image that can be used to turn an old laptop / notebook into a simple wireless-to-wired ethernet router? (No firewalling needed in this particular case). Any suggestions most welcome! Thanks, Chris Perth, Western Australia From steedman@bigpond.net.au Mon Aug 13 19:07:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailin7.bigpond.com (juicer38.bigpond.com [139.134.6.95]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56844D4B for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 19:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from woo ([139.134.4.56]) by mailin7.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GI1CV000.FNT; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:13:48 +1000 Received: from CPE-144-132-139-49.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([144.132.139.49]) by mail3.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9g 5/3226558); 14 Aug 2001 12:08:27 Message-ID: <000701c12465$f7079290$0100a8c0@woo> From: "Glen Steedman" To: , "Chris Hill" References: <3.0.5.32.20010814093543.008f24f0@mail.bigpond.com> Subject: Re: LRP for notebook ? Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:08:09 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ http://lrp.bluefx.com/contrib/disk_images.htm has some images there is another that I can't find the website of at the moment but do have the image that is 1 disk file name is 3c509-aviator.img or 3c509-aviator.zip I can email this to you if you want it ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hill" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 11:35 AM Subject: LRP for notebook ? > Hi, > > I'm trying to get LRP to run on an old IBM ThinkPad, which has 3 PCMCIA slots. > > One of the slots is taken up with a 248MB "Harddrive", the other 2 are used > for a Lucent 802.11b wireless ethernet card, and the other for a PCMCIA > 10BASE-T ethernet card. > > (I actually have 2 different 10BASE-T cards to choose from... an IBM > EtherJet PCMCIA card, which I think needs the cs89x0.o module, and an > "IC-CARD+" el-cheapo card, which needs the pcnet_cs.o module). > > I've managed to get different LRP images to either get the wireless side > running, or to at least recognise the ethernet card, but haven't managed to > do both at the same time yet... > > > Does anyone have, or know of, a working LRP image that can be used to turn > an old laptop / notebook into a simple wireless-to-wired ethernet router? > (No firewalling needed in this particular case). > > Any suggestions most welcome! > > > Thanks, > > > > Chris > Perth, Western Australia > > From sjh@svana.org Mon Aug 13 23:57:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B0D34BCB for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from algol.anu.edu.au (shiva.marian) [150.203.164.12] by svana.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15WYFs-0001a5-00; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 17:04:48 +1000 Received: from sjh by shiva.marian with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15WYC0-0003MK-00 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 17:00:48 +1000 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 17:00:48 +1000 From: Steven Hanley To: Wireless WAN List Subject: netgear cards? Message-ID: <20010814170048.A12903@shiva.marian> Reply-To: Steven Hanley Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Some Random Email Client Organization: much sought in this hectic world Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ All Earlier on this list someone noticed netgear 802.11b netgear equipment being sold at harveynorman for somewhat inflated prices. I notice Cougar now has that same hardware available for a much better price. However I am unable to find mention on this list or on http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux of netgear. I am wondering if anyone knows if this stuff works in linux? Is it something nice like simply a rebadged Cisco Aironet card or Lucent Orinoco card? Also, David, if you are reading this, have you done any work at getting the DWL 650 to work? (just curious, if so I can upgrade to a recent 2.4 kernel (like 2.4.8) otherwise I can take a look myself (I am guessing it just initialises a little bit differently to the currently supoorted caards and will work like a normal Prism II otherwise.) See You Steve -- sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh Look Up In The Sky Is it a bird? No Is it a plane No Is it a small blue banana? Yes From david@gibson.dropbear.id.au Tue Aug 14 01:00:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from localhost (sydney2.au.ibm.com [202.135.142.197]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8184E82 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 00:18:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dgibson by localhost with local (Exim 3.31 #1 (Debian)) id 15WYX3-00062J-00 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 17:22:33 +1000 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 17:22:33 +1000 From: David Gibson To: Wireless WAN List Subject: Re: netgear cards? Message-ID: <20010814172233.F5199@zax> Mail-Followup-To: Wireless WAN List References: <20010814170048.A12903@shiva.marian> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010814170048.A12903@shiva.marian> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 05:00:48PM +1000, Steven Hanley wrote: > All > > Earlier on this list someone noticed netgear 802.11b netgear equipment being > sold at harveynorman for somewhat inflated prices. I notice Cougar now has > that same hardware available for a much better price. > > However I am unable to find mention on this list or on > http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux of netgear. I am > wondering if anyone knows if this stuff works in linux? Is it something nice > like simply a rebadged Cisco Aironet card or Lucent Orinoco card? No idea, but I'd like to hear if you find out. > Also, David, if you are reading this, have you done any work at getting the > DWL 650 to work? (just curious, if so I can upgrade to a recent 2.4 kernel > (like 2.4.8) otherwise I can take a look myself (I am guessing it just > initialises a little bit differently to the currently supoorted caards and > will work like a normal Prism II otherwise.) As far as I know there isn't anything special about the DWL-650 compared to other Prism cards. The troubles Anthony was having were due to the changes in v0.08 firmware which is now handled by a patch from William Waghorn. Note that several things (including WEP) are not supported on any of the Prism II cards. -- David Gibson | Microsoft: Making the easy things hard david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | and the hard things buggy http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From sjh@svana.org Tue Aug 14 02:44:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6D6597B for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 02:06:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from algol.anu.edu.au (shiva.marian) [150.203.164.12] by svana.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15WaIA-0001gf-00; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:15:18 +1000 Received: from sjh by shiva.marian with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15WaEH-0005UX-00 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:11:17 +1000 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:11:17 +1000 From: Steven Hanley To: Wireless WAN List Subject: Re: netgear cards? Message-ID: <20010814191117.B21083@shiva.marian> Reply-To: Steven Hanley References: <20010814170048.A12903@shiva.marian> <20010814172233.F5199@zax> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: much sought in this hectic world Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 05:22:33PM +1000, David Gibson wrote: > > Earlier on this list someone noticed netgear 802.11b netgear equipment being > > sold at harveynorman for somewhat inflated prices. I notice Cougar now has > > that same hardware available for a much better price. > > > > However I am unable to find mention on this list or on > > http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux of netgear. I am > > wondering if anyone knows if this stuff works in linux? Is it something nice > > like simply a rebadged Cisco Aironet card or Lucent Orinoco card? > > No idea, but I'd like to hear if you find out. well Bob wants to buy a few more wireless cards for the department. cougar are generally friendly towards the department so it seems good if they are supported. who knows we may find out. > > Also, David, if you are reading this, have you done any work at getting the > > DWL 650 to work? (just curious, if so I can upgrade to a recent 2.4 kernel > > (like 2.4.8) otherwise I can take a look myself (I am guessing it just > > initialises a little bit differently to the currently supoorted caards and > > will work like a normal Prism II otherwise.) > > As far as I know there isn't anything special about the DWL-650 > compared to other Prism cards. The troubles Anthony was having were > due to the changes in v0.08 firmware which is now handled by a patch > from William Waghorn. Note that several things (including WEP) are > not supported on any of the Prism II cards. well I am using the card with the dwl 500 pci<->pcmcia adapter, it works in linux, whenever I try your driver it doesnt detect the card at all. (simple modprobe) the wvlan_cs from pcmcia-cs sort of works after a fashion. I have not tried to get either driver to run in the last two months. I will try your driver again tonight. If it doesnt work I will look at the wvlan_cs code and see why it can detect the DWL cards and not yours. See You Steve -- sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh Look Up In The Sky Is it a bird? No Is it a plane No Is it a small blue banana? Yes From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Tue Aug 14 11:57:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2004F55 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:48:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id LAA15129; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:52:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id LAA06928; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:52:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15WjIs-0002CE-00; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:52:38 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:52:38 -0700 To: Steven Hanley , Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re : netgear cards? Message-ID: <20010814115238.E8308@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Steven Hanley wrote : > However I am unable to find mention on this list or on > http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux of netgear. I am > wondering if anyone knows if this stuff works in linux? Is it something nice > like simply a rebadged Cisco Aironet card or Lucent Orinoco card? It's much more likely to be a PrismII clone. It look exactly like the SMC/Addtron card, and not at all like a Orinoco or Aironet (which are very distinctive). By the way, I don't know why people spend time looking for new 802.11 cards when there are some many cheap 802.11 cards already supported under Linux. Yes, I know that PrismII firmwares can be problematic, but I guess you get what you pay for ;-) > Also, David, if you are reading this, have you done any work at getting the > DWL 650 to work? The DWL 650 is working with the Orinoco driver as good as a PrismII card can work (i.e. multicast not supported, encryption not supported except for the very latest firmware, ibss working only with the very latest driver patch, ...). This was the PrismII card I had when I added PrismII support in the driver. Good luck... Jean From sjh@svana.org Tue Aug 14 16:11:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096994F11 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 16:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from algol.anu.edu.au (shiva.marian) [150.203.164.12] by svana.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15WnU0-0002Iz-00; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:20:24 +1000 Received: from sjh by shiva.marian with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15WnQ5-0006sc-00 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:16:21 +1000 Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:16:21 +1000 From: Steven Hanley To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: Re : netgear cards? Message-ID: <20010815091621.B26404@shiva.marian> Reply-To: Steven Hanley References: <20010814115238.E8308@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010814115238.E8308@bougret.hpl.hp.com>; from jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com on Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 11:52:38AM -0700 User-Agent: Some Random Email Client Organization: much sought in this hectic world Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 11:52:38AM -0700, Jean Tourrilhes wrote: > Steven Hanley wrote : > > However I am unable to find mention on this list or on > > http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux of netgear. I am > > wondering if anyone knows if this stuff works in linux? Is it something nice > > like simply a rebadged Cisco Aironet card or Lucent Orinoco card? > > It's much more likely to be a PrismII clone. It look exactly > like the SMC/Addtron card, and not at all like a Orinoco or Aironet > (which are very distinctive). > By the way, I don't know why people spend time looking for new > 802.11 cards when there are some many cheap 802.11 cards already > supported under Linux. Yes, I know that PrismII firmwares can be > problematic, but I guess you get what you pay for ;-) I don't know about the situation in the US, however here I always have a hell of a time finding places that sell wireless equipment. I dont know of any place you can wander into and buy a bunch of cisco or orinoco cards off the shelf in this city (Canberra) or in Sydney. Right now the CS department at ANU is looking to buy more wireless equipment as we finally have point to point VPN stuff in place. I have sent an email or two out to suppliers of cisco and lucent equipment here in Canberra (as found on the respective websites) asking for pricing details. There definitely isnt a catalogue oonline with prices for this stuff anywhere or similar available. Also as mentioned Cougar are selling the netgear cards, this is a shop the department gets on well with, we got all 96 nodes for the beowulf here from them. (though of course we dont just buy from them automatically, if they have what we want for the best price yada yada yada) In this case it was a, oh look a supplier of wireless equipment in Canberra with prices of said equipment listed publically. See You Steve -- sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh Look Up In The Sky Is it a bird? No Is it a plane No Is it a small blue banana? Yes From rickl@soundadvice.nobbys.net.au Tue Aug 14 16:20:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from passat.nobbys.net.au (passat.nobbys.net.au [202.9.225.194]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1AC84F11 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 16:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kaputar.soundadvice.nobbys.net.au (kaputar.soundadvice.nobbys.net.au [202.9.243.60]) by passat.nobbys.net.au (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f7ENOUx08101; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:24:31 +1000 Received: from server (unknown [192.168.50.2]) by kaputar.soundadvice.nobbys.net.au (Postfix) with SMTP id AC6A41CB30D; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:24:34 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <000901c12518$46ed8aa0$0232a8c0@sad.com.au> From: "Richard Luckhurst" To: "Steven Hanley" Cc: References: <20010814115238.E8308@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <20010815091621.B26404@shiva.marian> Subject: Re: Re : netgear cards? Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:24:33 +1000 Organization: Sound Advice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hi List > I don't know about the situation in the US, however here I always have a hell > of a time finding places that sell wireless equipment. I dont know of any > place you can wander into and buy a bunch of cisco or orinoco cards off the > shelf in this city (Canberra) or in Sydney. Right now the CS department at ANU > is looking to buy more wireless equipment as we finally have point to point > VPN stuff in place. I have sent an email or two out to suppliers of cisco and > lucent equipment here in Canberra (as found on the respective websites) asking > for pricing details. There definitely isnt a catalogue oonline with prices for > this stuff anywhere or similar available. > > Orinoco is easy to get in Sydney. Contact the main distributor, Integrity Data Systems, at North Ryde. They are the largest reseller of the entire range, along with other brands in Australia. They can be reached at sales@integritydata.com.au regards Richard From r.scholten@physics.unimelb.edu.au Tue Aug 14 16:52:23 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from optics.ph.unimelb.edu.au (optics.ph.unimelb.edu.au [128.250.51.189]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D52744FCD for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 16:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (scholten@localhost) by optics.ph.unimelb.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA28788; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:56:10 +1000 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: optics.ph.unimelb.edu.au: scholten owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:56:10 +1000 (EST) From: Robert Scholten X-Sender: scholten@optics.ph.unimelb.edu.au Reply-To: Robert Scholten To: Richard Luckhurst Cc: Steven Hanley , wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Re : netgear cards? In-Reply-To: <000901c12518$46ed8aa0$0232a8c0@sad.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Integrity will indeed sell Lucent, but their _wholesale_ prices are higher than retail. I bought some Orinoco Silver from www.megalink.com.au at $275 each plus GST, and would also strongly recommend www.x.net.au for Lucent and Compaq cards. Both suppliers have been excellent to deal with. For Cisco, ComTech Communications in Melbourne (Peter Lew, telL +61 (3) 9626 0770) have excellent prices for educational customers, and again, excellent to deal with. On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Richard Luckhurst wrote: > Hi List > > > I don't know about the situation in the US, however here I always have a > hell > > of a time finding places that sell wireless equipment. I dont know of any > > place you can wander into and buy a bunch of cisco or orinoco cards off > the > > shelf in this city (Canberra) or in Sydney. Right now the CS department at > ANU > > is looking to buy more wireless equipment as we finally have point to > point > > VPN stuff in place. I have sent an email or two out to suppliers of cisco > and > > lucent equipment here in Canberra (as found on the respective websites) > asking > > for pricing details. There definitely isnt a catalogue oonline with prices > for > > this stuff anywhere or similar available. > > > > > > Orinoco is easy to get in Sydney. Contact the main distributor, Integrity > Data Systems, > at North Ryde. They are the largest reseller of the entire range, along with > other brands > in Australia. They can be reached at sales@integritydata.com.au > > regards > > Richard > > > -- Robert Scholten Tel: +61 3 8344 5457 Mob: 0412 834 196 School of Physics Fax: +61 3 9347 4783 University of Melbourne email: r.scholten@physics.unimelb.edu.au Victoria 3010 AUSTRALIA http://www.ph.unimelb.edu.au/~scholten From Alfred.Reynolds@dsto.defence.gov.au Tue Aug 14 17:00:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3704210 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 17:00:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f7F043806410 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:34:03 +0930 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:32:20 +0930 Received: from salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au (salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.9]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id JAA21952 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:28:06 +0930 (CST) Received: from fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au ([144.97.171.1]) by salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id QFDD5V7X; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:28:03 +0930 Received: by fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:54:02 +1000 Message-ID: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C022AF33@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> From: "Reynolds, Alfred" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: MAC layer programming Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:54:01 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Well, to answer my own question the cards I found were based on the "Prism2" chipset, in particular the WL100 from compaq. I can put these cards into "adhoc" mode and play around with all sorts of lovely things using the drivers from Jouni Malinen (http://194.241.248.126/Prism2). This driver implements a access point (base station) so you could use these drivers and a linux box in place of a normal (expensive) basestation :) Now off to the MAC layer research ;) > -----Original Message----- > From: Reynolds, Alfred [mailto:Alfred.Reynolds@dsto.defence.gov.au] > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 9:14 AM > To: wireless@lists.samba.org > Subject: MAC layer programming > > > I want to do some MAC (link layer) research with wireless > networks. I have > looked at the prismII chipset devices but you cannot disable > the MAC layer > chips in the card (or so I have been told). Does anyone have > any advice as > to devices I could use to do this MAC layer research? (I am > looking into > issues such as store-and-forward and routing at the MAC layer > in highly > agile networks). > > Thanks, > Alfred > From chak@cse.unsw.edu.au Tue Aug 14 17:23:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from localhost.localdomain (fatc.serg.cse.unsw.EDU.AU [129.94.172.152]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42DBD5002 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 17:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from enki.cse.unsw.edu.au (enki-wireless [129.94.233.99]) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f7F0Qhp19359; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 10:26:43 +1000 Received: from localhost (enki [127.0.0.1]) by enki.cse.unsw.edu.au (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f7F0Ok808784; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 10:24:46 +1000 To: sjh@wibble.net, sjh@svana.org Cc: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: netgear cards? In-Reply-To: <20010814191117.B21083@shiva.marian> References: <20010814170048.A12903@shiva.marian> <20010814172233.F5199@zax> <20010814191117.B21083@shiva.marian> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.2 on XEmacs 21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) X-URL: http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~chak/ X-fingerprint: 0B31 CF2B C838 C7F5 20FC 06E3 7DE5 9217 89D2 DBCC X-Disclaimer: http://www.eng.unsw.edu.au/emaildis.htm Reply-To: chak@cse.unsw.edu.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010815102446C.chak@cse.unsw.edu.au> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 10:24:46 +1000 From: "Manuel M. T. Chakravarty" X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 62 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Steven Hanley wrote, > On Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 05:22:33PM +1000, David Gibson wrote: > > > Earlier on this list someone noticed netgear 802.11b netgear equipment being > > > Also, David, if you are reading this, have you done any work at getting the > > > DWL 650 to work? (just curious, if so I can upgrade to a recent 2.4 kernel > > > (like 2.4.8) otherwise I can take a look myself (I am guessing it just > > > initialises a little bit differently to the currently supoorted caards and > > > will work like a normal Prism II otherwise.) > > > > As far as I know there isn't anything special about the DWL-650 > > compared to other Prism cards. The troubles Anthony was having were > > due to the changes in v0.08 firmware which is now handled by a patch > > from William Waghorn. Note that several things (including WEP) are > > not supported on any of the Prism II cards. > > well I am using the card with the dwl 500 pci<->pcmcia adapter, it works in > linux, whenever I try your driver it doesnt detect the card at all. (simple > modprobe) the wvlan_cs from pcmcia-cs sort of works after a fashion. I have > not tried to get either driver to run in the last two months. I will try your > driver again tonight. If it doesnt work I will look at the wvlan_cs code and > see why it can detect the DWL cards and not yours. I am using the same card also with the DWL-500 pci<->pcmcia adapter and it works fine after some help from Anthony Wesley. I am now using the following setup: * Firmware version 8c2 for the DWL-650 and flash it into the card (requires to have a Windoze box). You can get the firmware at http://support.dlink.com/products/view.asp?productid=DWL-650 * Linux kernel 2.4.7 (Beware, this will break suspend/resume for any eepro100 NIC that you have. I think there is a fix for that in 2.4.8-ac3, but I didn't try it). * The driver version 0.06d from http://ozlabs.org/people/dgibson/dldwd/ The newer version 0.06e didn't compile for me, but you have to take the orinoco.h file from 0.06e, because that is missing in 0.06d. * If you are using a kernel version higher than 2.4.5, you need to change the setting of MODULE_DIR in the Makefile to MODULE_DIR = /lib/modules/$(KERNEL_VERSION)/kernel/drivers/net/wireless With this setup, the DWL-650 even works in IBSS (ad-hoc mode) in conjunction with a Lucent Orinoco. Cheers, Manuel PS: I got the impression that the card is somewhat sensitive to the order in which you set parameters with iwconfig (and can get into a state where you have to eject/insert before it will work again), but I am seeing similar things with the Orinoco card in IBSS. From Alfred.Reynolds@dsto.defence.gov.au Tue Aug 14 17:40:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A2B416C for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 17:40:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f7F0hq809272 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 10:13:52 +0930 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 10:12:14 +0930 Received: from salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au (salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.9]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id KAA08875 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 10:09:01 +0930 (CST) Received: from fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au ([144.97.171.1]) by salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id QFDD5W9Z; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 10:08:58 +0930 Received: by fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 10:34:57 +1000 Message-ID: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C022AF38@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> From: "Reynolds, Alfred" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: WL110 Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 10:34:56 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Has anyone got the WL110 from Compaq working? What chipset does it run? Does it work in ad-hoc mode? Thanks :) Alfred From adam@box3n.gumbynet.org Tue Aug 14 18:06:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from box3n.gumbynet.org (box3n.gumbynet.org [203.37.96.52]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1FA15016 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 18:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (adam@localhost) by box3n.gumbynet.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id LAA05955; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:08:31 +1000 Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:08:31 +1000 (EST) From: Adam To: "Reynolds, Alfred" Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: WL110 In-Reply-To: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C022AF38@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ From memory it is the newer of the compaq's using the lucent chipset as apposed to the older ones which used proximII's 100 - proxim|pcmcia adaptors 110 - lucent| 200 - proxim w/pci 210 - lucent w/pci On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Reynolds, Alfred wrote: > Has anyone got the WL110 from Compaq working? What chipset does it run? Does > it work in ad-hoc mode? > > Thanks :) > > Alfred > From david@gibson.dropbear.id.au Tue Aug 14 20:03:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from localhost (sydney4.au.ibm.com [202.135.142.205]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 284664A6B for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dgibson by localhost with local (Exim 3.31 #1 (Debian)) id 15WqxR-0005B0-00 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:03:01 +1000 Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:03:01 +1000 From: David Gibson To: Wireless WAN List Subject: Re: netgear cards? Message-ID: <20010815130300.A31439@zax> Mail-Followup-To: Wireless WAN List References: <20010814170048.A12903@shiva.marian> <20010814172233.F5199@zax> <20010814191117.B21083@shiva.marian> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010814191117.B21083@shiva.marian> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 07:11:17PM +1000, Steven Hanley wrote: > On Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 05:22:33PM +1000, David Gibson wrote: > > As far as I know there isn't anything special about the DWL-650 > > compared to other Prism cards. The troubles Anthony was having were > > due to the changes in v0.08 firmware which is now handled by a patch > > from William Waghorn. Note that several things (including WEP) are > > not supported on any of the Prism II cards. > > well I am using the card with the dwl 500 pci<->pcmcia adapter, it works in > linux, whenever I try your driver it doesnt detect the card at all. (simple > modprobe) the wvlan_cs from pcmcia-cs sort of works after a fashion. I have > not tried to get either driver to run in the last two months. I will try your > driver again tonight. If it doesnt work I will look at the wvlan_cs code and > see why it can detect the DWL cards and not yours. If you're just modprobe-ing the driver of course it won't detect anything. PCMCIA drivers don't probe for the hardware themselves - instead they just register and are then bound to the device by the PCMCIA subsystem. So unless you use the PCMCIA config files to tell cardmgr to use the orinoco_cs driver for your DWL-650, the driver will never be instantiated. -- David Gibson | Microsoft: Making the easy things hard david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | and the hard things buggy http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From sjh@svana.org Tue Aug 14 22:49:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A679D45B0 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 22:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from okda.anu.edu.au (shiva.marian) [150.203.160.23] by svana.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15Wth1-0002Xg-00; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 15:58:15 +1000 Received: from sjh by shiva.marian with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15Wtd2-00076t-00 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 15:54:08 +1000 Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 15:54:08 +1000 From: Steven Hanley To: Wireless WAN List Subject: Re: netgear cards? Message-ID: <20010815155408.A27321@shiva.marian> Reply-To: Steven Hanley References: <20010814170048.A12903@shiva.marian> <20010814172233.F5199@zax> <20010814191117.B21083@shiva.marian> <20010815130300.A31439@zax> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010815130300.A31439@zax>; from david@gibson.dropbear.id.au on Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 01:03:01PM +1000 User-Agent: Some Random Email Client Organization: much sought in this hectic world Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 01:03:01PM +1000, David Gibson wrote: > If you're just modprobe-ing the driver of course it won't detect > anything. PCMCIA drivers don't probe for the hardware themselves - > instead they just register and are then bound to the device by the > PCMCIA subsystem. So unless you use the PCMCIA config files to tell > cardmgr to use the orinoco_cs driver for your DWL-650, the driver will > never be instantiated. oops, I was sort of assuming it would work like my airport card does in the laptop, however I forgot the airport card is initialised completely independantly of any pcmcia subsystems. Will try more with the dwl card when I get home tonight. :) See You Steve -- sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh Look Up In The Sky Is it a bird? No Is it a plane No Is it a small blue banana? Yes From david_j_findlay@yahoo.com.au Wed Aug 15 01:23:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailin3.email.bigpond.com (juicer24.bigpond.com [139.134.6.34]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E653D420E for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 01:23:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ADSL-Server.davsoft.com.au ([144.135.24.81]) by mailin3.email.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GI3P3I00.4OA for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 18:33:18 +1000 Received: from 144.137.129.175 ([144.137.129.175]) by bwmam05.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9g 8335/702786); 15 Aug 2001 18:33:13 Received: from there (david@workshop [192.168.0.2]) by ADSL-Server.davsoft.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with SMTP id SAA08485 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 18:27:12 +1000 Message-Id: <200108150827.SAA08485@ADSL-Server.davsoft.com.au> X-Authentication-Warning: ADSL-Server.davsoft.com.au: Host david@workshop [192.168.0.2] claimed to be there Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: David Findlay Organization: Davsoft To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: IPV6 and public key encyrption Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 18:27:13 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ I was just wondering about all this stuff. 1. Are you guys planning on getting IPv6 address ranges and using these so the addresses are fully routable allowing links via internet tunnels between different wireless nets? 2. Maybe a custom Data Link layer protocol that uses public key encryption to secure data transfer between nodes? 3. Is there a network forming in Brisbane area? And will it have access to a repeater at a very high location, like Mt Cootha or something like that? Thanks, BTW I am not on the list, so please CC any replies to me. David From matthew@pick.ucam.org Wed Aug 15 01:36:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from chiark.greenend.org.uk (chiark.greenend.org.uk [195.224.76.132]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930865043 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 01:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (ming.empire.pick.ucam.org) [172.16.22.1] (mail) by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #2) id 15WwDe-0005di-00 (Debian); Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:40:06 +0100 Received: from matthew by ming.empire.pick.ucam.org with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 15WwDc-0007p1-00; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:40:04 +0100 From: Matthew Vernon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15226.13668.573782.441406@ming.empire.pick.ucam.org> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:40:04 +0100 (BST) To: David Findlay Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: IPV6 and public key encyrption In-Reply-To: <200108150827.SAA08485@ADSL-Server.davsoft.com.au> References: <200108150827.SAA08485@ADSL-Server.davsoft.com.au> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 9) "Canyonlands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ David Findlay writes: > 2. Maybe a custom Data Link layer protocol that uses public key > encryption to > secure data transfer between nodes? We use userv ipif to create VPN tunnels between machines on wireless and/or cable modems. Matthew -- "At least you know where you are with Microsoft." "True. I just wish I'd brought a paddle." http://www.debian.org From jalovick@doof.org Wed Aug 15 04:08:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from gerald.doof.org (gateway.doof.org [203.29.177.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E13B64A82 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 04:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gerald.doof.org (IDENT:jalovick@gerald.doof.org [203.0.179.1]) by gerald.doof.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA29549; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 20:40:56 +0930 Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 20:40:55 +0930 (CST) From: Jamie Lovick To: Steven Hanley Cc: Wireless WAN List Subject: Re: netgear cards? In-Reply-To: <20010815155408.A27321@shiva.marian> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Steven Hanley wrote: > On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 01:03:01PM +1000, David Gibson wrote: > > If you're just modprobe-ing the driver of course it won't detect > > anything. PCMCIA drivers don't probe for the hardware themselves - > > instead they just register and are then bound to the device by the > > PCMCIA subsystem. So unless you use the PCMCIA config files to tell > > cardmgr to use the orinoco_cs driver for your DWL-650, the driver will > > never be instantiated. > > oops, I was sort of assuming it would work like my airport card does > in the laptop, however I forgot the airport card is initialised > completely independantly of any pcmcia subsystems. Will try more with > the dwl card when I get home tonight. :) This has probably been asked, but wxill the airport cards work under Linux on a PC notebook ? Regards Jamie -- Jamie Lovick <-> IT Consultant <-> +614 1479 1681 Hobby : Doof.org -> jalovick@doof.org Work : Clemenger Communications Ltd -> jamie.lovick@clemenger.com.au Director: Drastic Solutions Pty Ltd -> jalovick@drasticsolutions.com.au From steedman@bigpond.net.au Wed Aug 15 04:23:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from mailin5.bigpond.com (juicer02.bigpond.com [139.134.6.78]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4CF85090 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 04:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from woo ([139.134.4.56]) by mailin5.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GI3XF700.C7A for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:33:07 +1000 Received: from CPE-144-132-139-49.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([144.132.139.49]) by mail3.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9g 5/1050038); 15 Aug 2001 21:28:00 Message-ID: <004a01c1257d$446194b0$0100a8c0@woo> From: "Glen Steedman" To: Subject: Mac airport card Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:27:28 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ From what I can tell, it's a Orinoco Wireless Silver PCMCIA card with out the antenna attached. Will these cards be able to talk to Webgear Aviator that use's FH rather then DS to talk to each other, like do these cards have both modes as 802.11b was released later ? or bucks to no chance of that happening ? Cheers. From J.P.Knight@lboro.ac.uk Wed Aug 15 05:23:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from mailer1.lut.ac.uk (mailer1.lut.ac.uk [158.125.1.202]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5038E50C4 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 05:23:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jon (helo=localhost) by mailer1.lut.ac.uk with local-smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 15WzlT-00043H-00; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:27:15 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:27:14 +0100 (BST) From: Jon Knight X-Sender: jon@mailer1 To: Glen Steedman Cc: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: Mac airport card In-Reply-To: <004a01c1257d$446194b0$0100a8c0@woo> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Lboro-Filtered: mailer1.lut.ac.uk, Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:27:15 +0100 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Glen Steedman wrote: > Will these cards be able to talk to Webgear Aviator that use's FH rather > then DS to talk to each other, like do these cards have both modes as > 802.11b was released later ? Most DS mode cards can't talk to FH nodes. Whilst the original standard allowed for both DS and FH (plus the IR modes) most (if not all) vendors picked one or the other. To do both your card would need to have two completely different radio subsystems. Tatty bye, Jim'll From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Wed Aug 15 11:05:32 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3827D4B7E for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:05:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id LAA23770; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:09:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id LAA26350; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15X56U-0002Qe-00; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:09:18 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:09:18 -0700 To: Jamie Lovick , Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re : Airport cards (was : netgear cards?) Message-ID: <20010815110918.B9259@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Jamie Lovick wrote : > This has probably been asked, but wxill the airport cards work under Linux > on a PC notebook ? Tsk... You didn't read the Howto, otherwise you would not ask this question. By the way, it has just been updated : http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/ Have fun... Jean From sjh@svana.org Wed Aug 15 16:02:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D2745325 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 16:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from okda.anu.edu.au (shiva.marian) [150.203.160.23] by svana.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15X9ok-0004A3-00; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 09:11:18 +1000 Received: from sjh by shiva.marian with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15X9kb-0007LL-00 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 09:07:01 +1000 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 09:07:00 +1000 From: Steven Hanley To: Wireless WAN List Subject: Re: netgear cards? Message-ID: <20010816090700.A28213@shiva.marian> Reply-To: Steven Hanley References: <20010815155408.A27321@shiva.marian> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from jalovick@doof.org on Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 08:40:55PM +0930 Organization: much sought in this hectic world Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 08:40:55PM +0930, Jamie Lovick wrote: > This has probably been asked, but wxill the airport cards work under Linux > on a PC notebook ? also in reply to glen steedman no the airport card is alas not just a pcmcia card. it looks like one, however the way to make it work has nothing to do with pcmcia, you dont even need pcmcia installed on a box to use the airport card. However what this all means is that it only works inside an apple with an airport slot (pretty much any new mac bought in the past year or so). It would be nice as they are only $200 (or less) and work the same as an orinoco (which is what they are internally). They dont however plug into pcmcia slots. See You Steve -- sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh Look Up In The Sky Is it a bird? No Is it a plane No Is it a small blue banana? Yes From M.Gleeson@mailbox.gu.edu.au Wed Aug 15 17:22:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailhost.gu.edu.au (kraken.itc.gu.edu.au [132.234.250.31]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B2F44557 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:22:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc064351 (pc064348.ins.gu.edu.au [132.234.148.154]) by mailhost.gu.edu.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f7G0QL416413; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 10:26:21 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20010816102201.03053dc0@kraken.itc.gu.edu.au> X-Sender: s397681@kraken.itc.gu.edu.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 10:25:54 +1000 To: David Findlay , wireless@lists.samba.org From: Matt Gleeson Subject: Re: IPV6 and public key encyrption In-Reply-To: <200108150827.SAA08485@ADSL-Server.davsoft.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ >3. Is there a network forming in Brisbane area? And will it have access to a >repeater at a very high location, like Mt Cootha or something like that? There is a wireless network group forming in Brisbane, with the intention of creating a metropolitan area wireless network. The URL for the effort is here: http://www.brismesh.org There you can find a node database of people who have shown interest and their current operational status. Regards, -Matt. From snoop9@hushmail.com Thu Aug 16 04:34:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from smtp1.hushmail.com (smtp1.hushmail.com [64.40.111.31]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 670DF5214 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 04:34:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailserver1b.hushmail.com (mailserver1.hushmail.com [64.40.111.28]) by smtp1.hushmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A97C1372B; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 04:16:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by mailserver1b.hushmail.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7GBIMB40799; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 04:18:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from snoop9@hushmail.com) Message-Id: <200108161118.f7GBIMB40799@mailserver1b.hushmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain To: wireless@lists.bawug.org Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org subject: RG 1000 / IPSec From: snoop9@hushmail.com date: Thu Aug 16 06:18:21 CDT 2001 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Fall Version (7.2) image at www.wavelan.com claims that it auto enables IPSec as the transport when NAT is enabled. Has anyone tried this? I am a little confused about how they claim to do this. When NATing the packet is disassembled and then reassebled. If they try this on an IPSec packet, will it not fail checksum tag? Thanks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Hush 2.0 wlsEARECABsFAjt7q/4UHHNub29wOUBodXNobWFpbC5jb20ACgkQcINCEeyS3lwZEACe Phh0adWueshfeqM7NlmIj7cyKnYAoJdfoeqg71jB0vtUvCnFhRTdImai =eEUV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Free, secure Web-based email, now OpenPGP compliant - www.hushmail.com From vortex@free2air.net Thu Aug 16 04:53:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from tele2.inweb.co.uk (tele-2.inweb.net.uk [212.38.64.10]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8C954B1 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 04:53:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from boojum.free2air.net ([213.210.24.29]) by tele2.inweb.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA15131; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 11:56:49 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Adam Burns Reply-To: vortex@free2air.net Organization: http://www.free2air.org To: snoop9@hushmail.com Subject: Re: [BAWUG] RG 1000 / IPSec Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 12:54:52 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <200108161118.f7GBIMB40799@mailserver1b.hushmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200108161118.f7GBIMB40799@mailserver1b.hushmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0108161254520C.02085@boojum.free2air.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ The major problem with IPsec & NAT'ing is IKE. IPsec ESP can be NAT'ed (b= ut=20 don't you be trying AH coz it ain't gonna work!) because the data integri= ty=20 is performed on the encapsulated packet, not the header. With many-to-one port translation style NAT'ing, port 500 to port 500=20 communications get mangled. 'Fudged' Internal UDP state tables can fix th= is. hope this helps, =2Evortex On Wednesday 31 December 1969 07:00 pm, snoop9@hushmail.com wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Fall Version (7.2) image at www.wavelan.com > claims that it auto enables IPSec as the > transport when NAT is enabled. > > Has anyone tried this? I am a little confused > about how they claim to do this. When NATing > the packet is disassembled and then reassebled. > If they try this on an IPSec packet, will it > not fail checksum tag? > > Thanks > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: Hush 2.0 > > wlsEARECABsFAjt7q/4UHHNub29wOUBodXNobWFpbC5jb20ACgkQcINCEeyS3lwZEACe > Phh0adWueshfeqM7NlmIj7cyKnYAoJdfoeqg71jB0vtUvCnFhRTdImai > =3DeEUV > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Free, secure Web-based email, now OpenPGP compliant - www.hushmail.com > > -- > general wireless list, a bawug thing > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless From J.P.Knight@lboro.ac.uk Thu Aug 16 05:46:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailer1.lut.ac.uk (mailer1.lut.ac.uk [158.125.1.202]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 803645506 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 05:46:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jon (helo=localhost) by mailer1.lut.ac.uk with local-smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 15XMb8-0003dx-00; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 13:50:06 +0100 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 13:50:06 +0100 (BST) From: Jon Knight X-Sender: jon@mailer1 To: snoop9@hushmail.com Cc: wireless@lists.bawug.org, wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: RG 1000 / IPSec In-Reply-To: <200108161118.f7GBIMB40799@mailserver1b.hushmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Lboro-Filtered: mailer1.lut.ac.uk, Thu, 16 Aug 2001 13:50:06 +0100 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Thu, 16 Aug -1 snoop9@hushmail.com wrote: > Fall Version (7.2) image at www.wavelan.com > claims that it auto enables IPSec as the > transport when NAT is enabled. > > Has anyone tried this? I am a little confused > about how they claim to do this. When NATing > the packet is disassembled and then reassebled. > If they try this on an IPSec packet, will it > not fail checksum tag? Depends on the IPSec type in use. One type checksums the payload of the packet, the other checksums the whole packet. You can NAT the former but not the latter. See the FreeSWAN docs at for all the grizzly details. Tatty bye, Jim'll From david@gibson.dropbear.id.au Thu Aug 16 18:34:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from localhost (unknown [144.137.82.99]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337E14250 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 18:34:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dgibson by localhost with local (Exim 3.31 #1 (Debian)) id 15XYCl-0000nl-00 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 11:13:43 +1000 Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 11:13:43 +1000 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: BAP errors Message-ID: <20010817111343.H2856@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ I've added some information about the BAP errors that many people get to the orinoco README: http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson/dldwd/README.orinoco -- David Gibson | Microsoft: Making the easy things hard david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | and the hard things buggy http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From bhards@bigpond.net.au Fri Aug 17 04:00:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from mailin9.bigpond.com (juicer34.bigpond.com [139.134.6.86]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A30724E7E for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 04:00:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bigpond.net.au ([144.135.24.75]) by mailin9.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GI7LPV00.4LW; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 21:10:43 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-178-48.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.178.48]) by bwmam03.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9g 8323/782505); 17 Aug 2001 21:10:43 Message-ID: <3B7CFA59.29F84000@bigpond.net.au> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 21:04:57 +1000 From: Brad Hards X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.6-ac2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, wireless@samba.org, whitewlf@wwc.com, andersk@engineer.com, bear@datasys.org Cc: bvermeul@devel.blackstar.nl Subject: Testing release of USB wireless firmware downloader Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ As some of you may know, Bas Vermeulen and I are working on a driver for the AT76C503A MAC, used by the D-Link DWL-120 and some other USB 802.11 adapters. We have a test release of the (user space) firmware downloader available, for those that are interested in seeing how it is going. I have tested it on the DWL-120, but not on any other device. I think it should work on other devices based on the same MAC. The part that is important in the descriptor is the last line, with the Interface class of 0xfe and the Subclass of 0x01, which is the DFU specification: T: Bus=01 Lev=03 Prnt=08 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#= 13 Spd=12 MxCh= 0 D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=fe(app. ) Sub=01 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=03eb ProdID=7603 Rev= 1.00 C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=80 MxPwr=500mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 0 Cls=fe(app. ) Sub=01 Prot=00 Driver=(none) If you have such a device, and willing to do some testing, please download the driver from CVS (http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=27123 provides directions on how to download). You will also need to have libusb (http://libusb.sourceforge.net) installed, and the rom images which you can trivially extract from the windows drivers - a link is given in the README. I would appreciate anyone who tries this to let me know, whether it worked or not, especially which devices you tried it with, and whether it seems to run to completion. Please note that the kernel space driver isn't anything like completed yet, and the user space loader is just a precusor to a real driver. We will get there eventually :-) Brad From zacca@jazi.net Sat Aug 18 08:49:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from syncopation-01.iinet.net.au (syncopation-01.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.17]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7EDC84600 for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 08:49:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 9915 invoked by uid 666); 18 Aug 2001 15:52:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO UNIMATRIX1) (203.59.128.32) by 0 with SMTP; 18 Aug 2001 15:52:59 -0000 From: "Zaccary Charlesworth" To: Subject: Advice Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 23:52:50 +0800 Message-ID: <000401c127fd$da6f4920$2300a8c0@UNIMATRIX1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C12840.E8928920" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2505.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C12840.E8928920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Howdy, Been reading the archived and subscribed for a while, this is an amazing resource of information, quite impressive! :) I'm wanting to establish a wavelink with someone who is roughly 4km's away (5 max). Line of Sight is reasonable with minimal tree interference, and a lot of the distance is wetlands so FZ clearance shouldn't be a problem. There's a couple of things I wouldn't mind advice on: a) Where can I purchase either a 2Mbps or 11Mbps wavelan card from, preferably ISA. I've looked at IDS, but they don't list prices. The cheaper the better. :) (I'm in West Aus, but anywhere in Aus would be good) b) I have about 70m of 50ohm satellite cable here, which I would prefer to use over buying new stuff. The run will be about 10m at the most. Will this be suitable, or should I shell out for the stuff that's $85/10m. And are the pigtail adaptors advertised on x.net do-it-yourselfable ? c) I was looking to build the antenna's myself from jasons pages (being a hobbyist it's more fun :)). Will they work over that distance ? d) Finally, can omni-directional antenna's be used for the distance I'm talking about? If so, where and how much. (I've had bad experience pointing satellites, I'm concerned about the difficulty of pointing an antenna) Thanks in advance! ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C12840.E8928920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Howdy,

 

Been reading the archived and subscribed for a while, = this is an amazing resource of information, quite impressive! = :)

 

I'm wanting to establish a = wavelink with someone who is roughly 4km's away (5 max). Line of Sight is = reasonable with minimal tree interference, and a lot of the distance is wetlands so = FZ clearance shouldn't be a problem.

 

There's= a couple of things I wouldn't mind advice on:

 

a) Where can I purchase either a 2Mbps or 11Mbps = wavelan card from, preferably ISA. I've looked at IDS, but they don't list prices. The = cheaper the better. :) (I'm in West Aus, but anywhere in Aus would be = good)

 

b) I have about 70m of 50ohm satellite cable here, = which I would prefer to use over buying new stuff. The run will be about 10m at = the most. Will this be suitable, or should I shell out for the stuff that's $85/10m. And are the pigtail adaptors advertised on x.net do-it-yourselfable ?

 

c) I was looking to build the antenna's myself from = jasons pages (being a = hobbyist it's more fun :)). Will they work over that distance = ?

 

d) Finally, can omni-directional antenna's be used for the distance I'm talking about? If so, = where and how much. (I've had bad experience pointing satellites, I'm concerned about the difficulty of pointing an = antenna)

 

Thanks in advance!

------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C12840.E8928920-- From yloh@andrew.cmu.edu Sat Aug 18 09:56:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from smtp6.andrew.cmu.edu (SMTP6.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.86]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976394564 for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 09:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from UNIX14.ANDREW.CMU.EDU (UNIX14.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.11.214]) (user=yloh mech=KERBEROS_V4 (0 bits)) by smtp6.andrew.cmu.edu (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16) with ESMTP id f7IH0PVl003734 for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:00:25 -0400 Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:00:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Yee Chuan Loh Reply-To: To: Subject: set up wireless card as a repeater? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hello, I have this interesting situation at my new apartment. I'm able to receive my school's wireless network in a room closest to the nearest school building, but not in the rest of the house. Is there a way I could setup a linux station with a normal wireless card (e.g orinoco) in the room and sorta acts like a repeater to provide wireless access to the rest of the house? Any comments on this matter is appreciated. Thanks. From snoop9@hushmail.com Sat Aug 18 10:26:23 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from smtp1.hushmail.com (smtp1.hushmail.com [64.40.111.31]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46AEF4BBC for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 10:26:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailserver1d.hushmail.com (mailserver1.hushmail.com [64.40.111.27]) by smtp1.hushmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 433B91372D; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 10:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by mailserver1d.hushmail.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7IHSlc54755; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 10:28:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from snoop9@hushmail.com) Message-Id: <200108181728.f7IHSlc54755@mailserver1d.hushmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain To: wireless@lists.bawug.org Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org subject: Decoders for 802.11??? From: snoop9@hushmail.com date: Sat Aug 18 12:46:14 CDT 2001 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I have looked for decoders / plugins for Ethereal that will show the 802.11 management and control frames. Has anyone yet developed open sourced decoders to look at these frames? There are some commercial windoz based sniffers that now does this (Airopeek, Sniffer Pro, etc) but I sort of bulk when I am forced to use windoz. It's ethics and $$ reasons ! Thanks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Hush 2.0 wlsEARECABsFAjt+qeYUHHNub29wOUBodXNobWFpbC5jb20ACgkQcINCEeyS3lxEGgCd FBrVgFPP/DPNRP/hXeV20ArEwg4An0/Q/ahAgQ3Qkhd24ZDMseXC2+p6 =Rtfi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Free, secure Web-based email, now OpenPGP compliant - www.hushmail.com From zacca@jazi.net Sat Aug 18 10:34:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from syncopation-01.iinet.net.au (syncopation-01.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.17]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E62B411C for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 10:34:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28210 invoked by uid 666); 18 Aug 2001 17:37:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO UNIMATRIX1) (203.59.128.32) by 0 with SMTP; 18 Aug 2001 17:37:55 -0000 From: "Zaccary Charlesworth" To: Subject: SVEC Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 01:37:50 +0800 Message-ID: <000001c1280c$833dab60$2300a8c0@UNIMATRIX1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2505.0000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Has anyone used the SVEC WL-282 (USB) or WL-211F (PC Card) adaptors? I can get some new ones for $190 each, and they appear to support the necessary stuff to work (Though I can't find reference to external antenna support) or what chipset they use for nix support. I can also get some Netgear USB/PC Cards, but have the same question. Any help appreciated :) From berry@housebsd.org Sat Aug 18 10:50:22 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from fusion.housebsd.org (fusion.housebsd.org [216.136.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AACF344BA for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 10:50:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fusion.housebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 13265) id 07B2235705; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 10:56:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fusion.housebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EABE32DF02; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 10:56:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 10:56:06 -0700 (PDT) From: sean berry To: snoop9@hushmail.com Cc: wireless@lists.bawug.org, wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Decoders for 802.11??? In-Reply-To: <200108181728.f7IHSlc54755@mailserver1d.hushmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Apparently Ethereal can read the results of prismdump. I have neither of these tools, but I was present for a very intelligent explanation of the protocol as implmented. :) -- Sean Berry works with many flavors of UNIX, but especially Solaris/SPARC and NetBSD. His hobbies include graphics and raytracing. He drinks coke mostly. His opinions are not necessarily those of his employers. On Sat, 18 Aug -1 snoop9@hushmail.com wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > I have looked for decoders / plugins for > Ethereal that will show the 802.11 management and control frames. > > Has anyone yet developed open sourced decoders to look at these frames? > There are some commercial windoz based sniffers that now does this > (Airopeek, Sniffer Pro, etc) but I sort of bulk when I am forced to use > windoz. It's ethics and $$ reasons ! > > Thanks > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: Hush 2.0 > > wlsEARECABsFAjt+qeYUHHNub29wOUBodXNobWFpbC5jb20ACgkQcINCEeyS3lxEGgCd > FBrVgFPP/DPNRP/hXeV20ArEwg4An0/Q/ahAgQ3Qkhd24ZDMseXC2+p6 > =Rtfi > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Free, secure Web-based email, now OpenPGP compliant - www.hushmail.com > > -- > general wireless list, a bawug thing > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > From billp@boarder.org Sat Aug 18 14:51:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from acorn.he.net (acorn.he.net [64.71.137.130]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1AFE4122 for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 14:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from boarder.org (dsl092-008-162.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.8.162]) by acorn.he.net (8.8.6/8.8.2) with ESMTP id OAA02561; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 14:55:35 -0700 Message-ID: <3B7EE45C.62207A16@boarder.org> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 14:55:40 -0700 From: Bill Pennington Reply-To: billp@boarder.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: snoop9@hushmail.com Cc: wireless@lists.bawug.org, wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Decoders for 802.11??? References: <200108181728.f7IHSlc54755@mailserver1d.hushmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ The latest version of Ethereal will decode 802.11 frames. Tim newsham has some patches that will allow Ethereal to read in prism dump captures. See http://www.lava.net/~newsham/wlan very cool stuff. snoop9@hushmail.com wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > I have looked for decoders / plugins for > Ethereal that will show the 802.11 management and control frames. > > Has anyone yet developed open sourced decoders to look at these frames? > There are some commercial windoz based sniffers that now does this > (Airopeek, Sniffer Pro, etc) but I sort of bulk when I am forced to use > windoz. It's ethics and $$ reasons ! > > Thanks > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: Hush 2.0 > > wlsEARECABsFAjt+qeYUHHNub29wOUBodXNobWFpbC5jb20ACgkQcINCEeyS3lxEGgCd > FBrVgFPP/DPNRP/hXeV20ArEwg4An0/Q/ahAgQ3Qkhd24ZDMseXC2+p6 > =Rtfi > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Free, secure Web-based email, now OpenPGP compliant - www.hushmail.com > > -- > general wireless list, a bawug thing > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Bill Pennington - CISSP From moore@eds.org Sat Aug 18 17:41:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from lenore.eds.org (adsl-216-102-89-152.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.102.89.152]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715FD4B0A for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 17:41:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lenore.eds.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 330C214512C; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 14:13:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 14:13:03 -0700 To: snoop9@hushmail.com, wireless@lists.bawug.org, wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Decoders for 802.11??? Message-ID: <20010818141303.A9472@eds.org> References: <200108181728.f7IHSlc54755@mailserver1d.hushmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from berry@housebsd.org on Sat, Aug 18, 2001 at 10:56:06AM -0700 From: moore@eds.org (Jonathan Moore) Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ya just get a reseant vertion of etheral (I have 0.8.19) and it will decode them. -Jonathan Sam, 18 Aug 2001, sean berry wrote: >=20 > Apparently Ethereal can read the results of prismdump. I have neither of > these tools, but I was present for a very intelligent explanation of the > protocol as implmented. :) >=20 > -- > Sean Berry works with many flavors of UNIX, but especially Solaris/SPARC = and > NetBSD. His hobbies include graphics and raytracing. He drinks coke mos= tly. > His opinions are not necessarily those of his employers. =20 >=20 > On Sat, 18 Aug -1 snoop9@hushmail.com wrote: >=20 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >=20 > > I have looked for decoders / plugins for > > Ethereal that will show the 802.11 management and control frames. > >=20 > > Has anyone yet developed open sourced decoders to look at these frames? > > There are some commercial windoz based sniffers that now does this > > (Airopeek, Sniffer Pro, etc) but I sort of bulk when I am forced to use > > windoz. It's ethics and $$ reasons ! > >=20 > > Thanks > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: Hush 2.0 > >=20 > > wlsEARECABsFAjt+qeYUHHNub29wOUBodXNobWFpbC5jb20ACgkQcINCEeyS3lxEGgCd > > FBrVgFPP/DPNRP/hXeV20ArEwg4An0/Q/ahAgQ3Qkhd24ZDMseXC2+p6 > > =3DRtfi > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >=20 > > Free, secure Web-based email, now OpenPGP compliant - www.hushmail.com > >=20 > > -- > > general wireless list, a bawug thing > > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >=20 >=20 > -- > general wireless list, a bawug thing > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7ftpfgu5IPpxwyGURAqrKAJ9QKHXrnblQoN5P4h34ivkEDjIFVwCdF4UO yUErBTBMToOpLaTIrT/MT0Q= =hjZA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8-- From vortex@free2air.net Sun Aug 19 10:15:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from tele2.inweb.co.uk (tele-2.inweb.net.uk [212.38.64.10]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0636843FD for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 10:15:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from boojum.free2air.net ([213.210.24.29]) by tele2.inweb.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA29912 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 17:18:57 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Adam Burns Reply-To: vortex@free2air.net Organization: http://www.free2air.org To: Subject: Airsnort out for prism-2 chipset wireless cards Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 18:16:55 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01081918085309.00922@boojum.free2air.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Some people at HAL2001 last week were predicting this would be out within= the=20 week, and here it is ... Airsnort [ http://airsnort.sourceforge.net/ ] by Jeremy Bruestle and Blak= e=20 Hegerle will apparently sniff & decode WEP streams, regardless of key len= gth. http://www.free2air.org/?op=3Ddisplaystory;sid=3D2001/8/16/105015/351 for= some=20 background info. =2Evortex From janh@brightwatergroup.com Sun Aug 19 19:56:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from mail.brightwatergroup.net (unknown [203.25.121.40]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537674A63 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 19:56:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: RE: Advice Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 10:59:58 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <778DC899FE382B418082003D5EAFFE2E038B0A@mail.brightwatergroup.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4417.0 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: content-class: urn:content-classes:message Thread-Topic: Advice Thread-Index: AcEoGGwgD8TWAwqDRgq5VqhrdsbSWgBCiWOg From: "Jan Hurst" To: "Zaccary Charlesworth" , Cc: "Violet Klironomos" , Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hi Zac, =20 I have been looking into wireless hardware as best I can in Perth and trying my best to get hold of some "test stock". =20 You can get some Dlink and Netgear products from some of the Harvey Norman stores for around $350-$400, or access points from around (I'm guessing here) $1000. =20 You can also get Compaq WL cards from Qtech in town for around $400 (ballpark). They can also provide Compaq based access points somewhere around $1000 or so. =20 These prices are mostly guesswork and ballpark, so don't blame me if they aren't quite correct! =20 -jan =20 -----Original Message----- From: Zaccary Charlesworth [mailto:zacca@jazi.net]=20 Sent: Saturday, 18 August 2001 11:53 PM To: wireless@samba.org Subject: Advice =09 =09 Howdy, =20 Been reading the archived and subscribed for a while, this is an amazing resource of information, quite impressive! :) =20 I'm wanting to establish a wavelink with someone who is roughly 4km's away (5 max). Line of Sight is reasonable with minimal tree interference, and a lot of the distance is wetlands so FZ clearance shouldn't be a problem. =20 There's a couple of things I wouldn't mind advice on: =20 a) Where can I purchase either a 2Mbps or 11Mbps wavelan card from, preferably ISA. I've looked at IDS, but they don't list prices. The cheaper the better. :) (I'm in West Aus, but anywhere in Aus would be good) =20 b) I have about 70m of 50ohm satellite cable here, which I would prefer to use over buying new stuff. The run will be about 10m at the most. Will this be suitable, or should I shell out for the stuff that's $85/10m. And are the pigtail adaptors advertised on x.net do-it-yourselfable ? =20 c) I was looking to build the antenna's myself from jasons pages (being a hobbyist it's more fun :)). Will they work over that distance ? =20 d) Finally, can omni-directional antenna's be used for the distance I'm talking about? If so, where and how much. (I've had bad experience pointing satellites, I'm concerned about the difficulty of pointing an antenna) =20 Thanks in advance! From schelauske@hhi.de Mon Aug 20 01:47:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from gate.hhi.de (gate.HHI.DE [193.174.67.20]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 637A84BD5 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 01:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mails.hhi.de by gate.hhi.de via smtpd (for samba.sourceforge.net [198.186.203.85]) with SMTP; 20 Aug 2001 08:51:20 UT Received: from bspc6 (bs-pc6.HHI.DE) by mails.HHI.DE (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0GIC00H68Z9IP5@mails.HHI.DE> for wireless@lists.samba.org; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 10:51:19 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 10:54:52 +0200 From: Herwig Schelauske Subject: Orinoco Ad-Hoc under Linux (2.4.6) To: wireless@lists.samba.org Message-id: <000b01c12955$c6d59690$9c42aec1@hhi.de> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Priority: 3 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hi, I try to set up a Ad-Hoc wireless connection (Peer-To-Peer) with 2 Lucent Orinoco Silver PCMCIA-Cards (Variant 1, Version 4.00, Firmware 4.00/7.52) under Linux between an StrongARM based board (Assabet) and my notebook, using original Kernel 2.4.6 Hermes/Orinoco drivers. If I ping from Assabet to the notebook, I receive only LLC (Logic-Link Control) packets at my notebook. Cause I have no tcpdump/Ethereal at the Assabet, I only know what I'am receiving at the Notebook. Pinging from notebook to Assabet, I sending out ICMP-packets (see Ethereal log down, source and destination seems to be OK). ifconfig shows increasing RX packets at Assabet, but isn't answering (TX doesn't increase). Why that? How much faults did I made? Herwig PS: If I starts Win2k on the Notebook, Link Test is seeing the Assabet ("arm") Notebook (i686) | StrongARM -----------------------------+-------------------------- Kernel 2.4.6 (RedHat 7.1) | Kernel 2.4.6-rmk2-np1 cardmgr version 3.1.22 | cardmgr version 3.1.20 cardctl version 3.1.22 | cardctl version 3.1.20 Notebook: [root@bs-nb200 /root]# ifconfig eth0 ; iwconfig eth0 eth0 Linkverkapselung:Ethernet HWaddr 00:02:2D:00:D6:01 inet addr:193.174.66.200 Bcast:193.174.66.255 Maske:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 Empfangene Pakete:1327 Fehler:0 Weggeworfen:0 ueberlauf:0 Rahmen:0 Verschickte Packete:49 Fehler:0 Weggeworfen:0 ueberlauf:0 Rahmen:0 Kollisionen:0 Sendewarteschlangenlaenge:100 Interrupt:5 Basisadresse:0x100 Warning : Device eth0 has been compiled with a different version of Wireless Extension than ours (we are using version 10). Some things may be broken... eth0 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"bsfunklan" Nickname:"bs-nb200" Mode:Ad-Hoc Frequency:2.422GHz Cell: 02:02:2D:00:D6:01 Bit Rate=11Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity:1/3 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Encryption key:off Power Management:off Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 [root@bs-nb200 /root]# route Kernel IP Routentabelle Ziel Router Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 193.174.66.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo default arm 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 [root@bs-nb200 /root]# arp Adresse HWTyp HWAdresse Flags Maske Iface arm ether 00:02:2D:00:D7:E3 CM eth0 bs-nb200 ether 00:02:2D:00:D6:01 CM eth0 [root@bs-nb200 /root]# cat /etc/hosts # Do not remove the following line, or various programs # that require network functionality will fail. 127.0.0.1 bs-nb200 bs-nb200.hhi.de localhost 193.174.66.200 bs-nb200 bs-nb200.hhi.de 193.174.66.252 arm ____________ Assabet: [root@arm /root]# ifconfig eth0 ; iwconfig eth0 eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:02:2D:00:D7:E3 inet addr:193.174.66.252 Bcast:193.174.66.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:9 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:92 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 Interrupt:98 Warning : Device eth0 has been compiled with a different version of Wireless Extension than ours (we are using version 10). Some things may be broken... eth0 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"bsfunklan" Nickname:"arm" Mode:Ad-Hoc Frequency:2.422GHz Cell: 02:02:2D:00:D6:01 Bit Rate=11Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity:1/3 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Encryption key:off Power Management:off Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 [root@arm /root]# route Kernel IP Routentabelle Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface localnet * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 default bs-nb200 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 [root@bs-nb200 /root]# arp Adresse HWTyp HWAdresse Flags Maske Iface bs-nb200 ether 00:02:2D:00:D6:01 CM eth0 [root@bs-nb200 /root]# cat /etc/hosts # Do not remove the following line, or various programs # that require network functionality will fail. 127.0.0.1 localhost arm 193.174.66.200 bs-nb200 ____________ ping from Assabet to Notebook: Ethereal shows LLC-packets like this: Frame 1 (92 on wire, 92 captured) Arrival Time: Aug 17, 2001 19:08:03.8202 Time delta from previous packet: 0.000000 seconds Time relative to first packet: 0.000000 seconds Frame Number: 1 Packet Length: 92 bytes Capture Length: 92 bytes IEEE 802.3 Destination: 00:02:2d:00:d6:01 (Lucent_00:d6:01) Source: 00:02:2d:00:d7:e3 (Lucent_00:d7:e3) Length: 92 Logical-Link Control DSAP: NULL LSAP (0x00) IG Bit: Individual SSAP: NULL LSAP (0x00) CR Bit: Command Control field: I, N(R) = 85, N(S) = 85 (0xAAAA) 1010 101. .... .... = N(R) = 85 .... .... 1010 101. = N(S) = 85 .... .... .... ...0 = Information frame Data (74 bytes) 0 0300 00f8 0800 4500 0054 0000 4000 4001 ......E..T..@.@. 10 3188 c1ae 42fc c1ae 42c8 0800 6bc3 9e02 1...B...B...k... 20 5a02 0424 0000 f6ad 0100 44fb ffbf 9118 Z..$......D..... 30 0002 982b 0240 d0d7 0140 70da 0140 1600 ...+.@...@p..@.. 40 0000 0000 0000 5836 0240 ......X6.@ ping from Notebook to Assabet: Ethereal shows ICMP-packets like this: Frame 1 (98 on wire, 98 captured) Arrival Time: Aug 17, 2001 19:29:33.1172 Time delta from previous packet: 0.000000 seconds Time relative to first packet: 0.000000 seconds Frame Number: 1 Packet Length: 98 bytes Capture Length: 98 bytes Ethernet II Destination: 00:02:2d:00:d7:e3 (Lucent_00:d7:e3) Source: 00:02:2d:00:d6:01 (Lucent_00:d6:01) Type: IP (0x0800) Internet Protocol Version: 4 Header length: 20 bytes Differentiated Services Field: 0x00 (DSCP 0x00: Default; ECN: 0x00) 0000 00.. = Differentiated Services Codepoint: Default (0x00) .... ..0. = ECN-Capable Transport (ECT): 0 .... ...0 = ECN-CE: 0 Total Length: 84 Identification: 0x0000 Flags: 0x04 .1.. = Don't fragment: Set ..0. = More fragments: Not set Fragment offset: 0 Time to live: 64 Protocol: ICMP (0x01) Header checksum: 0x3188 (correct) Source: bs-nb200 (193.174.66.200) Destination: arm (193.174.66.252) Internet Control Message Protocol Type: 8 (Echo (ping) request) Code: 0 Checksum: 0x229c (correct) Identifier: 0x1407 Sequence number: 15:00 Data (56 bytes) From David.Dominick@delta.com Mon Aug 20 09:55:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from satlmsghub04.delta-air.com (dragonfire4.delta.com [205.174.22.24]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45CB04EA6 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 09:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by satlmsghub04.delta-air.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:59:19 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Dominick, David" To: "'yeechuan@cmu.edu'" , wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: set up wireless card as a repeater? Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:59:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ yes. You can load the outdoor router software on the AP (Orinoco) and set it to repeater mode. -----Original Message----- From: Yee Chuan Loh [mailto:yloh@andrew.cmu.edu] Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 1:00 PM To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: set up wireless card as a repeater? Hello, I have this interesting situation at my new apartment. I'm able to receive my school's wireless network in a room closest to the nearest school building, but not in the rest of the house. Is there a way I could setup a linux station with a normal wireless card (e.g orinoco) in the room and sorta acts like a repeater to provide wireless access to the rest of the house? Any comments on this matter is appreciated. Thanks. From mikeoldfield@gmx.net Mon Aug 20 11:21:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D141047F2 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:21:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25773 invoked by uid 0); 20 Aug 2001 18:24:58 -0000 Received: from pd9501ff3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (HELO gmx.de) (217.80.31.243) by mail.gmx.net (mp003-rz3) with SMTP; 20 Aug 2001 18:24:58 -0000 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:24:28 +0200 From: mikeoldfield@gmx.net To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: ZoomAir 4100 PCMCIA card under Linux X-Mailer: POST/LX 3.1a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010820182123.D141047F2@lists.samba.org> Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hello list, first, I would like to introduce myself: My name is Daniel Hertrich, I'm living in Berlin, Germany. I am 23 years old and I'm studying electric engeneering at TU Berlin with specialization to communication networks. I am new to this list. I am here, because I am currently working on a project at university which involves wireless LAN. I have two ZoomAir 4100 PCMCIA cards (802.11b compliant, PrismII chipset), and I would like to setup one of them as an access point under Linux, the other as a normal client. What I have managed so far is to let them work both in their proprietary ad-hoc mode with the wvlan_cs driver (port_type=3). This works, but only with low bitrates, I never get more than about 1-1.5Mb/s. Another disadvantage is that I cannot use iwconfig or /proc/net/wireless to read any link quality values or so. All these values are zero. Does anyone know why? Or how it could be changed? I have tried to use the linux-wlan drivers and to load a tertiary firmware up to one of the cards in order to make it work as an access point, but uploading failed everytime, because another value is reda from the card as the result code than expected (0 instead of 1 or vice versa - I don't remember exactly, since this was some time ago). Is there another way to use one card as an access point, preferably with the wvlan_cs or orinoco_cs driver? What at all about the orinoco_cs driver? Would that work with the ZoomAir 4100? Is that driver packaged with the newer pcmcia-cs packages, or is this only in the linux kernel? Are there people who have similar setups like mine? Please contact me! Thanks a lot! daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact From yloh@andrew.cmu.edu Mon Aug 20 11:53:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from smtp5.andrew.cmu.edu (SMTP5.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.85]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C6F34719 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:53:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from UNIX15.ANDREW.CMU.EDU (UNIX15.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.11.215]) (user=yloh mech=KERBEROS_V4 (0 bits)) by smtp5.andrew.cmu.edu (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16) with ESMTP id f7KI3p7l020826; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:03:51 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:03:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Yee Chuan Loh Reply-To: To: "Dominick, David" Cc: Subject: RE: set up wireless card as a repeater? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Am I able to do that without buying an AP? Like just doing the same thing but with a normal card and a linux/windoze system? On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Dominick, David wrote: > yes. You can load the outdoor router software on the AP (Orinoco) and set it > to repeater mode. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Yee Chuan Loh [mailto:yloh@andrew.cmu.edu] > Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 1:00 PM > To: wireless@lists.samba.org > Subject: set up wireless card as a repeater? > > > Hello, > > I have this interesting situation at my new apartment. I'm able to receive > my school's wireless network in a room closest to the nearest school > building, but not in the rest of the house. > Is there a way I could setup a linux station with a normal wireless card > (e.g orinoco) in the room and sorta acts like a repeater to provide > wireless access to the rest of the house? > > Any comments on this matter is appreciated. > > Thanks. > > From mcintosh@ozxpress.com.au Mon Aug 20 15:54:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from smtp02.iprimus.net.au (www02.pod02.corp.iprimus.net.au [203.134.65.107]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 346184215 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:54:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from braveheart ([203.134.99.226]) by smtp02.iprimus.net.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3571); Tue, 21 Aug 2001 08:58:06 +1000 Message-ID: <02eb01c129cb$a7c85af0$0a01a8c0@braveheart> From: "mcintosh" To: Subject: where do i get lucent silver cards cheap? Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 08:58:40 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Aug 2001 22:58:06.0622 (UTC) FILETIME=[931B3BE0:01C129CB] Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Can anyone help me I need a couple of lucent silver cards Cheap, Do they come with patch leads, or can't you put a external antenner on them. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Don McIntosh ----------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de Tue Aug 21 00:04:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailproxy.de.uu.net (mailproxy.de.uu.net [192.76.144.34]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F3B14102 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 00:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from AndrewsNotebook (pec-120-240.tnt10.me2.uunet.de [149.225.120.240]) by mailproxy.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with SMTP id JAA03914 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 09:08:19 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Andrew Smart" To: Subject: pcmcia /orinoco - compiling Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 09:08:00 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c12a10$03d07140$f078e195@AndrewsNotebook> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20010820190246.189A64FB8@lists.samba.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hi folks, I stepped up from the 2.2 - kernel to the 2.4.4-4GB kernel (SuSe 7.2) because I wanted the orinoco-drivers for my WLAN cards (orinoco-OEMs). I tried to compile it and got in problems (headers not found), I said, ok, maybe its the pcmcia-package then I downloaded the latest version for pcmcia (3.1.28) and tried to compile it and it didn't work (I got a error message that I shouldn't include header files from the kernel directly but throu a symbolic link, I did it, now I get compiler errors that some asm/rw*.h - files are not found). It's obvious that I screwed it up, but I maaybe someone can give me a hint... its not the first time I compile something, you know. For example I already compiled my older pcmcia package without problems on the old kernel... I would be happy if one of you helpful guys can tell me the version numbers of the pcmcia and orinoco - packages which should be working under 2.4.4 ... Thanx a lot in advance, Andrew From paul@busnet.se Tue Aug 21 02:11:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from junior.busnet.se (busnet.se [213.141.78.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8938B51B4 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 02:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from worker ([213.141.80.11]) by junior.busnet.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA31417 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:15:08 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Paul_Wis=E9n?= To: Subject: kernel, modules and pcmcia developers.. here's a bug for you.. (i think..) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:15:20 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hi, My pcmcia stuff crashes every 4th hour. I have no idea why... Sometimes it can work for 6 hours, sometimes only 2.. Is it the kernel ? The pcmcia ? The orinoco module, the machine itself or what is it ? The fun thing is that it works just fine until it suddenly just stops.. Basicly messages says this: Aug 20 11:20:18 vonanka kernel: eth1: Undecryptable frame on Rx. Frame dropped. Aug 20 11:20:22 vonanka kernel: eth1: Oversized frame received (41489 bytes) Aug 20 11:20:23 vonanka kernel: eth1: Oversized frame received (45489 bytes) Aug 20 11:20:36 vonanka kernel: eth1: Bad CRC on Rx. Frame dropped. Aug 20 11:20:52 vonanka kernel: eth1: Unknown Rx error (0x3). Frame dropped. Aug 20 11:21:09 vonanka kernel: hermes @ 0x100: Card removed while waiting for command completion. Aug 20 11:21:09 vonanka kernel: eth1: Error -19 transmitting packet Aug 20 11:21:09 vonanka kernel: eth1: Error -16 writing packet header to BAP Aug 20 11:21:09 vonanka last message repeated 306 times Then it repeats this until i'm out of space on /var .. Aug 20 11:21:09 vonanka kernel: eth1: Et header to BAP Aug 20 11:21:09 vonanka kernel: ett header to BAP Aug 20 11:21:09 vonanka kernel: Trying to free nonexistent resource <000003e2-000003e3> unloading Kernel Card Services Linux Kernel Card Services 3.1.22 options: [pci] [cardbus] Intel PCIC probe: Vadem VG-469 ISA-to-PCMCIA at port 0x3e0 ofs 0x00, 2 sockets host opts [0]: none host opts [1]: none ISA irqs (scanned) = 3,4,7,9,15 polling interval = 1000 ms Vadem VG-469 ISA-to-PCMCIA at port 0x3e2 ofs 0x00, 2 sockets host opts [2]: none host opts [3]: none ISA irqs (scanned) = 3,4,7,9,15 polling interval = 1000 ms cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean. cs: IO port probe 0x0800-0x08ff: clean. cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x170-0x177 0x290-0x297 0x370-0x37f 0x4d0-0x4d7 cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean. cs: memory probe 0x0d0000-0x0dffff: clean. hermes.c: 12 Dec 2000 David Gibson orinoco.c 0.06c (David Gibson and others) dldwd: David's Less Dodgy WaveLAN/IEEE Driver orinoco_cs.c 0.06 (David Gibson and others) eth1: Firmware ID 1F vendor 0x1 (Lucent) version 7.52 eth1: Ad-hoc demo mode supported. eth1: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported. eth1: WEP supported, "128"-bit key. eth1: MAC address 00:02:2D:07:3B:31 eth1: Station name "HERMES I" eth1: ready eth1: index 0x01: Vcc 5.0, irq 3, io 0x0100-0x013f eth2: Firmware ID 1F vendor 0x1 (Lucent) version 7.52 eth2: Ad-hoc demo mode supported. eth2: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported. eth2: WEP supported, "128"-bit key. eth2: MAC address 00:02:2D:09:1D:05 eth2: Station name "HERMES I" eth2: ready eth2: index 0x01: Vcc 5.0, irq 9, io 0x0180-0x01bf eth1: Unknown Rx error (0x3). Frame dropped. eth1: Bad CRC on Rx. Frame dropped. eth1: Bad CRC on Rx. Frame dropped. eth1: Unknown Rx error (0x3). Frame dropped. / Paul From J.P.Knight@lboro.ac.uk Tue Aug 21 02:46:09 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailer1.lut.ac.uk (mailer1.lut.ac.uk [158.125.1.202]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5222E51D8 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 02:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jon (helo=localhost) by mailer1.lut.ac.uk with local-smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 15Z8AG-0003yj-00; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:49:40 +0100 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:49:40 +0100 (BST) From: Jon Knight X-Sender: jon@mailer1 To: yeechuan@cmu.edu Cc: "Dominick, David" , wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: set up wireless card as a repeater? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Lboro-Filtered: mailer1.lut.ac.uk, Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:49:40 +0100 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Yee Chuan Loh wrote: > Am I able to do that without buying an AP? Like just doing the same thing > but with a normal card and a linux/windoze system? You could run the Linux box as a masquerading gateway or a router. What I've found you can't do is have the Linux box act as a transparent bridge as the wireless cards don't appear to play nicely. Think of the wireless card as your "phone line" and then look at the IP Masq HOW-TOs. Tatty bye, Jim'll From vestman@lut.fi Tue Aug 21 03:00:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from kuha.cc.lut.fi (kuha.cc.lut.fi [157.24.10.252]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D877D51A2 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 03:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (vestman@localhost) by kuha.cc.lut.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02021 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 13:03:53 +0300 X-Authentication-Warning: kuha.cc.lut.fi: vestman owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 13:03:53 +0300 (EEST) From: Jussi Vestman X-X-Sender: To: Subject: AirSnort sniffing with Orinoco Cold cards Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hi! What kind of experinces do you have with just released AirSnort tool for revealing IEEE 802.11 network password? We have here network, which uses Lucent's access points and Orinoco Cold cards. Has anybody succeed in breaking 128 bit encryption used by Cold cards? AirSnort crashes after it has printed some output. I'll try to debug that later. --- Mr. Jussi Vestman An IT student at Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland jussi.vestman@lut.fi http://www.lut.fi/~vestman/ From David.Dominick@delta.com Tue Aug 21 03:36:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from satlmsghub03.delta-air.com (dragonfire1.delta.com [205.174.22.20]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB31A51B1 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 03:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by satlmsghub03.delta-air.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 06:50:40 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Dominick, David" To: 'Jon Knight' , yeechuan@cmu.edu Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: set up wireless card as a repeater? Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 06:39:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ you can download the firmware and build an AP. Basically you need to create a BSD box and install the outdoor router utility on it.. then you will need a separate (pref windows) box to manage it. -----Original Message----- From: Jon Knight [mailto:J.P.Knight@lboro.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 5:50 AM To: yeechuan@cmu.edu Cc: Dominick, David; wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: set up wireless card as a repeater? On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Yee Chuan Loh wrote: > Am I able to do that without buying an AP? Like just doing the same thing > but with a normal card and a linux/windoze system? You could run the Linux box as a masquerading gateway or a router. What I've found you can't do is have the Linux box act as a transparent bridge as the wireless cards don't appear to play nicely. Think of the wireless card as your "phone line" and then look at the IP Masq HOW-TOs. Tatty bye, Jim'll From J.P.Knight@lboro.ac.uk Tue Aug 21 03:41:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailer1.lut.ac.uk (mailer1.lut.ac.uk [158.125.1.202]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DC955205 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 03:41:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jon (helo=localhost) by mailer1.lut.ac.uk with local-smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 15Z928-0004S4-00; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:45:20 +0100 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:45:20 +0100 (BST) From: Jon Knight X-Sender: jon@mailer1 To: mikeoldfield@gmx.net Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: ZoomAir 4100 PCMCIA card under Linux In-Reply-To: <20010820182123.D141047F2@lists.samba.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Lboro-Filtered: mailer1.lut.ac.uk, Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:45:20 +0100 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 mikeoldfield@gmx.net wrote: > I have two ZoomAir 4100 PCMCIA cards (802.11b compliant, PrismII > chipset), and I would like to setup one of them as an access point > under Linux, the other as a normal client. I don't know if you can set up the ZoomAir cards as an access point. Certainly the Lucent/Buffalo (Hermes) cards I've used don't have access point capability under Linux as I don't think Lucent ever released the specs on how to get the cards into AP mode. > Another disadvantage is that I cannot use iwconfig or > /proc/net/wireless to read any link quality values or so. All these > values are zero. Does anyone know why? Or how it could be changed? Lots of the /proc/net/wireless stats only make sense if you are talking to a single access point. If you are in one of the ad-hoc modes then they don't record any stats. Tatty bye, Jim'll From J.P.Knight@lboro.ac.uk Tue Aug 21 03:43:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailer1.lut.ac.uk (mailer1.lut.ac.uk [158.125.1.202]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328BE5232 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 03:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jon (helo=localhost) by mailer1.lut.ac.uk with local-smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 15Z93y-0004SY-00; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:47:14 +0100 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:47:14 +0100 (BST) From: Jon Knight X-Sender: jon@mailer1 To: "Dominick, David" Cc: 'Jon Knight' , yeechuan@cmu.edu, wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: set up wireless card as a repeater? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Lboro-Filtered: mailer1.lut.ac.uk, Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:47:14 +0100 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Dominick, David wrote: > you can download the firmware and build an AP. Basically you need to create > a BSD box and install the outdoor router utility on it.. then you will need > a separate (pref windows) box to manage it. But isn't the outdoor router an extra (as in additional cost) bit of firmware? Otherwise folk would just buy Orinoco AP1000s and flash them to ROR, COR, etc. Or am I missing some subtle trick here? Tatty bye, Jim'll From David.Dominick@delta.com Tue Aug 21 03:45:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from satlmsghub03.delta-air.com (dragonfire1.delta.com [205.174.22.20]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553B0526A for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 03:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by satlmsghub03.delta-air.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 07:00:04 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Dominick, David" To: 'Jon Knight' Cc: yeechuan@cmu.edu, wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: set up wireless card as a repeater? Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 06:49:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ yes there is a licensing cost for the software. It is the only one that I know of that can turn an AP, or plain NIC into a repater though. Check out http://www.wavelan.com -----Original Message----- From: Jon Knight [mailto:J.P.Knight@lboro.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 6:47 AM To: Dominick, David Cc: 'Jon Knight'; yeechuan@cmu.edu; wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: set up wireless card as a repeater? On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Dominick, David wrote: > you can download the firmware and build an AP. Basically you need to create > a BSD box and install the outdoor router utility on it.. then you will need > a separate (pref windows) box to manage it. But isn't the outdoor router an extra (as in additional cost) bit of firmware? Otherwise folk would just buy Orinoco AP1000s and flash them to ROR, COR, etc. Or am I missing some subtle trick here? Tatty bye, Jim'll From David.Dominick@delta.com Tue Aug 21 03:52:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from satlmsghub03.delta-air.com (dragonfire1.delta.com [205.174.22.20]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB2B4102 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 03:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by satlmsghub03.delta-air.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 07:06:57 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Dominick, David" To: 'Jon Knight' Cc: yeechuan@cmu.edu, wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: set up wireless card as a repeater? Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 06:55:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ BTW I just did a flash of my AP1000 and it now works as an AP and a repeater. There is a drop down box to let me choose now. I am not sure of the license cost because we bought hundreds of APs with a full support contract. -----Original Message----- From: Jon Knight [mailto:J.P.Knight@lboro.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 6:47 AM To: Dominick, David Cc: 'Jon Knight'; yeechuan@cmu.edu; wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: set up wireless card as a repeater? On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Dominick, David wrote: > you can download the firmware and build an AP. Basically you need to create > a BSD box and install the outdoor router utility on it.. then you will need > a separate (pref windows) box to manage it. But isn't the outdoor router an extra (as in additional cost) bit of firmware? Otherwise folk would just buy Orinoco AP1000s and flash them to ROR, COR, etc. Or am I missing some subtle trick here? Tatty bye, Jim'll From mperry@lnxpowered.org Tue Aug 21 10:32:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mperry.lnxpowered.org (m206-45.dsl.tsoft.com [198.144.206.45]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52CB1415C for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:32:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mperry by mperry.lnxpowered.org with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15ZFRc-0006zq-00 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:36:04 -0700 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:36:04 -0700 From: Michael Perry To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Lucent Silver 11mb, RG1000 Message-ID: <20010821103604.A26838@lnxpowered.org> Reply-To: mperry@lnxpowered.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i X-Operating-System: Linux/2.4.7 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hi all- I just compiled a 2.4.9 kernel to get support for my wireless card which is a silver 11mb. I have a RG1000 which does transparent bridging for me to my DSL connection at home. If I place a dlink card into my IBM Thinkpad 600e, I get two highbeeps, the hermes and orinoco, and orinoco_cs drivers load and my scheme runs for the IP address I want in my /etc/pcmcia/network.opts file. Wireless.opts works okay too. Here is some output with the dlink card loaded: CPU0 0: 115099 XT-PIC timer 1: 2315 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 3: 28 XT-PIC orinoco_cs 11: 12 XT-PIC Texas Instruments PCI1251A, Texas Instruments PCI1251A (#2) 14: 1594 XT-PIC ide0 15: 3 XT-PIC ide1 NMI: 0 ERR: 0 And the last few lines of my dmesg eth0: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported. eth0: WEP supported, 40-bit key. eth0: MAC address 00:05:5D:F1:C9:58 eth0: Station name "Prism I" eth0: ready eth0: index 0x01: Vcc 3.3, irq 3, io 0x0100-0x013f eth0: Error -110 setting multicast list. eth0: Error -16 setting multicast list. Here is my exceedingly simple /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts file case "$ADDRESS" in home,*,*,*) ESSID="my ESSID" MODE="managed" KEY="s:mykey" ;; esac I have a pretty basic config.opts file which excludes irq 7 only. All this works very well with my dlink card and hermes, orinoco, orinoco_cs get loaded like they should. Now if I place Orinoco Silver 11mb card in the laptop, I get a high-low beep combination which led me to believe its an irq issue. On 2.2.18, with the wavelan_cs drivers, teh card took irq 9. If I do a cardctl ident, the card is found. But when the card is slid in, hermes, orinoco, orinoco_cs do not load and I get the hi-low beep combo. I am using debian unstable here with the 2.4.9 kernel with schemes enabled for home and work. For work, I use a wired 3com card which works fine. I have a hermes.conf file in /etc/pcmcia also. It does not have irq lists in it or masqs. Its pretty much the default file that I downloaded and placed in /etc/pcmcia. I know it works because the dlink card works with it perfectly. I think the recommended behavior for hermes and the orinoco drivers are what I see what the dlink card. Anyone have any hacks or changes they have had to do with the drivers in this situation? I've followed teh troubleshooting stuff pretty much for pcmcia cards and I can get any other card to work except for the orinoco silver 11's. I have three of them with different firmware dates. One is very recently flashed. The RG1000 works very well and is setup to transparently bridge network traffic. Thanks and sorry for the long email. Wanted to try to cover most the bases. -- Michael Perry | "Do or do not; there is no try" Master Yoda mperry@lnxpowered.org | http://www.lnxpowered.org From david@gibson.dropbear.id.au Tue Aug 21 19:18:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from localhost (unknown [144.137.80.9]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A88FF43FA for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 19:18:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dgibson by localhost with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15ZNeD-0007mm-00 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:21:37 +1000 Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:21:36 +1000 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Lucent Silver 11mb, RG1000 Message-ID: <20010822122136.C28430@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <20010821103604.A26838@lnxpowered.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010821103604.A26838@lnxpowered.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 10:36:04AM -0700, Michael Perry wrote: > Hi all- > > I just compiled a 2.4.9 kernel to get support for my wireless card which > is a silver 11mb. I have a RG1000 which does transparent bridging for me > to my DSL connection at home. If I place a dlink card into my IBM > Thinkpad 600e, I get two highbeeps, the hermes and orinoco, and > orinoco_cs drivers load and my scheme runs for the IP address I want in > my /etc/pcmcia/network.opts file. Wireless.opts works okay too. > > Here is some output with the dlink card loaded: > > > CPU0 > 0: 115099 XT-PIC timer > 1: 2315 XT-PIC keyboard > 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade > 3: 28 XT-PIC orinoco_cs > 11: 12 XT-PIC Texas Instruments PCI1251A, Texas Instruments PCI1251A (#2) > 14: 1594 XT-PIC ide0 > 15: 3 XT-PIC ide1 > NMI: 0 > ERR: 0 > > And the last few lines of my dmesg > > eth0: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported. > eth0: WEP supported, 40-bit key. > eth0: MAC address 00:05:5D:F1:C9:58 > eth0: Station name "Prism I" > eth0: ready > eth0: index 0x01: Vcc 3.3, irq 3, io 0x0100-0x013f > eth0: Error -110 setting multicast list. > eth0: Error -16 setting multicast list. > > Here is my exceedingly simple /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts file > > case "$ADDRESS" in > home,*,*,*) > ESSID="my ESSID" > MODE="managed" > KEY="s:mykey" > ;; > esac > > I have a pretty basic config.opts file which excludes irq 7 only. All > this works very well with my dlink card and hermes, orinoco, orinoco_cs > get loaded like they should. > > Now if I place Orinoco Silver 11mb card in the laptop, I get a high-low > beep combination which led me to believe its an irq issue. On 2.2.18, > with the wavelan_cs drivers, teh card took irq 9. If I do a cardctl > ident, the card is found. But when the card is slid in, hermes, > orinoco, orinoco_cs do not load and I get the hi-low beep combo. Can you send the full output from "cardctl ident" and also check your logs (probably /var/log/messages) for any error messages from cardmgr. -- David Gibson | Microsoft: Making the easy things hard david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | and the hard things buggy http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From mperry@lnxpowered.org Tue Aug 21 21:40:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mperry.lnxpowered.org (m206-45.dsl.tsoft.com [198.144.206.45]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D53A4100 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 21:40:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mperry by mperry.lnxpowered.org with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15ZPrj-0007MJ-00 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 21:43:43 -0700 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 21:43:43 -0700 From: Michael Perry To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Lucent Silver 11mb, RG1000 Message-ID: <20010821214343.A28281@lnxpowered.org> Reply-To: mperry@lnxpowered.org References: <20010821103604.A26838@lnxpowered.org> <20010822122136.C28430@zax> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010822122136.C28430@zax> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i X-Operating-System: Linux/2.4.7 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Quoting David Gibson on Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 12:21:36PM +1000: > > Can you send the full output from "cardctl ident" and also check your > logs (probably /var/log/messages) for any error messages from cardmgr. > > -- > David Gibson | Microsoft: Making the easy things hard > david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | and the hard things buggy > http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson > > Hi David- Here is the result of both commands on the laptop: speedy: cardctl ident --- Socket 0: product info: "Lucent Technologies", "WaveLAN/IEEE", "Version 01.01", "" manfid: 0x0156, 0x0002 function: 6 (network) Socket 1: no product info available speedy: tail -10 /var/log/messages Aug 21 21:37:47 speedy kernel: VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. Aug 21 21:37:47 speedy kernel: Freeing unused kernel memory: 188k freed Aug 21 21:37:47 speedy kernel: Adding Swap: 200804k swap-space (priority -1) Aug 21 21:37:47 speedy kernel: Real Time Clock Driver v1.10d Aug 21 21:37:48 speedy kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean. Aug 21 21:37:48 speedy kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0800-0x08ff: clean. Aug 21 21:37:48 speedy kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x200-0x207 0x220-0x22f 0x388-0x38f 0x3b8-0x3df 0x4d0-0x4d7 Aug 21 21:37:48 speedy kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x1000-0x17ff: excluding 0x15e8-0x15ef Aug 21 21:37:48 speedy kernel: cs: memory probe 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff: excluding 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff Aug 21 21:37:48 speedy kernel: cs: memory probe 0x60000000-0x60ffffff: clean. -- Michael Perry | "Do or do not; there is no try" Master Yoda mperry@lnxpowered.org | http://www.lnxpowered.org From matthew@pick.ucam.org Wed Aug 22 01:19:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from chiark.greenend.org.uk (chiark.greenend.org.uk [195.224.76.132]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1E4146CA for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 01:19:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (ming.empire.pick.ucam.org) [172.16.22.1] (mail) by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #2) id 15ZTI3-0007ok-00 (Debian); Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:23:07 +0100 Received: from matthew by ming.empire.pick.ucam.org with local (Exim 3.31 #1 (Debian)) id 15ZNGY-0000dT-00; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 02:57:10 +0100 From: Matthew Vernon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15235.4470.431306.952831@ming.empire.pick.ucam.org> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 02:57:10 +0100 (BST) To: Jussi Vestman Cc: Subject: AirSnort sniffing with Orinoco Cold cards In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 9) "Canyonlands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Jussi Vestman writes: > What kind of experinces do you have with just released > AirSnort tool for revealing IEEE 802.11 network password? I've not used it. OTOH, the attack is pretty trivial (and an implementation has been published), so don't rely on WEP for anything at all. I'd use ssh or similar for anything you care about security-wise. Matthew -- "At least you know where you are with Microsoft." "True. I just wish I'd brought a paddle." http://www.debian.org From David.Dominick@delta.com Wed Aug 22 05:28:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from satlmsghub04.delta-air.com (dragonfire4.delta.com [205.174.22.24]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E134E08 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 05:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by satlmsghub04.delta-air.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:30:28 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Dominick, David" To: 'Matthew Vernon' , Jussi Vestman Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: AirSnort sniffing with Orinoco Cold cards Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:30:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ doesnt AirSnort require the Prusm II chipset to function? -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Vernon [mailto:matthew@empire.ucam.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 9:57 PM To: Jussi Vestman Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: AirSnort sniffing with Orinoco Cold cards Jussi Vestman writes: > What kind of experinces do you have with just released > AirSnort tool for revealing IEEE 802.11 network password? I've not used it. OTOH, the attack is pretty trivial (and an implementation has been published), so don't rely on WEP for anything at all. I'd use ssh or similar for anything you care about security-wise. Matthew -- "At least you know where you are with Microsoft." "True. I just wish I'd brought a paddle." http://www.debian.org From march@indirect.com Wed Aug 22 06:48:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from indirect.com (bud.indirect.com [204.120.36.202]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D8B155F2 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 06:46:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2420 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2001 14:18:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO D4LHBR01) (204.120.36.202) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Aug 2001 14:18:44 -0000 Message-ID: <03f101c12b11$444cb240$0200a8c0@D4LHBR01> From: "Michael F. March" To: "Dominick, David" , "'Matthew Vernon'" , "Jussi Vestman" Cc: References: Subject: Re: AirSnort sniffing with Orinoco Cold cards Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 06:19:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ yes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dominick, David" To: "'Matthew Vernon'" ; "Jussi Vestman" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 5:30 AM Subject: RE: AirSnort sniffing with Orinoco Cold cards > doesnt AirSnort require the Prusm II chipset to function? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Vernon [mailto:matthew@empire.ucam.org] > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 9:57 PM > To: Jussi Vestman > Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org > Subject: AirSnort sniffing with Orinoco Cold cards > > > Jussi Vestman writes: > > > What kind of experinces do you have with just released > > AirSnort tool for revealing IEEE 802.11 network password? > > I've not used it. OTOH, the attack is pretty trivial (and an > implementation has been published), so don't rely on WEP for anything > at all. I'd use ssh or similar for anything you care about > security-wise. > > Matthew > > -- > "At least you know where you are with Microsoft." > "True. I just wish I'd brought a paddle." > http://www.debian.org From vestman@lut.fi Wed Aug 22 06:57:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from kuha.cc.lut.fi (kuha.cc.lut.fi [157.24.10.252]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A16B74E5E for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 06:57:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (vestman@localhost) by kuha.cc.lut.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA09234 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:01:21 +0300 X-Authentication-Warning: kuha.cc.lut.fi: vestman owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:01:21 +0300 (EEST) From: Jussi Vestman X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: AirSnort sniffing with Orinoco Gold cards In-Reply-To: <03f101c12b11$444cb240$0200a8c0@D4LHBR01> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Michael F. March wrote: > yes > > > doesnt AirSnort require the Prusm II chipset to function? I actually do sniffing with Compaq WL100, which is Prism II based. Other stations in the network are using mainly Lucent's Orinoco Gold cards and I am wondering if AirSnort can break 128 bit encryption used by them at all. --- Mr. Jussi Vestman An IT student at Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland jussi.vestman@lut.fi http://www.lut.fi/~vestman/ From David.Dominick@delta.com Wed Aug 22 08:16:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from satlmsghub04.delta-air.com (dragonfire4.delta.com [205.174.22.24]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EBD85748 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:16:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by satlmsghub04.delta-air.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:20:03 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Dominick, David" To: 'Jussi Vestman' , wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: AirSnort sniffing with Orinoco Gold cards Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:20:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ The level of encryption doesn't matter. WEP uses a public key and a shared key. The public key is transmitted clear text. All of the computers on the network use the same shared key. One example of a way to break the key is: Learn both the ciphertext and the plaintext for some packets encrypted with a given IV v. This is really easy if you know the plaintext, because, for example, you sent it , say via pings, or spam email! you can also do it passively by watching for collisions. Then you can easily determine the keystream RC4(k,v) by XORing the plaintext and the ciphertext. Note that you do not learn the value of the shared secret k. Now you store that keystream in a table, indexed by v. This table is at most 1500 * 2^24 bytes = 24 GB Fits on a single cheap disk The next time you see a packet with an IV stored in the table, you can just look up the keystream, XOR it against the packet, and read the data! AirSnort basically uses this premise to break the key without bothering to crack the encryption. -----Original Message----- From: Jussi Vestman [mailto:vestman@lut.fi] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:01 AM To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: AirSnort sniffing with Orinoco Gold cards On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Michael F. March wrote: > yes > > > doesnt AirSnort require the Prusm II chipset to function? I actually do sniffing with Compaq WL100, which is Prism II based. Other stations in the network are using mainly Lucent's Orinoco Gold cards and I am wondering if AirSnort can break 128 bit encryption used by them at all. --- Mr. Jussi Vestman An IT student at Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland jussi.vestman@lut.fi http://www.lut.fi/~vestman/ From mperry@lnxpowered.org Wed Aug 22 15:22:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mperry.lnxpowered.org (m206-45.dsl.tsoft.com [198.144.206.45]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88A9F4452 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 15:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mperry by mperry.lnxpowered.org with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15ZgS8-0008PY-00 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 15:26:24 -0700 Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 15:26:23 -0700 From: Michael Perry To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Lucent Silver 11mb, RG1000 Message-ID: <20010822152623.A32326@lnxpowered.org> Reply-To: mperry@lnxpowered.org References: <20010821103604.A26838@lnxpowered.org> <20010822122136.C28430@zax> <20010821214343.A28281@lnxpowered.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010821214343.A28281@lnxpowered.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i X-Operating-System: Linux/2.4.7 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Quoting Michael Perry on Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 09:43:43PM -0700: > Quoting David Gibson on Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 12:21:36PM +1000: > > > > Can you send the full output from "cardctl ident" and also check your > > logs (probably /var/log/messages) for any error messages from cardmgr. > > > > -- > > David Gibson | Microsoft: Making the easy things hard > > david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | and the hard things buggy > > http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson > > > > > Hi David- > > Here is the result of both commands on the laptop: > > speedy: cardctl ident --- > > Socket 0: > product info: "Lucent Technologies", "WaveLAN/IEEE", "Version 01.01", "" > manfid: 0x0156, 0x0002 > function: 6 (network) > Socket 1: > no product info available > Just as a followup to this. I got this problem solved thanks to Jean. He had me walk through my /etc/pcmcia/config file and sure enough, I had a rogue entry for the wavelan2_cs which I had not caught when I went through the file previously. The card now claims IRQ 7. - Michael Perry | "Do or do not; there is no try" Master Yoda mperry@lnxpowered.org | http://www.lnxpowered.org From david@gibson.dropbear.id.au Thu Aug 23 00:13:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from localhost (unknown [144.137.80.9]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E725A4227 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 00:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dgibson by localhost with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15ZojA-000243-00 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 17:16:32 +1000 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 17:16:32 +1000 From: David Gibson To: wireless@samba.org Subject: New testing version of orinoco driver Message-ID: <20010823171632.A7735@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@samba.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hi all. I've just made some updates to the orinoco driver which are available for test from: http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson/dldwd/testing This makes some changes which I hope will (finally) actually make a real difference to the "BAP error" problems that many people have seen. On the other hand I still don't have a really good handle on what causes the problem, so it's possible the changes will make things worse. Can people please test this version, and if it holds up I'll make a release and push the changes to Linus. For those who are interested: the change removes all retries from the hermes_bap_seek() function. Instead, in the Tx path, a BAP error simply results in a failed transmit which it is up to the upper layers to cope with - there is only a message if debugging is enabled. I think this should better mimic the behaviour of the *BSD driver which seems to handle these errors better than previous versions of the orinoco driver. In Rx, there is a retry, but the failure message again only appears if debugging is enabled - I'm hoping this won't be a big issue, BAP write errors seem to be much more common than BAP read errors. -- David Gibson | Microsoft: Making the easy things hard david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | and the hard things buggy http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From yeechuan+@cmu.edu Thu Aug 23 00:43:22 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from smtp6.andrew.cmu.edu (SMTP6.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.86]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140394846 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 00:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mcns86.docsis16.singa.pore.net (mcns86.docsis16.singa.pore.net [202.156.16.86]) (user=yloh mech=KERBEROS_V4 (0 bits)) by smtp6.andrew.cmu.edu (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16) with ESMTP id f7N7kd67002973; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 03:46:42 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 03:46:35 -0400 From: "Yee Chuan, Loh" Reply-To: "Yee Chuan, Loh" To: "Dominick, David" Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: AirSnort sniffing with Orinoco Gold cards Message-ID: <2105983138.998538395@mcns86.docsis16.singa.pore.net> Originator-Info: login-token=Mulberry:01jKml1QUVFD2eFy1b0yrVMh8JIAIX3R75HtM6wik=; token_authority=postmaster@andrew.cmu.edu X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ I was quite sure that AirSnort did not implement this form of passive sniffing and lookup, but rather did crack the encryption by retrieving the secret key. (implementation of the Adi Shamir paper, there was another implementation by some Rice Univ student I think, but the code was not put in public-domain) -----Original Message----- From: "Dominick, David" To: 'Jussi Vestman' , wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: AirSnort sniffing with Orinoco Gold cards Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:20:01 -0400 The level of encryption doesn't matter. WEP uses a public key and a shared key. The public key is transmitted clear text. All of the computers on the network use the same shared key. One example of a way to break the key is: Learn both the ciphertext and the plaintext for some packets encrypted with a given IV v. This is really easy if you know the plaintext, because, for example, you sent it , say via pings, or spam email! you can also do it passively by watching for collisions. Then you can easily determine the keystream RC4(k,v) by XORing the plaintext and the ciphertext. Note that you do not learn the value of the shared secret k. Now you store that keystream in a table, indexed by v. This table is at most 1500 * 2^24 bytes = 24 GB Fits on a single cheap disk The next time you see a packet with an IV stored in the table, you can just look up the keystream, XOR it against the packet, and read the data! AirSnort basically uses this premise to break the key without bothering to crack the encryption. From david@gibson.dropbear.id.au Thu Aug 23 00:51:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from localhost (unknown [144.137.80.9]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D23F4A53 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 00:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dgibson by localhost with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15ZpK0-0002IY-00 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 17:54:36 +1000 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 17:54:36 +1000 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Orinoco Ad-Hoc under Linux (2.4.6) Message-ID: <20010823175436.D7735@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <000b01c12955$c6d59690$9c42aec1@hhi.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000b01c12955$c6d59690$9c42aec1@hhi.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 10:54:52AM +0200, Herwig Schelauske wrote: > Hi, > > I try to set up a Ad-Hoc wireless connection (Peer-To-Peer) with 2 > Lucent Orinoco Silver PCMCIA-Cards (Variant 1, Version 4.00, Firmware > 4.00/7.52) under Linux between an StrongARM based board (Assabet) and my > notebook, using original Kernel 2.4.6 Hermes/Orinoco drivers. > > If I ping from Assabet to the notebook, I receive only LLC (Logic-Link > Control) packets at my notebook. Cause I have no tcpdump/Ethereal at the > Assabet, I only know what I'am receiving at the Notebook. 802.11 always uses 802.2 LLC, but the driver encapsulates/de-encapsulates the packets before presenting them to the network layer. From the dump below it looks like the driver on the Assabet is inserting two extra zero bytes between the 802.2 LLC and SNAP headers. My guess would be that this is due to some ARM specific alignment issue. > Pinging from notebook to Assabet, I sending out ICMP-packets (see > Ethereal log down, source and destination seems to be OK). ifconfig > shows increasing RX packets at Assabet, but isn't answering (TX doesn't > increase). Why that? Presumably the encapsulation fault which is causing the Assabet to send bogus packets is also causing it to not recoginize the incoming pings as pings. I suspect that on the ARM is aligning the dldwd_frame_hdr structure differently from the other platforms that have been tried (mostly x86 and ppc). That either means I've missed a ((packed)) attribute somewhere, or there is a gcc bug which means it is not properly honouring the ((packed)) attribute. -- David Gibson | Microsoft: Making the easy things hard david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | and the hard things buggy http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From jaakko.isomursu@kolumbus.fi Thu Aug 23 01:50:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from fep02-app.kolumbus.fi (fep02-0.kolumbus.fi [193.229.0.44]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BACD4A87 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 01:50:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hpyt4522 ([194.136.227.254]) by fep02-app.kolumbus.fi (InterMail vM.5.01.03.08 201-253-122-118-108-20010628) with SMTP id <20010823085421.LAHB24738.fep02-app.kolumbus.fi@hpyt4522> for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:54:21 +0300 Message-ID: <005501c12bb1$2de25d20$871e040a@hepunet.fi> From: "Jaakko Isomursu" To: Subject: Orinoco MAC address filtering Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:54:11 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Orinoco AP-1000 provides MAC address filtering as a additional security method. Is there any known way to bypass Orinoco's MAC address filtering for example by duplicating WLAN-cards MAC address? When WEP is allmost useless, would this provide some security? -- Jaakko Isomursu jaakko.isomursu@kolumbus.fi From Josh.Howlett@bristol.ac.uk Thu Aug 23 01:55:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E3647D2 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 01:55:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shark.cse.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:58:11 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shark.cse.bris.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id f7N8vvv18601; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:57:57 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:57:57 +0100 (BST) From: Josh Howlett X-Sender: bujfxh@shark.cse.bris.ac.uk To: Jaakko Isomursu Cc: wireless Subject: Re: Orinoco MAC address filtering In-Reply-To: <005501c12bb1$2de25d20$871e040a@hepunet.fi> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Jaakko Isomursu wrote: > Orinoco AP-1000 provides MAC address filtering as a additional security > method. > Is there any known way to bypass Orinoco's MAC address filtering for example > by duplicating WLAN-cards MAC address? This is trivial with linux. > When WEP is allmost useless, would this provide some security? None, sorry. josh. --------------------------------------- Josh Howlett, Network Supervisor, Networking & Digital Communications, Information Systems & Computing, University of Bristol, U.K. 0117 928 7850 | josh.howlett@bris.ac.uk --------------------------------------- From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Thu Aug 23 09:48:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A3EF560C for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:48:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id JAA28205 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:51:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id JAA12126 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:51:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15Zxhk-0006nw-00 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:51:40 -0700 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:51:40 -0700 To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re : Orinoco MAC address filtering Message-ID: <20010823095140.C26070@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Jaakko Isomursu wrote : > Orinoco AP-1000 provides MAC address filtering as a additional security > method. > Is there any known way to bypass Orinoco's MAC address filtering for example > by duplicating WLAN-cards MAC address? Yes, sniff network, collect MAC addresses, set in the driver. > When WEP is allmost useless, would this provide some security? If you want security : http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Wireless.html#security http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Linux.Wireless.usage.html#deploy Jean From jaakko.isomursu@kolumbus.fi Thu Aug 23 09:58:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from fep01-app.kolumbus.fi (fep01-0.kolumbus.fi [193.229.0.41]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 130E5435E for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:58:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hpyt4522 ([62.248.175.187]) by fep01-app.kolumbus.fi (InterMail vM.5.01.03.08 201-253-122-118-108-20010628) with SMTP id <20010823170221.PUED1519.fep01-app.kolumbus.fi@hpyt4522> for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:02:21 +0300 Message-ID: <001201c12bf5$5ac004c0$0301000a@hpyt4522> From: "Jaakko Isomursu" To: "Samba/Wavelan mailing list" References: <20010823095140.C26070@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Subject: Re: Orinoco MAC address filtering Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:02:12 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > Is there any known way to bypass Orinoco's MAC address filtering for example > > by duplicating WLAN-cards MAC address? > > Yes, sniff network, collect MAC addresses, set in the driver. The problem was, I didn't know that changing the MAC address was that easy in linux.. > > When WEP is allmost useless, would this provide some security? > > If you want security : > http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Wireless.html#security > http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Linux.Wireless.usage.ht ml#deploy Yes.. I'm plannng to use VPN, but I was wondering if this MAC address filtering is worth the trouble. Apparently not. -- Jaakko Isomursu jaakko.isomursu@kolumbus.fi From David.Dominick@delta.com Thu Aug 23 12:48:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from satlmsghub04.delta-air.com (dragonfire4.delta.com [205.174.22.24]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 796884BFB for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:48:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by satlmsghub04.delta-air.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 15:51:47 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Dominick, David" To: 'Jaakko Isomursu' , Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: RE: Orinoco MAC address filtering Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 15:51:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ if you are using orinoco access points with a radius server, it does add a little bit because the software addressable MAC will be ignored. Orinoco cards have 2 MAC addresses, the hardware one, and the software addressable. You can change the hardware one, but it is not as easy and does add a little (though MACs are always sent in clear text, so sniffing a valid one is very easy). -----Original Message----- From: Jaakko Isomursu [mailto:jaakko.isomursu@kolumbus.fi] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 1:02 PM To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: Orinoco MAC address filtering > > Is there any known way to bypass Orinoco's MAC address filtering for example > > by duplicating WLAN-cards MAC address? > > Yes, sniff network, collect MAC addresses, set in the driver. The problem was, I didn't know that changing the MAC address was that easy in linux.. > > When WEP is allmost useless, would this provide some security? > > If you want security : > http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Wireless.html#security > http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Linux.Wireless.usage.ht ml#deploy Yes.. I'm plannng to use VPN, but I was wondering if this MAC address filtering is worth the trouble. Apparently not. -- Jaakko Isomursu jaakko.isomursu@kolumbus.fi From david@gibson.dropbear.id.au Thu Aug 23 20:40:23 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from localhost (unknown [144.137.80.9]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D5F4134 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:40:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dgibson by localhost with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15a6wZ-0000GK-00 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 12:43:35 +1000 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 12:43:35 +1000 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Orinoco Ad-Hoc under Linux (2.4.6)\ Message-ID: <20010824124335.B790@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <000b01c12955$c6d59690$9c42aec1@hhi.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000b01c12955$c6d59690$9c42aec1@hhi.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 10:54:52AM +0200, Herwig Schelauske wrote: > Hi, > > I try to set up a Ad-Hoc wireless connection (Peer-To-Peer) with 2 > Lucent Orinoco Silver PCMCIA-Cards (Variant 1, Version 4.00, Firmware > 4.00/7.52) under Linux between an StrongARM based board (Assabet) and my > notebook, using original Kernel 2.4.6 Hermes/Orinoco drivers. > > If I ping from Assabet to the notebook, I receive only LLC (Logic-Link > Control) packets at my notebook. Cause I have no tcpdump/Ethereal at the > Assabet, I only know what I'am receiving at the Notebook. > > Pinging from notebook to Assabet, I sending out ICMP-packets (see > Ethereal log down, source and destination seems to be OK). ifconfig > shows increasing RX packets at Assabet, but isn't answering (TX doesn't > increase). Why that? Ok, as I said before this looks like an ARM alignment issue. I've made some tweaks to where I put the ((packed)) attributes, so could you test the new version of the driver from: http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson/dldwd/testing -- David Gibson | Microsoft: Making the easy things hard david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | and the hard things buggy http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From bje@air.net.au Sun Aug 26 18:08:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from mailhub.air.net.au (mailhub.air.net.au [203.52.201.202]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C3A4113 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 18:08:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mailhub.air.net.au (Postfix, from userid 501) id 108D32E19; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:12:03 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.air.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D3E42E17 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:12:03 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:12:03 +1000 (EST) From: Ben Elliston To: Subject: Lucent PCMCIA->PCI bridge and Linux 2.4 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ I just upgraded a system to Linux 2.4. The system has a Lucent PCMCIA->PCI bridge adapter and a Lucent Orinoco card installed in it. Now, the i82365.o kernel module refuses to load (I get "init_module: No such device"). Does anyone know the magic incantation to make the module detect the PCMCIA controller on these bridge boards? Thanks, Ben From paul@busnet.se Mon Aug 27 08:46:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from junior.busnet.se (busnet.se [213.141.78.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF6047AA for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 08:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from worker ([213.141.80.11]) by junior.busnet.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA22423 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 17:49:46 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Paul_Wis=E9n?= To: Subject: iwconfig core dumped ? Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 17:50:13 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ hi, again.. :) stuff seems to work here now but iconfig gives me something strange.. [root@vonanka wireless_tools.21]# iwconfig lo no wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. eth1 ORiNOCO ESSID:"banverket" Nickname:"vonanka.alvkarleby.net" Channel:11 Sensitivity:1/3 Mode:Ad-Hoc RTS thr:off Encryption key:off Link quality:0/92 Signal level:-102 dBm Noise level:-102 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:5 Segmentation fault (core dumped) ------ "Core dumped" ? why ? and "Link quality 0/92" but it works fine ??? I do also get: [root@vonanka wireless_tools.21]# make all gcc -O2 -Wall -DGLIBC22_HEADERS -c iwconfig.c In file included from iwconfig.c:13: iwcommon.h:214:2: warning: #warning "Wireless Extension v11 recommended...You may update your kernel and/or system headers to get the new features..." Ok, on http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Tools.html#latest you can read: iwconfig crashes after displaying valid info... Do cp /usr/src/linux/include/linux/wireless.h /usr/include/linux Recompile and reinstall the wireless tools done that... still no change.. iwconfig complain that the card/device uses a different version of Wireless Extensions Do cp /usr/src/linux/include/linux/wireless.h /usr/include/linux Recompile and reinstall the wireless tools If you still have this message after this, your driver need fixing... done that.. Im using the latest driver from lucent now.. does it really need fixing ? When compiling the Wireless Tools, it recommends to update my kernel and/or system headers If you don't have any of behaviours decribed in the two questions above (crash/message at runtime), you are fine... Don't worry... If you are on the adventurous side, you may update the kernel and the system header with the copy in the Wireless Extension package. However, some drivers may not cope with that... .. where do I find the latest kernel headers if the one's in kernel 2.4.7 or redhat 7.1 doesn't work ? still can't see what to do. Should I try some new kernel headers or ?? I have kernel 2.4.7 dual p3 400 redhat 7.1 pcmcia_cs 3.1.28 dual lucent orinoco silver pcmcia cards with firmware 7.52 dual pci-pcmcia adapters anybody ? :) / Paul From paul@busnet.se Mon Aug 27 09:07:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from junior.busnet.se (busnet.se [213.141.78.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7294E23 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:06:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from worker ([213.141.80.11]) by junior.busnet.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA22633 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:10:10 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Paul_Wis=E9n?= To: Subject: iwconfig err ... Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:10:38 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ err.. I don't know what I did.. got rid of "core dumped" anyway.. now it's just the "Warning : Device eth1 has been compiled with version 0 of Wireless Extension, while we are using version 11. Some things may be broken..." left.. and the fact that I do not get any information on link quality and so on.. new kernel headers ? ( where do I find them ?? ) ?? regards / Paul in a rainy sweden ref: [root@vonanka linux]# iwconfig lo no wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. Warning : Device eth1 has been compiled with version 0 of Wireless Extension, while we are using version 11. Some things may be broken... eth1 ORiNOCO ESSID:"banverket" Nickname:"vonanka.alvkarleby.net" Mode:Ad-Hoc Channel:11 Sensitivity:1/3 RTS thr:off Encryption key:off Link Quality:0/92 Signal level:-102 dBm Noise level:-102 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:12 Warning : Device eth2 has been compiled with version 0 of Wireless Extension, while we are using version 11. Some things may be broken... eth2 ORiNOCO ESSID:"vattenfall" Nickname:"vonanka.alvkarleby.net" Mode:Ad-Hoc Channel:13 Sensitivity:1/3 RTS thr:off Encryption key:off Link Quality:0/92 Signal level:-102 dBm Noise level:-102 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 From jonesmb@arthem.com Mon Aug 27 09:48:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail01d.rapidsite.net (mail01d.rapidsite.net [207.158.192.52]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0CC6F44FF for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:48:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.arthem.com (209.238.115.243) by mail01d.rapidsite.net (RS ver 1.0.60s) with SMTP id 061844175 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:39:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010827113021.00ad2e30@arthem.com> X-Sender: jonesmb@arthem.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:30:21 -0500 To: From: JonesMB Subject: Re: iwconfig core dumped ? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Loop-Detect: 1 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ the same thing (core dump) happened to me when I was using an old version of iwconfig with my just-upgraded kernel (2.2.17 -> 2.4.7). The problem went away after I upgraded to the latest version of iwconfig. jmb >hi, again.. :) > >stuff seems to work here now but iconfig gives me something strange.. > >[root@vonanka wireless_tools.21]# iwconfig >lo no wireless extensions. > >eth0 no wireless extensions. > >eth1 ORiNOCO ESSID:"banverket" Nickname:"vonanka.alvkarleby.net" > Channel:11 Sensitivity:1/3 Mode:Ad-Hoc > RTS thr:off > Encryption key:off > Link quality:0/92 Signal level:-102 dBm Noise level:-102 dBm > Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:5 > >Segmentation fault (core dumped) From dragonsfire@lineone.net Mon Aug 27 10:29:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.worldonline.com (mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.worldonline.com [212.74.112.71]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7AEB4E50 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host62-6-93-249.dialup.lineone.co.uk ([62.6.93.249]) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.worldonline.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #3) id 15bQ3R-000KZ2-00 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:20:05 +0100 Subject: Orinoco bridge/routing From: Phil To: wireless@lists.samba.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/0.12.99+cvs.2001.08.21.23.41 (Preview Release) Date: 27 Aug 2001 18:21:27 +0100 Message-Id: <998932887.1143.11.camel@spooky.node0.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hullo all I am shortly going to attempt connecting two LAN's together using two silver Orinoco cards and Linux to route. Simple question is has anyone done this before, and did it work? :) There is no need for me to get an AP, because this is the only wireless connection we'll be using for the moment. -Phil From daniel.hertrich@gmx.de Mon Aug 27 10:35:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 03E914258 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 31003 invoked by uid 0); 27 Aug 2001 17:38:49 -0000 Received: from pd9501ffd.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (HELO gmx.de) (217.80.31.253) by mail.gmx.net (mp007-rz3) with SMTP; 27 Aug 2001 17:38:49 -0000 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 19:38:23 +0200 From: Daniel Hertrich To: Subject: Re: Lucent PCMCIA->PCI bridge and Linux 2.4 X-Mailer: POST/LX 3.1a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010827173537.03E914258@lists.samba.org> Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hi list, On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:12:03 +1000 (EST), Ben Elliston wrote: > I just upgraded a system to Linux 2.4. The system has a Lucent PCMCIA->PCI > bridge adapter and a Lucent Orinoco card installed in it. Now, the i82365.o > kernel module refuses to load (I get "init_module: No such device"). I get a similar error on my HP Omnibook 800CT: Here the module ds.o refuses to load, because "init_module failed" or something like that. WIll look into it in more detail when I'm at home again. An externel PCMCIA package works, but I have to use the kernel-one, because I need the orinoco_cs driver. Same settings, same hardware, only another ds.o and it doesn't work. :-( Any ideas? GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Mon Aug 27 10:58:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F33A44FF for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id LAA14017; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:01:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id LAA28141; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15bQhJ-0007kr-00; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:01:17 -0700 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:01:17 -0700 To: paul@busnet.se, Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re : iwconfig core dumped ? Message-ID: <20010827110117.H29638@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Paul Wisén wrote : > > and "Link quality 0/92" but it works fine ??? If you want valid number in *ad-hoc* mode, please read the driver release notes. It's normal for the driver to report that in this case. > iwconfig crashes after displaying valid info... > Do cp /usr/src/linux/include/linux/wireless.h /usr/include/linux > Recompile and reinstall the wireless tools > > done that... still no change.. So, it must be your kernel modules which are out of date. Are you sure the wireless.h come from the kernel and the modules you are using ? > done that.. Im using the latest driver from lucent now.. does it really need > fixing ? Never used that driver, so I don't know. Jean From paul@busnet.se Mon Aug 27 14:11:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from junior.busnet.se (busnet.se [213.141.78.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60FCF4EA9 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:11:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from worker ([213.141.80.11]) by junior.busnet.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA24371; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:14:21 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Paul_Wis=E9n?= To: Cc: "Samba/Wavelan mailing list" Subject: Re: Re : iwconfig core dumped ? Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:14:46 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20010827110117.H29638@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ > Paul Wisén wrote : > > > > and "Link quality 0/92" but it works fine ??? > > If you want valid number in *ad-hoc* mode, please read the > driver release notes. It's normal for the driver to report that in > this case. I wonder why and if there's anything i could do about it. So it's not wrong kernel headers then, or wrong version of wireless extensions ? I'm trying to use it to do a point to point jump between two boxes. The distance is about 7 km so there would be a good thing if I could monitor the link quality. Is there any better mode to do it with ? Any suggestions ? > > done that.. Im using the latest driver from lucent now.. does > it really need > > fixing ? > > Never used that driver, so I don't know. well I've been spending weeks with a wvlan_cs driver who restarts every 10th seconds under load, and a orinoco_cs who I can't get to work at all. David Gibson is working with it I think. The thought to use the standard driver from lucent never occurd to me until today and, for some reason, that works . The driver has been running without problems in 6 hours now ! We'll see if it lasts ower the night.. It's just the link quality problem left now, and that, i'm gonna read about in the driver release notes.. :] > > Jean > /* Paul From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Mon Aug 27 14:16:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72AF74112 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:16:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id OAA27729; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:19:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id OAA13141; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:19:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15bTmv-0007pg-00; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:19:17 -0700 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:19:17 -0700 To: Paul Wis?n Cc: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: Re : iwconfig core dumped ? Message-ID: <20010827141917.D30010@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com References: <20010827110117.H29638@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from paul@busnet.se on Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 11:14:46PM +0200 Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 11:14:46PM +0200, Paul Wis?n wrote: > > Paul Wisén wrote : > > > > > > and "Link quality 0/92" but it works fine ??? > > > > If you want valid number in *ad-hoc* mode, please read the > > driver release notes. It's normal for the driver to report that in > > this case. > > I wonder why and if there's anything i could do about it. > So it's not wrong kernel headers then, or wrong version of wireless > extensions ? > I'm trying to use it to do a point to point jump between two boxes. > The distance is about 7 km so there would be a good thing if I could monitor > the link quality. Is there any better mode to do it with ? Any suggestions ? Wireless Extensions can do that, no problem. > > > done that.. Im using the latest driver from lucent now.. does > > it really need > > > fixing ? > > > > Never used that driver, so I don't know. > > well I've been spending weeks with a wvlan_cs driver who restarts every 10th > seconds under load, and a orinoco_cs who I can't get to work at all. David > Gibson is working with it I think. The thought to use the standard driver > from lucent never occurd to me until today and, for some reason, that works > . The driver has been running without problems in 6 hours now ! We'll see if > it lasts ower the night.. If it works for you, then it's fine. If I remember, the latest driver from Lucent start to have pretty decent support for Wireless Extensions. > It's just the link quality problem left now, and that, i'm gonna read about > in the driver release notes.. :] Hum, I guess it's probably not mentionned in the Lucent release notes. Try that : http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Orinoco.html http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Wavelan-IEEE.html Regards, Jean From paul@busnet.se Mon Aug 27 14:18:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from junior.busnet.se (busnet.se [213.141.78.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F25314CAE for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:18:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from worker ([213.141.80.11]) by junior.busnet.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA24419; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:21:07 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Paul_Wis=E9n?= To: "Phil" Cc: Subject: SV: Orinoco bridge/routing Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:21:32 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <998932887.1143.11.camel@spooky.node0.lan> Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ If the two lan's are on different ip networks, its easy, do routing. If it's the same ip network its a bit more complicated but still doable, do proxy-arp. forget bridging.. been there, done that, got the t-shirt.. doesn't work.. (due to limitations in the card firmware(or something like that..) ) / Paul > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Från: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org > [mailto:wireless-admin@lists.samba.org]För Phil > Skickat: den 27 augusti 2001 19:21 > Till: wireless@lists.samba.org > Ämne: Orinoco bridge/routing > > > > Hullo all > > I am shortly going to attempt connecting two LAN's together using two > silver Orinoco cards and Linux to route. Simple question is has anyone > done this before, and did it work? :) > > There is no need for me to get an AP, because this is the only wireless > connection we'll be using for the moment. > > -Phil > > > > From bzeeb+wireless@zabbadoz.net Mon Aug 27 15:50:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.zabbadoz.net (mail.zabbadoz.net [195.2.176.194]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E631D40C5 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:50:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bz@localhost) by mail.zabbadoz.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f7RMrqT02900; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 00:53:52 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 00:53:52 +0200 (CEST) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" X-Sender: To: Cc: Steven Hanley Subject: Re: netgear cards? In-Reply-To: <20010814170048.A12903@shiva.marian> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Steven Hanley wrote: > Earlier on this list someone noticed netgear 802.11b netgear equipment being > sold at harveynorman for somewhat inflated prices. I notice Cougar now has > that same hardware available for a much better price. > > However I am unable to find mention on this list or on > http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux of netgear. I am > wondering if anyone knows if this stuff works in linux? Is it something nice > like simply a rebadged Cisco Aironet card or Lucent Orinoco card? Hi, sorry for that late answer but by fluke it happened that I got a NETGEAR MA401 in my hands this evening. From what I got in logging Aug 27 22:01:18 accu cardmgr[3599]: initializing socket 1 Aug 27 22:01:18 accu cardmgr[3599]: unsupported card in socket 1 Aug 27 22:01:18 accu cardmgr[3599]: product info: "NETGEAR MA401 Wireless PC", "Card", "Version 01.00", "" Aug 27 22:01:18 accu cardmgr[3599]: manfid: 0x0156, 0x0002 function: 6 (network) I just added following to /etc/pcmcia/config card "NETGEAR MA401 Wireless PC" manfid 0x0156, 0x0002 bind "orinoco_cs" and everything was fine. Performance was not the best but I couldn't really test this there. iwconfig reported 11Mbit/s. redhat 7.latest p.ex should work out of the box even if beeps from cardmgr suggest that there was no card found (that's what I was told by my friend). PS: I don't know if this is the right solution but at least it seems to work. -- Bjoern A. Zeeb bzeeb at Zabbadoz dot NeT 56 69 73 69 74 http://www.zabbadoz.net/ From bje@air.net.au Mon Aug 27 16:24:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from mailhub.air.net.au (mailhub.air.net.au [203.52.201.202]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52AAD44DD for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mailhub.air.net.au (Postfix, from userid 501) id 951C22E19; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 09:27:52 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.air.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3A62E17 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 09:27:52 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 09:27:52 +1000 (EST) From: Ben Elliston To: Subject: wireless access points Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Are Apple Airports the cheapest way to go for an 802.11 access point? Apple's web pages list them for $699 -- can they be purchased cheaper elsewhere? Ben From Robert.Edwards@anu.edu.au Mon Aug 27 16:58:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from cs.anu.edu.au (cs.anu.edu.au [150.203.164.35]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C757A4AB1 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from anu.edu.au (tux [150.203.160.12]) by cs.anu.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13384; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:01:51 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3B8ADF60.FCD3FC39@anu.edu.au> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:01:36 +1000 From: Bob Edwards Organization: Australian National University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Elliston Cc: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: wireless access points References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Ben Elliston wrote: > > Are Apple Airports the cheapest way to go for an 802.11 access point? > Apple's web pages list them for $699 -- can they be purchased cheaper > elsewhere? > > Ben Don't know about the cheapest - probably are. We just bought two more at work for $585 (university pricing - no GST). btw. I bought the first one in Canberra almost 2 years ago for $460. They certainly work well enough and are a neat little unit made by a reputable manufacturer - I don't think you can really go wrong with them. I believe that the Lucent RG-1000 is almost the same unit, but at almost $1000 in these 'ere parts. Cheers, Bob Edwards. From david@gibson.dropbear.id.au Mon Aug 27 19:10:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from localhost (unknown [144.137.81.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A584634 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 19:10:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dgibson by localhost with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15bYNv-0000mT-00 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:13:47 +1000 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:13:47 +1000 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: netgear cards? Message-ID: <20010828121347.D858@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <20010814170048.A12903@shiva.marian> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 12:53:52AM +0200, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Steven Hanley wrote: > > > Earlier on this list someone noticed netgear 802.11b netgear equipment being > > sold at harveynorman for somewhat inflated prices. I notice Cougar now has > > that same hardware available for a much better price. > > > > However I am unable to find mention on this list or on > > http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux of netgear. I am > > wondering if anyone knows if this stuff works in linux? Is it something nice > > like simply a rebadged Cisco Aironet card or Lucent Orinoco card? > > Hi, > > sorry for that late answer but by fluke it happened that I got a > NETGEAR MA401 in my hands this evening. > > >From what I got in logging > > Aug 27 22:01:18 accu cardmgr[3599]: initializing socket 1 > Aug 27 22:01:18 accu cardmgr[3599]: unsupported card in socket 1 > Aug 27 22:01:18 accu cardmgr[3599]: product info: "NETGEAR MA401 Wireless PC", "Card", "Version 01.00", "" > Aug 27 22:01:18 accu cardmgr[3599]: manfid: 0x0156, 0x0002 function: 6 (network) > > I just added following to /etc/pcmcia/config > > card "NETGEAR MA401 Wireless PC" > manfid 0x0156, 0x0002 > bind "orinoco_cs" > > and everything was fine. Performance was not the best but I couldn't > really test this there. iwconfig reported 11Mbit/s. Looks like yet another Prism II based card, with Intersil firmware. Could you send the output of "dmesg" immediately after inserting the card - that will give me some more information about it. -- David Gibson | Microsoft: Making the easy things hard david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | and the hard things buggy http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From holden@netspace.net.au Mon Aug 27 19:21:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from whirlwind.netspace.net.au (whirlwind.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.76]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACC04100 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 19:21:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netspace.net.au ([210.15.194.42]) by whirlwind.netspace.net.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f7S2Ouf07193 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:24:57 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3B8B011F.43C186CD@netspace.net.au> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:25:36 +1000 From: Michael Borthwick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@samba.org Subject: 'Parasitic grid' wireless movement may threaten telecom profits References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ 'Parasitic grid' wireless movement may threaten telecom profits http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/01/08/24/010824hnfreewireless.xml?0 From sjh@svana.org Mon Aug 27 19:50:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1325E45DF for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 19:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from okda.anu.edu.au (shiva.marian) [150.203.160.23] by svana.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15bZ1R-0000kD-00; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:54:37 +1000 Received: from sjh by shiva.marian with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15bZ1c-00050Q-00 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:54:48 +1000 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:54:48 +1000 From: Steven Hanley To: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: wireless access points Message-ID: <20010828125446.A19225@shiva.marian> Reply-To: Steven Hanley References: <3B8ADF60.FCD3FC39@anu.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3B8ADF60.FCD3FC39@anu.edu.au> User-Agent: Some Random Email Client Organization: much sought in this hectic world Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 10:01:36AM +1000, Bob Edwards wrote: > Ben Elliston wrote: > > > > Are Apple Airports the cheapest way to go for an 802.11 access point? > > Apple's web pages list them for $699 -- can they be purchased cheaper > > elsewhere? > > > > Ben > > Don't know about the cheapest - probably are. We just bought two more at > work for $585 (university pricing - no GST). btw. I bought the first one in > Canberra almost 2 years ago for $460. > > They certainly work well enough and are a neat little unit made by a > reputable manufacturer - I don't think you can really go wrong with them. > I believe that the Lucent RG-1000 is almost the same unit, but at almost > $1000 in these 'ere parts. and the price sticker on the airport boxes is 695, this is bought from the apple centre at ANU, approved systems and their apple shopfront at woden mall will also sell them possibly cheaper than apple's website. (I bought my airport card for my powerbook at the beginning of the year for $180 rather than the $200 the apple website sold them for at a local apple dealership (one of the buzz centres)) Ring up the approved shop front (apple centre) at woden and ask maybe. See You Steve -- sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh Look Up In The Sky Is it a bird? No Is it a plane No Is it a small blue banana? Yes From mark@innaloo.net Mon Aug 27 20:25:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from mail.eftel.com (sv4.per.eftel.com [203.24.100.149]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06CEC4F26 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 20:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc-mark.innaloo.net (staff-gw.eftel.com.au [203.16.9.138]) by mail.eftel.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE07F1768D for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 11:28:43 +0800 (WST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20010828113037.00cc2f00@mail.innaloo.net> X-Sender: digger@mail.innaloo.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 11:31:09 +0800 To: wireless@samba.org From: Mark Dignam Subject: Re: wireless access points Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ At 09:27 AM 8/28/01 +1000, you wrote: >Are Apple Airports the cheapest way to go for an 802.11 access point? >Apple's web pages list them for $699 -- can they be purchased cheaper >elsewhere? For something thats easily hackable to feed power up the ethernet lead, stick in a waterproof box and stick up a mast, you can't beat 'em for the price. dig. From kleptog@svana.org Mon Aug 27 20:29:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518FF4F38 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 20:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15bZcu-0000lH-00; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:33:20 +1000 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:33:20 +1000 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: Paul Wis?n Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: iwconfig core dumped ? Message-ID: <20010828133320.B2731@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from paul@busnet.se on Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 05:50:13PM +0200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 05:50:13PM +0200, Paul Wis?n wrote: > hi, again.. :) > > Segmentation fault (core dumped) Nothing to worry about. Just a slight incompatability between the kernel version and the iwconfig version. Does break anything as far as I know. Odd that you can't make it go away though... -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > It would be nice if someone came up with a certification system that > actually separated those who can barely regurgitate what they crammed over > the last few weeks from those who command secret ninja networking powers. From daniel.hertrich@gmx.de Mon Aug 27 22:12:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F265C4118 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 22:12:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 32335 invoked by uid 0); 28 Aug 2001 05:16:05 -0000 Received: from pd9501ff3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (HELO gmx.de) (217.80.31.243) by mail.gmx.net (mp005-rz3) with SMTP; 28 Aug 2001 05:16:05 -0000 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 07:15:39 +0200 From: Daniel Hertrich To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: orinoco_cs and BAP errors X-Mailer: POST/LX 3.1a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010828051255.F265C4118@lists.samba.org> Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hi list, Dave Gibson posted here a few days ago that there are new sources for orinoco_cs which should avoid the BAP problems (Error x writing packet header to BAP). With the pcmcia-3.1.28 package patched by SuSE (which I mentioned in me other posting), which now includes also the orinoco_cs, I don't get these errors on my desktop machine when inserting my ZoomAir 4100 PrismII card. The Desktop uses a Databook TCIC PCMCIA chipset. But on my HP Omnibook 800CT (Inter PCMCIA chipset) I get these errors, where the number x is either -110 or -16, alternating. When I now take the new files from dave's site (I only took the orinoco* and hermes* ones), compile the pcmcia package anew and install the modules, I still get these errors, but this time more x=-16 and only one x=-110, and all of them in one line, approximately 20 times "omnibook kernel: eth0: Error -16 writing packet header to BAP<3>eth0: Error -16 writing pakcet header to BAP<3>Error -16 writing....." Additionally I am not able to use the card! I hae set up everything for Ad-Hoc-Mode, on the desktop iwconfig even says "Ad-Hoc", but on the Omnibook, iwconfig still says "managed" and the card LED blinks. :-( Any ideas? Thanks a lot daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact From daniel.hertrich@gmx.de Mon Aug 27 22:12:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE1724179 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 22:12:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 32358 invoked by uid 0); 28 Aug 2001 05:16:06 -0000 Received: from pd9501ff3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (HELO gmx.de) (217.80.31.243) by mail.gmx.net (mp005-rz3) with SMTP; 28 Aug 2001 05:16:06 -0000 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 07:15:41 +0200 From: Daniel Hertrich To: Subject: Re: pcmcia /orinoco - compiling (VALID FOR SuSE ONLY!) X-Mailer: POST/LX 3.1a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010828051257.EE1724179@lists.samba.org> Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hi Andrew, On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 09:08:00 +0200, "Andrew Smart" wrote: > I stepped up from the 2.2 - kernel to the 2.4.4-4GB kernel (SuSe 7.2) > because I wanted the orinoco-drivers for my WLAN cards (orinoco-OEMs). I > tried to compile it and got in problems (headers not found), I said, ok, > maybe its the pcmcia-package then I downloaded the latest version for pcmcia > (3.1.28) and tried to compile it and it didn't work (I got a error message > that I shouldn't include header files from the kernel directly but throu a > symbolic link, I did it, now I get compiler errors that some asm/rw*.h - > files are not found). I also run into similar problems compiling vanilla pcmcia packages under SuSE 7.2 (Kernel 2.4.7 now). SuSE now offers new (SuSE-patched) PCMCIA pacgages, as source RPMs and as compiled modules. I did the following: stopped pcmcia rcpcmcia stop disabled PCMCIA in the kernel, compiled a new one, deleted the modules directory before doing a make modules_install (Mr. Zoz said that it isn't necessary anymore to disable kernel*pcmcia, you can now have both in parallel, but I can't say for sure if my next steps would also have worked if internal pcmcia had been enabled) downloaded frp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/zoz/pcmcia/experimental/pcmcia-3.1.28-6.src.rpm (URL could be slightly wrong, In don't remember exactly) then: rpm -Uhv pcmcia-3.1.28-6.src.rpm (this creates new files in /usr/src/packages/SPEC, and .../SOURCE) rpm -ba /usr/src/packages/SPECS/pcmcia.spec (this one cconfigures and compiles the pcmcia package from all the installed tar.gzs) Now the compiled modules are in /var/tmp/pcmcia-root/lib/modules//pcmcia-external/* copy them to /lib/modules//pcmcia cp -rv /var/tmp/...../pcmcia-external/* /lib/modules/.../pcmcia run a depmod -a and start pcmcia anew rcpcmcia start Maybe your /etc/pcmcia/config and *.conf files have to be ajdusted now (don'T know if the above rpm call overwrites the old ones, maybe make a backup before.) Hope this helps daniel P.S.: If you want to recompile the modules (after a modification of a source file for example), do that by going to cd /usr/src/packages/BUILD/pcmcia-cs-3.1.28 modify the source files here (e.g. orinoco_cs is in clients/) and do a make clean make all make install Then the new modules are in /var/tmp/pcmcia-root again as described above. -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact From iain@minihub.org Mon Aug 27 22:35:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from spoke.minihub.org (spoke.minihub.org [203.14.165.194]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD17B435B for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 22:35:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 31693 invoked by uid 64014); 28 Aug 2001 05:38:05 -0000 Received: from iain@minihub.org by spoke with qmail-scanner-0.96 (uvscan: v4.1.40/v4150. . Clean. Processed in 0.819335 secs); 28 Aug 2001 05:38:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jackal.minihub.org) (61.9.165.226) by spoke.minihub.org with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP; 28 Aug 2001 05:38:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 1192 invoked from network); 28 Aug 2001 05:35:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO there) (127.0.0.1) by jackal.minihub.org with SMTP; 28 Aug 2001 05:35:58 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Iain To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: card that does everything? :) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 15:35:21 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010828053500.BD17B435B@lists.samba.org> Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, I am after a card that is 802.11b complient, works in ad hoc mode under linux, can sniff WEP packets, has a jack for an external antenna and does 11Mbs. Oh yeah, I also want it to be cheap! - From what I understand, if I want to sniff WEP packets I need a card with the PrismII chipset. The hard thing seems to be finding out which cards support an external antenna and which cards are fully standards compliant in ad-hoc mode. - From the ZoomAir website it looks like the 4105 supports an antenna but the 4100 doesn't. But the 4105 is a PCI card. The compaq website doesn't mention anything about connecting external antennas. I also found the Wireless howto a bit confusing when it says "Compaq (rumored to be selling a rebadged Samsung card - on the other hand, the WL 110, WL 210 and WL 215 are Orinoco cards)". Does this mean these cards don't have the PrismII chipset? I can't find any other compaq cards. The DLINK DWL-650 website mentions an "internal patch antenna supporting diversity". Not sure what this means. any help would be appreciated, thanks Iain. - -- public key available at http://www.minihub.org/~iain/iain.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQCVAwUBO4stnXB3CLKSj5xxAQE09gQAvTfpMj/4ZEaKLrKoUf8frZCimi3oOR6A q9BhD7Ny05/dP0er2SOFKNBAl2R2b7PV9D9hgPZKGwyzuPBdgZtPedGsvFcuzJnP RdtgTCPlyhgs++0edUwmS1X5HS9SOLJmFwS45OBNOHuhdMmoSbmDyBqNdFmE2MiX uMx2UHnvSD8= =z9zF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From bzeeb+wireless@zabbadoz.net Mon Aug 27 23:43:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.zabbadoz.net (mail.zabbadoz.net [195.2.176.194]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C03D4407 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:43:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bz@localhost) by mail.zabbadoz.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f7S6kp716208; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 08:46:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 08:46:51 +0200 (CEST) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" X-Sender: To: David Gibson Cc: Subject: Re: netgear cards? In-Reply-To: <20010828121347.D858@zax> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, David Gibson wrote: > > I just added following to /etc/pcmcia/config > > > > card "NETGEAR MA401 Wireless PC" > > manfid 0x0156, 0x0002 > > bind "orinoco_cs" > > > > and everything was fine. Performance was not the best but I couldn't > > really test this there. iwconfig reported 11Mbit/s. > > Looks like yet another Prism II based card, with Intersil firmware. > Could you send the output of "dmesg" immediately after inserting the > card - that will give me some more information about it. Hi, I do not have the card anymore but I lukily hadn't rebooted since then ;) I think this should be the correct dmesg lines hermes.c: 12 Dec 2000 David Gibson orinoco.c 0.06c (David Gibson and others) dldwd: David's Less Dodgy WaveLAN/IEEE Driver eth1: Firmware ID 1F vendor 0x3 (Samsung) version 0.08 eth1: Ad-hoc demo mode supported. eth1: MAC address 00:30:AB:09:6X:XX eth1: Station name "Prism I" eth1: ready eth1: index 0x01: Vcc 5.0, irq 5, io 0x0100-0x013f eth1: no IPv6 routers present I also poked around with following kernel patch but I do not think that's the correct solution because it looks like also other vendors (at least D-Link DWL-650, also Lucent(?)) are on this manfid (?). --- ./linux/include/pcmcia/ciscode.h.orig Mon Aug 27 23:03:21 2001 +++ ./linux/include/pcmcia/ciscode.h Mon Aug 27 23:08:01 2001 @@ -123,4 +123,7 @@ #define MANFID_XIRCOM 0x0105 +#define MANFID_NETGEAR 0x0156 +#define PRODOD_NETGEAR_MA401 0x0002 + #endif /* _LINUX_CISCODE_H */ -- Bjoern A. Zeeb bzeeb at Zabbadoz dot NeT 56 69 73 69 74 http://www.zabbadoz.net/ From jas@pcguru.com.au Tue Aug 28 03:52:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from grunt.pcguru.com.au (unknown [203.59.228.98]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F06A54C93 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 03:52:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pcguru.com.au (swami.pcguru.com.au [192.168.0.2]) by grunt.pcguru.com.au (8.11.2/8.11.4/dsb-1.0) with SMTP id f7SAu2E06023 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 18:56:05 +0800 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 18:55:55 +0800 From: Jason Jordan To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: New W.A. Wireless users Message-Id: <20010828185555.1383c56e.jas@pcguru.com.au> Organization: Ray Martin has odd hair. I suspect Aliens are somehow involved. X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.5.3claws1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; ) X-Face: )]tS!&`e.~o!,%E7v0,FVAfelGLC=^Q=m,2zK@>_6Fh1h"eQz~~}Xt,@H(Kw|_"UmH#SZ4O?6d8\EDfl?k=j4`*;F%Zt(9YT X-message-flag: Fatal Error. Please reboot your system. X-Todays-Stupid-InJoke: All Your Base Are Belong To Us X-Pre-Empt-Wife-Yes-Dear: Put the Cheese Away Jason Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Howdy, A group of us in WA have decided to get into the wireless scene. We've sourced some old Galaxy antennas and we're eager to get started - but don't want to reinvent the wheel! Is there a FAQ or web page where the list keeps information that keeps getting asked? We'd like to know what the "best" gear is in terms of capability and cost-effectiveness. We'd like to go Point-to-Point initially, but once we've achieved that we're looking to get a real network happening. One of our members lives on the Darling Scarp with LOS to most of the Perth Metro area. Ultimately, we'd like to get him working as a hub. I have seen some Australian sites like www.x.net.au - but was hoping for slightly more up to date information. -- Cheers, jas From David.Dominick@delta.com Tue Aug 28 06:36:22 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from satlmsghub04.delta-air.com (dragonfire4.delta.com [205.174.22.24]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C7F4130 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 06:36:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by satlmsghub04.delta-air.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 09:39:31 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Dominick, David" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: card that does everything? :) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 09:39:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ you need the prism II chipset only if you are going to use one of the prebuilt programs. If you can write the algorithm yourself, then any card that you can put in monitor mode (i.e., Cisco, symbol, etc etc). The problem is that I do not know of any of these that have an external antenna. You might try the linksys. The dlink card does not have an antenna (at least not the one I am using. This is a problem that I have been running into a lot myself. The cards that work best in monitor mode also have the shortest range. -----Original Message----- From: Iain [mailto:iain@minihub.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 1:35 AM To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: card that does everything? :) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, I am after a card that is 802.11b complient, works in ad hoc mode under linux, can sniff WEP packets, has a jack for an external antenna and does 11Mbs. Oh yeah, I also want it to be cheap! - From what I understand, if I want to sniff WEP packets I need a card with the PrismII chipset. The hard thing seems to be finding out which cards support an external antenna and which cards are fully standards compliant in ad-hoc mode. - From the ZoomAir website it looks like the 4105 supports an antenna but the 4100 doesn't. But the 4105 is a PCI card. The compaq website doesn't mention anything about connecting external antennas. I also found the Wireless howto a bit confusing when it says "Compaq (rumored to be selling a rebadged Samsung card - on the other hand, the WL 110, WL 210 and WL 215 are Orinoco cards)". Does this mean these cards don't have the PrismII chipset? I can't find any other compaq cards. The DLINK DWL-650 website mentions an "internal patch antenna supporting diversity". Not sure what this means. any help would be appreciated, thanks Iain. - -- public key available at http://www.minihub.org/~iain/iain.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQCVAwUBO4stnXB3CLKSj5xxAQE09gQAvTfpMj/4ZEaKLrKoUf8frZCimi3oOR6A q9BhD7Ny05/dP0er2SOFKNBAl2R2b7PV9D9hgPZKGwyzuPBdgZtPedGsvFcuzJnP RdtgTCPlyhgs++0edUwmS1X5HS9SOLJmFwS45OBNOHuhdMmoSbmDyBqNdFmE2MiX uMx2UHnvSD8= =z9zF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From David.Dominick@delta.com Tue Aug 28 06:38:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from satlmsghub03.delta-air.com (dragonfire1.delta.com [205.174.22.20]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9549D4272 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 06:38:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by satlmsghub03.delta-air.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 09:52:35 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Dominick, David" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=27Paul_Wis=E9n=27?= , Phil Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: Orinoco bridge/routing Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 09:41:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ to do the bridging, you need the firmware patch: Outdoor Router. This = is not free, but works very well. -----Original Message----- From: Paul Wis=E9n [mailto:paul@busnet.se] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 5:22 PM To: Phil Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: SV: Orinoco bridge/routing If the two lan's are on different ip networks, its easy, do routing. If it's the same ip network its a bit more complicated but still = doable, do proxy-arp. forget bridging.. been there, done that, got the t-shirt.. doesn't = work.. (due to limitations in the card firmware(or something like that..) ) / Paul > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Fr=E5n: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org > [mailto:wireless-admin@lists.samba.org]F=F6r Phil > Skickat: den 27 augusti 2001 19:21 > Till: wireless@lists.samba.org > =C4mne: Orinoco bridge/routing > > > > Hullo all > > I am shortly going to attempt connecting two LAN's together using two > silver Orinoco cards and Linux to route. Simple question is has = anyone > done this before, and did it work? :) > > There is no need for me to get an AP, because this is the only = wireless > connection we'll be using for the moment. > > -Phil > > > > From ynli@research.att.com Tue Aug 28 07:36:32 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail-blue.research.att.com (mail-blue.research.att.com [135.207.30.102]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E228B434F for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 07:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from surfcity.research.att.com (surfcity.research.att.com [135.207.128.5]) by mail-blue.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 102C14CF09 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:39:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from research.att.com ([135.207.132.55]) by surfcity.research.att.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA27923 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:38:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B8BAECC.ED9979DC@research.att.com> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:46:36 -0400 From: Jacky Li X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Netvigator} (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: orinoco_cs on StrongArm board Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ I've been trying to get my orinoco card working on a StrongArm board but fails. The card seems to be successfully recognized by PCMCIA services but it doesn't get through when the cardmgr was trying to execute './network start eth0'. It has timeout error message shown as below in /var/log/messages. ========================================================= [root@Linux /root]$tail /var/log/messages <7>eth0: MAC address 00:02:2D:0F:0A:61 <7>eth0: Station name "HERMES I" <7>eth0: ready Jan 1 00:00:14 Linux daemon.info cardmgr[124]: executing: './network start eth0' Jan 1 00:00:14 Linux kern.debug eth0: index 0x01: Vcc 3.3, irq 45, io 0xf6000000-0xf600003f Jan 1 00:00:22 Linux kern.info NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out <4>eth0: Tx timeout! Resetting card. ========================================================= [root@Linux /root]$iwconfig eth0 eth0 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"ATTLABS" Nickname:"Linux" Frequency:2.427GHz Sensitivity:1/3 Mode:Managed Access Point: 00:02:2D:05:80:8B Bit Rate:2Mb/s RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Power Management:off Link quality:35/92 Signal level:-55 dBm Noise level:-90 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 The essid and access point MAC address are correctly detected. Anyone knows why it has timeout message? Anyone is familar with porting an orinoco driver to StrongArm system? Please give me some advices or direct me to useful resources about that. Thanks a lot! Regards, Jacky From prune@lecentre.net Tue Aug 28 08:24:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from bjork.admin.kapt.com (nat-srv1.kaptech.net [195.3.9.4]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E40439E for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 08:24:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lecentre.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bjork.admin.kapt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA8A1FB20; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 17:21:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3B8BB701.5000502@lecentre.net> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 17:21:37 +0200 From: Prune Organization: Lecentre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.3-20mdksmp i686; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Elliston Cc: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: wireless access points References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hi, I personaly have a linksys product (www.linksys.com). Mine is a wireless ap + 4 port switch + lan card. I paid 3500 french francs (about 500-600 $ I think...). it's working really good. have a look to theire website. Cheers, Prune Ben Elliston wrote: > Are Apple Airports the cheapest way to go for an 802.11 access point? > Apple's web pages list them for $699 -- can they be purchased cheaper > elsewhere? > > Ben > > > -- - le Centre - a Mad Cow Tribe product (Very uncommon, but we should please everybody anyway, even disturbed minds) From teddy@angin.com Tue Aug 28 12:03:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from giraffe (unknown [202.77.117.226]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1204D44DB for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 11:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by giraffe ("Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3)", from userid 1046) id F24F71B449; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 08:58:11 +0700 (WIT) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 08:58:11 +0700 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Cc: noc@angin.com, louis@angin.com Subject: Linux Wireless Extension Problem Message-ID: <20010829085811.A6144@angin.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i From: teddy@angin.com (teddy) Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hello All, I have been installing Lucent Orinoco Cards on many linux boxes with some drivers, And It's all worked. But I can't get any statistically values or informations about Link Quality, Signal Level and Noise Level in Wireless Extension. south-zeus:~[1]# cat /proc/net/wireless Inter-| sta-| Quality | Discarded packets face | tus | link level noise | nwid crypt misc eth2: 0000 0. 154. 154. 0 0 126593757 south-zeus:~[2]# iwconfig eth2 eth2 ORiNOCO Channel:3 Link Quality:0/92 Signal level:-102 dBm Noise level:-102 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:126598303 The Card works perfectly, but there is no wireless statisticis. I need informations from /proc/net/wireless to install some Wireless Monitoring Tools. Thank's --Tedd-- From defu.zhang@compaq.com Tue Aug 28 15:04:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from zmamail03.zma.compaq.com (zmamail03.zma.compaq.com [161.114.64.103]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 162BF45B6 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 15:04:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by zmamail03.zma.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id 20B3078B4; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 18:07:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exccup-gh01.mis.tandem.com (exccup-gh01.mis.tandem.com [130.252.226.241]) by zmamail03.zma.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B25087B10 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 18:07:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by exccup-gh01.mis.tandem.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 15:07:56 -0700 Message-ID: <9FFA13EBD965D1119BB700805FE646330BD7AA70@excpla-19601.txp.cpqcorp.net> From: "Zhang, Defu" To: "'wireless@lists.samba.org'" Subject: orinoco_cs question: Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 15:07:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Here is a dmesg > boot.messages file. I am using ORiNOCO silver card. Thanks for give me a hint. Defu Zhang ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Linux version 2.4.9 (root@localhost.localdomain) (gcc version 2.96 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.1 2.96-81)) #1 SMP Tue Aug 28 12:52:57 CDT 2001 BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009fc00 (usable) BIOS-e820: 000000000009fc00 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 0000000007ff0000 (usable) BIOS-e820: 0000000007ff0000 - 0000000007ff3800 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0000000007ff3800 - 0000000008000000 (ACPI NVS) Scan SMP from c0000000 for 1024 bytes. Scan SMP from c009fc00 for 1024 bytes. Scan SMP from c00f0000 for 65536 bytes. Scan SMP from c009fc00 for 4096 bytes. On node 0 totalpages: 32752 zone(0): 4096 pages. zone(1): 28656 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. mapped APIC to ffffe000 (01221000) Kernel command line: auto BOOT_IMAGE=linux-test ro root=305 BOOT_FILE=/boot/bzImage Initializing CPU#0 Detected 399.068 MHz processor. Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 Calibrating delay loop... 796.26 BogoMIPS Memory: 125964k/131008k available (1393k kernel code, 4656k reserved, 532k data, 224k init, 0k highmem) Dentry-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) Inode-cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 4, 65536 bytes) Mount-cache hash table entries: 2048 (order: 2, 16384 bytes) Buffer-cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes) Page-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) CPU: Before vendor init, caps: 0183f9ff 00000000 00000000, vendor = 0 CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K CPU: L2 cache: 256K Intel machine check architecture supported. Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. CPU: After vendor init, caps: 0183f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: After generic, caps: 0183f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: Common caps: 0183f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000 Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX CPU: Before vendor init, caps: 0183f9ff 00000000 00000000, vendor = 0 CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K CPU: L2 cache: 256K Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. CPU: After vendor init, caps: 0183f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: After generic, caps: 0183f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: Common caps: 0183f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU0: Intel Mobile Pentium II stepping 0a per-CPU timeslice cutoff: 730.21 usecs. SMP motherboard not detected. Using dummy APIC emulation. Setting commenced=1, go go go PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf0478, last bus=1 PCI: Using configuration type 1 PCI: Probing PCI hardware Unknown bridge resource 2: assuming transparent PCI: Discovered primary peer bus 04 [IRQ] PCI: Using IRQ router PIIX [8086/7110] at 00:07.0 PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 4 of device 00:07.1 got res[1000:100f] for resource 4 of Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 IDE Limiting direct PCI/PCI transfers. isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards... isapnp: No Plug & Play device found Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 Starting kswapd v1.8 pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with MANY_PORTS SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A ttyS02 at 0x03e8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A block: 128 slots per queue, batch=16 Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39 PIIX4: chipset revision 1 PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later ide0: BM-DMA at 0x1000-0x1007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio ide1: BM-DMA at 0x1008-0x100f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio hda: IBM-DARA-215000, ATA DISK drive hdb: Compaq DRN8040B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ide2: ports already in use, skipping probe ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 hda: 29498112 sectors (15103 MB) w/418KiB Cache, CHS=1950/240/63, UDMA(33) hdb: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM drive, 256kB Cache, DMA Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12 Partition check: hda: hda1 hda2 < hda5 hda6 > Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077 Linux agpgart interface v0.99 (c) Jeff Hartmann agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 94M agpgart: Detected Intel 440BX chipset agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0x50000000 [drm] Initialized tdfx 1.0.0 20010216 on minor 0 [drm] AGP 0.99 on Intel 440BX @ 0x50000000 64MB [drm] Initialized radeon 1.1.1 20010405 on minor 1 SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00 request_module[scsi_hostadapter]: Root fs not mounted es1371: version v0.30 time 12:58:09 Aug 28 2001 Linux Kernel Card Services 3.1.22 options: [pci] [cardbus] [pm] PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:04.0 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:04.1 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 01:00.0 PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:04.1 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:04.0 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 01:00.0 dldwd: David's Less Dodgy WaveLAN/IEEE Driver orinoco_cs.c 0.06f (David Gibson and others) orinoco.c 0.06f (David Gibson and others) hermes.c: 1 Aug 2001 David Gibson usb.c: registered new driver hub Yenta IRQ list 06b8, PCI irq11 Socket status: 30000010 Yenta IRQ list 06b8, PCI irq11 Socket status: 30000010 PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:07.2 uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0x4020, IRQ 11 usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 hub.c: USB hub found hub.c: 2 ports detected uhci.c: :USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... usb.c: registered new driver usb-storage USB Mass Storage support registered. NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP IP: routing cache hash table of 512 buckets, 4Kbytes TCP: Hash tables configured (established 8192 bind 8192) NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0. VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. Freeing unused kernel memory: 224k freed Adding Swap: 264560k swap-space (priority -1) cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean. cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x100-0x107 0x378-0x37f 0x4d0-0x4d7 cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean. cs: warning: no high memory space available! cs: memory probe 0x0d0000-0x0dffff: clean. eth0: NE2000 Compatible: io 0x300, irq 3, hw_addr 00:04:5A:09:73:C2 hermes.c: 1 Aug 2001 David Gibson Uhhuh. NMI received. Dazed and confused, but trying to continue You probably have a hardware problem with your RAM chips hermes_read_ltv(): rid (0xfd20) does not match type (0x0000) hermes @ 0x140: Truncating LTV record from 16382 to 8 bytes. (rid=0xfd20, len=0x2000) eth1: Firmware ID FD20 vendor 0x0 (UNKNOWN) version 1.00 eth1: MAC address 01:FC:00:00:2D:37 eth1: Station name "" eth1: ready eth1: index 0x01: Vcc 5.0, irq 5, io 0x0140-0x017f hermes_read_ltv(): rid (0xfdc1) does not match type (0x0002) eth1: Channel out of range (64961)! hermes_read_ltv(): rid (0xfc06) does not match type (0x0001) hermes_read_ltv(): rid (0xfd41) does not match type (0x0000) hermes_read_ltv(): rid (0xfd42) does not match type (0x0000) hermes_read_ltv(): rid (0xfc84) does not match type (0x0002) hermes_read_ltv(): rid (0xfc82) does not match type (0x0000) From defu.zhang@compaq.com Tue Aug 28 15:13:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from zcamail04.zca.compaq.com (zcamail04.zca.compaq.com [161.114.32.104]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067FF45D9 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 15:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by zcamail04.zca.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id A55251995; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 15:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exccup-gh02.cac.cpqcorp.net (exccup-gh02.cac.cpqcorp.net [16.105.248.61]) by zcamail04.zca.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DFB91A2B for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 15:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by exccup-gh02.cac.cpqcorp.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2652.78) id ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 15:16:21 -0700 Message-ID: <9FFA13EBD965D1119BB700805FE646330BD7AA87@excpla-19601.txp.cpqcorp.net> From: "Zhang, Defu" To: "'wireless@lists.samba.org'" Subject: hermes_read_ltv(): rid (0xfd20) does not match type (0x0000) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 15:16:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2652.78) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Here is the dmesg > boot.messages. Thanks for help. I am using ORiNOCO silver card and runing Redhat 7.1 with upgraded Linux kernel 2.4.9. Thanks. Defu Zhang Tel: 972-516-6033 ---------------------------------------------- Linux version 2.4.9 (root@localhost.localdomain) (gcc version 2.96 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.1 2.96-81)) #1 SMP Tue Aug 28 12:52:57 CDT 2001 BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009fc00 (usable) BIOS-e820: 000000000009fc00 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 0000000007ff0000 (usable) BIOS-e820: 0000000007ff0000 - 0000000007ff3800 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0000000007ff3800 - 0000000008000000 (ACPI NVS) Scan SMP from c0000000 for 1024 bytes. Scan SMP from c009fc00 for 1024 bytes. Scan SMP from c00f0000 for 65536 bytes. Scan SMP from c009fc00 for 4096 bytes. On node 0 totalpages: 32752 zone(0): 4096 pages. zone(1): 28656 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. mapped APIC to ffffe000 (01221000) Kernel command line: auto BOOT_IMAGE=linux-test ro root=305 BOOT_FILE=/boot/bzImage Initializing CPU#0 Detected 399.068 MHz processor. Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 Calibrating delay loop... 796.26 BogoMIPS Memory: 125964k/131008k available (1393k kernel code, 4656k reserved, 532k data, 224k init, 0k highmem) Dentry-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) Inode-cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 4, 65536 bytes) Mount-cache hash table entries: 2048 (order: 2, 16384 bytes) Buffer-cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes) Page-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) CPU: Before vendor init, caps: 0183f9ff 00000000 00000000, vendor = 0 CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K CPU: L2 cache: 256K Intel machine check architecture supported. Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. CPU: After vendor init, caps: 0183f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: After generic, caps: 0183f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: Common caps: 0183f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000 Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX CPU: Before vendor init, caps: 0183f9ff 00000000 00000000, vendor = 0 CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K CPU: L2 cache: 256K Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. CPU: After vendor init, caps: 0183f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: After generic, caps: 0183f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: Common caps: 0183f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU0: Intel Mobile Pentium II stepping 0a per-CPU timeslice cutoff: 730.21 usecs. SMP motherboard not detected. Using dummy APIC emulation. Setting commenced=1, go go go PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf0478, last bus=1 PCI: Using configuration type 1 PCI: Probing PCI hardware Unknown bridge resource 2: assuming transparent PCI: Discovered primary peer bus 04 [IRQ] PCI: Using IRQ router PIIX [8086/7110] at 00:07.0 PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 4 of device 00:07.1 got res[1000:100f] for resource 4 of Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 IDE Limiting direct PCI/PCI transfers. isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards... isapnp: No Plug & Play device found Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 Starting kswapd v1.8 pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with MANY_PORTS SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A ttyS02 at 0x03e8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A block: 128 slots per queue, batch=16 Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39 PIIX4: chipset revision 1 PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later ide0: BM-DMA at 0x1000-0x1007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio ide1: BM-DMA at 0x1008-0x100f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio hda: IBM-DARA-215000, ATA DISK drive hdb: Compaq DRN8040B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ide2: ports already in use, skipping probe ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 hda: 29498112 sectors (15103 MB) w/418KiB Cache, CHS=1950/240/63, UDMA(33) hdb: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM drive, 256kB Cache, DMA Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12 Partition check: hda: hda1 hda2 < hda5 hda6 > Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077 Linux agpgart interface v0.99 (c) Jeff Hartmann agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 94M agpgart: Detected Intel 440BX chipset agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0x50000000 [drm] Initialized tdfx 1.0.0 20010216 on minor 0 [drm] AGP 0.99 on Intel 440BX @ 0x50000000 64MB [drm] Initialized radeon 1.1.1 20010405 on minor 1 SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00 request_module[scsi_hostadapter]: Root fs not mounted es1371: version v0.30 time 12:58:09 Aug 28 2001 Linux Kernel Card Services 3.1.22 options: [pci] [cardbus] [pm] PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:04.0 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:04.1 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 01:00.0 PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:04.1 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:04.0 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 01:00.0 dldwd: David's Less Dodgy WaveLAN/IEEE Driver orinoco_cs.c 0.06f (David Gibson and others) orinoco.c 0.06f (David Gibson and others) hermes.c: 1 Aug 2001 David Gibson usb.c: registered new driver hub Yenta IRQ list 06b8, PCI irq11 Socket status: 30000010 Yenta IRQ list 06b8, PCI irq11 Socket status: 30000010 PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:07.2 uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0x4020, IRQ 11 usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 hub.c: USB hub found hub.c: 2 ports detected uhci.c: :USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... usb.c: registered new driver usb-storage USB Mass Storage support registered. NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP IP: routing cache hash table of 512 buckets, 4Kbytes TCP: Hash tables configured (established 8192 bind 8192) NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0. VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. Freeing unused kernel memory: 224k freed Adding Swap: 264560k swap-space (priority -1) cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean. cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x100-0x107 0x378-0x37f 0x4d0-0x4d7 cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean. cs: warning: no high memory space available! cs: memory probe 0x0d0000-0x0dffff: clean. eth0: NE2000 Compatible: io 0x300, irq 3, hw_addr 00:04:5A:09:73:C2 hermes.c: 1 Aug 2001 David Gibson Uhhuh. NMI received. Dazed and confused, but trying to continue You probably have a hardware problem with your RAM chips hermes_read_ltv(): rid (0xfd20) does not match type (0x0000) hermes @ 0x140: Truncating LTV record from 16382 to 8 bytes. (rid=0xfd20, len=0x2000) eth1: Firmware ID FD20 vendor 0x0 (UNKNOWN) version 1.00 eth1: MAC address 01:FC:00:00:2D:37 eth1: Station name "" eth1: ready eth1: index 0x01: Vcc 5.0, irq 5, io 0x0140-0x017f hermes_read_ltv(): rid (0xfdc1) does not match type (0x0002) eth1: Channel out of range (64961)! hermes_read_ltv(): rid (0xfc06) does not match type (0x0001) hermes_read_ltv(): rid (0xfd41) does not match type (0x0000) hermes_read_ltv(): rid (0xfd42) does not match type (0x0000) hermes_read_ltv(): rid (0xfc84) does not match type (0x0002) hermes_read_ltv(): rid (0xfc82) does not match type (0x0000) From iain@minihub.org Tue Aug 28 15:28:32 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from spoke.minihub.org (spoke.minihub.org [203.14.165.194]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 376BA40FB for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 15:28:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11086 invoked by uid 64014); 28 Aug 2001 22:31:39 -0000 Received: from iain@minihub.org by spoke with qmail-scanner-0.96 (uvscan: v4.1.40/v4150. . Clean. Processed in 0.26676 secs); 28 Aug 2001 22:31:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jackal.minihub.org) (203.45.48.204) by spoke.minihub.org with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP; 28 Aug 2001 22:31:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 548 invoked from network); 28 Aug 2001 22:31:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO there) (127.0.0.1) by jackal.minihub.org with SMTP; 28 Aug 2001 22:31:38 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Iain To: "Dominick, David" , wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: card that does everything? :) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 08:31:38 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010828222831.376BA40FB@lists.samba.org> Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:39, Dominick, David wrote: > you need the prism II chipset only if you are going to use one of the > prebuilt programs. If you can write the algorithm yourself, then any card > that you can put in monitor mode (i.e., Cisco, symbol, etc etc). The Ok. Is there a list of cards that can be put in monitor mode? I was under the impression that the orinocco cards can't do this. Is this correct? > problem is that I do not know of any of these that have an external > antenna. You might try the linksys. > The dlink card does not have an antenna (at least not the one I am using. Similarly does anyone know of a list of cards that can behooked up to external antennas? > This is a problem that I have been running into a lot myself. The cards > that work best in monitor mode also have the shortest range. > Do you mean the PrismII cards? Is this because of their lower power usage? thanks, Iain. 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------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C13066.DB929A20-- From david@gibson.dropbear.id.au Tue Aug 28 18:16:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from localhost (sydney1.au.ibm.com [202.135.142.193]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E55840FB for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 18:16:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dgibson by localhost with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15bu17-0000VF-00 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 11:19:41 +1000 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 11:19:41 +1000 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: card that does everything? :) Message-ID: <20010829111941.H858@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <20010828222831.376BA40FB@lists.samba.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010828222831.376BA40FB@lists.samba.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 08:31:38AM +1000, Iain wrote: > On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:39, Dominick, David wrote: > > you need the prism II chipset only if you are going to use one of the > > prebuilt programs. If you can write the algorithm yourself, then any card > > that you can put in monitor mode (i.e., Cisco, symbol, etc etc). The > > Ok. Is there a list of cards that can be put in monitor mode? I was under the > impression that the orinocco cards can't do this. Is this correct? Well, they might be able to do it, but as far as I know now free driver can put it into this mode. I certainly don't know have to put them into monitor mode. -- David Gibson | Microsoft: Making the easy things hard david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | and the hard things buggy http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From david@gibson.dropbear.id.au Tue Aug 28 18:34:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from localhost (sydney3.au.ibm.com [202.135.142.201]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EFB14668 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 18:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dgibson by localhost with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15buGD-0000WF-00 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 11:35:17 +1000 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 11:35:17 +1000 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: orinoco_cs on StrongArm board Message-ID: <20010829113517.L858@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <3B8BAECC.ED9979DC@research.att.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3B8BAECC.ED9979DC@research.att.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 10:46:36AM -0400, Jacky Li wrote: > > I've been trying to get my orinoco card working on a StrongArm board but > fails. The card seems to be successfully recognized by PCMCIA services > but it doesn't get through when the cardmgr was trying to execute > './network start eth0'. It has timeout error message shown as below in > /var/log/messages. I think there are alignment problems with the orinoco driver on ARM - it seems I haven't put enough ((packed)) attributes in. If you haven't already, could you try the version of the driver from: http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson/dldwd/testing That has some changes to the alignment attributes which I hope will help on ARM. -- David Gibson | Microsoft: Making the easy things hard david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | and the hard things buggy http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From David.Dominick@delta.com Wed Aug 29 06:12:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from satlmsghub04.delta-air.com (dragonfire4.delta.com [205.174.22.24]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 447F447CE for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 06:12:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by satlmsghub04.delta-air.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:15:35 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Dominick, David" To: 'Iain' , wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: card that does everything? :) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:15:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ This is not just the prism II cards. The Symbol and the Cisco both can do monitor mode, but are also lower power. They Cannot be used with Antennas. Those are the only 2 chipsets I could get into Monitor mode besides prism II. I am sure that somebody has found others that can do monitor mode. Lucent can do some of the functionality of monitor mode (see netstumbler.com), but is not completely silent while performing this. -----Original Message----- From: Iain [mailto:iain@minihub.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 6:32 PM To: Dominick, David; wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: card that does everything? :) On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:39, Dominick, David wrote: > you need the prism II chipset only if you are going to use one of the > prebuilt programs. If you can write the algorithm yourself, then any card > that you can put in monitor mode (i.e., Cisco, symbol, etc etc). The Ok. Is there a list of cards that can be put in monitor mode? I was under the impression that the orinocco cards can't do this. Is this correct? > problem is that I do not know of any of these that have an external > antenna. You might try the linksys. > The dlink card does not have an antenna (at least not the one I am using. Similarly does anyone know of a list of cards that can behooked up to external antennas? > This is a problem that I have been running into a lot myself. The cards > that work best in monitor mode also have the shortest range. > Do you mean the PrismII cards? Is this because of their lower power usage? thanks, Iain. From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Wed Aug 29 10:27:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD434AAE for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 10:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id KAA05890; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 10:30:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id KAA15447; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 10:30:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15c9AC-0002QS-00; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 10:30:04 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 10:30:04 -0700 To: teddy@angin.com, Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re : Linux Wireless Extension Problem Message-ID: <20010829103004.F9197@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ teddy wrote : > south-zeus:~[2]# iwconfig eth2 > eth2 ORiNOCO Channel:3 > Link Quality:0/92 Signal level:-102 dBm Noise level:-102 dBm > Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:126598303 No, driver problem. Your driver doesn't support Wireless Extensions. It's probably wavelan2_cs. Jean From ynli@research.att.com Wed Aug 29 16:05:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail-blue.research.att.com (mail-blue.research.att.com [135.207.30.102]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E23744469 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from surfcity.research.att.com (surfcity.research.att.com [135.207.128.5]) by mail-blue.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 470174CE68 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 19:08:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from research.att.com ([135.207.132.55]) by surfcity.research.att.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA07499 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 19:07:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B8D777B.88CACC23@research.att.com> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 19:15:07 -0400 From: Jacky Li X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Netvigator} (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: orinoco_cs on StrongArm board Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ I just tried the testing version. It still has the same problem. I captured the air packets to see what happened. From the captured packets, it can be observed that the authentication and association are successful. It stops at a SNAP packet and then the process repeated for several times. It seems that it got associated with the access point but somehow cannot establish the network in IP level. Any clues for that? Thanks, Jacky > On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 10:46:36AM -0400, Jacky Li wrote: > > > > I've been trying to get my orinoco card working on a StrongArm board > but > > fails. The card seems to be successfully recognized by PCMCIA > services > > but it doesn't get through when the cardmgr was trying to execute > > './network start eth0'. It has timeout error message shown as below > in > > /var/log/messages. > > I think there are alignment problems with the orinoco driver on ARM - > it seems I haven't put enough ((packed)) attributes in. If you > haven't already, could you try the version of the driver from: > http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson/dldwd/testing > > That has some changes to the alignment attributes which I hope will > help on ARM. > > -- > David Gibson | Microsoft: Making the easy things hard > david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | and the hard things buggy > http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From gregor.ibic@intelicom.si Thu Aug 30 07:17:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.intelicom.si (unknown [213.250.27.252]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AF2094B2D for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 07:16:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1357 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2001 14:26:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO miska) (10.1.10.15) by 10.1.10.10 with SMTP; 30 Aug 2001 14:26:46 -0000 From: "Gregor Ibic" To: Subject: unloading wireless adapter - system hang Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:24:30 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ I have a RH 7.1 (2.4.2 kernel) and RoamAbout PCMCIA cards and PCI to PCMCIA bridges (TI1410 chip). I installed precompiled drivers from Enterasys and I can succesfully load the pcmcia and driver. status from iwconfig: eth1 RoamAbout 802.11 Channel:3 Link Quality:0/92 Signal level:-102 dBm Noise level:-102 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 But when I try to unload the interface /sbin/ifconfig eth1 down the system freezes realy hard. I have to press the RESET button. Is there any way to solve this problem? Regards, Gregor Intelicom d.o.o. Security software company http://www.intelicom.si email: info@intelicom.si tel.: ++386 5 6279 350 fax.: ++386 5 6273 784 From firman-p@hemaviton.banteng.teras.net.id Fri Aug 31 01:27:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from sahrina.teras.net.id (unknown [202.155.87.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2FA215087 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 01:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 31239 invoked from network); 31 Aug 2001 08:48:30 -0000 Received: from webdevelopment.teras.net.id (HELO hemaviton.banteng.teras.net.id) (@202.155.87.62) by sahrina.teras.net.id with SMTP; 31 Aug 2001 08:48:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 1499 invoked by uid 501); 31 Aug 2001 08:35:13 -0000 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:35:13 +0700 From: Firman Pribadi To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: crash with orinoco_cs (detail) Message-ID: <20010831153513.A1340@hemaviton.banteng.teras.net.id> Reply-To: Firman Pribadi Mail-Followup-To: Firman Pribadi , wireless@lists.samba.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i X-Machine: Linux hemaviton.banteng.teras.net.id 2.4.9-reiserfs-wireless i686 X-Mailer: -||- an OpenSource mail client -||- Linux hemaviton.banteng.teras.net.id 2.4.9-reiserfs-wireless i686. Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hello all,... I've been trying to get my orinoco card working on my PC with 2.4.x linux kernel, and FYI the card seems to be successfully recognized by PCMCIA services and this orinoco_cs driver. but.. it alway makes my PC crash after loading the driver. i have tryin the 2.4.3-20mdk, 2.4.5, 2.4.6, 2.4.7, and 2.4.9, the latest si 2.4.9, and the problem are same :( with pcmcia-cs include nor modules compiled am using linux slackware 7.1 and mandrake 8.0 distro n i have to test to modify the hermes.conf , rc.pcmcia, config.opts, wireless.opts , changed the irq but still happened tryin changed the card ugh... still can't work fyi in 2.2.x kernel with wavelan2_cs n wvlan_cs, the cards work great Is there any way to solve this problem? here is the _/var/log/messages_ ---* start *--- Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton cardmgr[1167]: starting, version is 3.1.22 Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton cardmgr[1167]: config error, file './hermes.conf' line 34: unknown device: wvlan_cs Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton cardmgr[1167]: watching 2 sockets Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean. Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0800-0x08ff: clean. Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x170-0x177 0x370-0x37f 0x4d0-0x4d7 Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean. Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton cardmgr[1167]: could not adjust resource: IO ports 0xc00-0xcff: Device or resource busy Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton cardmgr[1167]: could not adjust resource: IO ports 0x800-0x8ff: Device or resource busy Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton cardmgr[1167]: could not adjust resource: IO ports 0x100-0x4ff: Device or resource busy Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton cardmgr[1167]: could not adjust resource: memory 0xc0000-0xfffff: Input/output error Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton cardmgr[1167]: could not adjust resource: memory 0x60000000-0x60ffffff: Input/output error Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton cardmgr[1167]: could not adjust resource: memory 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff: Input/output error Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton cardmgr[1167]: could not adjust resource: IO ports 0xa00-0xaff: Device or resource busy Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton cardmgr[1167]: initializing socket 0 Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton kernel: cs: memory probe 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff: clean. Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton cardmgr[1167]: socket 0: Intersil PRISM2 11 Mbps Wireless Adapter Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton cardmgr[1167]: executing: 'modprobe hermes' Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton cardmgr[1167]: executing: 'modprobe orinoco' Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton cardmgr[1167]: executing: 'modprobe orinoco_cs' Aug 31 14:48:37 hemaviton cardmgr[1167]: executing: './network start eth1' Aug 31 14:48:37 hemaviton kernel: NET4: Linux IPX 0.47 for NET4.0 Aug 31 14:48:37 hemaviton kernel: IPX Portions Copyright (c) 1995 Caldera, Inc. Aug 31 14:48:37 hemaviton kernel: IPX Portions Copyright (c) 2000, 2001 Conectiva, Inc. Aug 31 14:48:37 hemaviton kernel: NET4: AppleTalk 0.18a for Linux NET4.0 ---* crash *--- Aug 31 14:49:42 hemaviton syslogd 1.4-0: restart (remote reception). Aug 31 14:49:42 hemaviton syslog: syslogd startup succeeded Aug 31 14:49:42 hemaviton kernel: klogd 1.4-0, log source = /proc/kmsg started. for refences and informations here are some of detail about my machine that am using to test the orinoco card and speedlan 8000 sda. _/proc/cpuinfo_ processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 8 model name : Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping : 6 cpu MHz : 737.034 cache size : 256 KB fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse bogomips : 1471.28 _dmesg_ Linux version 2.4.9-reiserfs-wireless (root@hemaviton.banteng.teras.net.id) (gcc version 2.96 20000731 (Linux-Mandrake 8.0 2.96-0.48mdk)) #2 Wed Aug 29 23:57:16 JAVT 2001 BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009fc00 (usable) BIOS-e820: 000000000009fc00 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 0000000007feb000 (usable) BIOS-e820: 0000000007feb000 - 0000000007fef000 (ACPI data) BIOS-e820: 0000000007fef000 - 0000000007fff000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0000000007fff000 - 0000000008000000 (ACPI NVS) BIOS-e820: 00000000ffff0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) On node 0 totalpages: 32747 zone(0): 4096 pages. zone(1): 28651 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=2.4.9-rfs-wl ro root=305 quiet Initializing CPU#0 Detected 737.034 MHz processor. Console: colour dummy device 80x25 Calibrating delay loop... 1471.28 BogoMIPS Memory: 126400k/130988k available (1140k kernel code, 4200k reserved, 403k data, 220k init, 0k highmem) Dentry-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) Inode-cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 4, 65536 bytes) Mount-cache hash table entries: 2048 (order: 2, 16384 bytes) Buffer-cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes) Page-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) CPU: Before vendor init, caps: 0387f9ff 00000000 00000000, vendor = 0 CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K CPU: L2 cache: 256K Intel machine check architecture supported. Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. CPU: After vendor init, caps: 0387f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU serial number disabled. CPU: After generic, caps: 0383f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: Common caps: 0383f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping 06 Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done. Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX mtrr: v1.40 (20010327) Richard Gooch (rgooch@atnf.csiro.au) mtrr: detected mtrr type: Intel PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf0d90, last bus=2 PCI: Using configuration type 1 PCI: Probing PCI hardware Unknown bridge resource 0: assuming transparent Unknown bridge resource 2: assuming transparent PCI: Using IRQ router PIIX [8086/2440] at 00:1f.0 got res[f4801000:f4801fff] for resource 0 of Texas Instruments PCI1225 got res[f4802000:f4802fff] for resource 0 of Texas Instruments PCI1225 (#2) Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 Initializing RT netlink socket apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.14) Starting kswapd v1.8 VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.4.0 initialized vesafb: framebuffer at 0xf7000000, mapped to 0xc8800000, size 4096k vesafb: mode is 800x600x16, linelength=1600, pages=3 vesafb: protected mode interface info at c000:029f vesafb: scrolling: redraw vesafb: directcolor: size=0:5:6:5, shift=0:11:5:0 Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 100x37 fb0: VESA VGA frame buffer device pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with HUB-6 MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI enabled ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A block: 128 slots per queue, batch=16 RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size 1024 blocksize Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev f9 PIIX4: chipset revision 2 PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later ide0: BM-DMA at 0xb800-0xb807, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio ide1: BM-DMA at 0xb808-0xb80f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio hda: QUANTUM FIREBALLP AS20.5, ATA DISK drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 hda: 40132503 sectors (20548 MB) w/1902KiB Cache, CHS=2498/255/63, UDMA(100) ide-floppy driver 0.97 Partition check: hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 < hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 hda9 hda10 > ide-floppy driver 0.97 Linux Kernel Card Services 3.1.22 options: [pci] [cardbus] [pm] PCI: Enabling device 02:0a.0 (0000 -> 0002) PCI: Found IRQ 9 for device 02:0a.0 PCI: Sharing IRQ 9 with 02:0a.1 PCI: Enabling device 02:0a.1 (0000 -> 0002) PCI: Found IRQ 9 for device 02:0a.1 PCI: Sharing IRQ 9 with 02:0a.0 Intel PCIC probe: not found. md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27 Yenta IRQ list 0000, PCI irq9 Socket status: 30000010 Yenta IRQ list 0000, PCI irq9 Socket status: 30000010 md: Autodetecting RAID arrays. md: autorun ... md: ... autorun DONE. NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP IP: routing cache hash table of 512 buckets, 4Kbytes TCP: Hash tables configured (established 8192 bind 8192) Linux IP multicast router 0.06 plus PIM-SM NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0. cs: socket c1267000 timed out during reset. Try increasing setup_delay. VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. Freeing unused kernel memory: 220k freed Real Time Clock Driver v1.10d Adding Swap: 136544k swap-space (priority -1) reiserfs: checking transaction log (device 03:06) ... reiserfs: replayed 7 transactions in 1 seconds Using r5 hash to sort names reiserfs: using 3.5.x disk format ReiserFS version 3.6.25 reiserfs: checking transaction log (device 03:07) ... Using r5 hash to sort names reiserfs: using 3.5.x disk format ReiserFS version 3.6.25 reiserfs: checking transaction log (device 03:08) ... reiserfs: replayed 8 transactions in 1 seconds Using r5 hash to sort names reiserfs: using 3.5.x disk format ReiserFS version 3.6.25 reiserfs: checking transaction log (device 03:09) ... reiserfs: replayed 1 transactions in 2 seconds Using r5 hash to sort names reiserfs: using 3.5.x disk format ReiserFS version 3.6.25 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.18a PCI: Found IRQ 9 for device 02:0d.0 eth0: RealTek RTL8139 Fast Ethernet at 0xc8ed7000, 00:30:84:27:29:56, IRQ 9 eth0: Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8139C' eth0: Setting 10mbps full-duplex based on auto-negotiated partner ability 4461. es1371: version v0.30 time 00:23:37 Aug 30 2001 PCI: Found IRQ 9 for device 02:0c.0 es1371: found chip, vendor id 0x1274 device id 0x5880 revision 0x02 es1371: found es1371 rev 2 at io 0xd800 irq 9 es1371: features: joystick 0x0 ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: 0x8384:0x7609 (SigmaTel STAC9721/23) _/proc/interrupts_ CPU0 0: 13656 XT-PIC timer 1: 688 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 8: 1 XT-PIC rtc 9: 270 XT-PIC Texas Instruments PCI1225, Texas Instruments PCI1225 (#2), eth0, es1371 14: 25517 XT-PIC ide0 NMI: 0 ERR: 0 _/proc/ioports_ 0000-001f : dma1 0020-003f : pic1 0040-005f : timer 0060-006f : keyboard 0070-007f : rtc 0080-008f : dma page reg 00a0-00bf : pic2 00c0-00df : dma2 00f0-00ff : fpu 01f0-01f7 : ide0 02f8-02ff : serial(auto) 03c0-03df : vesafb 03f6-03f6 : ide0 03f8-03ff : serial(auto) 0cf8-0cff : PCI conf1 b000-b01f : Intel Corporation 82801BA(M) USB (Hub B) b400-b41f : Intel Corporation 82801BA(M) USB (Hub A) b800-b80f : Intel Corporation 82801BA IDE U100 b800-b807 : ide0 b808-b80f : ide1 d000-dfff : PCI Bus #02 d000-d0ff : PCI CardBus #03 d400-d4ff : Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139 d400-d4ff : 8139too d800-d83f : Ensoniq CT5880 [AudioPCI] d800-d83f : es1371 dc00-dcff : PCI CardBus #03 e800-e80f : Intel Corporation 82801BA(M) SMBus _/proc/iomem_ 00000000-0009fbff : System RAM 0009fc00-0009ffff : reserved 000a0000-000bffff : Video RAM area 000c0000-000c7fff : Video ROM 000f0000-000fffff : System ROM 00100000-07feafff : System RAM 00100000-0021d1e9 : Kernel code 0021d1ea-00281f8f : Kernel data 07feb000-07feefff : ACPI Tables 07fef000-07ffefff : reserved 07fff000-07ffffff : ACPI Non-volatile Storage f4800000-f4ffffff : PCI Bus #02 f4800000-f48000ff : Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139 f4800000-f48000ff : 8139too f4801000-f4801fff : Texas Instruments PCI1225 f4802000-f4802fff : Texas Instruments PCI1225 (#2) f4c00000-f4ffffff : PCI CardBus #03 f5000000-f6efffff : PCI Bus #01 f5000000-f5ffffff : nVidia Corporation Riva TnT 128 [NV04] f6f00000-f7ffffff : PCI Bus #01 f7000000-f7ffffff : nVidia Corporation Riva TnT 128 [NV04] f7000000-f73fffff : vesafb f8000000-fbffffff : PCI device 8086:1130 (Intel Corporation) ffff0000-ffffffff : reserved _lspci_ agpgart : Intel Corporation|82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and Memory Controller Hub unknown : (null) unknown : Intel Corporation|82820 815e (Camino 2) Chipset PCI unknown : Intel Corporation|82820 815e (Camino 2) Chipset ISA Bridge (ICH2) unknown : Intel Corporation|82820 815e (Camino 2) Chipset IDE U100 usb-uhci : Intel Corporation|82820 815e (Camino 2) Chipset USB (Hub A) unknown : Intel Corporation|82820 815e (Camino 2) Chipset SMBus usb-uhci : Intel Corporation|82820 815e (Camino 2) Chipset USB (Hub B) Card:RIVA128 : nVidia Corporation|Riva TNT 128 i82365 : Texas Instruments|PCI1225 unknown : (null) es1371 : Ensoniq|CT5880 8139too : Realtek|RTL-8139 _am sorry if this message to much long_ -- Firman Pribadi -------------- http://src.teras.net.id/firmanp From teddy@angin.com Fri Aug 31 04:20:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from Gadis-Manado (unknown [202.77.117.226]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A5C3478B for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 04:19:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by Gadis-Manado ("Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3)",MS-BackOffice4.1) id 375891B4AF; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 01:18:22 +0700 (WIT) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 01:18:22 +0700 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: crash with orinoco_cs (detail) Message-ID: <20010901011822.A32560@angin.com> References: <20010831153513.A1340@hemaviton.banteng.teras.net.id> <20010901003228.A32211@angin.com> <20010901011332.B32521@angin.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010901011332.B32521@angin.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i From: teddy@angin.com (Tedd Anderson) Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 03:35:13PM +0700, Firman Pribadi wrote: > > > n i have to test to modify the hermes.conf , rc.pcmcia, config.opts, > > > wireless.opts , changed the irq but still happened > > > > > > tryin changed the card ugh... still can't work > > > fyi in 2.2.x kernel with wavelan2_cs n wvlan_cs, the cards work great > > > > > > ---* start *--- > > > Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton cardmgr[1167]: starting, version is 3.1.22 > > > Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton cardmgr[1167]: config error, file './hermes.conf' line 34: unknown device: wvlan_cs > > > Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton cardmgr[1167]: watching 2 sockets > > > Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean. > > > Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0800-0x08ff: clean. > > > Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x170-0x177 0x370-0x37f 0x4d0-0x4d7 > > > Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean. > > > Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton cardmgr[1167]: could not adjust resource: IO ports 0xc00-0xcff: Device or resource busy > > > Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton cardmgr[1167]: could not adjust resource: IO ports 0x800-0x8ff: Device or resource busy > > > Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton cardmgr[1167]: could not adjust resource: IO ports 0x100-0x4ff: Device or resource busy > > > Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton cardmgr[1167]: could not adjust resource: memory 0xc0000-0xfffff: Input/output error > > > Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton cardmgr[1167]: could not adjust resource: memory 0x60000000-0x60ffffff: Input/output error > > > Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton cardmgr[1167]: could not adjust resource: memory 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff: Input/output error > > > Aug 31 14:48:36 hemaviton cardmgr[1167]: could not adjust resource: IO ports 0xa00-0xaff: Device or resource busy > > Maybe, the problem isn't a card, but the system resource available for PCMCIA devices. If your wavelan2_cs and wvlan work great, it's not always work if you change with orinoco_cs. You can read The PCMCIA Howto from David Hinds, how to configure your PCMCIA resource memory in /etc/pcmcia/config.opts. Or you can try my config.opts #---------------------------------------------------------------------- # System resources available for PCMCIA devices include port 0x100-0x4ff, port 0x800-0x8ff, port 0xc00-0xcff, port 0x240-0x400 include memory 0xc0000-0xfffff include memory 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff, memory 0x60000000-0x60ffffff # High port numbers do not always work... # include port 0x1000-0x17ff # Extra port range for IBM Token Ring include port 0xa00-0xaff # Resources we should not use, even if they appear to be available # First built-in serial port exclude irq 4 # Second built-in serial port #exclude irq 3 exclude irq 7-in parallel port #---------------------------------------------------------------------- Tedd From paul@busnet.se Fri Aug 31 06:58:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from junior.busnet.se (busnet.se [213.141.78.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8AAD4BAA for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 06:58:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (paul@localhost) by junior.busnet.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA26620 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 16:01:32 +0200 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 16:01:32 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Paul_Wis=E9n?= To: Subject: two jumps .. doesn't work for some reason Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Trying to connect three linuxmachines together. jump1 channel 11 jump2 channel 13 [Linuxbox 1] <-----> [Linuxbox 2 (middle router)] <----> [Linuxbox 3] 10.0.0.1 10.0.0.2 10.0.1.1 10.0.1.2 ESSID network1 Ad-Hoc demo mode ESSID network2 Jump 1 works just fine. For some reson jump2 doesn't work. Atleast not width the wavelan2_cs driver. Is there any known issues about having two radio interfaces on different ESSID's ? or is my computer just broken.. ;) The problem is not on an IP level since I can monitor the radio strength and by that see that it doesn't connect or find anything eventhough they are in the same mode, the same channel, the same essid and in the same room.. I noticed that I can easily hook up linuxbox 3 to the AP we have, on channel 7 and Managed mode, but Ad-Hoc and directly to the other box.. nope. I don't think it's possible to have port_type=1 on one interface and port_type=3 on another so since jump 1 works that can't be the problem eather. The logs is just not saying anything... hmmm should I go and have a coke instead, maybe that helps.. ? :) / Paul PS: What's best, Ad-Hoc demo mode or some IBSS mode for my purposes ? I'm just doing links.. DS: some data: Linuxbox 1 wvlan_cs, one cpu, kernel 2.4.7, one radio interface and one wired on different subnets Linuxbox 2 wavelan2_cs, two cpu's, kernel 2.4.7, pcmcia_cs 3.1.28, two radio interfaces and one wired. Doing routing between the interfaces. All interfaces on different subnets. Linuxbox 3 wavelan2_cs (have been trying wvlan_cs to), kernel 2.4.2, pcmcia_cs 3.1.26, one radio interface and one wired on different subnets. All running redhat 7.1 orinoco silver cards -- \\\___/// \\ - - // ( @ @ ) +---------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo-------------+ | Paul Wisén paul@busnet.se | | WWW.BUSNET.SE | | Ett smartare sätt att boka buss | | Tel:026-669470 GSM:070-5164100 | +------------------------Oooo-------------+ oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) From vk7zbx@mpx.com.au Sat Sep 1 00:58:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail013.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail013.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.174]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE10B4113 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 00:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tricky (hobax1-174.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.190.174]) by mail013.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f8181Ie29063 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 18:01:19 +1000 Message-ID: <000801c132bc$6a523f20$9500a8c0@tricky> From: "Richard Howlett" To: Subject: Netgear MA301 and Orinoco Silver Querey Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 18:02:14 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C13310.3B2D4380" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C13310.3B2D4380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable G'day. Have just tried to get a Netgear MA301 PCI -> PCMCIA adater to work with = an Orinoco Silver card. Anyone got and ideas of any incompatabilities between "brand" names. I would like to assume that ANY card should fit and work in these = adapters. Thanks Richard ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C13310.3B2D4380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
G'day.
 
Have just tried to get a Netgear MA301 = PCI ->=20 PCMCIA adater to work with
an Orinoco Silver card.
 
Anyone got and ideas of any = incompatabilities=20 between "brand" names.
 
I would like to assume that ANY card = should fit and=20 work in these adapters.
 
Thanks
 
Richard
 
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C13310.3B2D4380-- From firman-p@hemaviton.banteng.teras.net.id Sat Sep 1 04:19:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from sahrina.teras.net.id (unknown [202.155.87.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 57B814277 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 04:19:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3169 invoked from network); 1 Sep 2001 11:41:03 -0000 Received: from webdevelopment.teras.net.id (HELO hemaviton.banteng.teras.net.id) (@202.155.87.62) by sahrina.teras.net.id with SMTP; 1 Sep 2001 11:41:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 1324 invoked by uid 501); 1 Sep 2001 11:27:29 -0000 Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 18:27:29 +0700 From: Firman Pribadi To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: crash with orinoco_cs (detail) Message-ID: <20010901182729.A1252@hemaviton.banteng.teras.net.id> Reply-To: Firman Pribadi Mail-Followup-To: Firman Pribadi , wireless@lists.samba.org References: <20010831153513.A1340@hemaviton.banteng.teras.net.id> <20010901003228.A32211@angin.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Quoting Tedd Anderson, <20010901003228.A32211@angin.com> on Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 12:32:28AM +0700: > > Maybe, the problem isn't a card, but the system resource available for PCMCIA devices. If your wavelan2_cs and wvlan work great, it's not always work if you change with orinoco_cs. You can read The PCMCIA Howto from David Hinds, how to configure your PCMCIA resource memory in /etc/pcmcia/config.opts. > Or you can try my config.opts : > #---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > # System resources available for PCMCIA devices > > include port 0x100-0x4ff, port 0x800-0x8ff, port 0xc00-0xcff, port 0x240-0x400 > include memory 0xc0000-0xfffff > include memory 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff, memory 0x60000000-0x60ffffff > > # High port numbers do not always work... > # include port 0x1000-0x17ff > > # Extra port range for IBM Token Ring > include port 0xa00-0xaff > > # Resources we should not use, even if they appear to be available > > # First built-in serial port > exclude irq 4 > # Second built-in serial port > #exclude irq 3 > exclude irq 7-in parallel port > > #---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Teddy. /* dihapus|deleted */ yaps u rite, the problem isn't the card ;) i told u that, rite ?. HOWTOS ?.. yeah they are my best friend. n i have read to much docs about this ... always try n error, n the last i feel better to ask u (hope it solved) nor i got any ideas from this groups btw, ur config.opts is looks simple than mine here's my latest config.opts and rc.pcmcia script _/etc/pcmcia/config.opts_ ... #---------------------------------------------------------------------- # System resources available for PCMCIA devices ##----*IO PORTS*----## include port 0x100-0x4ff #include port 0x800-0x8ff #include port 0xc00-0xcff include port 0x0100-0x013f #include port 0xe800-0xe80f #include port 0xd000-0xdfff #include port 0xd000-0xd0ff #include port 0xdc00-0xdcff #include port 0x0180-0x01bf #include port 0x0140-0x017f # High port numbers do not always work... #include port 0x1000-0x17ff # Extra port range for IBM Token Ring #include port 0xa00-0xaff ##----*IO MEM*----## #include memory 0xc0000-0xfffff include memory 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff #include memory 0x60000000-0x60ffffff #include memory 0xf4801000-0xf4801fff #include memory 0xf4802000-0xf4802fff #include memory 0xf4803000-0xf4803fff #include memory 0xf4c00000-0xf4ffffff #include memory 0xffb80000-0xffbfffff #include memory 0xfff80000-0xffffffff #include memory 0x10211000-0x10211fff # IOMEM reserved #include memory 0x00009fc00-0x0009ffff, memory 0x07fef000-0x7ffefff include memory 0xffff0000-0xffffffff # IOMEM narrow range include memory 0x0d0000-0x0dffff, memory 0xc0000-0xcffff #include memory 0xc8000-0xcffff, memory 0xd8000-0xdffff # Resources we should not use, even if they appear to be available # First built-in serial port exclude irq 4 # Second built-in serial port #exclude irq 3 # First built-in parallel port exclude irq 7 #---------------------------------------------------------------------- ... _/etc/rc.d/rc.pcmcia_ ... #---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Source PCMCIA configuration, if available if [ -f /etc/pcmcia.conf ] ; then # Debian startup option file . /etc/pcmcia.conf #elif [ -f /etc/sysconfig/pcmcia ] ; then # # Red Hat startup option file # . /etc/sysconfig/pcmcia else # Slackware startup options go right here: # Should be either i82365 or tcic PCIC=i82365 # Put socket driver timing parameters here #PCIC_OPTS= #PCIC_OPTS="pci_irq_list=3,5,9,10,12" #PCIC_OPTS="irq_list=3,5,9,10,12" #PCIC_OPTS="irq_mode=0" #PCIC_OPTS="pool_interval=100" PCIC_OPTS="do_scan=0" #PCIC_OPTS="extra_sockets=1" # Put pcmcia_core options here #CORE_OPTS= CORE_OPTS="probe_io=0" # Put cardmgr options here CARDMGR_OPTS= # To set the PCMCIA scheme at startup... SCHEME= #---------------------------------------------------------------------- ... i have tryin the config one by one at all ;) but my card still doesnt work. any ideas ?... tia - -- Firman Pribadi -------------- http://src.teras.net.id/firmanp From drish@bigpond.net.au Sat Sep 1 10:57:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mta01ps.bigpond.com (unknown [144.135.25.133]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612324482 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 10:57:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhr ([144.135.25.69]) by mta01ps.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GIZWZJ00.CVL for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2001 04:06:55 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-166-128.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.166.128]) by PSMAM01.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9i 8374/605914); 02 Sep 2001 04:06:55 Message-ID: <005f01c1330f$622e6be0$0300000a@dhr> From: "Drew" To: Subject: pringles can plans Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 03:56:10 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2542.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2542.0000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Has anyone built the pringles can antenna, and if so, do you have a parts list from a local hardwarehouse/bunnings/etc? d From grog@lemis.com Sat Sep 1 17:36:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3FBC4104 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 17:36:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7D356ACE7; Sun, 2 Sep 2001 10:09:40 +0930 (CST) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 10:09:40 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Richard Howlett Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Netgear MA301 and Orinoco Silver Querey Message-ID: <20010902100940.B59668@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <000801c132bc$6a523f20$9500a8c0@tricky> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000801c132bc$6a523f20$9500a8c0@tricky>; from vk7zbx@mpx.com.au on Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 06:02:14PM +1000 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Saturday, 1 September 2001 at 18:02:14 +1000, Richard Howlett wrote: > G'day. > > Have just tried to get a Netgear MA301 PCI -> PCMCIA adater to work with > an Orinoco Silver card. > > Anyone got and ideas of any incompatabilities between "brand" names. None that I know of between 802.11b DSSS cards, which covers just about everything currently being used. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers From vk7zbx@mpx.com.au Sat Sep 1 20:10:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail013.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail013.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.174]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15E34240 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2001 20:10:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tricky (hobax2-097.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.241.97]) by mail013.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f823DFe09297 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2001 13:13:21 +1000 Message-ID: <001501c1335d$626a6700$9500a8c0@tricky> From: "Richard Howlett" To: Subject: Netgear MA301 wont install ?? Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 13:13:57 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C133B1.1F5CFBE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C133B1.1F5CFBE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy All, I posred last night to query about the compatability of the Netgear = MA301 PCI-->PCMCIA adapter and the Orinoco Silver card. Well, the problen seems to lay with the MA301 adapter card. In istalls = OK, but on examination of the device manager, the problem is reported that the device is not working, error = 10. I have downloaded new drivers from the Netgear site, their FAQ is not of = much help either. I would like to assume that there shouldn't be a problem, also the = Netgear adapter card is reasonably priced at Hardly Normal at $129.00 However if I can't get it to work at all its no good. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks=20 Richard ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C133B1.1F5CFBE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Howdy All,
 
I posred last night to query about the=20 compatability of the Netgear MA301 PCI-->PCMCIA adapter = and
the Orinoco Silver card.
 
Well, the problen seems to lay with the = MA301=20 adapter card. In istalls OK, but on examination of the = device
manager, the problem is reported that = the device is=20 not working, error 10.
I have downloaded new drivers from the = Netgear=20 site, their FAQ is not of much help either.
 
I would like to assume that there = shouldn't be a=20 problem, also the Netgear adapter card is reasonably priced
at Hardly Normal at = $129.00
 
However if I can't get it to work at = all its no=20 good.
 
Any thoughts would be = appreciated.
 
Thanks
 
Richard
 
------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C133B1.1F5CFBE0-- From tmc@goldweb.com.au Sun Sep 2 00:03:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from aramis.goldweb.com.au (aramis.goldweb.com.au [203.37.36.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0492410B for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2001 00:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from raoppp20.goldweb.com.au (raoppp20.goldweb.com.au [203.37.36.210]) by aramis.goldweb.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0212B854; Sun, 2 Sep 2001 17:06:10 +1000 (EST) Received: from barbican.dreamcraft.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7/Debian 8.12.0.Beta7-1) with ESMTP id f82769GG029006; Sun, 2 Sep 2001 17:06:09 +1000 Received: (from tmc@localhost) by barbican.dreamcraft.com.au (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7/Debian 8.12.0.Beta7-1) id f8276658029004; Sun, 2 Sep 2001 17:06:06 +1000 From: Tomasz Ciolek Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 17:06:06 +1000 To: Greg Lehey Cc: Richard Howlett , wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Netgear MA301 and Orinoco Silver Querey Message-ID: <20010902170606.G25249@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> References: <000801c132bc$6a523f20$9500a8c0@tricky> <20010902100940.B59668@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cyV/sMl4KAhiehtf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010902100940.B59668@wantadilla.lemis.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ --cyV/sMl4KAhiehtf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Have just tried to get a Netgear MA301 PCI -> PCMCIA adater to work with > > an Orinoco Silver card. Is the controller itself detected and it runs correctly under your kernel?= =20 was under the impression that a LOT oc contollers in the PCI->PCMCIA forma= t that are found as PCI plugin boards as opposed to laptops have trouble un= der linux, for various reasons. Does the orinoco card work fine in a laptop? Regards Tomasz Ciolek --=20 Tomasz M. Ciolek * * Everything falls under the law of change;=09 * Like a dream, a phantom, a bubble, a shadow, * like dew of flash of lightning. * You should contemplate like this.=20 ***************************************************************************= **** GPG Key ID: 0x7A18E49D * Available on www.pgp.net ***************************************************************************= **** --cyV/sMl4KAhiehtf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7kdpemhPs4XoY5J0RAvJnAJ90csKD3s/dSIxABZ1BbC9D/ZN37QCeJAEN S91uLOl9DHpjKQjKRymsUtE= =ao8J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cyV/sMl4KAhiehtf-- From firman-p@hemaviton.banteng.teras.net.id Sun Sep 2 02:54:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from sahrina.teras.net.id (unknown [202.155.87.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1475A4106 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2001 02:54:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 24335 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2001 10:16:05 -0000 Received: from webdevelopment.teras.net.id (HELO hemaviton.banteng.teras.net.id) (@202.155.87.62) by sahrina.teras.net.id with SMTP; 2 Sep 2001 10:16:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 2805 invoked by uid 501); 2 Sep 2001 10:02:36 -0000 Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 17:02:36 +0700 From: Firman Pribadi To: wireless@lists.samba.org Cc: gregor.ibic@intelicom.si Subject: Re: Lucent PCMCIA->PCI bridge and Linux 2.4 Message-ID: <20010902170236.A2523@hemaviton.banteng.teras.net.id> Reply-To: Firman Pribadi Mail-Followup-To: Firman Pribadi , wireless@lists.samba.org, gregor.ibic@intelicom.si References: <20010901182729.A1252@hemaviton.banteng.teras.net.id> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: ; from gregor.ibic@intelicom.si on Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 02:03:48PM +0200 X-Machine: Linux hemaviton.banteng.teras.net.id 2.2.19-reiserfs-orinoco_cs i686 X-Mailer: -||- an OpenSource mail client -||- Linux hemaviton.banteng.teras.net.id 2.2.19-reiserfs-orinoco_cs i686. Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Quoting Gregor Ibic, on Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 02:03:48PM +0200: > the driver i82365 is not used in kernels 2.4 > you should setup yenta_socket driver in PCMCIA config file > > Regards, > Gregor > /* dihapus|deleted */ thx gregor, i have read about it on README-2.4 in the pcmcia-cs package n from 2.4.3 till to day 2.4.9 my linux kernel always double ;) one with cardbus (yenta_socket) include and another compiled as a module and than tryin changes anything were needed, really its to hard n need along time =) (i dunno if it's my hw specific ?) am using ASUS CUSL-2 MotherBoard. today i can smile to the world ;) coz am BACK to the 2.2.x (2.2.19) kernel and use the latest release of pcmcia-cs package from david (3.1.29) and it's work... after changes smthing in the _/etc/pcmcia/config_ file. .... card "Intersil PRISM2 11 Mbps Wireless Adapter" manfid 0x0156, 0x0002 # bind "wvlan_cs" bind "orinoco_cs" card "Lucent Technologies WaveLAN/IEEE Adapter" version "Lucent Technologies", "WaveLAN/IEEE" # bind "wvlan_cs" bind "orinoco_cs" .... here'is the _/var/log/messages_ ** here's first time using pcmcia-cs 3.1.29 ** Sep 2 16:10:33 hemaviton kernel: Linux PCMCIA Card Services 3.1.29 Sep 2 16:10:33 hemaviton kernel: kernel build: 2.2.19-reiserfs-orinoco_cs #3 Sun Sep 2 15:52:51 JAVT 2001 Sep 2 16:10:33 hemaviton kernel: options: [pci] [cardbus] [pnp] Sep 2 16:10:33 hemaviton kernel: PCI routing table version 1.0 at 0xf1300 Sep 2 16:10:33 hemaviton kernel: 02:0a.0 -> irq 9 Sep 2 16:10:33 hemaviton kernel: 02:0a.1 -> irq 9 Sep 2 16:10:33 hemaviton kernel: PnP: PNP BIOS installation structure at 0xc00fbd40 Sep 2 16:10:33 hemaviton kernel: PnP: PNP BIOS version 1.0, entry at f0000:bd70, dseg at f0000 Sep 2 16:10:33 hemaviton kernel: Intel ISA/PCI/CardBus PCIC probe: Sep 2 16:10:33 hemaviton kernel: TI 1225 rev 01 PCI-to-CardBus at slot 02:0a, mem 0x68000000 Sep 2 16:10:33 hemaviton kernel: host opts [0]: [pci only] [pci irq 9] [lat 32/176] [bus 32/34] Sep 2 16:10:33 hemaviton kernel: host opts [1]: [pci only] [pci irq 9] [lat 32/176] [bus 35/37] Sep 2 16:10:33 hemaviton kernel: PCI card interrupts, PCI status changes Sep 2 16:10:33 hemaviton modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module eth1 Sep 2 16:10:33 hemaviton modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module eth1 Sep 2 16:10:33 hemaviton cardmgr[2175]: starting, version is 3.1.29 Sep 2 16:10:33 hemaviton cardmgr[2175]: config error, file 'config' line 1958: syntax error Sep 2 16:10:33 hemaviton cardmgr[2175]: watching 2 sockets Sep 2 16:10:34 hemaviton kernel: cs: memory probe 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff: clean. Sep 2 16:10:34 hemaviton cardmgr[2175]: socket 0: Lucent Technologies WaveLAN/IEEE Adapter Sep 2 16:10:34 hemaviton cardmgr[2175]: executing: 'modprobe wvlan_cs' Sep 2 16:10:34 hemaviton kernel: wvlan_cs: WaveLAN/IEEE PCMCIA driver v1.0.6 Sep 2 16:10:34 hemaviton kernel: wvlan_cs: (c) Andreas Neuhaus Sep 2 16:10:34 hemaviton kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x170-0x177 0x370-0x37f Sep 2 16:10:34 hemaviton kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0178-0x036f: clean. Sep 2 16:10:34 hemaviton kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0380-0x04ff: clean. Sep 2 16:10:34 hemaviton kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0800-0x08ff: clean. Sep 2 16:10:34 hemaviton kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean. Sep 2 16:10:34 hemaviton kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean. Sep 2 16:10:34 hemaviton kernel: wvlan_cs: index 0x01: Vcc 5.0, irq 9, io 0x0100-0x013f Sep 2 16:10:34 hemaviton kernel: wvlan_cs: Registered netdevice eth1 Sep 2 16:10:34 hemaviton kernel: wvlan_cs: MAC address on eth1 is 00 02 2d 01 a1 41 Sep 2 16:10:34 hemaviton kernel: wvlan_cs: Found firmware 0x60006 (vendor 1) - Firmware capabilities : 1-1-1-1-1 Sep 2 16:10:34 hemaviton cardmgr[2175]: executing: './network start eth1' ** here's after pcmcia config file changed ** Sep 2 16:15:56 hemaviton kernel: Linux PCMCIA Card Services 3.1.29 Sep 2 16:15:56 hemaviton kernel: kernel build: 2.2.19-reiserfs-orinoco_cs #3 Sun Sep 2 15:52:51 JAVT 2001 Sep 2 16:15:56 hemaviton kernel: options: [pci] [cardbus] [pnp] Sep 2 16:15:56 hemaviton kernel: PCI routing table version 1.0 at 0xf1300 Sep 2 16:15:56 hemaviton kernel: PnP: PNP BIOS installation structure at 0xc00fbd40 Sep 2 16:15:56 hemaviton kernel: PnP: PNP BIOS version 1.0, entry at f0000:bd70, dseg at f0000 Sep 2 16:15:56 hemaviton kernel: Intel ISA/PCI/CardBus PCIC probe: Sep 2 16:15:56 hemaviton kernel: TI 1225 rev 01 PCI-to-CardBus at slot 02:0a, mem 0x68000000 Sep 2 16:15:56 hemaviton kernel: host opts [0]: [pci only] [pci irq 9] [lat 32/176] [bus 32/34] Sep 2 16:15:56 hemaviton kernel: host opts [1]: [pci only] [pci irq 9] [lat 32/176] [bus 35/37] Sep 2 16:15:56 hemaviton kernel: PCI card interrupts, PCI status changes Sep 2 16:15:56 hemaviton cardmgr[2349]: starting, version is 3.1.29 Sep 2 16:15:56 hemaviton cardmgr[2349]: config error, file 'config' line 1960: syntax error Sep 2 16:15:56 hemaviton cardmgr[2349]: watching 2 sockets Sep 2 16:15:57 hemaviton kernel: cs: memory probe 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff: clean. Sep 2 16:15:57 hemaviton cardmgr[2349]: socket 0: Lucent Technologies WaveLAN/IEEE Adapter Sep 2 16:15:57 hemaviton cardmgr[2349]: executing: 'modprobe hermes' Sep 2 16:15:57 hemaviton cardmgr[2349]: executing: 'modprobe orinoco' Sep 2 16:15:57 hemaviton cardmgr[2349]: executing: 'modprobe orinoco_cs' Sep 2 16:15:57 hemaviton kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x170-0x177 0x370-0x37f Sep 2 16:15:57 hemaviton kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0178-0x036f: clean. Sep 2 16:15:57 hemaviton kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0380-0x04ff: clean. Sep 2 16:15:57 hemaviton kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0800-0x08ff: clean. Sep 2 16:15:57 hemaviton kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean. Sep 2 16:15:57 hemaviton kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean. Sep 2 16:15:57 hemaviton cardmgr[2349]: executing: './network start eth1' O.K thats all, thanx in advance for group respons. and David Hinds to porting the orinoco_cs to pcmcia-cs package Have a G'Day! , n sorry for my poor english ;) -- Firman Pribadi -------------- http://src.teras.net.id/firmanp From david@gibson.dropbear.id.au Sun Sep 2 17:02:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from localhost (sydney3.au.ibm.com [202.135.142.201]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B01D413E for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2001 17:02:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dgibson by localhost with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15dhEZ-0000Gj-00 for ; Mon, 03 Sep 2001 10:04:59 +1000 Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 10:04:59 +1000 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Netgear MA301 and Orinoco Silver Querey Message-ID: <20010903100459.A719@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <000801c132bc$6a523f20$9500a8c0@tricky> <20010902100940.B59668@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010902100940.B59668@wantadilla.lemis.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 10:09:40AM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Saturday, 1 September 2001 at 18:02:14 +1000, Richard Howlett wrote: > > G'day. > > > > Have just tried to get a Netgear MA301 PCI -> PCMCIA adater to work with > > an Orinoco Silver card. > > > > Anyone got and ideas of any incompatabilities between "brand" names. > > None that I know of between 802.11b DSSS cards, which covers > just about everything currently being used. There is one, that I know of. A number of the older card firmwares (in particular the Lucent firmware before version 6.06) don't support the IEEE standard IBSS ("ad-hoc") mode. Instead they support their own proprietary ad-hoc mode which does not interoperate with IBSS mode. The older Intersil firmwares also use this "demo ad-hoc" mode instead of IBSS (although I forget exactly which versions). -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From alan@objcomp.com.au Sun Sep 2 22:51:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from gw.objcomp.com.au (CPE-61-9-189-180.vic.bigpond.net.au [61.9.189.180]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C1B422E for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2001 22:51:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from objcomp.com.au (oc1 [192.168.0.2]) by gw.objcomp.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f8365rf28589 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2001 16:05:53 +1000 Message-ID: <3B931B52.908440EE@objcomp.com.au> Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 15:55:30 +1000 From: Alan Wilkie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Compaq WL200 driver problems References: <20010902190156.3356043E9@lists.samba.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hi all, I'm having problems getting a Linux driver going for a Compaq WL200 card in ad-hoc mode and wondered if anyone out there had managed to do it. I've tried the wlan-ng driver (with the ad-hoc patch), the prism2 driver and the orinoco_cs driver. After varying degrees of coercion, the results have been the same: I can get an association to a Win98 machine, but no data transfer. Having turned on the debugging in the orinoco_cs driver, I get messages saying "Tx timeout! Resetting card.", so I'm assuming there's something fundamentally wrong here. Strangely, the Win98 status monitor says that it's receiving about 250 bytes/sec, but what is it? Any hints? Alan From janh@brightwatergroup.com Mon Sep 3 00:43:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.brightwatergroup.net (unknown [203.25.121.40]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7EBD446A for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2001 00:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Compaq WL210/WL110 pgitail adapters? Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 15:46:44 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <778DC899FE382B418082003D5EAFFE2E480303@mail.brightwatergroup.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4417.0 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: content-class: urn:content-classes:message Thread-Topic: Compaq WL210/WL110 pgitail adapters? Thread-Index: AcE0PPq4g5R32fW1R8OQkZaXDA7mlAADwSjw From: "Jan Hurst" To: Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ Hi, Does anyone happen to know where I might be able to lay my hands on some pigtail/external antenna leads for Compaq WL210/WL110 cards? TIA, -jan From nicutz@microcom.ro Mon Sep 3 04:56:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from ns.microcom.ro (rf-int.APMCS.gw0.MicroCom.Ro [217.156.94.250]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA6245BF for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2001 04:34:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nicutz (mcs3.MicroCom.Ro [217.156.94.43]) by ns.microcom.ro (8.11.4/8.11.3) with SMTP id f83BUZ218334; Mon, 3 Sep 2001 14:30:35 +0300 Message-ID: <002b01c1346c$e683e380$2b5e9cd9@microcom.ro> From: "Nicusor Dragos" To: Cc: References: <200109021618.f82GIvx27191@darkqueen.org> <03dc01c133cc$f162bf10$0300000a@dhr> Subject: orinoco USB client Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 14:38:06 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/ howdy ! Has use someone subj. with linux ? If yes let me know ! Regards, Dragos Nicusor From wattsg@laboratory.innaloo.net Mon Sep 3 21:22:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from laboratory.innaloo.net (hertha.innaloo.net [203.15.92.14]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE5C4429 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2001 21:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (wattsg@localhost) by laboratory.innaloo.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA24477 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2001 12:25:30 +0800 Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 12:25:30 +0800 (WST) From: Geoff Watts To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: don't get rj45's with power on them wet. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: We have an access point up a recently-lengthened mast here in Perth, and when we lengthened the mast, we just added an RJ45 joiner with some self amalgamating tape. My advice: don't do it :) - the RJ45s pierce the tape, and then you end up with this: http://www.innaloo.net/~wattsg/rust.jpg cheers, geoff From jason.morgan@vpnsolutions.fsnet.co.uk Tue Sep 4 11:11:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail6.svr.pol.co.uk (mail6.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.212]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0799841A0 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2001 11:11:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from modem-6.neilsborium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.73.134] helo=harry.lan) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 15eKhm-0001Wc-00 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Tue, 04 Sep 2001 19:13:47 +0100 From: "Jason Morgan" To: Subject: RE: don't get rj45's with power on them wet. Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 19:24:02 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Just to put the record straight, not being at all pedantic.... Its not rust, its more like galvanic corrosion. Only iron and steel 'rust', other metals corrode, in this case, given the state of the othe conductors (that float with respect to earth and carry a little AC between), its galvanic. Is the case of the equipment earthed perhaps? J. From wattsg@laboratory.innaloo.net Tue Sep 4 16:46:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from laboratory.innaloo.net (hertha.innaloo.net [203.15.92.14]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A35E40C6 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2001 16:46:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (wattsg@localhost) by laboratory.innaloo.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA03785; Wed, 5 Sep 2001 07:49:01 +0800 Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 07:49:01 +0800 (WST) From: Geoff Watts To: Jason Morgan Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: don't get rj45's with power on them wet. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Jason, The connectors that were corroded carried DC ground, and +12 DC volts. I dont know how the connector next to them corroded also, but it could have possibly been grounded in the switch. The equipment is not earthed, and the connector and joiner (yellow plastic connector in picture) was in-line with a piece of cable, and wrapped in self vulcanising rubber tape (which leaked). Considering the quite decent DC voltage potential, the grunt of the power supply, and the fact that we were pulling almost an amp through those pins from time to time was enough to convince me that it was our own stupid fault :) cheers, geoff From steedman@bigpond.net.au Thu Sep 6 06:13:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailin3.email.bigpond.com (juicer24.bigpond.com [139.134.6.34]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F7E4800 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2001 06:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from woo ([139.134.4.56]) by mailin3.email.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GJ8T0400.EEM for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2001 23:19:16 +1000 Received: from CPE-144-132-139-49.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([144.132.139.49]) by mail3.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9i 5/3859420); 06 Sep 2001 23:13:11 Message-ID: <01d001c136d5$d946e300$0a0aa8c0@woo> From: "Glen Steedman" To: References: Subject: Forsale BreezeNet Pro.11 Series Wireless LAN PCMCIA Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 23:14:24 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Buyer fell through on last attempt. BreezeNet Pro.11 Series Wireless LAN PCMCIA Card Its 802.11 and model is SA-PCR PRO.11 $100 + COD + Postage http://www.alvarion.com/Products_2020.asp?tNodeParam=14 http://www.alvarion.com/Products_2030.asp?tNodeParam=23 http://www.alvarion.com/Products_2030.asp?tNodeParam=23&fuf=26&type=item Email me for details. Cheers. From code@steelkey.com.au Thu Sep 6 15:54:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from mail.atnet.net.au (mail.atnet.net.au [210.8.78.132]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1FF744753 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2001 15:54:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15344 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2001 22:52:37 -0000 Received: from cpe-61-9-190-156.vic.bigpond.net.au (HELO re.steelkey.com.au) (61.9.190.156) by mail.atnet.net.au with SMTP; 6 Sep 2001 22:52:37 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010907085743.00b170a8@mail.atnet.net.au> X-Sender: code@atnet.net.au@mail.atnet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:00:55 +1000 To: wireless@samba.org From: Gwilym Evans Subject: Netgear MR314 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Netgear MR314 - Has anyone had any experiences with this? FYI. It's a Cable/DSL router with a built-in wireless AP (802.11b). My BSD router is on the blink and I'm looking for a standalone replacement. Mainly wondering about the performance of the wireless component. Specifically how many PC's can it handle going at full 11mbps? TIA, Gwilym. From mage666@dingoblue.net.au Fri Sep 7 00:35:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail015.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail015.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.178]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 331684B42 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2001 00:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phoenix (newax1-002.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.164.2]) by mail015.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f877cox09491 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2001 17:38:50 +1000 From: "Anthony Davies" To: Subject: Jobs in Canberra Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 17:38:50 +1000 Message-ID: <000001c13770$23bdca30$2401000a@phoenix> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C137C3.F569DA30" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2605 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C137C3.F569DA30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Guys, I don't know if this appropriate, so please don't flame me if it isn't... I am currently in Newcastle going to the uni here, but will be moving to Canberra Somewhere between early December and late January. I am heavily into Linux, I am using an LFS system (www.linuxfromscratch.com) modified by myself. What I am curious about is are there many positions available in Canberra for people with Linux knowledge? If so, what sort of skills are being asked for? I am also very interested in the Wireless Network some of you guys are involved in. What suburbs are currently covered by this Wireless Network, and though the card to get involved is $150 I cant find any prices on the antenna needed whether it be a commercial one or a home made. Many regards, Anthony Davies PS Hoping to see you at a CLUG meeting sometime next year ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C137C3.F569DA30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Hi=20 Guys,
 
I = don't know if this=20 appropriate, so please don't flame me if it isn't...
 
I am = currently in=20 Newcastle going to the uni here, but will be moving to Canberra = Somewhere=20 between early December and late January. I am heavily into Linux, I = am=20 using an LFS system (www.linuxfromscratch.com) = modified by=20 myself. What I am curious about is are there many positions available in = Canberra for people with Linux knowledge? If so, what sort of skills are = being=20 asked for?
 
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Many=20 regards,
Anthony=20 Davies
 
PS = Hoping to see you=20 at a CLUG meeting sometime next year
------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C137C3.F569DA30-- From wailliez@mail.chez.com Fri Sep 7 10:55:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net (bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net [212.100.160.67]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07EF15013 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2001 10:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 213-193-176-144.adsl.easynet.be ([213.193.176.144] helo=[9.36.80.60]) by bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 15fPuW-0008Ap-00 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2001 19:59:24 +0200 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2106 Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 19:59:24 +0200 Subject: Antenna connector? From: S=?ISO-8859-1?B?6Q==?=bastien Wailliez To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello, I'm about to finish a helical antenna but I'm wondering what connector to solder. What N-connector gender would be more advisable, for practical (or conventional) reasons ? S=E9bastien E. Wailliez From daz@dilithiumnetworks.com Fri Sep 7 18:58:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.dilithiumnetworks.com (unknown [202.92.113.242]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9939A418E for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2001 18:58:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 68935 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2001 02:01:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO daz.dilithiumnetworks.com) (202.92.113.241) by 202.92.113.242 with SMTP; 8 Sep 2001 02:01:52 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010908120102.00b047d8@202.92.113.242> X-Sender: daz@202.92.113.242 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 12:03:36 +1000 To: wireless@lists.samba.org From: Darren Williams Subject: PrismII with antenna connector Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hey, Someone asked a while back about PrismII pcmcia cards with antenna connectors, but the list didn't seem to be able to provide a decent recommendation. Does anyone have anything to add now? I'm looking to get a decent card for my laptop, and would prefer to be able to plug an antenna in .. Also, any recommended suppliers here in .au (Sydney) that people could recommend? Darren From drish@bigpond.net.au Fri Sep 7 23:21:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailin6.bigpond.com (juicer03.bigpond.com [139.134.6.79]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18EAB40C5 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2001 23:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhr ([139.134.4.52]) by mailin6.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GJBZG000.F1D for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2001 16:31:12 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-138-249.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.138.249]) by mail5.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9i 9/4307609); 08 Sep 2001 16:25:36 Message-ID: <021701c1382e$66679500$0300000a@dhr> From: "Drew" To: References: <5.1.0.14.2.20010908120102.00b047d8@202.92.113.242> Subject: Re: PrismII with antenna connector Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 16:20:47 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2542.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2542.0000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: there's an incomplete list of cards and antenna jack spex at http://melbwireless.dyndns.org/pages.php?page=Hardware+Database ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Williams" To: Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 12:03 PM Subject: PrismII with antenna connector > Hey, > > Someone asked a while back about PrismII pcmcia cards with antenna > connectors, but the list didn't seem to be able to provide a decent > recommendation. Does anyone have anything to add now? I'm looking to get a > decent card for my laptop, and would prefer to be able to plug an antenna in .. > > Also, any recommended suppliers here in .au (Sydney) that people could > recommend? > > > Darren > > From mikeoldfield@gmx.net Sat Sep 8 00:43:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9945940C5 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2001 00:43:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10332 invoked by uid 0); 8 Sep 2001 07:47:31 -0000 Received: from pd9501ff7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (HELO gmx.net) (217.80.31.247) by mail.gmx.net (mp009-rz3) with SMTP; 8 Sep 2001 07:47:31 -0000 Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 09:44:46 +0200 From: mikeoldfield@gmx.net To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: PrismII with antenna connector X-Mailer: POST/LX 3.1a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010908074334.9945940C5@lists.samba.org> Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi list On Sat, 08 Sep 2001 12:03:36 +1000, Darren Williams wrote: > Someone asked a while back about PrismII pcmcia cards with antenna > connectors, but the list didn't seem to be able to provide a decent I know that the ZoomAir 4105 is one of this kind. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact From int10h@freemail.hu Sat Sep 8 04:22:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from fm7.freemail.hu (fm7.freemail.hu [194.38.105.17]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B72DD4118 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2001 04:22:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 56238 invoked by uid 949393); 8 Sep 2001 13:26:55 +0200 Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 13:26:55 +0200 (CEST) From: int10h Subject: moving from wavelan2_cs to orinoco_cs To: wireless@lists.samba.org Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [152.66.79.53] X-HTTP-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT 5.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-2 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi! I'm currently using wavelan2_cs drivers with lucent orinoco silver cards on several laptops. I want to move to orinoco. My problem is that though there are lots of documentations, I didn't found anything about the module options and configuring. (I've compiled a 2.4.9 kernel with orinoco 0.6 in it. I'm using debian.) Could any of you using orinoco mail me the contents of your /etc/pcmcia directory? Hopefuly, It think there aren't enough of you out there to fill my 3 meg mailbox. Thanks in advance int10h From int10h@freemail.hu Sun Sep 9 01:11:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from fm1.freemail.hu (fm1.freemail.hu [194.38.105.11]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 909BD47BA for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 01:11:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 33275 invoked by uid 949393); 9 Sep 2001 10:15:32 +0200 Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 10:15:32 +0200 (CEST) From: int10h Subject: Re: SV: moving from wavelan2_cs to orinoco_cs To: Paul "Wisén" Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [152.66.79.65] X-HTTP-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT 5.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Paul Wis=E9n =EDrta: > quick question .. > why are you changing driver ? I want to use orinoco cards with desktop PCs equiped with=20 PCI bri bridges (Don't tell me to buy ISA bridges, cause=20 the machines aren't mine, they're the property of my=20 university.) and I've read a mail in a linux kernel=20 developement list, that the PCI bridges (with TI1410 chip)=20 are supported now (or atleast a patch exist for 2.4.5). The second cause is that I want to make performance test=20 (detect collosions (bad CRC frames)), want to extract=20 management frames and control the use of the usage of=20 RTS/CTS directly on a per frame basis. This is because I'm=20 working on an AODV implementation. Ok it's true that if I want to hack into the orinoco module=20 than the minimum is for me to be able to configure the=20 connection without documentation, only guided by the=20 source, but I thought that I ask you people on the list to=20 share your experiences. > ound with orinoco_cs for weeks and the only thing that > works for me is wavelan2_cs .. > So, just to be qurious, why are you changing driver ? >=20 > regards > / Paul Sweden >=20 > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > > Fran: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org > > [mailto:wireless-admin@lists.samba.org]F=F6r int10h > > Skickat: den 8 september 2001 13:27 > > Till: wireless@lists.samba.org > > =C4mne: moving from wavelan2_cs to orinoco_cs > > > > > > Hi! > > > > I'm currently using wavelan2_cs drivers with lucent=20 orinoco > > silver cards on several laptops. I want to move to=20 orinoco. > > My problem is that though there are lots of=20 documentations, > > I didn't found anything about the module options and > > configuring. (I've compiled a 2.4.9 kernel with orinoco=20 0.6 > > in it. I'm using debian.) Could any of you using orinoco > > mail me the contents of your /etc/pcmcia directory? > > Hopefuly, It think there aren't enough of you out there=20 to > > fill my 3 meg mailbox. > > > > Thanks in advance > > int10h > > > > >=20 >=20 From sjh@svana.org Sun Sep 9 01:47:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 331D64796 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 01:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wybh-a-001-pool-206.tmns.net.au (shiva.marian) [139.134.138.206] by svana.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15g0LT-0006hn-00; Sun, 09 Sep 2001 18:53:46 +1000 Received: from sjh by shiva.marian with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15g0Jr-0008Kf-00 for ; Sun, 09 Sep 2001 18:51:59 +1000 Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 18:51:59 +1000 From: Steven Hanley To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: SV: moving from wavelan2_cs to orinoco_cs Message-ID: <20010909185159.A32001@shiva.marian> Reply-To: Steven Hanley References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Some Random Email Client Organization: much sought in this hectic world Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 10:15:32AM +0200, int10h wrote: > Paul Wis?n ?rta: > > > quick question .. > > why are you changing driver ? > > I want to use orinoco cards with desktop PCs equiped with > PCI bri bridges (Don't tell me to buy ISA bridges, cause > the machines aren't mine, they're the property of my > university.) and I've read a mail in a linux kernel > developement list, that the PCI bridges (with TI1410 chip) > are supported now (or atleast a patch exist for 2.4.5). > > The second cause is that I want to make performance test > (detect collosions (bad CRC frames)), want to extract > management frames and control the use of the usage of > RTS/CTS directly on a per frame basis. This is because I'm > working on an AODV implementation. > > Ok it's true that if I want to hack into the orinoco module > than the minimum is for me to be able to configure the > connection without documentation, only guided by the > source, but I thought that I ask you people on the list to > share your experiences. well the pci<->pcmcia card that comes with the d-link wireless cards works fine in linux. the output of lspci -v for that card is 00:09.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c475 (rev 80) Subsystem: Ricoh Co Ltd: Unknown device 0475 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 168, IRQ 12 Memory at e7803000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=05, sec-latency=176 Memory window 0: 10000000-103ff000 (prefetchable) Memory window 1: 10400000-107ff000 I/O window 0: 00001000-000010ff I/O window 1: 00001400-000014ff 16-bit legacy interface ports at 0007 I am using the orinoco driver fine on that machine. See You Steve -- sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh Look Up In The Sky Is it a bird? No Is it a plane No Is it a small blue banana? Yes From dgibson@samba.org Sun Sep 9 19:39:22 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id 42EA14127; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 19:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 11:21:21 +1000 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: SV: moving from wavelan2_cs to orinoco_cs Message-ID: <20010910112121.B4823@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 10:15:32AM +0200, int10h wrote: > Paul Wis?n ?rta: > > > quick question .. > > why are you changing driver ? > > I want to use orinoco cards with desktop PCs equiped with > PCI bri bridges (Don't tell me to buy ISA bridges, cause > the machines aren't mine, they're the property of my > university.) and I've read a mail in a linux kernel > developement list, that the PCI bridges (with TI1410 chip) > are supported now (or atleast a patch exist for 2.4.5). That shouldn't require changes to the orinoco driver. Once the PCMCIA subsystem supports the bridges properly the orinoco driver should just work. > The second cause is that I want to make performance test > (detect collosions (bad CRC frames)), want to extract > management frames and control the use of the usage of > RTS/CTS directly on a per frame basis. This is because I'm > working on an AODV implementation. That's somewhat more complicated, and something I certainly want to add to the driver. There are other things ahead of it on the queue though. Be aware that although I suspect the orinoco cards are capable of monitor mode, I have no idea how to activate it (no firmware specs). -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From dgibson@samba.org Sun Sep 9 19:39:22 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id 78DB54667; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 19:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 11:34:01 +1000 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: orinoco_cs and BAP errors Message-ID: <20010910113401.D4823@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <20010828051255.F265C4118@lists.samba.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010828051255.F265C4118@lists.samba.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 07:15:39AM +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Hi list, > > Dave Gibson posted here a few days ago that there are new sources for > orinoco_cs which should avoid the BAP problems (Error x writing packet > header to BAP). Yes, I should have been a bit clearer about that. Those changes were specifically for "-5" (EIO) BAP errors, not EBUSY or ETIMETOUT errors. > With the pcmcia-3.1.28 package patched by SuSE (which I mentioned in me > other posting), which now includes also the orinoco_cs, I don't get > these errors on my desktop machine when inserting my ZoomAir 4100 > PrismII card. > The Desktop uses a Databook TCIC PCMCIA chipset. > > But on my HP Omnibook 800CT (Inter PCMCIA chipset) I get these errors, > where the number x is either -110 or -16, alternating. > > When I now take the new files from dave's site (I only took the > orinoco* and hermes* ones), compile the pcmcia package anew and install > the modules, I still get these errors, but this time more x=-16 and > only one x=-110, and all of them in one line, approximately 20 times > > "omnibook kernel: eth0: Error -16 writing packet header to BAP<3>eth0: > Error -16 writing pakcet header to BAP<3>Error -16 writing....." Them all coming in one line was just a typo, now fixed. The changes I made wouldn't help for -16 (EBUSY) errors. However some changes I've made since should help with this. Could you give the latest test version a whirl and tell me how it works? -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From agd5f@yahoo.com Sun Sep 9 21:46:09 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from web11302.mail.yahoo.com (web11302.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.205]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F21AB4178 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 21:46:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010910045006.20643.qmail@web11302.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.0.106.52] by web11302.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Sep 2001 21:50:06 PDT Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 21:50:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Deucher Subject: help with D-Link DWL-650: a physical manifestation of pure evil To: wireless@lists.samba.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I just bought a linksys wireless router, and a D-link DWL-650 wireless ethernet card. I have now spent the better part of 2 days trying to get this POS working. How do you do it? I have tried just about every Howto out there to get this card to work, but alas it refuses. I'm using redhat 7.1 and kernel 2.4.9 using the kernel pcmcia drivers. Initially I tried to use the stock redhat kernel using wvlan_cs, but that did not work. Next I tried to get it to work using the orinoco_cs drivers. I built and installed 2.4.9 with all the necessary options; I installed the wireless utilities like iwconfig; I copied the hermes.conf file over from the orinoco website and rebooted. the card was detected, but got the: orinoco_cs: GetNextTuple: No more items so I tried to add the ignore_cis_vcc option the the orinoco_cs driver. I tried adding it to config.opts, and it seemed to ignore it there, so next I added it to hermes.conf and once again, no luck. So I added it as an option in my modules.conf, still no luck. I can modprobe -r the orinoco_cs driver and and then reload it with the ignore_cis_vcc option, but it still doesn't work. iwconfig always shows "no wireless extentions" Next I played around with wireless.opts, trying various things suggested by different webpages. still no luck. Next I tried the prism2_cs drivers from the linux-wlan group, but they always seem to have unresolved symbols when I try and load the modules. Now I don't know what else to try. I don't have win98 either of my laptops so I can't test the card. I anyone knows anything that would help me, please speak up I'm about ready to throw this card out the window. BTW, my hardware is a toshiba portege 3020ct and a libretto 50ct. I first tried it in the libretto and had no luck, then I read somewhere that this card required a cardbus slot (even though it doesn't have the little gold bar), so I tried the portege which has a cardbus capable conroller. Any help would be much apprecited... 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Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From sjh@svana.org Sun Sep 9 23:23:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6111B49CF for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 23:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from okda.anu.edu.au (shiva.marian) [150.203.160.23] by svana.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15gKZQ-0007KE-00; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 16:29:24 +1000 Received: from sjh by shiva.marian with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15gKYF-0000F2-00 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 16:28:11 +1000 Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 16:28:11 +1000 From: Steven Hanley To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: help with D-Link DWL-650: a physical manifestation of pure evil Message-ID: <20010910162811.A911@shiva.marian> Reply-To: Steven Hanley References: <20010910045006.20643.qmail@web11302.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010910045006.20643.qmail@web11302.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Some Random Email Client Organization: much sought in this hectic world Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: well I used to use the wvlan_cs driver with my dwl-650, but gave up on that as the driver was unreliable and unstable. Now I use david gibson's orinoco driver and it all works fine. you need to use the orinoco, orinoco_cs and hermes modules from a recent (such as 2.4.9) kernel. Then setup pcmcia so it loads these drivers when the card is inserted. I find it works pretty much flawlessly now with these drivers. I am not usign a bse station so have to be cazreful about how I bring up the interface with iwconfig options, however with a base station it should work off the bat. If you need I can post the config stuff pcmcia needed to correctly load the drivers on insetion of the card or something (cant add them just now as I am at work) See You Steve -- sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh Look Up In The Sky Is it a bird? No Is it a plane No Is it a small blue banana? Yes From andrew@andrew.net.au Sun Sep 9 23:36:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from daedalus.andrew.net.au (daedalus.andrew.net.au [210.215.5.53]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E1A4AE4 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 23:36:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from daedalus.andrew.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7/Debian 8.12.0.Beta7-1) with ESMTP id f8A6eMfs019087 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 16:40:22 +1000 Received: (from www-data@localhost) by daedalus.andrew.net.au (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7/Debian 8.12.0.Beta7-1) id f8A6eMNO019086 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 16:40:22 +1000 Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 16:40:22 +1000 Message-Id: <200109100640.f8A6eMNO019086@daedalus.andrew.net.au> X-Authentication-Warning: daedalus.andrew.net.au: www-data set sender to andrew@andrew.net.au using -f X-Mailer: JAWmail 0.9.17 X-Originating-IP: 210.215.7.252 From: Andrew Pollock To: Subject: Taking the wireless plunge MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I'm considering going nuts and running wireless ethernet at home instead of tripping over CAT5 cables running down my hallway. Can people who have "been there, done that" offer any tips or suggestions? I was intending to have the following scenario: +-----+ +------------+ +-------+ +-------+ ====|Linux|..........|Access Point|-----| Hub |------|Windows| +-----+ . +------------+ +-------+ +-------+ . . . +--------+ | Laptop | +--------+ where ==== is ADSL ---- is CAT5 .... is 802.11 and use a PCMCIA wireless client card in my laptop and in the Linux box (with a PCI adapter) and plug an access point into the hub. Orinoco is the first vendor that I've been able to confirm supports Linux, if there are any better/cheaper vendors out there, I wouldn't mind a nudge in the right direction. TIA Andrew From ant@sa.pracom.com.au Sun Sep 9 23:40:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from foghorn.steadycom.com.au (foghorn.steadycom.com.au [203.38.128.193]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 892894A46 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 23:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sa.pracom.com.au (ant [10.0.0.53]) by foghorn.steadycom.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27989 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 16:14:34 +0930 Message-ID: <3B9C60A9.38D6FC11@sa.pracom.com.au> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 16:11:46 +0930 From: Anthony Symons Organization: Pracom Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.6 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: South of Adelaide wireless network Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I live South of Adelaide, in Panorama, and therefor have some elevation and would probably be able to get connectivity with anyone south of the CBD, and before the hills. Does a wireless network exist in this area? Is anyone in this area interested in setting one up? If I was to run an FTP 24/7 on it full of cool stuff, would anyone use it and contribute? ;) Cheers, Ant -- Systems Administrator Pracom Ltd. +61 8 82029074 -=- +61 402 100 671 anthony.symons@sa.pracom.com.au PRIVILEGED - PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL This electronic mail is solely for the use of the addressee and may contain information which is confidential or privileged. If you receive this electronic mail in error, please delete it from your system immediately and notify the sender by electronic mail or using any of the above contact details. From drish@bigpond.net.au Sun Sep 9 23:45:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mta04ps.bigpond.com (juicer49.bigpond.com [144.135.25.136]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA4E4AEC for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 23:45:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhr ([144.135.25.81]) by mta04ps.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GJFPX600.0BE for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 16:55:54 +1000 Received: from 144.137.6.10 ([144.137.6.10]) by psmam05.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9i 8410/4865047); 10 Sep 2001 16:55:50 Message-ID: <028001c139c3$9882a7f0$0300000a@dhr> From: "Drew" To: References: <3B9C60A9.38D6FC11@sa.pracom.com.au> Subject: Re: South of Adelaide wireless network Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 16:41:13 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2542.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2542.0000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://www.adelaide.air.net.au/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Symons" To: Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 4:41 PM Subject: South of Adelaide wireless network > I live South of Adelaide, in Panorama, and therefor have some elevation > and would probably be able to get connectivity with anyone south of the > CBD, and before the hills. Does a wireless network exist in this area? > Is anyone in this area interested in setting one up? If I was to run an > FTP 24/7 on it full of cool stuff, would anyone use it and contribute? > ;) > > Cheers, > Ant > -- > Systems Administrator > Pracom Ltd. > +61 8 82029074 -=- +61 402 100 671 > anthony.symons@sa.pracom.com.au > > PRIVILEGED - PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL > This electronic mail is solely for the use of the addressee and may > contain information which is confidential or privileged. > If you receive this electronic mail in error, please delete it from > your system immediately and notify the sender by electronic mail or > using any of the above contact details. > From john@capmon.com Sun Sep 9 23:49:28 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from penguin.capmon.com (penguin.capmon.com [203.37.39.51]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2824AF2 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 23:49:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from john (john.capmon.com [203.37.39.40]) by penguin.capmon.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with SMTP id QAA28988 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 16:56:55 +1000 X-Authentication-Warning: penguin.capmon.com: Host john.capmon.com [203.37.39.40] claimed to be john Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010910165252.01bd7ae0@mailhost.capmon.com> X-Sender: john@mailhost.capmon.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 16:52:52 +0000 To: wireless@lists.samba.org From: John Griffiths Subject: where & how in Canberra Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: hi, I've been over the air.net.au site and been on the list for a few days. it's entirely possible I've been particularly dense, but can anyone tell me what subrubs in Canberra are covered and how one goes about joining? TIA John From harold@oretruck.org Mon Sep 10 05:07:22 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from cascade.lesmills.net.au (garnam.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.12.174]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2283841A9 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 05:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (harold@localhost) by cascade.lesmills.net.au (8.11.4/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f8ACVO175831 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:31:24 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from harold@oretruck.org) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:31:24 +1000 (EST) From: Harold Hotham X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Canberra Locations Message-ID: <20010910222950.N75763-100000@cascade.lesmills.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, Does the Canberra network cover Rivett or Farrer? Thanks Harold From bernard.tyers@dcu.ie Mon Sep 10 05:37:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from hawk.dcu.ie (mail.dcu.ie [136.206.1.5]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F784C12 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 05:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dcu.ie (136.206.21.115) by hawk.dcu.ie (5.5.031) id 3B94AE2D000161E5 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:41:16 +0100 Message-ID: <3B9CB5E9.9080000@dcu.ie> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:45:29 +0100 From: Bernard Michael Tyers Reply-To: bernard.tyers@dcu.ie Organization: Dublin City University User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.3) Gecko/20010801 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "wireless@lists.samba.org" Subject: Encryption Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all, I have a question regarding the 2 main (it seems) encryption standards on 802. My question is regarding cards using different encryption schemes talking to each other. I am interested in buying a Orinnoco Silver card. Reading up on the specs of the card, I see that it uses 64 bit WEP. I also came across the spec for the Gold card and it uses 128 bit RC4 encryption. Now to my question (it may be frivolous ). Can these two cards communicate to each other? Is it neseccasry for the access point to be able to handle both WEP (which I would guess most of them can already) and 128 bit RC4? Are you resrticted to using only Orinnoco hardware for this reason? thanks in advance, Bernard -- Bernard Tyers * Research Assistant * National Centre for Sensor Research * P:353-1-700-5273 * E: bernard.tyers@dcu.ie * L:N117 [21:52] emacs. is that macontosh [21:52] emacs = linux [21:52] emacs...whats wrong with vi! heathen From agd5f@yahoo.com Mon Sep 10 07:05:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from web11301.mail.yahoo.com (web11301.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.204]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 539174C86 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 07:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010910140938.34999.qmail@web11301.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [153.39.171.230] by web11301.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 07:09:38 PDT Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 07:09:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Deucher Subject: help with D-Link DWL-650: a physical manifestation of To: sjh@wibble.net, wireless@lists.samba.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: If you could, I'd appreciate it. Also what is the proper method for passing the the ignore_cis_vcc option to the orinoco driver? I've been adding the option to the module line ie: opts "ignore_cis_vcc". Thanks, Alex -------------------------- well I used to use the wvlan_cs driver with my dwl-650, but gave up on that as the driver was unreliable and unstable. Now I use david gibson's orinoco driver and it all works fine. you need to use the orinoco, orinoco_cs and hermes modules from a recent (such as 2.4.9) kernel. Then setup pcmcia so it loads these drivers when the card is inserted. I find it works pretty much flawlessly now with these drivers. I am not usign a bse station so have to be cazreful about how I bring up the interface with iwconfig options, however with a base station it should work off the bat. If you need I can post the config stuff pcmcia needed to correctly load the drivers on insetion of the card or something (cant add them just now as I am at work) See You Steve __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From jas@pcguru.com.au Mon Sep 10 07:11:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from grunt.pcguru.com.au (unknown [203.59.228.98]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9594C09 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 07:11:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pcguru.com.au (swami.pcguru.com.au [192.168.0.2]) by grunt.pcguru.com.au (8.11.6/8.11.6/dsb-1.1) with SMTP id f8AEFf921751 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:15:46 +0800 Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:15:34 +0800 From: Jason Jordan To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: WTB: Wireless Cards Message-Id: <20010910221534.04517af9.jas@pcguru.com.au> Organization: Ray Martin has odd hair. I suspect Aliens are somehow involved. X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.1claws1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; ) X-Face: )]tS!&`e.~o!,%E7v0,FVAfelGLC=^Q=m,2zK@>_6Fh1h"eQz~~}Xt,@H(Kw|_"UmH#SZ4O?6d8\EDfl?k=j4`*;F%Zt(9YT X-message-flag: Fatal Error. Please reboot your system. X-Todays-Stupid-InJoke: All Your Base Are Belong To Us X-Pre-Empt-Wife-Yes-Dear: Put the Cheese Away Jason Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Folks, I'm not sure if WTB's are considered off-topic on this list - but I guess you'll let me know. I'm chasing at least 2 WaveLan ISA cards - but possibly more depending on how well they work and price. Cheers, Jas From sjh@svana.org Mon Sep 10 07:45:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27EBB4C26 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 07:45:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (shiva.marian) [144.138.122.109] by svana.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15gSPd-0007cX-00; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 00:51:49 +1000 Received: from sjh by shiva.marian with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15gSO1-0000fs-00; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 00:50:09 +1000 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 00:50:09 +1000 From: Steven Hanley To: Alex Deucher , Wireless WAN List Subject: Re: help with D-Link DWL-650: a physical manifestation of Message-ID: <20010911005007.A2565@shiva.marian> Reply-To: Steven Hanley References: <20010910140938.34999.qmail@web11301.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010910140938.34999.qmail@web11301.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Some Random Email Client Organization: much sought in this hectic world Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 07:09:38AM -0700, Alex Deucher wrote: > If you could, I'd appreciate it. Also what is the > proper method for passing the the ignore_cis_vcc > option to the orinoco driver? I've been adding the > option to the module line ie: opts "ignore_cis_vcc". why do you need that module option? (just curious) in the /etc/pcmcia/config file I have device "orinoco_cs" class "network" module "hermes", "orinoco", "orinoco_cs" in the device driver definitions section near the top then card "D-Link DWL 650 802.11b Adapter" manfid 0x0156, 0x0002 bind "orinoco_cs" in the wireless network adapters section I didnt bother trying to make the /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts do anything as it doesnt seem to do it reliably so that the card will work, instead I have a /etc/network/interfaces file (this is debian of course) with the following entry iface eth2 inet static noauto pre-up iwconfig eth2 essid wireless pre-up iwconfig eth2 freq 2.422GHz pre-up iwconfig eth2 rate 11M address 192.168.15.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.15.0 broadcast 192.168.15.255 up route del -net 192.168.15.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 up route add -host 192.168.15.2 dev eth2 up ciped-cb -o /etc/cipe/options.shiva down ifconfig cipcb0 down although I dont know if it works or not as I have not rebooted in ages but seem to remember doing iwconfig and ifconfig commands by hand at some stage. as for passing the module paramater you would have something like device "orinoco_cs" class "network" module "hermes", "orinoco", "orinoco_cs" module "orinoco" opts "ignore_cis_vcc=1" (the source code says this is a paramater of type int so you need to set it to 1 or 0 (defaults to 0) See You Steve -- sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh Look Up In The Sky Is it a bird? No Is it a plane No Is it a small blue banana? Yes From David.Dominick@delta.com Mon Sep 10 07:50:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from satlmsghub04.delta-air.com (dragonfire4.delta.com [205.174.22.24]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACAE646DE for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 07:50:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by satlmsghub04.delta-air.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 10:54:51 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Dominick, David" To: 'Jason Jordan' , wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: Wireless Cards Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 10:54:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: umm you could do a lot better price wise to just buy ISA PCMCIA adapters and standard wavelan cards. The Orinoco product is way over priced for basically the same thing. -----Original Message----- From: Jason Jordan [mailto:jas@pcguru.com.au] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:16 AM To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: WTB: Wireless Cards Folks, I'm not sure if WTB's are considered off-topic on this list - but I guess you'll let me know. I'm chasing at least 2 WaveLan ISA cards - but possibly more depending on how well they work and price. Cheers, Jas From sjh@svana.org Mon Sep 10 07:54:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B244E53 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 07:54:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (shiva.marian) [144.138.122.109] by svana.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15gSXw-0007cr-00; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 01:00:30 +1000 Received: from sjh by shiva.marian with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15gSWI-0000gW-00 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 00:58:42 +1000 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 00:58:42 +1000 From: Steven Hanley To: "wireless@lists.samba.org" Subject: Re: Encryption Question Message-ID: <20010911005842.B2565@shiva.marian> Reply-To: Steven Hanley References: <3B9CB5E9.9080000@dcu.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3B9CB5E9.9080000@dcu.ie> User-Agent: Some Random Email Client Organization: much sought in this hectic world Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 01:45:29PM +0100, Bernard Michael Tyers wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a question regarding the 2 main (it seems) encryption standards > on 802. > > My question is regarding cards using different encryption schemes > talking to each other. > > I am interested in buying a Orinnoco Silver card. Reading up on the > specs of the card, I see that it uses 64 bit WEP. I also came across the > spec for the Gold card and it uses 128 bit RC4 encryption. > > Now to my question (it may be frivolous ). Can these two cards > communicate to each other? > > Is it neseccasry for the access point to be able to handle both WEP > (which I would guess most of them can already) and 128 bit RC4? > Are you resrticted to using only Orinnoco hardware for this reason? umm, okay, first off, the hardware encryption with wirelss cards is broken and can not be relied on for any security at all. Anyone who wants to can rock up with a standard laptop running linux and work out the key for the encryption in about 15 minutes and thus have full access to all your data going across wireless. If you need security implement some point to point encryption mechanism such as cipe, IPSec, etc. However if you still wish to use the on card encryption (ie you do not believe anyone will bother coming along and listening to your traffic, or you dont care if they do) The cards with different encryption levels can not speak to each other in encrypted mode. You have to have the same size key for cards to speak to each other, however they dont have to be the same brand, if one vendor has a new firmware version that implements 128 bit it will then be able to talk to other cards implementing 128 bit in encryption mode. However as this is 802.11 hardware the cards should be fine talking to each other in unencrypted mode, which is fine really as the encryption id not at all secure and you should be implemnting some form of point to point VPN technology over the unsecure wireless link anyway. (yes I have such a setup in my house and at work) So yes they can communicate, with encryption disabled, or with the same level of encryption. See You Steve -- sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh Look Up In The Sky Is it a bird? No Is it a plane No Is it a small blue banana? Yes From agd5f@yahoo.com Mon Sep 10 08:26:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from web11308.mail.yahoo.com (web11308.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.211]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A1FEF4B5A for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 08:26:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010910153042.74814.qmail@web11308.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [153.39.171.230] by web11308.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 08:30:42 PDT Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 08:30:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Deucher Subject: Re: help with D-Link DWL-650: a physical manifestation of To: Steven Hanley , Alex Deucher , Wireless WAN List In-Reply-To: <20010911005007.A2565@shiva.marian> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Thanks for the info. I'm gonna try it again tonight when I get home. I need the option 'cause without it it get the GetNextTuple error message when the module loads. Alex --- Steven Hanley wrote: > On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 07:09:38AM -0700, Alex > Deucher wrote: > > If you could, I'd appreciate it. Also what is the > > proper method for passing the the ignore_cis_vcc > > option to the orinoco driver? I've been adding > the > > option to the module line ie: opts > "ignore_cis_vcc". > > why do you need that module option? (just curious) > > in the /etc/pcmcia/config file I have > > device "orinoco_cs" > class "network" module "hermes", "orinoco", > "orinoco_cs" > > in the device driver definitions section near the > top > > then > > card "D-Link DWL 650 802.11b Adapter" > manfid 0x0156, 0x0002 > bind "orinoco_cs" > > in the wireless network adapters section > > I didnt bother trying to make the > /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts do anything as it > doesnt seem to do it reliably so that the card will > work, instead I have a > /etc/network/interfaces file (this is debian of > course) with the following > entry > > iface eth2 inet static > noauto > pre-up iwconfig eth2 essid wireless > pre-up iwconfig eth2 freq 2.422GHz > pre-up iwconfig eth2 rate 11M > address 192.168.15.1 > netmask 255.255.255.0 > network 192.168.15.0 > broadcast 192.168.15.255 > up route del -net 192.168.15.0 netmask > 255.255.255.0 > up route add -host 192.168.15.2 dev eth2 > up ciped-cb -o /etc/cipe/options.shiva > down ifconfig cipcb0 down > > although I dont know if it works or not as I have > not rebooted in ages but > seem to remember doing iwconfig and ifconfig > commands by hand at some stage. > > as for passing the module paramater > > you would have something like > > device "orinoco_cs" > class "network" module "hermes", "orinoco", > "orinoco_cs" > module "orinoco" opts "ignore_cis_vcc=1" > > (the source code says this is a paramater of type > int so you need to set it to > 1 or 0 (defaults to 0) > > See You > Steve > > -- > sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh > Look Up In The Sky > Is it a bird? No > Is it a plane No > Is it a small blue banana? > Yes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Mon Sep 10 11:17:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA0952C2 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 11:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id LAA20363; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 11:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id LAA00733; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 11:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15gVg8-0007GJ-00; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 11:21:04 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 11:21:04 -0700 To: Alex Deucher , Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: help with D-Link DWL-650: a physical manifestation of pure evil Message-ID: <20010910112104.B27823@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Alex Deucher wrote : > so I tried to add the ignore_cis_vcc option the the > orinoco_cs driver. I tried adding it to config.opts, > and it seemed to ignore it there, so next I added it > to hermes.conf and once again, no luck. So I added it > as an option in my modules.conf, still no luck. If I remember well, go in hermes.conf and do that : ------------------------ device "orinoco_cs" class "network" module "hermes", "orinoco" opts "ignore_cis_vcc=1", "orinoco_cs" # module "hermes", "orinoco", "orinoco_cs" opts "pc_debug=3" ------------------------ Jean From Robert.Edwards@anu.edu.au Mon Sep 10 14:37:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from cs.anu.edu.au (cs.anu.edu.au [150.203.164.35]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C68540B for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:37:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from anu.edu.au (tux [150.203.160.12]) by cs.anu.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA06581; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 07:41:52 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3B9D3398.5F10B092@anu.edu.au> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 07:41:44 +1000 From: Bob Edwards Organization: Australian National University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Pollock Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Taking the wireless plunge References: <200109100640.f8A6eMNO019086@daedalus.andrew.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Andrew Pollock wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm considering going nuts and running wireless ethernet at home instead of > tripping over CAT5 cables running down my hallway. > > Can people who have "been there, done that" offer any tips or suggestions? > > I was intending to have the following scenario: > > +-----+ +------------+ +-------+ +-------+ > ====|Linux|..........|Access Point|-----| Hub |------|Windows| > +-----+ . +------------+ +-------+ +-------+ > . > . > . > +--------+ > | Laptop | > +--------+ > > where > > ==== is ADSL > ---- is CAT5 > .... is 802.11 > > and use a PCMCIA wireless client card in my laptop and in the Linux box (with a > PCI adapter) and plug an access point into the hub. > > Orinoco is the first vendor that I've been able to confirm supports Linux, if > there are any better/cheaper vendors out there, I wouldn't mind a nudge in the > right direction. > > TIA > > Andrew The only main issue I can see is that all your traffic from your laptop to your ADSL line willgo on wireless twice (once from laptop to AP, then from AP to Linux router). I suppose you can't plug the AP into Linux box and have the 'doze machine on a PCI wireless card? This is more or less how my home (and work) networks work, and we also run CIPE over the wireless links (doesn't work with 'doze 9x) to enforce a greater security. Cheers, Bob Edwards. From dgibson@samba.org Mon Sep 10 15:47:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id 9C0F75457; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 15:47:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:41:24 +1000 From: David Gibson To: jt@hpl.hp.com Cc: Alex Deucher , Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: help with D-Link DWL-650: a physical manifestation of pure evil Message-ID: <20010911084124.L4823@zax> Mail-Followup-To: jt@hpl.hp.com, Alex Deucher , Samba/Wavelan mailing list References: <20010910112104.B27823@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010910112104.B27823@bougret.hpl.hp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 11:21:04AM -0700, Jean Tourrilhes wrote: > Alex Deucher wrote : > > so I tried to add the ignore_cis_vcc option the the > > orinoco_cs driver. I tried adding it to config.opts, > > and it seemed to ignore it there, so next I added it > > to hermes.conf and once again, no luck. So I added it > > as an option in my modules.conf, still no luck. > > If I remember well, go in hermes.conf and do that : > device "orinoco_cs" > class "network" > module "hermes", "orinoco" opts "ignore_cis_vcc=1", "orinoco_cs" > # module "hermes", "orinoco", "orinoco_cs" opts "pc_debug=3" Except that ignore_cis_vcc is a PCMCIA specific option, so it should be module "hermes", "orinoco", "orinoco_cs" opts "ignore_cis_vcc=1" -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Mon Sep 10 15:49:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5815433 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 15:49:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id PAA08872; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 15:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id PAA27649; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 15:53:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15gZw3-0007Le-00; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 15:53:47 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 15:53:47 -0700 To: jt@hpl.hp.com, Alex Deucher , Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: help with D-Link DWL-650: a physical manifestation of pure evil Message-ID: <20010910155347.A28241@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com References: <20010910112104.B27823@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <20010911084124.L4823@zax> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010911084124.L4823@zax>; from david@gibson.dropbear.id.au on Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 08:41:24AM +1000 Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 08:41:24AM +1000, David Gibson wrote: > > Except that ignore_cis_vcc is a PCMCIA specific option, so it should > be > module "hermes", "orinoco", "orinoco_cs" opts "ignore_cis_vcc=1" Doh ! Bad memory. Jean From agd5f@yahoo.com Mon Sep 10 16:58:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from web11305.mail.yahoo.com (web11305.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.208]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CBECE54A1 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 16:58:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010911000157.63110.qmail@web11305.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.0.106.52] by web11305.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 17:01:57 PDT Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 17:01:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Deucher Subject: Re: help with D-Link DWL-650: a physical manifestation of pure evil To: jt@hpl.hp.com, Alex Deucher , Samba/Wavelan mailing list In-Reply-To: <20010910155347.A28241@bougret.hpl.hp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Thanks for all your help!!! It now works fine, on the portege anyway. I get the Tx error on insertion in my libretto. it tried excluding the initial irq that it was assigned, but that didn't help. perhaps you need a cardbus enabled controller...? I guess I'll have to investigate that one further. Any thoughts? Alex --- Jean Tourrilhes wrote: > On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 08:41:24AM +1000, David > Gibson wrote: > > > > Except that ignore_cis_vcc is a PCMCIA specific > option, so it should > > be > > module "hermes", "orinoco", "orinoco_cs" opts > "ignore_cis_vcc=1" > > Doh ! Bad memory. > > Jean __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From Robert.Edwards@anu.edu.au Mon Sep 10 18:41:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from cs.anu.edu.au (cs.anu.edu.au [150.203.164.35]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0682144F2 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 18:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from anu.edu.au (tux [150.203.160.12]) by cs.anu.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09585 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:45:52 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3B9D6CC8.42736DB1@anu.edu.au> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:45:44 +1000 From: Bob Edwards Organization: Australian National University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@samba.org Subject: inside a DLink DWL-120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: The D-Link DWL-120 is a USB - IEEE 802.11b interface. Some have suggested that it might have some popular PCMCIA card inside, but this is not the case. I appears to be based on a Harris/Intersil reference design with a USB interface added. The main chips in it (other than the DSSS radio) are: U20 - Atmel AT76C503A (56602) - some sort of microcontroller U303 - tm(TE/CH) T14L1024N (RAM?) U5 - (Intersil) HFA3861BIN U17 - ATMEL050 25040N (USB interface?) The PCB says GEMTEK WL-281 (stylized M in GEMTEK) Just thought some people might be interested in what's inside. Why is this unit interesting? Well, if you need to locate an IEEE802.11b device near a mast-top dish etc., this device might be just what you were looking for. USB is good to 5M at a time, and with hubs this can be extended out to 25M, so you can have your radio near your antenna (cuts down on cable losses), and have your router down inside the house etc. Cheers, Bob Edwards. From wattsg@laboratory.innaloo.net Mon Sep 10 19:04:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from laboratory.innaloo.net (hertha.innaloo.net [203.15.92.14]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0565D4516 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 19:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (wattsg@localhost) by laboratory.innaloo.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27565; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:07:48 +0800 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:07:48 +0800 (WST) From: Geoff Watts To: Bob Edwards Cc: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: inside a DLink DWL-120 In-Reply-To: <3B9D6CC8.42736DB1@anu.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Why is this unit interesting? Well, if you need to locate an IEEE802.11b > device near a mast-top dish etc., this device might be just what you were > looking for. USB is good to 5M at a time, and with hubs this can be > extended out to 25M, so you can have your radio near your antenna (cuts > down on cable losses), and have your router down inside the house etc. Apparently you can push your luck a bit on USB cable lengths, and some resellers even sell quite long USB cables over the counter. Don't know if performance would be a bit of a factor though - not to mention that you'd be running an USB cable up a lightning-rod, and you'd have to run windows on your router box :) I wonder if the USB interface and the board can sustain more than a few mbps .. what's USB up for? 12mbps? I think on this site http://www.guerrilla.net/reference/80211_mod/dwl-650_ext_antenna/index.html There's a picture of the USB gemtek board, and a few links to the FCC database with shots of the PCB, etc Also, the lucent external USB adapters contain a wavelan card and the usual antenna connector - they'd be quite nice up a mast. g. From www-data@langhorst.com Mon Sep 10 19:37:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.147.1.144]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE0D5514 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 19:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from strange (hbwlang1.ne.mediaone.net [24.91.237.108]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8B2fch27247 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:41:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www-data by strange with local (Exim 3.31 #1 (Debian)) id 15gdUM-0006iW-00 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:41:26 -0400 To: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: DWL-650 and apple airport - WEP compatible? From: bwlang@langhorst.com Reply-To: bwlang@langhorst.com Cc: X-Mailer: AeroMail (http://the.cushman.net/reverb/aeromail/) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Message-Boundary" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-attachments: Message-Id: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:41:26 -0400 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --Message-Boundary Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body I have this card working with an apple airport using 40 bit wep... I ran across this while searching for how to get this to work with windows and thought I'd put in my 2 pesos. i'm using the the orinoco_cs driver in 2.4.9 brad --Message-Boundary Content-type: ; name="" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-disposition: attachment; filename="" DQo= --Message-Boundary-- From iain@minihub.org Mon Sep 10 20:44:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from spoke.minihub.org (spoke.minihub.org [203.14.165.194]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C84265450 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 31735 invoked by uid 64014); 11 Sep 2001 03:48:35 -0000 Received: from iain@minihub.org by spoke with qmail-scanner-1.00 (uvscan: v4.1.40/v4155. . Clean. Processed in 0.209207 secs); 11 Sep 2001 03:48:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jackal.minihub.org) (61.9.167.250) by spoke.minihub.org with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP; 11 Sep 2001 03:48:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 11293 invoked from network); 11 Sep 2001 03:47:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO there) (127.0.0.1) by jackal.minihub.org with SMTP; 11 Sep 2001 03:47:18 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Iain To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Compaq WL-210 chipset? Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:47:17 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010911034448.C84265450@lists.samba.org> Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I am a bit confused about the chipset in the Compaq WL-210 cards. This site says that it is a primsII chipset: http://melbwireless.dyndns.org/pages.php?page=Hardware+Database Whereas on the howto it implies that they are orinoco cards: http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Linux.Wireless.drivers.html#Prism2 "on the other hand, the WL 110, WL 210 and WL 215 are Orinoco cards)" cheers, Iain. -- public key available at http://www.minihub.org/~iain/iain.asc From drish@bigpond.net.au Mon Sep 10 20:57:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailin3.email.bigpond.com (juicer24.bigpond.com [139.134.6.34]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81545549 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:57:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhr ([139.134.4.56]) by mailin3.email.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GJHCTF00.IHI for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:08:03 +1000 Received: from 144.137.7.119 ([144.137.7.119]) by mail3.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9i 5/6110829); 11 Sep 2001 14:02:03 Message-ID: <003701c13a75$0a35b0c0$0300000a@dhr> From: "Drew" To: References: <20010911034448.C84265450@lists.samba.org> Subject: Re: Compaq WL-210 chipset? Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:51:22 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2542.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2542.0000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: im pretty sure the 100 is a prism and the 110 is a hermes (orinoco) so that would lead me to think the 200 is prism and the 210 is hermes, and i've got the melb db wrong. can anyone confirm? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iain" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:47 PM Subject: Compaq WL-210 chipset? > Hi, > > I am a bit confused about the chipset in the Compaq WL-210 cards. > > This site says that it is a primsII chipset: > http://melbwireless.dyndns.org/pages.php?page=Hardware+Database > > Whereas on the howto it implies that they are orinoco cards: > > http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Linux.Wireless.drivers. html#Prism2 > > "on the other hand, the WL 110, WL 210 and WL 215 are Orinoco cards)" > > cheers, Iain. > -- > public key available at http://www.minihub.org/~iain/iain.asc > From Robert.Edwards@anu.edu.au Mon Sep 10 21:14:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from cs.anu.edu.au (cs.anu.edu.au [150.203.164.35]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 042C8551B for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 21:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from anu.edu.au (tux [150.203.160.12]) by cs.anu.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11879; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:18:13 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3B9D907E.11D2359B@anu.edu.au> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:18:06 +1000 From: Bob Edwards Organization: Australian National University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Geoff Watts Cc: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: inside a DLink DWL-120 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Geoff Watts wrote: > > > Why is this unit interesting? Well, if you need to locate an IEEE802.11b > > device near a mast-top dish etc., this device might be just what you were > > looking for. USB is good to 5M at a time, and with hubs this can be > > extended out to 25M, so you can have your radio near your antenna (cuts > > down on cable losses), and have your router down inside the house etc. > > Apparently you can push your luck a bit on USB cable lengths, and some > resellers even sell quite long USB cables over the counter. Don't know if > performance would be a bit of a factor though - not to mention that you'd > be running an USB cable up a lightning-rod, and you'd have to run windows > on your router box :) At the moment you would have to run Windows ... just wait and see ... > > I wonder if the USB interface and the board can sustain more than a few > mbps .. what's USB up for? 12mbps? > > I think on this site > http://www.guerrilla.net/reference/80211_mod/dwl-650_ext_antenna/index.html > There's a picture of the USB gemtek board, and a few links to the FCC > database with shots of the PCB, etc > This is an excellent link. Cheers! > Also, the lucent external USB adapters contain a wavelan card and the > usual antenna connector - they'd be quite nice up a mast. > > g. Cheers, Bob Edwards. From dgibson@samba.org Mon Sep 10 21:15:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id 6CAF15564; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 21:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:16:38 +1000 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Compaq WL-210 chipset? Message-ID: <20010911141638.O4823@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <20010911034448.C84265450@lists.samba.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010911034448.C84265450@lists.samba.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 01:47:17PM +1000, Iain wrote: > Hi, > > I am a bit confused about the chipset in the Compaq WL-210 cards. > > This site says that it is a primsII chipset: > http://melbwireless.dyndns.org/pages.php?page=Hardware+Database > > Whereas on the howto it implies that they are orinoco cards: > > http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Linux.Wireless.drivers.html#Prism2 > > "on the other hand, the WL 110, WL 210 and WL 215 are Orinoco cards)" Orinoco cards are based on the Prism II chipset, but they have a different firmware from the one provided by Intersil. Incidentally (at least some of the) Aironet cards are also based on the Prism II chipset, but have yet another, and more substantially different, firmware. -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From janh@brightwatergroup.com Mon Sep 10 21:24:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.brightwatergroup.net (unknown [203.25.121.40]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A63555A for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 21:24:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: RE: Compaq WL-210 chipset? Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:28:51 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <778DC899FE382B418082003D5EAFFE2E038B25@mail.brightwatergroup.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4417.0 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Compaq WL-210 chipset? Thread-Index: AcE6dLKW2SOssPxVQ++VJi/Ah2se4wAAFL2g From: "Jan Hurst" To: "Iain" , Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, The WL210 is simple a PCI adapter with a WL110 inside. I've got a couple WL110's sitting on my desk right now. They look like something licensed from Lucent, but I don't know enough about the chipsets etc to tell u much more than that. One of the Win2k or WinXP drivers I was testing told me what the chipset was but I can't find it right now :( I'll send a note thru if I see it. -jan > -----Original Message----- > From: Iain [mailto:iain@minihub.org]=20 > Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2001 11:47 AM > To: wireless@lists.samba.org > Subject: Compaq WL-210 chipset? >=20 >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I am a bit confused about the chipset in the Compaq WL-210 cards. >=20 > This site says that it is a primsII chipset:=20 > http://melbwireless.dyndns.org/pages.php?page=3DHardware+Database >=20 > Whereas on the howto it implies that they are orinoco cards: >=20 http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Linux.Wireless.driv ers.html#Prism2 "on the other hand, the WL 110, WL 210 and WL 215 are Orinoco cards)" cheers, Iain. --=20 public key available at http://www.minihub.org/~iain/iain.asc From iain-list@minihub.org Mon Sep 10 22:19:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from spoke.minihub.org (spoke.minihub.org [203.14.165.194]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4403F5544 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:19:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1197 invoked by uid 64014); 11 Sep 2001 05:22:58 -0000 Received: from iain-list@minihub.org by spoke with qmail-scanner-1.00 (. Clean. Processed in 0.567221 secs); 11 Sep 2001 05:22:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jackal.minihub.org) (61.9.167.250) by spoke.minihub.org with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP; 11 Sep 2001 05:22:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 11426 invoked from network); 11 Sep 2001 05:20:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO there) (127.0.0.1) by jackal.minihub.org with SMTP; 11 Sep 2001 05:20:52 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Iain To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Compaq WL-210 chipset? Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:20:51 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] References: <778DC899FE382B418082003D5EAFFE2E038B25@mail.brightwatergroup.net> In-Reply-To: <778DC899FE382B418082003D5EAFFE2E038B25@mail.brightwatergroup.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010911051904.4403F5544@lists.samba.org> Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Can anyone confirm that these are 30mW cards and not 100mW cards? What sort of impact does this have on ranges? thanks, Iain. On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:28, you wrote: > Hi, > > The WL210 is simple a PCI adapter with a WL110 inside. > > I've got a couple WL110's sitting on my desk right now. They look like > something licensed from Lucent, but I don't know enough about the > chipsets etc to tell u much more than that. > > One of the Win2k or WinXP drivers I was testing told me what the chipset > was but I can't find it right now :( I'll send a note thru if I see it. > -- public key available at http://www.minihub.org/~iain/iain.asc From bhards@bigpond.net.au Tue Sep 11 02:28:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from mta01ps.bigpond.com (juicer46.bigpond.com [144.135.25.133]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C120E41AB for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 02:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bigpond.net.au ([144.135.25.75]) by mta01ps.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GJHS3R00.03O; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:38:15 +1000 Received: from CWIP-T-001-p-211-132.tmns.net.au ([203.54.211.132]) by PSMAM03.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9i 8392/5550219); 11 Sep 2001 19:38:15 Message-ID: <3B9DD29F.DE0C133F@bigpond.net.au> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:00:15 +1000 From: Brad Hards X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.10-pre2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Edwards Cc: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: inside a DLink DWL-120 References: <3B9D6CC8.42736DB1@anu.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Bob Edwards wrote: > > The D-Link DWL-120 is a USB - IEEE 802.11b interface. Some have suggested > that it might have some popular PCMCIA card inside, but this is not the > case. There is someone (Compaq?) with a USB to PCMCIA bridge, based on the Cypress (nee Anchorchips) microcontroller; and a PCMCIA card. I have some ideas (based on the USB Snoopy tool and maybe an 8051 disassembler) that might help if anyone is working on this. > I appears to be based on a Harris/Intersil reference design with > a USB interface added. The main chips in it (other than the DSSS radio) > are: > U20 - Atmel AT76C503A (56602) - some sort of microcontroller Actually a USB to 802.11 MAC. > U303 - tm(TE/CH) T14L1024N (RAM?) > U5 - (Intersil) HFA3861BIN > U17 - ATMEL050 25040N (USB interface?) > The PCB says GEMTEK WL-281 (stylized M in GEMTEK) Gemtek seems to be a D-Link production house. > Just thought some people might be interested in what's inside. I didn't pull apart the shielded section, but the basic design seems to be the Atmel MAC, and then Intersil IF/RF chips. It seems like there are two implementations. The D-Link design (vendor ID 0x03eb, product ID0x7603) requires firmware download, and the Linksys design (vendor 0x066b, product 0x2211) seems to use some form of internal memory. I am about to hack on the driver some more. From jsirucka@dodgyware.com Tue Sep 11 05:58:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from sylvie.dodgyware.com (unknown [203.44.130.66]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 944764FC3 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 05:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dodgyware.com ([203.44.130.78]) by sylvie.dodgyware.com (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f8BD5Kp22124 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:05:23 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3B9E0B31.A1BD02AD@dodgyware.com> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:01:38 +1000 From: Joseph Sirucka Organization: Dodgyware X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@samba.org Subject: alpha and wireless References: <3B9D6CC8.42736DB1@anu.edu.au> <3B9DD29F.DE0C133F@bigpond.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi All I'm trying to get a alpha and a wireless setup working currently. I currently am trying to find a compatiable isa pcmcia card that will work with the alpha and a 2mb wavelan card. My preferred os would be netbsd , but will also take linux if this would work and waht card. Since equipment isn't cheap, that is why I aksing before buying, or continuing any further. Joseph From blymn@baesystems.com.au Tue Sep 11 17:18:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from sbproxy.baea.com.au (gateway.baea.com.au [202.20.20.129]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64CBD4A3A for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:18:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bunya.awadi ([150.207.4.63]) by sbproxy.baea.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA21978; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 09:49:21 +0930 (CST) Received: from mallee.awadi by bunya.awadi (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA01901; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 09:52:26 +0930 Received: by mallee.awadi (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA00165; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 09:54:21 +0930 From: blymn@baesystems.com.au (Brett Lymn) Message-Id: <200109120024.JAA00165@mallee.awadi> Subject: Re: alpha and wireless To: jsirucka@dodgyware.com (Joseph Sirucka) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 09:54:20 +0930 (CST) Cc: wireless@samba.org In-Reply-To: <3B9E0B31.A1BD02AD@dodgyware.com> from "Joseph Sirucka" at Sep 11, 2001 11:01:38 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: According to Joseph Sirucka: > >I currently am trying to find a compatiable isa pcmcia card that will work with >the alpha and a 2mb wavelan card. > I talked to the NetBSD guys and one of them has a ISA pcmcia bridge card that came with his WebGear cards working fine in his as200 alpha. You may need to run NetBSD-current to get it working though. -- =============================================================================== Brett Lymn, Computer Systems Administrator, BAE SYSTEMS =============================================================================== From jsirucka@dodgyware.com Tue Sep 11 17:45:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from sylvie.dodgyware.com (unknown [203.44.130.66]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1077549BF for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dodgyware.com ([203.44.130.76]) by sylvie.dodgyware.com (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f8C0oup24472; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:50:57 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3B9EB09A.1E9A0EAF@dodgyware.com> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:47:22 +1000 From: Joseph Sirucka Organization: Dodgyware X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brett Lymn Cc: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: alpha and wireless References: <200109120024.JAA00165@mallee.awadi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Brett I gather that it works with a webgear card, but not with a wavelan card. I need it to work with the wavelan card since it has a external area. So what isa pcmcia will work with a wavelan in a alpha. Joseph Brett Lymn wrote: > According to Joseph Sirucka: > > > >I currently am trying to find a compatiable isa pcmcia card that will work with > >the alpha and a 2mb wavelan card. > > > > I talked to the NetBSD guys and one of them has a ISA pcmcia bridge > card that came with his WebGear cards working fine in his as200 > alpha. You may need to run NetBSD-current to get it working though. > > -- > =============================================================================== > Brett Lymn, Computer Systems Administrator, BAE SYSTEMS > =============================================================================== From blymn@baesystems.com.au Tue Sep 11 17:57:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from sbproxy.baea.com.au (gateway.baea.com.au [202.20.20.129]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6154A86 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bunya.awadi ([150.207.4.63]) by sbproxy.baea.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA23816; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:28:22 +0930 (CST) Received: from mallee.awadi by bunya.awadi (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA05411; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:31:28 +0930 Received: by mallee.awadi (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA00515; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:33:23 +0930 From: blymn@baesystems.com.au (Brett Lymn) Message-Id: <200109120103.KAA00515@mallee.awadi> Subject: Re: alpha and wireless To: jsirucka@dodgyware.com (Joseph Sirucka) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:33:22 +0930 (CST) Cc: blymn@baesystems.com.au (Brett Lymn), wireless@samba.org In-Reply-To: <3B9EB09A.1E9A0EAF@dodgyware.com> from "Joseph Sirucka" at Sep 12, 2001 10:47:22 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: According to Joseph Sirucka: > >I gather that it works with a webgear card, but not with a wavelan card. I need it >to work with the wavelan card since it has a external area. I will need to check but the guy I checked with said his ISA pcmcia bridge was just a no-name card that came with the webgear. I would be _really_ surprised if the wavelan does not work (I will check with the alpha guys). I do have a pair of wavelans working fine in a couple of intel machines running NetBSD at home, about the only hard bit is that the wavelans require a fairly large memory space to work, larger than the default is configured for. > So what isa pcmcia will >work with a wavelan in a alpha. > I believe that the bridge is a separate issue from the wavelan itself. When I can get hold of the alpha experts again I will double check that for you. -- =============================================================================== Brett Lymn, Computer Systems Administrator, BAE SYSTEMS =============================================================================== From defu.zhang@compaq.com Thu Sep 13 13:53:09 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from zmamail04.zma.compaq.com (zmamail04.zma.compaq.com [161.114.64.104]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72E44499 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by zmamail04.zma.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id 1B4D949F9; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:56:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cacexg11.americas.cpqcorp.net (cacexg11.cac.cpqcorp.net [16.105.248.80]) by zmamail04.zma.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88D23CF3 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:56:53 -0400 (EDT) content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: orinoco_cs 802.2 encapsulation/decaprulation problem Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:54:24 -0700 Message-ID: <9FFA13EBD965D1119BB700805FE646330C076430@excpla-19601.txp.cpqcorp.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: orinoco_cs 802.2 encapsulation/decaprulation problem Thread-Index: AcE8kvoIr7fOj0dYQx2UbIjrtBeMYg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4712.0 From: "Zhang, Defu" To: Cc: "Zhang, Defu" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Folks: Laptop running RedHat 7.1 upgraded kernel to Linux 2.4.9, compiled orinoco_cs as module. The WLAN card is ORiNOCO silver. From this laptop (installed with ORiNOCO silver), ping another PC on the same sub-network 98 bytes ICMP echo (ping) request message sent from laptop=20 The destination PC received the packet, and this packet becomes 106 bytes.=20 There are 8 bytes automatically added into the packet.=20 Before IP header, it adds: aa aa 03 00 00 f8 At the end of the packet, it adds: 41 43. The extra bytes are 802.2 SNAP ecapsulation bytes.=20 The destination PC IP stack does not understand the unknown 0xaaaa protocol type. ping was failed. If insert wired Ethernet card, the smae laptop and Linux OS works fine and ping was successful If installed with Win20000, the smae laptop and same silver-card works fine and ping was successful. Looks like this is the problem with orinoco_cs and silver card. Any body knows how to solve this problem? Thanks. Defu Zhang Compaq Telecom 1255 W. 15th Street, Suite 8000 Plano, TX 75075 Tel: 972-516-6033 From btuysser@yahoo.com Thu Sep 13 14:24:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from web10103.mail.yahoo.com (web10103.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.53]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 609AD4188 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010913212757.93535.qmail@web10103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.46.217.121] by web10103.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:27:57 PDT Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:27:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Bijan Tuysserkani Subject: Re: orinoco_cs 802.2 encapsulation/decaprulation problem To: "Zhang, Defu" , wireless@lists.samba.org Cc: "Zhang, Defu" In-Reply-To: <9FFA13EBD965D1119BB700805FE646330C076430@excpla-19601.txp.cpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Go into orinoco.c and change the field in the snap encapsulation header from 00 00 f8 to all 0s. - Bijan --- "Zhang, Defu" wrote: > Folks: > > Laptop running RedHat 7.1 upgraded kernel to Linux > 2.4.9, compiled > orinoco_cs as module. > The WLAN card is ORiNOCO silver. > > From this laptop (installed with ORiNOCO silver), > ping another PC on the > same sub-network > > 98 bytes ICMP echo (ping) request message sent from > laptop > The destination PC received the packet, and this > packet becomes > 106 bytes. > There are 8 bytes automatically added into the > packet. > Before IP header, it adds: aa aa 03 00 00 f8 > At the end of the packet, it adds: 41 43. > > The extra bytes are 802.2 SNAP ecapsulation bytes. > > The destination PC IP stack does not understand the > unknown 0xaaaa > protocol type. ping was failed. > > If insert wired Ethernet card, the smae laptop and > Linux OS works fine > and ping was successful > If installed with Win20000, the smae laptop and same > silver-card works > fine and ping was successful. > > Looks like this is the problem with orinoco_cs and > silver card. > > Any body knows how to solve this problem? > > Thanks. > > Defu Zhang > Compaq Telecom > 1255 W. 15th Street, Suite 8000 > Plano, TX 75075 > Tel: 972-516-6033 > > > > __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dgibson@samba.org Fri Sep 14 01:32:32 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id 401C04E25; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 01:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 18:31:51 +1000 From: David Gibson To: Bijan Tuysserkani Cc: "Zhang, Defu" , wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: orinoco_cs 802.2 encapsulation/decaprulation problem Message-ID: <20010914183151.I3851@zax> Mail-Followup-To: Bijan Tuysserkani , "Zhang, Defu" , wireless@lists.samba.org References: <9FFA13EBD965D1119BB700805FE646330C076430@excpla-19601.txp.cpqcorp.net> <20010913212757.93535.qmail@web10103.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010913212757.93535.qmail@web10103.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 02:27:57PM -0700, Bijan Tuysserkani wrote: > Go into orinoco.c and change the field in the > snap encapsulation header from 00 00 f8 to all 0s. Indeed that should fix it, but with recent versions of the driver it isn't necessary. Instead load the orinoco.o module with the "use_alternate_encaps=1" parameter. That will have the same effect. > > Folks: > > > > Laptop running RedHat 7.1 upgraded kernel to Linux > > 2.4.9, compiled > > orinoco_cs as module. > > The WLAN card is ORiNOCO silver. > > > > From this laptop (installed with ORiNOCO silver), > > ping another PC on the > > same sub-network > > > > 98 bytes ICMP echo (ping) request message sent from > > laptop > > The destination PC received the packet, and this > > packet becomes > > 106 bytes. > > There are 8 bytes automatically added into the > > packet. > > Before IP header, it adds: aa aa 03 00 00 f8 > > At the end of the packet, it adds: 41 43. > > > > The extra bytes are 802.2 SNAP ecapsulation bytes. > > > > The destination PC IP stack does not understand the > > unknown 0xaaaa > > protocol type. ping was failed. > > > > If insert wired Ethernet card, the smae laptop and > > Linux OS works fine > > and ping was successful > > If installed with Win20000, the smae laptop and same > > silver-card works > > fine and ping was successful. > > > > Looks like this is the problem with orinoco_cs and > > silver card. > > > > Any body knows how to solve this problem? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Defu Zhang > > Compaq Telecom > > 1255 W. 15th Street, Suite 8000 > > Plano, TX 75075 > > Tel: 972-516-6033 > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > Donate cash, emergency relief information > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ > > -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From adm@primus.com.au Fri Sep 14 06:46:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from sydml625.comtechcentral.com.au (unknown [203.18.194.29]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5E54F08 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 06:46:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mainbox ([202.74.152.29]) by sydml625.comtechcentral.com.au (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GJNNKC00.6F0 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 23:45:48 +1000 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010914234729.00967c20@pop.primus.com.au> X-Sender: adm@pop.primus.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 23:47:29 +1000 To: wireless@samba.org From: Andy MacDonald Subject: mini linux distro as a wireless router? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Guys. I'm trying to set up a 486 in the roof to cut down on signal loss. If anyone has any experience with a floppy linux distro set up to route aironet to ethernet, please give me some pointers. I'm totally clueless on how to go about it. Regards Andrew MacDonald adm@primus.com.au Canberra Australia Andy MacDonald's Flying Wing Page http://www.ozemail.com.au/~flyingwing From joe@air.net.au Fri Sep 14 07:25:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from mail013.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail013.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.174]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C671C4F89 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 07:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from joes.air.net.au (mitax1-122.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.222.122]) by mail013.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8EESwg03660 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 00:28:58 +1000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010915003140.0279fcc8@postoffice.air.net.au> X-Sender: joe@postoffice.air.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 00:35:48 +1000 To: wireless@samba.org From: Joe Maher Subject: Doe's anyone want a connection? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20010914234729.00967c20@pop.primus.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello All. Doe's anyone want to try a connection to me? I'm in Dunlop and I'm using one of the older ISA 2Mb/s wavelan cards. I have a setup PC and antenna with coax ready to be put in some ones house. Regards Joe Maher. From Robert.Edwards@anu.edu.au Fri Sep 14 20:21:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from cs.anu.edu.au (cs.anu.edu.au [150.203.164.35]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FEA84CCC for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 20:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from anu.edu.au (tux [150.203.160.12]) by cs.anu.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16721; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 13:25:11 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3BA2CA11.8A76B10B@anu.edu.au> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 13:25:05 +1000 From: Bob Edwards Organization: Australian National University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy MacDonald Cc: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: mini linux distro as a wireless router? References: <3.0.5.32.20010914234729.00967c20@pop.primus.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Andy MacDonald wrote: > > Hi Guys. > I'm trying to set up a 486 in the roof to cut down on signal loss. If > anyone has any experience with a floppy linux distro set up to route > aironet to ethernet, please give me some pointers. I'm totally clueless on > how to go about it. > > Regards > Andrew MacDonald > adm@primus.com.au > Canberra Australia > Andy MacDonald's Flying Wing Page > http://www.ozemail.com.au/~flyingwing I use etherboot to boot my router from a more accessible server. No moving parts in my router at all! Does require a bootrom on the router's ethernet card, though. The Linux Router Project (at www.linuxrouter.org) is a good starting point for a single floppy based router. I believe that it can be easily be configured to support Aironet cards, but I haven't done it myself. Cheers, Bob Edwards. From eyal@eyal.emu.id.au Fri Sep 14 20:39:23 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from e4.eyal.emu.id.au (CPE-61-9-148-200.vic.bigpond.net.au [61.9.148.200]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 415F041AA for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 20:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eyal.emu.id.au (eyal.emu.id.au [192.168.2.7]) by e4.eyal.emu.id.au (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f8F3pcu16458 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 13:51:38 +1000 Received: from eyal.emu.id.au (really [127.0.0.1]) by eyal.emu.id.au via in.smtpd with esmtp id (Debian Smail3.2.0.102) for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 13:33:17 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3BA2CBFD.B03F214@eyal.emu.id.au> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 13:33:17 +1000 From: Eyal Lebedinsky Organization: Eyal at Home X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.10-pre4 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: mini linux distro as a wireless router? References: <3.0.5.32.20010914234729.00967c20@pop.primus.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Andy MacDonald wrote: > > Hi Guys. > I'm trying to set up a 486 in the roof to cut down on signal loss. If > anyone has any experience with a floppy linux distro set up to route > aironet to ethernet, please give me some pointers. I'm totally clueless on > how to go about it. I did well with LRP http://www.linuxrouter.org Specifically, I used the LEAF distro http://lrp.steinkuehler.net -- Eyal Lebedinsky (eyal@eyal.emu.id.au) From stuart@coscom.net Mon Sep 17 07:41:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from kotter.podnet.net (unknown [203.89.68.222]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76A94C71 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 07:41:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from coscom.net (dual [192.168.1.2]) by kotter.podnet.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f8HFpH610480 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 01:51:17 +1000 Message-ID: <3BA60C1B.7090303@coscom.net> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 00:43:39 +1000 From: Stuart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9) Gecko/20010505 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: NCR systems access point Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Folks, I am hoping someone may be able to offer me some advice or may have had some experience with this product I have been wrestling with all day. I have been given the task of installing two (very old and ugly looking) wireless access points. The access points themselves have an ethernet interface (with coax, rj45 and AUI? inputs) and a wavelan interface. I am told they are old 2mb/s access points / bridges. They are cream colored boxes, rectangular with a bit jutting out for the power lead. They have 4 dip switches and a reset button. On top there are 3 leds. They seem to be for power, wlan and lan. They don't reveal much about themselves, all that is written on them is the following: - NCR Systems Engineering B.V. UTERCHT. - Class No: 3105 - Model Number: 0111 I presume this is useless information about voltages etc? - VAC. 100-125 - A. 0.4 - Hz. 50 - 60 - LR 76667 - VAC. 220-240 - A. 0.15 - Hz. 50 - 60 It also reveals further useless information like the fact that they were made in taiwan, mac addresses of the "wavelan" / "wired lan" interfaces and the product serial numbers. Taking the case off, I found a few chips (surprise, surprise!). The main chips are labeled XILINX, CHIPS, HARRIS/INTEL and another one with a very intel looking "i" on it. However, taking the second one apart, the chip labled XILINX was labeled AT&T. I have done quite a bit of searching on them today (including this list's archives) and have found very little. Information on NCR cards is all I have found. Ive been to wavelan.com, att.com, ncr.com and it hasn't helped me much. Searches on the class and model numbers don't seem to find anything and without a name for the product, I really don't know what I'm looking for. My main problem (I guess? besides possible authentication problems) is that I have no idea what the IP addresses are. I plugged one into a linux box with a crossover cable and ran tcpdump on the interface. It showed no traffic whatsoever. It didn't attempt to use a DHCP server, or send any broadcast traffic that I am aware of. The arp table obviously shows nothing. Does anyone know where I can find any documentation on these? What the dip switches do? If there is a way I can make it reveal it's ip address? If they are actually useful as nothing more than boat anchors? I'm pretty stumped on these. Any help would be great! Stuart From grail@goldweb.com.au Mon Sep 17 07:41:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from merlin.camelot.house (mitax1-147.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.222.147]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 949B94A7B for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 07:41:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.200.51] (pinky.camelot.house [192.168.200.51]) by merlin.camelot.house (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC62160801; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:49:39 +1000 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: grail@mail.camelot.house (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010911005842.B2565@shiva.marian> References: <3B9CB5E9.9080000@dcu.ie> <20010911005842.B2565@shiva.marian> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 00:44:00 +1000 To: Steven Hanley From: Alex Satrapa Subject: [Long Rant] Re: Encryption Question Cc: "wireless@lists.samba.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: At 00:58 +1000 2001-09-11, Steven Hanley wrote: >umm, okay, first off, the hardware encryption with wirelss cards is broken and >can not be relied on for any security at all. Anyone who wants to can rock up >with a standard laptop running linux and work out the key for the encryption >in about 15 minutes and thus have full access to all your data going across >wireless. First, sorry for the late reply. Don't discount WEP so readily. If you have a 128bit encryption card with encryption enabled, then the potential AirSnorter has to use a 128bit encryption card to sniff the connection. WEP as an obfuscation mechanism works at least as well as ROT14* - someone who's geared up to AirSnort on a clear or 64bit connection is like the script kiddy with the ROT13 decoder. It makes it just that little bit harder for: - Casual or "accidental" snooping - Script Kiddies using "standard" cards (as opposed to "Gold") Using WEP, especially with 128bit encryption, means that someone has to be monitoring your network with the intent of breaking in. Should you ever catch them physically (eg: you see the kid sitting out the front of the office with the laptop on the bike), it's much easier to prove intent. They were *trying* to break into your network. They weren't just WarDriving/Sailing/Riding. I do agree with Steven on the VPN bit - the network connected to the wireless access point should be treated as *less* trusted than The Internet. Kids *are* going to be lugging their wireless laptops around on bikes, they *are* going to find your network. 802.11 networks are the proverbial pots full of bragging rights at the end of the rainbow ("Mate - these people had access direct to the Internet over their wireless network, and guests had write access to their NT server, so I downloaded 1Gb of pr0n for them"). Have a host on that network that supports IPsec, PPPoE, PPTP or even PPP over SSH, and only allow "real" network access through this host. Do what you can to limit connections to the access point based on MAC address of the 802.11 cards (once again, this is obfuscation**). Do not allow routing between wired and wireless networks. Do not have any ports listening on the wireless network (except the VPN service). These are what I would consider part of setting up a wireless access point, even for "community" access. But at least enable WEP and MAC restrictions, since you then arm yourself with proof of intent, should you ever catch someone snooping around your wireless network. WEP and MAC restrictions are much like putting a 30cm high picket fence between your front lawn and the footpath. It provides a barrier which people have to consciously cross. If you see someone snooping around in your wireless network after you've enabled WEP and MAC restrictions, they didn't get there by accident. You can get exercise your righteous indignance. Alex *Yes, I mean ROT14. Absolutely transparent to someone who knows what they're doing, but totally opaque to the script kiddy with the ROT13 decoder. Of course the script kiddy with lots of money gets a ROT14 decoder and you're back to square 1. And with that, I'll cease my analogy of 128bit WEP as ROT14. **Security solely through obscurity is bad. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't use obscurity where it's cheap and effortless to implement. Obfuscation means that life is harder for script kiddies, and adds more ammo to your proof of intent argument. PS: Don't forget that wireless security works both ways. It's not just the sitting-on-desks bit of the network you have to secure, it's also the sitting-on-lap bit of the network you have to secure. It's no use locking down the access point tighter than a fish's [thing] if the laptop is left wide open. The "firewall" on the laptop (or even wireless desktop) needs to be as tight (if not tighter) than the access point "firewall". PPS: This opens up an activity which is the inverse of WarDriving. Rather than wandering around looking for networks that are open - how many people are wandering around with laptops that are happily chatting away on 802.11 to anyone who'll listen? I know some people who don't even know about turning off their PC Card ethernet when they leave the office, and I wouldn't expect them to understand about switching off the 802.11 card when they leave the office either. -- Alex Satrapa tSA Consulting Group Pty Limited ICQ: 5691434 1 Hall Street, Lyneham, Canberra 2603 PGP Key 0x4C178C9C fx: +61 2 6257 7311 ph: +61 2 6257 7111 PGP Fingerprint E4FA ADE6 97A4 3610 E008 A466 A03E 3D01 4C17 8C9C From stuart@coscom.net Mon Sep 17 07:43:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from kotter.podnet.net (unknown [203.89.68.222]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E141E49AA for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 07:43:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from coscom.net (dual [192.168.1.2]) by kotter.podnet.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f8HFrV610486 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 01:53:31 +1000 Message-ID: <3BA60CA2.8070309@coscom.net> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 00:45:54 +1000 From: Stuart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9) Gecko/20010505 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: NCR systems access point Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Folks, I am hoping someone may be able to offer me some advice or may have had some experience with this product I have been wrestling with all day. I have been given the task of installing two (very old and ugly looking) wireless access points. The access points themselves have an ethernet interface (with coax, rj45 and AUI? inputs) and a wavelan interface. I am told they are old 2mb/s access points / bridges. They are cream colored boxes, rectangular with a bit jutting out for the power lead. They have 4 dip switches and a reset button. On top there are 3 leds. They seem to be for power, wlan and lan. They don't reveal much about themselves, all that is written on them is the following: - NCR Systems Engineering B.V. UTERCHT. - Class No: 3105 - Model Number: 0111 I presume this is useless information about voltages etc? - VAC. 100-125 - A. 0.4 - Hz. 50 - 60 - LR 76667 - VAC. 220-240 - A. 0.15 - Hz. 50 - 60 It also reveals further useless information like the fact that they were made in taiwan, mac addresses of the "wavelan" / "wired lan" interfaces and the product serial numbers. Taking the case off, I found a few chips (surprise, surprise!). The main chips are labeled XILINX, CHIPS, HARRIS/INTEL and another one with a very intel looking "i" on it. However, taking the second one apart, the chip labled XILINX was labeled AT&T. I have done quite a bit of searching on them today (including this list's archives) and have found very little. Information on NCR cards is all I have found. Ive been to wavelan.com, att.com, ncr.com and it hasn't helped me much. Searches on the class and model numbers don't seem to find anything and without a name for the product, I really don't know what I'm looking for. My main problem (I guess? besides possible authentication problems) is that I have no idea what the IP addresses are. I plugged one into a linux box with a crossover cable and ran tcpdump on the interface. It showed no traffic whatsoever. It didn't attempt to use a DHCP server, or send any broadcast traffic that I am aware of. The arp table obviously shows nothing. Does anyone know where I can find any documentation on these? What the dip switches do? If there is a way I can make it reveal it's ip address? If they are actually useful as nothing more than boat anchors? I'm pretty stumped on these. Any help would be great! Stuart From bruce@basser0.cs.usyd.edu.au Mon Sep 17 10:03:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from staff.cs.usyd.edu.au (staff.cs.usyd.edu.au [129.78.8.1]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 20B3B4174 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 10:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 02:48:01 +1100 From: bruce@cs.usyd.edu.au (Bruce Janson) Subject: Re: NCR systems access point To: wireless@lists.samba.org Message-Id: <20010917170343.20B3B4174@lists.samba.org> Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Stuart, .. From: Stuart .. I am hoping someone may be able to offer me some advice or may have had some experience with this product I have been wrestling with all day. I have been given the task of installing two (very old and ugly looking) wireless access points. The access points themselves have an ethernet interface (with coax, rj45 and AUI? inputs) and a wavelan interface. I am told they are old 2mb/s access points / bridges. They are cream colored boxes, rectangular with a bit jutting out for the power lead. They have 4 dip switches and a reset button. On top there are 3 leds. They seem to be for power, wlan and lan. They don't reveal much about themselves, all that is written on them is the following: - NCR Systems Engineering B.V. UTERCHT. .. s/UTERCHT/UTRECHT/ It's in The Netherlands. - Class No: 3105 - Model Number: 0111 I presume this is useless information about voltages etc? - VAC. 100-125 - A. 0.4 - Hz. 50 - 60 - LR 76667 - VAC. 220-240 - A. 0.15 - Hz. 50 - 60 It also reveals further useless information like the fact that they were made in taiwan, mac addresses of the "wavelan" / "wired lan" interfaces and the product serial numbers. Taking the case off, I found a few chips (surprise, surprise!). The main chips are labeled XILINX, CHIPS, HARRIS/INTEL and another one with a very intel looking "i" on it. However, taking the second one apart, the chip labled XILINX was labeled AT&T. .. hasn't helped me much. Searches on the class and model numbers don't seem to find anything and without a name for the product, I really don't know what I'm looking for. .. They were called "Wavepoint"s. My main problem (I guess? besides possible authentication problems) is that I have no idea what the IP addresses are. I plugged one into a linux box with a crossover cable and ran tcpdump on the interface. It showed no traffic whatsoever. It didn't attempt to use a DHCP server, or send any broadcast traffic that I am aware of. The arp table obviously shows nothing. Does anyone know where I can find any documentation on these? What the dip switches do? If there is a way I can make it reveal it's ip address? If they are actually useful as nothing more than boat anchors? I'm pretty stumped on these. Any help would be great! .. If memory serves the Wavepoints were just simple bridges. You should be able to plug in an antenna and ethernet cable (perhaps thin coax, not RJ45 UTP) and it should start passing packets back and forth between the wired and wireless interfaces. The interfaces might not have had IP addresses but I do seem to remember that they responded to SNMP calls. (Sorry, I don't have a MIB.) NCR made them (along with the original WaveLANs) before AT&T bought them out. They predate the newer 802.11 wireless devices and so I don't expect that they will interoperate with newer wireless equipment. However, they certainly do work with the old WaveLAN 2Mbits/s, full-length ISA cards. Good luck getting them going. Regards, bruce. From David.Dominick@delta.com Mon Sep 17 10:37:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from satlmsghub03.delta-air.com (dragonfire3.delta.com [205.174.22.22]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAC5E4516 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 10:37:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by satlmsghub03.delta-air.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:52:01 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Dominick, David" To: 'Alex Satrapa' , Steven Hanley Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: [Long Rant] Re: Encryption Question Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:40:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I am sorry, but I am not sure where you get your information. That is wrong. The encryption is irrelevant to the way we break WEP. The Initialization Vector is 24 bit period. that does not change based on encryption size. The initialization vector in WEP is a 24-bit field, which is sent in the clear text part of a message. Such a small space of initialization vectors guarantees the reuse of the same key stream. A busy access point, which constantly sends 1500 byte packets at 11Mbps, will exhaust the space of IVs after 1500*8/(11*10^6)*2^24 = ~18000 seconds, or 5 hours. (The amount of time may be even smaller, since many packets are smaller than 1500 bytes.) This allows an attacker to collect two ciphertexts that are encrypted with the same key stream and perform statistical attacks to recover the plaintext. Worse, when the same key is used by all mobile stations, there are even more chances of IV collision. For example, a common wireless card from Lucent resets the IV to 0 each time a card is initialized, and increments the IV by 1 with each packet. This means that two cards inserted at roughly the same time will provide an abundance of IV collisions for an attacker. (Worse still, the 802.11 standard specifies that changing the IV with each packet is optional!) The first attack follows directly from the above observation. A passive eavesdropper can intercept all wireless traffic, until an IV collision occurs. By XORing two packets that use the same IV, the attacker obtains the XOR of the two plaintext messages. The resulting XOR can be used to infer data about the contents of the two messages. IP traffic is often very predictable and includes a lot of redundancy. This redundancy can be used to eliminate many possibilities for the contents of messages. Further educated guesses about the contents of one or both of the messages can be used to statistically reduce the space of possible messages, and in some cases it is possible to determine the exact contents. http://www.isaac.cs.berkeley.edu/isaac/wep-faq.html is one of a hundred examples I can send you as to how to break WEP without cracking the encryption. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Satrapa [mailto:grail@goldweb.com.au] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 10:44 AM To: Steven Hanley Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: [Long Rant] Re: Encryption Question At 00:58 +1000 2001-09-11, Steven Hanley wrote: >umm, okay, first off, the hardware encryption with wirelss cards is broken and >can not be relied on for any security at all. Anyone who wants to can rock up >with a standard laptop running linux and work out the key for the encryption >in about 15 minutes and thus have full access to all your data going across >wireless. First, sorry for the late reply. Don't discount WEP so readily. If you have a 128bit encryption card with encryption enabled, then the potential AirSnorter has to use a 128bit encryption card to sniff the connection. WEP as an obfuscation mechanism works at least as well as ROT14* - someone who's geared up to AirSnort on a clear or 64bit connection is like the script kiddy with the ROT13 decoder. It makes it just that little bit harder for: - Casual or "accidental" snooping - Script Kiddies using "standard" cards (as opposed to "Gold") Using WEP, especially with 128bit encryption, means that someone has to be monitoring your network with the intent of breaking in. Should you ever catch them physically (eg: you see the kid sitting out the front of the office with the laptop on the bike), it's much easier to prove intent. They were *trying* to break into your network. They weren't just WarDriving/Sailing/Riding. I do agree with Steven on the VPN bit - the network connected to the wireless access point should be treated as *less* trusted than The Internet. Kids *are* going to be lugging their wireless laptops around on bikes, they *are* going to find your network. 802.11 networks are the proverbial pots full of bragging rights at the end of the rainbow ("Mate - these people had access direct to the Internet over their wireless network, and guests had write access to their NT server, so I downloaded 1Gb of pr0n for them"). Have a host on that network that supports IPsec, PPPoE, PPTP or even PPP over SSH, and only allow "real" network access through this host. Do what you can to limit connections to the access point based on MAC address of the 802.11 cards (once again, this is obfuscation**). Do not allow routing between wired and wireless networks. Do not have any ports listening on the wireless network (except the VPN service). These are what I would consider part of setting up a wireless access point, even for "community" access. But at least enable WEP and MAC restrictions, since you then arm yourself with proof of intent, should you ever catch someone snooping around your wireless network. WEP and MAC restrictions are much like putting a 30cm high picket fence between your front lawn and the footpath. It provides a barrier which people have to consciously cross. If you see someone snooping around in your wireless network after you've enabled WEP and MAC restrictions, they didn't get there by accident. You can get exercise your righteous indignance. Alex *Yes, I mean ROT14. Absolutely transparent to someone who knows what they're doing, but totally opaque to the script kiddy with the ROT13 decoder. Of course the script kiddy with lots of money gets a ROT14 decoder and you're back to square 1. And with that, I'll cease my analogy of 128bit WEP as ROT14. **Security solely through obscurity is bad. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't use obscurity where it's cheap and effortless to implement. Obfuscation means that life is harder for script kiddies, and adds more ammo to your proof of intent argument. PS: Don't forget that wireless security works both ways. It's not just the sitting-on-desks bit of the network you have to secure, it's also the sitting-on-lap bit of the network you have to secure. It's no use locking down the access point tighter than a fish's [thing] if the laptop is left wide open. The "firewall" on the laptop (or even wireless desktop) needs to be as tight (if not tighter) than the access point "firewall". PPS: This opens up an activity which is the inverse of WarDriving. Rather than wandering around looking for networks that are open - how many people are wandering around with laptops that are happily chatting away on 802.11 to anyone who'll listen? I know some people who don't even know about turning off their PC Card ethernet when they leave the office, and I wouldn't expect them to understand about switching off the 802.11 card when they leave the office either. -- Alex Satrapa tSA Consulting Group Pty Limited ICQ: 5691434 1 Hall Street, Lyneham, Canberra 2603 PGP Key 0x4C178C9C fx: +61 2 6257 7311 ph: +61 2 6257 7111 PGP Fingerprint E4FA ADE6 97A4 3610 E008 A466 A03E 3D01 4C17 8C9C From sjh@svana.org Mon Sep 17 16:22:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E25CF4269 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:22:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from okda.anu.edu.au (shiva.marian) [150.203.160.23] by svana.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15j7oe-0006Yc-00; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:28:40 +1000 Received: from sjh by shiva.marian with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15j7n0-00011S-00 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:26:58 +1000 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:26:58 +1000 From: Steven Hanley To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Long Rant] Re: Encryption Question Message-ID: <20010918092658.A3912@shiva.marian> Reply-To: Steven Hanley References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Some Random Email Client Organization: much sought in this hectic world Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 01:40:35PM -0400, Dominick, David wrote: > I am sorry, but I am not sure where you get your information. That is wrong. > The encryption is irrelevant to the way we break WEP. The Initialization > Vector is 24 bit period. that does not change based on encryption size. Okay so the key can be obtained irrelevant of the hardware you use, however I would assume, and so did Alex I guess, that if you easily want to subsequently read all data going over the wireless network using 128 bit encryption, you need a card that supports 128 bit encryption, if you have obtained the key bit do not have a card that supports it how easy is it to use that key to read the traffic on the network? See You Steve -- sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh Look Up In The Sky Is it a bird? No Is it a plane No Is it a small blue banana? Yes From David.Dominick@delta.com Mon Sep 17 10:46:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from satlmsghub03.delta-air.com (dragonfire3.delta.com [205.174.22.22]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928854445 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 10:46:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by satlmsghub03.delta-air.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:01:25 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Dominick, David" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: [Long Rant] Re: Encryption Question Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:49:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01C13FA1.2A61EDB0" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C13FA1.2A61EDB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" -----Original Message----- From: Alex Satrapa [mailto:grail@goldweb.com.au] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 10:44 AM To: Steven Hanley Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: [Long Rant] Re: Encryption Question At 00:58 +1000 2001-09-11, Steven Hanley wrote: >umm, okay, first off, the hardware encryption with wirelss cards is broken and >can not be relied on for any security at all. Anyone who wants to can rock up >with a standard laptop running linux and work out the key for the encryption >in about 15 minutes and thus have full access to all your data going across >wireless. First, sorry for the late reply. Don't discount WEP so readily. If you have a 128bit encryption card with encryption enabled, then the potential AirSnorter has to use a 128bit encryption card to sniff the connection. WEP as an obfuscation mechanism works at least as well as ROT14* - someone who's geared up to AirSnort on a clear or 64bit connection is like the script kiddy with the ROT13 decoder. It makes it just that little bit harder for: - Casual or "accidental" snooping - Script Kiddies using "standard" cards (as opposed to "Gold") Using WEP, especially with 128bit encryption, means that someone has to be monitoring your network with the intent of breaking in. Should you ever catch them physically (eg: you see the kid sitting out the front of the office with the laptop on the bike), it's much easier to prove intent. They were *trying* to break into your network. They weren't just WarDriving/Sailing/Riding. I do agree with Steven on the VPN bit - the network connected to the wireless access point should be treated as *less* trusted than The Internet. Kids *are* going to be lugging their wireless laptops around on bikes, they *are* going to find your network. 802.11 networks are the proverbial pots full of bragging rights at the end of the rainbow ("Mate - these people had access direct to the Internet over their wireless network, and guests had write access to their NT server, so I downloaded 1Gb of pr0n for them"). Have a host on that network that supports IPsec, PPPoE, PPTP or even PPP over SSH, and only allow "real" network access through this host. Do what you can to limit connections to the access point based on MAC address of the 802.11 cards (once again, this is obfuscation**). Do not allow routing between wired and wireless networks. Do not have any ports listening on the wireless network (except the VPN service). These are what I would consider part of setting up a wireless access point, even for "community" access. But at least enable WEP and MAC restrictions, since you then arm yourself with proof of intent, should you ever catch someone snooping around your wireless network. WEP and MAC restrictions are much like putting a 30cm high picket fence between your front lawn and the footpath. It provides a barrier which people have to consciously cross. If you see someone snooping around in your wireless network after you've enabled WEP and MAC restrictions, they didn't get there by accident. You can get exercise your righteous indignance. Alex *Yes, I mean ROT14. Absolutely transparent to someone who knows what they're doing, but totally opaque to the script kiddy with the ROT13 decoder. Of course the script kiddy with lots of money gets a ROT14 decoder and you're back to square 1. And with that, I'll cease my analogy of 128bit WEP as ROT14. **Security solely through obscurity is bad. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't use obscurity where it's cheap and effortless to implement. Obfuscation means that life is harder for script kiddies, and adds more ammo to your proof of intent argument. PS: Don't forget that wireless security works both ways. It's not just the sitting-on-desks bit of the network you have to secure, it's also the sitting-on-lap bit of the network you have to secure. It's no use locking down the access point tighter than a fish's [thing] if the laptop is left wide open. The "firewall" on the laptop (or even wireless desktop) needs to be as tight (if not tighter) than the access point "firewall". PPS: This opens up an activity which is the inverse of WarDriving. Rather than wandering around looking for networks that are open - how many people are wandering around with laptops that are happily chatting away on 802.11 to anyone who'll listen? 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wireless@lists.samba.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:45:35 +0100 Received: by exchange-ims.lancs.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:45:35 +0100 Message-ID: <45EA1063C2F8D211915800204808343B01F0DEF2@exchange1.lancs.ac.uk> From: "Dent, Mike" To: "'wireless@lists.samba.org'" Subject: Legacy Wavelan stuff. Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:45:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I have begun setting up some wireless networking to my neighbours, we are going to share the cost of a SDSL link. I'm using a Wavepoint 1 unit and legacy wavelan cards in the neighbours PC's. I'd like to know if the Wavepoints will handle point to multi-point correctly. i.e. Do they some how poll the clients to see if they have any data to send? My concern is that not all the neighbours will be able to communicate with each other directly, due to antenna position etc but they can all communicate through the wavepoint bridge ok. Will they end up transmitting on top of each other or does the wavepoint/wavelan code take this kind of scenario in to account? thanks, Mike > -- > Mike Dent, > Chief Technician, > ISS, > Computer Centre, > Lancaster University, Lancaster, LA1 4YW. > > > From David.Dominick@delta.com Tue Sep 18 06:29:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from satlmsghub03.delta-air.com (dragonfire3.delta.com [205.174.22.22]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B704103 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 06:29:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by satlmsghub03.delta-air.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:44:29 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Dominick, David" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: [Long Rant] Re: Encryption Question Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:33:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I am not even sure you can still buy 40 Bit cards anymore. I know I haven't seen one from any of my vendors in about a year. There are several ways to break WEP. Only 1 or 2 end in you ever getting or needing the Key. WEP is stream cipher, so pretend this is the Matrix... the trick is to realize there is no key. -----Original Message----- From: Steven Hanley [mailto:sjh@wibble.net] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 7:27 PM To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Long Rant] Re: Encryption Question On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 01:40:35PM -0400, Dominick, David wrote: > I am sorry, but I am not sure where you get your information. That is wrong. > The encryption is irrelevant to the way we break WEP. The Initialization > Vector is 24 bit period. that does not change based on encryption size. Okay so the key can be obtained irrelevant of the hardware you use, however I would assume, and so did Alex I guess, that if you easily want to subsequently read all data going over the wireless network using 128 bit encryption, you need a card that supports 128 bit encryption, if you have obtained the key bit do not have a card that supports it how easy is it to use that key to read the traffic on the network? See You Steve -- sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh Look Up In The Sky Is it a bird? No Is it a plane No Is it a small blue banana? Yes From grail@goldweb.com.au Tue Sep 18 06:42:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from merlin.camelot.house (mitax1-173.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.222.173]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEC14522 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 06:42:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.200.51] (pinky.camelot.house [192.168.200.51]) by merlin.camelot.house (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5CC660801; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 14:50:39 +1000 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: grail@mail.camelot.house (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 23:45:04 +1000 To: "Dominick, David" From: Alex Satrapa Subject: Proof of Intent (was RE: [Long Rant] Re: Encryption Question) Cc: Steven Hanley , wireless@lists.samba.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: At 13:40 -0400 2001-09-17, Dominick, David wrote: >I am sorry, but I am not sure where you get your information. That is wrong. >The encryption is irrelevant to the way we break WEP. The Initialization >Vector is 24 bit period. that does not change based on encryption size. > >[quote snipped] > >http://www.isaac.cs.berkeley.edu/isaac/wep-faq.html > is one of a hundred examples I can send you as to how to break WEP without >cracking the encryption. News flash - picket fences and garden gnomes don't provide physical security either. The point of that part of my rant was that someone has to *try* to get in if you have WEP enabled. You wouldn't just stumble across someone's network if WEP was enabled. You'd have to get (up to) five hours worth of recorded traffic, either by parking your van outside the office for (up to) five hours, or by driving past slowly every few minutes to pick up a few seconds of traffic here, a few seconds there... until you got a IV collision. Like a picket fence out the front of your house, WEP provides a border indicator - "This is my place, please stay out." So let WEP stand for "Wireless Ethereal Picketfence", and you'll understand where I'm coming from. Picket fences only keep honest people out. The implication being that anyone who's entered your WEP network is either invited or has invaded. The WEP can serve as a proof of intent mechanism, Your Honour. Though how one would go apprehending the villain sitting out front your office in a Bedford truck with silvered windows... ring up the Police and say the guy's stealing your radio waves? Would catching someone in the middle of AirSnorting your WEP "protected" network be equivalent to catching someone with their lockpick in your front door lock? Would the Police be allowed to ask, "Sir, please show us the contents of your laptop?" as opposed to "Sir, please show us the contents of your duffel bag?" Would the Police even know what to look for? On a different tack, using MAC restrictions means - at the very least - that you and your friendly neighbour can have separate wireless networks without accidentally stomping all over each other's networks. It would be no fun at all if your DHCP server was responding to DHCP requests from your friend's network, would it? This isn't a privacy/security issue, it's a network integrity issue. WEP and MAC restrictions are trivial to bypass, but WEP requires some work (sniffing data for some time), and both bypasses require intent. For this reason alone, I would enable WEP and MAC restrictions just so that - on the off chance I caught someone snooping - I might successfully prosecute in a Court of Law. So I would use WEP, and I would use MAC restrictions - for polite privacy, to prevent network level interference, and because it's possible I could use attempts to bypass them as proof of intent. -- Alex Satrapa tSA Consulting Group Pty Limited ICQ: 5691434 1 Hall Street, Lyneham, Canberra 2603 PGP Key 0x4C178C9C fx: +61 2 6257 7311 ph: +61 2 6257 7111 PGP Fingerprint E4FA ADE6 97A4 3610 E008 A466 A03E 3D01 4C17 8C9C From zacca@jazi.net Tue Sep 18 08:42:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from busselton.jazi.net (unknown [203.43.238.206]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E97A4B78 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 08:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unimatrix1 [10.30.200.10] by busselton.jazi.net [10.30.200.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.PRO.v4.0.5.T) for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 23:54:51 +0800 Message-ID: <000701c14058$993c9a70$0ac81e0a@unimatrix1> From: "Zac" To: Subject: PCI to PCMCIA Adaptors Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 23:42:58 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-MDRemoteIP: 10.30.200.10 X-Return-Path: zacca@jazi.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Need to know which brands work under Linux - I'm looking at an Svec (based on an intel chipset) and Netgear (dunno what chipset). Any suggestions appreciated! :) From jason@topic.com.au Tue Sep 18 15:22:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailhost.topic.com.au (topic-gw2.topic.com.au [203.37.31.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DCA6445D for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:22:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.topic.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E88FF02F; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:26:13 +1000 (EST) Received: from bart.tsa (ext-gw2.ext.tsa [192.168.11.2]) by mailhost.topic.com.au (Postfix) with SMTP id A7902FF01D; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:26:10 +1000 (EST) Received: by bart.tsa (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:25:24 +1000 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:25:24 +1000 From: Jason Thomas To: Alex Satrapa Cc: "Dominick, David" , Steven Hanley , wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Proof of Intent (was RE: [Long Rant] Re: Encryption Question) Message-ID: <20010919082524.A22223@topic.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: Alex Satrapa , "Dominick, David" , Steven Hanley , wireless@lists.samba.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22i X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20010714 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable when you actually get a wireless network setup?? On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 11:45:04PM +1000, Alex Satrapa wrote: > So I would use WEP, and I would use MAC restrictions - for polite=20 > privacy, to prevent network level interference, and because it's=20 > possible I could use attempts to bypass them as proof of intent. --=20 Jason Thomas Phone: +61 2 6257 7111 System Administrator - UID 0 Fax: +61 2 6257 7311 tSA Consulting Group Pty. Ltd. Mobile: 0418 29 66 81 1 Hall Street Lyneham ACT 2602 http://www.topic.com.au/ --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE7p8nT7cYwRJJSiL4RApwlAKDV6OLtPpr2h2eDxWq2YGls7iETJQCg07Kj ZGrQ2cmm6/C8OoA465TnRtI= =sT6K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+-- From Jamz@AirNet.Com.AU Tue Sep 18 16:21:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from exchange01.airnet.com.au (apathy.tristesse.org [203.34.190.136]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C9D44B2 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by exchange01.office.adl.airnet.com.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:53:08 +0930 Message-ID: <9CA159BC716ED4119907009027F658335DBA28@exchange01.office.adl.airnet.com.au> From: Jamz@AirNet.Com.AU To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: Legacy Wavelan stuff. Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:53:07 +0930 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: If you are using the older type ISA WaveLAN cards, they don't handle the hidden transmitter problem at all and only really work effectively when they can all see each other. You could conceivably use a machine with two of the cards on different channels as a bridge, but people that have tried this reported leakage out of the cards causing interference problems across the channels. I am not familiar with your WavePoint 1 bridge but keep in mind the Legacy ISA WaveLAN cards are NOT 802.11 compliant. Sorry to be a bit of a downer, but I have had these problems and recently sold my ISA cards for just these reasons, as they were really only good for a single point-to-point setup. Cheers, Jamz. > -----Original Message----- > From: Dent, Mike [mailto:m.dent@lancaster.ac.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, 18 September 2001 7:15 PM > To: 'wireless@lists.samba.org' > Subject: Legacy Wavelan stuff. > Importance: Low > > Hi, I have begun setting up some wireless networking to my neighbours, we are > going to share the cost of a SDSL link. > I'm using a Wavepoint 1 unit and legacy wavelan cards in the neighbours PC's. > > I'd like to know if the Wavepoints will handle point to multi-point correctly. > i.e. Do they some how poll the clients to see if they have > any data to send? > > My concern is that not all the neighbours will be able to communicate with each > other directly, due to antenna position etc but they can > all communicate through the wavepoint bridge ok. Will they end up transmitting > on top of each other or does the wavepoint/wavelan > code take this kind of scenario in to account? > > thanks, > Mike > > > > -- > > Mike Dent, > > Chief Technician, > > ISS, > > Computer Centre, > > Lancaster University, Lancaster, LA1 4YW. > > > > > > From dgibson@samba.org Tue Sep 18 20:18:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id CB46146DB; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:18:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:19:54 +1000 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: help with D-Link DWL-650: a physical manifestation of pure evil Message-ID: <20010919131954.K13693@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <20010910045006.20643.qmail@web11302.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010910045006.20643.qmail@web11302.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 09:50:06PM -0700, Alex Deucher wrote: > I just bought a linksys wireless router, and a D-link > DWL-650 wireless ethernet card. I have now spent the > better part of 2 days trying to get this POS working. > How do you do it? I have tried just about every > Howto out there to get this card to work, but alas it > refuses. I'm using redhat 7.1 and kernel 2.4.9 using > the kernel pcmcia drivers. Initially I tried to use > the stock redhat kernel using wvlan_cs, but that did > not work. Next I tried to get it to work using the > orinoco_cs drivers. I built and installed 2.4.9 with > all the necessary options; I installed the wireless > utilities like iwconfig; I copied the hermes.conf file > over from the orinoco website and rebooted. the card > was detected, but got the: > > orinoco_cs: GetNextTuple: No more items Is this a laptop or PC with PCI/ISA <-> PCMCIA bridge? Are you using the pcmcia drivers from Linus' kernel tree or those from David Hinds PCMCIA package? -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From zacca@busselton.jazi.net Tue Sep 18 20:20:23 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from busselton.jazi.net (unknown [203.43.238.206]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F0B46EF for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:20:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unimatrix1 [10.30.200.10] by busselton.jazi.net [10.30.200.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.PRO.v4.0.5.T) for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:34:53 +0800 Message-ID: <015001c140ba$6175f660$0ac81e0a@unimatrix1> From: "Zac" To: Subject: Low-Loss Cable Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:22:58 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-MDRemoteIP: 10.30.200.10 X-Return-Path: zacca@busselton.jazi.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Could someone enlighten me to the types of low-loss cable that I need. I'm trying to source some locally, but nobody really knows what I'm talking about, or what C2FP is. They reckon I might be after RG213/214, but that's $11/m. They're asking me if it's coax or data cable, the ohmage, how many cores (i assumed one), and the type. Any help would be appreciated - don't want to get the wrong stuff. From mark@innaloo.net Tue Sep 18 20:31:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.eftel.com (sv2.per.eftel.com [203.24.100.147]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 366EE47B5 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc-mark.innaloo.net (staff-gw.eftel.com.au [203.16.9.138]) by mail.eftel.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A4B1BF4FB for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:34:50 +0800 (WST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20010919113618.00cb3ae0@mail.innaloo.net> X-Sender: digger@mail.innaloo.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:38:07 +0800 To: wireless@lists.samba.org From: Mark Dignam Subject: Re: Low-Loss Cable In-Reply-To: <015001c140ba$6175f660$0ac81e0a@unimatrix1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: At 11:22 AM 9/19/01 +0800, you wrote: >Could someone enlighten me to the types of low-loss cable that I need. > >I'm trying to source some locally, but nobody really knows what I'm talking >about, or what C2FP is. They reckon I might be after RG213/214, but that's >$11/m. > >They're asking me if it's coax or data cable, the ohmage, how many cores (i >assumed one), and the type. > >Any help would be appreciated - don't want to get the wrong stuff. Since your perth based, LMR400 from WA CB in Newcastle Street. He sells it by the meter and the N type connectors to suit. AND, one can not stress highly enough the quality of the N Type connectors can mean the difference between it working or not. mark. From steedman@bigpond.net.au Tue Sep 18 20:43:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mta05ps.bigpond.com (juicer51.bigpond.com [144.135.25.137]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 504FD44E9 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:43:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from woo ([144.135.25.81]) by mta05ps.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GJW5H900.7N1; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:53:33 +1000 Received: from CPE-144-132-139-49.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([144.132.139.49]) by psmam05.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9i 8410/11287075); 19 Sep 2001 13:53:33 Message-ID: <006801c140be$07289ab0$0a0aa8c0@woo> From: "Glen Steedman" To: , "Mark Dignam" References: <4.3.2.7.0.20010919113618.00cb3ae0@mail.innaloo.net> Subject: Re: Low-Loss Cable Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:49:04 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I ordered 2M of Lmr400 with both N connectors on the end from Rojone ( www.rojone.com.au ) just ordered via email and got by courier. Will set you back about $45ish plus postage I think from memory its $4.95 a M then the rest is for the N connectors and to assemble it. Cheers, Glen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Dignam" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 1:38 PM Subject: Re: Low-Loss Cable > At 11:22 AM 9/19/01 +0800, you wrote: > >Could someone enlighten me to the types of low-loss cable that I need. > > > >I'm trying to source some locally, but nobody really knows what I'm talking > >about, or what C2FP is. They reckon I might be after RG213/214, but that's > >$11/m. > > > >They're asking me if it's coax or data cable, the ohmage, how many cores (i > >assumed one), and the type. > > > >Any help would be appreciated - don't want to get the wrong stuff. > > Since your perth based, LMR400 from WA CB in Newcastle Street. He sells it by the meter and the N type connectors to suit. > > AND, one can not stress highly enough the quality of the N Type connectors can mean the difference between it working or not. > > mark. > > From bigmoe@hwy.com.au Tue Sep 18 20:44:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.hwy.com.au (unknown [210.10.124.5]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8CA2E44E9 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:44:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4083 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2001 03:48:05 -0000 Received: from tig81-ppp1.mudgee.hwy.com.au (HELO BIGMOE) (210.10.124.209) by naz.hwy.com.au with SMTP; 19 Sep 2001 03:48:05 -0000 Message-ID: <000901c140bd$7eeecb60$0100a8c0@BIGMOE> From: "Joel Moerkerk" To: References: <4.3.2.7.0.20010919113618.00cb3ae0@mail.innaloo.net> Subject: Re: Low-Loss Cable Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:45:15 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Also, tell the guys who are charging $11/m for RG-213 to get a new supplier, because they are been ripped off hardcore.. Shouldnt cost over $4.50 / m.. thats GME Electrophone stuff we use at work.. Joel [V8R] From agd5f@yahoo.com Wed Sep 19 07:09:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from web11301.mail.yahoo.com (web11301.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.204]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D2B4F4C24 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010919141045.11675.qmail@web11301.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [153.39.171.230] by web11301.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:10:45 PDT Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:10:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Deucher Subject: help with D-Link DWL-650: a physical manifestation To: david@gibson.dropbear.id.au, wireless@lists.samba.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Thanks to the help of this list, I eventually got the card working on my portege laptop. I initially just had the ignore_cis_vcc option in the wrong place. Once I got that straightened out, the card worked fine. That was with the pcmcia bridge set to PCIC mode. I changed it to Cardbus mode in the BIOS and now it works without the "ignore..." option, however, I sometimes have to eject and insert the card to have it be detected by the pcmcia subsystem. Most times it works fine. I suspect it is probably also running at 3.3 volts now that the controller is in cardbus mode. The only problem now is my Toshiba libretto 50ct laptop. It has no PCI bus, so no cardbus support, just 5 volt pcmcia. The card seems to work with the "ignore..." option, but as soon as I insert the card I get the "Tx timeout" error referenced on this page: http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Orinoco.html I tried excluding the irg that the card was initially using, but that didn't seem to help. Any suggestions? BTW, both laptops have 2.4.9 using kernel pcmcia drivers. Thanks, Alex On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 09:50:06PM -0700, Alex Deucher wrote: > I just bought a linksys wireless router, and a D-link > DWL-650 wireless ethernet card. I have now spent the > better part of 2 days trying to get this POS working. > How do you do it? I have tried just about every > Howto out there to get this card to work, but alas it > refuses. I'm using redhat 7.1 and kernel 2.4.9 using > the kernel pcmcia drivers. Initially I tried to use > the stock redhat kernel using wvlan_cs, but that did > not work. Next I tried to get it to work using the > orinoco_cs drivers. I built and installed 2.4.9 with > all the necessary options; I installed the wireless > utilities like iwconfig; I copied the hermes.conf file > over from the orinoco website and rebooted. the card > was detected, but got the: > > orinoco_cs: GetNextTuple: No more items Is this a laptop or PC with PCI/ISA <-> PCMCIA bridge? Are you using the pcmcia drivers from Linus' kernel tree or those from David Hinds PCMCIA package? __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dgibson@samba.org Wed Sep 19 20:16:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id 4C6B24143; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:16:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 12:09:36 +1000 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: help with D-Link DWL-650: a physical manifestation Message-ID: <20010920120936.A20058@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <20010919141045.11675.qmail@web11301.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010919141045.11675.qmail@web11301.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 07:10:45AM -0700, Alex Deucher wrote: > Thanks to the help of this list, I eventually got the > card working on my portege laptop. I initially just > had the ignore_cis_vcc option in the wrong place. > Once I got that straightened out, the card worked > fine. That was with the pcmcia bridge set to PCIC > mode. I changed it to Cardbus mode in the BIOS and > now it works without the "ignore..." option, however, > I sometimes have to eject and insert the card to have > it be detected by the pcmcia subsystem. Most times it > works fine. I suspect it is probably also running at > 3.3 volts now that the controller is in cardbus mode. > > The only problem now is my Toshiba libretto 50ct > laptop. It has no PCI bus, so no cardbus support, > just 5 volt pcmcia. The card seems to work with the > "ignore..." option, but as soon as I insert the card I > get the "Tx timeout" error referenced on this page: > > http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Orinoco.html > > I tried excluding the irg that the card was initially > using, but that didn't seem to help. Any suggestions? > > BTW, both laptops have 2.4.9 using kernel pcmcia > drivers. Since you're using the kernel pcmcia, you might want to check whether you're using the i82365 or the yenta_socket driver (see /etc/default/pcmcia or /etc/sysconfig/pcmcia, the PCIC variable). I've found that the yenta_socket driver seems to work rather better, -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From paul@messinthecorner.com Fri Sep 21 06:41:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from sslacces.com (unknown [64.23.82.108]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E4C64D92 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 06:41:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1327 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2001 13:39:03 -0000 Received: from cpe-144-132-229-251.nsw.bigpond.net.au (HELO memnoch) (144.132.229.251) by svs6452.sslacces.com with SMTP; 21 Sep 2001 13:39:03 -0000 Message-ID: <002401c142a4$f6308810$fbe58490@memnoch> From: "Paul De Audney" To: Subject: Canbera locations Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 23:54:21 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C142F8.BBAF6040" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C142F8.BBAF6040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi guys, my mum has gotten a new job in caberra. Im pretty sure there is = a network down there, any one know the locations of it, and if any one = is a member is there any more bandwidth for one more person? Regards,=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C142F8.BBAF6040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi guys, my mum has gotten a new job in = caberra. Im=20 pretty sure there is a network down there, any one know the locations of = it, and=20 if any one is a member is there any more bandwidth for one more=20 person?
 
Regards,
 
------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C142F8.BBAF6040-- From agd5f@yahoo.com Fri Sep 21 09:07:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from web11305.mail.yahoo.com (web11305.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.208]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C4BF84859 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 09:07:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010921161108.92359.qmail@web11305.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [153.39.171.230] by web11305.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 09:11:08 PDT Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 09:11:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Deucher Subject: help with D-Link DWL-650: a physical manifestation To: wireless@lists.samba.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Well, I finally got wireless working on my libretto. I'm not sure exactly what did it. yenta_socket, didn't work. When I tried that on the libretto I got the no card control found error. I changed it back to i82365, plugged in the card, and it worked. Not sure why. I tried for days before and no luck. oh well. (the only strange thing is that DHCP seems to send some trash characters to my resolv.conf file as well as the nameserver, could be a fluke though.) Also as a note on my Portege, I changed the card controller back to PCIC compatible and now the card is detected fine at boot up consistantly (unlike in Cardbus mode where you had to eject and insert the card to get it to come up). Weird. Thanks to all who helped, Alex ----------------------------------- On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 07:10:45AM -0700, Alex Deucher wrote: > Thanks to the help of this list, I eventually got the > card working on my portege laptop. I initially just > had the ignore_cis_vcc option in the wrong place. > Once I got that straightened out, the card worked > fine. That was with the pcmcia bridge set to PCIC > mode. I changed it to Cardbus mode in the BIOS and > now it works without the "ignore..." option, however, > I sometimes have to eject and insert the card to have > it be detected by the pcmcia subsystem. Most times it > works fine. I suspect it is probably also running at > 3.3 volts now that the controller is in cardbus mode. > > The only problem now is my Toshiba libretto 50ct > laptop. It has no PCI bus, so no cardbus support, > just 5 volt pcmcia. The card seems to work with the > "ignore..." option, but as soon as I insert the card I > get the "Tx timeout" error referenced on this page: > > http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Orinoco.html > > I tried excluding the irg that the card was initially > using, but that didn't seem to help. Any suggestions? > > BTW, both laptops have 2.4.9 using kernel pcmcia > drivers. Since you're using the kernel pcmcia, you might want to check whether you're using the i82365 or the yenta_socket driver (see /etc/default/pcmcia or /etc/sysconfig/pcmcia, the PCIC variable). I've found that the yenta_socket driver seems to work rather better, __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From mlambie@pacc.com.au Fri Sep 21 22:43:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail007.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail007.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.231]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF5F4108 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 22:43:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snakeeyes (perax4-232.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.81.232]) by mail007.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f8M5kpa13055 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 15:46:51 +1000 Message-ID: <014501c1432a$03843d10$0b00a8c0@snakeeyes> From: "Matthew Lambie" To: Subject: Aviator and Apple Airport Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 13:47:05 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0142_01C1436D.10C9EE50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0142_01C1436D.10C9EE50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone, My first foray into wireless networking. Yesterday we began collecting = Galaxy antenna from the local community. Got 4, and have another 5-6 to = get in a few days when the rain stops ;) Anyway... I have an Aviator 2.4 card in a Linux box and want to point it = at an Airport that is a fair distance away. Has anyone successfully = gotten the Airport to talk to an Aviator card? If so, does it work like = a switch and communicate to me at 2MB and the others at 11MB, because = there was concern that it would drop to 2MB for all connecting cards. I = have not tried any of this yet, but wanted to know what people had found = in their own experiments. Any help will be appreciated ;) Thanks, Matthew Lambie mlambie@pacc.com.au Software Engineer PACC Software Group ------=_NextPart_000_0142_01C1436D.10C9EE50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello everyone,
 
My first foray into wireless = networking. Yesterday=20 we began collecting Galaxy antenna from the local community. Got 4, and = have=20 another 5-6 to get in a few days when the rain stops ;)
 
Anyway... I have an Aviator 2.4 card in = a Linux box=20 and want to point it at an Airport that is a fair distance away. Has = anyone=20 successfully gotten the Airport to talk to an Aviator card? If so, does = it work=20 like a switch and communicate to me at 2MB and the others at 11MB, = because there=20 was concern that it would drop to 2MB for all connecting cards. I have = not tried=20 any of this yet, but wanted to know what people had found in their own=20 experiments.
 
Any help will be appreciated = ;)
 
Thanks,

Matthew Lambie
mlambie@pacc.com.au
Software=20 Engineer
PACC Software Group
------=_NextPart_000_0142_01C1436D.10C9EE50-- From grog@lemis.com Sat Sep 22 17:38:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E9CB416A for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 17:38:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B8E86AB08; Sun, 23 Sep 2001 10:12:13 +0930 (CST) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 10:12:12 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Matthew Lambie Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Aviator and Apple Airport Message-ID: <20010923101212.B5590@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <014501c1432a$03843d10$0b00a8c0@snakeeyes> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <014501c1432a$03843d10$0b00a8c0@snakeeyes>; from mlambie@pacc.com.au on Sat, Sep 22, 2001 at 01:47:05PM +0800 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] Your message was one line per paragraph. On Saturday, 22 September 2001 at 13:47:05 +0800, Matthew Lambie wrote: > Hello everyone, > > My first foray into wireless networking. Yesterday we began > collecting Galaxy antenna from the local community. Got 4, and have > another 5-6 to get in a few days when the rain stops ;) > > Anyway... I have an Aviator 2.4 card in a Linux box and want to > point it at an Airport that is a fair distance away. Has anyone > successfully gotten the Airport to talk to an Aviator card? If so, > does it work like a switch and communicate to me at 2MB and the > others at 11MB, because there was concern that it would drop to 2MB > for all connecting cards. I have not tried any of this yet, but > wanted to know what people had found in their own experiments. > Any help will be appreciated ;) Sorry, they're incompatible. The Aviator runs 802.11 FHSS, the Airport 802.11b DSSS. The speed difference isn't a problem, but the modulation technique is. Greg -- When replying to this message, please take care not to mutilate the original text. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/email.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers From mlambie@pacc.com.au Sat Sep 22 18:18:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail013.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail013.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.174]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E39E3411D for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 18:18:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snakeeyes (perax13-137.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.136.137]) by mail013.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f8N1L2g00567; Sun, 23 Sep 2001 11:21:06 +1000 Message-ID: <022701c143ce$150493b0$0b00a8c0@snakeeyes> From: "Matthew Lambie" To: "Greg Lehey" Cc: References: <014501c1432a$03843d10$0b00a8c0@snakeeyes> <20010923101212.B5590@wantadilla.lemis.com> Subject: Re: Aviator and Apple Airport Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 09:21:02 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Lehey" To: "Matthew Lambie" Cc: Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 8:42 AM Subject: Re: Aviator and Apple Airport > [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] > > Your message was one line per paragraph. > > On Saturday, 22 September 2001 at 13:47:05 +0800, Matthew Lambie wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > My first foray into wireless networking. Yesterday we began > > collecting Galaxy antenna from the local community. Got 4, and have > > another 5-6 to get in a few days when the rain stops ;) > > > > Anyway... I have an Aviator 2.4 card in a Linux box and want to > > point it at an Airport that is a fair distance away. Has anyone > > successfully gotten the Airport to talk to an Aviator card? If so, > > does it work like a switch and communicate to me at 2MB and the > > others at 11MB, because there was concern that it would drop to 2MB > > for all connecting cards. I have not tried any of this yet, but > > wanted to know what people had found in their own experiments. > > > Any help will be appreciated ;) > > Sorry, they're incompatible. The Aviator runs 802.11 FHSS, the > Airport 802.11b DSSS. The speed difference isn't a problem, but the > modulation technique is. > > Greg > -- Thanks for your help with this Greg. Matt Lambie From dave@woddy.net Thu Sep 27 22:48:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mss.rdc2.nsw.optushome.com.au (ha1.rdc2.nsw.optushome.com.au [203.164.2.50]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 562D240FB for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2001 22:48:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from woddy.net ([203.164.97.93]) by mss.rdc2.nsw.optushome.com.au (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010928055114.DXVN13193.mss.rdc2.nsw.optushome.com.au@woddy.net> for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2001 15:51:14 +1000 Message-ID: <3BB40F19.21279C9F@woddy.net> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 15:48:09 +1000 From: Dave X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Symbol AP-4121-1050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi People, Have any of you had any experience with the symbol AP-4121-1050 access point? It is supposedly a 802.11b compatible unit but I wanted to find out if anybody had got cards other than symbol's to talk to one of them as well as general ease of use. regards, dave. From michael@sixjay.com Fri Sep 28 21:32:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from mta04.mail.mel.aone.net.au (mta04.mail.au.uu.net [203.2.192.84]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4DD4128 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2001 21:32:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roadrunner.sixjay.com ([210.84.115.176]) by mta04.mail.mel.aone.net.au with ESMTP id <20010929043539.NCDL6258.mta04.mail.mel.aone.net.au@roadrunner.sixjay.com> for ; Sat, 29 Sep 2001 14:35:39 +1000 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010929142924.00a9c550@mail.sixjay.com> X-Sender: vm000216@mail.sixjay.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 14:30:07 +1000 To: wireless@samba.org From: Michael Miller Subject: 802.11b networking Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, Can anyone tell me if the various "base stations" are required for 802.11b networking or can you do it with just the wireless cards? Thanks in advance, Michael From sjh@svana.org Sat Sep 29 01:50:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99C7413F for ; Sat, 29 Sep 2001 01:50:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (shiva.marian) [150.203.160.123] by svana.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15nFvp-0001BC-00; Sat, 29 Sep 2001 18:57:09 +1000 Received: from sjh by shiva.marian with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15nFse-0002dv-00 for ; Sat, 29 Sep 2001 18:53:52 +1000 Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 18:53:52 +1000 From: Steven Hanley To: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: 802.11b networking Message-ID: <20010929185350.A10145@shiva.marian> Reply-To: Steven Hanley References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010929142924.00a9c550@mail.sixjay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010929142924.00a9c550@mail.sixjay.com> User-Agent: Some Random Email Client Organization: much sought in this hectic world Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 02:30:07PM +1000, Michael Miller wrote: > Hi, > > Can anyone tell me if the various "base stations" are required for 802.11b > networking or can you do it with just the wireless cards? > > Thanks in advance, works fine with just the cards, I use two cards at home, one in a machine attached to my home network with a pci<->pcmcia converter, and one in my laptop. The cards currently wont behave as base stations (well someone has written a driver to make the prismII based cards work as an AP however I have not tried it so have no idea if it works) All the 802.11b cards can probably behave as AP's however the manufacturers dont want to tell you how to make them do that unless you pay them lots of money. Using it in plain IBSS mode between all the cards works fine though so it is of little matter for a home network or something. I never worked out how to make MacOS speak to another cards direct in IBSS, but hey I dont use macos so didnt pursue it. I think windows can be made to speak to another card, however I also dont use windows. See You Steve -- sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh Look Up In The Sky Is it a bird? No Is it a plane No Is it a small blue banana? Yes From sjh@svana.org Sat Sep 29 02:12:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F232D43FC for ; Sat, 29 Sep 2001 02:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (shiva.marian) [150.203.160.123] by svana.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15nGHz-0001Cp-00; Sat, 29 Sep 2001 19:20:03 +1000 Received: from sjh by shiva.marian with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15nGEo-0002ff-00 for ; Sat, 29 Sep 2001 19:16:46 +1000 Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 19:16:46 +1000 From: Steven Hanley To: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: 802.11b networking Message-ID: <20010929191646.A10256@shiva.marian> Reply-To: Steven Hanley References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010929142924.00a9c550@mail.sixjay.com> <20010929185350.A10145@shiva.marian> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010929185350.A10145@shiva.marian> User-Agent: Some Random Email Client Organization: much sought in this hectic world Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 06:53:52PM +1000, Steven Hanley wrote: > The cards currently wont behave as base stations (well someone has written a > driver to make the prismII based cards work as an AP however I have not tried > it so have no idea if it works) woops, forgot to include the URI to the driver http://www.epitest.fi/Prism2/ and the author says he does not know if non PrismII cards can be a Base Station/Access Point without special firmware added in (what the manufacturers want to make you pay throuogh the nose for) David, any chance of your driver doing AP mode sometime for cards such as this? See You Steve -- sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh Look Up In The Sky Is it a bird? No Is it a plane No Is it a small blue banana? Yes From dgibson@samba.org Sun Sep 30 07:57:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id 4AF6E4365; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 07:57:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 01:00:29 +1000 From: David Gibson To: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: 802.11b networking Message-ID: <20011001010029.C24477@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@samba.org References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010929142924.00a9c550@mail.sixjay.com> <20010929185350.A10145@shiva.marian> <20010929191646.A10256@shiva.marian> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010929191646.A10256@shiva.marian> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 07:16:46PM +1000, Steven Hanley wrote: > On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 06:53:52PM +1000, Steven Hanley wrote: > > The cards currently wont behave as base stations (well someone has written a > > driver to make the prismII based cards work as an AP however I have not tried > > it so have no idea if it works) > > woops, forgot to include the URI to the driver > http://www.epitest.fi/Prism2/ > > and the author says he does not know if non PrismII cards can be a Base > Station/Access Point without special firmware added in (what the manufacturers > want to make you pay throuogh the nose for) > > David, any chance of your driver doing AP mode sometime for cards such as > this? Yes, I'm planning on merging the Host AP support (amongst other things) from this driver, although I don't know how long it will take. I've already been in touch with the driver's author, Jouni Malinen about how much we can usefully merge the two drivers. -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From mpretty@sunitafe.edu.au Sun Sep 30 20:10:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from pegasus.sunitafe.edu.au (pegasus.sunitafe.edu.au [203.17.112.35]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1AAE40C4 for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 20:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sunraysi4cl1hf ([10.0.1.15]) by pegasus.sunitafe.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA05031 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 13:10:29 +1000 From: "Mikel Pretty" To: "Wireless" Subject: Access points Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 13:13:52 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: does this mean i can use my WL210 Compaq PCI card as an access point cause if so that is WICKED. thanks Mikel From sjh@svana.org Sun Sep 30 20:17:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D754440E for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2001 20:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (shiva.marian) [150.203.160.123] by svana.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15ntgl-0003we-00; Mon, 01 Oct 2001 13:24:15 +1000 Received: from sjh by shiva.marian with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15ntd8-0003kv-00 for ; Mon, 01 Oct 2001 13:20:30 +1000 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 13:20:30 +1000 From: Steven Hanley To: Wireless WAN List Subject: Re: Access points Message-ID: <20011001132029.A14426@shiva.marian> Reply-To: Steven Hanley References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Some Random Email Client Organization: much sought in this hectic world Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 01:13:52PM +1000, Mikel Pretty wrote: > does this mean i can use my WL210 Compaq PCI card as an access point cause > if so that is WICKED. If you are referring to that driver I posted the link to earlier, yes it will work as an access point, as will the D-Link DWL-650. The author has tested these cards and found them to work. See You Steve -- sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh Look Up In The Sky Is it a bird? No Is it a plane No Is it a small blue banana? Yes From jm@jm.epitest.fi Mon Oct 1 05:39:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from jm.epitest.fi (d248-126.arenanet.fi [194.241.248.126]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 10C4E4240 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 05:39:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 29796 invoked by uid 500); 1 Oct 2001 12:42:12 -0000 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 15:42:12 +0300 From: Jouni Malinen To: Wireless WAN List Subject: Re: Access points Message-ID: <20011001154212.A29471@jm.epitest.fi> References: <20011001132029.A14426@shiva.marian> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011001132029.A14426@shiva.marian>; from sjh@svana.org on Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 01:20:30PM +1000 X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1 (http://amavis.org/) Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 01:20:30PM +1000, Steven Hanley wrote: > On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 01:13:52PM +1000, Mikel Pretty wrote: > > does this mean i can use my WL210 Compaq PCI card as an access point cause > > if so that is WICKED. > > If you are referring to that driver I posted the link to earlier, yes it will > work as an access point, as will the D-Link DWL-650. The author has tested > these cards and found them to work. No, it won't work as an AP with Compaq WL210. However, it works with WL200 which is completely different card (Prism2-based whereas WL210 is Lucent/Agere/whatever as far as I know). -- Jouni Malinen PGP id EFC895FA From boon73@pd.jaring.my Mon Oct 1 10:28:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from smtp3.jaring.my (smtp3.jaring.my [61.6.32.53]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A994E4678 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 10:20:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from earth (j86.sbu33.jaring.my [161.142.160.100]) by smtp3.jaring.my (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id f91HN0p03009 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 01:23:02 +0800 (MYT) Message-ID: <000a01c14a9d$aeaa45c0$64a08ea1@earth> From: "Si Kian Boon" To: Subject: WLAN Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 01:22:40 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C14AE0.BA481360" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C14AE0.BA481360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am interest to setup a wireless internet local area network within = 5km. 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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C14AE0.BA481360-- From lrich@ruralnet.net.au Mon Oct 1 15:36:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from scully.ruralnet.net.au (scully.ruralnet.net.au [203.13.168.7]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25C44749 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 15:36:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by scully.ruralnet.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA00565 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 09:10:12 +1000 From: lrich@ruralnet.net.au X-Authentication-Warning: scully.ruralnet.net.au: nobody set sender to lrich@ruralnet.net.au using -f To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Waht is the prefered card for Access Points? Message-ID: <1001977812.3bb8f7d4295c2@webmail.ruralnet.net.au> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 09:10:12 +1000 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.1 X-Originating-IP: 203.22.17.152 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: If the wl210 isnt the go , then what is? Who has run what card as an AP? From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Mon Oct 1 19:37:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8DC4167 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 19:37:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id TAA18859; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 19:40:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id TAA08380; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 19:40:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15oFTb-00043q-00; Mon, 01 Oct 2001 19:40:07 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 19:40:07 -0700 To: David Gibson , Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Fixup for latest Symbol firmware in orinoco_cs... Message-ID: <20011001194007.B15582@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="2B/JsCI69OhZNC5r" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --2B/JsCI69OhZNC5r Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi, Somebody provided me a 3Com card with the latest Symbol firmware, so I took the opportunity to get it to work with orinoco_cs and fix the firware detection for those cards. Bottom line : card works fine, but no power management in latest firmware. IBSS with a Orinoco is a bit weird, but IBSS between two Symbol cards works ok. David : can you process this patch ? It's tested and ready... Jean --2B/JsCI69OhZNC5r Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ori_symbol.v2.2-2.diff" diff -u -p -r linux/drivers/net/wireless.10/hermes.h linux/drivers/net/wireless/hermes.h --- linux/drivers/net/wireless.10/hermes.h Fri Sep 28 22:58:35 2001 +++ linux/drivers/net/wireless/hermes.h Tue Oct 2 01:09:52 2001 @@ -50,6 +50,7 @@ #define HERMES_FRAME_LEN_MAX (2304) #define HERMES_MAX_MULTICAST (16) #define HERMES_MAGIC (0x7d1f) +#define HERMES_SYMBOL_MAX_VER (14) /* * Hermes register offsets @@ -202,8 +203,7 @@ #define HERMES_RID_WEP_AVAIL (0xfd4f) #define HERMES_RID_CURRENT_CHANNEL (0xfdc1) #define HERMES_RID_DATARATES (0xfdc6) -#define HERMES_RID_SYMBOL_PRIMARY_VER (0xfd03) -#define HERMES_RID_SYMBOL_SECONDARY_VER (0xfd21) +#define HERMES_RID_SYMBOL_SECONDARY_VER (0xfd24) #define HERMES_RID_SYMBOL_KEY_LENGTH (0xfc2B) /* diff -u -p -r linux/drivers/net/wireless.10/orinoco.c linux/drivers/net/wireless/orinoco.c --- linux/drivers/net/wireless.10/orinoco.c Fri Sep 28 22:58:35 2001 +++ linux/drivers/net/wireless/orinoco.c Tue Oct 2 02:04:15 2001 @@ -190,6 +190,14 @@ * Rx path, but don't make as much noise about it. * o Firmware detection cleanups. * + * v0.07 -> v0.07a - 1/10/2001 - Jean II + * o Add code to read Symbol firmware revision, inspired by latest code + * in Spectrum24 by Lee John Keyser-Allen - Thanks Lee ! + * o Thanks to Jared Valentine for "providing" me + * a 3Com card with a recent firmware, fill out Symbol firmware + * capabilities of latest rev (2.20), as well as older Symbol cards. + * o Disable Power Management in newer Symbol firmware, the API + * has changed (documentation needed). * * TODO - Jean II * o inline functions (lot's of candidate, need to reorder code) @@ -1286,7 +1294,7 @@ static void determine_firmware(struct ne if (sta_id.vendor == 1) { /* Lucent Wavelan IEEE, Lucent Orinoco, Cabletron RoamAbout, - ELSE, Meloc, HP, IBM, Dell 1150 */ + ELSA, Melco, HP, IBM, Dell 1150, Compaq 110/210 */ printk(KERN_DEBUG "%s: Looks like a Lucent/Agere firmware " "version %d.%02d\n", dev->name, sta_id.major, sta_id.minor); @@ -1303,7 +1311,7 @@ static void determine_firmware(struct ne priv->has_big_wep = 1; /* FIXME: this is wrong - how do we tell Gold cards from the others? */ priv->has_mwo = (firmver >= 0x60000); - priv->has_pm = (firmver >= 0x40020); + priv->has_pm = (firmver >= 0x40020); /* Don't work in 7.52 ? */ priv->has_preamble = 0; priv->ibss_port = 1; /* Tested with Lucent firmware : @@ -1314,27 +1322,59 @@ static void determine_firmware(struct ne /* Symbol , 3Com AirConnect, Intel, Ericsson WLAN */ /* Intel MAC : 00:02:B3:* */ /* 3Com MAC : 00:50:DA:* */ + union symbol_sta_id { + char raw[HERMES_SYMBOL_MAX_VER]; + char string[HERMES_SYMBOL_MAX_VER + 1]; + } symbol_sta_id; + + /* Get the Symbol firmware version */ + err = HERMES_READ_RECORD(hw, USER_BAP, + HERMES_RID_SYMBOL_SECONDARY_VER, + &(symbol_sta_id.raw)); + if (err) { + printk(KERN_WARNING "%s: Error %d reading Symbol firmware info. Wildly guessing capabilities...\n", + dev->name, err); + firmver = 0; + symbol_sta_id.string[0] = '\0'; + } else { + /* The firmware revision is a string, the format is + * something like : "V2.20-01". + * Quick and dirty parsing... - Jean II + */ + firmver = ((symbol_sta_id.raw[1] - '0') << 16) + | ((symbol_sta_id.raw[3] - '0') << 12) + | ((symbol_sta_id.raw[4] - '0') << 8) + | ((symbol_sta_id.raw[6] - '0') << 4) + | (symbol_sta_id.raw[7] - '0'); + + symbol_sta_id.string[HERMES_SYMBOL_MAX_VER] = '\0'; + } + printk(KERN_DEBUG "%s: Looks like a Symbol firmware " - "(unknown version)\n", dev->name); + "version [%s] (parsing to %X)\n", dev->name, + symbol_sta_id.string, firmver); - /* FIXME : we need to get Symbol firmware revision. - * I tried to use SYMBOL_***ARY_VER, but it didn't - * returned anything proper... */ priv->firmware_type = FIRMWARE_TYPE_SYMBOL; priv->tx_rate_ctrl = 0xF; /* 11 Mb/s auto */ priv->need_card_reset = 1; priv->broken_reset = 0; priv->broken_allocate = 1; priv->has_port3 = 1; - priv->has_ibss = 1; /* FIXME */ - priv->has_wep = 1; /* FIXME */ - priv->has_big_wep = 1; /* RID_SYMBOL_KEY_LENGTH */ + priv->has_ibss = (firmver >= 0x20000); + priv->has_wep = (firmver >= 0x15012); + priv->has_big_wep = (firmver >= 0x20000); priv->has_mwo = 0; - priv->has_pm = 1; /* FIXME */ - priv->has_preamble = 0; /* FIXME */ + priv->has_pm = (firmver >= 0x20000) && (firmver < 0x22000); + priv->has_preamble = (firmver >= 0x20000); priv->ibss_port = 4; - /* Tested with Intel firmware : v15 => Jean II */ + /* Tested with Intel firmware : 0x20015 => Jean II */ + /* Tested with 3Com firmware : 0x15012 & 0x22001 => Jean II */ } else { + /* D-Link, Linksys, Adtron, ZoomAir, and many others... + * Samsung, Compaq 100/200 and Proxim are slightly + * different and less well tested */ + /* D-Link MAC : 00:40:05:* */ + /* Addtron MAC : 00:90:D1:* */ printk(KERN_DEBUG "%s: Looks like an Intersil firmware " "version %d.%02d\n", dev->name, sta_id.major, sta_id.minor); diff -u -p -r linux/drivers/net/wireless.10/orinoco.h linux/drivers/net/wireless/orinoco.h --- linux/drivers/net/wireless.10/orinoco.h Fri Sep 28 22:58:49 2001 +++ linux/drivers/net/wireless/orinoco.h Tue Oct 2 01:12:19 2001 @@ -25,7 +25,7 @@ #define DLDWD_MACPORT 0 #define IRQ_LOOP_MAX 10 #define TX_NICBUF_SIZE 2048 -#define TX_NICBUF_SIZE_BUG 1585 /* Bug in Intel firmware */ +#define TX_NICBUF_SIZE_BUG 1585 /* Bug in Symbol firmware */ #define MAX_KEYS 4 #define MAX_KEY_SIZE 14 #define LARGE_KEY_SIZE 13 @@ -110,7 +110,7 @@ extern struct list_head dldwd_instances; #ifdef ORINOCO_DEBUG extern int dldwd_debug; -#define DEBUG(n, args...) if (dldwd_debug>(n)) printk(KERN_DEBUG args) +#define DEBUG(n, args...) do { if (dldwd_debug>(n)) printk(KERN_DEBUG args); } while(0) #define DEBUGMORE(n, args...) do { if (dldwd_debug>(n)) printk(args); } while (0) #else #define DEBUG(n, args...) do { } while (0) --2B/JsCI69OhZNC5r-- From wattsg@laboratory.innaloo.net Tue Oct 2 09:32:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from laboratory.innaloo.net (hertha.innaloo.net [203.15.92.14]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 469024407 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 09:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (wattsg@localhost) by laboratory.innaloo.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA19491 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 00:35:04 +0800 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 00:35:04 +0800 (WST) From: Geoff Watts To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: success with modifying galaxy 24dbi! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi people, Matt Lambie and co-consipirators halfinched a few 24dbi galaxy antennas from some outlaying suburbs here in Perth, and I happened to come by one of them through persuasion. Tonight, i modified it with some belden 9913 and a reasonably cheap N-type from dick smith, all up cost about $20 (had some 9913 hanging around). Performance seems to be roughly at or better than the commercial 24dbi conifers(!) .. even though they're the same antenna. Testing involved heading to Raebold Hill, in Floreat in Perth, and pointing in the general direction of our access point. Length of the link was 5.1kms (according to the gps), with an 18dbi conifer patch antenna at the other end. We had the signal at 3/4 of the scale on the cabletron roamabout wince drivers, and according to karnet's configurator talking to our airport, about 70%. That's f'n brilliant. I highly recommend the galaxy 24dbi antennas! geoff. From stefan@ghosthouse.cx Tue Oct 2 15:59:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail013.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail013.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.174]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC2945A8 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 15:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flyghost (rocax2-140.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.153.140]) by mail013.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f92N2Mg23682 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 09:02:22 +1000 Message-ID: <02dc01c14b96$07462660$c100a8c0@ghosthouse.cx> From: "Stefan Rodenburg" To: Subject: license Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 09:00:26 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello, I am new on the list and was wondering if there is a need for a carrier license if a commercial ISP would setup a wireless network. Or are there ways around this ? Greets Stefan Rodenburg QLD From stefan@ghosthouse.cx Tue Oct 2 19:53:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail012.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail012.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.172]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 683504B5E for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 19:51:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flyghost (rocax2-140.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.153.140]) by mail012.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f932sWm29623 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 12:54:32 +1000 Message-ID: <02e801c14bb6$76413300$c100a8c0@ghosthouse.cx> From: "Stefan Rodenburg" To: References: <02dc01c14b96$07462660$c100a8c0@ghosthouse.cx> <01b001c14b98$c1e7f140$6af0740a@qed.qld.gov.au> Subject: Re: license Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 12:52:36 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I am in the rockhampton area. > where in qld are you > we are currently setting up a network on the sunshine coast?????? > Len Falknau > Network Administrator > Sunshine Beach High School/Yandina State School > Ph/Voice mail 07 54404253 > Email len.falknau@sunsbeacshs.qld.edu.au > Private Email len@scarc.net > Send an email to my mobile > 0412070325@mobemail.com.au > subject must be sms > message no longer that 120 characters > Mobile Ph 0412 070325 > Fax 07 54404200 > > "This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended > solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed." > Any content expressed in this email are personal views and do not represent > the views of the Education Dept. > From teddy@angin.com Wed Oct 3 10:07:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from Gadis-Manado (unknown [202.77.117.226]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5493D4B17 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2001 10:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by Gadis-Manado ("Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3",MS-BackOffice4.1) id E01DC1B483; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 00:09:50 +0700 (WIT) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 00:09:50 +0700 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Orinoco on Compaq Deskpro 4000, HELP !!!! Message-ID: <20011004000950.A23428@Gadis-Manado> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i From: teddy@angin.com (Tedd Anderson) Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I'm using Lucent Orinoco PCMCIA Card with ISA-PCMCIA Adapter in Debian Woody kernel 2.4.9 on Compaq Deskpro 4000. But I get some error messages : 'eth1: failed to reset hardware (err = -19)' 'orinoco_cs: register_netdev() failed' while initialized a Card, and ORinoco not worked. Can anyone explain me what these error messages mean ? ---------------------------------------- Oct 2 22:50:28 satu kernel: unloading Kernel Card Services Oct 2 22:50:28 satu kernel: Linux Kernel Card Services 3.1.22 Oct 2 22:50:28 satu kernel: options: [pci] [cardbus] Oct 2 22:50:29 satu kernel: Intel PCIC probe: Oct 2 22:50:29 satu kernel: Vadem VG-469 ISA-to-PCMCIA at port 0x3e0 ofs 0x00, 2 sockets Oct 2 22:50:29 satu kernel: host opts [0]: none Oct 2 22:50:29 satu kernel: host opts [1]: none Oct 2 22:50:29 satu kernel: ISA irqs (scanned) = 3,4,5,9,10 status change on irq 10 Oct 2 22:50:30 satu kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0240-0x0400: excluding 0x378-0x37f 0x398-0x39f Oct 2 22:50:30 satu kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: excluding 0xc00-0xc07 0xc10-0xc17 0xc48-0xc57 0xc68-0xc6f 0xcd0-0xcd7 Oct 2 22:50:30 satu kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0800-0x08ff: clean. Oct 2 22:50:30 satu kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean. Oct 2 22:50:30 satu kernel: cs: memory probe 0x0d0000-0x0dffff: clean. Oct 2 22:50:30 satu kernel: hermes.c: 1 Aug 2001 David Gibson Oct 2 22:50:30 satu kernel: orinoco.c 0.06f (David Gibson and others) Oct 2 22:50:30 satu kernel: dldwd: David's Less Dodgy WaveLAN/IEEE Driver Oct 2 22:50:30 satu kernel: orinoco_cs.c 0.06f (David Gibson and others) Oct 2 22:50:31 satu kernel: eth1: failed to reset hardware (err = -19) Oct 2 22:50:31 satu kernel: orinoco_cs: register_netdev() failed ----------------------------------------- satu:/usr/src# cat /proc/iomem 00000000-0009efff : System RAM 000a0000-000bffff : Video RAM area 000c0000-000c7fff : Video ROM 000d0000-000d0fff : card services 000f0000-000fffff : System ROM 00100000-01ffffff : System RAM 00100000-0020bc0f : Kernel code 0020bc10-0026ce5b : Kernel data 40000000-4000000f : Compaq Computer Corporation Integrated NetFlex-3/P 41000000-41ffffff : Cirrus Logic GD 5446 ------------------------------------------ satu:/usr/src# cat /proc/ioports 0000-001f : dma1 0020-003f : pic1 0040-005f : timer 0060-006f : keyboard 0080-008f : dma page reg 00a0-00bf : pic2 00c0-00df : dma2 00f0-00ff : fpu 0170-0177 : Compaq Computer Corporation Triflex Dual EIDE Controller 0170-0177 : ide1 01f0-01f7 : Compaq Computer Corporation Triflex Dual EIDE Controller 01f0-01f7 : ide0 02f8-02ff : serial(set) 0376-0376 : Compaq Computer Corporation Triflex Dual EIDE Controller 0376-0376 : ide1 03c0-03df : vga+ 03e0-03e1 : i82365 03f6-03f6 : Compaq Computer Corporation Triflex Dual EIDE Controller 03f6-03f6 : ide0 03f8-03ff : serial(auto) 0cf8-0cff : PCI conf1 1000-100f : Compaq Computer Corporation Integrated NetFlex-3/P 1000-100f : TLAN 1010-101f : Compaq Computer Corporation Triflex Dual EIDE Controller 1010-1017 : ide0 1018-101f : ide1 -------------------------------- Thanks Tedd. From Bjoern.Brauel@softwareag.com Thu Oct 4 04:43:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from server1.software-ag.de (server1.software-ag.de [193.26.194.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 001D24109 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 04:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6B2492D663ECD4119EB70008C7E6F673010C46A4@softwareag.com> From: "Brauel, Bjoern" To: "'wireless@lists.samba.org'" Subject: orinoco driver and arm Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 13:46:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi everyone, I wanted to raise the issue with the orinoco driver on arm processors (probably again, as Davids readme already says something about it). It is true that the driver in its current form cannot work on arm machines (I have an IPaq) due to whe misalignment of the dldwd_frame_hdr structure. In fact it is the hermes_frame_desc_t struct that causes the problem. The hermes_frame_desc_t is normally exactly 14 bytes in size, but the gcc on arm will always align it to 16 bytes. I actually don't believe this is a bug ! The arm processors always want to have 4-byte aligned adresses, so the 14 bytes struct indeed has to be aligned. -mstructure-size-boundary=8 doesn't fix that problem ! What I'd like to know is how to proceed from here. I changed the orinoco.c in order to use a plain dldwd_frame_hdr struct not referencing any other structs. Some other changes were needed to make this working but now I can use the orinoco driver on my ipaq and it seems to work just fine. But I am really not sure if having a plain struct is a good idea, cause it will "duplicate" the structs from other headers (hermes_drame_desc_t and ethhdr in particular) cause when they change , the orinoco code is broken. But will eg. ethhdr ever change ? So what do you guys think about how to proceed. Should the handhelds cvs adopt the plain struct, or will there be a solution within orinoco ? cheers .. Bjoern From boettger@hknet.com Thu Oct 4 09:10:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from emethist.hknet.com (emethist.hknet.com [202.67.240.233]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FC664E2A for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 09:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from citylan1 (vp164155.hk.uac1.hknet.com [203.169.164.155]) by emethist.hknet.com with ESMTP id AAA00442; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 00:13:10 +0800 (HKT) From: "David Boettger" To: Cc: "Dave Anderson (personal)" Subject: ORiNOCO/Linux-Mandrake nightmare - for the love of God, please help me Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 00:13:09 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi- I'm having an incredibly strange problem with my ORiNOCO/Linux setup. I've spent over a week on this problem and I'm at the limit of my (admittedly limited) knowledge. Frankly, I don't know if this is an orinoco_cs problem or not, but I don't know how to rule it out yet. Here's the setup: Fujitsu Lifebook C-6556 Lucent ORiNOCO silver card Lucent ORiNOCO RG-1000 access point in gateway (NAT) mode Linux-Mandrake 8.0 (kernel PCMCIA disabled) PCMCIA-CS 3.1.29 (latest) orinoco_cs (whatever comes with 3.1.29 of PCMCIA-CS) Wireless Tools 20 (latest) DHCP via dhcpcd The problem I'm having is as follows. PCMCIA-CS compiles and installs beautifully. I'm 99% sure I've configured /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts and /etc/pcmcia/config properly because I get no errors during boot (or in syslog or boot.log), plus I get two high beeps. /proc/wireless/net is also updated with RF measurements in real-time, meaning the card has associated with the AP. Further ifconfig's output looks fine (IP address/net mask/broadcast address assigned) and iwconfig's output looks fine (ESSID/encryption key okay). Now, the first problem is that it takes 40+ seconds to get the DHCP grant during boot. I've done some test using Ethereal (post-boot) and I'm sure what's happening is that the Linux box is trying to do a DNS lookup on its OWN IP address, e.g., 2.1.0.10.in_addr.arpa. I have no idea why it's doing this or how to stop it. This happens again if I do "ifdown eth0; ifup eth0". Second, I can ping the AP (10.0.1.1), and I can dig an Internet host (dig google.com), and I can ping an Internet host by IP address (ping 216.239.32.10), but - here's the pisser - "ping google.com" times out. Ethereal shows that the DNS lookup on google.com IS working, but then the Linux box is sending an ICMP "destination unreachable (port unreacheable)" message back to the DNS server and then giving up! Naturally, I can't do anything given this: web browsing, e-mail, everything is broken. I've checked everything I can think of, such as: o Diabling the firewall (bastille-firewall) o Disabling every other service that isn't absolutely critical o "arp -a -n" shows what I would expect o "route" shows what I would expect o I've tried pump as well as dhcpcd. I've also tried static IP addresses. No joy. Other tidbits: o Everything works fine in Windoze o Everything works fine in Linux IF I set the RG-1000 in bridge/infrastructure mode and use a PPPoE client from the laptop. (I do NOT want to do this; I need to share the Internet connection in real-time.) I have no idea what to do next. If I spend any more time on this problem my girfriend is going to dump me. Please help. David Boettger From dgibson@samba.org Thu Oct 4 17:49:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id 25041423A; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 17:49:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 10:46:32 +1000 From: David Gibson To: "'wireless@lists.samba.org'" Subject: Re: orinoco driver and arm Message-ID: <20011005104632.C21077@zax> Mail-Followup-To: "'wireless@lists.samba.org'" References: <6B2492D663ECD4119EB70008C7E6F673010C46A4@softwareag.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6B2492D663ECD4119EB70008C7E6F673010C46A4@softwareag.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 01:46:23PM +0200, Brauel, Bjoern wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I wanted to raise the issue with the orinoco driver on arm processors > (probably again, as Davids readme already says something about it). > It is true that the driver in its current form cannot work on arm machines > (I have an IPaq) due to whe misalignment of the dldwd_frame_hdr > structure. In fact it is the hermes_frame_desc_t struct that causes the > problem. The hermes_frame_desc_t is normally exactly 14 bytes in size, > but the gcc on arm will always align it to 16 bytes. I actually don't > believe this is a bug ! The arm processors always want to have 4-byte > aligned adresses, so the 14 bytes struct indeed has to be aligned. > -mstructure-size-boundary=8 doesn't fix that problem ! Hmm.. well at least one person reported that somehow-or-other it worked using -mstructure-size-boundary=8. > What I'd like to know is how to proceed from here. I changed the orinoco.c > in order to use a plain dldwd_frame_hdr struct not referencing > any other structs. Some other changes were needed to make this working but > now I can use the orinoco driver on my ipaq and it seems > to work just fine. But I am really not sure if having a plain struct is a > good idea, cause it will "duplicate" the structs from other headers > (hermes_drame_desc_t and ethhdr in particular) cause when they change , the > orinoco code is broken. But will eg. ethhdr ever change ? > So what do you guys think about how to proceed. Should the handhelds cvs > adopt the plain struct, or will there be a solution within orinoco ? In the longer term I plan to change to driver not to rely so much on packed structures for parsing everything, but instead to use explicit offsets wherever its sensible. That's a pretty big change though, so it's unlikely to happen soon. Can you send me your patch to the driver and I'll see whether all or part of it can sensibly be merged. -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From wepiwe@fokus.gmd.de Fri Oct 5 04:20:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (mailhub.fokus.gmd.de [193.174.154.14]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1543B4B5A for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 04:20:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adelphi.fokus.gmd.de (adelphi [193.175.135.124]) by mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA22179 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 13:23:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by adelphi.fokus.gmd.de (8.11.6/8.8.7) id f95BT5r03383 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 13:29:05 +0200 Message-Id: <200110051129.f95BT5r03383@adelphi.fokus.gmd.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Giscard Wepiwe To: "'wireless@lists.samba.org'" Subject: raw socket on orinoco driver Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 13:29:05 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] References: <6B2492D663ECD4119EB70008C7E6F673010C46A4@softwareag.com> In-Reply-To: <6B2492D663ECD4119EB70008C7E6F673010C46A4@softwareag.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi everybody, i have a problem while sending raw packet with raw socket under linux with a wlan card ( from Lucent Technology). ------------------------------------- [root@station2 wlan]# lsmod Module Size Used by orinoco_cs 4768 1 orinoco 28208 0 [orinoco_cs] hermes 3584 0 [orinoco_cs orinoco] ds 6928 2 [orinoco_cs] i82365 12896 2 pcmcia_core 40128 0 [orinoco_cs ds i82365] ... ------------------------------------------ Here the code of the test application: int main(int argc, char **argv) { int sockfd; struct sockaddr_ll mysocket; unsigned char dest_mac_addr[6] = {0x00, 0x02, 0x2d, 0x1d, 0x13, 0xfa}; unsigned char src_mac_addr[6] = {0x00, 0x02, 0x2d, 0x20, 0x64, 0xcb}; unsigned char buffer[1024], puffer[1024]; int i, recv_ret; if ((sockfd = socket(AF_PACKET, SOCK_RAW, htons(ETH_P_ALL))) < 0 ) { perror("socket"); exit(-1); } mysocket.sll_family = AF_PACKET; mysocket.sll_protocol = ETH_P_ALL; mysocket.sll_ifindex = 3; mysocket.sll_hatype = 1; mysocket.sll_halen = 8; while ((recv_ret = recvfrom(sockfd, puffer, 1024, 0, 0,0)) > 0) { /* Print out the packet */ for ( i = 0; i < recv_ret; i++) { fprintf(stdout, "%02x%s", puffer[i], i == recv_ret - 1 ? "\n":" "); } /* Set the MAC address of the destination */ for ( i=0; i<6; i++) mysocket.sll_addr[i] = dest_mac_addr[i]; mysocket.sll_addr[6] = 0x00; mysocket.sll_addr[7] = 0x00; /* Set the destination and source mac_addresses */ for ( i = 0; i < 6; i++) { buffer[i] = dest_mac_addr[i]; } for (i = 6; i < 12; i++) { buffer[i] = src_mac_addr[i-6]; } //buffer[12] = 0x08; //buffer[13] = 0x00; memcpy(buffer+12, puffer+12, recv_ret); if (sendto(sockfd, buffer, recv_ret, 0x00, (struct sockaddr *)&mysocket, sizeof(mysocket)) < 0 ) { perror("sendto"); exit(-1); } fprintf(stdout, "To send\n"); for ( i = 0; i < recv_ret; i++) { fprintf(stdout, "%02x%s", buffer[i], i == recv_ret + 13 ? "\n":" "); } fprintf(stdout, "I've sent\n"); } return 0; } ----iwconfig output [root@station2 wlan]# iwconfig lo no wireless extensions. eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"FOKUS" Nickname:"station2" Mode:Ad-Hoc Frequency:2.472GHz Cell: 00:60:1D:F1:F1:AD Bit Rate=11Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity:1/3 Retry limit:4 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Encryption key:6F6E-6169-72 Power Management:off Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 --- Output ifconfig [root@station2 wlan]# ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:02:B3:1F:B1:84 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:02:2D:20:64:CB inet addr:195.37.78.208 Bcast:195.37.78.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:394 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:175 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:6 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:6 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 -- Program output [root@station2 wlan]# ./test 00 02 2d 20 64 cb 00 e0 2b 40 d4 00 08 00 45 10 00 34 37 3f 40 00 3e 06 aa 53 c1 af 87 7c c3 25 4e d0 b0 da 00 16 37 f6 48 4a 39 ec f0 ec 80 10 f8 e0 83 b3 00 00 01 01 08 0a 02 8a b2 1f 00 01 8e 52 sendto: No such device or address By sending i still have this message. Why ? Thanks already for the help. -- MfG. Giscard Wépiwé \\///// (.) (.) +------------------------+--------+---------oOO---(_)---OOo-------+ | Giscard Wépiwé | office: +49 30 34637283 | | GMD-FOKUS | mobil: +49 179 4154809 | | Research Institute | Kaiserin-Augusta-Allee 31 /10589 Berlin| | for Open Communication +-----+----------------------------------+ | Systems | e-mail: wepiwe@fokus.gmd.de | +------------------------+--------------+-----.oooO-Oooo.---------+ | http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~wepicard | ( ) ( ) +---------------------------------------+ \ ( ) / \_) (_/ From kleptog@svana.org Sat Oct 6 02:44:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1FD9413E for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 02:44:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15po7g-0008UY-00; Sat, 06 Oct 2001 19:51:56 +1000 Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 19:51:56 +1000 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: PCI IDs for wireless cards Message-ID: <20011006195156.D32504@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: According to man 5 pcmcia, each pcmcia card has a pair of PCI ids, like normal pci cards. Anyone know how to find these numbers? Or am I missing something. -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Magnetism, electricity and motion are like a three-for-two special offer: > if you have two of them, the third one comes free. From kleptog@svana.org Sat Oct 6 07:57:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E694279 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 07:57:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15pt0c-0000Ei-00; Sun, 07 Oct 2001 01:04:58 +1000 Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 01:04:58 +1000 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Using a Netgear MA301 Message-ID: <20011007010458.F32504@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I've seen variuos references to people using this PCI host adapter to use a wireless card in a desktop system. However, no matter what drivers I load, none of them seem to work. Looking at the code that comes with it (linux-wlan-ng) it would appear that the driver is the same, it's just a matter of getting it to detect it. The driver is expecting to find it attached to a CardBus bridge, but the MA301 doesn't appear to be a bridge in that way. So, does anyone else have one of these working? The actual wireless card itself (MA401) works perfectly with the standard orinoco driver in a laptop. Thanks in advance, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Magnetism, electricity and motion are like a three-for-two special offer: > if you have two of them, the third one comes free. From dgibson@samba.org Sat Oct 6 09:43:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id 71A3E4634; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 09:43:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 02:44:58 +1000 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: PCI IDs for wireless cards Message-ID: <20011007024458.Q21077@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <20011006195156.D32504@svana.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011006195156.D32504@svana.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 07:51:56PM +1000, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > According to man 5 pcmcia, each pcmcia card has a pair of PCI ids, like > normal pci cards. > > Anyone know how to find these numbers? cardctl ident -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From dgibson@samba.org Sat Oct 6 09:43:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id 857CF4564; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 09:43:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 02:45:52 +1000 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Using a Netgear MA301 Message-ID: <20011007024552.R21077@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <20011007010458.F32504@svana.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011007010458.F32504@svana.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, Oct 07, 2001 at 01:04:58AM +1000, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > Hi, > > I've seen variuos references to people using this PCI host adapter to use a > wireless card in a desktop system. However, no matter what drivers I load, > none of them seem to work. > > Looking at the code that comes with it (linux-wlan-ng) it would appear that > the driver is the same, it's just a matter of getting it to detect it. The > driver is expecting to find it attached to a CardBus bridge, but the MA301 > doesn't appear to be a bridge in that way. > > So, does anyone else have one of these working? > > The actual wireless card itself (MA401) works perfectly with the standard > orinoco driver in a laptop. Well, I should be getting an MA401 and MA301 in the next couple of days, so I will soon find out what the situation is. -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From kleptog@svana.org Sat Oct 6 17:37:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C69FA4103 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 17:37:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15q242-0001vM-00; Sun, 07 Oct 2001 10:45:06 +1000 Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 10:45:06 +1000 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: PCI IDs for wireless cards Message-ID: <20011007104506.A7378@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout References: <20011006195156.D32504@svana.org> <20011007024458.Q21077@zax> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011007024458.Q21077@zax>; from david@gibson.dropbear.id.au on Sun, Oct 07, 2001 at 02:44:58AM +1000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, Oct 07, 2001 at 02:44:58AM +1000, David Gibson wrote: > On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 07:51:56PM +1000, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > > According to man 5 pcmcia, each pcmcia card has a pair of PCI ids, like > > normal pci cards. > > > > Anyone know how to find these numbers? > > cardctl ident Socket 1: product info: "NETGEAR MA401 Wireless PC", "Card", "Version 01.00", "" manfid: 0x0156, 0x0002 function: 6 (network) manfid == PCI ids? OK, I was just misunderstanding the man page then. I thought it implied that they had an ID you could look up in pci.ids. Whoops, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Magnetism, electricity and motion are like a three-for-two special offer: > if you have two of them, the third one comes free. From wattsg@laboratory.innaloo.net Sat Oct 6 19:10:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from laboratory.innaloo.net (hertha.innaloo.net [203.15.92.14]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7782D4398 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 19:10:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (wattsg@localhost) by laboratory.innaloo.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19615 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2001 10:13:07 +0800 Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 10:13:07 +0800 (WST) From: Geoff Watts To: wireless@samba.org Subject: long distance in Perth Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: People, Yesterday we managed a 26.4km link from Doubleview to Lesmurdie in Perth. Best S/N we observed was -80dbm and the whole thing was done handheld. Elevation at Lesmurdie was 198m, and at Doubleview around 140. Next weekend we should have an antenna mounted somewhat more permanantly, and we're looking at putting an access point up there if performance is as good as things are looking. We'll let you know how we go, and this could potentially be really good news for linking the smallish (and spread out) Perth networks together. Vital Stats: Doubleview 140m elevation 10dbi omni pacsat antenna apple airport, 30dbm output model with pigtail straight into antenna Pole mounted from chimney mount (observe: www.innaloo.net/~wattsg) Lesmurdie 198m elevation 24dbi conifer antenna FCC 30dbm cabletron roamabout card, very short (3m?) RG8 Hand-held antenna Total Distance: 26.4km Best S/N: -80dbm (good for 5.5mbps easily) I'm also pleased that the lobes coming out of that omni seem to be high enough that we're getting a decent signal. Thanks to Matt Lambie and Steve Bennett for assistance. cheers, geoff From dgibson@samba.org Sat Oct 6 19:22:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id CE3DC4682; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 19:22:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 12:19:42 +1000 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: PCI IDs for wireless cards Message-ID: <20011007121942.S21077@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <20011006195156.D32504@svana.org> <20011007024458.Q21077@zax> <20011007104506.A7378@svana.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011007104506.A7378@svana.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, Oct 07, 2001 at 10:45:06AM +1000, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > On Sun, Oct 07, 2001 at 02:44:58AM +1000, David Gibson wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 07:51:56PM +1000, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > > > According to man 5 pcmcia, each pcmcia card has a pair of PCI ids, like > > > normal pci cards. > > > > > > Anyone know how to find these numbers? > > > > cardctl ident > > Socket 1: > product info: "NETGEAR MA401 Wireless PC", "Card", "Version 01.00", "" > manfid: 0x0156, 0x0002 > function: 6 (network) > > manfid == PCI ids? > > OK, I was just misunderstanding the man page then. I thought it implied that > they had an ID you could look up in pci.ids. Cardbus cards might, since I understand that Cardbus is pretty much hotplug PCI. Older PCMCIA on the other hand is not. -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From janh@brightwatergroup.com Sat Oct 6 22:51:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from mail.brightwatergroup.net (unknown [203.25.121.40]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F13FD4264 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 22:51:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: RE: long distance in Perth Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 13:54:21 +0800 Message-ID: <778DC899FE382B418082003D5EAFFE2E038B4F@mail.brightwatergroup.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C14EF4.82952F18" X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <778DC899FE382B418082003D5EAFFE2E038B4F@mail.brightwatergroup.net> Thread-Topic: long distance in Perth Thread-Index: AcFO1axF90NfZ1CWRRqPZ1jJCqmVnAAHsVs2 content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4417.0 From: "Jan Hurst" To: "Geoff Watts" , Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: 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[203.2.75.173]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C4944B8 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 23:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snakeeyes (perax13-194.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.136.194]) by mail011.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f976HeW21292; Sun, 7 Oct 2001 16:17:43 +1000 Message-ID: <08d001c14ef7$e3774e20$0b00a8c0@snakeeyes> From: "Matthew Lambie" To: "Jan Hurst" Cc: References: <778DC899FE382B418082003D5EAFFE2E038B4F@mail.brightwatergroup.net> Subject: Re: long distance in Perth Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 14:18:13 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Talking with a mate yesterday after our testing and it looks like he may have an even better location for a link. He is right on the hill face so he could effectivley be hit from anywhere in Perth with LOS to the hills. This would mean another AP for innaloo.net (will have to register hills.com.au as well ;) But let's just get my link up first. Matt Lambie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Hurst" To: "Geoff Watts" ; Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 1:54 PM Subject: RE: long distance in Perth > If anyone is in or near the Applecross area and wants to do something > similar please drop me a line. > > -jan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Geoff Watts > Sent: Sun 7/10/2001 10:13 AM > To: wireless@samba.org > Cc: > Subject: long distance in Perth > > > > People, > > Yesterday we managed a 26.4km link from Doubleview to Lesmurdie > in > Perth. Best S/N we observed was -80dbm and the whole thing was > done > handheld. Elevation at Lesmurdie was 198m, and at Doubleview > around 140. > > Next weekend we should have an antenna mounted somewhat more > permanantly, > and we're looking at putting an access point up there if > performance is as > good as things are looking. > > We'll let you know how we go, and this could potentially be > really good > news for linking the smallish (and spread out) Perth networks > together. > > Vital Stats: > > Doubleview > 140m elevation > 10dbi omni pacsat antenna > apple airport, 30dbm output model with pigtail straight into > antenna > Pole mounted from chimney mount (observe: > www.innaloo.net/~wattsg) > > Lesmurdie > 198m elevation > 24dbi conifer antenna > FCC 30dbm cabletron roamabout card, very short (3m?) RG8 > Hand-held antenna > > Total Distance: 26.4km > Best S/N: -80dbm (good for 5.5mbps easily) > > I'm also pleased that the lobes coming out of that omni seem to > be high > enough that we're getting a decent signal. > > Thanks to Matt Lambie and Steve Bennett for assistance. > > cheers, > geoff > > > > > From kleptog@svana.org Sun Oct 7 06:46:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C194657 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2001 06:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15qEMz-0002LL-00; Sun, 07 Oct 2001 23:53:29 +1000 Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 23:53:29 +1000 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Using a Netgear MA301 Message-ID: <20011007235329.D8371@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout References: <20011007010458.F32504@svana.org> <20011007024552.R21077@zax> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011007024552.R21077@zax>; from david@gibson.dropbear.id.au on Sun, Oct 07, 2001 at 02:45:52AM +1000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, Oct 07, 2001 at 02:45:52AM +1000, David Gibson wrote: > On Sun, Oct 07, 2001 at 01:04:58AM +1000, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've seen variuos references to people using this PCI host adapter to use a > > wireless card in a desktop system. However, no matter what drivers I load, > > none of them seem to work. > > > Well, I should be getting an MA401 and MA301 in the next couple of > days, so I will soon find out what the situation is. Well, according to a question on a freebsd list, it's got a PLX 9052 like many of these wireless bridges. They just needed to add the PCI ID pairs to their driver. It's if_wi.c if it matters. Unfortunatly, I can't find this chip mentioned anywhere in the linux kernel source. Seems to be some kind of PCI controller. Am I correct in thinking that the driver is in orinoco.c and orinoco_cs.c is merely a wrapper for pcmcia cards? In that case, do you just need a skeleton orinoco_pci.c to make it work. Or do we need a simple bridge driver for it? I can't beleive this hasn't been done before... -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Magnetism, electricity and motion are like a three-for-two special offer: > if you have two of them, the third one comes free. From kleptog@svana.org Sun Oct 7 07:30:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2DD44216 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2001 07:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15qF4Q-0002Np-00; Mon, 08 Oct 2001 00:38:22 +1000 Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 00:38:22 +1000 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Using a Netgear MA301 Message-ID: <20011008003822.A9139@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout References: <20011007010458.F32504@svana.org> <20011007024552.R21077@zax> <20011007235329.D8371@svana.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011007235329.D8371@svana.org>; from kleptog@svana.org on Sun, Oct 07, 2001 at 11:53:29PM +1000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, Oct 07, 2001 at 11:53:29PM +1000, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > Well, according to a question on a freebsd list, it's got a PLX 9052 like > many of these wireless bridges. They just needed to add the PCI ID pairs to > their driver. It's if_wi.c if it matters. Replying to myself. Someone seems to know how these things work (http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/dev/linux-wlan/2001-q1/0026.html) and it's just some simple I/O remapping as far as I can tell. I think it's time to go buy that new linux device drivers book. I hope it covers the pcmcia and pci subsystems because it's changed alot since last time I looked at it... Sleep time... -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Magnetism, electricity and motion are like a three-for-two special offer: > if you have two of them, the third one comes free. From dgibson@samba.org Sun Oct 7 17:11:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id 95D8E4543; Sun, 7 Oct 2001 17:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 09:57:10 +1000 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Using a Netgear MA301 Message-ID: <20011008095710.U21077@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <20011007010458.F32504@svana.org> <20011007024552.R21077@zax> <20011007235329.D8371@svana.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011007235329.D8371@svana.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, Oct 07, 2001 at 11:53:29PM +1000, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > On Sun, Oct 07, 2001 at 02:45:52AM +1000, David Gibson wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 07, 2001 at 01:04:58AM +1000, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I've seen variuos references to people using this PCI host adapter to use a > > > wireless card in a desktop system. However, no matter what drivers I load, > > > none of them seem to work. > > > > > Well, I should be getting an MA401 and MA301 in the next couple of > > days, so I will soon find out what the situation is. > > Well, according to a question on a freebsd list, it's got a PLX 9052 like > many of these wireless bridges. They just needed to add the PCI ID pairs to > their driver. It's if_wi.c if it matters. Oh, ok, it's one of those. These appear to be a kind of whacky transparent PCI <-> PCMCIA bridge. Many of the adaptors are real PCMCIA controllers which the PCMCIA subsystem can talk to, but the PLX makes the PCMCIA card appear to be a PCI device. > Unfortunatly, I can't find this chip mentioned anywhere in the linux kernel > source. Seems to be some kind of PCI controller. > > Am I correct in thinking that the driver is in orinoco.c and orinoco_cs.c is > merely a wrapper for pcmcia cards? In that case, do you just need a skeleton > orinoco_pci.c to make it work. Or do we need a simple bridge driver for it? That's right. In fact orinoco_plx.c already exists, contributed by Daniel Barlow. It's not in the kernel (yet), but it's in the 0.08 release of the driver on http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson/dldwd. > I can't beleive this hasn't been done before... -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From kleptog@svana.org Sun Oct 7 18:00:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D0A64224 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2001 18:00:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15qOu3-0002ja-00; Mon, 08 Oct 2001 11:08:19 +1000 Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 11:08:19 +1000 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Using a Netgear MA301 Message-ID: <20011008110819.A10476@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout References: <20011007010458.F32504@svana.org> <20011007024552.R21077@zax> <20011007235329.D8371@svana.org> <20011008095710.U21077@zax> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011008095710.U21077@zax>; from david@gibson.dropbear.id.au on Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 09:57:10AM +1000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 09:57:10AM +1000, David Gibson wrote: > > Am I correct in thinking that the driver is in orinoco.c and orinoco_cs.c is > > merely a wrapper for pcmcia cards? In that case, do you just need a skeleton > > orinoco_pci.c to make it work. Or do we need a simple bridge driver for it? > > That's right. In fact orinoco_plx.c already exists, contributed by > Daniel Barlow. It's not in the kernel (yet), but it's in the 0.08 > release of the driver on http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson/dldwd. OK, so I downloaded the latest package but no orinoco_plx. From orinoco-0.08.tar.gz: $ ls Makefile dummy_cs.c hermes.h orinoco_cs.c README.orinoco hermes.c orinoco.c userhermes.c airport.c hermes.conf orinoco.h $ make orinoco_plx.o make: *** No rule to make target `orinoco_plx.o'. Stop. It is in the testing directory though, so I'll try that out tonight. Thanks, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Magnetism, electricity and motion are like a three-for-two special offer: > if you have two of them, the third one comes free. From dgibson@samba.org Sun Oct 7 18:31:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id 8D2F741AC; Sun, 7 Oct 2001 18:31:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 11:27:32 +1000 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Using a Netgear MA301 Message-ID: <20011008112732.W21077@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <20011007010458.F32504@svana.org> <20011007024552.R21077@zax> <20011007235329.D8371@svana.org> <20011008095710.U21077@zax> <20011008110819.A10476@svana.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011008110819.A10476@svana.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 11:08:19AM +1000, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 09:57:10AM +1000, David Gibson wrote: > > > Am I correct in thinking that the driver is in orinoco.c and orinoco_cs.c is > > > merely a wrapper for pcmcia cards? In that case, do you just need a skeleton > > > orinoco_pci.c to make it work. Or do we need a simple bridge driver for it? > > > > That's right. In fact orinoco_plx.c already exists, contributed by > > Daniel Barlow. It's not in the kernel (yet), but it's in the 0.08 > > release of the driver on http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson/dldwd. > > OK, so I downloaded the latest package but no orinoco_plx. > > >From orinoco-0.08.tar.gz: > > $ ls > Makefile dummy_cs.c hermes.h orinoco_cs.c > README.orinoco hermes.c orinoco.c userhermes.c > airport.c hermes.conf orinoco.h > $ make orinoco_plx.o > make: *** No rule to make target `orinoco_plx.o'. Stop. > > It is in the testing directory though, so I'll try that out tonight. Grrr... forgot to include it in the dist. Again. Oh well, the testing version should be ok. -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Mon Oct 8 19:33:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B306841AB for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2001 19:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id TAA26971; Mon, 8 Oct 2001 19:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id TAA26524; Mon, 8 Oct 2001 19:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15qmjj-0001oL-00; Mon, 08 Oct 2001 19:35:15 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 19:35:15 -0700 To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list , aironet@csl.cse.ucsc.edu Subject: Wireless Tools update Message-ID: <20011008193515.A6955@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I've just updated my Wireless Tools to version 22-pre4. I'm planning to release it in the not too distant future, so I welcome a bit of testing... Get it at : http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Tools.html#latest Thanks in advance... Jean From Nordwall@pnl.gov Wed Oct 10 13:29:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from galaxy.pnl.gov (galaxy.pnl.gov [130.20.64.136]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244A24225 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 13:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vscan2.pnl.gov ([130.20.64.141]) by pnl.gov (PMDF V5.2-33 #42505) with SMTP id <01K9C63A5I6C8X0CG3@pnl.gov> for wireless@lists.samba.org; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 13:31:45 PDT Received: from 130.20.128.21 by vscan2.pnl.gov (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT) ; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 13:31:45 -0700 Received: by PNLMSE1.pnl.gov with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <41JG1AD4>; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 13:31:45 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 13:31:42 -0700 From: "Nordwall, Douglas J" Subject: perpetual problem..I can't fix it... To: "'wireless@lists.samba.org'" Message-id: <3A2AF12EC5C8AE45B4EB90379D1235B90128F187@pnlmse04.pnl.gov> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: ok, you'll forgive my exasperation but I've been working on this problem on and off for months. alright,. this does not appear to matter if it's redhat 7.1, mandrake 8.0 or mandrake 8.1. It does not appear to matter whether I am using the wvlan_cs driver or the orinoco_cs driver. My local access point is a Lucent AP1000. When I try to connect, I cannot dhcp. I can iwconfig in all the parameters. EVerything appears to work. iwconfig even returns the mac of the ap I am talking to. I have a bit rate of above 2 (11 to be exact). I have an encryption key showing. I have a signal strength in the 30's. I appear to be well and truly connected. But I can't dhcp. I can't figure it out. the odd thing is that I had this problem wth redhat 7.1 and finally I replaced all the pcmcia stuff. it appears to have worked. I'm not sure why. their scripts are going through the same steps. Alright, so I'll pass off mandrake 8.0 on similarities to redhat 7.1. But mandrake 8 should jsut work. Literally, their scripts read the value out of tha file and iwconfig all the parameters in. Then it starts a dhcp client. But it times out. I'm using dhcpcd for the client. Does anyone have any ideas what this is? This is with encryption. It appears to work fine without encryption (at home, on a linksys access point, not the dsl router kind). --Doug Nordwall From jim@hosemore.net Thu Oct 11 12:28:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from rufus.hosemore.net (rufus.hosemore.net [216.254.47.166]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A1B2F4E5E for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 12:28:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8231 invoked by uid 0); 11 Oct 2001 19:30:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hosemore.net) (12.18.94.252) by rufus.hosemore.net with SMTP; 11 Oct 2001 19:30:59 -0000 Message-ID: <3BC5F357.8010400@hosemore.net> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:30:31 -0500 From: "James L. Reese" Reply-To: jim@hosemore.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Orinoco Gold / Dell 7000 Driver Problem - Need Help Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello all. I've got a Dell Inspiron 7000 that I'm trying to make work with an Orinoco Gold PCMCIA card. I need help. This is a redhat 7.1 system, but I'm running kernel 2.4.9 compiled from the kernel.org source tree. It is patched with the Win4Lin kernel patch. I've tried the hermes/orinoco_cs driver that came with the kernel source as well as the Lucent wavelan2_cs and cannot get the card to initialize. I'd prefer to use the orinoco_cs driver, so I've removed all the stuff related to the wavelan2_cs and here's what I get when plugging the card: cardmgr[583]: socket 1: Lucent Technologies Wavelan/IEEE cardmgr[583]: executing: 'modprobe hermes' cardmgr[583]: executing: 'modprobe orinoco_cs' kernel: eth1: Error -110 reading firmware info. Wildly guessing capabilities... kernel: hermes @ 0x100: CMD register busy in hermes_issue_command(). kernel: eth1: failed to read MAC address! kernel: orinoco_cs: register_netdev() failed cardmgr[583]: get dev info on socket 1 failed: Resource temporarily unavailable If I run 'cardctl ident' it correctly identifies the card when it is inserted. I'm using the kernel pcmcia and I have not tried disabling that and loading pcmcia card services seperately from the kernel. Any ideas? I'm stumped. From janh@brightwatergroup.com Thu Oct 11 18:37:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.brightwatergroup.net (unknown [203.25.121.40]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB2447A4 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 18:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Compaq WL210 on Redhat 7.1 Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 09:39:46 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <778DC899FE382B418082003D5EAFFE2E038B57@mail.brightwatergroup.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4417.0 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Compaq WL210 on Redhat 7.1 Thread-Index: AcFSjAtTC6ucvep5Sda8mt2jajvpewAMREJw From: "Jan Hurst" To: Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all, I'd just like to relay my experiences so far with a Compaq WL210 card and a Redhat 7.1 machine(s). I am relatively new to running this stuff under linux, so bear with me, hopefully ppl can give me any pointers or suggestions for things I've missed. I've run these cards quite happily under various Windows flavours with great success (apart from Windows XP not having drivers for a Compaq USB adapter I have.) The card worked out of the box with the 2.4.2-2 kernel that comes with RH7.1. After a lot of hands on learning, its using the wvlan_cs driver. I actually got the card working at this point. One of the first things I do on a RH7.1 machine is get a newer kernel and compile in a whole bunch of goodies (iptables support, pppoe etc etc). I grabbed 2.4.10, recompiled, added what I thought were the right drivers. Rebooted and boom, no wireless. I spent a fair bit of time on that machine and on my desktop machine trying to figure out what went wrong. After enough digging through web sites etc, I realized that just like a few sites state, Redhat 7.1's PCMCIA scripts suck some serious ass. So, I grabbed pcmcia-cs 3.(i forget, current release though).x. After some more reading I've got a new kernel going, using the PCMCIA core and drivers from the kernel and the pcmcia-cs package scripts etc. Things improved. The cards become detected, drivers modprobe etc. (Oh, I have to change the Intersil line in /etc/pcmcia/config to modprobe orinoco_cs rather than wvlan_cs.) Things look ok, I can iwconfig the device, bring it up, do the usual linuxy stuff to it. Unfortuantely, It plain won't transmit. I didn't spend a lot of time examining specific card related settings, thats my next step. Failing that, I'm considering switching back to the wvlan_cs driver (which appeared to work before). Has anyone had any experiences with the Compaq cards, any tips or suggestions are welcome. -jan From s3022668@bohm.anu.edu.au Mon Oct 15 06:56:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mta04.mail.mel.aone.net.au (mta04.mail.au.uu.net [203.2.192.84]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D2351A1 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 06:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Billy-Bob.localnet ([210.84.37.112]) by mta04.mail.mel.aone.net.au with ESMTP id <20011015135813.REAH6258.mta04.mail.mel.aone.net.au@Billy-Bob.localnet> for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 23:58:13 +1000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by Billy-Bob.localnet (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id AAA00721 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 00:14:59 +1000 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 00:14:59 +1000 From: Mark Harrison To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Wirless in Lyneham? Message-ID: <20011016001459.C595@Billy-Bob> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.0.0 Lines: 12 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I've been browsing through www.air.net.au and the archives of this list but am still at a bit of a loss. Could someone point me in the direction of some info on connecting to Canberra's network? I've had a look at the descriptions harware being used etc. but is anyone within range of me and how do I contact you? - and can you just add extra randomly placed points on the network? As I say, I am at a bit of a loss but would really like to know more - any info/help appreciated. Mark. From paulf@glowcentres.com Mon Oct 15 12:55:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mta03.mail.mel.aone.net.au (mta03.mail.au.uu.net [203.2.192.83]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B209A4497 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:55:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bigpond ([63.12.0.235]) by mta03.mail.mel.aone.net.au with SMTP id <20011015195735.ZZBG15297.mta03.mail.mel.aone.net.au@bigpond>; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 05:57:35 +1000 Message-ID: <00e201c155b3$6d5860e0$cee0223f@objective> From: "Paul Ferris" To: Subject: [wirelesslan] Wireless in Sydney ? - Re: Wirless in Lyneham? Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 05:56:05 +1000 Organization: GLOW Centres Limited MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DF_01C15607.3E750220" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00DF_01C15607.3E750220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi I've looked through www.air.net.au also and Sydney seems very silent - = unless I'm missing a link to the group. Is there anyone in Sydney operating? Best regards Paul >=20 > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 00:14:59 +1000 > From: Mark Harrison > To: wireless@lists.samba.org > Subject: Wirless in Lyneham? >=20 > Hi, > I've been browsing through www.air.net.au and the archives of this = list but > am still at a bit of a loss. Could someone point me in the direction = of > some info on connecting to Canberra's network? I've had a look at the > descriptions harware being used etc. but is anyone within range of me = and > how do I contact you? - and can you just add extra randomly placed = points > on the network? >=20 > As I say, I am at a bit of a loss but would really like to know more - = any > info/help appreciated. >=20 > Mark. >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00DF_01C15607.3E750220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi
 
I've looked through www.air.net.au also and Sydney seems very silent - unless I'm = missing a link=20 to the group.
 
Is there anyone in Sydney = operating?
 
Best regards
 
Paul
 
>
>=20 Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 00:14:59 +1000
> From: = Mark=20 Harrison <s3022668@bohm.anu.edu.au>
> To: wireless@lists.samba.org
> Subject: Wirless in Lyneham?
>
> Hi,
> = I've been=20 browsing through www.air.net.au and the archives of this list = but
> am=20 still at a bit of a loss. Could someone point me in the direction = of
>=20 some info on connecting to Canberra's network? I've had a look at = the
>=20 descriptions harware being used etc. but is anyone within range of me=20 and
> how do I contact you? - and can you just add extra randomly = placed=20 points
> on the network?
>
> As I say, I am at a bit = of a=20 loss but would really like to know more - any
> info/help=20 appreciated.
>
> Mark.
>
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_00DF_01C15607.3E750220-- From jjohnson@psg.com Mon Oct 15 17:07:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from psg.com (psg.com [147.28.0.62]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFBFF450E for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 15tHnc-000CC3-00; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:09:36 -0700 Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:09:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremiah Johnson To: Paul Ferris Cc: Subject: Re: [wirelesslan] Wireless in Sydney ? - Re: Wirless in Lyneham? In-Reply-To: <00e201c155b3$6d5860e0$cee0223f@objective> Message-ID: <20011015170851.E46778-100000@psg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: i'm in sydney, and not operating, but lurking very intently. :) -Jeremiah Johnson psg.com/~jjohnson On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Paul Ferris wrote: >Hi > >I've looked through www.air.net.au also and Sydney seems very silent - unless I'm missing a link to the group. > >Is there anyone in Sydney operating? > >Best regards > >Paul > >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 00:14:59 +1000 >> From: Mark Harrison >> To: wireless@lists.samba.org >> Subject: Wirless in Lyneham? >> >> Hi, >> I've been browsing through www.air.net.au and the archives of this list but >> am still at a bit of a loss. Could someone point me in the direction of >> some info on connecting to Canberra's network? I've had a look at the >> descriptions harware being used etc. but is anyone within range of me and >> how do I contact you? - and can you just add extra randomly placed points >> on the network? >> >> As I say, I am at a bit of a loss but would really like to know more - any >> info/help appreciated. >> >> Mark. >> > > > > From jon@unicomsystems.com Mon Oct 15 18:46:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from new-smtp1.ihug.com.au (new-smtp1.ihug.com.au [203.109.250.27]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC58462D for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 18:46:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netcache-c6100.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au (kumera.ihug.com.au [203.109.250.78]) by new-smtp1.ihug.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with SMTP id LAA24464 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:48:05 +1000 From: jon@unicomsystems.com Message-Id: <200110160148.LAA24464@new-smtp1.ihug.com.au> X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp1.ihug.com.au: Host kumera.ihug.com.au [203.109.250.78] claimed to be netcache-c6100.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [wirelesslan] Wireless in Sydney ? - Re: Wirless in Lyneham? Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 01:48:05 GMT X-Mailer: Endymion MailMan Standard Edition v3.0.24 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I can say there is certainly interest in wireless networking in Sydney. There, to the best of my knowledge, is no real wireless networking projects occuring in Sydney at the moment. There only appears to be a few little wireless links between people and their mates' houses. I am still very much interested in starting up a wireless networking project in Sydney, at this stage, what is mostly being done is looking at the best devices to use as a medium for communication. We're usually talking about 802.11b devices here, but not always; we are looking at the design of other devices which would give greater scalability than 802.11b. If anyone has questions, I'd most certainly love to answer them to the best of my knowledge. Ideas are also very much welcomed, and will be heard. The web site should be up RSN, the co-lo box for it is sitting near my feet, so that should be hosted soon. There will also be a mailing list server in that setup. Jon Teh SWN - Sydney Wireless Network From andypoo@secret.com.au Mon Oct 15 20:56:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.secret.com.au (co3011342-a.rivrw1.nsw.optushome.com.au [203.164.90.10]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B844239 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 20:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (andypoo@localhost) by mail.secret.com.au (8.11.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id f9G6Duf27442; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:13:56 +1000 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:13:56 +1000 (EST) From: Andrew Macks To: jon@unicomsystems.com Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [wirelesslan] Wireless in Sydney ? - Re: Wirless in Lyneham? In-Reply-To: <200110160148.LAA24464@new-smtp1.ihug.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, 16 Oct 2001 jon@unicomsystems.com wrote: > I can say there is certainly interest in wireless networking in Sydney. There, > to the best of my knowledge, is no real wireless networking projects occuring in > Sydney at the moment. There only appears to be a few little wireless links > between people and their mates' houses. > > I am still very much interested in starting up a wireless networking project in > Sydney, at this stage, what is mostly being done is looking at the best devices > to use as a medium for communication. We're usually talking about 802.11b > devices here, but not always; we are looking at the design of other devices > which would give greater scalability than 802.11b. I've also been working on (muchly in the background) on SecretSydneyNet , but it's also still a fair way off. SecretSydneyNet is a community network (non-profit), with no short-term plans for internet access via the network. It's simply a wireless network which will link local people to each other as well as local businesses (in an orderly, "non-spam" type arrangement - ie. everything has its place). The way the network would work equipment wise would be that a group of houses (4+) would have to join up from the same block (preferably adjoining, or have permission from others inbetween to run UTP cable along their back fence). The equipment will start with the cheapest wireless LAN equipment we can get, and the network will be progressively upgraded from the center outward (ie. 2Mbit links would be moved to the outer areas when extra 11Mbit equipment was purchased for the inner areas). And later with higher speeds again, it's an evolution idea. I've done a lot of plans for SecretSydneyNet (how routing should work, how a spider grid should be setup, what areas of Sydney to route around, how to tunnel between major areas, etc), but a lot of that is not on the site just yet. I've also been playing around with a proximity database for ordering things from local businesses, but again, this is still very early on in development. Non-profit != free unfortunately. As people know, wireless equipment costs money. For a block to join the network, it would cost approximately $650, but this wouldn't be paid upfront. I'd be funding the equipment, which would be paid off gradually by people on the network. Although there would be money coming in monthly, this does not mean that I will be pocketing any of the money. Accounts will be set up for each individual block with information available to those people as to where their money is going. ie. upgrading wireless links, repairing cable, possibly purchasing a small UPS if in a power-troubled area, etc. It'd be nice to have the network running over a spider-like grid, as opposed to a single end to end wireless network of multiple links (for obvious reasons), and eventually land-based cables (via access to underground cable which has yet to be known as available to us) may be setup for tunnelling between central nodes for greater bandwidth without taking down the major network. Anyhow, that's my plan. Andrew. From jalovick@doof.org Mon Oct 15 21:01:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from gerald.doof.org (gateway.doof.org [203.29.177.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979594239 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 21:00:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gerald.doof.org (IDENT:jalovick@gerald.doof.org [203.0.179.1]) by gerald.doof.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12563; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 13:32:30 +0930 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 13:32:30 +0930 (CST) From: Jamie Lovick To: Jeremiah Johnson Cc: Paul Ferris , wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [wirelesslan] Wireless in Sydney ? - Re: Wirless in Lyneham? In-Reply-To: <20011015170851.E46778-100000@psg.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: So am I, but I am in the process of moving .. it will be somewhere close tro the city or Lower North Shore most likely. Regards Jamie On Mon, 15 Oct 2001, Jeremiah Johnson wrote: > i'm in sydney, and not operating, but lurking very intently. :) > > -Jeremiah Johnson > psg.com/~jjohnson > > On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Paul Ferris wrote: > > >Hi > > > >I've looked through www.air.net.au also and Sydney seems very silent - unless I'm missing a link to the group. > > > >Is there anyone in Sydney operating? > > > >Best regards > > > >Paul > > > >> > >> Message: 1 > >> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 00:14:59 +1000 > >> From: Mark Harrison > >> To: wireless@lists.samba.org > >> Subject: Wirless in Lyneham? > >> > >> Hi, > >> I've been browsing through www.air.net.au and the archives of this list but > >> am still at a bit of a loss. Could someone point me in the direction of > >> some info on connecting to Canberra's network? I've had a look at the > >> descriptions harware being used etc. but is anyone within range of me and > >> how do I contact you? - and can you just add extra randomly placed points > >> on the network? > >> > >> As I say, I am at a bit of a loss but would really like to know more - any > >> info/help appreciated. > >> > >> Mark. > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- Jamie Lovick <-> IT Consultant <-> +614 1479 1681 Hobby : Doof.org -> jalovick@doof.org Director: Drastic Solutions Pty Ltd -> jalovick@drasticsolutions.com.au From MF180802@Exchange.Australia.NCR.COM Mon Oct 15 21:04:28 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from sausyd003.Australia.NCR.COM (tan7.ncr.com [192.127.94.7]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044C34239 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 21:04:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sausyd003.australia.ncr.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4T63C4QJ>; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:05:34 +1000 Message-ID: From: "Fox, Michael" To: Jamie Lovick , Jeremiah Johnson Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: [wirelesslan] Wireless in Sydney ? - Re: Wirless in Lyneham ? Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:05:32 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > > So am I, but I am in the process of moving .. it will be > somewhere close > tro the city or Lower North Shore most likely. > > Regards > > Jamie Same, looking to purchase a house in the next 12-18months, so it will be one more move for me, and thats it. Somewhere permanent to setup the internal house lan all over again.. - Michael Fox From cisbjc@reason.levels.unisa.edu.au Tue Oct 16 17:15:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from reason.levels.unisa.edu.au (reason.levels.unisa.edu.au [130.220.33.11]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A7AF4703 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from reason.levels.unisa.edu.au (cis202068.levels.unisa.edu.au [130.220.37.202]) by reason.levels.unisa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02550 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 09:39:55 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <3BCCCC47.E68C7BD9@reason.levels.unisa.edu.au> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 09:39:43 +0930 From: Benjamin Close X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Wireless in Adelaide? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi All, I've found a little spare time and are interested in joining any wireless networks which might be existing in Adelaide, Australia. So what's around? air.net.au mentions that something might be going on but gives no details. If nothing exists, I'm very tempted to see what I can setup. Cheers, Benjamin -- 3D Research Associate +61 8 8302 3669 School of Computer and Information Science Room D1-07, Levels Campus University of South Australia Mawson Lakes Blvd. Benjamin.Close@cs.unisa.edu.au South Australia, 5095 From justin@hawkins.dropbear.id.au Tue Oct 16 17:45:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from tardis.everard.bogus (cu713.adelaide.adsl.on.net [150.101.236.205]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C925A4132 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:45:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhawkins@localhost) by tardis.everard.bogus (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9H0cH146752; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:08:21 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from justin@hawkins.dropbear.id.au) X-Authentication-Warning: tardis.everard.bogus: jhawkins owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:08:17 +0930 (CST) From: Justin Hawkins X-X-Sender: To: Benjamin Close Cc: Subject: Re: Wireless in Adelaide? In-Reply-To: <3BCCCC47.E68C7BD9@reason.levels.unisa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20011017095815.F46706-100000@tardis.everard.bogus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Benjamin Close wrote: > Hi All, > I've found a little spare time and are interested in joining any > wireless networks which might be existing in Adelaide, Australia. So > what's around? air.net.au mentions that something might be going on but > gives no details. If nothing exists, I'm very tempted to see what I can > setup. Hi Benjamin, As I see it there is a dearth of information on the www.adelaide.air.net.au site about actually linking people together. I'm not sure this list is the place for that either (in the context of south australia), but that's perhaps beside the point. What I was thinking is putting together a few CGI's to let people register themselves as being interested in joining up with others in a wireless fashion, against their suburb. The main criteria for me to do this are: 1. Time (Ahh, I don't need *that* much sleep do I?) 2. Need (Do people want this?) 3. Suburb list I had a bit of a search last night but wasn't able to track down a machine readable list of suburbs. I didn't look far though. What would be really nice is a CSV file, with suburbs, postcodes, and maybe latitude and longitude. Then we can get really funky in the graphical representation type stakes. Yes, I'm volunteering :-) If points 2 can be shown, and point 3 can be provided, then I will sacrifice some of point 1 :-) - Justin -- justin@hawkins.dropbear.id.au | "Don't sweat it -- http://hawkins.dropbear.id.au | it's only 1's and 0's" From Graham.Rawolle@unisa.edu.au Tue Oct 16 18:01:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from exstaff9.city.unisa.edu.au (exstaff9.city.unisa.edu.au [130.220.84.77]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A15AD40FB for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by exstaff9.city.unisa.edu.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4VDSL9V4>; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:33:33 +0930 Message-ID: From: Graham Rawolle To: 'Justin Hawkins' , Benjamin Close Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: Wireless in Adelaide? Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:33:31 +0930 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C156A7.89E88A10" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C156A7.89E88A10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'm interested. I live in Hope Valley. I registered my interest with www.adelaide.air.net.au at least 6 months ago, but never heard anything back. Graham Rawolle Information Technology University of South Australia Mawson Lakes -----Original Message----- From: Justin Hawkins [mailto:justin@hawkins.dropbear.id.au] Sent: Wednesday, 17 October 2001 10:08 AM To: Benjamin Close Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Wireless in Adelaide? On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Benjamin Close wrote: > Hi All, > I've found a little spare time and are interested in joining any > wireless networks which might be existing in Adelaide, Australia. So > what's around? air.net.au mentions that something might be going on but > gives no details. If nothing exists, I'm very tempted to see what I can > setup. Hi Benjamin, As I see it there is a dearth of information on the www.adelaide.air.net.au site about actually linking people together. I'm not sure this list is the place for that either (in the context of south australia), but that's perhaps beside the point. What I was thinking is putting together a few CGI's to let people register themselves as being interested in joining up with others in a wireless fashion, against their suburb. The main criteria for me to do this are: 1. Time (Ahh, I don't need *that* much sleep do I?) 2. Need (Do people want this?) 3. Suburb list I had a bit of a search last night but wasn't able to track down a machine readable list of suburbs. I didn't look far though. What would be really nice is a CSV file, with suburbs, postcodes, and maybe latitude and longitude. Then we can get really funky in the graphical representation type stakes. Yes, I'm volunteering :-) If points 2 can be shown, and point 3 can be provided, then I will sacrifice some of point 1 :-) - Justin -- justin@hawkins.dropbear.id.au | "Don't sweat it -- http://hawkins.dropbear.id.au | it's only 1's and 0's" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C156A7.89E88A10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Wireless in Adelaide?

I'm interested. I live in Hope Valley.
I registered my interest with = www.adelaide.air.net.au
at least 6 months ago, but never heard anything = back.

        Graham = Rawolle
        Information Technology
        University of South Australia
        Mawson = Lakes

-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Hawkins [mailto:justin@hawkins.drop= bear.id.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 17 October 2001 10:08 AM
To: Benjamin Close
Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org
Subject: Re: Wireless in Adelaide?


On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Benjamin Close wrote:

> Hi All,
>       I've found a = little spare time and are interested in joining any
> wireless networks which might be existing in = Adelaide, Australia. So
> what's around? air.net.au mentions that = something might be going on but
> gives no details. If nothing exists, I'm very = tempted to see what I can
> setup.

Hi Benjamin,

As I see it there is a dearth of information on = the
www.adelaide.air.net.au site about actually linking = people together. I'm
not sure this list is the place for that either (in = the context of south
australia), but that's perhaps beside the = point.

What I was thinking is putting together a few CGI's = to let people register
themselves as being interested in joining up with = others in a wireless
fashion, against their suburb.

The main criteria for me to do this are:

1. Time (Ahh, I don't need *that* much sleep do = I?)
2. Need (Do people want this?)
3. Suburb list

I had a bit of a search last night but wasn't able to = track down a machine
readable list of suburbs. I didn't look far = though.

What would be really nice is a CSV file, with = suburbs, postcodes, and
maybe latitude and longitude. Then we can get really = funky in the
graphical representation type stakes.

Yes, I'm volunteering :-) If points 2 can be shown, = and point 3 can be
provided, then I will sacrifice some of point 1 = :-)

        - = Justin

--
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http://hawkins.dropbear.id.au  |  it's = only 1's and 0's"



------_=_NextPart_001_01C156A7.89E88A10-- From joel@tristesse.org Tue Oct 16 18:12:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from qmail.airnet.com.au (qmail.airnet.com.au [203.34.190.140]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F83C458C for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1417 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2001 01:14:35 -0000 Received: from adl-office.airnet.com.au (HELO mail.airnet.com.au) (202.174.32.66) by qmail.airnet.com.au with SMTP; 17 Oct 2001 01:14:35 -0000 Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 01:19 -0000 From: To: Subject: Chaining wireless equipment MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_unique-boundary-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20011017011245.5F83C458C@lists.samba.org> Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: ------=_unique-boundary-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi gang, I've been playing with different kinds of wireless equipment and have come up against something that may be a wireless problem or a general routing one, but hopefully someone has seen something similar! When I've established a link between two 802.11 devices, I usually manage to transfer files between the two ends at around 300KB/s. However, when I start chaining them together, the speeds drops off to about 125KB for two and 50KB for three. If I test the speed between two points, it's still 300KB, and spanning two of the three links is still about 125KB. The equipment I've used has included: - Apple Airport to a Linux router - RG1000s with Karlbridge firmware in Turbocell mode - Apple Airport to Lucent Ethernet Converter (which is a slower link, but the same dropoff in speed occurs) At one of the nodes the devices are connected with a crossover cable and at the other by a switch. I've tried replacing the switch with a Linux router and this does not seem to have affected the performance at all. Presumably a few of the people on this list who have set up community networks will have chained repeater nodes in such a way - has anyone noticed the same thing? Anyone not had any problems at all doing this? Thanks! Joel ------=_unique-boundary-1-- From blymn@baesystems.com.au Tue Oct 16 18:18:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from sbproxy.baea.com.au (gateway.baea.com.au [202.20.20.129]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE80545BE for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:18:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bunya.awadi ([150.207.4.63]) by sbproxy.baea.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA16794; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:50:01 +0930 (CST) Received: from mallee.awadi by bunya.awadi (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA25883; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:51:43 +0930 Received: by mallee.awadi (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA24778; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:54:02 +0930 From: blymn@baesystems.com.au (Brett Lymn) Message-Id: <200110170124.KAA24778@mallee.awadi> Subject: Re: Chaining wireless equipment To: joel@tristesse.org Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:54:02 +0930 (CST) Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org In-Reply-To: <20011017011245.5F83C458C@lists.samba.org> from "joel@tristesse.org" at Oct 17, 2001 01:19:00 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: According to joel@tristesse.org: > >I've been playing with different kinds of wireless equipment and have >come up against something that may be a wireless problem or a general >routing one, but hopefully someone has seen something similar! > It may be the packet latencies that are killing your throughput. Try tuning your tcp stack to allow more packets to be sent before you have to receive and ACK - in Solaris the variables are tcp_xmit_hiwat and tcp_recv_hiwat, you need to find the Linux equivalents (I am not a Linux person....). This is a fairly standard tweak for high bandwidth, high latency links. -- =============================================================================== Brett Lymn, Computer Systems Administrator, BAE SYSTEMS =============================================================================== From tlangdon@atctraining.com.au Tue Oct 16 18:18:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au (gw2.atctraining.com.au [210.8.174.5]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF3045BE for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:18:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:21:43 +1000 Message-ID: From: Tony Langdon To: "'joel@tristesse.org'" Cc: "'wireless@lists.samba.org'" Subject: RE: Chaining wireless equipment Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:21:42 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Hi gang, > I've been playing with different kinds of wireless equipment and have > come up against something that may be a wireless problem or a general > routing one, but hopefully someone has seen something similar! > > When I've established a link between two 802.11 devices, I usually > manage to transfer files between the two ends at around 300KB/s. > However, when I start chaining them together, the speeds drops off to > about 125KB for two and 50KB for three. If I test the speed between > two points, it's still 300KB, and spanning two of the three links is > still about 125KB. Could this be because of mutual interference on the wireless links? I presume you're either running two links off the one wireless NIC, or using two wireless NICs in the same box. Either way, you have extra congestion on the RF channel. For single NIC setups, the issue is sharing the RF channel (hidden stations/channel access, etc). For multi-NIC relays, it will be mutual interference between the NICs, and they will tend to interfere with each other, unless you can set them to different channels within the ISM band. Don't quote this as gospel, just some possibilities. From chuq@tassie.net.au Tue Oct 16 19:08:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from perseus.tassie.net.au (perseus.tassie.net.au [203.57.213.25]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DEBE4118 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 19:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webmail.tassie.net.au (aphrodite.tassie.net.au [203.57.213.23]) by perseus.tassie.net.au (8.11.6/8.11.6/JA2) with SMTP id f9H2AmQ81075 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 13:10:48 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <200110170210.f9H2AmQ81075@perseus.tassie.net.au> To: wireless@lists.samba.org From: chuq@tassie.net.au Subject: Location, location Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 02:10:48 GMT X-Posting-IP: 202.7.15.34 via 172.22.191.2, 147.109.250.44 X-Mailer: Endymion MailMan Standard Edition v3.0.24 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all, In the last couple of days I've seen many "Is there a wireless network at X?" type posts. From the sites I've found, most major centres in Australia have either a network, or a site with some info, but nothing exact. http://brismesh.org is probably the best site I've found. It has a list of nodes or potential nodes, their link status, three maps (network link, topographic (roads etc) and terrain) of the area covered, and a cool looking terrain elevation tool that will show the terrain level between two points. Go see it at http://brismesh.org/db2/ I've seen the site owner has had to purchase the elevation data from AUSLIG, ($80 per tile, they are fairly large) but apart from this, the source to the mapping tools is free. I just thought I would point this out - as it looks like an excellent tool that many of the other wireless network sites seem to be in need of :) BTW: 3-5 person wireless network may be starting in Glenorchy/West Moonah (Hobart, TAS) early next year. Email me if interested :) - Charles ---------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Tas Access WebMail. http://webmail.tassie.net.au/ From Alfred.Reynolds@dsto.defence.gov.au Tue Oct 16 19:31:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1FA4643 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 19:28:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9H2TQ808996 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:59:26 +0930 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:57:51 +0930 Received: from salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au (salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.9]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id LAA02166 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:53:28 +0930 (CST) Received: from fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au ([144.97.171.1]) by salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4V34SN9G; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:53:24 +0930 Received: by fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4WMNSMF9>; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 12:17:38 +1000 Message-ID: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C065C12E@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> From: "Reynolds, Alfred" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: Location, location Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 12:17:37 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I can supply a reasonably complete set of digital terrain data for the eastern sea board in DTED level 1 format (which is fine for radio line of sight work). I also have the c code to load the data and produce height profiles :) I may even be able to provide code to spit out path losses between two points (I need to double check copyright on that). What I don't have lots of is time :) The data is about 500mb worth, if someone is interested I will look into making up a web frontend to the data and algorithms (right now I have a java based app). Alfred Reynolds Network Architecture Group C3 Research Centre Department of Defence Canberra, ACT. 2600 Telephone: +61 2 62566111 Facsimile: +61 2 62566130 IMPORTANT: this email remains the property of the Australian Defence Organisation and is subject to the jurisdiction of Section 70 of the Crimes Act 1914. If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email. > -----Original Message----- > From: chuq@tassie.net.au [mailto:chuq@tassie.net.au] > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 12:11 PM > To: wireless@lists.samba.org > Subject: Location, location > > > Hi all, > > In the last couple of days I've seen many "Is there a > wireless network at X?" > type posts. From the sites I've found, most major centres in > Australia have > either a network, or a site with some info, but nothing exact. > > http://brismesh.org is probably the best site I've found. It > has a list of > nodes or potential nodes, their link status, three maps > (network link, > topographic (roads etc) and terrain) of the area covered, and > a cool looking > terrain elevation tool that will show the terrain level > between two points. > Go see it at http://brismesh.org/db2/ > > I've seen the site owner has had to purchase the elevation > data from AUSLIG, > ($80 per tile, they are fairly large) but apart from this, > the source to the > mapping tools is free. > > I just thought I would point this out - as it looks like an > excellent tool that > many of the other wireless network sites seem to be in need of :) > > BTW: 3-5 person wireless network may be starting in > Glenorchy/West Moonah > (Hobart, TAS) early next year. Email me if interested :) > > - > Charles > > ---------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using Tas Access WebMail. > http://webmail.tassie.net.au/ > > > From mpretty@sunitafe.edu.au Tue Oct 16 19:43:28 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from pegasus.sunitafe.edu.au (pegasus.sunitafe.edu.au [203.17.112.35]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE2E845DA for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 19:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by pegasus.sunitafe.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA21845 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 12:43:01 +1000 Received: from MPRETTY ([10.0.1.101]) by pegasus.sunitafe.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA21801 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 12:43:01 +1000 From: "Mikel Pretty" To: Subject: COMPAQ WL210 BRIDGING Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 12:47:19 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-scanner: scanned by Inflex 1.0.9 - (http://pldaniels.com/inflex/) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: We have these cards running on a PtoP basis in Linux RH7.1. Is this card able to be configured as a bridge if so where can we find the documentation or software required. Any help would be greatly appreciated. ================================================== Mikel Pretty Service Officer Sunraysia Institute of TAFE PH: 50223763 Mailto:mpretty@sunitafe.edu.au ================================================== ****************************************************************************** This footnote confirms this email has been checked for the presence of viruses by Inflex www.pldaniels.com/inflex & McAfee VirusScan www.mcafee.com Installed at Sunraysia Institute of TAFE www.sunitafe.edu.au Further information, please contact helpdesk@sunitafe.edu.au ****************************************************************************** From david.leonard@itee.uq.edu.au Tue Oct 16 20:21:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from piglet.dstc.edu.au (piglet.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.1]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B614402 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 20:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ensconce.bovingdon-st.fnarg.net.au (dleonard.dialup.dstc.edu.au [130.102.182.138]) by piglet.dstc.edu.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9H3NFE11903; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 13:23:17 +1000 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by ensconce.bovingdon-st.fnarg.net.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f9H3NBw13460; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 13:23:12 +1000 (EST) Received: from cathexis.bovingdon-st.fnarg.net.au(10.100.0.10) via SMTP by ensconce.bovingdon-st.fnarg.net.au, id smtpdH26641; Wed Oct 17 13:23:05 2001 Received: from localhost (d@localhost) by cathexis.bovingdon-st.fnarg.net.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9H3MwV12538; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 13:22:59 +1000 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: cathexis.bovingdon-st.fnarg.net.au: d owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 13:22:57 +1000 (EST) From: David Leonard X-X-Sender: Reply-To: David Leonard To: "Reynolds, Alfred" Cc: Subject: RE: Location, location In-Reply-To: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C065C12E@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 1.0 (http://www.roaringpenguin.com/mimedefang/) Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Reynolds, Alfred typed thusly: > I can supply a reasonably complete set of digital terrain data for the > eastern sea board in DTED level 1 format (which is fine for radio line of > sight work). I also have the c code to load the data and produce height > profiles :) I may even be able to provide code to spit out path losses > between two points (I need to double check copyright on that). > > What I don't have lots of is time :) > The data is about 500mb worth, if someone is interested I will look into > making up a web frontend to the data and algorithms (right now I have a java > based app). David Arnold just alerted me to this thread... Mmmm, DTED level 1... The AUSLIG DEM i got was 9 second res and has shown to be problematic in two ways: - it's almost useless for people nearby each other (ie within 1km) since its so coarse - its data from a *surface model*.. ie buildings, trees, etc. structures are removed and its just the ground level... so it gives misleading plots in some cases. DTED 1 (www.fas.org/irp/program/core/dted.htm) is 3 second arc (~100m res) and (although I'm not sure) it is also a surface model that ignores structures? Can you confirm this? Alfred, it would be really nice if you could put up a HTTP interface that allowed people to retreive raw segments of your data... of course perhaps limited to say squares of size 1 minute of arc? :) I would certainly extend the brismesh mapping tools to make use of that! :) d -- David Leonard David.Leonard@itee.uq.edu.au Dept of Inf. Tech. and Elec. Engg _ Ph:+61 404 844 850 The University of Queensland |+| http://www.itee.uq.edu.au/~leonard/ QLD 4072 AUSTRALIA ~` '~ B73CD65FBEF4C089B79A8EBADF1A932F13EA0FC8 Make sure that you have enough free memory in your temp directory. - Sun StarOffice README From Alfred.Reynolds@dsto.defence.gov.au Tue Oct 16 21:08:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D5D49A4 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:08:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9H49o816153 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 13:39:50 +0930 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 13:38:16 +0930 Received: from salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au (salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.9]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id NAA07372; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 13:32:23 +0930 (CST) Received: from fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au ([144.97.171.1]) by salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4V34SPYV; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 13:32:20 +0930 Received: by fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4WMNSMGV>; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 13:56:33 +1000 Message-ID: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C065C12F@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> From: "Reynolds, Alfred" To: "'David Leonard'" , "'alfred@mazuma.net.au'" Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: Location, location Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 13:56:32 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: DTED1 is a 3 sec arc which equates to about 90m on the ground. It is topographic only (it used to be/still is derived from people reading topographic maps and inputting the data). Buildings would certainly be a problem but I suspect that its only really an issue for those in heavily built up areas (which means its not a problem for people in Canberra ;). Fresnel zone clearance with buildings will be an issue, but as a rough guide it will be close enough. I do not know of a source of info that contains structures (dted1 is +/- 30m in the vertical....), if someone does I would love to know about it :) As for the data itself, it comes in 1 degree wide chunks (with the filename denoting the sw corner of the data), with each file being about 2.76mb. I will upload the data to a webserver I have access to when I get home and then post a URL here. > -----Original Message----- > From: David Leonard [mailto:david.leonard@itee.uq.edu.au] > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 1:23 PM > To: Reynolds, Alfred > Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org > Subject: RE: Location, location > > > On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Reynolds, Alfred typed thusly: > > > I can supply a reasonably complete set of digital terrain > data for the > > eastern sea board in DTED level 1 format (which is fine for > radio line of > > sight work). I also have the c code to load the data and > produce height > > profiles :) I may even be able to provide code to spit out > path losses > > between two points (I need to double check copyright on that). > > > > What I don't have lots of is time :) > > The data is about 500mb worth, if someone is interested I > will look into > > making up a web frontend to the data and algorithms (right > now I have a java > > based app). > > David Arnold just alerted me to this thread... Mmmm, DTED level 1... > > The AUSLIG DEM i got was 9 second res and has shown to be > problematic in two > ways: > - it's almost useless for people nearby each other (ie > within 1km) > since its so coarse > - its data from a *surface model*.. ie buildings, trees, etc. > structures are removed and its just the ground level... so > it gives misleading plots in some cases. > > DTED 1 (www.fas.org/irp/program/core/dted.htm) is 3 second > arc (~100m res) > and (although I'm not sure) it is also a surface model that > ignores structures? > Can you confirm this? > > Alfred, it would be really nice if you could put up a HTTP > interface that > allowed people to retreive raw segments of your data... of > course perhaps > limited to say squares of size 1 minute of arc? :) > > I would certainly extend the brismesh mapping tools to make > use of that! :) > > d > -- > David Leonard David.Leonard@itee.uq.edu.au > Dept of Inf. Tech. and Elec. Engg _ Ph:+61 404 844 850 > The University of Queensland |+| http://www.itee.uq.edu.au/~leonard/ QLD 4072 AUSTRALIA ~` '~ B73CD65FBEF4C089B79A8EBADF1A932F13EA0FC8 Make sure that you have enough free memory in your temp directory. - Sun StarOffice README From dominic@kilbride.net Tue Oct 16 21:24:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from c007.snv.cp.net (c007-h000.c007.snv.cp.net [209.228.33.206]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 49C3C4A65 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (cpmta 25702 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2001 21:25:57 -0700 Received: from chewbacca.griffel.se (HELO roger.kilbride.net) (193.13.74.250) by smtp.kilbride.net (209.228.33.206) with SMTP; 16 Oct 2001 21:25:57 -0700 X-Sent: 17 Oct 2001 04:25:57 GMT Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 05:22:14 +0200 From: Dominic Kilbride To: wireless@lists.samba.org Cc: joel@tristesse.org Subject: Re: Chaining wireless equipment Message-Id: <20011017052214.51bd3328.dominic@kilbride.net> In-Reply-To: <20011017011245.5F83C458C@lists.samba.org> References: <20011017011245.5F83C458C@lists.samba.org> Organization: Private - Home X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.5.1 (GTK+ 1.2.9; i586-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Joel, The general points raised by Tony Langdon regarding channel interferance are of course very relevant. Perhaps you could complete your description with a little more information about the radio side of things ie chanels, number of cards ect. An interesting topic that it seems you have been doing a fair bit of research into. keep it going... On Wed, 17 Oct 2001 01:19 -0000 wrote: > Hi gang, > I've been playing with different kinds of wireless equipment and have > come up against something that may be a wireless problem or a general > routing one, but hopefully someone has seen something similar! > > When I've established a link between two 802.11 devices, I usually > manage to transfer files between the two ends at around 300KB/s. > However, when I start chaining them together, the speeds drops off to > about 125KB for two and 50KB for three. If I test the speed between > two points, it's still 300KB, and spanning two of the three links is > still about 125KB. > > The equipment I've used has included: > - Apple Airport to a Linux router > - RG1000s with Karlbridge firmware in Turbocell mode > - Apple Airport to Lucent Ethernet Converter (which is a slower link, > but the same dropoff in speed occurs) > > At one of the nodes the devices are connected with a crossover cable > and at the other by a switch. I've tried replacing the switch with a > Linux router and this does not seem to have affected the performance > at all. > > Presumably a few of the people on this list who have set up community > networks will have chained repeater nodes in such a way - has anyone > noticed the same thing? Anyone not had any problems at all doing this? > Thanks! > Joel > From tlangdon@atctraining.com.au Tue Oct 16 21:39:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au (gw2.atctraining.com.au [210.8.174.5]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93464118 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:39:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:42:44 +1000 Message-ID: From: Tony Langdon To: "'Reynolds, Alfred'" , 'David Leonard' , "'alfred@mazuma.net.au'" Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: Location, location Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:42:43 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > DTED1 is a 3 sec arc which equates to about 90m on the ground. It is > topographic only (it used to be/still is derived from people reading > topographic maps and inputting the data). Buildings would > certainly be a Hmm, where I live, this isn't accurate enough. I ran off some path analyses using software which has topographic data accurate to 100m. It got some paths totally wrong, saying it was LOS, when it wasn't (one only has to stand outside and peer at the lump of dirt in the middle of the so called "LOS path" ;) ). I am talking about purely natural topographic features here, not buildings or cuttings. My problem is I'm on the side of a steep valley, which is a couple hundred metres across at most, and the software didn't see the full depth of the valley, making gradients in the east/west direction look a lot less than they really are. I think 20m data points are necessary around my area to get a half decent picture of what's going on... Let's say that around 60-70m to the east, you're on the plateau that is much of the northern suburbs (Essendon a/p is a part of this one). Less than 100m to the west, and you're in a BIG hole - only way out is aircraft reflections (I've done that on VHF!) from planes around Tulla. Go just a little further west again, maybe 100m or less and you're back at my level, or higher. But these maps will still be good for most people. Just posting my bit of experience, to say sometimes, one needs better data than what is claimed to be "good enough". From Alfred.Reynolds@dsto.defence.gov.au Tue Oct 16 21:58:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B5948F1 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9H4xk819816 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:29:46 +0930 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:28:11 +0930 Received: from salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au (salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.9]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id OAA08295; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:24:48 +0930 (CST) Received: from fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au ([144.97.171.1]) by salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4V34SQ60; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:24:45 +0930 Received: by fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4WMNSMHT>; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:48:58 +1000 Message-ID: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C065C132@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> From: "Reynolds, Alfred" To: "'Tony Langdon'" , "Reynolds, Alfred" , "'David Leonard'" Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: Location, location Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:48:57 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Unfortunately DTED2 (30m posts) is not available (the shuttle has mapped it tho) for Australia (might be available soon, its going to be huge at 54mb per 1 degree square tho). What is really needed is some kind of dynamic vector representation eh? ;) > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Langdon [mailto:tlangdon@atctraining.com.au] > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 2:43 PM > To: 'Reynolds, Alfred'; 'David Leonard'; 'alfred@mazuma.net.au' > Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org > Subject: RE: Location, location > > > > DTED1 is a 3 sec arc which equates to about 90m on the ground. It is > > topographic only (it used to be/still is derived from people reading > > topographic maps and inputting the data). Buildings would > > certainly be a > > Hmm, where I live, this isn't accurate enough. I ran off > some path analyses > using software which has topographic data accurate to 100m. > It got some > paths totally wrong, saying it was LOS, when it wasn't (one > only has to > stand outside and peer at the lump of dirt in the middle of > the so called > "LOS path" ;) ). I am talking about purely natural > topographic features > here, not buildings or cuttings. > > My problem is I'm on the side of a steep valley, which is a > couple hundred > metres across at most, and the software didn't see the full > depth of the > valley, making gradients in the east/west direction look a > lot less than > they really are. I think 20m data points are necessary > around my area to > get a half decent picture of what's going on... > > Let's say that around 60-70m to the east, you're on the > plateau that is much > of the northern suburbs (Essendon a/p is a part of this one). > Less than > 100m to the west, and you're in a BIG hole - only way out is aircraft > reflections (I've done that on VHF!) from planes around > Tulla. Go just a > little further west again, maybe 100m or less and you're back > at my level, > or higher. > > But these maps will still be good for most people. Just > posting my bit of > experience, to say sometimes, one needs better data than what > is claimed to > be "good enough". > From tlangdon@atctraining.com.au Tue Oct 16 22:02:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au (gw2.atctraining.com.au [210.8.174.5]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F79460C for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 22:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:05:39 +1000 Message-ID: From: Tony Langdon To: "'Reynolds, Alfred'" , Tony Langdon , 'David Leonard' Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: Location, location Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:05:38 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Unfortunately DTED2 (30m posts) is not available (the shuttle > has mapped it > tho) for Australia (might be available soon, its going to be > huge at 54mb > per 1 degree square tho). What is really needed is some kind > of dynamic > vector representation eh? ;) Well, I can handle 54 megs, if the other end is fast enough (that's what one gets cable for ;) ). Yeah, dynamic vector, or even just having patches of higher resolution data where it's needed would be nice. :) 210 megs of that stuff should cover all parts of interest for melbournites (unfortunately, the 145E meridian passes almost through the city, and the 38S parallel passes about 15k south of the city, hence needing all 4 squares). From ronk@sunitafe.edu.au Tue Oct 16 22:05:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from pegasus.sunitafe.edu.au (pegasus.sunitafe.edu.au [203.17.112.35]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FAFB4B83 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 22:05:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by pegasus.sunitafe.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA02682 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:05:12 +1000 Received: from sunitafe.edu.au ([10.0.1.32]) by pegasus.sunitafe.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02593 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:05:11 +1000 Message-ID: <3BCD116E.2050602@sunitafe.edu.au> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:04:46 +1000 From: Ron Perry User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2 i686; en-US; rv:0.9.1) Gecko/20010622 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Bridging? X-scanner: scanned by Inflex 1.0.9 - (http://pldaniels.com/inflex/) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all, We are looking at purchasing a number of cards to link a number of semi-remote buildings at our campus, using point to point links. We have trialed (borrowed) Compaq WL210 pci cards and have them running, point to point happily. But have yet to try bridging with these cards. The question is: Are there any wireless cards that support bridging under linux? Any documention/ponters/advice on this would be appreciated. TIA Ron Perry Sunraysia Institute of TAFE ****************************************************************************** This footnote confirms this email has been checked for the presence of viruses by Inflex www.pldaniels.com/inflex & McAfee VirusScan www.mcafee.com Installed at Sunraysia Institute of TAFE www.sunitafe.edu.au Further information, please contact helpdesk@sunitafe.edu.au ****************************************************************************** From blymn@baesystems.com.au Tue Oct 16 22:16:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from sbproxy.baea.com.au (gateway.baea.com.au [202.20.20.129]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119094108 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 22:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bunya.awadi ([150.207.4.63]) by sbproxy.baea.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA27890; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:47:40 +0930 (CST) Received: from mallee.awadi by bunya.awadi (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA08969; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:49:19 +0930 Received: by mallee.awadi (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA25189; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:51:38 +0930 From: blymn@baesystems.com.au (Brett Lymn) Message-Id: <200110170521.OAA25189@mallee.awadi> Subject: Re: Location, location To: tlangdon@atctraining.com.au (Tony Langdon) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:51:38 +0930 (CST) Cc: Alfred.Reynolds@dsto.defence.gov.au ('Reynolds Alfred'), david.leonard@itee.uq.edu.au ('David Leonard'), alfred@mazuma.net.au ('alfred@mazuma.net.au'), wireless@lists.samba.org In-Reply-To: from "Tony Langdon" at Oct 17, 2001 02:42:43 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: According to Tony Langdon: > >My problem is I'm on the side of a steep valley, which is a couple hundred >metres across at most, and the software didn't see the full depth of the >valley, making gradients in the east/west direction look a lot less than >they really are. I think 20m data points are necessary around my area to >get a half decent picture of what's going on... > He he he - that is a classic sampled data system problem. If you have features that are less than your sampling frequency (well, linear resolution in this case) then you miss artifacts and can get a totally wrong answer as you have discovered :-) -- =============================================================================== Brett Lymn, Computer Systems Administrator, BAE SYSTEMS =============================================================================== From tlangdon@atctraining.com.au Tue Oct 16 22:26:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au (gw2.atctraining.com.au [210.8.174.5]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F6E4108 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 22:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:29:35 +1000 Message-ID: From: Tony Langdon To: "'blymn@baesystems.com.au'" , Tony Langdon Cc: Alfred.Reynolds@dsto.defence.gov.au, david.leonard@itee.uq.edu.au, alfred@mazuma.net.au, wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: Location, location Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:29:34 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > He he he - that is a classic sampled data system problem. If you have > features that are less than your sampling frequency (well, linear > resolution in this case) then you miss artifacts and can get a totally > wrong answer as you have discovered :-) Yeah, a physical application of the Nyquist theorem. :-) From lammaz@lammaz.net Tue Oct 16 23:10:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from cutter.lammaz.net (cutter.lammaz.net [212.246.228.200]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71404410A for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 23:10:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skywise (skywise.lammaz.net [212.246.228.202]) by cutter.lammaz.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06278; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 09:11:39 +0300 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20011017090953.015f41b8@chid.isolcom.net> X-Sender: lammaz@mail.lammaz.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 09:14:32 +0300 To: Ron Perry From: Mikko Lammi Subject: Re: Bridging? Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org In-Reply-To: <3BCD116E.2050602@sunitafe.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: At 08:04 17.10.2001 , you wrote: >Hi all, >We are looking at purchasing a number of cards to link a number of >semi-remote buildings at our campus, using point to point links. > >We have trialed (borrowed) Compaq WL210 pci cards and have them running, >point to point happily. But have yet to try bridging with these cards. > >The question is: >Are there any wireless cards that support bridging under linux? >Any documention/ponters/advice on this would be appreciated. > >TIA >Ron Perry Hello, Almost none of the wlan cards supports bridging since it's kind of ethernet technology and wireless cards operate in whole different physical layer. But you can create ip over ip tunnels (vpn or something like that) and bridge the virtual devices. That might cost a little performance, but it works after all. Try vtun for example; http://vtun.sourceforge.net/ -- * Mikko Lammi / lammaz@lammaz.net / http://www.lammaz.net * From dgibson@samba.org Wed Oct 17 00:18:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id 767944542; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 00:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 17:19:47 +1000 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Orinoco Gold / Dell 7000 Driver Problem - Need Help Message-ID: <20011017171947.V11355@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <3BC5F357.8010400@hosemore.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3BC5F357.8010400@hosemore.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, Oct 11, 2001 at 02:30:31PM -0500, James L. Reese wrote: > Hello all. > > I've got a Dell Inspiron 7000 that I'm trying to make work with an > Orinoco Gold PCMCIA card. I need help. > > This is a redhat 7.1 system, but I'm running kernel 2.4.9 compiled from > the kernel.org source tree. It is patched with the Win4Lin kernel patch. > > I've tried the hermes/orinoco_cs driver that came with the kernel source > as well as the Lucent wavelan2_cs and cannot get the card to initialize. > > I'd prefer to use the orinoco_cs driver, so I've removed all the stuff > related to the wavelan2_cs and here's what I get when plugging the card: > > cardmgr[583]: socket 1: Lucent Technologies Wavelan/IEEE > cardmgr[583]: executing: 'modprobe hermes' > cardmgr[583]: executing: 'modprobe orinoco_cs' > kernel: eth1: Error -110 reading firmware info. Wildly guessing > capabilities... > kernel: hermes @ 0x100: CMD register busy in hermes_issue_command(). > kernel: eth1: failed to read MAC address! kernel: orinoco_cs: > register_netdev() failed > cardmgr[583]: get dev info on socket 1 failed: Resource temporarily > unavailable > > If I run 'cardctl ident' it correctly identifies the card when it is > inserted. > > I'm using the kernel pcmcia and I have not tried disabling that and > loading pcmcia card services seperately from the kernel. I can't be sure, but this looks very much like a problem in the PCMCIA layer - the card doesn't appear to be responding to anything the driver is trying to do. I'd try the David Hinds PCMCIA package. -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From robert@concepts.mtx.net Wed Oct 17 00:42:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from dnscache.adl.au.asiaonline.net (dnscache.adl.au.asiaonline.net [210.215.24.100]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04120423F for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 00:42:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from compaq (as1-50.gam.au.asiaonline.net [210.215.33.50]) by dnscache.adl.au.asiaonline.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f9H7bls22152; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 17:37:47 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <008f01c156de$e27a9f60$0300000a@wireless.local> From: "Robert Farrar" To: Cc: References: <20011017011245.5F83C458C@lists.samba.org> Subject: Re: Chaining wireless equipment Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 17:09:39 +0930 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello Joel, I have some experience with using TURBOCELL in the situation that you are describing, What you need to do is set the base access point to non polling mode, by the sound of your problem you have that option set to poll and the unit is distributing the bandwidth around to all users rather than direct all available bandwidth to the user that makes a heavy request for data at that exact time. I hope that this helps. Regards, Robert Farrar South East communication Network 135 Commercial street west Mt Gambier, SA 5290 Phone 0417206097 www.secnet.com.au > When I've established a link between two 802.11 devices, I usually > manage to transfer files between the two ends at around 300KB/s. > However, when I start chaining them together, the speeds drops off to > about 125KB for two and 50KB for three. If I test the speed between > two points, it's still 300KB, and spanning two of the three links is > still about 125KB. > > The equipment I've used has included: > - Apple Airport to a Linux router > - RG1000s with Karlbridge firmware in Turbocell mode > - Apple Airport to Lucent Ethernet Converter (which is a slower link, > but the same dropoff in speed occurs) > > At one of the nodes the devices are connected with a crossover cable > and at the other by a switch. I've tried replacing the switch with a > Linux router and this does not seem to have affected the performance > at all. > > Presumably a few of the people on this list who have set up community > networks will have chained repeater nodes in such a way - has anyone > noticed the same thing? Anyone not had any problems at all doing this? > Thanks! > Joel > From ben@algroup.co.uk Wed Oct 17 02:53:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from scuzzy.ben.algroup.co.uk (sockittome.aldigital.co.uk [194.128.162.252]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A584CA8 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 02:53:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from algroup.co.uk (wiese.ben.algroup.co.uk [193.133.15.150]) by scuzzy.ben.algroup.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 231EB4D91F; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 09:55:47 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <3BCD55A2.DB26088F@algroup.co.uk> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:55:46 +0100 From: Ben Laurie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mikko Lammi Cc: Ron Perry , wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Bridging? References: <4.2.0.58.20011017090953.015f41b8@chid.isolcom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Mikko Lammi wrote: > > At 08:04 17.10.2001 , you wrote: > >Hi all, > >We are looking at purchasing a number of cards to link a number of > >semi-remote buildings at our campus, using point to point links. > > > >We have trialed (borrowed) Compaq WL210 pci cards and have them running, > >point to point happily. But have yet to try bridging with these cards. > > > >The question is: > >Are there any wireless cards that support bridging under linux? > >Any documention/ponters/advice on this would be appreciated. > > > >TIA > >Ron Perry > > Hello, > > Almost none of the wlan cards supports bridging since it's kind of ethernet > technology and > wireless cards operate in whole different physical layer. Eh? That's not why they don't support briding under Linux - its because the vendors want to protect revenue from selling APs. But I'm told that Prism2 based cards now do support bridging. Cheers, Ben. -- http://www.apache-ssl.org/ben.html "There is no limit to what a man can do or how far he can go if he doesn't mind who gets the credit." - Robert Woodruff From alfred@mazuma.net.au Wed Oct 17 03:37:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailin8.bigpond.com (unknown [139.134.6.96]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7957E45C4 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 03:37:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mazuma.net.au ([144.135.24.84]) by mailin8.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GLCJ7V00.89Y; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 20:45:31 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-148-137.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.148.137]) by bwmam06.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9k 8341/18319514); 17 Oct 2001 20:45:31 Message-ID: <3BCD6361.5090006@mazuma.net.au> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 20:54:25 +1000 From: alfred User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20010913 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 'David Leonard' Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Location, location References: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C065C12F@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://www.blair.cfgn.net/alfreds/ My collection of DTED1 data is currently being uploaded to that location (its slowly dribbling out of my ADSL connection onto the server). If this resource could be useful to others I can find a more permanent home for it. If you are missing a pane you need drop me a line and I will see if I can find it. Also, I have source code to load dted panes into memory (in a useful format) and code to stitch together panes so if you want it again drop me an email and I will see what I can provide (the code is written in vanilla C, compiles under linux (gcc 2.96) and win32 (msvc++ 6.0)). Reynolds, Alfred wrote: > DTED1 is a 3 sec arc which equates to about 90m on the ground. It is > topographic only (it used to be/still is derived from people reading > topographic maps and inputting the data). Buildings would certainly be a > problem but I suspect that its only really an issue for those in heavily > built up areas (which means its not a problem for people in Canberra ;). > Fresnel zone clearance with buildings will be an issue, but as a rough guide > it will be close enough. I do not know of a source of info that contains > structures (dted1 is +/- 30m in the vertical....), if someone does I would > love to know about it :) > > As for the data itself, it comes in 1 degree wide chunks (with the filename > denoting the sw corner of the data), with each file being about 2.76mb. I > will upload the data to a webserver I have access to when I get home and > then post a URL here. > > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: David Leonard [mailto:david.leonard@itee.uq.edu.au] >>Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 1:23 PM >>To: Reynolds, Alfred >>Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org >>Subject: RE: Location, location >> >> >>On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Reynolds, Alfred typed thusly: >> >> >>>I can supply a reasonably complete set of digital terrain >>> >>data for the >> >>>eastern sea board in DTED level 1 format (which is fine for >>> >>radio line of >> >>>sight work). I also have the c code to load the data and >>> >>produce height >> >>>profiles :) I may even be able to provide code to spit out >>> >>path losses >> >>>between two points (I need to double check copyright on that). >>> >>>What I don't have lots of is time :) >>>The data is about 500mb worth, if someone is interested I >>> >>will look into >> >>>making up a web frontend to the data and algorithms (right >>> >>now I have a java >> >>>based app). >>> >>David Arnold just alerted me to this thread... Mmmm, DTED level 1... >> >>The AUSLIG DEM i got was 9 second res and has shown to be >>problematic in two >>ways: >> - it's almost useless for people nearby each other (ie >>within 1km) >> since its so coarse >> - its data from a *surface model*.. ie buildings, trees, etc. >> structures are removed and its just the ground level... so >> it gives misleading plots in some cases. >> >>DTED 1 (www.fas.org/irp/program/core/dted.htm) is 3 second >>arc (~100m res) >>and (although I'm not sure) it is also a surface model that >>ignores structures? >>Can you confirm this? >> >>Alfred, it would be really nice if you could put up a HTTP >>interface that >>allowed people to retreive raw segments of your data... of >>course perhaps >>limited to say squares of size 1 minute of arc? :) >> >>I would certainly extend the brismesh mapping tools to make >>use of that! :) >> >>d >>-- >>David Leonard David.Leonard@itee.uq.edu.au >>Dept of Inf. Tech. and Elec. Engg _ Ph:+61 404 844 850 >>The University of Queensland |+| >> > http://www.itee.uq.edu.au/~leonard/ > QLD 4072 AUSTRALIA ~` '~ > B73CD65FBEF4C089B79A8EBADF1A932F13EA0FC8 > > Make sure that you have enough free memory in your temp directory. > - Sun StarOffice README > -- Alfred Reynolds alfred@mazuma.net.au From bigmoe@hwy.com.au Wed Oct 17 04:02:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.hwy.com.au (unknown [210.10.124.5]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5043A4183 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 04:02:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7076 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2001 11:03:30 -0000 Received: from tig105-ppp1.mudgee.hwy.com.au (HELO v8r) (210.10.124.233) by naz.hwy.com.au with SMTP; 17 Oct 2001 11:03:30 -0000 Message-ID: <006601c03760$e77b00c0$e97c0ad2@v8r> From: "Joel Moerkerk" To: References: <4.2.0.58.20011017090953.015f41b8@chid.isolcom.net> Subject: 2mb/sec gear and performance.. Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 21:04:49 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I have a couple of Diamond Multimedia 2Mb/s PCI cards.. these are in testing at the moment, in two computers right near each other. Problem is, i can only get a MAXIMUM of ~46kB/s transfer rates, which i think is pretty damn slow.. I am i right, or does this sound about correct? (I hope not ) Regards, Joel Moerkerk From mark@innaloo.net Wed Oct 17 04:13:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from laboratory.innaloo.net (hertha.innaloo.net [203.15.92.14]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB77474A for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 04:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diggerhome (dighome.innaloo.net [203.15.92.83]) by laboratory.innaloo.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA19971 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 19:15:30 +0800 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20011017191527.00b66620@mail.innaloo.net> X-Sender: digger@mail.innaloo.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 19:15:27 +0800 To: wireless@lists.samba.org From: Mark Dignam Subject: Re: Bridging? In-Reply-To: <3BCD116E.2050602@sunitafe.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: At 03:04 17/10/01 +1000, you wrote: >Hi all, >We are looking at purchasing a number of cards to link a number of >semi-remote buildings at our campus, using point to point links. > >We have trialed (borrowed) Compaq WL210 pci cards and have them running, >point to point happily. But have yet to try bridging with these cards. > >The question is: >Are there any wireless cards that support bridging under linux? >Any documention/ponters/advice on this would be appreciated. if you don't mind the slow down to 2megs and its only a point2point link, the older wavelan full-length ISA cards look, feel and act like boring ethernet cards to Linux, and yes, I can attest that they do support bridging - well, they certainly passed IPX and Netbuei between the two ethernets. But, enabling bridging broke other things (such as being able to ping a PPP modem link, directly connected on one of the end points) so we swapped to an IPX tunnel and Netbuei over IP. mark. From bigmoe@hwy.com.au Wed Oct 17 04:59:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.hwy.com.au (unknown [210.10.124.5]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF95E4D67 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 04:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10204 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2001 12:01:12 -0000 Received: from tig105-ppp1.mudgee.hwy.com.au (HELO v8r) (210.10.124.233) by naz.hwy.com.au with SMTP; 17 Oct 2001 12:01:12 -0000 Message-ID: <00af01c03768$f74a6bf0$e97c0ad2@v8r> From: "Joel Moerkerk" To: "Martijn van Oosterhout" Cc: "wireless list samba" References: <4.2.0.58.20011017090953.015f41b8@chid.isolcom.net> <006601c03760$e77b00c0$e97c0ad2@v8r> <20011017213200.A4201@svana.org> Subject: Re: 2mb/sec gear and performance.. Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 22:02:32 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: straight SCP? im a windBlows junkie, and not REALLY full into networking, can you point me towards a good bandwidth tester for wireless? Speed was measured via the FTP software and a proggy called netLED as well.. Regards, Joel Moerkerk From joel@tristesse.org Wed Oct 17 05:34:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from smtp02.iprimus.net.au (unknown [203.134.65.99]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8EA54DDA for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 05:34:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from williams ([203.134.149.41]) by smtp02.iprimus.net.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Wed, 17 Oct 2001 22:33:38 +1000 Message-ID: <001e01c15707$44283d80$299586cb@williams> From: "Joel Williams" To: References: <20011017011245.5F83C458C@lists.samba.org> <20011017052214.51bd3328.dominic@kilbride.net> Subject: Re: Chaining wireless equipment Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 21:58:44 +0930 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Oct 2001 12:33:38.0591 (UTC) FILETIME=[F260EAF0:01C15707] Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all, The three wireless links are all on separate non-overlapping channels, the wireless devices, which all have one wireless card per device, are separated by at least fifteen metres and the polarisation of the antennae are not necessarily the same :) As Robert and some others suggested, the Turbocell polling setting may require fiddling with. Also since part of the speed degredation was noticed over two links that were not Turbocell ones, I'll fiddle with the window settings that Brett described. Has anyone managed to do this with Linux? I noticed that I can set a window setting per route using 'ip', but that seems a bit messy to do in conjunction with OSPF. Thanks everyone! Joel From tlangdon@atctraining.com.au Wed Oct 17 15:27:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au (gw2.atctraining.com.au [210.8.174.5]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7081A4FE5 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 08:14:24 +1000 Message-ID: From: Tony Langdon To: 'Joel Williams' , wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: Chaining wireless equipment Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 08:14:14 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Hi all, > The three wireless links are all on separate non-overlapping > channels, the > wireless devices, which all have one wireless card per > device, are separated > by at least fifteen metres and the polarisation of the > antennae are not > necessarily the same :) As Robert and some others suggested, Well, unless there's a little sideband overlap (dirty Tx, sloppy Rx?), you should be right on the RF side at those separations, unless one unit is in the beam of another (which I doubt, since you seem to have covered the other bases),it seems the most likely culprit is protocol/timing issues as others have discussed. Good luck with getting the bugs out of the system. :) From ronk@sunitafe.edu.au Wed Oct 17 19:08:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from pegasus.sunitafe.edu.au (pegasus.sunitafe.edu.au [203.17.112.35]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96F69411A for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 19:08:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by pegasus.sunitafe.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA22046; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 12:07:53 +1000 Received: from sunitafe.edu.au (siot3222.sunitafe.edu.au [203.17.113.222] (may be forged)) by pegasus.sunitafe.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA22000; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 12:07:52 +1000 Message-ID: <3BCE395D.7090406@sunitafe.edu.au> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 12:07:25 +1000 From: Ron Perry User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2 i686; en-US; rv:0.9.1) Gecko/20010622 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Laurie Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Bridging? References: <4.2.0.58.20011017090953.015f41b8@chid.isolcom.net> <3BCD55A2.DB26088F@algroup.co.uk> X-scanner: scanned by Inflex 1.0.9 - (http://pldaniels.com/inflex/) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Ben Laurie wrote: >Mikko Lammi wrote: > >>At 08:04 17.10.2001 , you wrote: >> >>>Hi all, >>>We are looking at purchasing a number of cards to link a number of >>>semi-remote buildings at our campus, using point to point links. >>> >>>We have trialed (borrowed) Compaq WL210 pci cards and have them running, >>>point to point happily. But have yet to try bridging with these cards. >>> >>>The question is: >>>Are there any wireless cards that support bridging under linux? >>>Any documention/ponters/advice on this would be appreciated. >>> >>>TIA >>>Ron Perry >>> >>Hello, >> >>Almost none of the wlan cards supports bridging since it's kind of ethernet >>technology and >>wireless cards operate in whole different physical layer. >> > >Eh? That's not why they don't support briding under Linux - its because >the vendors want to protect revenue from selling APs. But I'm told that >Prism2 based cards now do support bridging. > >Cheers, > >Ben. > >-- >http://www.apache-ssl.org/ben.html > >"There is no limit to what a man can do or how far he can go if he >doesn't mind who gets the credit." - Robert Woodruff > Hi Ben (and others), The Compaq WL210 are Prism2 based. :-) Any more info from your source would be appreciated. As there are 2 bridging a packages, brcfg and brctl, is there any recommendations which to use? TIA Ron ****************************************************************************** This footnote confirms this email has been checked for the presence of viruses by Inflex www.pldaniels.com/inflex & McAfee VirusScan www.mcafee.com Installed at Sunraysia Institute of TAFE www.sunitafe.edu.au Further information, please contact helpdesk@sunitafe.edu.au ****************************************************************************** From sjh@svana.org Thu Oct 18 05:22:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1159D4258 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 05:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (shiva.marian) [203.58.30.198] by svana.org with asmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15uCK1-000259-00; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:30:50 +1000 Received: from sjh by shiva.marian with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15uCCY-0001EM-00 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:23:06 +1000 Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:23:06 +1000 From: Steven Hanley To: Wireless WAN List Subject: dell laptop internal card details (it works) Message-ID: <20011018222304.A4722@shiva.marian> Reply-To: Steven Hanley Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Some Random Email Client Organization: much sought in this hectic world Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: All So anyway as many people have noticed the recent dell laptops can be ordered with an internal wireless card. I have however not seen anything on this list as to what it is, how it works, is it supported or whatever, so I thougtht I would provide some details. The card is a proxim 2 based one (like so many others currently) and appears on the pcmcia bridge in a third socket. Although dell for soome reason call it mini pci, the card just shows up in socket 2 on the pcmcia bridge and thus so long as pcmcia is set up to load the correct drivers for the card it works fine. I loaded up the orinoco drivers with no problems on such a machine just now and all is well. See You Steve -- sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh Look Up In The Sky Is it a bird? No Is it a plane No Is it a small blue banana? Yes From dgibson@samba.org Thu Oct 18 06:12:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id D609F426D; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 06:12:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 23:12:32 +1000 From: David Gibson To: Wireless WAN List Subject: Re: dell laptop internal card details (it works) Message-ID: <20011018231232.B27159@zax> Mail-Followup-To: Wireless WAN List References: <20011018222304.A4722@shiva.marian> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011018222304.A4722@shiva.marian> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 10:23:06PM +1000, Steven Hanley wrote: > All > > So anyway as many people have noticed the recent dell laptops can be ordered > with an internal wireless card. I have however not seen anything on this list > as to what it is, how it works, is it supported or whatever, so I thougtht I > would provide some details. > > The card is a proxim 2 based one (like so many others currently) and appears > on the pcmcia bridge in a third socket. > > Although dell for soome reason call it mini pci, the card just shows up in > socket 2 on the pcmcia bridge and thus so long as pcmcia is set up to load the > correct drivers for the card it works fine. The card is actually a PCMCIA card and a PCMCIA <-> PCI bridge packaged into a mini-PCI form factor, hence the name. At least, that's what I understand - I haven't actually seen one. > I loaded up the orinoco drivers with no problems on such a machine just now > and all is well. That's good to hear - I'd heard it worked, but hadn't really gotten direct confirmation. -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From Jeff.Lessem@Colorado.EDU Thu Oct 18 11:42:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from ibg.colorado.edu (delta.Colorado.EDU [128.138.139.9]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2108640C5 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 11:42:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ibgmail.colorado.edu (lessem@foo.colorado.edu [128.138.139.97]) by ibg.colorado.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1/IBG-3.0s) with ESMTP id MAA337070; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 12:43:29 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200110181843.MAA337070@ibg.colorado.edu> To: wireless@lists.samba.org Cc: Steven Hanley Subject: Re: dell laptop internal card details (it works) Organization: Institute for Behavioral Genetics University of Colorado Boulder, CO 80309-0447 X-Phone: +1 303 492 2843 X-FAX: +1 303 492 0852 X-URL: http://ibgwww.Colorado.EDU/~lessem/ X-Copyright: All original content is copyright 2001 Jeff Lessem. X-Copyright: Quoted and non-original content may be copyright the X-Copyright: original author or others. Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 12:43:32 -0600 From: Jeff Lessem X-ECS-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Steven Hanley said: >So anyway as many people have noticed the recent dell laptops can be ordered >with an internal wireless card. I have however not seen anything on this list >as to what it is, how it works, is it supported or whatever, so I thougtht I >would provide some details. Can you tell me, does this card have an integrated antenna, or does it require support of an external antenna (internal to the notebook, but external to the card, like the Mac Airport cards)? My point being, can I put one of these mini-pci cards into my notebook, replacing my rarely used mini-pci modem? I examined the mini-pci bay of a Dell Insipiron 2500, which can use the mini-pci card, and did not notice an antenna lead like the iBooks have. -- Jeff Lessem. From sjh@svana.org Thu Oct 18 15:22:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC1D4136 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 15:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (shiva.marian) [203.58.30.198] by svana.org with asmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15uLgE-0002ZL-00; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:30:23 +1000 Received: from sjh by shiva.marian with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15uLYl-0001Pe-00 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:22:39 +1000 Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:22:37 +1000 From: Steven Hanley To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: dell laptop internal card details (it works) Message-ID: <20011019082237.A5420@shiva.marian> Reply-To: Steven Hanley References: <200110181843.MAA337070@ibg.colorado.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200110181843.MAA337070@ibg.colorado.edu> User-Agent: Some Random Email Client Organization: much sought in this hectic world Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 12:43:32PM -0600, Jeff Lessem wrote: > Steven Hanley said: > >So anyway as many people have noticed the recent dell laptops can be ordered > >with an internal wireless card. I have however not seen anything on this list > >as to what it is, how it works, is it supported or whatever, so I thougtht I > >would provide some details. > > Can you tell me, does this card have an integrated antenna, or does it > require support of an external antenna (internal to the notebook, but > external to the card, like the Mac Airport cards)? > > My point being, can I put one of these mini-pci cards into my > notebook, replacing my rarely used mini-pci modem? I examined the > mini-pci bay of a Dell Insipiron 2500, which can use the mini-pci > card, and did not notice an antenna lead like the iBooks have. saame as the airport cards, the new dell laptops have an antenna built into the case and there is a small pulg just next to the mini pci bay inside. See You Steve -- sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh Look Up In The Sky Is it a bird? No Is it a plane No Is it a small blue banana? Yes From allan@straylight.counterpop.net Fri Oct 19 15:06:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from straylight (counterpop.Stanford.EDU [128.12.17.214]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9059E4161 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by straylight (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6A3832AC008; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:08:12 -0700 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Thinkpad T23 wireless? Message-ID: <20011019150812.B10107@straylight.counterpop.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i From: allan@straylight.counterpop.net (yours truly) Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I just recently bought an IBM Thinkpad T23 w/integrated wireless "minipci" card. It's based on an Intersil "Prism 2.5" chipset, which I can't seem to find any linux information on. I can't seem to get this thing recognized by the hermes driver, so I'm not sure if it's compatible or not. The card does not show up in a pcmcia slot ala cardctl, so I think that it might be a genuine device on the pci bus. Here's what it looks like in lspci: 02:02.0 Network controller: Harris Semiconductor: Unknown device 3873 (rev 01) The card's entry in /proc/pci looks like this: Bus 2, device 2, function 0: Network controller: PCI device 1260:3873 (Harris Semiconductor) (rev 1). IRQ 11. Master Capable. Latency=64. Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xec000000 [0xec000fff]. Any help would be great. -Allan From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Fri Oct 19 18:14:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3024417B for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 18:14:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id SAA12900 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 18:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id SAA02892 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 18:15:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15ukk0-00012y-00 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 18:15:56 -0700 Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 18:15:56 -0700 To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re : Thinkpad T23 wireless? Message-ID: <20011019181556.B3999@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: yours truly wrote : > I just recently bought an IBM Thinkpad T23 w/integrated wireless "minipci" card. > It's based on an Intersil "Prism 2.5" chipset, which I can't seem to find any linux > information on. I can't seem to get this thing recognized by the hermes driver, so > I'm not sure if it's compatible or not. The card does not show up in a pcmcia slot > ala cardctl, so I think that it might be a genuine device on the pci bus. Here's > what it looks like in lspci: > > 02:02.0 Network controller: Harris Semiconductor: Unknown device 3873 (rev 01) > > The card's entry in /proc/pci looks like this: > > Bus 2, device 2, function 0: > Network controller: PCI device 1260:3873 (Harris Semiconductor) (rev 1). > IRQ 11. > Master Capable. Latency=64. > Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xec000000 [0xec000fff]. > > Any help would be great. > > -Allan Yes, I know about those devices. I spent the week hacking on something similar (Linksys WMP11). Note that it's quite different from the Mini-PCI available on Dell laptops. I've also heard that the Mini-PCI Wireless of HP laptops was USB based. They really want to make our life simple ;-) You have two choice : 1) You use the latest linux-wlan-ng from Absoval (see Wireless LAN Howto) which support this device. 2) You ask me for my *experimental* version of the orinoco/hermes driver that may or may not work. For me, both solutions don't work. With both drivers, every time I read a buffer out of the card, it's corrupted. I suspect it's because my PC is too old or something weird. Have fun... Jean From admin@megalink.com.au Sun Oct 21 00:01:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from omega.megalink.com.au (omega.megalink.com.au [203.32.93.194]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC934106 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 00:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mega1 (198.wireless.megalink.com.au [203.32.93.198]) by omega.megalink.com.au (Postfix) with SMTP id D2C8E3821E for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 17:25:43 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <002f01c159fe$0d72b0f0$058010ac@mega1> From: "admin" To: Subject: Chaining Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 17:00:22 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Guys The problem is due to Polling. The base stations evenly spread the bandwidth to all users on the network when using turbocell firmware updates which insures that no client gets anymore of the bandwidth than any other client on the network. Turbocell doesn't suffer from sideband overlapping as it logically works all data over each of the nodes. If you turn the polling off it will work in the manner of all the other access points but it will also have the downside of the other access points. If you are trying to maintained a high out put to a client I would suggest that you use a point to point base to satellite in a chain with the same channel name network name. In our test we have had 4 base station setup (same channel same network name) in the same area all on different antennas pointing at different client at different distances without any interferences from the other basestations. This is part of the logical polling the karlnet firmware can offer. I hope this helps Thanks Brenden Cooper Megalink Aust Pty Ltd www.megalink.com.au From wattsg@laboratory.innaloo.net Sun Oct 21 08:06:23 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from laboratory.innaloo.net (hertha.innaloo.net [203.15.92.14]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 823834190 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 08:06:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (wattsg@localhost) by laboratory.innaloo.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA20170 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 23:07:58 +0800 Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 23:07:58 +0800 (WST) From: Geoff Watts To: wireless@samba.org Subject: comparing antennas Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi people, we tested three antennas today, one galaxy 18dbi antenna, modified one lance 24dbi (yeah, right) antenna from allthings.com.au one conifer 24dbi antenna, designed for the ISM band. Here's the results http://www.innaloo.net/~wattsg/antennacomparo.gif Pretty interesting. We didnt have the 24dbi galaxy antenna to try back to back - but the 18dbi performed exceptionally well. g. From Bernd_MUC@gmx.de Mon Oct 22 16:32:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mx0.gmx.net (mx0.gmx.net [213.165.64.100]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D7C774B9E for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 16:32:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 29274 invoked by uid 0); 22 Oct 2001 23:34:11 -0000 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 01:34:10 +0200 (MEST) From: Bernd_MUC@gmx.de To: wireless@lists.samba.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: usb orinoco X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Authenticated-Sender: #0009180731@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [195.214.3.23] Message-ID: <14042.1003793650@www14.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.5 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: [...] > I have just asked for some data on Lucent's enquiry web page. If anyone has a > proper contact at Lucent, what we need is the firmware image (although this > could probably be extracted from either the Windows driver, or from the device > after it has been loaded) and the USB vendor commands for the device with the > firmware image loaded. It is pretty unlikely that Cypress will have much > information - it doesn't seem to be one of their reference designs. > > Brad Hi Brad, any news on the USB stuff? I just read the mailing list archives but couldn't find anything newer on this topic than July... :-( Regards, Bernd -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net From phil@kangaroopointcliffs.com Mon Oct 22 17:41:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from luca.kangaroopointcliffs.com (CPE-203-45-180-174.qld.bigpond.net.au [203.45.180.174]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5085F4108 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eyeris (eyeris [192.168.1.202]) by luca.kangaroopointcliffs.com (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f9N0rhW32140; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 10:53:43 +1000 From: "Phil @ The Point" To: "'David Gibson'" , Subject: RE: Orinoco Gold / Dell 7000 Driver Problem - Need Help Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 10:50:22 +1000 Message-ID: <001401c15b5c$b22e6b70$ca01a8c0@kangaroopointcliffs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <20011017171947.V11355@zax> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: David I have had some problems with wavelan cards and the default kernel modules. I read the Wireless HOWTO (http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/) and it suggested not using the kernel modules, but just to enable wireless configuration in the kernel build. Then use the drivers that get compiled in the PCMCIA configuration (the drivers from here http://sourceforge.net/projects/pcmcia-cs/) Doing this solved my problems with my setup. Might be worth giving it a shot. Phil. -----Original Message----- From: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org [mailto:wireless-admin@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of David Gibson Sent: Wednesday, 17 October 2001 5:20 PM To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Orinoco Gold / Dell 7000 Driver Problem - Need Help On Thu, Oct 11, 2001 at 02:30:31PM -0500, James L. Reese wrote: > Hello all. > > I've got a Dell Inspiron 7000 that I'm trying to make work with an > Orinoco Gold PCMCIA card. I need help. > > This is a redhat 7.1 system, but I'm running kernel 2.4.9 compiled from > the kernel.org source tree. It is patched with the Win4Lin kernel patch. > > I've tried the hermes/orinoco_cs driver that came with the kernel source > as well as the Lucent wavelan2_cs and cannot get the card to initialize. > > I'd prefer to use the orinoco_cs driver, so I've removed all the stuff > related to the wavelan2_cs and here's what I get when plugging the card: > > cardmgr[583]: socket 1: Lucent Technologies Wavelan/IEEE > cardmgr[583]: executing: 'modprobe hermes' > cardmgr[583]: executing: 'modprobe orinoco_cs' > kernel: eth1: Error -110 reading firmware info. Wildly guessing > capabilities... > kernel: hermes @ 0x100: CMD register busy in hermes_issue_command(). > kernel: eth1: failed to read MAC address! kernel: orinoco_cs: > register_netdev() failed > cardmgr[583]: get dev info on socket 1 failed: Resource temporarily > unavailable > > If I run 'cardctl ident' it correctly identifies the card when it is > inserted. > > I'm using the kernel pcmcia and I have not tried disabling that and > loading pcmcia card services seperately from the kernel. I can't be sure, but this looks very much like a problem in the PCMCIA layer - the card doesn't appear to be responding to anything the driver is trying to do. I'd try the David Hinds PCMCIA package. -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From stuart@coscom.net Tue Oct 23 05:31:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from kotter.podnet.net (modem13-as1.coscom.net [203.41.113.228]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 223774D76 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 05:31:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from there (bento.podnet.net [192.168.1.2]) by kotter.podnet.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with SMTP id f9NDewj06363 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 23:40:58 +1000 Message-Id: <200110231340.f9NDewj06363@kotter.podnet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: Stuart To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Old wavelan PCMCIA availability Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 22:32:14 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi All, I have two old wavepoint (version 1) access points that I was using for a point to point link. These worked really well for that purpose but are no longer needed for it. I am now interested in locating an old wavelan PCMCIA card that is compatible with these and the standard that they use, which I believe is 802.1D. I'd like to setup a roaming wireless setup at my place for my laptop. So my questions are: Does anyone know where I would find one of these? What is the linux and windows support for these old cards like? What sort of range can you expect on them? If anyone can just point me in the right direction, it would be appreciated. Regards, Stuart From mswdev@yahoo.com Tue Oct 23 06:16:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from web10804.mail.yahoo.com (web10804.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.246]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DC6AF418F for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 06:16:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20011023131733.80279.qmail@web10804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.47.126.10] by web10804.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 06:17:33 PDT Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 06:17:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Woodroffe To: wireless@lists.samba.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: (no subject) Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello, I'm looking at ussing the Apple Airport for a access point with links up to about 3.5 km and around 6 users..would anyone recommend these for this type of link would I be better to goto the more expensive access point?.. Have people had success with the karlnet software?... Thanks Matt Woodroffe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From C.Pairla@flarion.com Tue Oct 23 09:05:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from RRMAIL01.RADIOROUTER_NT (unknown [63.103.94.23]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8338C4E40 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 09:05:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rrmail01.lab.flarion.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4QA8DSMB>; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 12:07:27 -0400 Message-ID: <8C92E23A3E87FB479988285F9E22BE462F1155@ftmail> From: Chandana Pairla To: "'wireless@lists.samba.org'" Subject: Reverse ARP Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 12:07:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, Just wondering if anyone spent time on this... The ioctl to the Aironet card returns the MAC address of the AP. I would like to extract the IP address of the AP. I could use rarp but it is not functional in the latest kernels...and I read it is being phased out. And I know you can get the IP address because I am using a cisco utility that displays the IP address of the AP...ofcourse since I dont have the source for it, I cant see how they are doing it. Perhaps someone has an idea how to do this? Thanks and Regards, C. Chandana Pairla Flarion Technologies, Inc. Ph: 908-997-2026 (work) From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Tue Oct 23 09:44:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E3734E5C for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 09:44:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id JAA20296 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 09:46:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id JAA14532 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 09:46:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15w4go-00043X-00 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 09:46:06 -0700 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 09:46:06 -0700 To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Reverse ARP Message-ID: <20011023094606.C15549@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Chandana Pairla wrote : > Hi, > > Just wondering if anyone spent time on this... > The ioctl to the Aironet card returns the MAC address of the AP. I would > like to extract the IP address of the AP. I could use rarp but it is not > functional in the latest kernels...and I read it is being phased out. And I > know you can get the IP address because I am using a cisco utility that > displays the IP address of the AP...ofcourse since I dont have the source > for it, I cant see how they are doing it. Perhaps someone has an idea how to > do this? > > Thanks and Regards, > C. > > Chandana Pairla A Wireless Access Point is a bridge, operating at layer 2, and therefore is not required to have an IP address. In fact, I've got a few Access Points that don't have any IP address (and no TCP/IP stack either). 802.11 doesn't talk about TCP/IP at all, so there is no guarantee that the IP address of the AP exist. Moreover, all AP are usually shipped with the same default IP address, so there is no guarantee of unicity, and no guarantee that the IP address is valid on the present subnet. I think that the IP address stuff is a proprietary extension and if you mix card/AP from different vendors the card won't be able to get the IP address of the AP (but I didn't check). So : good luck... Jean From penso@linuxfr.org Tue Oct 23 14:38:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from zobe.linuxfr.org (zobe.linuxfr.org [213.193.17.3]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFCBC4F27 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:38:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by zobe.linuxfr.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id 7E73B15927; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 23:40:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: by houston.linuxfr.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E314412DE; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 23:32:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Fabien Penso To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Making a Linux router X-PGP-Fingerprint: E394 1C70 C7F9 B740 CD2E FAC2 18CD 25A5 22F3 8AF3 Organisation: LinuxFr - http://linuxfr.org X-Face: s?>_d9KTcY@q%=`wy|V]>qJ3jxXEx0"C'wI"&*%#7e>Qjo9`""]e%Y'!6-<=10zva81mfUdH#G=Yps-hU.rh^_hb/g,JUgaE~]B?m].Tm.bLY{yx>/&`/m7fds\"_J1#Uj1P9~2Bj/AT:D;+=h{=;)hJ!Og%_b Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 23:32:08 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 84 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.0.106 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Folks, I got a adsl linux debian router at home, which works fine since a while. I got a new laptop with a wireless card (orinoco) which worked fine at the HAL (http://www.hal2001.org/) conference. Now I am trying to make this to work at home too, with my linux router. I bought a elsa airlancer m11 PCI card, which apparently is working, but I can't ping between both. Here is the config for my laptop : /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts : INFO=3D"Wavelan IEEE example (Lucent default settings)" MODE=3D"Ad-Hoc" RATE=3D"auto" ESSID=3D"3079ba" KEY=3D"079ba" CHANNEL=3D"1" and the log says : =2D----- Oct 23 23:08:47 redmond kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean. Oct 23 23:08:47 redmond kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0800-0x08ff: clean. Oct 23 23:08:47 redmond kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding = 0x378-0x37f 0x398-0x39f 0x4d0-0x4d7 Oct 23 23:08:47 redmond kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean. Oct 23 23:08:47 redmond kernel: hermes.c: 1 Aug 2001 David Gibson Oct 23 23:08:47 redmond kernel: orinoco.c 0.07 (David Gibson and others) Oct 23 23:08:47 redmond kernel: orinoco_cs.c 0.07 (David Gibson and others) Oct 23 23:08:47 redmond kernel: eth1: Station identity 001f:0001:0006:0010 Oct 23 23:08:47 redmond kernel: eth1: Looks like a Lucent/Agere firmware ve= rsion 6.16 Oct 23 23:08:47 redmond kernel: eth1: Ad-hoc demo mode supported. Oct 23 23:08:47 redmond kernel: eth1: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode suppor= ted. Oct 23 23:08:47 redmond kernel: eth1: WEP supported, "128"-bit key. Oct 23 23:08:47 redmond kernel: eth1: MAC address 00:02:2D:2B:0D:BC Oct 23 23:08:47 redmond kernel: eth1: Station name "HERMES I" Oct 23 23:08:47 redmond kernel: eth1: ready Oct 23 23:08:47 redmond kernel: eth1: index 0x01: Vcc 5.0, irq 5, io 0x0100= -0x013f Oct 23 23:08:58 redmond kernel: eth1: no IPv6 routers present =2D----- (seems to works fine). I then do setup the IP manually (192.168.2.2) iwconfig returns : eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"3079bf" Nickname:"redmond" Mode:Ad-Hoc Frequency:2.412GHz Cell: 02:02:2D:2B:0D:BC Bit Rate:2Mb/s Tx-Power=3D15 dBm Sensitivity:1/3=20=20 Retry limit:4 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Encryption key:079B-0F00-00 Power Management:off Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 Now the router. I downloaded the last driver wavelan2_cs for the PCI AirLancer. iwconfig says eth2 (the card) doesn't have wireless extension. I guess it might be normal. I strangly have many things like: Oct 23 23:24:08 fifo kernel: eth2: Transmit timeout. in my log. my wireless.opts looks like : INFO=3D"Wavelan IEEE example (Lucent default settings)" MODE=3D"Ad-Hoc" RATE=3D"auto" ESSID=3D"3079ba" KEY=3D"079ba" CHANNEL=3D"1" I then do setup manually the ip (192.168.2.1) and try to ping my laptop. Nothing goes between. Would anyone have an idea (or config file which work for you :) Thanks. =2D-=20 Fabien Penso - http://perso.LinuxFR.org/penso/ Un seul =EAtre vous manque, et tout est d=E9peupl=E9. Alphonse de Lamartine, M=E9ditations. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjvV4dgACgkQGM0lpSLzivO8KACfVTTBO9i+43z4k3xks8RimorM XG8AnjNNUK+GtJXT/Ko/0xCN0a0NxP3I =rR2M -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Tue Oct 23 15:31:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E024355 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id PAA15330; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:32:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id PAA28342; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15wA6E-0004Az-00; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:32:42 -0700 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:32:42 -0700 To: Andy MacDonald Cc: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: Reverse ARP Message-ID: <20011023153242.C15975@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com References: <20011023094606.C15549@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <3.0.5.32.20011024081228.009ba610@pop.primus.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20011024081228.009ba610@pop.primus.com.au>; from adm@primus.com.au on Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 08:12:28AM +1000 Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 08:12:28AM +1000, Andy MacDonald wrote: > > > > A Wireless Access Point is a bridge, operating at layer 2, and > >therefore is not required to have an IP address. In fact, I've got a > >few Access Points that don't have any IP address (and no TCP/IP stack > >either). 802.11 doesn't talk about TCP/IP at all, so there is no > >guarantee that the IP address of the AP exist. > > Moreover, all AP are usually shipped with the same default IP > >address, so there is no guarantee of unicity, and no guarantee that > >the IP address is valid on the present subnet. > > I think that the IP address stuff is a proprietary extension > >and if you mix card/AP from different vendors the card won't be able > >to get the IP address of the AP (but I didn't check). > > So : good luck... > > > > Jean > > > How do you configure your access point remotely if you don't have the IP > address? You don't. Remote configuration is not a requirement of 802.11. I've got an AP that can only be configured through a serial null cable. > Mine has two, which can be totally different depending on how you configure > it. > One for the Ethernet, and one for the radio, both of which are defined by > DHCP. Well... More fun... Jean From bhards@bigpond.net.au Wed Oct 24 04:40:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mta06ps.bigpond.com (unknown [144.135.25.138]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D35E4C6F for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 04:40:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bigpond.net.au ([144.135.25.72]) by mta06ps.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GLPKSF00.H7C; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 21:48:15 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-169-110.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.169.110]) by PSMAM02.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9k 8383/5683837); 24 Oct 2001 21:41:43 Message-ID: <3BD6A961.79965479@bigpond.net.au> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 21:43:29 +1000 From: Brad Hards X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.12-ac2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bernd_MUC@gmx.de Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: usb orinoco References: <14042.1003793650@www14.gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Bernd_MUC@gmx.de wrote: > > [...] > > I have just asked for some data on Lucent's enquiry web page. If anyone > has a > > proper contact at Lucent, what we need is the firmware image (although > this > > could probably be extracted from either the Windows driver, or from the > device > > after it has been loaded) and the USB vendor commands for the device with > the > > firmware image loaded. It is pretty unlikely that Cypress will have much > > information - it doesn't seem to be one of their reference designs. > > > > Brad > > Hi Brad, > > any news on the USB stuff? http://at76c503a.sf.net is basically the current status for the Atmel AT76C503A based devices. > I just read the mailing list archives but couldn't find anything newer on > this topic than July... :-( I confirmed with Cypress that they didn't do the design of the adapter. Feel free to chase the manufacturer - I'm not too interested in this device at this device. Brad From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Wed Oct 24 10:06:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C117E50CB for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 10:06:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id KAA11156 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 10:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id KAA12824 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 10:08:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15wRVl-0004Mg-00 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 10:08:13 -0700 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 10:08:13 -0700 To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re : Making a Linux router Message-ID: <20011024100813.F16684@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Fabien Penso a ecrit : > Now the router. I downloaded the last driver wavelan2_cs for the PCI > AirLancer. iwconfig says eth2 (the card) doesn't have wireless > extension. I guess it might be normal. I strangly have many things like: wavelan2_cs contains some binary part, so you should ask directly Lucent or ELSA for support, we can't support it here. As you mention, this driver doesn't support Wireless Extensions, so either you find the way to configure it without wireless.opts, or either you use orinoco_cs that does support Wireless Extensions. Jean From lrich@ruralnet.net.au Wed Oct 24 14:29:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.ruralnet.net.au (mail.ruralnet.net.au [203.13.168.11]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C876551D6 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 14:26:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from luke (luke.wireless.ruralnet.net.au [203.29.26.9]) by mail.ruralnet.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA28013 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 07:27:37 +1000 Message-ID: <001a01c15cd2$2e0ee460$0201a8c0@ruralnet.net.au> Reply-To: "Luke" From: "Luke" To: Subject: Cisco pcmcia antenna jack mod! Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 07:23:52 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C15D25.FF563F20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C15D25.FF563F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has anyone seen this or done it? http://www.mrx.com.au/wireless/AironetModifications.htm ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C15D25.FF563F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C15D25.FF563F20-- From alan@objcomp.com.au Wed Oct 24 17:01:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from gw.objcomp.com.au (CPE-61-9-189-64.vic.bigpond.net.au [61.9.189.64]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049104177 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 17:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from objcomp.com.au (oc1 [192.168.0.2]) by gw.objcomp.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f9P0KwP09057; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:20:59 +1000 Message-ID: <3BD756DA.80D9C25D@objcomp.com.au> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:03:38 +1000 From: Alan Wilkie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fabien Penso Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Making a Linux router Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Fabien, > Now the router. I downloaded the last driver wavelan2_cs for the PCI > AirLancer. iwconfig says eth2 (the card) doesn't have wireless > extension. I guess it might be normal. I strangly have many things like: > > Oct 23 23:24:08 fifo kernel: eth2: Transmit timeout. I had a very similar problem with a PCI wireless card (Compaq WL200) which turned out to be caused by interrupts not being routed properly. It was a combination of several factors: 1. The version of kernel pcmcia support (at the time anyway) had removed the PCI stuff from the i82365 support and apparently moved it to the yenta_socket module, but yenta_socket did not yet support the Cirrus Logic chip on my card. 2. When I switched back to the pcmcia-cs-3.1.28 non-kernel tree distribution the PCI support was there in i82365, but the Cirrus Logic chipset requires a special module parameter (irq_mode=1) to be passed to get it working. 3. Some of the drivers (I tried them all!) used to rely on the card info to tell them whether an IRQ was required, but the info for my card incorrectly said no IRQ required. Later versions tend to allocate IRQs regardless. Check your system logs when you load your pcmcia controller module and make sure it's detecting the right kind of chipset and that interrupts are being allocated properly. Cheers, Alan From mfarr@cs.latrobe.edu.au Thu Oct 25 00:32:23 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from cpe-144-132-88-99.vic.bigpond.net.au (CPE-144-132-88-99.vic.bigpond.net.au [144.132.88.99]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B03D5221 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 00:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lab110-22.cs.latrobe.edu.au (lab110-22.ee2.latrobe.edu.au [131.172.124.152]) by cpe-144-132-88-99.vic.bigpond.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15001 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 17:42:21 +1000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011025172446.01f2b660@latcs1.cs.latrobe.edu.au> X-Sender: mfarr@latcs1.cs.latrobe.edu.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 17:32:04 +1000 To: From: Michael Farr Subject: Sampling Card / Sound Card Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I am built a basic software radio modem (IF only at the moment, however it wont be hard to make an RF transmitter when I am ready), and am using my soundcard as the sampling unit. The soundcard's sampling unit is slow, the sampling frequency is not accurate and it has a huge sample offset between left and right channels. Does anyone know where I can get some kind of PCI stereo sampling unit that is both fast accurate and less than $(AU)200? From mvella@flexsoft.com.au Thu Oct 25 00:43:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from shorty.flexsoft.com.au (CPE-144-132-115-249.vic.bigpond.net.au [144.132.115.249]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 297D95230 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 00:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twinturbo (mvella@twinturbo.flexsoft.com.au [192.168.1.1]) by shorty.flexsoft.com.au (8.11.6/8.8.7) with SMTP id f9P7gRk07720; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 17:42:29 +1000 Message-ID: <000b01c15d28$b1a57450$c901a8c0@flexsoft.com.au> From: "Matthew Vella" To: "Michael Farr" Cc: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011025172446.01f2b660@latcs1.cs.latrobe.edu.au> Subject: Re: Sampling Card / Sound Card Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 17:43:07 +1000 Organization: Flexibility Software Pty Ltd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://www.mgram.com.au usually has that sort of stuff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Farr" To: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 5:32 PM Subject: Sampling Card / Sound Card > > > I am built a basic software radio modem (IF only at the moment, however it > wont be hard to make an RF transmitter when I am ready), and am using my > soundcard as the sampling unit. The soundcard's sampling unit is slow, the > sampling frequency is not accurate and it has a huge sample offset between > left and right channels. Does anyone know where I can get some kind of PCI > stereo sampling unit that is both fast accurate and less than $(AU)200? > > From tlang@freeway.apana.org.au Thu Oct 25 02:01:23 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from enigma.apana.org.au (c2685.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au [203.164.134.27]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF27527C for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 02:01:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freeway.apana.org.au (freeway.apana.org.au [202.12.87.170]) by enigma.apana.org.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA10070 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 19:02:41 +1000 From: tlang@freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 25 Oct 01 18:54:00 +1000 Subject: Re: Sampling Card / Sound Card Message-ID: <4b7_0110251901@freeway.apana.org.au> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011025172446.01f2b660@latcs1.cs.latrobe.edu.au> Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: wireless@lists.samba.org X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello Michael! 25 Oct 01 17:32, you wrote to All: MF> I am built a basic software radio modem (IF only at the moment, MF> however it wont be hard to make an RF transmitter when I am ready), MF> and am using my soundcard as the sampling unit. The soundcard's MF> sampling unit is slow, the sampling frequency is not accurate and it MF> has a huge sample offset between left and right channels. Does anyone MF> know where I can get some kind of PCI stereo sampling unit that is MF> both fast accurate and less than $(AU)200? Exactly what are you trying to achieve? Just that you may be reinventing the wheel. Look at the soundmodem stuff and AX.25 packet radio in the Linux kernel. There are also software modems for other data modes as well (RTTY, PSK31, etc). You'll find reference to these and others in amateur radio circles. Tony, VK3JED .. Out to lunch - If not back by 5pm, out to dinner... -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang@freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. From penso@linuxfr.org Thu Oct 25 02:18:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from zobe.linuxfr.org (zobe.linuxfr.org [213.193.17.3]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5636F528E for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 02:18:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by zobe.linuxfr.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id 4C29D1590A; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:20:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: by houston.linuxfr.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1D65C1293; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:13:59 +0200 (CEST) From: Fabien Penso To: jt@hpl.hp.com Cc: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: Re : Making a Linux router References: <20011024100813.F16684@bougret.hpl.hp.com> X-Face: s?>_d9KTcY@q%=`wy|V]>qJ3jxXEx0"C'wI"&*%#7e>Qjo9`""]e%Y'!6-<=10zva81mfUdH#G=Yps-hU.rh^_hb/g,JUgaE~]B?m].Tm.bLY{yx>/&`/m7fds\"_J1#Uj1P9~2Bj/AT:D;+=h{=;)hJ!Og%_b X-PGP-Fingerprint: E394 1C70 C7F9 B740 CD2E FAC2 18CD 25A5 22F3 8AF3 Organisation: LinuxFr - http://linuxfr.org Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:13:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20011024100813.F16684@bougret.hpl.hp.com> (Jean Tourrilhes's message of "Wed, 24 Oct 2001 10:08:13 -0700") Message-ID: Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.0.106 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> Now the router. I downloaded the last driver wavelan2_cs for the PCI >> AirLancer. iwconfig says eth2 (the card) doesn't have wireless >> extension. I guess it might be normal. I strangly have many things like: > wavelan2_cs contains some binary part, so you should ask > directly Lucent or ELSA for support, we can't support it here. Oh, didn't know that.=20 > As you mention, this driver doesn't support Wireless > Extensions, so either you find the way to configure it without > wireless.opts, or either you use orinoco_cs that does support Wireless > Extensions. Well I just did read somewhere on google groups that this driver was working better. As I don't really care and I prefer to use the one from pcmcia-cs, I'll try the orinoco_cs module. =2D-=20 Fabien Penso - http://perso.LinuxFR.org/penso/ Un seul =EAtre vous manque, et tout est d=E9peupl=E9. Alphonse de Lamartine, M=E9ditations. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjvX19cACgkQGM0lpSLzivP33gCfdYT3WjJYLxz7MSRrFR1bI243 VSAAn2NK2EDIEARYf3ag01LYuYPvIHyH =DKJC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From milos@cb607141-a.elmhst1.il.home.com Thu Oct 25 16:54:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from ml.eugzef.net (cb607141-a.elmhst1.il.home.com [24.253.94.82]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD3C547B for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 16:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ml.eugzef.net (milos@localhost) by ml.eugzef.net (8.11.6/linuxconf) with ESMTP id f9PNiKM01266 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 18:44:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200110252344.f9PNiKM01266@ml.eugzef.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Orinoco Silver/Fujitsu E340 problem Reply-To: mzefran@eecs.uic.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 18:44:20 -0500 From: Milos Zefran Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I can not get Orinoco Silver card to work on my laptop. I am running RedHat 7.1. I have tried kernel and stand-alone PCMCIA drivers, and several kernels (2.4.9, Redhat packaged 2.4.9-6, 2.4.13) and the result is always the same: either the driver fails to load properly, or the machine crashes. Here is what I get in /var/log/messages if the machine doesn't crash: Oct 24 22:55:37 ml cardmgr[605]: initializing socket 1 Oct 24 22:55:37 ml cardmgr[605]: socket 1: Lucent Technologies WaveLAN/IEEE Adapter Oct 24 22:55:37 ml cardmgr[605]: executing: 'modprobe orinoco_cs' Oct 24 22:55:37 ml kernel: hermes_read_ltv(): rid (0xfd20) does not match type (0xffff) Oct 24 22:55:37 ml kernel: hermes @ 0x140: Truncating LTV record from 131068 to 8 bytes. (rid=0xfd20, len=0xffff) Oct 24 22:55:37 ml kernel: eth1: failed to read MAC address! Oct 24 22:55:37 ml kernel: orinoco_cs: register_netdev() failed Oct 24 22:55:38 ml cardmgr[605]: get dev info on socket 1 failed: Resource temporarily unavailable Any suggestion would be welcome. Thanks, Milos From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Thu Oct 25 18:56:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C114951 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 18:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id SAA03957 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 18:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id SAA15603 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 18:58:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15wwGL-0004n2-00 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 18:58:21 -0700 Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 18:58:21 -0700 To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re : Orinoco Silver/Fujitsu E340 problem Message-ID: <20011025185821.A18407@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Milos Zefran wrote : > Hi, > > I can not get Orinoco Silver card to work on my laptop. I am running RedHat > 7.1. I have tried kernel and stand-alone PCMCIA drivers, and several kernels > (2.4.9, Redhat packaged 2.4.9-6, 2.4.13) and the result is always the same: > either the driver fails to load properly, or the machine crashes. Here is what > I get in /var/log/messages if the machine doesn't crash: > > Oct 24 22:55:37 ml cardmgr[605]: initializing socket 1 > Oct 24 22:55:37 ml cardmgr[605]: socket 1: Lucent Technologies WaveLAN/IEEE > Adapter > Oct 24 22:55:37 ml cardmgr[605]: executing: 'modprobe orinoco_cs' > Oct 24 22:55:37 ml kernel: hermes_read_ltv(): rid (0xfd20) does not match > type (0xffff) > Oct 24 22:55:37 ml kernel: hermes @ 0x140: Truncating LTV record from 131068 > to 8 bytes. (rid=0xfd20, len=0xffff) > Oct 24 22:55:37 ml kernel: eth1: failed to read MAC address! > Oct 24 22:55:37 ml kernel: orinoco_cs: register_netdev() failed > Oct 24 22:55:38 ml cardmgr[605]: get dev info on socket 1 failed: Resource > temporarily unavailable > > Any suggestion would be welcome. > > Thanks, > Milos Sounds like a ioport problem. Try to force the card to another I/O region by adding the appropriate exclude directive in /etc/pcmcia/config.opts. Also : tell us what firmware version it it. Jean From milos@cb607141-a.elmhst1.il.home.com Thu Oct 25 21:40:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from ml.eugzef.net (cb607141-a.elmhst1.il.home.com [24.253.94.82]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768B4416D for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 21:40:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ml.eugzef.net (milos@localhost) by ml.eugzef.net (8.11.6/linuxconf) with ESMTP id f9Q4V4P03216 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 23:31:05 -0500 Message-Id: <200110260431.f9Q4V4P03216@ml.eugzef.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Orinoco Silver/Fujitsu E340 problem Reply-To: mzefran@eecs.uic.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 23:31:03 -0500 From: Milos Zefran Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: You were right on target. I excluded ports 0x100-0x2ff in /etc/pcmcia/config.opts and everything works fine. Btw., I am using the latest firmware (7.52) and the latest pcmcia drivers (pcmcia-cs-3.1.29). Thanks, Milos From manoj@io.com Fri Oct 26 22:13:08 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from samosa.chappati.org (csb3058681-a.snbrn1.sfba.home.com [65.12.10.45]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A00445EC for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 22:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by samosa.chappati.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 5B9D8126E8D; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 22:14:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 22:14:32 -0700 From: Manoj Kasichainula To: jt@hpl.hp.com Cc: David Gibson , Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: mini-PCI support for orinoco_cs Message-ID: <20011026221432.B1785@samosa.nojie.com> Mail-Followup-To: Manoj Kasichainula , jt@hpl.hp.com, David Gibson , Samba/Wavelan mailing list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: [Please keep me cc:ed on any replies, I'm not on the wireless mailing list at the moment] On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 09:55:15AM -0700, Jean Tourrilhes wrote: > Unpack attached stuff in .../drivers/net/wireless/, apply the > patch and compile. It doesn't work on my box (but wlan-ng doesn't > either), but maybe you can beat it into submission. Well, a simple pleading with it hasn't worked so far. Here's the kernel output when I load the module: PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 02:02.0 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:1d.2 PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:1f.1 Detected Orinoco/Prism2 PCI device at 02:02.0, mem:0xEC000000 to 0xEC000FFF -> 0xe8914000, irq:11 Reset done......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................; Clear Reset.....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................; pci_cor : reg = 0x0 - 7D6 - 7A4 eth1: MAC address 00:20:E0:89:0C:AD eth1: Station identity 001f:0001:0001:0001 eth1: Unknown vendor, assuming it's an Intersil card. eth1: You may want to report the MAC address and model of the card eth1: Looks like an Intersil firmware version 1.01 eth1: Ad-hoc demo mode supported. eth1: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported. eth1: WEP supported, "128"-bit key. eth1: Station name "Prism I" eth1: ready My mini-PCI card is actually (allegedly) a prism 2.5, but I don't see anywhere in the driver source where "Prism I" could come from. I guess that comes from the card itself. I get this error when trying to set up the network interface eth1: Channel out of range (0)! And, for good measure, I sometimes get a few of: eth1: EIO reading info frame. eth1: Error -110 writing packet header to BAP This looks like an ETIMEDOUT from hermes_bap_seek. Does that mean that the BAP (whatever it is) wasn't found properly? > Lastly, if you look at the wlan-ng list archive, there is a > patch to add some Wireless Extension support to the driver.o Yeah, but it doesn't let me set any of the things I actually want to set. :) Still, I want to investigate it further. From penso@linuxfr.org Sat Oct 27 06:48:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from zobe.linuxfr.org (zobe.linuxfr.org [213.193.17.3]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D930244ED for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 06:48:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by zobe.linuxfr.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id 38D2915803; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 15:50:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: by houston.linuxfr.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CCDAB182A; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 15:41:28 +0200 (CEST) From: Fabien Penso To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Re : Making a Linux router References: <20011024100813.F16684@bougret.hpl.hp.com> X-PGP-Fingerprint: E394 1C70 C7F9 B740 CD2E FAC2 18CD 25A5 22F3 8AF3 Organization: LinuxFr - http://linuxfr.org X-Face: &(.[0qo-5}TXSwe [~Je@%;XWpck*+p#5Qc(>:.x}I$&,g9$dKJZA?n"-{$h\{**<0]C"geE3sz["SDW&!j~oBb4g1!Yk& Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 15:41:28 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20011024100813.F16684@bougret.hpl.hp.com> (Jean Tourrilhes's message of "Wed, 24 Oct 2001 10:08:13 -0700") Message-ID: Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.0.106 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: >> Now the router. I downloaded the last driver wavelan2_cs for the PCI >> AirLancer. iwconfig says eth2 (the card) doesn't have wireless >> extension. I guess it might be normal. I strangly have many things like: > wavelan2_cs contains some binary part, so you should ask > directly Lucent or ELSA for support, we can't support it here. > As you mention, this driver doesn't support Wireless > Extensions, so either you find the way to configure it without > wireless.opts, or either you use orinoco_cs that does support Wireless > Extensions. Can you confirm than this module requires 2.4 kernel ? My gateway doesn't boot a 2.4 for a strange reason. So I would prefer to make this work under 2.2. -- Fabien Penso - http://perso.LinuxFR.org/penso/ Un seul être vous manque, et tout est dépeuplé. Alphonse de Lamartine, Méditations. From kleptog@svana.org Sun Oct 28 04:32:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9145C44EC for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 04:32:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15xpFI-0003tw-00; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 23:40:56 +1100 Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 23:40:56 +1100 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Anyone know about wireless cameras? Message-ID: <20011028234056.A14705@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, www.x10.com is selling what looks like nifty wireless colour cameras. I wonder if anyone here has had any experience with these, such as whether they interfere with normal wireless networks. TIA, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Magnetism, electricity and motion are like a three-for-two special offer: > if you have two of them, the third one comes free. From paul@messinthecorner.com Sun Oct 28 05:59:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from sslacces.com (unknown [64.23.82.108]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C218445CC for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 05:59:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 39231 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2001 14:00:45 -0000 Received: from cpe-144-132-235-14.nsw.bigpond.net.au (HELO memnoch) (144.132.235.14) by svs6452.sslacces.com with SMTP; 28 Oct 2001 14:00:45 -0000 Message-ID: <000701c15fb8$c021b420$6300a8c0@memnoch> From: "Paul De Audney" To: References: <20011028234056.A14705@svana.org> Subject: Anyone used or using Dlink DWL-500 ? Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 00:59:22 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Has any one used the Dlink DWL 500 , is it a good card to use ect ? From nicutz@microcom.ro Sun Oct 28 07:58:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from ns.microcom.ro (Wlnk.Mcs.MicroCom.Ro [217.156.94.250]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0431644E3 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 07:58:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from nicutz (Nicutz.MicroCom.Ro [217.156.94.43]) by ns.microcom.ro (8.11.4/8.11.3) with SMTP id f9SFpSv05992 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 17:51:28 +0200 Message-ID: <002601c15fd1$e9373ec0$2b5e9cd9@microcom.ro> From: "Nicusor Dragos" To: Subject: pci adapter Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 18:59:30 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi ! Have use someone Orinoco PCI Adapter on linux ? If yes tell me cause I have a problem with that. The adapter is installed properly I have link but no comunication ! No ping nothing else ! Signal quality is strong !!! But.....:(((( ! Thanks in advance ! From sjh@svana.org Sun Oct 28 14:13:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D3E46D1 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 14:13:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from okda.anu.edu.au (shiva.marian) [150.203.160.23] by svana.org with asmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15xyK1-0004Fr-00; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:22:26 +1100 Received: from sjh by shiva.marian with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15xyDF-0000bX-00 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:15:25 +1100 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:15:25 +1100 From: Steven Hanley To: Wireless WAN List Subject: Re: Anyone used or using Dlink DWL-500 ? Message-ID: <20011029091525.B2298@shiva.marian> Reply-To: Steven Hanley References: <20011028234056.A14705@svana.org> <000701c15fb8$c021b420$6300a8c0@memnoch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000701c15fb8$c021b420$6300a8c0@memnoch> Organization: much sought in this hectic world Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 12:59:22AM +1100, Paul De Audney wrote: > Has any one used the Dlink DWL 500 , is it a good card to use ect ? yeah I use one at home, works fine with david's driver, it is a bit finnicky to use in ad-hoc mode (the order you give its settings to it matters a great deal) but otherwise fine. See You Steve -- sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh Look Up In The Sky Is it a bird? No Is it a plane No Is it a small blue banana? Yes From jw@icp.net.au Mon Oct 29 00:14:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from icp-gate.icp.net.au (unknown [202.139.152.15]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5919B4AB4 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 00:14:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by ICP-GATE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:15:20 +1100 Message-ID: <516B1564A06AD511871F0002B3487D2603FF01@ICP-GATE> From: John Wan To: "'wireless@lists.samba.org'" Subject: Dlink DWL500 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:15:20 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I have use the Dlink DWL500 it is OK for very short distances. I tested 3 x DWL500 in an adhoc network set-up and the range was very limited. With 2 x glass walls/dividers (10mm thick), the range was about 25meters at 11mbit. With Regards John Wan From richard@server.diddyland.top Mon Oct 29 00:26:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from marvin.nildram.co.uk (marvin.nildram.co.uk [195.112.4.71]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 607FB440F for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 00:26:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 8784 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2001 08:28:04 -0000 Received: from jardino.gotadsl.co.uk (HELO there) (213.208.117.74) by marvin.nildram.co.uk with SMTP; 29 Oct 2001 08:28:04 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: dids To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Orinoco - networking hangs on large transfers Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:30:12 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20011029082652.607FB440F@lists.samba.org> Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, just found this list. I've finally got my orinoco up and running under suse 7.3, kernel 2.4.10 The problem I am having is that if I the network load is too high on the connection, the adaptor hangs, the rest of my pc is fine, just the pccard. I have tried /etc/pcmcia/network stop eth0 and /etc/init.d/pcmcia restart but they hang too. The funny thing is the iwconfig still displays values. Has anyone else had problems like this. orinoco_cs 4320 1 orinoco 29552 0 [orinoco_cs] hermes 3232 0 [orinoco_cs orinoco] ds 6416 1 [orinoco_cs] yenta_socket 8432 1 pcmcia_core 37184 0 [orinoco_cs ds yenta_socket] I am using the yenta_socket and the kernel modules I did try using 2.4.13 and latest pcmcia-cs, ( had to use modified init script ), but had the same problem. I've run out of ideas now. dids From smattila@bigpond.com Mon Oct 29 01:05:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mta02ps.bigpond.com (mta02ps.bigpond.com [144.135.25.134]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068894382 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 01:05:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from bigpond.com ([144.135.25.69]) by mta02ps.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GLYMXG00.2JT; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:12:52 +1000 Received: from BDIP-T-013-p-156-221.tmns.net.au ([139.134.156.221]) by PSMAM01.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9k 8374/7918073); 29 Oct 2001 19:06:20 Message-ID: <3BDD1C3D.515E332C@bigpond.com> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 20:07:09 +1100 From: Sakari Mattila Reply-To: smattila@bigpond.com Organization: At Home X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org, sam@isd.canberra.edu.au Subject: Sampling Card / Sound Card for Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Michael, The IQ radios used to use Crystal Semiconductor codecs and dedicated CPUs. Typical was Motorola DSP56002EVM (ca. 1995) with CS4215 codec and Motorola 56002 CPU. It went up to 50 kHz sampling frequency, thus had about 22 kHz bandwidth, just enough for 25 kHz narrow-band FM. Probably could run as a 115 - 128 kb/s radio modem. Note: Quadrature demodulator is almost same as IQ demodulator. CS4232 based sound cards are available. Crystal Semiconductor Corporation is now part of Cirrus Logic Company. There are good IQ codecs available from other companies, mainly for digital mobile phones. I have seen ones with over 1 MHz sampling rate and 20 bit dynamics. These DSP URLs may be useful: http://www.rats.fi/english/RATSlink.html#DSP (RATS.FI) http://clearlight.com/~vhfcomm/vindxPage38.html (VHF Comm. index) http://www.toshiba.de/tee/products/rf.html (digital mobile phone chips) http://www.tdma-edge.com/edge/articles/tdma-cellular-part1.html (IQ radio) http://driverzone.com/drivers/reveal/os2/sc5003os.txt CS4232 driver for OS/2 ALSA or other Linux sound card driver collections may contain useful code, but most cards are not designed for accurate sampling. The second issue is latency in Linux. Even the low-latency (<0.5 ms) kernels are not fast enough for radio use without some kind of slave I/O processor or hardware buffer. Something may come out of these Linux low latency URLs: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/ mingo/lowlatency-patches/lowlatency-2.4.0-ac6-A2 http://www.uow.edu.au/~andrewm/linux/schedlat.html#downloads http://www.replicant.apana.org.au/~jlittler/lowlatency.html Happy building ! Sakari, VK2XIN > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 17:32:04 +1000 > To: > From: Michael Farr > Subject: Sampling Card / Sound Card > > I am built a basic software radio modem (IF only at the moment, however it > wont be hard to make an RF transmitter when I am ready), and am using my > soundcard as the sampling unit. The soundcard's sampling unit is slow, > the sampling frequency is not accurate and it has a huge sample offset between > left and right channels. Does anyone know where I can get some kind of > PCI stereo sampling unit that is both fast accurate and less than $(AU)200? --- Sakari.Mattila@canberra.edu.au = smattila@bigpond.com = VK2XIN / OH2AZG From richard@server.diddyland.top Mon Oct 29 04:41:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from marvin.nildram.co.uk (marvin.nildram.co.uk [195.112.4.71]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6EFEB421B for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 04:41:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 20337 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2001 12:42:45 -0000 Received: from jardino.gotadsl.co.uk (HELO there) (213.208.117.74) by marvin.nildram.co.uk with SMTP; 29 Oct 2001 12:42:45 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: dids To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Orinoco - networking hangs on large transfers ( socket driver timing ? ) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 13:44:52 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] References: <20011029082652.607FB440F@lists.samba.org> In-Reply-To: <20011029082652.607FB440F@lists.samba.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20011029124134.6EFEB421B@lists.samba.org> Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Reading the pcmcia-howto, i noticed a line saying that if you get hangs on large file transfers, to check out the socket driver timing parameters. The card is a i82365 compatible ( wavelan/lucent ), and I've looked at the man for this, but can't seem to see anything that might help. What parameter should i be adjusting. anyone ? thanks dids > Hi, just found this list. > > I've finally got my orinoco up and running under suse 7.3, kernel 2.4.10 > > The problem I am having is that if I the network load is too high on the > connection, the adaptor hangs, the rest of my pc is fine, just the pccard. > I have tried /etc/pcmcia/network stop eth0 > and /etc/init.d/pcmcia restart > but they hang too. > The funny thing is the iwconfig still displays values. > > Has anyone else had problems like this. > orinoco_cs 4320 1 > orinoco 29552 0 [orinoco_cs] > hermes 3232 0 [orinoco_cs orinoco] > ds 6416 1 [orinoco_cs] > yenta_socket 8432 1 > pcmcia_core 37184 0 [orinoco_cs ds yenta_socket] > > > I am using the yenta_socket and the kernel modules > I did try using 2.4.13 and latest pcmcia-cs, ( had to use modified init > script ), but had the same problem. > > I've run out of ideas now. > > dids From nicutz@microcom.ro Mon Oct 29 09:39:09 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from ns.microcom.ro (Wlnk.Mcs.MicroCom.Ro [217.156.94.250]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D494B5A for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:39:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from nicutz (Nicutz.MicroCom.Ro [217.156.94.43]) by ns.microcom.ro (8.11.4/8.11.3) with SMTP id f9THVCv08876; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:31:12 +0200 Message-ID: <019e01c160a0$4994b1c0$2b5e9cd9@microcom.ro> From: "Nicusor Dragos" To: Cc: References: <3BDD866C.7C8F6636@dodgyware.com> Subject: Orinoco PCI Adapter Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:36:44 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I posted a question about that subject wich don`t working with Slackware, but yes with RedHat. I replace the PCIC=i82365 wiyh PCIC=yenta_socket after kernel recompilation with pcmcia=m and i82365=y. I compiled pcmcia-cs.3.1.29 with WLLI610.tgz from Orinoco (wavelan2_cs module) and I obtained a working Linux box with Orinoco PCI+PCMCIA on Linux Slackware distro. Maybe it`s possible some other combination but I don`t tray yet ! I think i82365 is not good for PCI and I don`t know why ! I hope that is usefull for other people who has troble with that combination ! Regards, From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Mon Oct 29 13:20:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B80F048A8 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 13:20:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id NAA06015; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 13:21:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id NAA27648; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 13:21:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15yJqc-0005RB-00; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 13:21:30 -0800 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 13:21:30 -0800 To: Manoj Kasichainula , David Gibson , Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: mini-PCI support for orinoco_cs Message-ID: <20011029132130.H20748@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com References: <20011026221432.B1785@samosa.nojie.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011026221432.B1785@samosa.nojie.com>; from manoj@io.com on Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 10:14:32PM -0700 Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 10:14:32PM -0700, Manoj Kasichainula wrote: > [Please keep me cc:ed on any replies, I'm not on the wireless mailing > list at the moment] > On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 09:55:15AM -0700, Jean Tourrilhes wrote: > > Unpack attached stuff in .../drivers/net/wireless/, apply the > > patch and compile. It doesn't work on my box (but wlan-ng doesn't > > either), but maybe you can beat it into submission. > > Well, a simple pleading with it hasn't worked so far. Here's the > kernel output when I load the module: > > PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 02:02.0 > PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:1d.2 > PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:1f.1 Shared IRQs. What a pain in the ***. They always gets us into troubles. > Detected Orinoco/Prism2 PCI device at 02:02.0, mem:0xEC000000 to > 0xEC000FFF -> 0xe8914000, irq:11 > Reset > done......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................; > Clear > Reset.....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................; > pci_cor : reg = 0x0 - 7D6 - 7A4 > eth1: MAC address 00:20:E0:89:0C:AD Hu ??? That's new... > eth1: Station identity 001f:0001:0001:0001 > eth1: Unknown vendor, assuming it's an Intersil card. > eth1: You may want to report the MAC address and model of the card > eth1: Looks like an Intersil firmware version 1.01 > eth1: Ad-hoc demo mode supported. > eth1: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported. > eth1: WEP supported, "128"-bit key. > eth1: Station name "Prism I" > eth1: ready > > My mini-PCI card is actually (allegedly) a prism 2.5, but I don't see > anywhere in the driver source where "Prism I" could come from. I > guess that comes from the card itself. Correct. > I get this error when trying to set up the network interface > > eth1: Channel out of range (0)! Yeah, don't know for this one. > And, for good measure, I sometimes get a few of: > > eth1: EIO reading info frame. > eth1: Error -110 writing packet header to BAP > > This looks like an ETIMEDOUT from hermes_bap_seek. Does that mean that > the BAP (whatever it is) wasn't found properly? Probably an interrupt issue. Check if irqs are delivered to the card. And, what else ? What happened after that ? Did you tried to iwconfig the card to see if it hooked to an AP ? Did you try to send traffic ? > Yeah, but it doesn't let me set any of the things I actually want to > set. :) Still, I want to investigate it further. Please do ;-) Jean From petar@slinky.cs.nyu.edu Mon Oct 29 13:37:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from slinky.cs.nyu.edu (SLINKY.CS.NYU.EDU [128.122.20.14]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172F6416F for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 13:37:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (petar@localhost) by slinky.cs.nyu.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f9TLd0O08853 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 16:39:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 16:39:00 -0500 (EST) From: Petar Maymounkov To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Orinoco + routing Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I recently installed a pcmcia Orinoco Wireless card on my linux machine. I am running kernel 2.2.16 and pcmcia 2.1.25 and Wireless Extensions v21 (although when I was compiling the wireless ext. it was giving me some warning message..), but they work fine. When I plugin the pcmcia card, the wvlan0 interface appears in ifconfig and the card also appears in iwconfig. seems to pick up signal and everything. however, there is something wrong with routing. when i type "route" it hangs and doesn't print the routing table past the first line. and of course, i cannot ping anything else but myself. when i unplugthe pcmcia card, "route" starts working normally again and prints the loopback routing entry. doesn anyone have an idea what the fix to this can be? thank you, Petar From dgibson@samba.org Mon Oct 29 15:35:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id 9526E4BF5; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 15:35:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:33:54 +1100 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Orinoco - networking hangs on large transfers Message-ID: <20011030103354.J16942@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <20011029082652.607FB440F@lists.samba.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011029082652.607FB440F@lists.samba.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 09:30:12AM +0000, dids wrote: > Hi, just found this list. > > I've finally got my orinoco up and running under suse 7.3, kernel 2.4.10 > > The problem I am having is that if I the network load is too high on the > connection, the adaptor hangs, the rest of my pc is fine, just the pccard. > I have tried /etc/pcmcia/network stop eth0 > and /etc/init.d/pcmcia restart > but they hang too. > The funny thing is the iwconfig still displays values. > > Has anyone else had problems like this. > orinoco_cs 4320 1 > orinoco 29552 0 [orinoco_cs] > hermes 3232 0 [orinoco_cs orinoco] > ds 6416 1 [orinoco_cs] > yenta_socket 8432 1 > pcmcia_core 37184 0 [orinoco_cs ds yenta_socket] > > > I am using the yenta_socket and the kernel modules > I did try using 2.4.13 and latest pcmcia-cs, ( had to use modified init > script ), but had the same problem. > > I've run out of ideas now. Blah. Send me the output of 'dmesg' right after you load the driver, and again right after it hangs. -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From dgibson@samba.org Mon Oct 29 15:57:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id CA15F4BEB; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 15:57:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:57:37 +1100 From: David Gibson To: Manoj Kasichainula , jt@hpl.hp.com, Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: mini-PCI support for orinoco_cs Message-ID: <20011030105737.O16942@zax> Mail-Followup-To: Manoj Kasichainula , jt@hpl.hp.com, Samba/Wavelan mailing list References: <20011026221432.B1785@samosa.nojie.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011026221432.B1785@samosa.nojie.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 10:14:32PM -0700, Manoj Kasichainula wrote: > [Please keep me cc:ed on any replies, I'm not on the wireless mailing > list at the moment] > On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 09:55:15AM -0700, Jean Tourrilhes wrote: > > Unpack attached stuff in .../drivers/net/wireless/, apply the > > patch and compile. It doesn't work on my box (but wlan-ng doesn't > > either), but maybe you can beat it into submission. > > Well, a simple pleading with it hasn't worked so far. Here's the > kernel output when I load the module: > > PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 02:02.0 > PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:1d.2 > PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:1f.1 > Detected Orinoco/Prism2 PCI device at 02:02.0, mem:0xEC000000 to > 0xEC000FFF -> 0xe8914000, irq:11 > Reset > done......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................; > Clear > Reset.....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................; > pci_cor : reg = 0x0 - 7D6 - 7A4 > eth1: MAC address 00:20:E0:89:0C:AD > eth1: Station identity 001f:0001:0001:0001 > eth1: Unknown vendor, assuming it's an Intersil card. > eth1: You may want to report the MAC address and model of the card > eth1: Looks like an Intersil firmware version 1.01 > eth1: Ad-hoc demo mode supported. > eth1: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported. > eth1: WEP supported, "128"-bit key. > eth1: Station name "Prism I" > eth1: ready > > My mini-PCI card is actually (allegedly) a prism 2.5, but I don't see > anywhere in the driver source where "Prism I" could come from. I > guess that comes from the card itself. With that firmware version it looks more like a Symbol firmware. Maybe we should try hacking the firmware logic to detect it as that. The MAC address belongs to Premax Electronics Inc., whoever they are. -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From kleptog@svana.org Mon Oct 29 16:16:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B89141AC for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 16:16:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15yMhs-0005MU-00; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:24:40 +1100 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:24:40 +1100 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: Petar Maymounkov Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Orinoco + routing Message-ID: <20011030112440.D20483@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from petar@cs.nyu.edu on Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 04:39:00PM -0500 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 04:39:00PM -0500, Petar Maymounkov wrote: > however, there is something wrong with routing. when i type "route" > it hangs and doesn't print the routing table past the first line. > and of course, i cannot ping anything else but myself. Apart from your other problems, you're having trouble talking to your nameserver. Until that is resolved, use just ip addresses. My bet is that route -n will work fine. > when i unplugthe pcmcia card, "route" starts working normally again and > prints the loopback routing entry. The gateway address doesn't resolve. > doesn anyone have an idea what the fix to this can be? Can you ping your gateway as given by the route command. -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Magnetism, electricity and motion are like a three-for-two special offer: > if you have two of them, the third one comes free. From petar@slinky.cs.nyu.edu Mon Oct 29 19:26:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from slinky.cs.nyu.edu (SLINKY.CS.NYU.EDU [128.122.20.14]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5C449A8 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:26:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (petar@localhost) by slinky.cs.nyu.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f9U3Rn617784; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 22:27:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 22:27:49 -0500 (EST) From: Petar Maymounkov To: Martijn van Oosterhout Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Orinoco + routing In-Reply-To: <20011030112440.D20483@svana.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I just noticed that the problem probably comes from the fact that when I plug the card, I get a wvlan_cs: Initialization failed! in the kernel log. Very strange. Petar On Tue, 30 Oct 2001, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 04:39:00PM -0500, Petar Maymounkov wrote: > > however, there is something wrong with routing. when i type "route" > > it hangs and doesn't print the routing table past the first line. > > and of course, i cannot ping anything else but myself. > > Apart from your other problems, you're having trouble talking to your > nameserver. Until that is resolved, use just ip addresses. My bet is that > route -n will work fine. > > > when i unplugthe pcmcia card, "route" starts working normally again and > > prints the loopback routing entry. > > The gateway address doesn't resolve. > > > doesn anyone have an idea what the fix to this can be? > > Can you ping your gateway as given by the route command. > -- > Martijn van Oosterhout > http://svana.org/kleptog/ > > Magnetism, electricity and motion are like a three-for-two special offer: > > if you have two of them, the third one comes free. > From robertl@sco.com Mon Oct 29 20:28:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from sco.com (ci27748-a.wllmsn1.tn.home.com [24.252.223.189]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D43DA4C77 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 20:28:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from robertl@localhost) by sco.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) id f9U0Wb412738 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:32:37 -0600 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:32:36 -0600 From: Robert Lipe To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: intel 2011 vs. orinoco on Linux Message-ID: <20011029183236.A12714@rjlaptop.caldera.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello, gang. I may be off the road here and am hoping for some guidance. I had an Intel 2011 pro/wireless on a redhat 7.0 system that was running fine with the spectrum24t 1.02 drivers from spectrum24.sourceforge.net. Connections to my Linksys BEFW11S4 were always fine. I then (perhaps stupidly) decided to upgrade to 7.2 and this meant going from a 2.2 kernel to a 2.4 kernel. Feeling the confusion about the pcmcia stuff being half-in and half-out of the kernel plus wanting to stay on a basically stock kernel, I chased the orinico_cs drivers. I never really got out of the twilight zone with those, but got further with the 0.08a drivers. Dmesg shows the card is found: PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:0a.0 Yenta IRQ list 0008, PCI irq11 Socket status: 30000419 cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean. cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x378-0x37f 0x4d0-0x4d7 cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean. cs: memory probe 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff: clean. hermes.c: 3 Oct 2001 David Gibson orinoco.c 0.08a (David Gibson and others) orinoco_cs.c 0.08a (David Gibson and others) eth0: Station identity 001f:0002:0002:0001 eth0: Looks like a Symbol firmware version [V2.20-01] (parsing to 22001) eth0: Ad-hoc demo mode supported. eth0: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported. eth0: WEP supported, "128"-bit key. eth0: MAC address 00:02:B3:06:04:65 eth0: Station name "Prism I" eth0: ready eth0: index 0x01: Vcc 5.0, irq 3, io 0x0100-0x0147 Ifconfig shows I can tx but not rx: $ ifconfig eth0 eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:02:B3:06:04:65 BROADCAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:20 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:9904 (9.6 Kb) But iwconfig returns sort of nutty numbers: eth0 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"" Nickname:"rjlaptop" Mode:Managed Frequency:2.412GHz Access Point: 00:00:00:00:00:00 Bit Rate:1Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity:0/3 Retry limit:16 RTS thr:off Fragment thr=0 B Encryption key:off Power Management:off Link Quality:0/92 Signal level:134/153 Noise level:134/153 Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 It never finds my WAP. That link quality number can't be good. The signal #'s never budge. Has anybody actually seen the 2011 work with the Orinoco driver? Is there something silly that I'm missing? Since this card seems to have a dozen names, I may have crossed the streams and focused on plumbing up the "wrong" driver. Any ideas where I've gone wrong? All help is appreciated. RJL From bhards@bigpond.net.au Mon Oct 29 20:41:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailin8.bigpond.com (mailin8.bigpond.com [139.134.6.96]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10719418C for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 20:41:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from bigpond.net.au ([144.135.24.72]) by mailin8.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GM05E900.J5J for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 14:49:21 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-169-110.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.169.110]) by bwmam02.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9k 8317/13477288); 30 Oct 2001 14:42:49 Message-ID: <3BDE3031.1D6E9A16@bigpond.net.au> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 15:44:34 +1100 From: Brad Hards X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.12-ac2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Skynet Global compatibility? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I picked up a brochure for a company offering wireless access in some areas (http://www.skynetglobal.com), and it looked kind of interesting (range of plans, probably 22c/min). Has anyone played with this with Linux (specifically, with a 2.4 kernel, and the orinoco driver for a Prism II type card)? Also, does anyone know how the authentication works? Brad From audiobuzz@hotmail.com Mon Oct 29 20:45:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from hotmail.com (f170.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.170]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0197A4103 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 20:45:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 20:47:06 -0800 Received: from 203.5.217.4 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 04:47:05 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.5.217.4] From: "audiobuzz ." To: Graham.Rawolle@unisa.edu.au, justin@hawkins.dropbear.id.au, cisbjc@cs.unisa.edu.au Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: Wireless in Adelaide? Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 04:47:05 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Oct 2001 04:47:06.0232 (UTC) FILETIME=[ED00A780:01C160FD] Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I'm interested but never found anyone close enought to me to link with. If anyone is near the alberton area then I might consider it depending on the cost of equipment. AB >From: Graham Rawolle >To: 'Justin Hawkins' , Benjamin Close > >CC: wireless@lists.samba.org >Subject: RE: Wireless in Adelaide? >Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:33:31 +0930 > >I'm interested. I live in Hope Valley. >I registered my interest with www.adelaide.air.net.au >at least 6 months ago, but never heard anything back. > > Graham Rawolle > Information Technology > University of South Australia > Mawson Lakes > >-----Original Message----- >From: Justin Hawkins [mailto:justin@hawkins.dropbear.id.au] >Sent: Wednesday, 17 October 2001 10:08 AM >To: Benjamin Close >Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org >Subject: Re: Wireless in Adelaide? > > >On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Benjamin Close wrote: > > > Hi All, > > I've found a little spare time and are interested in joining any > > wireless networks which might be existing in Adelaide, Australia. So > > what's around? air.net.au mentions that something might be going on but > > gives no details. If nothing exists, I'm very tempted to see what I can > > setup. > >Hi Benjamin, > >As I see it there is a dearth of information on the >www.adelaide.air.net.au site about actually linking people together. I'm >not sure this list is the place for that either (in the context of south >australia), but that's perhaps beside the point. > >What I was thinking is putting together a few CGI's to let people register >themselves as being interested in joining up with others in a wireless >fashion, against their suburb. > >The main criteria for me to do this are: > >1. Time (Ahh, I don't need *that* much sleep do I?) >2. Need (Do people want this?) >3. Suburb list > >I had a bit of a search last night but wasn't able to track down a machine >readable list of suburbs. I didn't look far though. > >What would be really nice is a CSV file, with suburbs, postcodes, and >maybe latitude and longitude. Then we can get really funky in the >graphical representation type stakes. > >Yes, I'm volunteering :-) If points 2 can be shown, and point 3 can be >provided, then I will sacrifice some of point 1 :-) > > - Justin > >-- >justin@hawkins.dropbear.id.au | "Don't sweat it -- >http://hawkins.dropbear.id.au | it's only 1's and 0's" > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From Robert.Edwards@anu.edu.au Mon Oct 29 21:34:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from cs.anu.edu.au (cs.anu.edu.au [150.203.164.35]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 890F64C5D for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 21:34:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from anu.edu.au (tux [150.203.160.12]) by cs.anu.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA10708; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 16:34:58 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <3BDE3C1D.F0C90E6A@anu.edu.au> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 16:35:25 +1100 From: Bob Edwards Organization: Australian National University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brad Hards Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Skynet Global compatibility? References: <3BDE3031.1D6E9A16@bigpond.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Brad Hards wrote: > > I picked up a brochure for a company offering wireless access in some areas > (http://www.skynetglobal.com), and it looked kind of interesting (range of > plans, probably 22c/min). > > Has anyone played with this with Linux (specifically, with a 2.4 kernel, and > the orinoco driver for a Prism II type card)? > > Also, does anyone know how the authentication works? > > Brad Had a look at this site - not so easy to work out exactly what they are selling! Anyway, they will probably make a lot of money - on their "Sign-up Now" page they define: 'MB' means Megabyte equalling 1000 bytes and represents traffic usage on the Internet so, if they can sell someone 20 MB of data and only have to pay for 20k, they are going to be WAY out in front. Cheers, Bob Edwards. From Matthew.Wright@bridge.com Mon Oct 29 23:10:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from bcfw1d.bridge.com (bcfw1d.ext.bridge.com [167.76.159.31]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785814184 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 23:10:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by bcfw1d.bridge.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) id f9U7DNM02871 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 01:13:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from (unknown [167.76.56.34]) by bcfw1d via smap (V2.1) id xma002827; Tue, 30 Oct 01 01:13:05 -0600 Received: from eximcx2.bridge.com (eximcx2.bridge.com [167.76.56.15]) by mail1srv.bridge.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA16405 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 01:12:04 -0600 (CST) Received: by eximcx2.bridge.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 01:11:40 -0600 Message-ID: <91836B659EA6D311BA4F00C04F645598AB6A74@exchmel2.bridge.com> From: "Wright, Matthew" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Sparcstation 5 Workstations Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 01:11:17 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Is Anybody in Melbourne interested in Aquiring 4x Sparcstation 5s I will have to sell them cash only during business hours we are getting rid of them, and I don't want them to goto waste. You can purchase them individually if you wish. The price asking is $100 if you think that is too steep still register your interest, and I will let my boss no. I think they have 128MB ram, I aslo have some monitors for them. (Another $100) Cheers, Matt PS Please email me with your offer. (Sorry if this is a bad place to advertise -- I just thought that enthusiasts might be interested also some of the sparcstations (Maybe 2) are multihomed (dual network cards) From w.lila@ee.unsw.edu.au Tue Oct 30 00:33:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from thunderbird.comms.unsw.edu.au (thunderbird.comms.unsw.EDU.AU [149.171.96.70]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC27748D0 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 00:32:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from alpha400.ee.unsw.edu.au (alpha400.ee.unsw.EDU.AU [149.171.36.48]) by thunderbird.comms.unsw.edu.au (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f9U8X8T09919 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 19:33:08 +1100 (EST) Received: from ee.unsw.edu.au ([129.94.230.92]) by alpha400.ee.unsw.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA15854 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 19:34:06 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <3BDE655E.B9CAE21C@ee.unsw.edu.au> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 19:31:26 +1100 From: woraphon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.3-20mdk i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Orinoco problem ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Dear all I 'm using a wireless lan (Orinoco 11Mbps silver) which the driver is wavelan2_cs on Linux Mandrake 8 (kernel 2.4.7-12.3mdk) I 'ld like to change some parameters of a wavelan, for example, the retransmission rate in MAC ,Tx power and etc ,by the wireless tool v.21. But I can not do such ,it showed that "SIOCSIWRETRY :Operation not supported" Can anyone tell me how to change parameters on this wireless lan card ? thank you woraphon From richard@diddyland.com Tue Oct 30 02:04:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from marvin.nildram.co.uk (marvin.nildram.co.uk [195.112.4.71]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E5B3E4441 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 02:04:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 27714 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2001 10:05:12 -0000 Received: from jardino.gotadsl.co.uk (HELO there) (213.208.117.74) by marvin.nildram.co.uk with SMTP; 30 Oct 2001 10:05:12 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: dids To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Orinoco sensitivity 1/3 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:07:22 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20011030100403.E5B3E4441@lists.samba.org> Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: What does sensitivity 1/3 mean in the results from iwconfig ? dids From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Tue Oct 30 10:33:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9DD64EC9 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:31:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id KAA24738 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:32:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id KAA22316 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:32:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15ydgZ-0007x8-00 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:32:27 -0800 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:32:27 -0800 To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re : intel 2011 vs. orinoco on Linux Message-ID: <20011030103227.A30556@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Robert Lipe wrote : > eth0 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"" Nickname:"rjlaptop" > Mode:Managed Frequency:2.412GHz Access Point: 00:00:00:00:00:00 > Bit Rate:1Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity:0/3 > Retry limit:16 RTS thr:off Fragment thr=0 B > Encryption key:off > Power Management:off > Link Quality:0/92 Signal level:134/153 Noise level:134/153 > Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 Maybe setting an ESSID would help. Please try : > iwconfig eth0 essid "xxxxx" > iwpriv eth0 force_reset And show us what iwconfig says after that. Please also give us the content of /proc/interrupts to see if irqs are properly delivered. Jean From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Tue Oct 30 10:34:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565004ECA for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:34:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id KAA24998 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:35:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id KAA22903 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:35:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15ydjf-0007xO-00 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:35:39 -0800 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:35:39 -0800 To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re : Orinoco sensitivity 1/3 Message-ID: <20011030103539.B30556@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: dids wrote : > What does sensitivity 1/3 mean in the results from iwconfig > > ? > > dids Depend on the driver. For orinoco_cs, it's the famous AP density (available in Win drivers). Check you Orinoco doc to see what it means. Jean From tlangdon@atctraining.com.au Tue Oct 30 13:07:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au (gw2.atctraining.com.au [210.8.174.5]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3424E15 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 13:07:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:09:47 +1100 Message-ID: From: Tony Langdon To: "'Wright, Matthew'" , wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: Sparcstation 5 Workstations Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:09:46 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Is Anybody in Melbourne interested in Aquiring 4x Sparcstation 5s > > I will have to sell them cash only during business hours we > are getting rid > of them, and I don't want them to goto waste. > > You can purchase them individually if you wish. The price > asking is $100 if > you think that is too steep still register your interest, and > I will let my > boss no. > > I think they have 128MB ram, I aslo have some monitors for > them. (Another > $100) Wish I had the spare cash. Wouldn't mind one to play with, but I'll have to pass on the offer. Might also be worth mentioning in the Linux user groups (I presume Linux/Sparc will run on them :) ). From Matthew.Wright@bridge.com Tue Oct 30 16:52:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from bcfw1d.bridge.com (bcfw1d.ext.bridge.com [167.76.159.31]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA8040C5 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 16:52:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by bcfw1d.bridge.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) id f9V0t5o08271 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:55:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from (unknown [167.76.56.34]) by bcfw1d via smap (V2.1) id xma008230; Tue, 30 Oct 01 18:54:50 -0600 Received: from eximcx2.bridge.com (eximcx2.bridge.com [167.76.56.15]) by mail1srv.bridge.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA24059 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:53:48 -0600 (CST) Received: by eximcx2.bridge.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:53:25 -0600 Message-ID: <91836B659EA6D311BA4F00C04F645598AB6A7A@exchmel2.bridge.com> From: "Wright, Matthew" To: "'wireless@lists.samba.org'" Subject: FW: 2nd hand Network Equip from our office in Collins St Melbourn e Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:53:22 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: More Second Hand Network Equipment Below is a list of some 2nd hand equipment which we currently have. 4 x 5KT Pro Marathon Micom Multiplexors 1 x 5K Turbo Marathon Micom Multiplexor 3 x 5K Marathon Micom Multiplexor Nortel 5000 Chassis with 1x 5616/SA Network Management module and 2 x 5606 10/100 Mbs Ethernet/Fast Ethernet Host modules and a dual power supply. 3 x Comstream Digital Satelite modems, model CM701 4 x Comstream Intellicast101 Didital Receivers If you are interested in the above equipment could you please contact me on 9018 5941 Thanks, Matthew Wright Field Service Engineer Moneyline Telerate Melbourne From manoj@io.com Tue Oct 30 16:55:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from samosa.chappati.org (gate.sp.collab.net [64.211.228.36]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA074186 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 16:55:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by samosa.chappati.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 1300112712E; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 16:56:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 16:56:39 -0800 From: Manoj Kasichainula To: jt@hpl.hp.com, Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: mini-PCI support for orinoco_cs Message-ID: <20011031005639.GD8637@samosa.chappati.org> Mail-Followup-To: Manoj Kasichainula , jt@hpl.hp.com, Samba/Wavelan mailing list References: <20011026221432.B1785@samosa.nojie.com> <20011030105737.O16942@zax> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011030105737.O16942@zax> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 10:57:37AM +1100, David Gibson wrote: > With that firmware version it looks more like a Symbol firmware. > Maybe we should try hacking the firmware logic to detect it as that. > The MAC address belongs to Premax Electronics Inc., whoever they are. lspci -v says: 02:02.0 Network controller: Harris Semiconductor: Unknown device 3873 (rev 01) Subsystem: Action Tec Electronics Inc: Unknown device 0406 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11 Memory at ec000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2 And IIRC, the windows driver had an "Actiontec" logo. From mallum@10.am Wed Oct 31 02:22:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from localhost (lan.ipc.co.uk [193.119.160.10]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57900453B for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 02:22:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mallum by localhost with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15ysQf-00007p-00 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:17:01 +0000 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:17:00 +0000 From: mallum To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Prism2, DWL-650 and ISA adaptor problems Message-ID: <20011031101700.A473@10.am> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all; Im using a 2.4.12 Linux kernel with the latest pcmcia-cs package ( with the Prism2 AP driver added ). The machine has a ISA->PCMCIA adaptor, which I've had no problems with in the past ( using wavelan card and udrive ). Unfortunatly it fails to correctly load my DWL-650 card. The Prism2 drivers appear to load but then fail. Here's what I get ( via dmesg ); Intel ISA/PCI/CardBus PCIC probe: Intel i82365sl B step rev 00 ISA-to-PCMCIA at port 0x3e0 ofs 0x00 host opts [0]: none host opts [1]: none ISA irqs (scanned) = 3,4,5,7 polling interval = 1000 ms cs: memory probe 0x0d0000-0x0dffff: clean. prism2: prism2.c 0.0.0 2001-09-27 (SSH Communications Security Corp,Jouni Malinen) prism2: (c) SSH Communications Security Corp prism2: setting Vcc=33 (constant) prism2: CS_EVENT_CARD_INSERTION prism2_config() prism2: setting Vcc=50 (from config) CISTPL_MANFID: 0x0156, 0x0002 Lucent-based card Checking CFTABLE_ENTRY 0x01 (default 0x01) prism2: GetNextTuple: No more items prism2_release release -> prism2_hw_shutdown prism2: card not configured release <- prism2_hw_shutdown release: CardServices(Release*) done release - done prism2_detach Can anybody help ? Many thanks -- Matthew Allum From mvella@flexsoft.com.au Wed Oct 31 04:05:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from shorty.flexsoft.com.au (CPE-144-132-115-249.vic.bigpond.net.au [144.132.115.249]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A884164 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 04:05:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from twinturbo (mvella@twinturbo.flexsoft.com.au [192.168.1.1]) by shorty.flexsoft.com.au (8.11.6/8.8.7) with SMTP id f9VC5Tv30903; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 23:05:29 +1100 Message-ID: <000401c16204$55d57bd0$c901a8c0@flexsoft.com.au> From: "Matthew Vella" To: "mallum" Cc: References: <20011031101700.A473@10.am> Subject: Re: Prism2, DWL-650 and ISA adaptor problems Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 23:05:29 +1100 Organization: Flexibility Software Pty Ltd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: The DWL-650 is a Cardbus (32 bit) card - I doubt it will ever work in any ISA->PCMCIA (16 bit) adaptor. You will need a PCI->Cardbus adaptor. ----- Original Message ----- From: "mallum" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 9:17 PM Subject: Prism2, DWL-650 and ISA adaptor problems > Hi all; > > Im using a 2.4.12 Linux kernel with the latest pcmcia-cs package ( with the > Prism2 AP driver added ). The machine has a ISA->PCMCIA adaptor, which > I've had no problems with in the past ( using wavelan card and > udrive ). > > Unfortunatly it fails to correctly load my DWL-650 card. The Prism2 > drivers appear to load but then fail. Here's what I get ( via dmesg ); > From mallum@10.am Wed Oct 31 04:11:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from localhost (lan.ipc.co.uk [193.119.160.10]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C34064DA6 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 04:11:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mallum by localhost with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15yu7g-0000BV-00; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 12:05:32 +0000 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 12:05:30 +0000 From: mallum To: Matthew Vella Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Prism2, DWL-650 and ISA adaptor problems Message-ID: <20011031120530.A702@10.am> References: <20011031101700.A473@10.am> <000401c16204$55d57bd0$c901a8c0@flexsoft.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000401c16204$55d57bd0$c901a8c0@flexsoft.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: ouch. I had feared this may have been the case :( Do PCI->Cardbus adptors work ok ? I remember once hearing these would only work with linux if your motherboard had no ISA slots ...? -- Matthew on Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 11:05:29PM +1100, Matthew Vella wrote: > The DWL-650 is a Cardbus (32 bit) card - I doubt it will ever work in any > ISA->PCMCIA (16 bit) adaptor. > > You will need a PCI->Cardbus adaptor. > From agd5f@yahoo.com Wed Oct 31 06:57:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from web11301.mail.yahoo.com (web11301.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.204]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2143B4FC9 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 06:53:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011031145437.57843.qmail@web11301.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [153.39.171.230] by web11301.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 06:54:37 PST Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 06:54:37 -0800 (PST) From: Alex Deucher Subject: Prism2, DWL-650 and ISA adaptor problems To: mvella@flexsoft.com.au, breakfast@10.am Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: The DWL-650 is NOT a cardbus card. It's regular pcmcia. I have one and it works fine in my libretto 50ct with 16-bit ISA PCIC. Cardbus cards have a gold strip above the connector. Alex ----------------------- The DWL-650 is a Cardbus (32 bit) card - I doubt it will ever work in any ISA->PCMCIA (16 bit) adaptor. You will need a PCI->Cardbus adaptor. ----- Original Message ----- From: "mallum" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 9:17 PM Subject: Prism2, DWL-650 and ISA adaptor problems > Hi all; > > Im using a 2.4.12 Linux kernel with the latest pcmcia-cs package ( with the > Prism2 AP driver added ). The machine has a ISA->PCMCIA adaptor, which > I've had no problems with in the past ( using wavelan card and > udrive ). > > Unfortunatly it fails to correctly load my DWL-650 card. The Prism2 > drivers appear to load but then fail. Here's what I get ( via dmesg ); > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From mallum@10.am Wed Oct 31 08:10:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from localhost (lan.ipc.co.uk [193.119.160.10]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18594F89 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 07:39:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mallum by localhost with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15yxMm-0000HC-00; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:33:20 +0000 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:33:18 +0000 From: Matthew Allum To: Alex Deucher Cc: mvella@flexsoft.com.au, wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Prism2, DWL-650 and ISA adaptor problems Message-ID: <20011031153318.B1043@10.am> References: <20011031145437.57843.qmail@web11301.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011031145437.57843.qmail@web11301.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: hmm, Im confused. http://www.dlink.com/products/wireless/dwl650/SpecsTable.htm Says it needs a 'Cardbus Controller' -- mallum on Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 06:54:37AM -0800, Alex Deucher wrote: > The DWL-650 is NOT a cardbus card. It's regular > pcmcia. I have one and it works fine in my libretto > 50ct with 16-bit ISA PCIC. Cardbus cards have a gold > strip above the connector. > > Alex > > ----------------------- > > The DWL-650 is a Cardbus (32 bit) card - I doubt it > will ever work in any > ISA->PCMCIA (16 bit) adaptor. > > You will need a PCI->Cardbus adaptor. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mallum" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 9:17 PM > Subject: Prism2, DWL-650 and ISA adaptor problems > > > > Hi all; > > > > Im using a 2.4.12 Linux kernel with the latest > pcmcia-cs package ( with > the > > Prism2 AP driver added ). The machine has a > ISA->PCMCIA adaptor, which > > I've had no problems with in the past ( using > wavelan card and > > udrive ). > > > > Unfortunatly it fails to correctly load my DWL-650 > card. The Prism2 > > drivers appear to load but then fail. Here's what I > get ( via dmesg ); > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > http://personals.yahoo.com From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Wed Oct 31 10:42:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 093C951EA for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:17:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id KAA21220 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:18:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id KAA28318 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:18:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15yzwX-0008Fv-00 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:18:25 -0800 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:18:25 -0800 To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re : Prism2, DWL-650 and ISA adaptor problems Message-ID: <20011031101825.B31697@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Matthew Vella wrote : > The DWL-650 is a Cardbus (32 bit) card - I doubt it will ever work in any > ISA->PCMCIA (16 bit) adaptor. > > You will need a PCI->Cardbus adaptor. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mallum" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 9:17 PM > Subject: Prism2, DWL-650 and ISA adaptor problems > > > > Hi all; > > > > Im using a 2.4.12 Linux kernel with the latest pcmcia-cs package ( with > the > > Prism2 AP driver added ). The machine has a ISA->PCMCIA adaptor, which > > I've had no problems with in the past ( using wavelan card and > > udrive ). > > > > Unfortunatly it fails to correctly load my DWL-650 card. The Prism2 > > drivers appear to load but then fail. Here's what I get ( via dmesg ); This is wrong. My DWL 650 is a 16 bit card and work perfectly in a ISA-Pcmcia slot (except for the usual Intersil firmware bugs). The problem is that the card has a buggy CIS and doesn't advertise voltage properly. With orinoco_cs, you use the "ignore_cis_vcc" trick as indicated in the release notes. Jean From mvella@flexsoft.com.au Wed Oct 31 13:35:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from shorty.flexsoft.com.au (CPE-144-132-115-249.vic.bigpond.net.au [144.132.115.249]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 924A552A4 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:32:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from twinturbo (mvella@twinturbo.flexsoft.com.au [192.168.1.1]) by shorty.flexsoft.com.au (8.11.6/8.8.7) with SMTP id f9VLXQv02646 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 08:33:27 +1100 Message-ID: <018b01c16253$a9d7e2f0$c901a8c0@flexsoft.com.au> From: "Matthew Vella" To: References: <20011031101825.B31697@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Subject: Re: Prism2, DWL-650 and ISA adaptor problems Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 08:33:21 +1100 Organization: Flexibility Software Pty Ltd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > > This is wrong. My DWL 650 is a 16 bit card and work perfectly > in a ISA-Pcmcia slot (except for the usual Intersil firmware bugs). > The problem is that the card has a buggy CIS and doesn't > advertise voltage properly. With orinoco_cs, you use the > "ignore_cis_vcc" trick as indicated in the release notes. > Thanks for the correction. I read the specs on the DLink site, and when the card I have wouldn't work in various PCMCIA machines, but DID in a Cardbus machine, I just assumed the manufacturer's information was correct. I am very pleased to find out they (and I) were wrong :-) Matt. From sjh@svana.org Wed Oct 31 14:31:09 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E444C4C6D for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 14:30:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from okda.anu.edu.au (shiva.marian) [150.203.160.23] by svana.org with asmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15z40x-00087s-00; Thu, 01 Nov 2001 09:39:15 +1100 Received: from sjh by shiva.marian with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15z3u3-0000Ek-00 for ; Thu, 01 Nov 2001 09:32:07 +1100 Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 09:32:07 +1100 From: Steven Hanley To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Prism2, DWL-650 and ISA adaptor problems Message-ID: <20011101093205.A569@shiva.marian> Reply-To: Steven Hanley References: <20011031101700.A473@10.am> <000401c16204$55d57bd0$c901a8c0@flexsoft.com.au> <20011031120530.A702@10.am> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011031120530.A702@10.am> User-Agent: Some Random Email Client Organization: much sought in this hectic world Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 12:05:30PM +0000, mallum wrote: > ouch. I had feared this may have been the case :( > > Do PCI->Cardbus adptors work ok ? I remember once hearing these would > only work with linux if your motherboard had no ISA slots ...? most dont, however the DWL-500 which is available for sale with a DWL-650 card all in one box works perfectly in linux and is pci, also buying the DWL-500, DWL-650 combination is a lot cheaper than buying a seperate card and bridge as the bridges always cost a lot more than the difrference in price between the DWL-500 package and the DWL-650 package. See You Steve -- sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh Look Up In The Sky Is it a bird? No Is it a plane No Is it a small blue banana? Yes From dgibson@samba.org Wed Oct 31 16:06:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id D271F4658; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:06:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 11:05:37 +1100 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Prism2, DWL-650 and ISA adaptor problems Message-ID: <20011101110537.C26391@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <20011031145437.57843.qmail@web11301.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011031145437.57843.qmail@web11301.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 06:54:37AM -0800, Alex Deucher wrote: > The DWL-650 is NOT a cardbus card. It's regular > pcmcia. I have one and it works fine in my libretto > 50ct with 16-bit ISA PCIC. Cardbus cards have a gold > strip above the connector. Yes. In fact, I'm not aware of *any* CardBus wireless cards. -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From ganglu@usc.edu Wed Oct 31 18:04:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from usc.edu (usc.edu [128.125.253.136]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEA324111 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 18:04:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from aludra.usc.edu (ganglu@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.184]) by usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP id SAA26408 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 18:05:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ganglu@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1/usc) with ESMTP id fA125a327075 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 18:05:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 18:05:36 -0800 (PST) From: ganglu To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Switch from Managed and Ad-hoc mode Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, folks, I need switch my wavelan card from Managed and Ad-hoc mode in my experiment to save power in an ipaq. It is like: do{ switch to Ad-hoc mode; transmite packets to server; read packets from server; switch to Managed mode; sleep(1); }while(1); The problem is that very often the client got blocked in reading packets: it has to wait a long time but it can received the packets correctly. However If I ping the server in the same time, the client correctly received the packets from server very quickly. That is really confusing. I used the ioctl (copied from the source code of iwconfig) to switch the operation mode of Orinoco silver PC card. Its driver is wvlan_cs. Is it possible the delay of the switch causing the problem? But why if I ping the server at the same time, it works pretty good? thanks, gang lu From jalovick@doof.org Wed Oct 31 21:26:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from gerald.doof.org (gateway.doof.org [203.29.177.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C1045D7 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 21:26:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from gerald.doof.org (IDENT:jalovick@gerald.doof.org [203.0.179.1]) by gerald.doof.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16569 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:55:57 +1030 Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:55:57 +1030 (CST) From: Jamie Lovick To: wireless@samba.org Subject: Hello Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I just wanted to check that the list was still alive, I haven't seen a post for a while. Regards Jamie -- Jamie Lovick <-> IT Consultant <-> +614 1479 1681 Hobby : Doof.org -> jalovick@doof.org Director: Drastic Solutions Pty Ltd -> jalovick@drasticsolutions.com.au From tlangdon@atctraining.com.au Wed Oct 31 21:28:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au (gw2.atctraining.com.au [210.8.174.5]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6431B44F2 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 21:28:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 16:31:05 +1100 Message-ID: From: Tony Langdon To: 'Jamie Lovick' , wireless@samba.org Subject: RE: Hello Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 16:31:04 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Your listping has been noted. ;-) > > Hi, > > I just wanted to check that the list was still alive, I haven't seen a > post for a while. From jalovick@doof.org Wed Oct 31 21:32:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from gerald.doof.org (gateway.doof.org [203.29.177.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 818BC4E99 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 21:32:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from gerald.doof.org (IDENT:jalovick@gerald.doof.org [203.0.179.1]) by gerald.doof.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16784; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 16:01:29 +1030 Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 16:01:29 +1030 (CST) From: Jamie Lovick To: Tony Langdon Cc: wireless@samba.org Subject: RE: Hello In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Well that's good to hear. Was I the only one recently who get an Email asking about the local wireless networks, and a few other things from Tony Chan, Editor of Wireless Asia Magazine ? Regards Jamie On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Tony Langdon wrote: > Your listping has been noted. ;-) > > > > Hi, > > > > I just wanted to check that the list was still alive, I haven't seen a > > post for a while. > -- Jamie Lovick <-> IT Consultant <-> +614 1479 1681 Hobby : Doof.org -> jalovick@doof.org Director: Drastic Solutions Pty Ltd -> jalovick@drasticsolutions.com.au From tlangdon@atctraining.com.au Wed Oct 31 21:33:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au (gw2.atctraining.com.au [210.8.174.5]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A581B45D7 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 21:33:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 16:36:21 +1100 Message-ID: From: Tony Langdon To: 'Jamie Lovick' , Tony Langdon Cc: wireless@samba.org Subject: RE: Hello Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 16:36:19 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Well that's good to hear. > > Was I the only one recently who get an Email asking about the local > wireless networks, and a few other things from Tony Chan, Editor of > Wireless Asia Magazine ? Well, I don't recall seeing that email, so you might be. FYI, the Melbourne list has been very active of late, so wonder if a lot of the activity has moved there. :) From jalovick@doof.org Wed Oct 31 21:38:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from gerald.doof.org (gateway.doof.org [203.29.177.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11694F67 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 21:38:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from gerald.doof.org (IDENT:jalovick@gerald.doof.org [203.0.179.1]) by gerald.doof.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16996; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 16:07:39 +1030 Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 16:07:39 +1030 (CST) From: Jamie Lovick To: Tony Langdon Cc: wireless@samba.org Subject: RE: Hello In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Tony Langdon wrote: > > > Well that's good to hear. > > > > Was I the only one recently who get an Email asking about the local > > wireless networks, and a few other things from Tony Chan, Editor of > > Wireless Asia Magazine ? > > Well, I don't recall seeing that email, so you might be. FYI, the > Melbourne list has been very active of late, so wonder if a lot of the > activity has moved there. :) Possibly. How has the Melbourne network been going ? Some of the questions Tony raised about the state of non-commercial wireless networks in Australia has lead me to wonder if the wireless community will legitimise a little more and form an association such as APANA became all of those years ago (hey, it got me on the net for a while). If there was such an association, would it be big enough and ugly enough to hold a carriers licence. Curious questions. Regards Jamie -- Jamie Lovick <-> IT Consultant <-> +614 1479 1681 Hobby : Doof.org -> jalovick@doof.org Director: Drastic Solutions Pty Ltd -> jalovick@drasticsolutions.com.au From tlang@freeway.apana.org.au Thu Nov 1 00:46:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from enigma.apana.org.au (c2938.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au [203.164.134.27]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5447B5039 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 00:45:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from freeway.apana.org.au (freeway.apana.org.au [202.12.87.170]) by enigma.apana.org.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA17508 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 19:47:00 +1100 From: tlang@freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 01 Nov 01 19:37:00 +1000 Subject: RE: Hello Message-ID: <517_0111011946@freeway.apana.org.au> References: Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: wireless@lists.samba.org X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello Jamie! 01 Nov 01 16:07, you wrote to Tony Langdon: JL> Possibly. How has the Melbourne network been going ? I think there's progress. A few small clusters of nodes are now able to link up, but I feel two things are needed, before it really gets rolling. Firstly, an increase by 100% in the number of nodes, to achieve critical mass, where the average link length drops to a couple of km, and secondly, significant reduction in the cost of the gear. JL> Some of the questions Tony raised about the state of JL> non-commercial wireless networks in Australia has lead me to wonder if JL> the wireless community will legitimise a little more and form an JL> association such as APANA became all of those years ago (hey, it got JL> me on the net for a while). JL> JL> If there was such an association, would it be big enough and ugly JL> enough to hold a carriers licence. That may yet happen, who knows? Tony, VK3JED .. rust. Needs tune up. -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang@freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. From robertl@home.com Thu Nov 1 10:24:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.84]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 376574190 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 10:24:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from home.com ([24.252.223.189]) by femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011101182501.WXPL6005.femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com>; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 10:25:01 -0800 Received: (from robertl@localhost) by home.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) id fA1IPjD03904; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 12:25:45 -0600 Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 12:25:45 -0600 From: Robert Lipe To: wireless@lists.samba.org Cc: jt@hpl.hp.com Subject: re: intel 2011 vs. orinoco on Linux Message-ID: <20011101122545.A3892@rjlinux.nj.caldera.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: [ Please maintain cc to robertlipe@usa.net on replies since I'm not on the list. Thanx. ] >> eth0 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"" Nickname:"rjlaptop" >> Mode:Managed Frequency:2.412GHz Access Point: 00:00:00:00:00:00 >> Bit Rate:1Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity:0/3 >> Retry limit:16 RTS thr:off Fragment thr=0 B >> Encryption key:off >> Power Management:off >> Link Quality:0/92 Signal level:134/153 Noise level:134/153 >> Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 > Maybe setting an ESSID would help. Please try : > > iwconfig eth0 essid "xxxxx" > > iwpriv eth0 force_reset > And show us what iwconfig says after that. I had tinkered quite a bit with the ESSID. I optimized that out of my query and that was unwise. Sorry. After running the commands above, I see no substantial difference. EEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"linksys" Nickname:"rjlaptop" Mode:Managed Frequency:2.412GHz Access Point: 00:00:00:00:00:00 Bit Rate:11Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity:0/3 Retry limit:16 RTS thr:off Fragment thr=0 B Encryption key:off Power Management:off Link Quality:0/92 Signal level:134/153 Noise level:134/153 Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 Additionally, the card never gets out of "slow blinking green led" mode and into "led indicates wan activity" mode. Encryption is disabled on the router as well. > Please also give us the content of /proc/interrupts to see if > irqs are properly delivered. (robertl) rjlaptop:/home/robertl $ cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 0: 59820 XT-PIC timer 1: 1764 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 3: 22 XT-PIC orinoco_cs 5: 6753 XT-PIC Maestro3(i) 8: 1 XT-PIC rtc 10: 0 XT-PIC usb-uhci 11: 6 XT-PIC O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6812 Cardbus Controller 12: 1176 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse 14: 25232 XT-PIC ide0 15: 2 XT-PIC ide1 NMI: 0 ERR: 0 Interrupts are delivered, but they're coming in pretty slowly. I tried just setting an IP address (ifconfig eth0 address up) and doing a ping in the hopes that I could see the transmits on the wire of the LAN. No dice. So it really looks like the card can't see the access point. Is there anything additional I can check? Thanx for the help. RJL From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Thu Nov 1 10:36:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 232E74593 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 10:35:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id KAA29264; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 10:36:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id KAA08458; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 10:36:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15zMhm-0008VZ-00; Thu, 01 Nov 2001 10:36:42 -0800 Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 10:36:42 -0800 To: Robert Lipe Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: intel 2011 vs. orinoco on Linux Message-ID: <20011101103642.A32689@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com References: <20011101122545.A3892@rjlinux.nj.caldera.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011101122545.A3892@rjlinux.nj.caldera.com>; from robertlipe@usa.net on Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 12:25:45PM -0600 Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 12:25:45PM -0600, Robert Lipe wrote: > [ Please maintain cc to robertlipe@usa.net on replies since I'm not on > the list. Thanx. ] > > I had tinkered quite a bit with the ESSID. I optimized that out of my > query and that was unwise. Sorry. > > After running the commands above, I see no substantial difference. > > EEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"linksys" Nickname:"rjlaptop" > Mode:Managed Frequency:2.412GHz Access Point: 00:00:00:00:00:00 > Bit Rate:11Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity:0/3 > Retry limit:16 RTS thr:off Fragment thr=0 B > Encryption key:off > Power Management:off > Link Quality:0/92 Signal level:134/153 Noise level:134/153 > Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 The driver did its job and set the ESSID in the card. Things seems to be sane, except that for some reason the card refuse to hook up to the Access Point (i.e. Access Point address remains 0). Hooking to the AP is quite low level (i.e. not involving the driver), so I suspect firmware issues. Did it ever work under Windows ? > Additionally, the card never gets out of "slow blinking green led" mode > and into "led indicates wan activity" mode. Encryption is disabled on > the router as well. > > > Please also give us the content of /proc/interrupts to see if > > irqs are properly delivered. > > (robertl) rjlaptop:/home/robertl > $ cat /proc/interrupts > CPU0 > 0: 59820 XT-PIC timer > 1: 1764 XT-PIC keyboard > 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade > 3: 22 XT-PIC orinoco_cs > 5: 6753 XT-PIC Maestro3(i) > 8: 1 XT-PIC rtc > 10: 0 XT-PIC usb-uhci > 11: 6 XT-PIC O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6812 Cardbus Controller > 12: 1176 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse > 14: 25232 XT-PIC ide0 > 15: 2 XT-PIC ide1 > NMI: 0 > ERR: 0 > > Interrupts are delivered, but they're coming in pretty slowly. Good. No problem there. > I tried just setting an IP address (ifconfig eth0 address up) and doing > a ping in the hopes that I could see the transmits on the wire of the LAN. > No dice. So it really looks like the card can't see the access point. > Is there anything additional I can check? > > > Thanx for the help. > RJL If I remember well, you are using firmware 2.20. With this firmware, Power Management doesn't work and should be disabled by the driver. You can check that, a "iwconfig eth0 power on" should *not* enable Power Management. Second thing to look at is "short preamble". You may play with the iwpriv command to enable/disable it. My 2.20 firware works perfectly with my Orinoco AP, so I would expect a firmware bug in your AP. Regards, Jean From robertl@caldera.com Thu Nov 1 11:47:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from rjlcascade.vpn.caldera.com (ci27748-a.wllmsn1.tn.home.com [24.252.223.189]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 366D74154 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 11:47:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by rjlcascade.vpn.caldera.com (8.9.3/SCO5) id NAA08688; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 13:48:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 13:48:46 -0600 From: Robert Lipe To: jt@hpl.hp.com Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: intel 2011 vs. orinoco on Linux Message-ID: <20011101134846.L8518@rjlhome.caldera.com> References: <20011101122545.A3892@rjlinux.nj.caldera.com> <20011101103642.A32689@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20011101103642.A32689@bougret.hpl.hp.com>; from jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com on Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 10:36:42AM -0800 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Jean Tourrilhes wrote: > On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 12:25:45PM -0600, Robert Lipe wrote: > > [ Please maintain cc to robertlipe@usa.net on replies since I'm not on > > the list. Thanx. ] > > > > I had tinkered quite a bit with the ESSID. I optimized that out of my > > query and that was unwise. Sorry. > > > > After running the commands above, I see no substantial difference. > > > > EEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"linksys" Nickname:"rjlaptop" > > Mode:Managed Frequency:2.412GHz Access Point: 00:00:00:00:00:00 > > Bit Rate:11Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity:0/3 > > Retry limit:16 RTS thr:off Fragment thr=0 B > > Encryption key:off > > Power Management:off > > Link Quality:0/92 Signal level:134/153 Noise level:134/153 > > Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 > > The driver did its job and set the ESSID in the card. Things > seems to be sane, except that for some reason the card refuse to hook > up to the Access Point (i.e. Access Point address remains 0). Hooking > to the AP is quite low level (i.e. not involving the driver), so I > suspect firmware issues. > Did it ever work under Windows ? It works under Windows. It worked under RedHat 7.0 with the Spectrum24_cs driver. Is the channel selection automatic? (Like a cordless fone that hunts the "best" and locks on?) My linksys is set for channel "6" and my attempts to iwconfig eth0 channel 6 are met with SIOCSIWFREQ: Operation not supported I don't know the decoder ring to go from freqs to channel numbers in case I need to manually intervene there. Is there a table somewhere where I can force them to match? > If I remember well, you are using firmware 2.20. With this Yes: "Looks like a Symbol firmware version [V2.20-01] (parsing to 22001) > firmware, Power Management doesn't work and should be disabled by the > driver. You can check that, a "iwconfig eth0 power on" should *not* > enable Power Management. Correct. The command is silently accepted but does not change subsequent output of iwconfig. > Second thing to look at is "short preamble". You may play with > the iwpriv command to enable/disable it. Neither 'iwpriv eth0 set_preamble 0' nor 'iwpriv eth0 set_preamble 1' force that WAP address to go non-zero. Is there anything that has to be done to kick it? Intervening iwpriv eth0 force_resets didn't seem to help. > My 2.20 firware works perfectly with my Orinoco AP, so I would > expect a firmware bug in your AP. Changing from long preamble to short preamble in the WAP changed nothing. The firmware on the card presumably is the same when I was running the other two OS combos. It's in flash and not dynamically squirted in by the driver, right? Thanx for your help. I'm still chasing. RJL From cisbjc@reason.levels.unisa.edu.au Thu Nov 1 15:09:22 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from reason.levels.unisa.edu.au (reason.levels.unisa.edu.au [130.220.33.11]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D54C40C5 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:09:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from reason.levels.unisa.edu.au (cis202068.levels.unisa.edu.au [130.220.37.202]) by reason.levels.unisa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16290 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 09:40:21 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <3BE1E438.52EA95C3@reason.levels.unisa.edu.au> Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 10:39:28 +1030 From: Benjamin Close X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Hello References: <517_0111011946@freeway.apana.org.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > JL> If there was such an association, would it be big enough and ugly > JL> enough to hold a carriers licence. Anyone know the cost of a carriers licence? -- 3D Research Associate +61 8 8302 3669 School of Computer and Information Science Room D1-07, Levels Campus University of South Australia Mawson Lakes Blvd. Benjamin.Close@cs.unisa.edu.au South Australia, 5095 From rowan@sensation.net.au Thu Nov 1 18:14:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (serial1-2-velvet-brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6DDB40C5 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 18:14:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15403 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 13:15:32 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 13:15:32 +1100 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: Hello In-Reply-To: <3BE1E438.52EA95C3@reason.levels.unisa.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, Benjamin Close wrote: > > JL> If there was such an association, would it be big enough and ugly > > JL> enough to hold a carriers licence. > > Anyone know the cost of a carriers licence? Approximately $10,000 per year. I think there's also a ~$3,500 application fee. There would also be extra costs meeting the legal requirements of running a public carrier. It would need to be a BIG association. :) Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe camrecord.com / camdiscover.com / Sensation Internet Services Melbourne, Australia From mallum@10.am Sat Nov 3 05:14:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from localhost (pc-62-30-165-35-hw.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.165.35]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D4340C6 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 05:14:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mallum by localhost with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15zzbY-0000Bd-00; Sat, 03 Nov 2001 12:08:52 +0000 Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 12:08:46 +0000 From: mallum To: wireless@lists.samba.org Cc: jkm@ssh.com Subject: Some success with DWL-650 and prism2 drivers Message-ID: <20011103120846.A462@10.am> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi there; I've been battling to get the prism2 drivers working with a dlink DWL-650 in an ISA adaptor with 2.4.12 and pcmcia-cs. In desperation I brutally hacked the prism2.c code to only let the DWL-650 have 3.3v , ignoring its broken? firmware requests for 5v. This fortunately got the card recognised and driver loaded ok, and I was able to control the interface via iwconfig. The 'client' cards im using are orinoco's , using orinoco_cs . I've had these communicating fine with the DWL-650 in adhoc mode ( using both prism2 and orinoco drivers with the DWL-650 ). However when I run the DWL-650 in 'Master' mode ( with prism2 drivers ) , the clients 'pick up' the Master ( essid name and MAC address ) but any attemp to ping from or to the Master results in; wlan0: dropped recieved packet from no ToDS flag ( type=0x02, subtype = 0x00 ) errors on the Master and I cant get any TCP connectivity. What does this mean ? Is there a fix ? Many thanks; -- Matthew Allum From mail@buermeyer.de Sat Nov 3 05:51:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailout00.sul.t-online.de (mailout00.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.16]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B6147CA for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 05:51:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from fwd01.sul.t-online.de by mailout00.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1601DO-0003S9-04; Sat, 03 Nov 2001 14:52:02 +0100 Received: from bubu.rauscher (054025196-0001@[62.224.14.18]) by fmrl01.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1601DH-0uuqcyC; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 14:51:55 +0100 Received: from buermeyer.de ([192.168.0.6]) by bubu.rauscher (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id fA3Dpo402186 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 14:51:50 +0100 Message-ID: <3BE3F66E.703FF937@buermeyer.de> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 14:51:42 +0100 From: Ulf Buermeyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: orinoco_plx 0.08a - no IRQs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 054025196-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Dear list-subscribers, i'm using orinoco-0.08a on a Netgear NA301/401, thus with the orinoco_plx module. The latter finally found the NA301 PCI adaptor after some nights of typing - I "just" had to compile it with the PCI id from lspci and cat /proc/pci at the end of orinoco_plx.c. Now all the initialisation seems to work fine: Nov 3 12:00:07 bubu kernel: hermes.c: 3 Oct 2001 David Gibson Nov 3 12:00:30 bubu kernel: orinoco.c 0.08a (David Gibson and others Nov 3 12:04:42 bubu kernel: PCI: Assigned IRQ 9 for device 00:0c.0 Nov 3 12:04:42 bubu kernel: Detected Orinoco/Prism2 PCI device at 00:0c.0, mem:0xc58f1000, irq:9, i Nov 3 12:04:42 bubu kernel: eth1: Station identity 001f:0003:0000:0008 Nov 3 12:04:42 bubu kernel: eth1: Looks like an Intersil firmware version 0.08 Nov 3 12:04:42 bubu kernel: eth1: Ad-hoc demo mode supported. Nov 3 12:04:42 bubu kernel: eth1: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported. Nov 3 12:04:42 bubu kernel: eth1: WEP supported, "128"-bit key. Nov 3 12:04:42 bubu kernel: eth1: MAC address 00:30:AB:0B:83:BE Nov 3 12:04:42 bubu kernel: eth1: Station name "Prism I" Nov 3 12:04:42 bubu kernel: eth1: ready # iwconfig eth1 (after some manual initialisation) eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"rauscher" Nickname:"rauscher" Mode:Ad-Hoc Frequency:2.422GHz Cell: 00:00:00:00:00:00 Bit Rate:2Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity:1/3 Retry min limit:8 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Encryption key:off Power Management:off Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 # ifconfig eth1 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:30:AB:0B:83:BE inet addr:192.168.1.1 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::230:abff:fe0b:83be/10 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:74 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:15079 (14.7 Kb) # ping 192.168.1.1 PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) from 192.168.1.1 : 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=7.168 msec 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=300 usec 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=255 time=296 usec 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=255 time=294 usec 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=255 time=298 usec So far - so fine, but what didn't work is setting up a communication frequency: # iwconfig eth1 channel 2 seems to work, but there is no change in the *output* from iwconfig. No communication is possible over the air, no frames are received: # cat /proc/net/wireless Inter-| sta-| Quality | Discarded packets face | tus | link level noise | nwid crypt misc eth1: 0000 0 0 0 0 0 0 IRQ statistics are discouraging: # cat /proc/interrupts 9: 0 XT-PIC eth1 thus a big fat zero. Syslog shows how the driver is suffering: Nov 3 13:16:30 bubu kernel: eth1: Error -110 setting multicast list. Nov 3 13:16:30 bubu last message repeated 3 times Nov 3 13:16:32 bubu kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out Nov 3 13:16:32 bubu kernel: eth1: Tx timeout! Resetting card. Nov 3 13:16:32 bubu kernel: eth1: Error -110 writing packet header to BAP<3>eth1:Error -110 writing packet header to BAP Nov 3 13:16:34 bubu kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out Nov 3 13:16:34 bubu kernel: eth1: Tx timeout! Resetting card. Nov 3 13:16:36 bubu kernel: eth1: Error -110 writing packet header to BAP Nov 3 13:16:36 bubu last message repeated 4 times Nov 3 13:16:37 bubu kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out Nov 3 13:16:37 bubu kernel: eth1: Tx timeout! Resetting card. Nov 3 13:16:40 bubu kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out Nov 3 13:16:40 bubu kernel: eth1: Tx timeout! Resetting card. and so on. It seems to me like there is a IRQ problem - but how can I get IRQs to the driver? PCI IRQ assignment during boot is as follows: # dmesg | grep PCI PCI: Assigned IRQ 9 for device 00:0c.0 I'd greatly appreciate any ideas ! THNX in advance, Ulf. P.S. using the linux-wlan-ng driver symptoms are the same - all seems to work but no IRQs and no communication :-/ From kleptog@svana.org Sat Nov 3 19:09:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D5E46DB for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 19:09:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 160Dnd-0003p0-00; Sun, 04 Nov 2001 14:18:17 +1100 Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 14:18:17 +1100 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: Ulf Buermeyer Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: orinoco_plx 0.08a - no IRQs Message-ID: <20011104141817.B14632@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout References: <3BE3F66E.703FF937@buermeyer.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3BE3F66E.703FF937@buermeyer.de>; from mail@buermeyer.de on Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 02:51:42PM +0100 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 02:51:42PM +0100, Ulf Buermeyer wrote: > > Dear list-subscribers, > > i'm using orinoco-0.08a on a Netgear NA301/401, thus with the > orinoco_plx module. The latter finally found the NA301 PCI adaptor after > some nights of typing - I "just" had to compile it with the PCI id from > lspci and cat /proc/pci at the end of orinoco_plx.c. Now all the > initialisation seems to work fine: I have the same problem, no irqs. There's been some progress made recently (by David Gibson) but it's not going yet. Unforutnatly I left my wireless card in Canberra so I havn't been able to do anything on it recently. -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Magnetism, electricity and motion are like a three-for-two special offer: > if you have two of them, the third one comes free. From jas@pcguru.com.au Sat Nov 3 22:43:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from swami.pcguru.com.au (swami.pcguru.com.au [203.59.228.98]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E9D49BD for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 22:43:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from pcguru.com.au (IDENT:s3K4Id+Ev5caxIRWAGs1yqwZwqbPqcJ2@swami.pcguru.com.au [192.168.0.2]) by swami.pcguru.com.au (8.11.6/8.11.6/dsb-1.1) with SMTP id fA46iNq08933; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 14:44:44 +0800 Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 14:44:23 +0800 From: Jason Jordan To: wireless@lists.samba.org, melbwireless@melbwireless.dyndns.org Subject: Perth Wireless Networking Message-Id: <20011104144423.0ca851b7.jas@pcguru.com.au> Organization: Ray Martin has odd hair. I suspect Aliens are somehow involved. X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.4claws16 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-Face: )]tS!&`e.~o!,%E7v0,FVAfelGLC=^Q=m,2zK@>_6Fh1h"eQz~~}Xt,@H(Kw|_"UmH#SZ4O?6d8\EDfl?k=j4`*;F%Zt(9YT X-message-flag: Fatal Error. Please reboot your system. X-Todays-Stupid-InJoke: All Your Base Are Belong To Us X-Pre-Empt-Wife-Yes-Dear: Put the Cheese Away Jason Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Folks, I'm posting this in both the melbwireless & samba lists to see if we can round up any Perth FreeNetters who may not know of the efforts currently going on over here to get all the disparate groups together. For now, I'm hoping http://www.e3.com.au can provide a central location for us to start co-ordinating efforts. So far we've liaised with leeming.net & innaloo.net. With the combined experience and resources of these groups - and with the contacts some of them have - we're hoping to start making things happen in a big way. Please feel free to drop in a take a look around. We're more than happy to take any advice, links, story ideas or places to get cheap gear. I'm also very interested in finding out more about cheap ways to get antennas safely & reliably mounted up high! -- cheers, jas ... something witty - and in Latin. From barry@grussling.com Sat Nov 3 23:19:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from pegasus.gohighspeed.com (pegasus.gohighspeed.com [64.35.138.21]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998F04258 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 23:19:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from grussling.com (64-35-132-51.gohighspeed.com [64.35.132.51]) by pegasus.gohighspeed.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 814283A7C5 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 23:19:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3BE4EBFA.CBF7FF7E@grussling.com> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 23:19:22 -0800 From: Barry Grussling X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "wireless@lists.samba.org" Subject: Good Antenna for 16 miles Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Howdy, I have a house located about 16 (crow) miles from the location where I work. My house is on a hill with a line of site view of the wireless access points at my work. I acquired a parabolic wire mesh antenna for my orinoco silver card. I can establish a connection, but not by much. It runs about 6-7 SNR. I was curious if anyone has found a way to get an extra few electrons out of the system. Maybe an amplifier? I can get about 90% of packets through at 1 MB, but it is touchy to say the least. Any range extension thoughts? O yea, the Antenna is 24 db gain. Thanks a bunch, Barry From mehmety@optushome.com.au Sun Nov 4 02:58:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail016.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail016.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.176]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C23A44A9 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 02:58:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (c1554.farfl1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [203.164.57.97]) by mail016.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fA4AxZ210738 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 21:59:35 +1100 Message-Id: <200111041059.fA4AxZ210738@mail016.syd.optusnet.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: Mehmet To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: !fun setting up wireless at home Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 22:58:00 +1100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I'm trying to set up wireless networking at home but am lost.... I have a Toshiba 4600 notebook with a wireless card (prism2 type I think), I went and got a d-link DWL-500 pci-pcmcia card with DWL-650 pcmcia card. Sytem details are: Notebook has Mandrake 8.1 with kernel 2.4.13, pcmcia-cs-3.1.29. The card is being detected as wvlan_cs, no errors are reported (tried the orinoco_cs driver too) comes up as eth1 (? not wlan0 ?). iwconfig gives: eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"home" Nickname:"mehmet" Mode:Ad-Hoc Frequency:2.422GHz Cell: 02:02:2D:23:91:FE Bit Rate:2Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity:1/3 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Encryption key:off Power Management:off Link Quality:0/92 Signal level:-102 dBm Noise level:-102 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 The pc has RH 7.2, kernel 2.4.7, using kernel-pcmcia-cs-3.1.27 The wvlan_cs module gave errors but orinoco_cs loads with no errors iwconfig gives: eth2 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"home" Nickname: "box" Mode:Ad-Hoc Frequency:2.442GHz Cell: 00:00:00:00:00:00 Bit Rate:2Mb/s Tx-Power=15dBm Sensitivity:1/3 Retry min limit:8 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Power Management:off Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 ofcourse, it don't work. I used ifconfig to set up the network details, also put the details in /etc/pcmcia/network.opts just in case.... each can ping itself but can't see each other. What do I need to do to get this to work? -oh yes, using yenta-socket on both. Regards, Mehmet From ulf.buermeyer@iprserv.jura.uni-leipzig.de Sun Nov 4 10:32:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from iprserv.jura.uni-leipzig.de (iprserv.jura.uni-leipzig.de [139.18.126.92]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C724B00 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 10:31:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from iprserv.jura.uni-leipzig.de ([139.18.126.77]) by iprserv.jura.uni-leipzig.de (8.10.2/8.10.2/SuSE Linux 8.10.0-0.3) with ESMTP id fA4IWap15995; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 19:32:36 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: iprserv.jura.uni-leipzig.de: Host [139.18.126.77] claimed to be iprserv.jura.uni-leipzig.de Message-ID: <3BE589C3.1DD7DA80@iprserv.jura.uni-leipzig.de> Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 19:32:35 +0100 From: Ulf Buermeyer Organization: University of Leipzig, DE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martijn van Oosterhout Cc: Orinoco List Subject: Re: orinoco_plx 0.08a - no IRQs References: <3BE3F66E.703FF937@buermeyer.de> <20011104141817.B14632@svana.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > > i'm using orinoco-0.08a on a Netgear NA301/401, thus with the > > orinoco_plx module. The latter finally found the NA301 PCI adaptor after > > some nights of typing - I "just" had to compile it with the PCI id from > > lspci and cat /proc/pci at the end of orinoco_plx.c. Now all the > > initialisation seems to work fine: > > I have the same problem, no irqs. There's been some progress made recently > (by David Gibson) but it's not going yet. Unforutnatly I left my wireless > card in Canberra so I havn't been able to do anything on it recently. searching the Netgear driver CD I found a utility (NA301 subdir) that is provided for refreshing the NA301 eeprom when "spurious iterrupts" occur. I've vo idea what spurious IRQs might be and it doesn't work on my card (timout error), but maybe this has to do with our problems? It's just a 1k COM executable, so it might be easy to analyse... Yours, Ulf. From chris@hascom.com.au Sun Nov 4 20:30:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (symphony-01.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.33]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AC6A84450 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 20:30:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5081 invoked by uid 666); 5 Nov 2001 03:36:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO inspiron) (203.59.205.142) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 5 Nov 2001 03:36:04 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Chris King" To: Subject: 90 deg antenna design needed Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:36:06 +0800 Message-ID: <000101c165ab$03f0f2e0$0a01a8c0@inspiron> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I am planning to put up a community access point as part of www.e3.com.au. What I need is a design for a 90 deg antenna. Has anyone seen a page with such a design? Failing that I have an idea detailed at www.iinet.net.au/~hascom/WaFreeNet/HillsHub.html and would be very grateful if anyone with any antenna design knowledge would care to comment on it. Thanks, Chris From hascom@iinet.net.au Sun Nov 4 21:04:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (symphony-01.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.33]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3408344DD for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 21:04:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 13859 invoked by uid 666); 5 Nov 2001 04:17:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO inspiron) (203.59.205.142) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 5 Nov 2001 04:17:32 -0000 From: Chris King To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: 90 deg antenna design needed Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 12:17:40 +0800 Reply-To: hascom@iinet.net.au Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I am planning to put up a community access point as part of = www.e3.com.au. What I need is a design for a 90 deg antenna. Has anyone = seen a page with such a design? Failing that I have an idea detailed at = www.iinet.net.au/~hascom/WaFreeNet/HillsHub.html and would be very = grateful if anyone with any antenna design knowledge would care to = comment on it. Thanks, Chris From mark@hinet.net.au Sun Nov 4 23:14:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from scanner.hinet.net.au (scanner.hinet.net.au [203.21.107.7]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3BCD44F0 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 23:14:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by scanner.hinet.net.au (8.12.0/8.12.0) id fA57FOJF021541 for wireless@samba.org; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 18:15:24 +1100 Received: from netspace.hinet.net.au (netspace.hinet.net.au [203.21.107.1]) by scanner.hinet.net.au (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id fA57FOa4021533 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 18:15:24 +1100 Received: from orpheus (scalpel.hinet.net.au [203.21.107.4]) by netspace.hinet.net.au (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id fA57FNZ25269 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 18:15:24 +1100 Message-ID: <002901c165c9$aa872520$e900000a@hinet.net.au> From: "Mark Waugh" To: Subject: Hello Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 18:15:35 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0026_01C16625.DD608D40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 - Hinet build 002 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C16625.DD608D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C16625.DD608D40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C16625.DD608D40-- From ChrisKing@perthmail.com Mon Nov 5 00:25:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (symphony-07.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.39]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E5C7C49A6 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 00:25:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 32384 invoked by uid 666); 5 Nov 2001 02:44:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO inspiron) (203.59.205.142) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 5 Nov 2001 02:44:04 -0000 From: Chris King To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: 90 deg antenna design needed Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 10:44:14 +0800 Reply-To: ChrisKing@perthmail.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I am planning to put up a community access point as part of = www.e3.com.au. What I need is a design for a 90 deg antenna. Has anyone = seen a page with such a design? Failing that I have an idea detailed at = www.iinet.net.au/~hascom/WaFreeNet/HillsHub.html and would be very = grateful if anyone with any antenna design knowledge would care to = comment on it. Thanks, Chris From xchen@superpass.com Mon Nov 5 07:29:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts16.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.4]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71244570 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 07:29:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from office ([65.92.36.216]) by tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20011105153028.FRHN11528.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@office>; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 10:30:28 -0500 Message-ID: <002301c1660e$fa52f300$d8245c41@office> From: "xchen" To: , References: <000101c165ab$03f0f2e0$0a01a8c0@inspiron> Subject: Re: 90 deg antenna design needed Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 10:31:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: We have a lot of 90 deg antennas and other antennas. Take a look here and you will be amazed by the products and the low cost price. http://www.superpass.com/price.html Best regards John SuperPass Tel:519-886-5186 http://www.superpass.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris King" To: Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 10:36 PM Subject: 90 deg antenna design needed > Hi, > > I am planning to put up a community access point as part of www.e3.com.au. > What I need is a design for a 90 deg antenna. Has anyone seen a page with > such a design? Failing that I have an idea detailed at > www.iinet.net.au/~hascom/WaFreeNet/HillsHub.html and would be very grateful > if anyone with any antenna design knowledge would care to comment on it. > > Thanks, > Chris > > From zacca@jazi.net Mon Nov 5 08:11:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from phoenix.jazi.net (isdn-rtr.jazi.net [202.72.147.4]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663414365 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 08:11:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from unimatrix1 (unknown [10.30.200.10]) by phoenix.jazi.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0B3BA4CE8 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 00:09:40 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: <001301c16614$90874dd0$0ac81e0a@unimatrix1> From: "Zac" To: References: <000101c165ab$03f0f2e0$0a01a8c0@inspiron> <002301c1660e$fa52f300$d8245c41@office> Subject: Re: 90 deg antenna design needed Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 00:11:44 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Wow. Now I'm getting spam on valid email lists too. *sigh* ----- Original Message ----- From: "xchen" To: ; Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 11:31 PM Subject: Re: 90 deg antenna design needed > We have a lot of 90 deg antennas and other antennas. Take a look here and > you will be amazed by the products and the low cost price. > > http://www.superpass.com/price.html > > Best regards > John > SuperPass > Tel:519-886-5186 > http://www.superpass.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris King" > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 10:36 PM > Subject: 90 deg antenna design needed > > > > Hi, > > > > I am planning to put up a community access point as part of www.e3.com.au. > > What I need is a design for a 90 deg antenna. Has anyone seen a page with > > such a design? Failing that I have an idea detailed at > > www.iinet.net.au/~hascom/WaFreeNet/HillsHub.html and would be very > grateful > > if anyone with any antenna design knowledge would care to comment on it. > > > > Thanks, > > Chris > > > > > From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Mon Nov 5 11:09:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 043044CC4 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:02:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id LAA13923 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:03:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id LAA03931 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:03:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 160p1t-0003Fe-00 for ; Mon, 05 Nov 2001 11:03:29 -0800 Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:03:29 -0800 To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re : !fun setting up wireless at home Message-ID: <20011105110329.C12454@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Mehmet wrote : [...] > Mode:Ad-Hoc Frequency:2.422GHz Cell: 02:02:2D:23:91:FE [...] > Mode:Ad-Hoc Frequency:2.442GHz Cell: 00:00:00:00:00:00 Mismatching ad-hoc modes. Please read the orinoco_cs release notes on my web page. Jean From chris@hascom.com.au Mon Nov 5 16:25:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (symphony-03.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.35]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 776A343FE for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 16:25:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 23480 invoked by uid 666); 6 Nov 2001 00:25:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO inspiron) (203.59.205.146) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 6 Nov 2001 00:25:44 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Chris King" To: Subject: RE: 90 deg antenna design needed Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 08:25:51 +0800 Message-ID: <000001c16659$9883edf0$0a01a8c0@inspiron> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001301c16614$90874dd0$0ac81e0a@unimatrix1> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Zac, don't be too harsh. It was relevant to a question I asked. BTW sorry for the repeat emails everyone. There was a confusing 7 hour latency on my emails yesterday for some reason. -Chris -----Original Message----- From: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org [mailto:wireless-admin@lists.samba.org]On Behalf Of Zac Sent: Tuesday, 6 November 2001 12:12 AM To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: 90 deg antenna design needed Wow. Now I'm getting spam on valid email lists too. *sigh* ----- Original Message ----- From: "xchen" To: ; Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 11:31 PM Subject: Re: 90 deg antenna design needed > We have a lot of 90 deg antennas and other antennas. Take a look here and > you will be amazed by the products and the low cost price. > > http://www.superpass.com/price.html > > Best regards > John > SuperPass > Tel:519-886-5186 > http://www.superpass.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris King" > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 10:36 PM > Subject: 90 deg antenna design needed > > > > Hi, > > > > I am planning to put up a community access point as part of www.e3.com.au. > > What I need is a design for a 90 deg antenna. Has anyone seen a page with > > such a design? Failing that I have an idea detailed at > > www.iinet.net.au/~hascom/WaFreeNet/HillsHub.html and would be very > grateful > > if anyone with any antenna design knowledge would care to comment on it. > > > > Thanks, > > Chris > > > > > From mallum@10.am Tue Nov 6 02:33:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from localhost (lan.ipc.co.uk [193.119.160.10]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5966946E1 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 02:33:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mallum by localhost with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 1613RX-00007a-00; Tue, 06 Nov 2001 10:26:55 +0000 Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 10:26:55 +0000 From: mallum To: jt@hpl.hp.com Cc: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: Re : Prism2, DWL-650 and ISA adaptor problems Message-ID: <20011106102655.A422@10.am> References: <20011031101825.B31697@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011031101825.B31697@bougret.hpl.hp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: on Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 10:18:25AM -0800, Jean Tourrilhes wrote: > > This is wrong. My DWL 650 is a 16 bit card and work perfectly > in a ISA-Pcmcia slot (except for the usual Intersil firmware bugs). > The problem is that the card has a buggy CIS and doesn't > advertise voltage properly. With orinoco_cs, you use the > "ignore_cis_vcc" trick as indicated in the release notes. > Cool, I tried this ( eventually giving up on the prism2 drivers ) and it worked kind of , though very eratically. The card seemed to 'die' after a random amount of time and /var/log/messages is filled with this randomness; Nov 5 08:18:52 localhost kernel: hermes @ 0x180: Card removed while issuing com mand. Nov 5 08:18:53 localhost last message repeated 10 times Nov 5 08:18:54 localhost kernel: o BAP Nov 5 08:18:54 localhost kernel: Error -16 writing packet header to BAP Nov 5 08:18:54 localhost kernel: hermes @ 0x180: Card removed while waiting for command completion. Nov 5 08:18:54 localhost kernel: er to BAP<3>eth1: Error -16 writing packet hea der to BAP ... lots more of this ... Also not Im _not_ removing the card and then truncated line is how it appears in my log file. Also I get the same errors weather in the ISA adaptor or my laptop. I was also getting TX Errors ( though they seem not to have appeared in the log ). The 'client' machines were using orinoco cards. Is this the Dlink's buggy firmware ? Should I just give up with this evil card ? Has anybody actually got a DWL-650 working reliably ? -- Matthew Allum From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Tue Nov 6 09:40:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F524B60 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:40:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id JAA21268; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:41:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id JAA15671; Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:41:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 161AE4-0005oY-00; Tue, 06 Nov 2001 09:41:28 -0800 Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:41:28 -0800 To: mallum Cc: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: Re : Prism2, DWL-650 and ISA adaptor problems Message-ID: <20011106094128.E22230@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com References: <20011031101825.B31697@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <20011106102655.A422@10.am> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011106102655.A422@10.am>; from breakfast@10.am on Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 10:26:55AM +0000 Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 10:26:55AM +0000, mallum wrote: > on Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 10:18:25AM -0800, Jean Tourrilhes wrote: > > > > This is wrong. My DWL 650 is a 16 bit card and work perfectly > > in a ISA-Pcmcia slot (except for the usual Intersil firmware bugs). > > The problem is that the card has a buggy CIS and doesn't > > advertise voltage properly. With orinoco_cs, you use the > > "ignore_cis_vcc" trick as indicated in the release notes. > > > > Cool, I tried this ( eventually giving up on the prism2 drivers ) and > it worked kind of , though very eratically. The card seemed to 'die' > after a random amount of time and /var/log/messages is filled with > this randomness; > > > > Nov 5 08:18:52 localhost kernel: hermes @ 0x180: Card removed while > issuing com > mand. > Nov 5 08:18:53 localhost last message repeated 10 times > Nov 5 08:18:54 localhost kernel: o BAP > Nov 5 08:18:54 localhost kernel: Error -16 writing packet header to > BAP > Nov 5 08:18:54 localhost kernel: hermes @ 0x180: Card removed while > waiting for > command completion. > Nov 5 08:18:54 localhost kernel: er to BAP<3>eth1: Error -16 writing > packet hea > der to BAP > > ... lots more of this ... > > > > Also not Im _not_ removing the card and then truncated line is how it > appears in my log file. Also I get the same errors weather in the ISA > adaptor or my laptop. I was also getting TX Errors ( though they seem > not to have appeared in the log ). The 'client' machines were using > orinoco cards. > > Is this the Dlink's buggy firmware ? Should I just give up with this > evil card ? Has anybody actually got a DWL-650 working reliably ? > > -- Matthew Allum That's weird. It doesn't look like something with the firmware. Could you try to force the card at another I/O address (using /etc/pcmcia/config.opts). Jean From milank@merck.cz Wed Nov 7 05:09:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from emailgate.merck.cz (gate.merck.cz [195.212.222.19]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92786410A for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 05:09:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.153] by emailgate.merck.cz (NTMail 4.01.0008/NY0876.00.39704ed5) with ESMTP id ofjfaaaa for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:12:43 +0000 Received: from merck.cz (kalinam.merck.cz [192.168.1.55]) by intranet.merck.cz (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23254 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:12:43 +0100 Message-ID: <3BE933C2.5040905@merck.cz> Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 14:14:42 +0100 From: Milan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.5) Gecko/20011011 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: DSSS without DS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi to all, does anyone know how to switch off the direct sequence on any pcmcia card running 802.11b DSSS. As far as I have heard, this is a neccessarry service function to be able to tune the card before it goes out of production. Thanks, Milan Kalina ok1xh@qsl.net From ganglu@usc.edu Wed Nov 7 14:42:29 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from usc.edu (usc.edu [128.125.253.136]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0201C4E84 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:42:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from aludra.usc.edu (aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.184]) by usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP id OAA24434 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:43:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ganglu@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1/usc) with ESMTP id fA7MhA915255 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:43:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:43:10 -0800 (PST) From: ganglu To: Subject: wvlan_cs driver Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I am using Lucent Orinoco card on linux. The driver is wvlan_cs. I am using PF_PACKET to access the data link. I have succesfully send and receive packets through the data link without LLC control. I was wondering if I can add an LLC header in my packets and let the wavelan provede a connection-oriented service at the datalink layer? thanks, ganglu From dgibson@samba.org Wed Nov 7 15:53:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id CBA2C45FA; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 15:53:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 10:47:01 +1100 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: wvlan_cs driver Message-ID: <20011108104701.G27549@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 02:43:10PM -0800, ganglu wrote: > Hi, > > I am using Lucent Orinoco card on linux. > The driver is wvlan_cs. I am using PF_PACKET > to access the data link. I have succesfully > send and receive packets through the data link without LLC control. > > I was wondering if I can add an LLC header in my packets and let > the wavelan provede a connection-oriented service at the datalink layer? Only if the protocol stack at the far end will understand LLC and implement the 802.2 connection oriented service. -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From mudstick@hotmail.com Thu Nov 8 16:22:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from hotmail.com (unknown [207.68.162.203]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5238B4121 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 16:22:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 16:22:38 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [66.32.47.85] Reply-To: "Dan Borntrager" From: "Dan Borntrager" To: Subject: Access point as repeater Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 19:20:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DF_01C1688A.75834FC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2001 00:22:38.0774 (UTC) FILETIME=[A3643560:01C168B4] Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00DF_01C1688A.75834FC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I have an interesting dilemna. There is a wireless network about 300 = yards from where I live and I can start to pick up the signal about 200 = yards from my house. There are relatively few obstructions, just trees, = and my apartment is on a high floor. I would like to pick up that = signal but also would like to remain wireless in my apartment, so = essentially I need a repeater or do you think I could grab the signal = with a small antenna attached to my orinoco pcmcia card? =20 Could someone comment on which would be more feasible, that or trying to = set up a wireless repeater. Also, I have a Dlink dw-1000 access point. I can send the dlink back still and grab another access point if you = know any that will work as repeaters. The dlink will only do so from a = wired connection from what I understand. I need something to pick up a = wireless connection and retransmit. =20 I've thought of several things. Obviously, I will need an antenna but = does anyone have any suggestions on how to bring in a wireless = connection and retransmit it or just boost it so I can get it from my = laptop while moving around my building? =20 I do have an old box around and thought maybe I could hook that thing up = to the antenna and then just hit that with the laptop card..=20 Any suggestions? I'm pretty new at this stuff so any help would be = greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dan ------=_NextPart_000_00DF_01C1688A.75834FC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
I have an interesting dilemna.  = There is a=20 wireless network about 300 yards from where I live and I can start to = pick up=20 the signal about 200 yards from my house.  There are relatively few = obstructions, just trees, and my apartment is on a high floor.  I = would=20 like to pick up that signal but also would like to remain wireless in my = apartment, so essentially I need a repeater or do you think I could grab = the=20 signal with a small antenna attached to my orinoco pcmcia = card?  =20
 
Could someone comment on which would be = more=20 feasible, that or trying to set up a wireless repeater.  Also, I = have a=20 Dlink dw-1000 access point.
 
I can send the dlink back still and = grab another=20 access point if you know any that will work as repeaters.  The = dlink will=20 only do so from a wired connection from what I understand.  I need=20 something to pick up a wireless connection and retransmit.  =
 
I've thought of several = things. Obviously, I=20 will need an antenna but does anyone have any suggestions on how to = bring in a=20 wireless connection and retransmit it or just boost it so I can get it = from my=20 laptop while moving around my building? 
 
I do have an old box around and thought = maybe I=20 could hook that thing up to the antenna and then just hit that with the = laptop=20 card..
 
Any suggestions?  I'm pretty new = at this stuff=20 so any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks,
Dan
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_00DF_01C1688A.75834FC0-- From Robert.Edwards@anu.edu.au Thu Nov 8 19:41:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from cs.anu.edu.au (cs.anu.edu.au [150.203.164.35]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 605734115 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 19:41:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from anu.edu.au (tux [150.203.160.12]) by cs.anu.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00434; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 14:41:32 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <3BEB508E.2101BFA9@anu.edu.au> Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 14:42:06 +1100 From: Bob Edwards Organization: Australian National University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Borntrager Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Access point as repeater References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: HI Dan, I have almost the same situation here (have had it running for 5 years now). In my case, I own the other end of the link as well, so my link is implemented in ad-hoc mode, then to wired LAN at home, then to an Apple Airport access point. The advantage of not using a repeater is greater bandwidth - a repeater can only transmit or receive at a time and so everything needs to be sent twice (once to the repeater, once from it). If you can stretch the budget, I would recommend setting up a node (old box with wireless card in it) with a good antennae in the part of your house nearest the other network, then use your D-Link access point (on a different frequency!!) within your house. This way, any wired hosts also get in on the act as well. Cheers, Bob Edwards. Dan Borntrager wrote: Hi, I have an interesting dilemna. There is a wireless network about 300 yards from where I live and I can start to pick up the signal about 200 yards from my house. There are relatively few obstructions, just trees, and my apartment is on a high floor. I would like to pick up that signal but also would like to remain wireless in my apartment, so essentially I need a repeater or do you think I could grab the signal with a small antenna attached to my orinoco pcmcia card? Could someone comment on which would be more feasible, that or trying to set up a wireless repeater. Also, I have a Dlink dw-1000 access point. I can send the dlink back still and grab another access point if you know any that will work as repeaters. The dlink will only do so from a wired connection from what I understand. I need something to pick up a wireless connection and retransmit. I've thought of several things. Obviously, I will need an antenna but does anyone have any suggestions on how to bring in a wireless connection and retransmit it or just boost it so I can get it from my laptop while moving around my building? I do have an old box around and thought maybe I could hook that thing up to the antenna and then just hit that with the laptop card.. Any suggestions? I'm pretty new at this stuff so any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dan From robertl@caldera.com Fri Nov 9 06:40:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from monsoon.nj.caldera.com (ci27748-a.wllmsn1.tn.home.com [24.252.223.189]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D4148A7 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 06:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by monsoon.nj.caldera.com (8.9.3/SCO5) id IAA19957 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 08:40:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 08:40:37 -0600 From: Robert Lipe To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: intel 2011 vs. orinoco on Linux Message-ID: <20011109084037.C19839@rjlhome.caldera.com> References: <20011101122545.A3892@rjlinux.nj.caldera.com> <20011101103642.A32689@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <20011101134846.L8518@rjlhome.caldera.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20011101134846.L8518@rjlhome.caldera.com>; from robertlipe@usa.net on Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 01:48:46PM -0600 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Robert Lipe wrote: > Jean Tourrilhes wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 12:25:45PM -0600, Robert Lipe wrote: > > > [ Please maintain cc to robertlipe@usa.net on replies since I'm not on > > > the list. Thanx. ] > > > > > > I had tinkered quite a bit with the ESSID. I optimized that out of my > > > query and that was unwise. Sorry. > > > > > > After running the commands above, I see no substantial difference. > > > > > > EEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"linksys" Nickname:"rjlaptop" > > > Mode:Managed Frequency:2.412GHz Access Point: 00:00:00:00:00:00 > > > Bit Rate:11Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity:0/3 > > > Retry limit:16 RTS thr:off Fragment thr=0 B > > > Encryption key:off > > > Power Management:off > > > Link Quality:0/92 Signal level:134/153 Noise level:134/153 > > > Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 > > > > The driver did its job and set the ESSID in the card. Things > > seems to be sane, except that for some reason the card refuse to hook > > up to the Access Point (i.e. Access Point address remains 0). Hooking > > to the AP is quite low level (i.e. not involving the driver), so I > > suspect firmware issues. > > Did it ever work under Windows ? > > It works under Windows. It worked under RedHat 7.0 with the > Spectrum24_cs driver. Just so there's a sense of closure on this, here's what I found. The key is that it *used to* work under windows. Since I only boot into Windows rarely, I didn't notice that it stopped working. In an amazing stroke of bad luck, it appears that the WAP component of my Linksys happened to break about the same time I upgraded my system from a 2.2 based kernel to a 2.4 based kernel. So when it didn't work, I got sucked into the rathole of Spectrum24t vs. Orinocco. The doc and web references hinted the Intel 2011 should work but never really called it out and the uncertainty of the whole naming thing just lead me to fixate on this "obviously" being a driver/configuration problem. Once I *re*tested it under windows, I exonerated the whole Spectrum24t vs. Orinocco debate and dragged the whole shooting match to a store that had a wireless network I could use for testing. It was then that I could determine that the WAP part of the router had croaked. That sure defeated my problem-solving skills. :-) Things now work satisfactorily. Many thanx go to those that helped. As an aside, are numbers shown on this line really a fraction? In the broken case, I was seeing numbers like this: Link Quality:0/92 Signal level:134/153 Noise level:134/153 This told me I was getting a signel that was 134/153'ths as good as it could be but a noise level that was 134/135'ths as bad as it could be. Now with a new router, I'm seeing link quality numbers that are pretty low even with the unit setting right next to it. All added up, this is making me think I don't understand what these numbers really are and the man pages for iwconfig didn't particularly enlighten me. RJL From al@zerotraffico.it Fri Nov 9 16:11:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from zerotraffico.it (unknown [213.140.8.168]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D49184B36 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 16:11:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by zerotraffico.it (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id fAA07rr09553 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 01:07:53 +0100 Subject: orinoco_cs problem with Symbol LA4111 From: Alberto Schiavon To: wireless@lists.samba.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/0.99.0 (Preview Release) Date: 10 Nov 2001 01:07:52 +0100 Message-Id: <1005350873.4259.0.camel@shub> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: HI! I have a Symbol LA4111 Spectrum24 pcmcia card that doesn't acknowledge the AP under linux, while working fine under windows. setup: Compaq presario 1800, Red hat 7.2, various tests: o with stock kernel RH7.2 (2.4.7 rh): the card is acknowledged but not configured /var/adm/messages says: Nov 10 00:29:38 shub kernel: orinoco_cs.c 0.06 (David Gibson and others) Nov 10 00:29:38 shub kernel: eth1: Firmware ID 1F vendor 0x2 (Generic Prism II) version 2.01 Nov 10 00:29:38 shub kernel: eth1: Ad-hoc demo mode supported. Nov 10 00:29:38 shub kernel: eth1: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported. Nov 10 00:29:38 shub kernel: eth1: WEP supported, 40-bit key. Nov 10 00:29:38 shub kernel: eth1: MAC address 00:A0:F8:30:4E:E7 Nov 10 00:29:38 shub kernel: eth1: Station name "Prism I" Nov 10 00:29:38 shub kernel: eth1: ready Nov 10 00:29:39 shub kernel: eth1: index 0x01: Vcc 5.0, irq 7, io 0x0100-0x0147 Nov 10 00:29:39 shub kernel: hermes @ 0x100: Frame allocation command failed (0x7F00). # iwconfig eth1 essid "xxx" -> no value accepted at all. o with kernel 2.4.13-0.5 (current rawhide): PCMCIA ack, green led slowly blinking /var/adm/messages says Nov 10 00:54:28 shub cardmgr[9387]: watching 1 sockets Nov 10 00:54:28 shub kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean. Nov 10 00:54:28 shub kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x378-0x37f 0x4d0-0x4d7 Nov 10 00:54:28 shub cardmgr[9387]: initializing socket 0 Nov 10 00:54:28 shub kernel: cs: memory probe 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff: clean. Nov 10 00:54:28 shub cardmgr[9387]: socket 0: LA4111 Spectrum24 Wireless LAN PC Card Nov 10 00:54:28 shub cardmgr[9387]: executing: 'modprobe hermes' Nov 10 00:54:28 shub cardmgr[9387]: executing: 'modprobe orinoco_cs' # dmesg hermes.c: 3 Oct 2001 David Gibson orinoco.c 0.08a (David Gibson and others) orinoco_cs.c 0.08a (David Gibson and others) eth1: Station identity 001f:0002:0002:0001 eth1: Looks like a Symbol firmware version [V2.20-02c] (parsing to 22002) eth1: Ad-hoc demo mode supported. eth1: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported. eth1: WEP supported, "128"-bit key. eth1: MAC address 00:A0:F8:30:4E:E7 eth1: Station name "Prism I" eth1: ready eth1: index 0x01: Vcc 5.0, irq 7, io 0x0100-0x0147 # cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 0: 143003 XT-PIC timer 1: 5211 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 5: 0 XT-PIC ESS Solo1 7: 14 XT-PIC orinoco_cs 8: 1 XT-PIC rtc 11: 12611 XT-PIC usb-uhci, eth0, Texas Instruments PCI1410 PC card Cardbus Controller 12: 84 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse 14: 59055 XT-PIC ide0 15: 0 XT-PIC ide1 NMI: 0 ERR: 0 # iwconfig eth1 essid 101 # iwconfig eth1 eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"101" Nickname:"shub" Mode:Managed Frequency:2.412GHz Access Point: 00:00:00:00:00:00 Bit Rate=11Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity:0/3 Retry limit:16 RTS thr:off Fragment thr=0 B Encryption key:off Power Management:off Link Quality:0/92 Signal level:134/153 Noise level:134/153 Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 # iwpriv eth1 force_reset # iwpriv eth1 set_preamble 1;iwpriv eth1 force_reset -> no difference # iwpriv eth1 set_preamble 0;iwpriv eth1 force_reset -> no difference i SWEAR that this bastard works under windows! I just flashed the AP firmware to install the very latest sw release but nothing changed. (in windows it worked before and after the upgrade) strange enough, the loudspeakers of the notebook buzz approximately every other second (very quietly) any ideas? please cc me, I am not subscribed to this list TIA ciao alberto From manoj@io.com Fri Nov 9 23:26:32 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from samosa.chappati.org (csb3058681-a.snbrn1.sfba.home.com [65.12.10.45]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B464B95 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 23:26:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by samosa.chappati.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 93BAD12715E; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 23:27:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 23:27:03 -0800 From: Manoj Kasichainula To: jt@hpl.hp.com, Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: mini-PCI support for orinoco_cs Message-ID: <20011110072703.GA1312@samosa.chappati.org> Mail-Followup-To: Manoj Kasichainula , jt@hpl.hp.com, Samba/Wavelan mailing list References: <20011026221432.B1785@samosa.nojie.com> <20011029132130.H20748@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011029132130.H20748@bougret.hpl.hp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: [Please continue to cc: me. Thanks] On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 01:21:30PM -0800, Jean Tourrilhes wrote: > On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 10:14:32PM -0700, Manoj Kasichainula wrote: [on the linux_wlan prism2_pci driver] > > Yeah, but it doesn't let me set any of the things I actually want to > > set. :) Still, I want to investigate it further. > > Please do ;-) I got linux_wlan working, but not with WEP, which I need at work. It also seemed finicky and refused to work at many points. So, I tried orinoco_pci again, and am having more luck with it this time, for whatever reason. The only things that have changed since then are (1) a somewhat later ac kernel, (2) I turned off CONFIG_PLX_HERMES, and (3) I attempted to upgrade the firmware of the mini-PCI card using a program from the IBM support site, but the upgrade seemed to fail. I still get the "Channel out of range" error: Nov 9 22:53:48 samosa kernel: eth1: Channel out of range (0)! but I'm under the impression that you can't set the channel in Managed mode anyway. And, I am still seeing BAP errors: Nov 9 22:53:48 samosa kernel: eth1: Error -110 writing packet header to BAP But, I can go online with the mini-pci card now (woohoo!). Here are some other problems I have, though: - the iwconfig output is kind of wacky: eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"spoon" Nickname:"Prism I" Mode:Managed Frequency:2.412GHz Access Point: 00:02:2D:0D:1E:AF Bit Rate:11Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity:1/3 Retry min limit:8 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Encryption key:off Power Management:off Link Quality:103/92 Signal level:-41 dBm Noise level:-144 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 The Link Quality is the strange part. The 103 (or thereabouts) is being relayed properly from /proc/net/wireless, which generates output like this: Inter-| sta-| Quality | Discarded packets | Missed face | tus | link level noise | nwid crypt frag retry misc | beacon eth1: 0000 104. 216. 112. 0 0 0 0 0 0 Also, when I set a WEP key, connectivity dies. I pasted the WEP key from the wireless.opts entry I normally use with my pcmcia card, so it should be accurate, and the key does show up in iwconfig output. When I shut the key off, the network comes back up. One more oddity is that when I try to use dhcpcd to get an address, I get in syslog: Nov 9 22:55:55 samosa dhcpcd[508]: infinite IP address lease time. Exiting This doesn't happen when I use my orinoco wireless PCMCIA card. Any ideas for these problems? Are there any other messages or output you'd like to see? Thanks for your help and this driver; it's not perfect yet, but it seems to be the best one for me right now. From al@zerotraffico.it Sat Nov 10 14:44:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from zerotraffico.it (unknown [213.140.8.167]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F9147A1 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 14:44:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by zerotraffico.it (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id fAAKtal01734 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2001 21:55:36 +0100 Subject: Re: orinoco_cs problem with Symbol LA4111 - FIXED From: Alberto Schiavon To: wireless@lists.samba.org In-Reply-To: <1005350873.4259.0.camel@shub> References: <1005350873.4259.0.camel@shub> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/0.99.0 (Preview Release) Date: 10 Nov 2001 21:55:36 +0100 Message-Id: <1005425736.1122.0.camel@shub> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sat, 2001-11-10 at 01:07, Alberto Schiavon wrote: > HI! > > I have a Symbol LA4111 Spectrum24 pcmcia card that doesn't acknowledge > the AP under linux, while working fine under windows. > > setup: Compaq presario 1800, Red hat 7.2, > [MSG TRIMMED] fixed with # iwconfig eth1 rate auto (for some strange reason it does not work without rate=auto) sorry for the wasted bandwidth ciao a. From telepath@iprimus.com.au Sun Nov 11 05:04:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from smtp01.iprimus.net.au (smtp01.iprimus.net.au [203.134.64.99]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B504AB1 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 05:04:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from kidon.iprimus.com.au ([211.26.49.4]) by smtp01.iprimus.net.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Mon, 12 Nov 2001 00:05:00 +1100 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011111014807.00a6ec38@pop.iprimus.com.au> X-Sender: telepath@pop.iprimus.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 03:02:56 +1030 To: wireless@lists.samba.org From: telepath@iprimus.com.au Subject: galaxy dish antenna? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2001 13:05:00.0897 (UTC) FILETIME=[78A5C510:01C16AB1] Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Good evening, I'm new to all of this so forgive any inaccuracies. I have a galaxy dish. The LNBF (Low Noise Block downconverter with integrated FeedHorn?) has the following printed on it: Ku-12.25 LNBF VOLTAGE CONTROLLED H/V SWITCHING INPUT 12 25-12 75 GHz OUTPUT 950-1450 MHz GAIN: 55 dB Min VDC: +12 to +22 NOISE: 1.1 dB Max It's ceramic, and looks something like this: ________________ |_______________| | | | | / \ /___\ |____| (blue cap) I know the LNBF converts the block of frequencies (12.25-12.75) into 950-1450MHz frequencies, but everything else I have no idea. I'm not much of an electronics/radio person, but would I be able to use this for wireless networking as an antenna? I know I'd have to modify it, but I have no idea how to go about it and if no one can help, I'll just make something else. Thank you From paleface@ioi.dk Sun Nov 11 14:54:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from beast.ioi.dk (ns.ioi.dk [62.243.244.250]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D792450D for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 14:52:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from paleface by beast.ioi.dk with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 1633TT-0000qX-00 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 23:53:11 +0100 Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 23:53:11 +0100 From: Jacob Gorm Hansen To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Problems with ibook, airport card, and netgear ME102 AP Message-ID: <20011111235311.D2968@ioi.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I recently bought a Netgear ME102 WAP, to use with my Ibook2 and Airport card. I previously used the card with other access points without problems, but the ME102 and I never get talking at all. First, I know the ME102 is not faulty because I returned the first one to the dealer because I thought it was and got a new one ;-) I'm running a 2.14-pre kernel from BenH with the airport, hermes and orinoco modules. When I boot I get the following message: eth1: Station identity 001f:0001:0004:0010 eth1: Looks like a Lucent/Agere firmware version 4.16 eth1: Ad-hoc demo mode supported. eth1: MAC address 00:30:65:13:9D:C4 eth1: Station name "HERMES I" eth1: Allowed channels mask: 0x00001fff eth1: ready airport: card registered for interface eth1 NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out eth1: Tx timeout! Resetting card. And iwconfig says eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"Wireless" Nickname:"paleface" Mode:Managed Frequency:2.422GHz Access Point: 44:44:44:44:44:44 Bit Rate=2Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity:1/3 Retry limit:4 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Power Management:off Link Quality:0/92 Signal level:134/153 Noise level:134/153 Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 I've disabled WEP at the AP via the USB utility. I can ping the AP just fine via normal ethernet. The ESSID for both AP and card is set to 'Wireless'. I can't modify the channel for the card when in managed mode, but I've tried most of them at the AP without getting any signal. Any ideas? (and is this the correct list to ask at all?) Thanks in advance, I'm totally lost Jacob From bje@air.net.au Sun Nov 11 14:58:28 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from mailhub.air.net.au (mailhub.air.net.au [203.52.201.202]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF6D04265 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 14:58:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by mailhub.air.net.au (Postfix, from userid 500) id 0CE70CB5AC; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 09:58:51 +1100 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.air.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B414C379C for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 09:58:51 +1100 (EST) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 09:58:50 +1100 (EST) From: Ben Elliston To: Subject: New O'Reilly book Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/wirelesscommnet/ From fad@fad.homeip.net Sun Nov 11 15:20:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from fad.homeip.net (mitax4-171.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.116.171]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209814A7E for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:09:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from astral [10.0.0.1] by fad.homeip.net [127.0.0.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.5.3.R) for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:04:45 +1100 Message-ID: <000c01c16b05$4138e220$0100a8c0@astral> From: "Dominic McWilliam" To: Subject: galaxy dish Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:04:45 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C16B61.749A17E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-MDRemoteIP: 10.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: fad@fad.homeip.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C16B61.749A17E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable have alook at some of the web pages out there, melbourne wirelesss has a site on how to hack the dishes. http://melbwireless.dyndns.org Anyone know where I could get one of these? -Dominic -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ FLASH! 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------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C16B61.749A17E0-- From rob@outbound-designs.com Sun Nov 11 15:52:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from smtp01.iprimus.net.au (smtp01.iprimus.net.au [203.134.64.99]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 997234403 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:51:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from cartman ([210.50.108.199]) by smtp01.iprimus.net.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:52:21 +1100 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 07:52:24 +0800 From: Rob Seaman X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) Personal Reply-To: Rob Seaman Organization: Outbound Designs - Professional Web Design & Hosting X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <16740325695.20011112075224@outbound-designs.com> To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: galaxy dish antenna? In-Reply-To: <20011111200822.E898B4BE0@lists.samba.org> References: <20011111200822.E898B4BE0@lists.samba.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2001 23:52:21.0549 (UTC) FILETIME=[E77AEDD0:01C16B0B] Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello Telepath, wrlso> I have a galaxy dish. The LNBF (Low Noise Block wrlso> downconverter with integrated FeedHorn?) has the wrlso> following printed on it: wrlso> Ku-12.25 LNBF wrlso> VOLTAGE CONTROLLED H/V SWITCHING wrlso> INPUT 12 25-12 75 GHz wrlso> OUTPUT 950-1450 MHz wrlso> GAIN: 55 dB Min wrlso> VDC: +12 to +22 wrlso> NOISE: 1.1 dB Max wrlso> It's ceramic, and looks something like this: wrlso> ________________ wrlso> |_______________| wrlso> | | wrlso> | | wrlso> / \ wrlso> /___\ wrlso> |____| (blue cap) wrlso> I know the LNBF converts the block of frequencies wrlso> (12.25-12.75) into 950-1450MHz frequencies, but wrlso> everything else I have no idea. wrlso> I'm not much of an electronics/radio person, but wrlso> would I be able to use this for wireless networking wrlso> as an antenna? wrlso> I know I'd have to modify it, but I have no idea how wrlso> to go about it and if no one can help, I'll just make wrlso> something else. What you have sounds like the satellite dish, not the microwave (MDS) dish. In short, it's no good for a simple conversion to wireless networking. Regards, Rob... From wattsg@laboratory.innaloo.net Sun Nov 11 16:59:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from laboratory.innaloo.net (hertha.innaloo.net [203.15.92.14]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D9044C7 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 16:59:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (wattsg@localhost) by laboratory.innaloo.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17114; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 08:59:19 +0800 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 08:59:19 +0800 (WST) From: Geoff Watts To: Rob Seaman Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: galaxy dish antenna? In-Reply-To: <16740325695.20011112075224@outbound-designs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > What you have sounds like the satellite dish, not the microwave (MDS) > dish. In short, it's no good for a simple conversion to wireless > networking. Au contraire http://www.wwc.edu/~frohro/Airport/Primestar/Primestar.html They make -fantastic- 2.4ghz antennas. I'd modify this guy's design a bit to make the feedhorn a little less .. exposed. Anyone got an old 90cm satellite dish they want to donate to me in WA? :) cheers, geoff From giesler@ira.uka.de Mon Nov 12 01:44:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from iraun2.uka.de (iraun2.uka.de [129.13.10.91]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BBEF421A for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 01:44:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from irams1.ira.uka.de ([129.13.10.5]) by iraun2.uka.de with esmtp (Exim 3.30 #7 (Debian)) id 163Ddk-0005k8-00 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:44:28 +0100 Received: from i61nb8.ira.uka.de ([129.13.17.18] helo=there) by irams1.ira.uka.de with smtp (Exim 3.30 #7 (Debian)) id 163Ddj-0001ip-00 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:44:27 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Bjoern Giesler Reply-To: Bjoern.Giesler@gmx.de Organization: IPR Karlsruhe To: wireless@samba.org Subject: Netgear MA301 and IRQs Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:46:02 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I'm having troubles with the Netgear MA301/Lucent WaveLAN Silver Turbo.=20 The problem seems to be known (I've browsed the archives) -- the card=20 gets identified and seems to run fine, but it doesn't give any interrupts= =20 to the kernel (at least, that's what "cat /proc/interrupts" suggests).=20 Instead, I get a lot of "Tx timed out" in the console. I've tried this=20 with a production 2.4.14 kernel (0.08a) and the version 0.08b from David=20 Gibson's 'testing' directory; the latter one doesn't segfault on rmmod,=20 but it has the same IRQ problem. Has this problem been solved already? If not, I've found a posting on the= =20 freebsd-mobile list that suggests that they had a similar problem and=20 fixed it by fiddling with the card's IRQ control register. These posts=20 seem relevant: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=3D318765+0+archive/2001/free= bsd-mobile/20010826.freebsd-mobile http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=3D321477+0+archive/2001/free= bsd-mobile/20010826.freebsd-mobile The latter one has a code snippet that might do the right thing -- if=20 anyone tells me just where in the orinoco_plx code I have to put it in,=20 please do so ;-) Thanks a lot in advance, =09=09--Bj=F6rn --=20 =46rom the Computer Support Group's tech glossary: C++ A computer language based on C that uses objected-oriented programming (OOP) design principles. The language is a product of Microsoft technology and is part of the Visual Studio Development package. From kleptog@svana.org Mon Nov 12 02:38:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD07D4C47 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 02:38:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 163EUR-0006ZR-00; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:38:55 +1100 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:38:55 +1100 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: Bjoern.Giesler@gmx.de Cc: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: Netgear MA301 and IRQs Message-ID: <20011112213855.A24923@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from giesler@ira.uka.de on Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 10:46:02AM +0100 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 10:46:02AM +0100, Bjoern Giesler wrote: > Hi, > > I'm having troubles with the Netgear MA301/Lucent WaveLAN Silver Turbo. > The problem seems to be known (I've browsed the archives) -- the card > gets identified and seems to run fine, but it doesn't give any interrupts > to the kernel (at least, that's what "cat /proc/interrupts" suggests). > Instead, I get a lot of "Tx timed out" in the console. I've tried this > with a production 2.4.14 kernel (0.08a) and the version 0.08b from David > Gibson's 'testing' directory; the latter one doesn't segfault on rmmod, > but it has the same IRQ problem. Common problem. Plenty of people are having issues with that card. > Has this problem been solved already? If not, I've found a posting on the > freebsd-mobile list that suggests that they had a similar problem and > fixed it by fiddling with the card's IRQ control register. These posts > seem relevant: > > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=318765+0+archive/2001/freebsd-mobile/20010826.freebsd-mobile > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=321477+0+archive/2001/freebsd-mobile/20010826.freebsd-mobile Looks interesting. It may work. > The latter one has a code snippet that might do the right thing -- if > anyone tells me just where in the orinoco_plx code I have to put it in, > please do so ;-) Well, it would be just after setting the COR. Here is some code off the top of my head. I have no real idea how the PCI stuff works, I'm just guessing: The main reason why I think it's wrong is that there are I/O ports, so should we be using I/O functions to access them? #define WI_LOCAL_INTCSR 0x4c #define WI_LOCAL_INTEN 0x40 /* poke this into INTCSR */ { u32 io_mem; u32 reg; /* Resource 0 is mapped to the PLX chip space */ io_mem = ioremap(pci_resource_start(pdev, 0), PAGE_SIZE); if (! io_mem) goto fail; reg = io_mem[WI_LOCAL_INTCSR / sizeof(u32)]; reg |= WI_LOCAL_INTEN; io_mem[WI_LOCAL_INTCSR / sizeof(u32)]; iounmap( io_mem ); } Anyone see anything wring with it? -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Magnetism, electricity and motion are like a three-for-two special offer: > if you have two of them, the third one comes free. From giesler@ira.uka.de Mon Nov 12 03:02:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from iraun2.uka.de (iraun2.uka.de [129.13.10.91]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A89614C57 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 03:02:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from irams1.ira.uka.de ([129.13.10.5]) by iraun2.uka.de with esmtp (Exim 3.30 #7 (Debian)) id 163ErZ-0006Aw-00; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 12:02:49 +0100 Received: from i61nb8.ira.uka.de ([129.13.17.18] helo=there) by irams1.ira.uka.de with smtp (Exim 3.30 #7 (Debian)) id 163ErY-00035C-00; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 12:02:48 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Bjoern Giesler Reply-To: Bjoern.Giesler@gmx.de Organization: IPR Karlsruhe To: Martijn van Oosterhout , Bjoern.Giesler@gmx.de Subject: Re: Netgear MA301 and IRQs Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 12:04:23 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] Cc: wireless@samba.org References: <20011112213855.A24923@svana.org> In-Reply-To: <20011112213855.A24923@svana.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, Am Montag, 12. November 2001 11:38 schrieb Martijn van Oosterhout: > Well, it would be just after setting the COR. Here is some code off the > top of my head. I have no real idea how the PCI stuff works, I'm just > guessing: [snip] I'll try to put that in this afternoon, when I get home. I have to warn=20 you, though, that I have next to no clue about kernel programming, so I'm= =20 flying blind. Well, anyway. ;-) Regards, =09=09--Bj=F6rn PS This PLX thing, is this a generic PCMCIA-to-something bridge? I.e.=20 could you make it talk to a PCMCIA IDE controller, or is it specialized=20 for WLAN? --=20 =46rom the Computer Support Group's tech glossary: C++ A computer language based on C that uses objected-oriented programming (OOP) design principles. The language is a product of Microsoft technology and is part of the Visual Studio Development package. From kleptog@svana.org Mon Nov 12 03:11:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BD34C6A for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 03:11:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 163F0T-0006bI-00; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:12:01 +1100 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:12:01 +1100 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: Bjoern.Giesler@gmx.de Cc: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: Netgear MA301 and IRQs Message-ID: <20011112221201.B24923@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout References: <20011112213855.A24923@svana.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from giesler@ira.uka.de on Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 12:04:23PM +0100 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 12:04:23PM +0100, Bjoern Giesler wrote: > I'll try to put that in this afternoon, when I get home. I have to warn > you, though, that I have next to no clue about kernel programming, so I'm > flying blind. Well, anyway. ;-) Well, actually, i made a few typos in that code. I don't really know much about it either. It didn't seem to help much here. It broke other stuff :(. At least, assuming it's not just the testing version that broke it. > PS This PLX thing, is this a generic PCMCIA-to-something bridge? I.e. > could you make it talk to a PCMCIA IDE controller, or is it specialized > for WLAN? I don't know, it looks pretty generalised. although it only provides a single I/O and a single memory address space, which may restrict its usage. -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Magnetism, electricity and motion are like a three-for-two special offer: > if you have two of them, the third one comes free. 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------=_NextPart_000_010D_01C16B7E.13DBAE60-- From nick@intv.com.au Mon Nov 12 05:29:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail010.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail010.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.171]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5930A4C87 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 05:29:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from jelkio (adlax8-229.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.234.229]) by mail010.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fACDTPg28237 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 00:29:26 +1100 Message-ID: <000a01c16b7e$95eccce0$0a00a8c0@jelkio> From: "Nick Lane" To: Subject: Wireless in Adelaide Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 00:03:10 +1030 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi everyone, I'm interested in joining a wireless network, unfortunately I live in an area with many trees obscuring line-of-sight in many directions. Last time I checked, there didn't seem to be much interest in my area for a wireless network, but I thought I'd just ask again just in case... If anyone is interested in setting up a network around Rostrevor, or has already done so, please let me know. I have a reasonable collection of resources which I would be more than willing to share if given the opportunity. - Nick From moustafa@cs.umd.edu Mon Nov 12 09:14:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from ringding.cs.umd.edu (ringding.cs.umd.edu [128.8.129.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419394D96 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 09:14:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from cs.umd.edu (lemonhead.cs.umd.edu [128.8.129.73]) by ringding.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA10534 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 12:14:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3BF00371.BCBF8391@cs.umd.edu> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 12:14:25 -0500 From: "Moustafa A. Youssef" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: FYI: A new driver for Wavelan IEEE/Orinoco under Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi All, I modified the Lucent driver 'wavelan2_cs' to return the signal strength from all the access points in range (i.e. all the information like the client manager for Windows.) plus some more features. The new driver (mwavelan_cs) and an API to interface with it (for developpers) are availbale for download at: http://www.cs.umd.edu/users/moustafa Hope it helps, Moustafa PS: I already modified the open source driver wvlan_cs to do the same thing. I'm currently testing it on different platforms. It will be available for download shortly. From D.T.Olsson@staffs.ac.uk Mon Nov 12 09:49:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.staffs.ac.uk (mail.staffs.ac.uk [193.60.4.62]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F4A4D7E for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 09:49:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from sable.soc.staffs.ac.uk (sable.soc.staffs.ac.uk [193.61.121.41]) by mail.staffs.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA02298 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:49:42 GMT Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:48:17 +0000 (GMT) From: Thomas Olsson X-Sender: cmrdto@sable.soc.staffs.ac.uk To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Install question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Afternoon all, Have a Lucent Wavelan (Orinoco) card in a RedHat 7.1 machine and have a couple of queries. I have looked at lots of online documentation and seen similar questions asked before, but they always lack the answers :) Basically, I am using kernle 2.4.2-2 and version 3.1.24-2 of the pcmcia-cs packages. The wireless card is picked up fine by RedHat and it configures OK. A Windows box running the Lucent test software connects in a Peer-to-peer manner and indicates a strong link. however, I keep geting timeouts (wvlan_cs: eth1 Tx timed out! Resetting card) and we can not ping between the machines? I am currently using wvlan.cs and did have a look at the orinoco module but that wont build on this machine. The question then; is it possible to get this working OK with the current driver or am I better of trying with a newer kernel source and then either the orinoco or the wavelan2_cs driver? Any thints/tips are very welcomed. Regards and thanks Thomas From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Mon Nov 12 10:18:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D17C4B1B for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:18:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id KAA18505; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:18:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id KAA09172; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:18:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 163Lez-000762-00; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:18:17 -0800 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:18:17 -0800 To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list , Thomas Olsson Subject: Re : Install question Message-ID: <20011112101817.D27184@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Thomas Olsson wrote : > > timeouts (wvlan_cs: eth1 Tx timed out! Resetting card) and we can not ping Interrupt problems. Try to exclude this interrupt. Jean From jonesmb@arthem.com Mon Nov 12 10:41:08 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail01g.rapidsite.net (mail01g.rapidsite.net [207.158.192.232]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2864D4E26 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:39:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.arthem.com (209.238.115.243) by mail01g.rapidsite.net (RS ver 1.0.60s) with SMTP id 04560403 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:39:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011112122935.00ae5040@arthem.com> X-Sender: jonesmb@arthem.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 12:39:10 -0600 To: wireless@lists.samba.org From: JonesMB Subject: Re : Install question In-Reply-To: <20011112101817.D27184@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Loop-Detect: 1 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Jean, can you explain this some more or point me to a place where I can get more on this. I get the same error on my two systems. Both are running in ad-hoc mode with the orinoco_cs 0.07 driver. one has kernel 2.4.7 and pcmcia 3.1.23. the other has kernel 2.4.10 (I think) and pcmcia 3.1.29. I have access to one of them right now and it says the orinoco_cs driver is on irq 9. are you saying that by excluding irq 9 so it uses another interrupt I will be cured of the "NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth2: transmit timed out" problem? thanks jmb > > timeouts (wvlan_cs: eth1 Tx timed out! Resetting card) and we can not ping > > Interrupt problems. Try to exclude this interrupt. > > Jean From dgibson@samba.org Mon Nov 12 15:43:32 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id 1B54D4B61; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:43:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:40:40 +1100 From: David Gibson To: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: Netgear MA301 and IRQs Message-ID: <20011113104040.F18149@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@samba.org References: <20011112213855.A24923@svana.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 12:04:23PM +0100, Bjoern Giesler wrote: > Hi, > > Am Montag, 12. November 2001 11:38 schrieb Martijn van Oosterhout: > > Well, it would be just after setting the COR. Here is some code off the > > top of my head. I have no real idea how the PCI stuff works, I'm just > > guessing: > > [snip] > > I'll try to put that in this afternoon, when I get home. I have to warn > you, though, that I have next to no clue about kernel programming, so I'm > flying blind. Well, anyway. ;-) > > Regards, > PS This PLX thing, is this a generic PCMCIA-to-something bridge? I.e. > could you make it talk to a PCMCIA IDE controller, or is it specialized > for WLAN? I'm not entirely sure. I don't think it's specific to WLAN as such, but it does make some assumptions about what sorts of io resources the card has. AFAIK it's not possible to do a full PCMCIA implementation through it (well, for one thing it doesn't allow hotplug). -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From giesler@ira.uka.de Tue Nov 13 00:16:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from iraun2.uka.de (iraun2.uka.de [129.13.10.91]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C5BE4183 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 00:16:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from irams1.ira.uka.de ([129.13.10.5]) by iraun2.uka.de with esmtp (Exim 3.30 #7 (Debian)) id 163YkN-00036i-00; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:16:43 +0100 Received: from i61nb8.ira.uka.de ([129.13.17.18] helo=there) by irams1.ira.uka.de with smtp (Exim 3.30 #7 (Debian)) id 163YkM-0004CG-00; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:16:42 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Bjoern Giesler Reply-To: Bjoern.Giesler@gmx.de Organization: IPR Karlsruhe To: Martijn van Oosterhout , Bjoern.Giesler@gmx.de Subject: Re: Netgear MA301 and IRQs Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:18:25 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] Cc: wireless@samba.org References: <20011112213855.A24923@svana.org> In-Reply-To: <20011112213855.A24923@svana.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I've experimented with the card a bit more. Seems like I can indeed send=20 perfectly (pinging another machine with a working WLAN card causes=20 tcpdump to print out the ARP request, and the reply). The MA301 just=20 doesn't throw interrupts... Am Montag, 12. November 2001 11:38 schrieb Martijn van Oosterhout: > #define WI_LOCAL_INTCSR 0x4c > #define WI_LOCAL_INTEN 0x40 /* poke this into INTCSR */ > =09{ > =09=09u32 io_mem; > =09=09u32 reg; > > =09=09/* Resource 0 is mapped to the PLX chip space */ > =09=09io_mem =3D ioremap(pci_resource_start(pdev, 0), PAGE_SIZE); > =09=09if (! io_mem) > =09=09=09goto fail; > > =09=09reg =3D io_mem[WI_LOCAL_INTCSR / sizeof(u32)]; > =09=09reg |=3D WI_LOCAL_INTEN; > =09=09io_mem[WI_LOCAL_INTCSR / sizeof(u32)]; > =09=09iounmap( io_mem ); > =09} OK, I've tried this, and it doesn't change anything. The interesting ting= =20 is that I've tried fiddling with the entire INTCSR register, just about=20 every bit, and that doesn't change anything at all -- the send still=20 goes through, the reply still doesn't. Is there anyone at all who has had success with this card, either using=20 the orinoco-0.0something driver from the kernel or the wlan-ng stuff from= =20 www.linux-wlan.com? There is a Linux directory on the CDs which contains an early version of=20 wlan-ng, which doesn't work with my 2.4 kernel; has anyone tried this?=20 I've tried a newer version from linux-wlan.com, which works with my=20 kernel, but doesn't recognize the card... :-( Seeing that Netgear knows about Linux, do you think it would help to=20 write to them? Regards, =09=09--Bj=F6rn --=20 =46rom the Computer Support Group's tech glossary: C++ A computer language based on C that uses objected-oriented programming (OOP) design principles. The language is a product of Microsoft technology and is part of the Visual Studio Development package. From D.T.Olsson@staffs.ac.uk Tue Nov 13 01:58:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.staffs.ac.uk (mail.staffs.ac.uk [193.60.4.62]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C95C441A3 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 01:58:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from sable.soc.staffs.ac.uk (sable.soc.staffs.ac.uk [193.61.121.41]) by mail.staffs.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA28890 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:58:53 GMT Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:57:27 +0000 (GMT) From: Thomas Olsson X-Sender: cmrdto@sable.soc.staffs.ac.uk To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Re : Install question In-Reply-To: <20011112101817.D27184@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Jean, > > timeouts (wvlan_cs: eth1 Tx timed out! Resetting card) and we can not ping > > Interrupt problems. Try to exclude this interrupt. I have used IRQ 10 and 9, both should be free, but still getting the same error. The errors are quite irratic as well, sometimes the errors just keep printing on screen, sometimes I get no errors, and right now I'm getting errors every now and then? Is there anyway of finding out why this is a) happening and b) is sporadic? Thanks and regards Thomas From kleptog@svana.org Tue Nov 13 02:09:22 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23804797 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 02:09:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 163aVe-0007U0-00; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 21:09:38 +1100 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 21:09:38 +1100 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: Bjoern.Giesler@gmx.de Cc: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: Netgear MA301 and IRQs Message-ID: <20011113210938.A28686@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout References: <20011112213855.A24923@svana.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from giesler@ira.uka.de on Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 09:18:25AM +0100 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 09:18:25AM +0100, Bjoern Giesler wrote: > > #define WI_LOCAL_INTCSR 0x4c > > reg = io_mem[WI_LOCAL_INTCSR / sizeof(u32)]; > > OK, I've tried this, and it doesn't change anything. The interesting ting > is that I've tried fiddling with the entire INTCSR register, just about > every bit, and that doesn't change anything at all -- the send still > goes through, the reply still doesn't. Well, I'm sort of assuming here that the 0x4c refer to the offset in the mapped area. It could also be the register number. Somewho knows how the freebsd setup worked would have to check this. You could try it out by removing the "/ sizeof(u32)". I'm assuming you fixed the type of io_mem and added the missing assignment. > Is there anyone at all who has had success with this card, either using > the orinoco-0.0something driver from the kernel or the wlan-ng stuff from > www.linux-wlan.com? I don't know of any success stories in linux. > There is a Linux directory on the CDs which contains an early version of > wlan-ng, which doesn't work with my 2.4 kernel; has anyone tried this? > I've tried a newer version from linux-wlan.com, which works with my > kernel, but doesn't recognize the card... :-( As far as I know, that driver works fine for the pcmcia card, but has no idea about the PCI adapter. > Seeing that Netgear knows about Linux, do you think it would help to > write to them? No idea. All the docs seem to be available on the web. We're just not putting it together right... -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Magnetism, electricity and motion are like a three-for-two special offer: > if you have two of them, the third one comes free. From paleface@ioi.dk Tue Nov 13 02:10:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from beast.ioi.dk (ns.ioi.dk [62.243.244.250]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E3547A4 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 02:10:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from paleface by beast.ioi.dk with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 163aXG-0003Vt-00 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 11:11:18 +0100 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 11:11:18 +0100 From: Jacob Gorm Hansen To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Problems with ibook, airport card, and netgear ME102 AP Message-ID: <20011113111118.A13103@ioi.dk> References: <20011111235311.D2968@ioi.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: ; from C.Edwards@compserv.gla.ac.uk on Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 12:33:14PM +0000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 12:33:14PM +0000, Chris Edwards wrote: > | I recently bought a Netgear ME102 WAP, to use with my Ibook2 and Airport card. > | > | I previously used the card with other access points without problems, but the > | ME102 and I never get talking at all. > > Hi, > > Out of interest does the ME102 talk to the ibook+airport card if > running MacOS ? Haven't tried that yet, MacOS is a bit unwilling to install on the machine after I fdisked it for linux. I'm going to try that soon. Still I'd like to have it running in linux though... ;-) > Chris Best Jacob From D.T.Olsson@staffs.ac.uk Tue Nov 13 02:26:22 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.staffs.ac.uk (mail.staffs.ac.uk [193.60.4.62]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC74649E4 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 02:26:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from sable.soc.staffs.ac.uk (sable.soc.staffs.ac.uk [193.61.121.41]) by mail.staffs.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA02175 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:26:42 GMT Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:25:16 +0000 (GMT) From: Thomas Olsson X-Sender: cmrdto@sable.soc.staffs.ac.uk To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Further update Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Ok, some more information on the "eth1: Transmit timeout". At startup I get umpty errors which then more or less stop. If I try and ping a server on the eth1 sub-net (the public network) which it can not see then I get the timeouts followed by "Destination host unreachable". I do have samba running on the server so could the initial errors be due to samba sending out election information etc? Still does not solve the problem though. If I issue a "route" command, it lists all the internal routing and then sits there for a while (spitting out lots of timeouts) after which it comes back with the default router listed as being connected to eth1. Regs Thomas From falbinali@yahoo.com Tue Nov 13 15:06:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from web11606.mail.yahoo.com (web11606.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.58]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2779745F1 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:06:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011113230622.25239.qmail@web11606.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [150.135.82.8] by web11606.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:06:22 PST Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:06:22 -0800 (PST) From: Subject: Orinoco forced handoff To: wireless@lists.samba.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I have been trying to force a handoff in a wireless lan. what we have is AP 1000 and some laptops with orinoco silver cards. I have done some changes to the driver, but I am not sure if its possible to FORCE a handover. Did anyone succeed in doing that. Fahd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com From mick@faceng.anu.edu.au Tue Nov 13 17:21:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from hilbert.anu.edu.au (hilbert.anu.edu.au [150.203.43.6]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687804388 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:21:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from faceng.anu.edu.au (nicholson [150.203.43.98]) by hilbert.anu.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04996 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 12:24:50 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <3BF1C96E.5030202@faceng.anu.edu.au> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 12:31:26 +1100 From: mick stuckings User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Providing internet access over wireless Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Seems to me that if a company can provide wide area wireless internet access to it's employees, if you want to do it yourself you only need to create the appropriate legal organisation, company or whatever. You obviously don't need a carrier license in this case as you are not like a radio station, broadcasting to third parties, only to your "employees/codirectors". Mick From bhards@bigpond.net.au Tue Nov 13 22:50:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailin7.bigpond.com (mailin7.bigpond.com [139.134.6.95]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 772E747BD for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 22:50:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from bigpond.net.au ([144.135.24.78]) by mailin7.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GMS3AG00.HX5 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 16:56:40 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-176-43.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.176.43]) by bwmam04.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9k 8329/8384593); 14 Nov 2001 16:50:02 Message-ID: <3BF21492.CA604575@bigpond.net.au> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 17:52:02 +1100 From: Brad Hards X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.15-pre2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Skynet Global compatibility? References: <3BDE3031.1D6E9A16@bigpond.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Brad Hards wrote: > > I picked up a brochure for a company offering wireless access in some areas > (http://www.skynetglobal.com), and it looked kind of interesting (range of > plans, probably 22c/min). > > Has anyone played with this with Linux (specifically, with a 2.4 kernel, and > the orinoco driver for a Prism II type card)? > > Also, does anyone know how the authentication works? I was in the Qantas Club in Sydney yesterday, and gave it a quick try. Set the essid to "skynetglobal" - eventually it "took" after some card mangling. ping -b 255.255.255.255 produced a few (6?) responses, all in the 10.something.something.X range. ping www.google.com produced a typical response. times looked ok, but I didn't record them. finally bringing up netscape dropped me into a https:// cgi script, looking for a password and username, which I ignored. Couldn't get to google or my pop-server. ncftp couldn't get to mirror.aarnet.edu.au got called for my flight. Conclusion: some kind of proxying setup requiring authentication. icmp and dns work. the pop-server might not be available from outside the telstra adsl service - I've never tried it from externally before. Brad From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Wed Nov 14 17:43:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62AB14269 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 17:42:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id RAA04503; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 17:43:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id RAA26124; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 17:43:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 164BYg-0001bi-00; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 17:43:14 -0800 Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 17:43:14 -0800 To: David Gibson Cc: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Missed Orinoco patch Message-ID: <20011114174314.B6152@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="azLHFNyN32YCQGCU" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi Dave, You seem to have missed an Orinoco patch I sent a couple of weeks ago. It adds support for Wireless Extension 12. Maybe it's in your todo list, but I wanted to make sure... Patch re-attached... Jean --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="we12.ori.diff" diff -u -p -r wireless.11b/hermes.h wireless/hermes.h --- wireless.11b/hermes.h Fri Oct 5 18:36:04 2001 +++ wireless/hermes.h Mon Oct 8 22:26:36 2001 @@ -149,6 +149,12 @@ #define HERMES_MONITOR_DISABLE (0x000f) /* + * Inquire RIDs + */ +#define HERMES_RID_TALLIES (0xF100) +#define HERMES_RID_SCAN (0xF101) + +/* * Configuration RIDs */ @@ -311,6 +317,15 @@ static inline int hermes_disable_port(he return hermes_docmd_wait(hw, HERMES_CMD_ENABLE | (port << 8), 0, &resp); +} + +/* Initiate an INQUIRE command : most likely Tallies or Scan. + * The result will come later as an information frame in __dldwd_ev_info() */ +int hermes_inquire(hermes_t *hw, uint16_t rid) +{ + hermes_response_t resp; + + return hermes_docmd_wait(hw, HERMES_CMD_INQ, rid, &resp); } #define HERMES_BYTES_TO_RECLEN(n) ( ((n) % 2) ? (((n)+1)/2)+1 : ((n)/2)+1 ) diff -u -p -r wireless.11b/orinoco.c wireless/orinoco.c --- wireless.11b/orinoco.c Fri Oct 5 18:36:04 2001 +++ wireless/orinoco.c Tue Oct 9 01:04:14 2001 @@ -222,6 +222,10 @@ * o Inserted some missing acknowledgements/info into the Changelog. * o Fixed some bugs in the normalisation of signel level reporting. * + * v0.08a -> v0.08b - ???? - Jean II + * o Update to Wireless 12 -> private ioctl + avg qual stats + * o Get discard stats through an INQUIRE request + * * TODO - Jean II * o inline functions (lots of candidate, need to reorder code) * o Test PrismII/Symbol cards & firmware versions @@ -275,6 +279,13 @@ MODULE_PARM(dldwd_debug, "i"); int use_old_encaps = 0; MODULE_PARM(use_old_encaps, "i"); +/* Wireless Extension Backward compatibility - Jean II + * If the new wireless device private ioctl range is not defined, + * default to standard device private ioctl range */ +#ifndef SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV +#define SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV SIOCDEVPRIVATE +#endif /* SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV */ + #define SYMBOL_MAX_VER_LEN (14) const long channel_frequency[] = { @@ -335,6 +346,35 @@ struct dldwd_frame_hdr { uint16_t ethertype __PACKED__; }; +/* Grabbed from wvlan_hcf.h - Thanks Lucent... - Jean II + * This are the accumulated tallies since the last tallies INQUIRE command */ +struct dldwd_tallies_frame { + uint16_t TxUnicastFrames; + uint16_t TxMulticastFrames; + uint16_t TxFragments; + uint16_t TxUnicastOctets; + uint16_t TxMulticastOctets; + uint16_t TxDeferredTransmissions; + uint16_t TxSingleRetryFrames; + uint16_t TxMultipleRetryFrames; + uint16_t TxRetryLimitExceeded; + uint16_t TxDiscards; + uint16_t RxUnicastFrames; + uint16_t RxMulticastFrames; + uint16_t RxFragments; + uint16_t RxUnicastOctets; + uint16_t RxMulticastOctets; + uint16_t RxFCSErrors; + uint16_t RxDiscards_NoBuffer; + uint16_t TxDiscardsWrongSA; + uint16_t RxWEPUndecryptable; + uint16_t RxMsgInMsgFragments; + uint16_t RxMsgInBadMsgFragments; + /* Those last are probably not available in very old firmwares */ + uint16_t RxDiscards_WEPICVError; + uint16_t RxDiscards_WEPExcluded; +}; + #define P8023_OFFSET (sizeof(hermes_frame_desc_t) + \ sizeof(struct p80211_hdr)) #define ENCAPS_OVERHEAD (sizeof(struct p8022_hdr) + 2) @@ -1088,9 +1128,79 @@ static void __dldwd_ev_infdrop(dldwd_pri static void __dldwd_ev_info(dldwd_priv_t *priv, hermes_t *hw) { - DEBUG(3, "%s: Information frame received.\n", priv->ndev.name); - /* We don't actually do anything about it - we assume the MAC - controller can deal with it */ + struct net_device *dev = &priv->ndev; + uint16_t infofid; + uint16_t info[2]; + int err; + + /* This is an answer to an INQUIRE command that we did earlier. + * The controller return to us a pseudo frame containing + * the information we have asked - Jean II */ + + infofid = hermes_read_regn(hw, INFOFID); + DEBUG(3, "__dldwd_ev_info(): INFOFID=0x%04x\n", infofid); + + /* Read the info frame header - don't try too hard */ + err = hermes_bap_pread(hw, IRQ_BAP, info, sizeof(info), + infofid, 0); + if (err) { + if (err == -EIO) + DEBUG(1, "%s: EIO reading info frame.\n", dev->name); + else + printk(KERN_ERR "%s: error %d reading info frame. " + "Frame dropped.\n", dev->name, err); + return; + } + + /* The header is composed as follows : + * info[0] -> size of the frame + * info[1] -> RID of the INQUIRE command + */ + switch(le16_to_cpu(info[1])) { + case HERMES_RID_TALLIES: + { + struct dldwd_tallies_frame tallies; + struct iw_statistics *wstats = &priv->wstats; + int len = le16_to_cpu(info[0]) - 1; + + if(len > (sizeof(struct dldwd_tallies_frame) / 2)) { + DEBUG(1, "%s: tallies frame too long.\n", dev->name); + len = sizeof(struct dldwd_tallies_frame) / 2; + } + + /* Read directly the data (no seek) */ + hermes_read_words(hw, HERMES_DATA1, (void *) &tallies, len); + + /* Increment our various counters */ + /* wstats->discard.nwid - no wrong BSSID stuff */ + wstats->discard.code += + le16_to_cpu(tallies.RxWEPUndecryptable); + if(len == (sizeof(struct dldwd_tallies_frame) / 2)) + wstats->discard.code += + le16_to_cpu(tallies.RxDiscards_WEPICVError) + + le16_to_cpu(tallies.RxDiscards_WEPExcluded); + wstats->discard.misc += + le16_to_cpu(tallies.TxDiscardsWrongSA); +#if WIRELESS_EXT > 11 + wstats->discard.fragment += + le16_to_cpu(tallies.RxMsgInBadMsgFragments); + wstats->discard.retries += + le16_to_cpu(tallies.TxRetryLimitExceeded); + /* wstats->miss.beacon - no match */ +#if ORINOCO_DEBUG > 3 + /* Hack for debugging - should not be taken as an example */ + wstats->discard.nwid += le16_to_cpu(tallies.TxUnicastFrames); + wstats->miss.beacon += le16_to_cpu(tallies.RxUnicastFrames); +#endif +#endif /* WIRELESS_EXT > 11 */ + } + break; + default: + DEBUG(3, "%s: Unknown information frame received.\n", + priv->ndev.name); + /* We don't actually do anything about it */ + break; + } } static void __dldwd_ev_rx(dldwd_priv_t *priv, hermes_t *hw) @@ -1627,6 +1737,11 @@ dldwd_get_wireless_stats(struct net_devi wstats->qual.updated = 7; } + /* We can't really wait for the tallies inquiry command to + * complete, so we just use the previous results and trigger + * a new tallies inquiry command for next time - Jean II */ + err = hermes_inquire(hw, HERMES_RID_TALLIES); + dldwd_unlock(priv); if (err) @@ -1894,10 +2009,21 @@ static int dldwd_ioctl_getiwrange(struct range.max_qual.qual = 0; range.max_qual.level = 0; range.max_qual.noise = 0; +#if WIRELESS_EXT > 11 + range.avg_qual.qual = 0; + range.avg_qual.level = 0; + range.avg_qual.noise = 0; +#endif /* WIRELESS_EXT > 11 */ } else { range.max_qual.qual = 0x8b - 0x2f; range.max_qual.level = 0x2f - 0x95 - 1; range.max_qual.noise = 0x2f - 0x95 - 1; +#if WIRELESS_EXT > 11 + /* Need to get better values */ + range.avg_qual.qual = 0x24; + range.avg_qual.level = 0xC2; + range.avg_qual.noise = 0x9E; +#endif /* WIRELESS_EXT > 11 */ } err = dldwd_hw_get_bitratelist(priv, &numrates, @@ -3043,26 +3169,26 @@ dldwd_ioctl(struct net_device *dev, stru DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWPRIV\n", dev->name); if (wrq->u.data.pointer) { struct iw_priv_args privtab[] = { - { SIOCDEVPRIVATE + 0x0, 0, 0, "force_reset" }, - { SIOCDEVPRIVATE + 0x1, 0, 0, "card_reset" }, - { SIOCDEVPRIVATE + 0x2, + { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x2, IW_PRIV_TYPE_INT | IW_PRIV_SIZE_FIXED | 1, 0, "set_port3" }, - { SIOCDEVPRIVATE + 0x3, 0, + { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x3, 0, IW_PRIV_TYPE_INT | IW_PRIV_SIZE_FIXED | 1, "get_port3" }, - { SIOCDEVPRIVATE + 0x4, + { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x4, IW_PRIV_TYPE_INT | IW_PRIV_SIZE_FIXED | 1, 0, "set_preamble" }, - { SIOCDEVPRIVATE + 0x5, 0, + { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x5, 0, IW_PRIV_TYPE_INT | IW_PRIV_SIZE_FIXED | 1, "get_preamble" }, - { SIOCDEVPRIVATE + 0x6, + { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x6, IW_PRIV_TYPE_INT | IW_PRIV_SIZE_FIXED | 1, 0, "set_ibssport" }, - { SIOCDEVPRIVATE + 0x7, 0, + { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x7, 0, IW_PRIV_TYPE_INT | IW_PRIV_SIZE_FIXED | 1, - "get_ibssport" } + "get_ibssport" }, + { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0xC, 0, 0, "force_reset" }, + { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0xE, 0, 0, "cor_reset" }, }; err = verify_area(VERIFY_WRITE, wrq->u.data.pointer, sizeof(privtab)); @@ -3075,8 +3201,8 @@ dldwd_ioctl(struct net_device *dev, stru } break; - case SIOCDEVPRIVATE + 0x0: /* force_reset */ - DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCDEVPRIVATE + 0x0 (force_reset)\n", + case SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0xC: /* force_reset */ + DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0xC (force_reset)\n", dev->name); if (! capable(CAP_NET_ADMIN)) { err = -EPERM; @@ -3087,22 +3213,22 @@ dldwd_ioctl(struct net_device *dev, stru dldwd_reset(priv); break; - case SIOCDEVPRIVATE + 0x1: /* card_reset */ - DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCDEVPRIVATE + 0x1 (card_reset)\n", + case SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0xE: /* cor_reset */ + DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0xE (card_reset)\n", dev->name); if (! capable(CAP_NET_ADMIN)) { err = -EPERM; break; } - printk(KERN_DEBUG "%s: Forcing card reset!\n", dev->name); + printk(KERN_DEBUG "%s: Forcing COR reset!\n", dev->name); if(priv->card_reset_handler != NULL) priv->card_reset_handler(priv); dldwd_reset(priv); break; - case SIOCDEVPRIVATE + 0x2: /* set_port3 */ - DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCDEVPRIVATE + 0x2 (set_port3)\n", + case SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x2: /* set_port3 */ + DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x2 (set_port3)\n", dev->name); if (! capable(CAP_NET_ADMIN)) { err = -EPERM; @@ -3114,14 +3240,14 @@ dldwd_ioctl(struct net_device *dev, stru changed = 1; break; - case SIOCDEVPRIVATE + 0x3: /* get_port3 */ - DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCDEVPRIVATE + 0x3 (get_port3)\n", + case SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x3: /* get_port3 */ + DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x3 (get_port3)\n", dev->name); err = dldwd_ioctl_getport3(dev, wrq); break; - case SIOCDEVPRIVATE + 0x4: /* set_preamble */ - DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCDEVPRIVATE + 0x4 (set_preamble)\n", + case SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x4: /* set_preamble */ + DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x4 (set_preamble)\n", dev->name); if (! capable(CAP_NET_ADMIN)) { err = -EPERM; @@ -3147,8 +3273,8 @@ dldwd_ioctl(struct net_device *dev, stru err = -EOPNOTSUPP; break; - case SIOCDEVPRIVATE + 0x5: /* get_preamble */ - DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCDEVPRIVATE + 0x5 (get_preamble)\n", + case SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x5: /* get_preamble */ + DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x5 (get_preamble)\n", dev->name); if(priv->has_preamble) { int *val = (int *)wrq->u.name; @@ -3159,8 +3285,8 @@ dldwd_ioctl(struct net_device *dev, stru } else err = -EOPNOTSUPP; break; - case SIOCDEVPRIVATE + 0x6: /* set_ibssport */ - DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCDEVPRIVATE + 0x6 (set_ibssport)\n", + case SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x6: /* set_ibssport */ + DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x6 (set_ibssport)\n", dev->name); if (! capable(CAP_NET_ADMIN)) { err = -EPERM; @@ -3172,8 +3298,8 @@ dldwd_ioctl(struct net_device *dev, stru changed = 1; break; - case SIOCDEVPRIVATE + 0x7: /* get_ibssport */ - DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCDEVPRIVATE + 0x7 (get_ibssport)\n", + case SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x7: /* get_ibssport */ + DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x7 (get_ibssport)\n", dev->name); err = dldwd_ioctl_getibssport(dev, wrq); break; --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU-- From grog@lemis.com Wed Nov 14 17:46:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from monorchid.lemis.com (monorchid.lemis.com [192.109.197.75]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479534D46 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 17:46:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by monorchid.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECB1A7855F; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 12:16:59 +1030 (CST) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 12:16:59 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Brad Hards Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Skynet Global compatibility? Message-ID: <20011115121659.U33267@monorchid.lemis.com> References: <3BDE3031.1D6E9A16@bigpond.net.au> <3BF21492.CA604575@bigpond.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3BF21492.CA604575@bigpond.net.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wednesday, 14 November 2001 at 17:52:02 +1100, Brad Hards wrote: > Brad Hards wrote: >> >> I picked up a brochure for a company offering wireless access in some areas >> (http://www.skynetglobal.com), and it looked kind of interesting (range of >> plans, probably 22c/min). I've not looked recently. I'm paying $20 a month, which might be a little high compared to 22c a minute. They now have a system where you can hire a card at the Qantas club reception. I don't know how much it costs, but there's an obvious way to find out. >> Has anyone played with this with Linux (specifically, with a 2.4 >> kernel, and the orinoco driver for a Prism II type card)? I use an Orinoco card with FreeBSD, and I haven't had any problems with the link. >> Also, does anyone know how the authentication works? > > I was in the Qantas Club in Sydney yesterday, and gave it a quick try. > > Set the essid to "skynetglobal" - eventually it "took" after some card > mangling. JOOI, how did you find out the ESSID? For the sake of completeness, I suppose you used DHCP to get an IP address. > ping -b 255.255.255.255 produced a few (6?) responses, all in the > 10.something.something.X range. These are probably other systems installed locally. I've never seen any other customer activity in a Qantas club lounge, though I have in the USA (once). > ping www.google.com produced a typical response. times looked ok, > but I didn't record them. Hmm. This didn't use to work until you authenticated. > finally bringing up netscape dropped me into a https:// cgi script, looking > for a password and username, which I ignored. Couldn't get to google or my > pop-server. > > ncftp couldn't get to mirror.aarnet.edu.au > > got called for my flight. > > Conclusion: some kind of proxying setup requiring authentication. icmp and dns > work. the pop-server might not be available from outside the telstra adsl > service - I've never tried it from externally before. I missed the original message. I've been subscribed to SkyNet Global's service since March. They're gradually getting their act together (last week they finally got reverse DNS on their mail server!), and it's beginning to look pretty reasonable. What you say there is pretty much correct. The authentication is necessary to get routed at all, so you won't get anywhere otherwise. On the whole, I think the service isn't too bad. Sending mail is still an issue: if the server doesn't have reverse DNS, a number of sites (including my own and also FreeBSD.org) refuse to accept the mail. The NAT gateway address (still) doesn't have reverse DNS, so you can't send mail directly. When the mail server external interface also didn't have reverse DNS, this was a good way to lose mail and never find out about it. I'm fairly confident that they're improving things now, though. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Wed Nov 14 17:56:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5147740C5 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 17:56:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id RAA05166; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 17:56:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id RAA28939; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 17:56:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 164Blr-0001cM-00; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 17:56:51 -0800 Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 17:56:51 -0800 To: Manoj Kasichainula , Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: mini-PCI support for orinoco_cs Message-ID: <20011114175651.A6210@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com References: <20011026221432.B1785@samosa.nojie.com> <20011029132130.H20748@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <20011110072703.GA1312@samosa.chappati.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011110072703.GA1312@samosa.chappati.org>; from manoj@io.com on Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 11:27:03PM -0800 Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 11:27:03PM -0800, Manoj Kasichainula wrote: > > I got linux_wlan working, but not with WEP, which I need at work. It > also seemed finicky and refused to work at many points. Interesting. > I still get the "Channel out of range" error: > > Nov 9 22:53:48 samosa kernel: eth1: Channel out of range (0)! Seen that. Probably firmware issue. > But, I can go online with the mini-pci card now (woohoo!). I've never managed that. Lucky you ;-) > The Link Quality is the strange part. The 103 (or thereabouts) is > being relayed properly from /proc/net/wireless, which generates output > like this: > > Inter-| sta-| Quality | Discarded packets | Missed > face | tus | link level noise | nwid crypt frag retry misc | beacon > eth1: 0000 104. 216. 112. 0 0 0 0 0 0 David did remove some min/max stuff in the driver, that produce this result. Don't worry. > Also, when I set a WEP key, connectivity dies. Have you tried the tcpdump trick ? Also, try to set all 4 keys with keys of the same length (I use to have this workaround in the driver but David got rid of it). I think I needed both those things to get it working... > One more oddity is that when I try to use dhcpcd to get an address, I > get in syslog: > > Nov 9 22:55:55 samosa dhcpcd[508]: infinite IP address lease time. Exiting > > This doesn't happen when I use my orinoco wireless PCMCIA card. Weird. > Any ideas for these problems? Are there any other messages or output > you'd like to see? Thanks for your help and this driver; it's not > perfect yet, but it seems to be the best one for me right now. For WEP, someone would have to check what's done in linux-wlan-ng. Last time I checked was 0.8, but 0.10 has many improvements. It may also depend on firmware. For PCI support, I can't really help because it doesn't work here. Integrating my ugly code into the main driver is an open issue, and I don't know if David has any idea on the subject... Good luck... Jean From robert_fenech@hotmail.com Wed Nov 14 19:46:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from hotmail.com (f46.law14.hotmail.com [64.4.21.46]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8538550D7 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 19:45:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 19:46:14 -0800 Received: from 141.210.180.186 by lw14fd.law14.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 03:46:14 GMT X-Originating-IP: [141.210.180.186] From: "Robert Fenech" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 04:46:14 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Nov 2001 03:46:14.0972 (UTC) FILETIME=[134A97C0:01C16D88] Subject: (no subject) Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive:
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From Robert.Edwards@anu.edu.au Wed Nov 14 20:15:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from cs.anu.edu.au (cs.anu.edu.au [150.203.164.35]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D2C44DF for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 20:15:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from anu.edu.au (tux [150.203.160.12]) by cs.anu.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11149 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 15:15:00 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <3BF3416B.8286183F@anu.edu.au> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 15:15:39 +1100 From: Bob Edwards Organization: Australian National University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: mini-PCI support for orinoco_cs References: <20011026221432.B1785@samosa.nojie.com> <20011029132130.H20748@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <20011110072703.GA1312@samosa.chappati.org> <20011114175651.A6210@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Jean Tourrilhes wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 11:27:03PM -0800, Manoj Kasichainula wrote: > > > > I got linux_wlan working, but not with WEP, which I need at work. It > > also seemed finicky and refused to work at many points. > > Interesting. > > > I still get the "Channel out of range" error: > > > > Nov 9 22:53:48 samosa kernel: eth1: Channel out of range (0)! > > Seen that. Probably firmware issue. > > > But, I can go online with the mini-pci card now (woohoo!). > > I've never managed that. Lucky you ;-) > I have a mini-pci orinoco card in my Dell Latitude C600. It works fine when associating to Apple Airport Base stations, but as soon as I roam past our Aironet AP-4800, it loses connection. All of our other Aironet and Orinoco equipped machines can roam between the Airport and Aironet access points with not even a hint of a slowdown. Anyone care to suggest why the mini-pci card would have trouble accessing an Aironet access point? I am using David Gibson's orinoco driver version 0.08a. It reports: "eth0: Looks like a Lucent/Agere firmware version 6.16" Cheers, Bob Edwards. From behroozi@fas.harvard.edu Wed Nov 14 20:38:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from smtp4.fas.harvard.edu (smtp.fas.harvard.edu [140.247.34.54]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 253B050ED for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 20:38:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from is06.fas.harvard.edu (IDENT:daemon@is06.fas.harvard.edu [140.247.34.106]) by smtp4.fas.harvard.edu with ESMTP id fAF4dAM25438 Received: by is06.fas.harvard.edu with ESMTP id fAF4d9q04470 X-Authentication-Warning: is06.fas.harvard.edu: behroozi owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 23:39:09 -0500 (EST) From: Cyrus Behroozi To: , , Subject: 802.11a Linux drivers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Is anyone aware of an effort to develop Linux drivers for any of the 802.11a cards that have recently become available? Are there any manufacturers that plan to release Linux drivers for their 802.11a products? --Cyrus From vk4kij@ecig.com.au Wed Nov 14 22:18:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from vk4kij.ecig.com.au (unknown [203.31.210.27]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E1250B9 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 22:18:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (vk4kij@localhost) by vk4kij.ecig.com.au (8.11.6/8.10.2) with ESMTP id fAF6HYJ26183 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:17:34 +1000 Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:17:34 +1000 (EST) From: Ian To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: 3com airconnect Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: G'day All, I have 2 of these cards, 1 an early model (3crwe737a-e1) with detachable antenna, and a late model (3crwe73796b-e1) with a non-detachable antenna. I would like to use IBSS Ad-Hoc mode between these 2 cards, 1 on a windows box (win95b), the other linux (slackware 8.0, 2.4.14, orinoco_cs 0.8a, wireless_tools.22). So far they work between each other in Pseudo IBSS (Proprietary Ad Hoc), as 3com call it, though the late model card will only work in windows, in linux it will not transmit, though it will receive and try to transmit (the late model card not working in linux is not an issue for me, just an observation). iwconfig only seems to give me 2 choices, managed or ad-hoc, in ad-hoc it complains that essid must be set for IBSS ad-hoc mode, which I do, but the windows box will only communicate with it in Pseudo IBSS Ad-Hoc mode. No amount of fiddling the setting seems to get them to communicate in IBSS Ad-Hoc, or have I just got all the terms mixed up as what I want to do is to allow mixed wireless card brands/operating systems to communicate via wireless. -- Catch you later, |InterNet - || AmprNet - Ian. ||| AX25 - "Never apply a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem!" From bhards@bigpond.net.au Wed Nov 14 22:28:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailin10.bigpond.com (mailin10.bigpond.com [139.134.6.87]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ABE5463F for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 22:27:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from bigpond.net.au ([144.135.24.78]) by mailin10.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GMTWXV00.HRC; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:34:43 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-176-43.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.176.43]) by bwmam04.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9k 8329/9737969); 15 Nov 2001 16:28:05 Message-ID: <3BF360E9.9557C7BC@bigpond.net.au> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 17:30:01 +1100 From: Brad Hards X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.15-pre2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Skynet Global compatibility? References: <3BDE3031.1D6E9A16@bigpond.net.au> <3BF21492.CA604575@bigpond.net.au> <20011115121659.U33267@monorchid.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Greg Lehey wrote: > JOOI, how did you find out the ESSID? For the sake of completeness, I > suppose you used DHCP to get an IP address. The essid was on their website. Technical FAQ or something like that. I used DHCP, probably because my setup (for home) is configured off a airport providing DHCP. Brad From giesler@ira.uka.de Thu Nov 15 01:06:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from iraun2.uka.de (iraun2.uka.de [129.13.10.91]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23C35127 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 01:06:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from irams1.ira.uka.de ([129.13.10.5]) by iraun2.uka.de with esmtp (Exim 3.30 #7 (Debian)) id 164ITz-0007Vc-00 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 10:06:52 +0100 Received: from i61nb8.ira.uka.de ([129.13.17.18] helo=there) by irams1.ira.uka.de with smtp (Exim 3.30 #7 (Debian)) id 164ITz-0007L4-00 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 10:06:51 +0100 From: Bjoern Giesler Reply-To: Bjoern.Giesler@gmx.de Organization: IPR Karlsruhe To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Netgear MA301 works Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 10:08:49 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_P24U224EB1MP55YXZZ29" Message-Id: Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --------------Boundary-00=_P24U224EB1MP55YXZZ29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, *phew* finally. I got my MA301 working under Linux with the orinoco_plx=20 driver. I use a Lucent/WaveLAN Silver card. The fix was indeed fiddling=20 with the PLX's Interrupt Enable register. Patch (to orinoco-0.08b, from=20 David Gibson's testing directory) attached; it's very small. I haven't=20 tried any encryption, and only Ad-Hoc mode; still, I watched a DivX movie= =20 across the wireless link last night, which suggests it's quite stable.=20 One issue remains: On rmmod, some things obviously get corrupted in=20 kernel memory (try cat /proc/interrupts; produces garbage on my machine).= =20 I'll look into that. But I have a (perhaps PCI-related) question. The PLX's PCI base address=20 registers theoretically have the first one (resource 0) point to=20 memory-accessable memory and the second one (resource 1) point to=20 IO-accessable memory; apart from the access method, both should allow the= =20 same local configuration access (see p8-1 of the PLX data book for=20 reference). Now, the first one points to 0; accordingly, pci_resource_start(dev, 0)=20 returns 0x0. So that probably means that no memory access is possible to=20 the local config. So far, so good; if we're supposed to do inb/outb, we=20 can. But if I don't check for 0-ness of that address, and just pass it to= =20 ioremap(), I get a valid adress back! (Which is, of course, bogus -- I=20 don't want to know whose driver space I fiddled with when that happened=20 to me.) Is this by design, or is it a bug in ioremap()? Regards, =09=09--Bj=F6rn --=20 =46rom the Computer Support Group's tech glossary: C++ A computer language based on C that uses objected-oriented programming (OOP) design principles. 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I got my MA301 working under Linux with the orinoco_plx > driver. Cool!!!! > I use a Lucent/WaveLAN Silver card. The fix was indeed fiddling > with the PLX's Interrupt Enable register. Patch (to orinoco-0.08b, from > David Gibson's testing directory) attached; it's very small. May I request you send the patch as a unified diff (-u). This patch does not contain enough context to reliably patch the source. I'm also concerned about the i386 specificness of the patch but someone who knows about this can fix that. > But I have a (perhaps PCI-related) question. The PLX's PCI base address > registers theoretically have the first one (resource 0) point to > memory-accessable memory and the second one (resource 1) point to > IO-accessable memory; apart from the access method, both should allow the > same local configuration access (see p8-1 of the PLX data book for > reference). Ok... > Now, the first one points to 0; accordingly, pci_resource_start(dev, 0) > returns 0x0. So that probably means that no memory access is possible to > the local config. So far, so good; if we're supposed to do inb/outb, we > can. But if I don't check for 0-ness of that address, and just pass it to > ioremap(), I get a valid adress back! (Which is, of course, bogus -- I > don't want to know whose driver space I fiddled with when that happened > to me.) Is this by design, or is it a bug in ioremap()? The zero address is not necessarily bad. Although the i386 architecture does define a use for I/O addresses beginning with zero, this is not a feature of PCI. Besides, ioremap fiddles the memory maps, it doesn't check whether what you are trying to map actually exists. How would one check that anyway... -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Magnetism, electricity and motion are like a three-for-two special offer: > if you have two of them, the third one comes free. From giesler@ira.uka.de Thu Nov 15 02:26:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from iraun2.uka.de (iraun2.uka.de [129.13.10.91]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97DA84279 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 02:26:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from irams1.ira.uka.de ([129.13.10.5]) by iraun2.uka.de with esmtp (Exim 3.30 #7 (Debian)) id 164Jio-000066-00; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 11:26:14 +0100 Received: from i61nb8.ira.uka.de ([129.13.17.18] helo=there) by irams1.ira.uka.de with smtp (Exim 3.30 #7 (Debian)) id 164Jin-0000vD-00; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 11:26:13 +0100 From: Bjoern Giesler Reply-To: Bjoern.Giesler@gmx.de Organization: IPR Karlsruhe To: Martijn van Oosterhout , Bjoern.Giesler@gmx.de Subject: Re: Netgear MA301 works Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 11:28:11 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] Cc: Samba/Wavelan mailing list References: <20011115205535.A2711@svana.org> In-Reply-To: <20011115205535.A2711@svana.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_ZQ7UZX7CMA2ED9CZ1W2F" Message-Id: Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --------------Boundary-00=_ZQ7UZX7CMA2ED9CZ1W2F Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Am Donnerstag, 15. November 2001 10:55 schrieb Martijn van Oosterhout: > May I request you send the patch as a unified diff (-u). This patch > does not contain enough context to reliably patch the source. OK. Unified version attached. > I'm also concerned about the i386 specificness of the patch but someone > who knows about this can fix that. Hmm. Do you think changing the outl/inl to outb/inb would help? We're=20 only fiddling with bit 6 on the lowest byte anyway, and the endianness /=20 word order of the PCI bus is defined. > The zero address is not necessarily bad. Although the i386 architecture > does define a use for I/O addresses beginning with zero, this is not a > feature of PCI. > > Besides, ioremap fiddles the memory maps, it doesn't check whether what > you are trying to map actually exists. How would one check that > anyway... OK, so if pci_resource_start() is 0, that doesn't mean anything special?=20 Is it pci_resource_len() that is important? Where do the PCI resources=20 get set anyway? Regards, =09=09--Bj=F6rn --=20 =46rom the Computer Support Group's tech glossary: C++ A computer language based on C that uses objected-oriented programming (OOP) design principles. 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Do you think changing the outl/inl to outb/inb would help? We're > only fiddling with bit 6 on the lowest byte anyway, and the endianness / > word order of the PCI bus is defined. Actually, I'm referring to the fact that non-i386 architectures don't have in/out instructions, everything is memory-mapped. Like I said, I'm not sure how that's supposed to work. > OK, so if pci_resource_start() is 0, that doesn't mean anything special? > Is it pci_resource_len() that is important? Where do the PCI resources > get set anyway? Actually, now that you put it that way, yes. A zero field in the PCI table means that's it's not a valid address. Valid fields can never be set to zero (IIRC) due to the fact that read-only bits define various properties. PCI resources are usually set by the BIOS although they are in principle alterable on the fly by anyone. Nobody usually bothers since all that matters is that they don't overlap with anything else and the BIOS usually does that fine. But that's your responsibility to check. ioremap() has no real issue with the zero address and will happily map it. Am I going back on what I said earlier? -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Magnetism, electricity and motion are like a three-for-two special offer: > if you have two of them, the third one comes free. From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Thu Nov 15 09:56:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492604BCE for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 09:56:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id JAA26650 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 09:56:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id JAA19450 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 09:56:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 164Qko-0001mS-00 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 09:56:46 -0800 Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 09:56:46 -0800 To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re : 3com airconnect Message-ID: <20011115095646.E6757@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Ian wrote : > I have 2 of these cards, 1 an early model (3crwe737a-e1) with detachable > antenna, and a late model (3crwe73796b-e1) with a non-detachable antenna. > > I would like to use IBSS Ad-Hoc mode between these 2 cards, 1 on a windows > box (win95b), the other linux (slackware 8.0, 2.4.14, orinoco_cs 0.8a, > wireless_tools.22). The old card won't do IBSS, the firmware is not able to do it properly. You need to force Orinoco to use the old Ad-Hoc demo mode. Please check : http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Orinoco.html#issues Jean From richard@diddyland.com Thu Nov 15 11:10:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from marvin.nildram.co.uk (marvin.nildram.co.uk [195.112.4.71]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D1E8F4273 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 11:10:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 4564 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2001 19:10:40 -0000 Received: from jardino.gotadsl.co.uk (HELO there) (213.208.117.74) by marvin.nildram.co.uk with SMTP; 15 Nov 2001 19:10:40 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: dids To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Orinoco Silver and hermes etc. still didnt get it to work Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 19:13:08 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20011115191028.D1E8F4273@lists.samba.org> Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I just wondered if there was any further thoughts on why my Orinoco kept hanging with the orinoco and hermes stuff. I got round the problem in the end by downloading the wavelan2_cs stuff from wavelan, and that works fine. But its been annoying me that I couldnt get the hermes driver working dids From prator@hotmail.com Thu Nov 15 14:50:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from hotmail.com (f30.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A416B4B00 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 14:50:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 14:50:27 -0800 Received: from 139.95.251.1 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 22:50:27 GMT X-Originating-IP: [139.95.251.1] From: "Ken Ledbetter" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Need DWL-500/650 Help Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:50:27 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Nov 2001 22:50:27.0472 (UTC) FILETIME=[EB5EC100:01C16E27] Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I'm seem to be getting to the "bang my head against the wall" stage that a lot of people get to with this card. I'm using 2.4.14 with kernel PCMCIA disabled and wireless support enabled. I installed: pcmcia-cs-3.1.29 wireless_tools.21 I seem to have gotten the DWL-500 to work correctly. I added PCIC_OPTS="irq_mode=0" to my pcmcia init file. I edited /etc/pcmcia/config to load the orinoco_cs driver. I disabled wireless.opts so that I could manually setup the card, and I put my network settings in network.opts. Whenever I insert the card, everything looks ok (I'm not at home to post my log, but I can when I get home) until I get this line: /etc/hotplug/net.agent: register event not handled However, it looks like my network settings get put in correctly as eth2. Then I try to set the wireless options with iwconfig. When I try to do "iwconfig eth2 mode ad-hoc", the box locks up on me 9 out of 10 times. The tenth time it will lock up when I try to ping an external address on the wireless network. The box starts to work again when I eject the card. Any ideas or any more info I can provide? Thanks, Ken _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dgibson@samba.org Thu Nov 15 15:44:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id 1EEEF5302; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 15:44:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1904 10:32:42 +1000 From: David Gibson To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: Netgear MA301 works Message-ID: <19040101103242.A673@zax> Mail-Followup-To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list References: <20011115205535.A2711@svana.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 11:28:11AM +0100, Bjoern Giesler wrote: > Hi, > > Am Donnerstag, 15. November 2001 10:55 schrieb Martijn van Oosterhout: > > May I request you send the patch as a unified diff (-u). This patch > > does not contain enough context to reliably patch the source. > > OK. Unified version attached. Thanks. I've applied the patch to my testing tree. Could you tell me where you found the PLX9052 data book that you refer to? -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From dgibson@samba.org Thu Nov 15 15:44:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id 328EE426C; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 15:44:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1904 10:36:09 +1000 From: David Gibson To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: Netgear MA301 works Message-ID: <19040101103609.B673@zax> Mail-Followup-To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 10:08:49AM +0100, Bjoern Giesler wrote: > Hi, > > *phew* finally. I got my MA301 working under Linux with the orinoco_plx > driver. I use a Lucent/WaveLAN Silver card. The fix was indeed fiddling > with the PLX's Interrupt Enable register. Patch (to orinoco-0.08b, from > David Gibson's testing directory) attached; it's very small. I haven't > tried any encryption, and only Ad-Hoc mode; still, I watched a DivX movie > across the wireless link last night, which suggests it's quite stable. > One issue remains: On rmmod, some things obviously get corrupted in > kernel memory (try cat /proc/interrupts; produces garbage on my machine). > I'll look into that. > > But I have a (perhaps PCI-related) question. The PLX's PCI base address > registers theoretically have the first one (resource 0) point to > memory-accessable memory and the second one (resource 1) point to > IO-accessable memory; apart from the access method, both should allow the > same local configuration access (see p8-1 of the PLX data book for > reference). > > Now, the first one points to 0; accordingly, pci_resource_start(dev, 0) > returns 0x0. So that probably means that no memory access is possible to > the local config. So far, so good; if we're supposed to do inb/outb, we > can. But if I don't check for 0-ness of that address, and just pass it to > ioremap(), I get a valid adress back! (Which is, of course, bogus -- I > don't want to know whose driver space I fiddled with when that happened > to me.) Is this by design, or is it a bug in ioremap()? ioremap() has no way to tell that the address is invalid - it doesn't understand PCI itself. It will just set up a virtual mapping to the specified physical address. Physical address zero will probably correspond to the beginning of RAM. -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From dgibson@samba.org Thu Nov 15 15:44:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id 820E153A1; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 15:44:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1904 10:52:29 +1000 From: David Gibson To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: Netgear MA301 works Message-ID: <19040101105229.C673@zax> Mail-Followup-To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list References: <20011115205535.A2711@svana.org> <20011115213305.B2711@svana.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011115213305.B2711@svana.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 09:33:05PM +1100, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 11:28:11AM +0100, Bjoern Giesler wrote: > > > I'm also concerned about the i386 specificness of the patch but someone > > > who knows about this can fix that. > > > > Hmm. Do you think changing the outl/inl to outb/inb would help? We're > > only fiddling with bit 6 on the lowest byte anyway, and the endianness / > > word order of the PCI bus is defined. > > Actually, I'm referring to the fact that non-i386 architectures don't have > in/out instructions, everything is memory-mapped. Like I said, I'm not sure > how that's supposed to work. That's ok. On non-x86 platforms the PCI/ISA io space will generally be mapped to some part of memory, and the in/out functions in the kernel will become accesses to that region. They'll even byte-swap appropriately. hermes.c uses inw()/outw() throughout to access the card's registers. -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From giesler@ira.uka.de Thu Nov 15 23:49:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from iraun2.uka.de (iraun2.uka.de [129.13.10.91]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C765D53FF for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2001 23:49:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from irams1.ira.uka.de ([129.13.10.5]) by iraun2.uka.de with esmtp (Exim 3.30 #7 (Debian)) id 164dkY-0005Bo-00; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 08:49:22 +0100 Received: from i61nb8.ira.uka.de ([129.13.17.18] helo=there) by irams1.ira.uka.de with smtp (Exim 3.30 #7 (Debian)) id 164dkX-00039K-00; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 08:49:21 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Bjoern Giesler Reply-To: Bjoern.Giesler@gmx.de Organization: IPR Karlsruhe To: David Gibson , Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: Netgear MA301 works Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 08:51:27 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: <19040101103242.A673@zax> In-Reply-To: <19040101103242.A673@zax> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, Am Donnerstag, 1. Januar 1970 01:00 schrieb David Gibson: > Thanks. I've applied the patch to my testing tree. Could you tell me > where you found the PLX9052 data book that you refer to? Err. At PLX's web site, www.plxtech.com. The complete URL is http://www.plxtech.com/products/9050.htm It has lots of information on the 9050 and 9052 series chips. Regards, =09=09--Bj=F6rn From jpc1@owl.doc.ic.ac.uk Fri Nov 16 04:04:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from duck.doc.ic.ac.uk (duck.doc.ic.ac.uk [146.169.1.46]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF925440 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 04:04:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from owl.doc.ic.ac.uk ([146.169.1.44] ident=root) by duck.doc.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #7) id 164hjn-0001lO-00 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:04:51 +0000 Received: (from jpc1@localhost) by owl.doc.ic.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.8.8) id fAGC4pm17133 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:04:51 GMT From: Justin Cormack Message-Id: <200111161204.fAGC4pm17133@owl.doc.ic.ac.uk> Subject: non carbus Prism II cards To: wireless@lists.samba.org Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:04:51 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL5] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Can anyone let me know of any non-Cardbus Prism II pcmcia cards? I need prism II to do bridging under Linux And I have some Compaq WL100s, but they turn out to be cardbus, and wont go in my embedded machines. And I cannot find a PC/104+ cardbus adaptor anywhere. thanks Justin From artreyu@verinux.com Fri Nov 16 04:28:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from golbat.metro.net.id (golbat.metro.net.id [202.153.224.26]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C9A4424A for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 04:28:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from w (ADSL-230-9.metro.net.id [202.153.230.9]) by golbat.metro.net.id (Switch-2.0.0/Switch-2.0.0) with SMTP id fAGCdSu00978 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 19:39:28 +0700 From: "Artreyu" To: "Samba/Wavelan mailing list" Subject: Wavelan problem - Error -19 Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 19:27:54 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20011115213305.B2711@svana.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I have 3 remote node and 1 Base Station using avaya pcmcia card and all of them using slackware 8.0 with kernel 2.4.13 with module orinoco_cs loaded. The problem I got is when the traffic is very heavy my card get dead and all the nodes could not transmit any data until I reset the card in Base Station (using iwpriv xxx card_reset). here are the error messages in my syslog Nov 16 18:52:41 vs-vwave-gw kernel: eth3: Error -19 transmitting packet Nov 16 18:52:41 vs-vwave-gw kernel: hermes @ 0x100: Card removed while issuing command. ....... or these error messages: Nov 16 19:01:44 vs-vwave-gw kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth3: transmit timed out Nov 16 19:01:44 vs-vwave-gw kernel: eth3: Tx timeout! Resetting card. Nov 16 19:01:46 vs-vwave-gw kernel: eth3: Oversized frame received (53160 bytes) and keep going for thousand of lines. until I send command "iwpriv xxx card_reset". and after about 36 hours of operation, my Linux box (base station) just hang and I have to reboot it. How do I fix this problems ? and is there any relation between error and "hidden transmitter" ? because each nodes could not ping the other node directly, except Base Station. they have to go through Base Station. (I set base station as Internet gateway and router). If I use Access Point does it will be solve the problem? Sorry for my bad english. English is my second language. Regards, Indra From dgibson@samba.org Fri Nov 16 06:17:09 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id 386AC536B; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 06:17:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 01:17:13 +1100 From: David Gibson To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: Netgear MA301 works Message-ID: <20011117011713.B12763@zax> Mail-Followup-To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list References: <19040101103242.A673@zax> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 08:51:27AM +0100, Bjoern Giesler wrote: > Hi, > Am Donnerstag, 1. Januar 1970 01:00 schrieb David Gibson: > > Thanks. I've applied the patch to my testing tree. Could you tell me > > where you found the PLX9052 data book that you refer to? > > Err. At PLX's web site, www.plxtech.com. The complete URL is > > http://www.plxtech.com/products/9050.htm > > It has lots of information on the 9050 and 9052 series chips. Believe it or not, several web searches on "PLX9052" have failed to find that for me. -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From agd5f@yahoo.com Fri Nov 16 07:36:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from web11301.mail.yahoo.com (web11301.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.204]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B87E5470 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 07:36:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011116153614.19481.qmail@web11301.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [153.39.171.230] by web11301.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 07:36:14 PST Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 07:36:14 -0800 (PST) From: Alex Deucher Subject: non carbus Prism II cards To: jpc1@doc.ic.ac.uk Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: As far as I know there are no cardbus prism II cards. They are all regular pcmcia. Lots of manufacturers seem to say that their cards are cardbus, but I've yet to see one that is. the d-link and linksys prism II cards are regualr pcmcia and work fine in a non-cardbus PCIC. Cardbus cars have special gold bars above the connector to differentiate them from regular pcmcia. Alex ------------------------------ Can anyone let me know of any non-Cardbus Prism II pcmcia cards? I need prism II to do bridging under Linux And I have some Compaq WL100s, but they turn out to be cardbus, and wont go in my embedded machines. And I cannot find a PC/104+ cardbus adaptor anywhere. thanks Justin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com From jpc1@owl.doc.ic.ac.uk Fri Nov 16 07:52:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from duck.doc.ic.ac.uk (duck.doc.ic.ac.uk [146.169.1.46]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DACCA424F for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 07:52:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from owl.doc.ic.ac.uk ([146.169.1.44] ident=root) by duck.doc.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #7) id 164lII-0006SS-00; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 15:52:42 +0000 Received: (from jpc1@localhost) by owl.doc.ic.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.8.8) id fAGFqhS04037; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 15:52:43 GMT From: Justin Cormack Message-Id: <200111161552.fAGFqhS04037@owl.doc.ic.ac.uk> Subject: Re: non carbus Prism II cards To: agd5f@yahoo.com (Alex Deucher) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 15:52:43 +0000 (GMT) Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org In-Reply-To: from "Alex Deucher" at Nov 16, 2001 07:36:14 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL5] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Maybe they are 32 bit pcmcia then. On the insertion end the Compaq ones have on the right hand side (when face up) a large notch, while old wavelan cards have a small notch (the same size as the 2 on the left hand side). And this wont fit in my slot. You are right its not cardbus, cos it goes in the Ipaq (though it is true a hacked out parts of the pcmcia adaptor in that). Justin > > As far as I know there are no cardbus prism II cards. > They are all regular pcmcia. Lots of manufacturers > seem to say that their cards are cardbus, but I've yet > to see one that is. the d-link and linksys prism II > cards are regualr pcmcia and work fine in a > non-cardbus PCIC. Cardbus cars have special gold bars > above the connector to differentiate them from regular > pcmcia. > > Alex > > ------------------------------ > > Can anyone let me know of any non-Cardbus Prism II > pcmcia cards? > > I need prism II to do bridging under Linux > > And I have some Compaq WL100s, but they turn out to be > cardbus, and wont go > in my embedded machines. > > And I cannot find a PC/104+ cardbus adaptor anywhere. > > thanks > > Justin > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals > http://personals.yahoo.com > From kleptog@svana.org Fri Nov 16 20:04:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E774125 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 20:04:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 164wj3-0002Fc-00; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 15:05:05 +1100 Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 15:05:05 +1100 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: Wireless List Subject: Mixed success with new MA301 (orinoco_plx) code Message-ID: <20011117150505.C8154@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Summary for all those people who don't want to read it all: The MA301 (PLX-based card) seems to work now although it appears that the testing version of David's driver (Nov 12) may have broken something on one of my two cards. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, I finally got around to testing out the patch posted a few days ago and while it's an improvement, it's not quite there yet. The code I used was pulled from David's ozlabs page (which seems to be gone right now) out the of testing directory on Nov 12. The patch didn't apply cleanly to the 0.08a version available as a tarball. First thing, interrupts now seem to work (yay!). > cat /proc/interrupts | grep eth2 11: 416 XT-PIC eth2 That's about one for each transmitted packet. I'm running a ping from both ends. However, receiving packets still seems to be an issue. Here is a tcpdump from the end with the PLX card (192.168.15.148) with an Orinoco Silver: # tcpdump -i eth2 -n tcpdump: listening on eth2 Nov 17 14:39:07 kleptog kernel: eth2: Multicast list longer than mc_count. Nov 17 14:39:07 kleptog kernel: device eth2 entered promiscuous mode 14:39:07.725128 arp who-has 192.168.15.17 tell 192.168.15.148 14:39:08.725171 arp who-has 192.168.15.17 tell 192.168.15.148 And this is from my laptop (192.168.15.17) with an MA401: # tcpdump -i eth1 -n tcpdump: listening on eth1 Nov 17 14:37:54 vali kernel: eth1: Multicast list longer than mc_count. Nov 17 14:37:54 vali kernel: device eth1 entered promiscuous mode 14:37:54.686084 arp who-has 192.168.15.17 tell 192.168.15.148 14:37:54.686115 arp reply 192.168.15.17 is-at 0:30:ab:c:9:16 14:37:54.906034 192.168.15.17 > 192.168.15.148: icmp: echo request (DF) 14:37:55.686096 arp who-has 192.168.15.17 tell 192.168.15.148 14:37:55.686125 arp reply 192.168.15.17 is-at 0:30:ab:c:9:16 14:37:55.906068 192.168.15.17 > 192.168.15.148: icmp: echo request (DF) So my laptop is receiving the packets sent, but the replies are not being received by the other end. Also, this error pops up on the PLX end every now and then: Nov 17 14:31:01 kleptog kernel: eth2: Unable to determine current bitrate (0x0002) OK, now I'm repeating the tests but with the cards swapped, so now the MA401 is in the PLX card and the Orinoco Silver is in the laptop. Guess what. It may not be the PLX card at all. Now the desktop with PLX card is showing: # tcpdump -i eth2 -n tcpdump: listening on eth2 14:53:26.125100 192.168.15.148 > 192.168.15.17: icmp: echo request (DF) 14:53:26.220596 arp who-has 192.168.15.148 tell 192.168.15.17 14:53:26.220642 arp reply 192.168.15.148 is-at 0:30:ab:c:9:16 And the laptop is showing: # tcpdump -i eth1 -n tcpdump: listening on eth1 14:52:02.125895 arp who-has 192.168.15.148 tell 192.168.15.17 14:52:03.126100 arp who-has 192.168.15.148 tell 192.168.15.17 The PLX card machine still shows: Nov 17 14:52:27 kleptog kernel: eth2: Unable to determine current bitrate (0x0002) So they may still be a problem with the PLX card still but it doesn't seem to hurt anything. I'm now going to trying some other stuff, maybe backporting the patch a few versions to see if I can isolate the fault. HTH, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Magnetism, electricity and motion are like a three-for-two special offer: > if you have two of them, the third one comes free. From jas@pcguru.com.au Sat Nov 17 08:03:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from swami.pcguru.com.au (swami.pcguru.com.au [203.59.228.98]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A16460C for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 08:03:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from pcguru.com.au (IDENT:/sqHugIlrvF6NhY7x83ZjoWS4EPbg127@jas.pcguru.com.au [192.168.0.2]) by swami.pcguru.com.au (8.11.6/8.11.6/dsb-1.1) with SMTP id fAHG3Ag05425 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 00:03:43 +0800 Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 00:03:10 +0800 From: Jason Jordan To: Wireless List Subject: Wireless Bridging Message-Id: <20011118000310.66e4e1a4.jas@pcguru.com.au> Organization: Ray Martin has odd hair. I suspect Aliens are somehow involved. X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.5claws17 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-Face: )]tS!&`e.~o!,%E7v0,FVAfelGLC=^Q=m,2zK@>_6Fh1h"eQz~~}Xt,@H(Kw|_"UmH#SZ4O?6d8\EDfl?k=j4`*;F%Zt(9YT X-message-flag: Fatal Error. Please reboot your system. X-Todays-Stupid-InJoke: All Your Base Are Belong To Us X-Pre-Empt-Wife-Yes-Dear: Put the Cheese Away Jason Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I was having a bit of a quiet ponder on how to turn this IBM Stinkpad I have sitting here doing not very much into an access point of sorts. I've already been able to get it to route using the one wireless card by doing some geeky magic with ip subnetting and a virtual interface. It works but tastes bad. Then I remembered the bridge software - a quick dejagoogle later, testing fails miserably because it sees the real interface and virtual interface as having the same mac address. Being a tad naive, I then tried to issue an "ifconfig ether hw xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx" against the virtual interface with no luck. Yes, I too thought that was the end of a possible winner. Then I remembered VMWare and Plex86. Somehow they both manage to do "virtual" bridging. So it does appear to be possible. I'm not sure what black arts are involved but at least I know it can be done. Has anyone looked at this? If not - hopefully there are some users on this list that may get an idea from my travels and could leverage off the GPLed code in Plex86 to help us all get our Orinoco cards to function as bridges and therefore act as cheaper and feature-depleted AP's. -- cheers, jas e3 - Perth's own Wireless Freenet -- http://www.e3.com.au -- "To misattribute a quote is unforgivable" - Unknown ------------------------------------------------------------ Copyright Asserted. http://www.pcguru.com.au/copyright.html From Alfred.Reynolds@dsto.defence.gov.au Sun Nov 18 13:52:22 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D82D84128 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:52:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id fAILpbF12272 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:21:37 +1030 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:22:14 +1030 Received: from salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au (salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.9]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id IAA12390; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:17:04 +1030 (CST) Received: from fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au ([144.97.171.1]) by salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id WPPCZBHJ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:17:00 +1030 Received: by fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4WMNSW6Q>; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:46:53 +1100 Message-ID: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C065C211@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> From: "Reynolds, Alfred" To: "'Jason Jordan'" , Wireless List Subject: RE: Wireless Bridging Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:46:52 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Perhaps proxy ARP would be a better solution for you? You can also look at the kernel ethernet bridging patches, but they are probably not what you need. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Jordan [mailto:jas@pcguru.com.au] > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 3:03 AM > To: Wireless List > Subject: Wireless Bridging > > > I was having a bit of a quiet ponder on how to turn this IBM > Stinkpad I have sitting > here doing not very much into an access point of sorts. > > I've already been able to get it to route using the one > wireless card by doing some > geeky magic with ip subnetting and a virtual interface. It > works but tastes bad. > > Then I remembered the bridge software - a quick dejagoogle > later, testing fails > miserably because it sees the real interface and virtual > interface as having > the same mac address. > > Being a tad naive, I then tried to issue an "ifconfig ether > hw xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx" > against the virtual interface with no luck. > > Yes, I too thought that was the end of a possible winner. > > Then I remembered VMWare and Plex86. Somehow they both manage to > do "virtual" bridging. So it does appear to be possible. > I'm not sure what > black arts are involved but at least I know it can be done. > > Has anyone looked at this? If not - hopefully there are some > users on this list > that may get an idea from my travels and could leverage off > the GPLed code in > Plex86 to help us all get our Orinoco cards to function as > bridges and therefore > act as cheaper and feature-depleted AP's. > > -- > cheers, jas > e3 - Perth's own Wireless Freenet -- http://www.e3.com.au -- > "To misattribute a quote is unforgivable" - Unknown > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Copyright Asserted. http://www.pcguru.com.au/copyright.html > From ant@sa.pracom.com.au Sun Nov 18 17:16:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from foghorn.steadycom.com.au (foghorn.steadycom.com.au [203.38.128.193]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8DD411A for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 17:16:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from ant.internal (ant [10.0.0.53]) by foghorn.steadycom.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21706; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:46:19 +1030 Subject: Re: non carbus Prism II cards From: Anthony Symons To: Justin Cormack Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org In-Reply-To: <200111161204.fAGC4pm17133@owl.doc.ic.ac.uk> References: <200111161204.fAGC4pm17133@owl.doc.ic.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/0.99.1+cvs.2001.11.07.16.47 (Preview Release) Date: 19 Nov 2001 11:46:03 +1030 Message-Id: <1006132583.29250.28.camel@ant.internal> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I dont know this for sure, but from looking at a scan of a dlink wireless prism2 card, it was basically just the prism 2 chip, so I guess the bus (pcmcia or whatever) is on the prism II chipset and this is why they are all the same. Ant On Fri, 2001-11-16 at 22:34, Justin Cormack wrote: > Can anyone let me know of any non-Cardbus Prism II pcmcia cards? > > I need prism II to do bridging under Linux > > And I have some Compaq WL100s, but they turn out to be cardbus, and wont go > in my embedded machines. > > And I cannot find a PC/104+ cardbus adaptor anywhere. > > thanks > > Justin > -- Systems Administrator Pracom Ltd. +61 8 82029074 -=- +61 402 100 671 anthony.symons@sa.pracom.com.au PRIVILEGED - PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL This electronic mail is solely for the use of the addressee and may contain information which is confidential or privileged. If you receive this electronic mail in error, please delete it from your system immediately and notify the sender by electronic mail or using any of the above contact details. From dgibson@samba.org Sun Nov 18 19:52:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id 804AE435F; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:52:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:16:07 +1100 From: David Gibson To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: Wavelan problem - Error -19 Message-ID: <20011119141607.D27688@zax> Mail-Followup-To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list References: <20011115213305.B2711@svana.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 07:27:54PM +0700, Artreyu wrote: > I have 3 remote node and 1 Base Station using avaya pcmcia card and all of > them using slackware 8.0 with kernel 2.4.13 with module orinoco_cs loaded. > The problem I got is when the traffic is very heavy my card get dead and all > the nodes could not transmit any data until I reset the card in Base Station > (using iwpriv xxx card_reset). > > here are the error messages in my syslog > > Nov 16 18:52:41 vs-vwave-gw kernel: eth3: Error -19 transmitting packet > Nov 16 18:52:41 vs-vwave-gw kernel: hermes @ 0x100: Card removed while > issuing command. > ....... > or these error messages: > Nov 16 19:01:44 vs-vwave-gw kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth3: transmit timed > out > Nov 16 19:01:44 vs-vwave-gw kernel: eth3: Tx timeout! Resetting card. > Nov 16 19:01:46 vs-vwave-gw kernel: eth3: Oversized frame received (53160 > bytes) > > and keep going for thousand of lines. until I send command "iwpriv xxx > card_reset". > > and after about 36 hours of operation, my Linux box (base station) just hang > and I have to reboot it. There seems to be a problem with the firmware on these cards - under high loads it falls over and the card needs a reset. Currently we don't correctly detect this situation and reset the card properly. Jouni Malinen has recently done some work tracking down the problem, but we don't have a really good fix yet. > How do I fix this problems ? > > and is there any relation between error and "hidden transmitter" ? > because each nodes could not ping the other node directly, except Base > Station. > they have to go through Base Station. (I set base station as Internet > gateway and router). > If I use Access Point does it will be solve the problem? No, probably not. -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From ld@stud.fh-muenchen.de Mon Nov 19 08:22:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from server.intern.stud.fh-muenchen.de (unknown [141.39.248.60]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F9684CC9 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:15:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ws1.intern.stud.fh-muenchen.de (ws1.intern.stud.fh-muenchen.de [192.168.61.20]) by server.intern.stud.fh-muenchen.de (8.12.1/Pro) with ESMTP id fAJGEhuL010357 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:14:43 +0100 Subject: Orino Silver / Orinoco AP-1000 From: Lars Duesing To: wireless@lists.samba.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/0.99.2 (Preview Release) Date: 19 Nov 2001 17:15:01 +0100 Message-Id: <1006186501.15919.5.camel@ws1.intern.stud.fh-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi list, I've got serious troubles using the orinoc_cs-driver to connect an Orinoco Silver card to the Orinoco AP-1000. Sometimes connection works (very rare), mostly it doesn't connect. I've tried with newest kernel (2.2.15-pre6) and newest wireless-tools (22). But it keeps not working. The best is - if I use a Siemens ISurf-Card everything works - plugging in, connecting, getting DHCP-ACK, Network is there. Very strange. any help? Lars Duesing Students' Office, Munich University of Applied Sciences -- ====================================================================== This mail may contain private and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please discard this mail immediately. Any unauthorized use of the information in this mail is prohibited by international law. From nicola76@inwind.it Tue Nov 20 00:53:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailrelay3.inwind.it (mailrelay3.inwind.it [212.141.54.103]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D9D46DE for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 00:53:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from matteonicola (62.98.109.145) by mailrelay3.inwind.it (5.5.029) id 3BDECF6500858576 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:53:45 +0100 Message-ID: <001c01c171a1$0fa17f40$916d623e@matteonicola> From: "Nicola76" To: Subject: Orinoco information Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:55:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01C171A9.70DFA040" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Messaggio in formato MIME composto da più parti. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C171A9.70DFA040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good day, my name is Nicola Morelli and come from Italy. I'm working in my = university in project involved in wireless sensor. We want to build a = BSS with two client and an AP or a more simpler Ad-Hoc network. But the = client card must be embedded with sensor and microcontroller board that = allow them to comunicate. I need all documentation that tell how = interface on PCMCIA port and how to write and read data, in practice i = need datasheet and device driver manual. I have all this material from = Intersil for PRISM2 chipset but we have in university only Orinono card = (they don't buy prism2 card because are out of money!) From Agere or = Lucent i haven't received response, i hope in linux assistance... PLEASE send a response, kind regards, Nicola Morelli University of Brescia, ITALY=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C171A9.70DFA040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Good day,
 my name is Nicola = Morelli and=20 come from Italy. I'm working in my university in project involved in = wireless=20 sensor. We want to build a BSS with two client and an AP or a more = simpler=20 Ad-Hoc network. But the client card must be embedded with sensor and=20 microcontroller board that allow them to comunicate. I need all=20 documentation that tell how interface on PCMCIA port and how to write = and read=20 data, in practice i need datasheet and device driver manual. I have all = this=20 material from Intersil for PRISM2 chipset but we have in university only = Orinono=20 card (they don't buy prism2 card  because are out of money!) From = Agere or=20 Lucent i haven't received response, i hope in linux = assistance...
PLEASE send=20 a response, kind regards,
 
Nicola Morelli
University of = Brescia, ITALY=20
------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C171A9.70DFA040-- From paleface@ioi.dk Tue Nov 20 01:05:36 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from beast.ioi.dk (ns.ioi.dk [62.243.244.250]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E254E4C for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:05:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from paleface by beast.ioi.dk with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 1666qQ-0002ZZ-00 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:05:30 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:05:30 +0100 From: Jacob Gorm Hansen To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Success with Airport card and Netgear ME102 in Ibook2 Message-ID: <20011120100530.A9708@ioi.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, this one is for the archives ;-) Just wanted to let everyone know that my ibook2 with airport card started working with the Netgear ME102 access point yesterday. I'm not sure how I suddently made it work, perhaps the latest 2.4.15 kernel from benh made it happen. At about the same time I received email from Netgear tech support saying the airport was not supported (aka not tested yet)... Haven't tried WEP or anything fancy yet though. Best, Jacob From gregor.ibic@intelicom.si Thu Nov 22 13:38:23 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.intelicom.si (unknown [213.250.27.252]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F06D549D4 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:38:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 1420 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2001 21:43:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO miska) (10.1.12.15) by 10.1.10.10 with SMTP; 22 Nov 2001 21:43:20 -0000 From: "Gregor Ibic" To: Subject: Wireless extension error Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:43:31 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: <1006186501.15919.5.camel@ws1.intern.stud.fh-muenchen.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi! I have a working system with Roambout cards. I was using Kernel 2.4.9 and I switched to 2.4.14. It works also with new kernel but I get this error when I run iwconfig Warning : Device eth1 has been compiled with version 12 of Wireless Extension, while we are using version 11. Some things may be broken... Before I didn't get this error but I also never get the Link quality and other statistics. They were all zeros, always. What must I do to get iwconfig work properly and also get the statistics? Regards, Gregor Intelicom d.o.o. Security software company http://www.intelicom.si email: info@intelicom.si From sekure@gmx.co.uk Thu Nov 22 16:32:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from pasarel.neeraj.org (unknown [212.54.118.56]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92FA7543C for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:32:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by pasarel.neeraj.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3DD3830DF3; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 02:29:57 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pasarel.neeraj.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3673F30DF2; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 02:29:57 +0200 (EET) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 02:29:57 +0200 (EET) From: Rijdnal Groeber X-X-Sender: To: Gregor Ibic Cc: Subject: Re: Wireless extension error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Gregor Ibic wrote: > Warning : Device eth1 has been compiled with version 12 > of Wireless Extension, while we are using version 11. > Some things may be broken... [snip] > What must I do to get iwconfig work properly and also get the statistics? The message is rather self-explanatory: get the new wireless tools package and re-compile. http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/wireless_tools.22.tar.gz -- sekure at gmx dot co dot uk .include 'send pgp key' in the subject to get my pgp key "All I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power" - Ashleigh Brilliant From gregor.ibic@intelicom.si Thu Nov 22 23:54:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.intelicom.si (unknown [213.250.27.252]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 206154566 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:54:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 2613 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2001 07:59:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO miska) (10.1.12.15) by 10.1.10.10 with SMTP; 23 Nov 2001 07:59:11 -0000 From: "Gregor Ibic" To: Subject: RE: Wireless extension error Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 08:59:24 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I tried to recompile, but I get a bunch of errors with header mismatch probably. I copied the header to /src/include like the docs said, but no difference in compiling. I checked the header of the (wireless.h) kernel and it state that it is a version 12 . Also tried to compile 23 beta and 21 and 20, always the same. also installed a precompiled version of 22 but it is the same error that I get from iwconfig. If I downgrade to precompiled 20 I get a core dump. So, any clues? Regards, Gregor Intelicom d.o.o. Security software company http://www.intelicom.si email: info@intelicom.si -----Original Message----- From: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org [mailto:wireless-admin@lists.samba.org]On Behalf Of Rijdnal Groeber Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 1:30 AM To: Gregor Ibic Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Wireless extension error On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Gregor Ibic wrote: > Warning : Device eth1 has been compiled with version 12 > of Wireless Extension, while we are using version 11. > Some things may be broken... [snip] > What must I do to get iwconfig work properly and also get the statistics? The message is rather self-explanatory: get the new wireless tools package and re-compile. http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/wireless_tools.22.tar.g z -- sekure at gmx dot co dot uk .include 'send pgp key' in the subject to get my pgp key "All I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power" - Ashleigh Brilliant From artreyu@verinux.com Fri Nov 23 01:11:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from golbat.metro.net.id (golbat.metro.net.id [202.153.224.26]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D474426F for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:11:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from w (ADSL-230-9.metro.net.id [202.153.230.9]) by golbat.metro.net.id (Switch-2.0.0/Switch-2.0.0) with SMTP id fAN9Lru01196 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:21:58 +0700 From: "Artreyu" To: Subject: RE: Wireless extension error Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:10:05 +0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-reply-to: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > I tried to recompile, but I get a bunch of errors with header mismatch > probably. > I copied the header to /src/include like the docs said, but no difference in > compiling. here is what I did, rename /usr/include/netinet/in.h to other name copy /usr/include/linux/in.h to /usr/include/netinet/in.h ..deleted.. hope this helps artreyu From gregor.ibic@intelicom.si Fri Nov 23 04:35:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.intelicom.si (unknown [213.250.27.252]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F19B344F4 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 04:35:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 3186 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2001 12:40:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO miska) (10.1.12.15) by 10.1.10.10 with SMTP; 23 Nov 2001 12:40:02 -0000 From: "Gregor Ibic" To: Subject: RE: Wireless extension error Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 13:40:15 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Ok i solved it. Had to modify the Makefile to use RH 7.1 type headers and copy the wireless.h from /usr/linux/include/linux to /usr/include/linux Why are so many places for headers? Intelicom d.o.o. Security software company http://www.intelicom.si email: info@intelicom.si tel.: ++386 5 6309 158 fax.: ++386 5 6279 355 -----Original Message----- From: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org [mailto:wireless-admin@lists.samba.org]On Behalf Of Artreyu Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 10:10 AM To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: Wireless extension error > I tried to recompile, but I get a bunch of errors with header mismatch > probably. > I copied the header to /src/include like the docs said, but no difference in > compiling. here is what I did, rename /usr/include/netinet/in.h to other name copy /usr/include/linux/in.h to /usr/include/netinet/in.h ..deleted.. hope this helps artreyu From gregor.ibic@intelicom.si Fri Nov 23 04:41:09 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.intelicom.si (unknown [213.250.27.252]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 99C1544F4 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 04:41:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 3210 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2001 12:46:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO miska) (10.1.12.15) by 10.1.10.10 with SMTP; 23 Nov 2001 12:46:02 -0000 From: "Gregor Ibic" To: Subject: Another problem - conection Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 13:46:15 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I have a pretty working connection with Roamabout cards and using 2.4.14 and 2.4.9 kernel. BUT! I happens that I have my installation near some other installation, probably AirConnect (Cisco), that makes my connection unusable time to time. During working hours I have a real drop in performance and I think that the other guys are using my wirelles resources, probably on the same channel. I tried to switch the channel but it is not working properly. If I use Ad-Hoc mode, the cards go to some standard channel, channel 10 I presume. If I try to make them work on IBBS protocol, they do not connect to each other. So how can I use Ad-hoc on some specific channel, or is there any other trick to make the connection more reliable. Regards, Gregor Intelicom d.o.o. Security software company http://www.intelicom.si email: info@intelicom.si From rhardy@webcon.net Sat Nov 24 20:47:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from thor.webcon.net (wsp597687wss.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.112.232.89]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33CC14113; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 20:47:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rhardy@localhost) by thor.webcon.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAP4l3r07646; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 23:47:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: thor.webcon.net: rhardy owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 23:47:01 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Hardy To: wireless@lists.samba.org, , Subject: Orinoco driver lockups Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Back on Linux Kernel 2.2.x I used the Lucent binary drivers for my Orinoco wireless NIC on my firewall and it was rock solid. Getting a fucntional stable driver under a 2.4.x kernel is proving to be a challenge. Since the Lucent binary drivers don't work under 2.4.x (they transmit one packet and then unload the driver!?), I'm forced to use Orinoco.o. Your help debugging what seems to be a problem with the Orinoco driver would be appreciated. I started using the Orinoco driver when I upgraded to 2.4.x. Historically it has worked however it required a pcmcia restart for every 3-4 hours of use. That is annoying but is also good exercise (my server is two floors away.) Recently however my firewall has started locking up solid while using the wireless NIC. I've tried to isolate the problem, I'm pretty sure it has something to do with orinoco_reset() function however debugging it is proving to be very nasty. I've tested kernels using 2.4.13 to 15 including various pre kernels. I've tried orinoco 0.08a and 0.08b. My colleague and I are not new to the Linux scene. The problem exists on both our firewalls. Both of which are well pamped UPS protected stable systems (no overclocking etc.) My colleague has a different carbus bridge, a single slot one which Lucent sold him. Mine is a third party two slot. There seem to be two failure modes: 1. System locks solid with no warning 2. System gets a kernel oops in an unrelated process "Unable to handle kernel paging request". I've seen the following processes listed in kernel oops: swapper, tail (from me tailing debug & messages) Common symptoms: -All lockups happened while the wireless NIC is in use. -More traffic means increased chance of lockup Testing environment: I've got a pair of Orinoco 802.11b Wireless NICs. One is in a Sager notebook running Windoze 98 and the other is a Linux 2.4.x based box on a Abit BP6 with a pair of Celeron CPU & 512M of RAM. The card-bus bridge in use is a PCI based two slot id'ed as: PCI bus 0x0 cardnum 0x11 function 0x0001: vendor 0x104c device 0xac1c Texas Instruments PCI1225. Simple process to reproduce the problem: 1. Recompile the driver with ORINOCO_DEBUG >= 4 2. cd /var/log; tail -f debug -f messages 3. Start a large file transfer from the Linux box to the Windows box. I have been using a drivers folder which contains about 800 files totaling 250M. 4. On the server console: ping -f notebook 5. Within a minute the server will be locked solid. Everything will die including sys-request key. I've got these modules loaded: orinoco_cs 4320 1 orinoco 29664 0 [orinoco_cs] hermes 3184 0 [orinoco_cs orinoco] ds 6432 2 [orinoco_cs] yenta_socket 8368 2 pcmcia_core 37088 0 [orinoco_cs ds yenta_socket] Here is a hand transcribed kernel oops with max ORINOCO_DEBUG: Code: 8b 43 08 8b 80 90 00 00 00 85 c0 74 11 8b 40 34 85 c0 74 0a <1>Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 80008024 printing eip: c0131dd9 *pde = 00000000 Oops: 0000 CPU: 1 EIP: 0010:[] Not tainted EFLAGS: 00010286 eax: 80008000 ebx: cd5add60 ecx: dfbde640 edx: cd5add60 esi: 00000003 edi: 00000000 ebp: 00000001 esp: cfefde7c ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018 Process tail (pid: 2420, stackpage=cfefd000) Stack: 00000003 00000003 cc7428c0 c0119028 cd5add60 cc7428c0 ccdffaa0 cfefc000 0000000b 80008008 cc7429e0 c01197b5 cc7428c0 00000000 ccdffaa0 00000000 c01072cf 0000000b 00000000 c0113298 c02199be cfefdf80 00000000 cfefc000 Call Trace: [] [] [][][] [] [] [] [] [] Code: 83 78 24 00 74 4c be 00 e0 ff ff 21 e6 8b 46 1c 8d 50 01 89 <6>NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth2: transmit timed out eth2: Tx timeout! Resetting card. eth2: -> orinoco_reset() Then the system locks solid, keyboard dead etc... Again any assistance debugging this would be appreciated. Regards, Rob -- ---------------------"Happiness is understanding."---------------------- Robert Hardy C.E.O. Webcon Inc. From kleptog@svana.org Sun Nov 25 01:21:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F37E4105; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 01:21:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 167vTF-0004r5-00; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 20:21:05 +1100 Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 20:21:05 +1100 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: Robert Hardy Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org, anton@samba.org, hermes@gibson.dropbear.id.au Subject: Re: Orinoco driver lockups Message-ID: <20011125202105.B18563@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from rhardy@webcon.net on Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 11:47:01PM -0500 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 11:47:01PM -0500, Robert Hardy wrote: > Here is a hand transcribed kernel oops with max ORINOCO_DEBUG: > Code: 8b 43 08 8b 80 90 00 00 00 85 c0 74 11 8b 40 34 85 c0 74 0a > <1>Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 80008024 > printing eip: > c0131dd9 [snip] Would it be possible to run that through ksymoops to give actual names to those addresses. That segfault as given has no useful information. > Then the system locks solid, keyboard dead etc... Is it the kernel spitting that out or klogd? Recent klogds (iirc) store useful debugging information in /var/log/ksymoops which may be useful for decyphering the oops. HTH, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Magnetism, electricity and motion are like a three-for-two special offer: > if you have two of them, the third one comes free. From oh1mrr@nic.fi Sun Nov 25 09:03:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from jakorasia.nic.fi (jakorasia.nic.fi [212.38.224.80]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC6F24467 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 09:03:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (netti-1-25.dyn.nic.fi [212.38.225.25]) by jakorasia.nic.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA12393 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 19:03:09 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <200111251703.TAA12393@jakorasia.nic.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: jarmo kettunen To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: unresolved symbols Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 19:03:45 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi New on this list and very new with wavelan stuff... Started without reading any howto....ended reading plenty of howtos..!!!! and now have problem with module wavelan2_cs.o. [root@oh1mrr root]# insmod wavelan2_cs Using /lib/modules/2.4.16-pre1/pcmcia/wavelan2_cs.o /lib/modules/2.4.16-pre1/pcmcia/wavelan2_cs.o: unresolved symbol hcf_put_data /lib/modules/2.4.16-pre1/pcmcia/wavelan2_cs.o: unresolved symbol hcf_disable /lib/modules/2.4.16-pre1/pcmcia/wavelan2_cs.o: unresolved symbol hcf_disconnect /lib/modules/2.4.16-pre1/pcmcia/wavelan2_cs.o: unresolved symbol hcf_send_diag_msg /lib/modules/2.4.16-pre1/pcmcia/wavelan2_cs.o: unresolved symbol hcf_send /lib/modules/2.4.16-pre1/pcmcia/wavelan2_cs.o: unresolved symbol hcf_get_data /lib/modules/2.4.16-pre1/pcmcia/wavelan2_cs.o: unresolved symbol hcf_put_info /lib/modules/2.4.16-pre1/pcmcia/wavelan2_cs.o: unresolved symbol hcf_action /lib/modules/2.4.16-pre1/pcmcia/wavelan2_cs.o: unresolved symbol hcf_connect /lib/modules/2.4.16-pre1/pcmcia/wavelan2_cs.o: unresolved symbol hcf_service_nic/lib/modules/2.4.16-pre1/pcmcia/wavelan2_cs.o: unresolved symbol hcf_get_info /lib/modules/2.4.16-pre1/pcmcia/wavelan2_cs.o: unresolved symbol hcf_enable [root@oh1mrr root]# Anybody ...ideas to cure this problem?...I have brains now stuck.... Greetings Jarmo oh1mrr@nic.fi From mjoconr@pineview.net Sun Nov 25 16:40:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from ppro.pineview.net (ppro.pineview.net [150.101.6.12]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3734AA4 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 16:40:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from themaster (themaster.pineview.net [203.33.246.30]) by ppro.pineview.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with SMTP id LAA03903 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 11:09:53 +1030 X-Authentication-Warning: ppro.pineview.net: Host themaster.pineview.net [203.33.246.30] claimed to be themaster Message-ID: <001501c17612$db04fa70$1ef621cb@themaster> From: "Mike O'Connor" To: References: <200111251703.TAA12393@jakorasia.nic.fi> Subject: PCI to PCMCIA Adaptors Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 11:09:49 +1030 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi All I've seen some email which talk about PCI to PCMCIA adapters, but on real answers to which card would be supported. So 1. Which chip sets are supported by the last few Linux kernel ? 2. Which chip sets are supported by the last few PCMCIA-CS version ? 3. If they are supported by the on of the above will most or all of the wavelan cards works ? and last but on least. 4. Were would I buy some of the supported card wholesale ? Cheers Mike O'Connor From rhardy@webcon.net Sun Nov 25 18:20:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from thor.webcon.net (wsp597687wss.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.112.232.89]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A5D481A for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 18:20:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rhardy@localhost) by thor.webcon.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAQ2JYO02131; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 21:19:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: thor.webcon.net: rhardy owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 21:19:26 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Hardy To: "Mike O'Connor" Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: PCMCIA to PCI Bridges In-Reply-To: <001501c17612$db04fa70$1ef621cb@themaster> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Mike O'Connor wrote: > Hi All > > I've seen some email which talk about PCI to PCMCIA adapters, but on real > answers to which card would be supported. I assume you mean PCMCIA to PCI bridges. > 1. Which chip sets are supported by the last few Linux kernel ? > 2. Which chip sets are supported by the last few PCMCIA-CS version ? I don't have general information as to what works and what doesn't however I can tell you a few specific instances which do work. Here are a few links for Linux Friendly PCI PCMCIA bridges: http://www.actiontec.com/support/readers/pc750.html#dl http://www.psism.com/reader.htm http://www.psism.com/pci_rear_reader.htm I'm using the PC750 and it worked flawlessly under Linux 2.2 using an Lucent Orinoco. Unless you need 2 slots you might as well get the single slot Lucent card or another rear mounted card from the site above. The Actiontec PC750 requires two IRQs (under Linux.) This may be fixed in more recent tools but I had fun getting it to work originally until I got each controller on their own unshared IRQs. My friend has a bridge made by Lucent and it worked well. If you have a PCI 2.1 motherboard be certain to get a newer board which supports PCI 2.1 as the earlier Lucent boards which require PCI2.2 will not work on a PCI 2.1 board. See www.wavelan.com for the Lucent boards (or whatever company has bought wavelan now...) > 3. If they are supported by the on of the above will most or all of the > wavelan cards works ? > and last but on least. I have an orinoco card in mine. My friend is using a clone of the orinoco. The clones are much slower to release firmware but are cheaper. > 4. Were would I buy some of the supported card wholesale ? You could try approaching the vendors above. It should be relatively easy to find someone carrying the lucent products from their website. I got my two Orinoco cards and my original PCI 2.2 card from TechData (www.techdata.com) but was unimpressed with their "wholesale" price. It was cheaper for us to order our next batch off the web. Regards, Rob -- ---------------------"Happiness is understanding."---------------------- Robert Hardy C.E.O. Webcon Inc. rhardy@webcon.net GPG Key available by request (613) 276-6206 From rhardy@webcon.net Sun Nov 25 18:35:23 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from thor.webcon.net (wsp597687wss.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.112.232.89]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF46E4579; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 18:35:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rhardy@localhost) by thor.webcon.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAQ2Yh102269; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 21:34:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: thor.webcon.net: rhardy owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 21:34:35 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Hardy To: Martijn van Oosterhout Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org, , Subject: Re: Orinoco driver lockups In-Reply-To: <20011125202105.B18563@svana.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > On Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 11:47:01PM -0500, Robert Hardy wrote: > > Here is a hand transcribed kernel oops with max ORINOCO_DEBUG: > > Code: 8b 43 08 8b 80 90 00 00 00 85 c0 74 11 8b 40 34 85 c0 74 0a > > <1>Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 80008024 > > printing eip: > > c0131dd9 > [snip] > > Would it be possible to run that through ksymoops to give actual names to > those addresses. That segfault as given has no useful information. Well it does tell us the last thing printed was orinoco_reset(). > Is it the kernel spitting that out or klogd? The ooops was transcribed by hand off the console after lockup. > Recent klogds (iirc) store useful debugging information in > /var/log/ksymoops which may be useful for decyphering the oops. I don't think we did a good job of running it through ksymoops but it will have to do for now. Of the last 10 lockups, 2-3 have generated oops and the other 7 have provided no debugging information at all. I'll try compiling up a uni-processor kernel in a few days and see if the problems persist. I'm running a heavily updated RH6.2. My klogd doesn't seem to do any logging in /var/log/ksymoops. ksymoops 2.3.5 on i686 2.4.15-pre5. Options used -V (default) -k /proc/ksyms (default) -l /proc/modules (default) -o /lib/modules/2.4.15-pre5/ (default) -m /boot/System.map (specified) Warning (compare_maps): mismatch on symbol nlmsvc_ops , lockd says e0cf72d0, /lib/modules/2.4.15-pre5/kernel/fs/lockd/lockd.o says e0cf673c. Ignoring /lib/modules/2.4.15-pre5/kernel/fs/lockd/lockd.o entry Warning (compare_maps): mismatch on symbol nfs_debug , sunrpc says e0cea30c, /lib/modules/2.4.15-pre5/kernel/net/sunrpc/sunrpc.o says e0cea00c. Ignoring /lib/modules/2.4.15-pre5/kernel/net/sunrpc/sunrpc.o entry Warning (compare_maps): mismatch on symbol nfsd_debug , sunrpc says e0cea310, /lib/modules/2.4.15-pre5/kernel/net/sunrpc/sunrpc.o says e0cea010. Ignoring /lib/modules/2.4.15-pre5/kernel/net/sunrpc/sunrpc.o entry Warning (compare_maps): mismatch on symbol nlm_debug , sunrpc says e0cea314, /lib/modules/2.4.15-pre5/kernel/net/sunrpc/sunrpc.o says e0cea014. Ignoring /lib/modules/2.4.15-pre5/kernel/net/sunrpc/sunrpc.o entry Warning (compare_maps): mismatch on symbol rpc_debug , sunrpc says e0cea308, /lib/modules/2.4.15-pre5/kernel/net/sunrpc/sunrpc.o says e0cea008. Ignoring /lib/modules/2.4.15-pre5/kernel/net/sunrpc/sunrpc.o entry Code: 8b 43 08 8b 80 90 00 00 00 85 c0 74 11 8b 40 34 85 c0 74 0a Using defaults from ksymoops -t elf32-i386 -a i386 Code; 00000000 Before first symbol 00000000 <_EIP>: Code; 00000000 Before first symbol 0: 8b 43 08 mov 0x8(%ebx),%eax Code; 00000003 Before first symbol 3: 8b 80 90 00 00 00 mov 0x90(%eax),%eax Code; 00000009 Before first symbol 9: 85 c0 test %eax,%eax Code; 0000000b Before first symbol b: 74 11 je 1e <_EIP+0x1e> 0000001e Before first symbol Code; 0000000d Before first symbol d: 8b 40 34 mov 0x34(%eax),%eax Code; 00000010 Before first symbol 10: 85 c0 test %eax,%eax Code; 00000012 Before first symbol 12: 74 0a je 1e <_EIP+0x1e> 0000001e Before first symbol <1>Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 80008024 c0131dd9 *pde = 00000000 Oops: 0000 CPU: 1 EIP: 0010:[] Not tainted EFLAGS: 00010286 eax: 80008000 ebx: cd5add60 ecx: dfbde640 edx: cd5add60 esi: 00000003 edi: 00000000 ebp: 00000001 esp: cfefde7c ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018 Process tail (pid: 2420, stackpage=cfefd000) Stack: 00000003 00000003 cc7428c0 c0119028 cd5add60 cc7428c0 ccdffaa0 cfefc000 0000000b 80008008 cc7429e0 c01197b5 cc7428c0 00000000 ccdffaa0 00000000 c01072cf 0000000b 00000000 c0113298 c02199be cfefdf80 00000000 cfefc000 Call Trace: [] [] [][][] [] [] [] [] [] Code: 83 78 24 00 74 4c be 00 e0 ff ff 21 e6 8b 46 1c 8d 50 01 89 >>EIP; c0131dd9 <===== Trace; c0119028 Trace; c01197b5 Trace; c01072cf Trace; c0113298 Trace; c0112f2c Trace; c0113e83 Trace; c0106e64 Trace; c0110018 Trace; c0138a8a Trace; c0106d73 Code; c0131dd9 00000000 <_EIP>: Code; c0131dd9 <===== 0: 83 78 24 00 cmpl $0x0,0x24(%eax) <===== Code; c0131ddd 4: 74 4c je 52 <_EIP+0x52> c0131e2b Code; c0131ddf 6: be 00 e0 ff ff mov $0xffffe000,%esi Code; c0131de4 b: 21 e6 and %esp,%esi Code; c0131de6 d: 8b 46 1c mov 0x1c(%esi),%eax Code; c0131de9 10: 8d 50 01 lea 0x1(%eax),%edx Code; c0131dec 13: 89 00 mov %eax,(%eax) 5 warnings issued. Results may not be reliable. Regards, Rob -- ---------------------"Happiness is understanding."---------------------- Robert Hardy C.E.O. Webcon Inc. rhardy@webcon.net GPG Key available by request (613) 276-6206 From nicola76@inwind.it Mon Nov 26 03:00:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailweb8.inwind.it (unknown [212.141.54.118]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F70A478C for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 03:00:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from inwind.it (127.0.0.1) by mailweb8.inwind.it (5.5.029) id 3BD807A4000223A6; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:01:17 +0100 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 13:01:17 +0200 Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "nicola76@inwind.it" To: wireless@lists.samba.org To: hermes@gibson.dropbear.id.au X-XaM3-API-Version: 1.1.9.1.36 X-SenderIP: 192.167.22.132 Subject: (no subject) Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, i have riceved HCF-light code and a document from Lucent where explain HCF and HCF-light function. Date is 1999 old, do you think they work with Orinoco PC card 11Mbs? Someone told me old release from Lucent was very ugly, are these drivers? Another question, Orinoco card download firmware from host or from flash memory in the NIC? Thank you for any help, Best Regards, Nicola From oh1mrr@nic.fi Mon Nov 26 11:50:23 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from jakorasia.nic.fi (jakorasia.nic.fi [212.38.224.80]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A094D67 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 11:50:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (netti-1-290.dyn.nic.fi [212.38.226.35]) by jakorasia.nic.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA25512 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:49:46 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <200111261949.VAA25512@jakorasia.nic.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: jarmo kettunen To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Wireless in Mandrake? Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:50:29 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Is there anybody using wireless in mandrake (8.1) or RH,ques they are acting same way? As a beginner it seems,like inventing wheel again...-) If somebody,who's using,could send me models of all "config" files,I could figure what's that I need? It seems,that I have some difficulties to get this working....For instance with this new 2.4.16-pre1 kernel wireless-tools does not compile at all, so I quess I have to configure all by hand. I get allready my card regonized,but no signals monitored...(with Korinoco). I would have more "twisted" model about configurations,than Howtos are giving me at the moment.... So please...If somebody could help with exaple files.... Jarmo oh1mrr@nic.fi From jcollins@asgardsrealm.net Mon Nov 26 12:23:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from asgardsrealm.net (24-148-71-77.na.21stcentury.net [24.148.71.77]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 407A149AF for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:23:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 24869 invoked from network); 26 Nov 2001 21:19:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.43?) (209.242.10.6) by 0 with SMTP; 26 Nov 2001 21:19:46 -0000 Subject: orinoco_cs and DWL 650 PCMCIA From: "Jamin W. Collins" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/0.99.2 (Preview Release) Date: 26 Nov 2001 14:21:45 -0600 Message-Id: <1006806105.26297.1.camel@Cerberus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I've recently attempted to make the move to the orinoco_cs driver for my DWL 650. To this point, I've been using the pre-2.4.5 wvlan_cs patches from RedHat's kernels. Now, with /etc/pcmcia/config set to bind orinoco_cs to the DWL_650, I get the following errors on card insert: kernel: eth0: Error -110 writing packet header to BAP kernel: eth0: Tx error! Any advice? The wvlan_cs driver works with this card, but I'm hoping to get more control and/or better performance with the orinoco driver. Jamin W. Collins From rhardy@webcon.net Tue Nov 27 13:00:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from webcon.net (webcon.net [216.187.106.140]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C69C145A5; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 13:00:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from fulcrum.int.webcon.net (rhardy@fulcrum.int.webcon.net [192.168.7.1]) by webcon.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fARKxOh26225; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:59:25 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:59:19 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Hardy To: Bruce Janson Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org, , Subject: Re: Orinoco driver lockups In-Reply-To: <200111251308.fAPD7vY28025@webcon.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Bruce Janson wrote: > ... > From: Robert Hardy > To: wireless@lists.samba.org, , > > ... > Testing environment: > I've got a pair of Orinoco 802.11b Wireless NICs. One > is in a Sager notebook running Windoze 98 and the other is a Linux 2.4.x > based box on a Abit BP6 with a pair of Celeron CPU & 512M of RAM. > ... > > Robert, > Does the problem persist if on the dual Linux box you > 1) run a UP kernel and/or > 2) disable (remove?) one of the CPUs? My collegue tried this on his workstation. The drivers do not exhibit the problems on either a UP kernel or an SMP kernel with maxcpu=1. Regards, Rob -- ---------------------"Happiness is understanding."---------------------- Robert Hardy C.E.O. Webcon Inc. rhardy@webcon.net GPG Key available by request (613) 276-6206 From rankinc@pacbell.net Wed Nov 28 00:13:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from snfc21.pbi.net (mta6.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.240]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D19CF4E91 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:13:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from wellhouse.underworld ([64.173.25.110]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0GNI00F1W44S4N@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for wireless@lists.samba.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:12:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from twopit.underworld (twopit [192.168.0.2]) by wellhouse.underworld (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fAS8CSpW018256; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:12:28 -0800 Received: from twopit.underworld (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by twopit.underworld (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fAS8CSXt009484; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:12:28 -0800 Received: (from chris@localhost) by twopit.underworld (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id fAS8CRuC009483; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:12:27 -0800 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:12:27 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Rankin Subject: USB Orinoco Gold adapter driver for Linux? To: hermes@gibson.dropbear.id.au Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Message-id: <200111280812.fAS8CRuC009483@twopit.underworld> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I am searching for a Linux-compatible USB 802.11b adapter, and so far the only USB driver I have discovered is for adapters which use the Intersil Prism II radio components AND the Intersil MAC chip. Finding hardware which uses both is proving problematic. However, there are obviously chipsets other than Intersil's, for example the Lucent chipset. I discovered that the Orinoco USB adapter is really a PCMCIA card and a USB controller chip (the EZ-USB FX chip, CY7C64613). Seeing as there is already a Linux driver for the PCMCIA Orinoco card, are there any plans to make a USB version? Thanks, Chris From dgibson@samba.org Wed Nov 28 00:54:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id 84A7E4805; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:54:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:52:35 +0100 From: David Gibson To: Robert Hardy Cc: Bruce Janson , wireless@lists.samba.org, anton@samba.org Subject: Re: Orinoco driver lockups Message-ID: <20011128095235.J2691@zax> Mail-Followup-To: Robert Hardy , Bruce Janson , wireless@lists.samba.org, anton@samba.org References: <200111251308.fAPD7vY28025@webcon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 03:59:19PM -0500, Robert Hardy wrote: > On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Bruce Janson wrote: > > ... > > From: Robert Hardy > > To: wireless@lists.samba.org, , > > > > ... > > Testing environment: > > I've got a pair of Orinoco 802.11b Wireless NICs. One > > is in a Sager notebook running Windoze 98 and the other is a Linux 2.4.x > > based box on a Abit BP6 with a pair of Celeron CPU & 512M of RAM. > > ... > > > > Robert, > > Does the problem persist if on the dual Linux box you > > 1) run a UP kernel and/or > > 2) disable (remove?) one of the CPUs? > > My collegue tried this on his workstation. The drivers do not exhibit the problems > on either a UP kernel or an SMP kernel with maxcpu=1. Ah, right, ok. I strongly suspect this is a problem in the PCMCIA subsystem - I really wouldn't trust it on SMP. -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From dgibson@samba.org Wed Nov 28 00:55:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id 34A79450D; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:54:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:54:13 +0100 From: David Gibson To: Robert Hardy Cc: Martijn van Oosterhout , wireless@lists.samba.org, anton@samba.org Subject: Re: Orinoco driver lockups Message-ID: <20011128095413.K2691@zax> Mail-Followup-To: Robert Hardy , Martijn van Oosterhout , wireless@lists.samba.org, anton@samba.org References: <20011125202105.B18563@svana.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 09:34:35PM -0500, Robert Hardy wrote: > On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 11:47:01PM -0500, Robert Hardy wrote: > > > Here is a hand transcribed kernel oops with max ORINOCO_DEBUG: > > > Code: 8b 43 08 8b 80 90 00 00 00 85 c0 74 11 8b 40 34 85 c0 74 0a > > > <1>Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 80008024 > > > printing eip: > > > c0131dd9 > > [snip] > > > > Would it be possible to run that through ksymoops to give actual names to > > those addresses. That segfault as given has no useful information. > > Well it does tell us the last thing printed was orinoco_reset(). > > > Is it the kernel spitting that out or klogd? > > The ooops was transcribed by hand off the console after lockup. > > > Recent klogds (iirc) store useful debugging information in > > /var/log/ksymoops which may be useful for decyphering the oops. > > I don't think we did a good job of running it through ksymoops but it will > have to do for now. Of the last 10 lockups, 2-3 have generated oops and the > other 7 have provided no debugging information at all. > > I'll try compiling up a uni-processor kernel in a few days and see if the > problems persist. I'm running a heavily updated RH6.2. My klogd doesn't seem > to do any logging in /var/log/ksymoops. I'm afraid this ksymoops dump (snipped) looks bogus. You'll have to make sure you have the right System.map, and the right ksyms - because you're hanging you would probably have to load the modules, take a copy of /proc/ksyms, then induce the oops and decipher the oops against the saved ksyms file. -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From c603273@castor.trl.telstra.com.au Wed Nov 28 02:19:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailo.vtcif.telstra.com.au (mailo.vtcif.telstra.com.au [202.12.144.17]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1834F5F for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 02:19:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mailo.vtcif.telstra.com.au (8.8.2/8.6.9) id VAA06186 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:19:17 +1100 (EST) Received: from maili.vtcif.telstra.com.au(202.12.142.17) via SMTP by mailo.vtcif.telstra.com.au, id smtpd0eg1f_; Wed Nov 28 21:19:12 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by maili.vtcif.telstra.com.au (8.8.2/8.6.9) id VAA20265 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:19:11 +1100 (EST) Received: from localhost(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "mail.cdn.telstra.com.au" via SMTP by localhost, id smtpdBu10E_; Wed Nov 28 21:18:55 2001 Received: from vus069.trl.telstra.com.au (vus069.trl.telstra.com.au [137.147.113.20]) by mail.cdn.telstra.com.au (8.8.2/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA19699 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:18:55 +1100 (EST) Received: from castor.trl.telstra.com.au (castor.trl.telstra.com.au [137.147.111.61]) by vus069.trl.telstra.com.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA09069 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:18:29 +1100 (EST) Received: from castor.trl.telstra.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by castor.trl.telstra.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id D973275824 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:18:48 +1100 (EST) To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Sparcstation 5 Workstations Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:18:48 +1100 From: Brian Keck Message-Id: <20011128101848.D973275824@castor.trl.telstra.com.au> Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:09:46 +1100, Tony Langdon wrote: >> Is Anybody in Melbourne interested in Aquiring 4x Sparcstation 5s >>... >... >Might also be worth mentioning in the Linux user groups (I presume >Linux/Sparc will run on them :) ). I installed woody (debian) on one a few weeks ago. No harder than on intel. I installed 1.5 GB from binary packages. The only one I've tried that hasn't worked was nmh ... it was OK installed from source. Brian Keck From bhards@bigpond.net.au Wed Nov 28 02:22:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mta02ps.bigpond.com (mta02ps.bigpond.com [144.135.25.134]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BAA5511F for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 02:22:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from bigpond.net.au ([144.135.25.84]) by mta02ps.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GNIAG300.0B3; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:28:51 +1000 Received: from 144.137.74.46 ([144.137.74.46]) by psmam06.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9k 8419/21914198); 28 Nov 2001 20:22:03 Message-ID: <3C04BB52.B98D5C83@bigpond.net.au> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:24:18 +1100 From: Brad Hards X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.5.1-pre1 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Rankin Cc: hermes@gibson.dropbear.id.au, wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: USB Orinoco Gold adapter driver for Linux? References: <200111280812.fAS8CRuC009483@twopit.underworld> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Chris Rankin wrote: > > Hi, > > I am searching for a Linux-compatible USB 802.11b adapter, and so far > the only USB driver I have discovered is for adapters which use the > Intersil Prism II radio components AND the Intersil MAC chip. Finding > hardware which uses both is proving problematic. However, there are > obviously chipsets other than Intersil's, for example the Lucent > chipset. Can you provide more detail on the Intersil USB driver? Also, there is pretty advanced work on the atmel devices support (such as the dlink dwl-120). I am currently evaluating a Linux driver provided by Atmel. Unfortunately it isn't all open source :( > I discovered that the Orinoco USB adapter is really a PCMCIA card and > a USB controller chip (the EZ-USB FX chip, CY7C64613). Seeing as there > is already a Linux driver for the PCMCIA Orinoco card, are there any > plans to make a USB version? It would be trivial to provide the firmware download, but we'd need specs for the USB to PCMCIA bridge functionality. Reverse engineering it would be very ugly. Brad From dean@skillwest.org.au Wed Nov 28 15:23:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.charters.net.au (203-109-178-10.ihug.net [203.109.178.10]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2F14129 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:23:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from hostname (nas1p8.charters.net.au [203.109.178.72]) by mail.charters.net.au (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA17661 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:16:26 +1000 X-MSReally-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from 195.50.0.101 by hostname ([195.50.0.1] running VPOP3 - Unregistered) with SMTP for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:21:47 +1000 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:21:45 -0000 Message-ID: <01C178B7.43AF1320.dean@skillwest.org.au> From: Dean Hentscher To: "'wireless@lists.samba.org'" Subject: Prism2 based card with external antenna Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:21:44 -0000 Organization: SKILLWEST Inc. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Encoding: 12 TEXT X-Server: VPOP3 V1.5.0 Unregistered Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I realise that this has prolly been asked many times before (I have searched the archives) but, does anyone now of a card that has: 1) the Prism2 chipset 2) external antenna jack (I don't really want to mod/hack) 3) that is available in PCMCIA (and will work in a ISA/PCI <> PCMCIA adaptor) 4) availible in OZ (and where???) Cheers Deano From rgillis@bigpond.com Thu Nov 29 03:09:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mta01ps.bigpond.com (mta01ps.bigpond.com [144.135.25.133]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A21F5386 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 03:09:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from p166 ([144.135.25.69]) by mta01ps.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GNK7AN00.7PY for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:15:59 +1000 Received: from WNPP-p-203-54-46-163.prem.tmns.net.au ([203.54.46.163]) by PSMAM01.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V3.0e 65/307896); 29 Nov 2001 21:09:15 Message-ID: <006901c178c6$7d2c5680$03000004@p166> From: To: Subject: Fw: virusalert Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 22:10:42 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0066_01C17922.AFC29B20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0066_01C17922.AFC29B20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: rgillis@bigpond.com=20 To: Troy Smith ; Thor Vaassen ; Systems Support BRS ; sorry no fortune = today. enjoy your cookie. ; Sasha Bennett ; Robert Zasadzki ; = pharkin@hotkey.net.au ; Mypallet@aol.com ; Michael ; maureen nicol ; = Mary Austin ; Martin Vaughan ; margaret jordan ; Kylie Williams ; = kenyons ; Jim Were ; hmbassessors-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ; = hmbassessors@yahoogroups.com ; hmbassessors Moderator ; HMB ; Gillis = Jordan ; David Lehman ; David Lehman ; D GILLIS ; brad dragun ; Bek, = Paul ; annie@bellingenfarmstay.com.au ; Angela Evans ; Angela=20 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 10:07 PM Subject: virusalert If you receive an email with an old subject and no content except a = strange attachment purporting to be a text file such as ATT00014.txt your = computer will be infected with a worm virus if you are running an old version 5.0 = IE and Outlook. 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------=_NextPart_000_0066_01C17922.AFC29B20-- From jdalton@bigfoot.com.au Thu Nov 29 18:28:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from entoo.connect.com.au (entoo.connect.com.au [192.189.54.8]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62EE74176 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 18:28:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from modem (ppp39.adsl88.pacific.net.au [202.7.88.39]) by entoo.connect.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96092E34E3 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:23:03 +1100 (EST) From: jdalton@bigfoot.com.au To: wireless@lists.samba.org Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:16:33 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: A high gain omnidirectional antenna? Reply-To: john.dalton@bigfoot.com Message-ID: <3C0786B1.22455.104CB063@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I was just reading the wireless page at http://www.air.net.au It refers to "a high gain 2.4GHz omnidirectional antenna". Isn't this an oxymoron? How can an omnidirectional antenna have high gain?? I presume what is really meant is a "low loss omnidirectional antenna"? It's a small point, but it does impact on the credibility of the page. Regards John From mick@faceng.anu.edu.au Thu Nov 29 19:07:52 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from hilbert.anu.edu.au (hilbert.anu.edu.au [150.203.43.6]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA4E473C for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:07:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from faceng.anu.edu.au (nicholson [150.203.43.98]) by hilbert.anu.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06345; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 14:10:42 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <3C06FA62.9020402@faceng.anu.edu.au> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 14:17:54 +1100 From: mick stuckings User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: john.dalton@bigfoot.com Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: A high gain omnidirectional antenna? References: <3C0786B1.22455.104CB063@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: It's a 2-D omni as I understand it, not really omni in the 3-D sense, but has a beam evenly spread horizontally and does not waste energy by spreading up and down. That's where the gain comes in. Mick jdalton@bigfoot.com.au wrote: > It refers to "a high gain 2.4GHz omnidirectional antenna". > Isn't this an oxymoron? How can an omnidirectional > antenna have high gain?? I presume what is really > meant is a "low loss omnidirectional antenna"? > From falkle@sunsbeacshs.qld.edu.au Thu Nov 29 19:14:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from gateway.telstra-ccc.qld.schools.net.au (unknown [203.37.199.158]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9363046C1 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:14:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 29013 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2001 03:13:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO c5x6q1) (203.37.199.156) by gateway.telstra-ccc.qld.schools.net.au with SMTP; 30 Nov 2001 03:13:22 -0000 Message-ID: <005401c1794c$b71b9c80$77f0740a@qed.qld.gov.au> From: "Len Falknau" To: Subject: Fw: A high gain omnidirectional antenna? Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:11:33 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: no there is some very high gain colinear omni directional gain occurs when you stack 1/2 wave elements on top of each other with phaseing coils gain figures of up to 12 db are not uncommon len > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 12:16 PM > Subject: A high gain omnidirectional antenna? > > > > I was just reading the wireless page at > > http://www.air.net.au > > > > It refers to "a high gain 2.4GHz omnidirectional antenna". > > Isn't this an oxymoron? How can an omnidirectional > > antenna have high gain?? I presume what is really > > meant is a "low loss omnidirectional antenna"? > > > > It's a small point, but it does impact on the credibility of the page. > > > > Regards > > John > > > > > > > > > From macro@nathan.linux-dude.net Fri Nov 30 18:46:23 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from nathan.linux-dude.net (mcns179.docsis220.singa.pore.net [202.156.220.179]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4B13348BD for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 18:46:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 9552 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2001 02:27:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nathan) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 1 Dec 2001 02:27:00 -0000 Message-ID: <00e601c17a12$61191bc0$6401a8c0@nathan> From: "Nathan Alberti" To: Subject: Linksys WPC11 Antenna Mod Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 10:46:29 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Anyone done an external antenna mod on the Linksys card ? It has 2 sets of solder pads on the end of the card which sort of look like they are there for the purpose... Anyone got any ideas ? you can see pics of the board here: http://nathan.linux-dude.net:70/WPC11-top.jpg http://nathan.linux-dude.net:70/WPC11-bottom.jpg or http://nathan.linux-dude.net:70/WPC11-top-big.jpg http://nathan.linux-dude.net:70/WPC11-bottom-big.jpg From imorgan@webcon.net Sat Dec 1 14:01:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from webcon.net (webcon.net [216.187.106.140]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A7904106 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 14:01:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from light.int.webcon.net (light.int.webcon.net [192.168.1.1]) by webcon.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fB1M0Rh16518 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 17:00:27 -0500 Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 17:00:21 -0500 (EST) From: Ian Morgan To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Orinoco innards revealed Message-ID: Organization: "Webcon, Inc." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: For those interested, here's a few hi-res scans of the inside of a Lucent Orinoco Gold card. (Really an Avaya OEM card.) http://www.webcon.net/~imorgan/photos/hardware/orinoco/ Regards, Ian Morgan -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Ian E. Morgan Vice President & C.O.O. Webcon, Inc. imorgan@webcon.net PGP: #2DA40D07 www.webcon.net ------------------------------------------------------------------- From btenison@earthlink.net Sun Dec 2 16:28:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.120]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A4344EF for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 16:28:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from 1cust12.tnt1.bay-minette.al.da.uu.net ([63.29.15.12] helo=tenisonxp) by albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16AgxD-0007HW-00 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2001 16:27:27 -0800 From: "Bruce Tenison" To: Subject: Orinoco Gold and Linksys BEFW11S4 AP (shared key) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 18:26:31 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi All! I've looked through the archives, and didn't see a similar question. I'm playing with an Orinoco Gold card (using hermes, and orinoco_cs...) When I set the Linksys AP to "shared key" (turn off the open system option), and set the keys properly (works before disabling the open system attribute) it seems that the orinoco card can't contact the AP. If I change the AP back to open system, everything works properly. Any ideas? Any pointers? Thanks in advance! Bruce From dgibson@samba.org Mon Dec 3 03:05:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id E1ED84217; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 03:05:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 11:58:11 +0100 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Orinoco Gold and Linksys BEFW11S4 AP (shared key) Message-ID: <20011203115811.B15838@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 06:26:31PM -0600, Bruce Tenison wrote: > Hi All! I've looked through the archives, and didn't see a similar > question. I'm playing with an Orinoco Gold card (using hermes, and > orinoco_cs...) When I set the Linksys AP to "shared key" (turn off the open > system option), and set the keys properly (works before disabling the open > system attribute) it seems that the orinoco card can't contact the AP. If I > change the AP back to open system, everything works properly. > > Any ideas? Any pointers? Blah. There seem to be some odd problems with WEP on the Intersil firmware cards (like the Linksys), which result in strange dependencies on the order the paramters are set with iwconfig (essid, keys etc.). As far as I can tell this should be impossible, so I'm still looking for a way to fix this problem :-( -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From btenison@earthlink.net Mon Dec 3 03:59:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9BAB4213 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 03:59:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from 1cust111.tnt1.bay-minette.al.da.uu.net ([63.29.15.111] helo=tenisonxp) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16ArkS-0005n9-00; Mon, 03 Dec 2001 03:59:00 -0800 From: "Bruce Tenison" To: "David Gibson" , Subject: RE: Orinoco Gold and Linksys BEFW11S4 AP (shared key) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 05:58:01 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <20011203115811.B15838@zax> Importance: Normal Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Thanks David! If there is anything that I can test or change to help the cause on my end, feel free to let me know! Thanks again! Bruce -----Original Message----- From: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org [mailto:wireless-admin@lists.samba.org]On Behalf Of David Gibson Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 4:58 AM To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Orinoco Gold and Linksys BEFW11S4 AP (shared key) On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 06:26:31PM -0600, Bruce Tenison wrote: > Hi All! I've looked through the archives, and didn't see a similar > question. I'm playing with an Orinoco Gold card (using hermes, and > orinoco_cs...) When I set the Linksys AP to "shared key" (turn off the open > system option), and set the keys properly (works before disabling the open > system attribute) it seems that the orinoco card can't contact the AP. If I > change the AP back to open system, everything works properly. > > Any ideas? Any pointers? Blah. There seem to be some odd problems with WEP on the Intersil firmware cards (like the Linksys), which result in strange dependencies on the order the paramters are set with iwconfig (essid, keys etc.). As far as I can tell this should be impossible, so I'm still looking for a way to fix this problem :-( -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From bryan@whaite.com Tue Dec 4 00:11:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from whaite.com (unknown [210.8.212.251]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E96E47F9 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from bc.whaite.com (home2.whaite.com [144.137.80.221]) by whaite.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fB489KO07563 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 19:09:20 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from bryan@whaite.com) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011204190342.024e3350@whaite.com> X-Sender: bryan@whaite.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 19:05:58 +1100 To: wireless@lists.samba.org From: bryan collins Subject: Sate of network in Kambah ACT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I have moved to the southside, and still interested in wireless networks. I've got an apple airport base station running FreeBSD and need a network to connect to! Planning on one link already down across drakeford drive in kambah. From memory, theres quite a few wireless people in Kambah. Is the idea of connecting people up for non-commercial reasons (i.e games!) still exist? Cheers Bry From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Tue Dec 4 14:42:08 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FFEF4512 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:42:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id OAA05436; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:40:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id OAA17090; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:40:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16BOFC-000486-00; Tue, 04 Dec 2001 14:40:54 -0800 Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:40:54 -0800 To: David Gibson , Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Orinoco EIO & SMP fix Message-ID: <20011204144054.A15861@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi David, Now that Linux-IrDA is under control, I spent a bit of "quality time" with the Orinoco driver. Included in this patch : o Fix for bitrate setting/reading. I already sent you that earlier. o Fix a SMP bug where the Tx queue would remain locked. o Fix a IRQ handler bug where the Tx queue would be released too early (that's the cause of Tx EIO errors). I've tested the patch at lenght on an Orinoco card (6.16), a 3Com card (2.20) and a Linsys card (0.08) on my SMP box. One of my favorite test is to start on *both* side something like this : > netperf -H XXX -t UDP_STREAM -l 20 -- -m 256 I can still the card going crazy from time to time (like SWSUPPORT0 wiped out), but I could no see the reason for it. Probably some firmware bug. Anyway, the watchdog fixes it. In other words, I'm pretty happy of the state of the driver after the patch. Ship that to Marco ;-) Have fun... Jean P.S. : Don't forget to update the Pcmcia package. P.S.2 : PrismII still need a bit of tcpdump to get is started. P.S.3 : While doing Ad-Hoc between a Symbol card and a non-Symbol card, don't forget to put [IWPRIV="set_preamble 0"] for the Symbol card in you wireless.opts. I'll add that to the release notes. --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ori8_irqfix.diff" diff -u -p -r linux/drivers/net/wireless.08c/hermes.h linux/drivers/net/wireless/hermes.h --- linux/drivers/net/wireless.08c/hermes.h Wed Nov 28 16:47:15 2001 +++ linux/drivers/net/wireless/hermes.h Wed Nov 28 18:05:15 2001 @@ -192,10 +192,11 @@ struct hermes_tx_descriptor { #define HERMES_TXCTRL_802_11 (0x0008) /* We supply 802.11 header */ #define HERMES_TXCTRL_ALT_RTRY (0x0020) -/* Inquiry constants and data types */ +/* Inquiry command & Information frame : constants and data types */ #define HERMES_INQ_TALLIES 0xF100 #define HERMES_INQ_SCAN 0xF101 +#define HERMES_INF_LINK_STATUS 0xF200 struct hermes_tallies_frame { u16 TxUnicastFrames; @@ -222,6 +223,27 @@ struct hermes_tallies_frame { /* Those last are probably not available in very old firmwares */ u16 RxDiscards_WEPICVError; u16 RxDiscards_WEPExcluded; +} __attribute__ ((packed)); + +/* Grabbed from wlan-ng - Thanks Mark... - Jean II + * This is the result of a scan inquiry command */ +/* Structure describing info about an Access Point */ +struct dldwd_scan_apinfo { + uint16_t channel; /* Channel where the AP sits */ + uint16_t noise; /* Noise level */ + uint16_t level; /* Signal level */ + uint8_t bssid[ETH_ALEN]; /* MAC address of the Access Point */ + uint16_t beacon_interv; /* Beacon interval ? */ + uint16_t capabilities; /* Capabilities ? */ + uint8_t essid[32]; /* ESSID of the network */ + uint8_t rates[10]; /* Bit rate supported */ + uint16_t proberesp_rate; /* ???? */ +} __attribute__ ((packed)); +/* Container */ +struct dldwd_scan_frame { + uint16_t rsvd; /* ??? */ + uint16_t scanreason; /* ??? */ + struct dldwd_scan_apinfo aps[35]; /* Scan result */ } __attribute__ ((packed)); #ifdef __KERNEL__ diff -u -p -r linux/drivers/net/wireless.08c/orinoco.c linux/drivers/net/wireless/orinoco.c --- linux/drivers/net/wireless.08c/orinoco.c Wed Nov 28 17:03:46 2001 +++ linux/drivers/net/wireless/orinoco.c Tue Dec 4 14:25:25 2001 @@ -376,6 +376,36 @@ typedef struct orinoco_commsqual { u16 qual, signal, noise; } __attribute__ ((packed)) orinoco_commsqual_t; +#if 0 +/* Let's keep that just in case. I've seen a PrismII firmware (WMP11) that + * has vendor = 1. If this firmware is released into Pcmcia cards, + * this will come handy... - Jean II + */ + +/* MAC address of the various cards we know... */ +typedef const char prefix[3]; + +const prefix lucent_mac[] = { + { 0x00, 0x60, 0x1D }, /* Lucent Wavelan IEEE */ + { 0x00, 0x02, 0x2D } /* Lucent/Agere Orinoco */ + /* Melco ??? */ +}; +const prefix symbol_mac[] = { + { 0x00, 0x02, 0xB3 }, /* Intel */ + { 0x00, 0x50, 0xDA }, /* 3Com AirConnect */ + { 0x00, 0xA0, 0xF8 } /* Symbol ??? */ + /* Need Symbol + Ericsson MAC address here */ +}; +const prefix intersil_mac[] = { + { 0x00, 0x40, 0x05 }, /* D-Link */ + { 0x00, 0x90, 0xD1 }, /* Addtron */ + { 0x00, 0x04, 0x5A }, /* LinkSys WPC11 */ + { 0x00, 0x06, 0x25 }, /* LinkSys WMP11 (PCI card) */ + { 0x00, 0x04, 0xE2 }, /* SMC */ + /* Many more to go */ +}; +#endif + /* * Function prototypes */ @@ -1093,13 +1123,20 @@ void orinoco_interrupt(int irq, void * d DEBUG(3, "%s: orinoco_interrupt()\n", priv->ndev.name); + /* Jiffies is not going to change within the loop, so save a few + * instructions - Jean II */ + if (jiffies != old_time) + timecount = 20; + else + timecount--; + while (1) { - if (jiffies != old_time) - timecount = 0; - if ( (++timecount > 50) || (! count--) ) { + /* The loop may execute up to 10 times, or the handler may + * be called 20 times within a jiffie, before we complain... */ + if ( (! count--) || (! timecount) ) { printk(KERN_CRIT "%s: IRQ handler is looping too \ -much! Shutting down.\n", - dev->name); +much! (timecount = %d - count = %d) Shutting down.\n", + dev->name, timecount, count); /* Perform an emergency shutdown */ clear_bit(ORINOCO_STATE_DOIRQ, &priv->state); hermes_set_irqmask(hw, 0); @@ -1110,18 +1147,48 @@ much! Shutting down.\n", DEBUG(3, "__orinoco_interrupt(): count=%d EVSTAT=0x%04x inten=0x%04x\n", count, evstat, hw->inten); + /* Mask unwanted events */ events = evstat & hw->inten; if (! events) { - if (netif_queue_stopped(dev)) { + /* If we are waiting for Tx done and if at the first + * iteration of the loop there is no event... */ + if ((count == (IRQ_LOOP_MAX - 1)) && + (netif_queue_stopped(dev))) { /* There seems to be a firmware bug which sometimes causes the card to give an - interrupt with no event set, when there - sould be a Tx completed event. */ - DEBUG(3, "%s: Interrupt with no event (ALLOCFID=0x%04x)\n", + interrupt with no event set. */ + /* This usually happens when we handle + * multiple Rx packets on one IRQ - Jean II */ + DEBUG(1, "%s: Interrupt with no event (ALLOCFID=0x%04x)\n", dev->name, (int)hermes_read_regn(hw, ALLOCFID)); + +#if 0 + /* Fake those events only as needed. + * We don't want to EVACK "phantom" events, + * the firmware might be confused by that. + * Jean II */ + if (hermes_read_regn(hw, TXCOMPLFID) + == priv->txfid) + events |= HERMES_EV_TX; + if (hermes_read_regn(hw, ALLOCFID) + == priv->txfid) + events |= HERMES_EV_ALLOC; + /* Shall we continue ? */ + if (! events) + break; +#else + /* It's safe to "fake" those events, as + * the handler will "validate" them using + * the FIDs, and they won't be "acked". + * Just be careful about infinite loops ;-) + * Jean II */ events = HERMES_EV_TX | HERMES_EV_ALLOC; - } else /* Nothing's happening, we're done */ +#endif + } else + /* Nothing's happening, we're done. + This is the standard exit point of this + loop (after a few iterations) */ break; } @@ -1148,7 +1215,12 @@ much! Shutting down.\n", if (events & HERMES_EV_ALLOC) __orinoco_ev_alloc(priv, hw); - hermes_write_regn(hw, EVACK, events); + /* We ack 'evstat' instead of 'events' to make sure we + * don't ack 'fake' events. Mask it to make sure we + * don't ack events we don't know about, otherwise + * bad things will happen... Jean II */ + //hermes_write_regn(hw, EVACK, events); + hermes_write_regn(hw, EVACK, evstat & hw->inten); } clear_bit(ORINOCO_STATE_INIRQ, &priv->state); @@ -1182,9 +1254,10 @@ static void __orinoco_ev_info(struct ori } __attribute__ ((packed)) info; int err; - /* This is an answer to an INQUIRE command that we did earlier. + /* This is an answer to an INQUIRE command that we did earlier, + * or an information "event" generated by the card * The controller return to us a pseudo frame containing - * the information we have asked - Jean II */ + * the information in question - Jean II */ infofid = hermes_read_regn(hw, INFOFID); DEBUG(3, "%s: __dldwd_ev_info(): INFOFID=0x%04x\n", dev->name, infofid); @@ -1236,9 +1309,18 @@ static void __orinoco_ev_info(struct ori #endif /* WIRELESS_EXT > 11 */ } break; + case HERMES_INF_LINK_STATUS: + /* Link status information frame. + * The link status has changed, and the card tell us about + * it. Most likely, the card has just connected to the cell + * or created an Ad-Hoc cell. + * We may try to plug that into the WE later on... + * Jean II */ + /* Payload : 1 word - see prism2sta_inf_linkstatus() */ + break; default: - DEBUG(1, "%s: Unknown information frame received.\n", - priv->ndev.name); + DEBUG(1, "%s: Unknown information frame received (0x%X).\n", + priv->ndev.name, le16_to_cpu(info.type)); /* We don't actually do anything about it */ break; } @@ -1414,25 +1496,58 @@ static void __orinoco_ev_tx(struct orino { struct net_device *dev = &priv->ndev; struct net_device_stats *stats = &priv->stats; + u16 txcomplfid; - DEBUG(3, "%s: Transmit completed\n", dev->name); + txcomplfid = hermes_read_regn(hw, TXCOMPLFID); - stats->tx_packets++; - netif_wake_queue(dev); + /* Because we may fake the event in the interrupt handler, we need + * to "validate" it. Otherwise, we would overwrite the packet beeing + * transmitted, which cause the famous EIO error - Jean II */ + if (txcomplfid == priv->txfid) { + DEBUG(3, "%s: Transmit completed (TXCOMPLFID=0x%04x)\n", + dev->name, txcomplfid); + + /* Clear up the TXCOMPLFID register, because the card doesn't + * do it. Otherwise, it will always read the last value, which + * will defeat the purpose of the test above... - Jean II */ + hermes_write_regn(hw, TXCOMPLFID, 0xAAAA); + + /* Packet was transmitted */ + stats->tx_packets++; + netif_wake_queue(dev); + } } static void __orinoco_ev_alloc(struct orinoco_private *priv, hermes_t *hw) { + struct net_device *dev = &priv->ndev; + struct net_device_stats *stats = &priv->stats; u16 allocfid; - allocfid = hermes_read_regn(hw, ALLOCFID); - DEBUG(3, "%s: Allocation complete FID=0x%04x\n", priv->ndev.name, allocfid); + /* In theory, this should *not* happen in normal operation, because + * hermes_allocate() run with irq off and wait for the command + * completion, and we don't do any other allocate. + * However, the Orinoco firmware seems to *never* send TXCOMPL events + * but instead always send ALLOC events. It's not random, but + * systematic, so handle this properly. - Jean II */ - /* For some reason we don't seem to get transmit completed events properly */ - if (allocfid == priv->txfid) - __orinoco_ev_tx(priv, hw); + allocfid = hermes_read_regn(hw, ALLOCFID); -/* hermes_write_regn(hw, ALLOCFID, 0); */ + /* Same as txcomplfid, "validate" the event - Jean II */ + if (allocfid == priv->txfid) { + DEBUG(3, "%s: Allocation complete ALLOCFID=0x%04x\n", + priv->ndev.name, allocfid); + + /* Clear up the ALLOCFID register, because the card doesn't + * do it. Otherwise, it will always read the last value, which + * will defeat the purpose of the test above... - Jean II */ + hermes_write_regn(hw, ALLOCFID, 0xAAAA); + + /* Process like a Tx-Done event. Can't call __orinoco_ev_tx() + * because of txcomplfid check. - Jean II */ + stats->tx_packets++; + netif_wake_queue(dev); + } } static void determine_firmware(struct net_device *dev) @@ -1940,19 +2055,27 @@ orinoco_xmit(struct sk_buff *skb, struct goto fail; } + /* Stop the queue before calling the send, because the irq handler + * may run immediately after the command, especially on slow or + * loaded MP systems - Jean II */ + netif_stop_queue(dev); + dev->trans_start = jiffies; + /* Finally, we actually initiate the send */ err = hermes_docmd_wait(hw, HERMES_CMD_TX | HERMES_CMD_RECL, txfid, &resp); if (err) { printk(KERN_ERR "%s: Error %d transmitting packet\n", dev->name, err); stats->tx_errors++; + /* Don't release the Tx queue to force a Tx Timeout and + * force a reset of the card. + * Most likely, SWSUPPORT0 has been wiped out or the + * firmware has gone crazy, so a reset is needed - Jean II */ + /* netif_start_queue(dev); */ goto fail; } - dev->trans_start = jiffies; stats->tx_bytes += data_off + data_len; - netif_stop_queue(dev); - orinoco_unlock(priv); dev_kfree_skb(skb); @@ -2519,9 +2642,16 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_setrate(struct int bitrate; /* 100s of kilobits */ int i; - bitrate = rrq->value / 100000; - if (rrq->value % 100000) - return -EINVAL; + /* As the user space doesn't know our highest rate, it uses + * -1 to ask us to set the highest rate - Jean II */ + if(rrq->value == -1) + bitrate = 110; + else { + bitrate = rrq->value / 100000; +printk(KERN_DEBUG "value = %d - bitrate = %d\n", rrq->value, bitrate); + if (rrq->value % 100000) + return -EINVAL; + } if ( (bitrate != 10) && (bitrate != 20) && (bitrate != 55) && (bitrate != 110) ) @@ -2560,6 +2690,13 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_getrate(struct if ( (ratemode < 0) || (ratemode > BITRATE_TABLE_SIZE) ) BUG(); + /* The firmware will tell us the current rate, but won't tell + * us if it's automatic or not, so we need to remember what we + * set - Jean II */ + rrq->fixed = ! bitrate_table[ratemode].automatic; + rrq->value = bitrate_table[ratemode].bitrate * 100000; + rrq->disabled = 0; + if (netif_running(dev)) { /* If the device is actually operation we try to find more, about the current mode */ @@ -2570,14 +2707,15 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_getrate(struct switch (priv->firmware_type) { case FIRMWARE_TYPE_AGERE: /* Lucent style rate */ - for (i = 0; i < BITRATE_TABLE_SIZE; i++) - if (bitrate_table[i].agere_txratectrl == val) { - ratemode = i; - break; - } - if (i >= BITRATE_TABLE_SIZE) - printk(KERN_INFO "%s: Unable to determine current bitrate (0x%04hx)\n", - dev->name, val); + /* Note : in Lucent firmware, the return value of + * HERMES_RID_CURRENTTXRATE is the bitrate in Mb/s, + * and therefore is totally different from the + * encoding of HERMES_RID_CNFTXRATECONTROL. + * Don't forget that 6Mb/s is really 5.5Mb/s */ + if(val == 6) + rrq->value = 5500000; + else + rrq->value = val * 1000000; break; case FIRMWARE_TYPE_INTERSIL: /* Intersil style rate */ case FIRMWARE_TYPE_SYMBOL: /* Symbol style rate */ @@ -2589,15 +2727,12 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_getrate(struct if (i >= BITRATE_TABLE_SIZE) printk(KERN_INFO "%s: Unable to determine current bitrate (0x%04hx)\n", dev->name, val); + rrq->value = bitrate_table[ratemode].bitrate * 100000; break; default: BUG(); } } - - rrq->value = bitrate_table[ratemode].bitrate * 100000; - rrq->fixed = ! bitrate_table[ratemode].automatic; - rrq->disabled = 0; out: orinoco_unlock(priv); --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY-- From madcow@mylittleplanet.org Wed Dec 5 01:53:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mouse.mylittleplanet.org (dan136552-1.gw.connect.com.au [202.21.12.92]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD3F529A for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 01:53:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from [203.63.44.73] (rabbit.mylittleplanet.org [203.63.44.73]) by mouse.mylittleplanet.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fB58skL22126 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 19:54:46 +1100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 20:55:06 +1100 Subject: Canberra User Wanting Hardware Suggestions..... From: Daniel Hoffman To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: People,=20 Soon to be living down south (well further than I am at the moment) I am looking at hooking up a wireless link between a mate and me for a VPN.... Only requirement is to get as much speed out of it as possible due to the sharing that will be completed over it... pain in the arse... Im mainly looking for feedback or input as to my direction to see if I should deviate to a new path. Im thinking about buying a pair of onrinoco cards, in particular the gold cards... One of the other problems we have is distance, as there will be a few KMs between the 2 sites, I was looking at spending some money on some good external arials. The off the shelf galaxy style looking ones at about $250each. However due to the distance the hellical arial configuration is prolly a better idea? The main issue I have, is I don=B9t know the best way to hook it all up, should I look at putting a PC in the roof? Run lots of expensive low loss cable? buy a accesspoint for the roof?? I am running (well will be when it comes in) a airport2 base station for my powerbook to get lan access via wireless, I have seen posts about the apple base stations, but no real insight as to what can be done with them... I also have looked at and so far am most impressed with the Orinoco Point t= o Point Backbone kit on the wavelan website as maybe being the best way for a newbie to get this working, mind you, im sure not the cheapest... If anyone wants to give me input... feel free.... but this will be a challenge im sure..... - Daniel... From leecy@dnrc.bell-labs.com Wed Dec 5 07:16:09 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from dirty.research.bell-labs.com (dirty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.6]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 26F0A4D4A for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 07:16:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from bronx.dnrc.bell-labs.com ([135.180.160.8]) by dirty; Wed Dec 5 10:15:46 EST 2001 Received: from rimavpc1.dnrc.bell-labs.com (rimavpc1 [135.180.240.113]) by bronx.dnrc.bell-labs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24266; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 10:14:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 10:14:33 -0500 (EST) From: "LEE, Yui-wah (Clement)" Reply-To: Clement Yui-Wah Lee To: Subject: Getting the list of all ESSID in range in Linux? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, Using Orinoco card on Linux, is there a way to get the list of all available ESSIDs in range? I know I can get a single ESSID -- the currently associated one -- by SIOCGIWESSID, but I want to get all available in range. I looked at the source code of all three drivers: wvlan_cs, wavelan2_cs, and orinoco_cs, it looks to me that the answer is "no" -- at least at the present moment. On the other hand, on Windows platform, this feature is supported. Even the Linux wireless extension, as defined in does not seem to define an API for that. If this feature is not currently supported, is there any plan to support it in the future? Thanks! Rgds, Clement From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Wed Dec 5 13:55:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA60426E for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 13:55:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id NAA27870 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 13:54:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id NAA12108 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 13:54:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16BjzX-0004Ll-00 for ; Wed, 05 Dec 2001 13:54:11 -0800 Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 13:54:11 -0800 To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re : Getting the list of all ESSID in range in Linux? Message-ID: <20011205135411.B16621@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: LEE, Yui-wah (Clement) : > > Even the Linux wireless extension, as defined in > does not seem to define an API for that. Correct. It's on my todo list (with zillions of other things), but it's not as easy to define the proper abstract API as it looks like (remember that there are other hardwares/drivers). Hopefully, more on this later on... Jean From kleptog@svana.org Wed Dec 5 16:24:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D6504F23 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 16:24:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16BmJy-0001Qj-00; Thu, 06 Dec 2001 11:23:26 +1100 Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 11:23:26 +1100 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: "LEE, Yui-wah (Clement)" Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Getting the list of all ESSID in range in Linux? Message-ID: <20011206112326.A5395@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from leecy@dnrc.bell-labs.com on Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 10:14:33AM -0500 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 10:14:33AM -0500, LEE, Yui-wah (Clement) wrote: > Hi, > > Using Orinoco card on Linux, is there a way to get the list of all > available ESSIDs in range? I know I can get a single ESSID -- the > currently associated one -- by SIOCGIWESSID, but I want to get all > available in range. I'm not entirely sure, but I seem to remember the ESSID appearing in the raw tcpdump output of a wireless card. I'm not sure if that's before or after filtering however. Ofcourse, this would only pick up active networks on the same frequency... HTH, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Terrorists can only take my life. Only my government can take my freedom. From Robert.Edwards@anu.edu.au Wed Dec 5 18:51:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from cs.anu.edu.au (cs.anu.edu.au [150.203.164.35]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D52854BA for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 18:51:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from anu.edu.au (tux [150.203.160.12]) by cs.anu.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA26730 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 13:49:38 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <3C0EDCFA.894CE762@anu.edu.au> Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 13:50:34 +1100 From: Bob Edwards Organization: Australian National University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@samba.org Subject: Channel usage Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I want to put more than three access points into an area where there will be overlap in their coverage. At this time, I have three access points on channels 1, 6 and 11. As I understand it, channel 1 is at 2412MHz and the separation between channels is 5MHz. So the separation between channels 1 and 6 is 25MHz. Each 802.11DS signal needs 22MHz of radio frequency bandwidth, so using channels 1, 6 and 11 means that the access points don't overlap in their use of radio bandwidth, and therefore don't interfere with each other and so we get maximum channel utilisation. My question is this: If I use channels 1, 5, 9 and 13 in order to have four distinct frequencies, I only have 20MHz of separation. As this is less than the 22MHz being utilised for 802.11DS, what sort of performance degradation am I likely to experience? Anyone got a handle on this issue? Cheers, Bob Edwards. From Alfred.Reynolds@dsto.defence.gov.au Wed Dec 5 19:13:18 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB5B649E0 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 19:12:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id fB63AHF11849 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 13:40:17 +1030 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 13:40:58 +1030 Received: from salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au (salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.9]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id NAA08866 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 13:35:19 +1030 (CST) Received: from fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au ([144.97.171.1]) by salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id WPPDBLYV; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 13:35:13 +1030 Received: by fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4WMNS729>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:04:24 +1100 Message-ID: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C065C278@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> From: "Reynolds, Alfred" To: wireless@samba.org Subject: RE: Channel usage Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:04:23 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Okay, I am going to take a long walk down a short jetty here, but doesn't the use of DSSS within the wireless lan cards mean that this isn't a major issue. The other base stations will raise the noise floor of the receiver but given the low powers and high rate chipping rates I suspect that the effects would be minimal. I would guess that when the IEEE designed the channels for 802.11 they did the calculations to make sure that a 1 channel separation provided enough attenuation on the base receiving frequency to remove any interference problems. > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Edwards [mailto:Robert.Edwards@anu.edu.au] > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 1:51 PM > To: wireless@samba.org > Subject: Channel usage > > > > I want to put more than three access points into an area where there > will be overlap in their coverage. > > At this time, I have three access points on channels 1, 6 and 11. As I > understand it, channel 1 is at 2412MHz and the separation between > channels is 5MHz. So the separation between channels 1 and 6 is 25MHz. > Each 802.11DS signal needs 22MHz of radio frequency > bandwidth, so using > channels 1, 6 and 11 means that the access points don't > overlap in their > use of radio bandwidth, and therefore don't interfere with each other > and so we get maximum channel utilisation. > > My question is this: > > If I use channels 1, 5, 9 and 13 in order to have four > distinct frequencies, > I only have 20MHz of separation. As this is less than the 22MHz being > utilised for 802.11DS, what sort of performance degradation > am I likely > to experience? > > Anyone got a handle on this issue? > > Cheers, > > Bob Edwards. > From tlangdon@atctraining.com.au Wed Dec 5 19:20:22 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au (gw2.atctraining.com.au [210.8.174.5]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65FF479C for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 19:20:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:21:46 +1100 Message-ID: From: Tony Langdon To: "'Reynolds, Alfred'" , wireless@samba.org Subject: RE: Channel usage Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:21:40 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Okay, I am going to take a long walk down a short jetty here, > but doesn't > the use of DSSS within the wireless lan cards mean that this > isn't a major > issue. The other base stations will raise the noise floor of > the receiver > but given the low powers and high rate chipping rates I > suspect that the > effects would be minimal. To some extent, this is true. However, there is a point where the extra noise floor caused by the interfering station exceeds that of the desired signal (i.e. the capture ratio may be -x dB, but it's not -infinite). > > I would guess that when the IEEE designed the channels for > 802.11 they did > the calculations to make sure that a 1 channel separation > provided enough > attenuation on the base receiving frequency to remove any interference > problems. I dunno if they expected multiple APs to be co located. IOW, the frequency separation may be OK for multiple networks sharing the same physical space, but not if two transmitters are co-located. On the positive side, it's likely you'll be OK, because you will be running gain antennas and you won't have APs in each others beam (the power off the side or back should be less than the normal omni case). --- Outgoing mail has been scanned for viruses Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.303 / Virus Database: 164 - Release Date: 24-Nov-01 From Robert.Edwards@anu.edu.au Wed Dec 5 19:24:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from cs.anu.edu.au (cs.anu.edu.au [150.203.164.35]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C93479C for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 19:24:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from anu.edu.au (tux [150.203.160.12]) by cs.anu.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA27062; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:22:20 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <3C0EE4A2.EE602E71@anu.edu.au> Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 14:23:14 +1100 From: Bob Edwards Organization: Australian National University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Reynolds, Alfred" Cc: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: Channel usage References: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C065C278@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: "Reynolds, Alfred" wrote: > > Okay, I am going to take a long walk down a short jetty here, but doesn't > the use of DSSS within the wireless lan cards mean that this isn't a major > issue. The other base stations will raise the noise floor of the receiver > but given the low powers and high rate chipping rates I suspect that the > effects would be minimal. > > I would guess that when the IEEE designed the channels for 802.11 they did > the calculations to make sure that a 1 channel separation provided enough > attenuation on the base receiving frequency to remove any interference > problems. > Thanks for this response, Alfred. Possibly, this is a good guess, although it is possible that the channel separations were chosen to provide enough resolution to move 802.11 gear away from other emitters in the ISM band, such as cordless phones and other equipment, not necessarily to provide adequate separation of discrete 802.11 channels. I am only guessing as well. The other factor, pointed out in Tony Langdon's response, is that I am using the same ESSID (and hence, chipping code) on all access points, so it is possible that this will not help in keeping the noise floor low. Cheers, Bob Edwards. From tlangdon@atctraining.com.au Wed Dec 5 19:26:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au (gw2.atctraining.com.au [210.8.174.5]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2243F479C for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 19:26:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:27:58 +1100 Message-ID: From: Tony Langdon To: 'Bob Edwards' , "Reynolds, Alfred" Cc: wireless@samba.org Subject: RE: Channel usage Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:27:56 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > The other factor, pointed out in Tony Langdon's response, is that I am > using the same ESSID (and hence, chipping code) on all access > points, so > it is possible that this will not help in keeping the noise floor low. That won't help. You need the different chipping codes to get those negative capture ratios. --- Outgoing mail has been scanned for viruses Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.303 / Virus Database: 164 - Release Date: 24-Nov-01 From Alfred.Reynolds@dsto.defence.gov.au Wed Dec 5 19:32:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02E64161 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 19:32:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id fB63UOF13414 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:00:24 +1030 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:01:01 +1030 Received: from salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au (salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.9]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id NAA03959 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 13:56:49 +1030 (CST) Received: from fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au ([144.97.171.1]) by salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id WPPDBMJ4; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 13:56:45 +1030 Received: by fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4WMNS7JS>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:25:56 +1100 Message-ID: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C065C279@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> From: "Reynolds, Alfred" To: wireless@samba.org Subject: RE: Channel usage Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:25:52 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: After talking to more knowledgeable people around me and reading this email I think the answer is maybe ;) The DSSS gives you a system gain for a transmitter on the same freq (of about 10 dB I believe). So, if your AP's are distant from each other (put the two overlapping AP's as far apart as possible) then hopefully the gain will allow you to operate at higher speeds. Use of directional antenna is also useful :) Or reducing the power output of a AP (if possible). I believe there may also be an issue with the chipping codes not being orthogonal to each other causing problems with the system gain, I don't know details however :( > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Langdon [mailto:tlangdon@atctraining.com.au] > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 2:22 PM > To: 'Reynolds, Alfred'; wireless@samba.org > Subject: RE: Channel usage > > > > Okay, I am going to take a long walk down a short jetty here, > > but doesn't > > the use of DSSS within the wireless lan cards mean that this > > isn't a major > > issue. The other base stations will raise the noise floor of > > the receiver > > but given the low powers and high rate chipping rates I > > suspect that the > > effects would be minimal. > > To some extent, this is true. However, there is a point > where the extra > noise floor caused by the interfering station exceeds that of > the desired > signal (i.e. the capture ratio may be -x dB, but it's not -infinite). > > > > > I would guess that when the IEEE designed the channels for > > 802.11 they did > > the calculations to make sure that a 1 channel separation > > provided enough > > attenuation on the base receiving frequency to remove any > interference > > problems. > > I dunno if they expected multiple APs to be co located. IOW, > the frequency > separation may be OK for multiple networks sharing the same > physical space, > but not if two transmitters are co-located. > > On the positive side, it's likely you'll be OK, because you > will be running > gain antennas and you won't have APs in each others beam (the > power off the > side or back should be less than the normal omni case). > > --- > Outgoing mail has been scanned for viruses > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.303 / Virus Database: 164 - Release Date: 24-Nov-01 > > From tlangdon@atctraining.com.au Wed Dec 5 19:35:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au (gw2.atctraining.com.au [210.8.174.5]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A864161 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 19:35:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:37:08 +1100 Message-ID: From: Tony Langdon To: "'Reynolds, Alfred'" , wireless@samba.org Subject: RE: Channel usage Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:36:58 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > I believe there may also be an issue with the chipping codes not being > orthogonal to each other causing problems with the system > gain, I don't know > details however :( It's the difference in chipping codes that gives the processing gain, because the signals are no longer correlated with each other. If they are correlated, you lost that benefit and have to space your APs further apart to get the same performance. --- Outgoing mail has been scanned for viruses Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.303 / Virus Database: 164 - Release Date: 24-Nov-01 From Robert.Edwards@anu.edu.au Wed Dec 5 20:39:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from cs.anu.edu.au (cs.anu.edu.au [150.203.164.35]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10E84119 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 20:39:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from anu.edu.au (tux [150.203.160.12]) by cs.anu.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27890; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:37:44 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <3C0EF64F.31673041@anu.edu.au> Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 15:38:39 +1100 From: Bob Edwards Organization: Australian National University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tony Langdon Cc: "'Reynolds, Alfred'" , wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: Channel usage References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Tony Langdon wrote: > > I dunno if they expected multiple APs to be co located. IOW, the frequency > separation may be OK for multiple networks sharing the same physical space, > but not if two transmitters are co-located. > > On the positive side, it's likely you'll be OK, because you will be running > gain antennas and you won't have APs in each others beam (the power off the > side or back should be less than the normal omni case). > Thanks for your input Tony. Just to clarify my situation, I am not actually co-locating the APs, just spreading more and more around our building. I need to keep coverage of the whole building. Clearly, I am not using gain antenna, they are all standard omni's. It's a bit like the four-colour map-colouring problem - only now I am working in 3 dimensions (3 storey building with APs on each level). I'm going to try reducing the channel spacing to use channels 1, 5, 9 and 13. I should get 18MHz of clear radio bandwidth between these channels, hopefully enough to keep it all working at 11Mbps per AP simultaneously. Cheers, Bob Edwards. From tlangdon@atctraining.com.au Wed Dec 5 20:43:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au (gw2.atctraining.com.au [210.8.174.5]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF48B54CD for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 20:43:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:45:04 +1100 Message-ID: From: Tony Langdon To: 'Bob Edwards' , Tony Langdon Cc: "'Reynolds, Alfred'" , wireless@samba.org Subject: RE: Channel usage Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:45:02 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > > Just to clarify my situation, I am not actually co-locating the APs, > just spreading more and more around our building. I need to keep > coverage of the whole building. Clearly, I am not using gain antenna, > they are all standard omni's. > > It's a bit like the four-colour map-colouring problem - only now I > am working in 3 dimensions (3 storey building with APs on each level). > > I'm going to try reducing the channel spacing to use channels > 1, 5, 9 and 13. > I should get 18MHz of clear radio bandwidth between these > channels, hopefully > enough to keep it all working at 11Mbps per AP simultaneously. Oh, OK. They should be designed for this sort of thing. Are the different frequencies representing different networks or subnets? --- Outgoing mail has been scanned for viruses Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.303 / Virus Database: 164 - Release Date: 24-Nov-01 From bruce@basser0.cs.usyd.edu.au Wed Dec 5 20:48:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from staff.cs.usyd.edu.au (staff.cs.usyd.edu.au [129.78.8.1]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E25E754D7 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 20:48:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 15:42:00 +1100 From: bruce@cs.usyd.edu.au (Bruce Janson) Subject: Re: Channel usage To: wireless@samba.org Message-Id: <20011206044848.E25E754D7@lists.samba.org> Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: From wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Thu Dec 06 15:39:23 2001 ... Just to clarify my situation, I am not actually co-locating the APs, just spreading more and more around our building. I need to keep coverage of the whole building. Clearly, I am not using gain antenna, they are all standard omni's. It's a bit like the four-colour map-colouring problem ... Yes, it feels exactly like that. No doubt the digital mobile 'phone people (Do they use DSSS or FHSS?) encountered it early on and devised interesting solutions. I'm going to try reducing the channel spacing to use channels 1, 5, 9 and 13. I should get 18MHz of clear radio bandwidth between these channels, hopefully enough to keep it all working at 11Mbps per AP simultaneously. ... And please let us know how you fare. From tlangdon@atctraining.com.au Wed Dec 5 20:51:28 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au (gw2.atctraining.com.au [210.8.174.5]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E4054DD for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 20:51:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:52:53 +1100 Message-ID: From: Tony Langdon To: "'bruce@cs.usyd.edu.au'" , wireless@samba.org Subject: RE: Channel usage Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:52:51 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Yes, it feels exactly like that. > No doubt the digital mobile 'phone people (Do they use DSSS or FHSS?) > encountered it early on and devised interesting solutions. GSM uses TDMA (not SS at all), I think CDMA uses DSSS. > > I'm going to try reducing the channel spacing to use > channels 1, 5, 9 and 13. > I should get 18MHz of clear radio bandwidth between these > channels, hopefully > enough to keep it all working at 11Mbps per AP simultaneously. > ... > > And please let us know how you fare. > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.303 / Virus Database: 164 - Release Date: 24-Nov-01 > > --- Outgoing mail has been scanned for viruses Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.303 / Virus Database: 164 - Release Date: 24-Nov-01 From alex@topic.com.au Wed Dec 5 22:29:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from mailhost.topic.com.au (topic-gw2.topic.com.au [203.37.31.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 032D042F9 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 22:29:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.topic.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDDFFF009; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 17:28:34 +1100 (EST) Received: from pinky.tsa (pinky.tsa [10.1.0.205]) by mailhost.topic.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA2AFF008; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 17:28:30 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 17:28:05 +1100 Subject: Re: Channel usage Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v472) Cc: wireless@samba.org To: Bob Edwards From: Alex Satrapa In-Reply-To: <3C0EF64F.31673041@anu.edu.au> Message-Id: <684F87B0-EA12-11D5-BE1E-0050E4C03462@topic.com.au> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.472) X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20010714 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thursday, December 6, 2001, at 03:38 , Bob Edwards wrote: > Just to clarify my situation, I am not actually co-locating the APs, > just spreading more and more around our building. ... > It's a bit like the four-colour map-colouring problem - only now I > am working in 3 dimensions (3 storey building with APs on each level). My (naive) approach would be to base channel proximity on inverse physical proximity. So if you have "East/West" and "Up/Down" as your axes of the building, place them as such: 1 E/U 5 W/D 9 E/D 13 W/U Thus the chance of interference is minimised by the fact that you've got more concrete and steel in the way. Where the cartographer has four fixed colours, you have the option of changing your ink to be invisible from certain directions - one article I've read about wireless hubs suggest such putting a specially designed antenna on the hub which flattens its signal out (so rather than being a dougnut it's a pita bread), then reduce the signal strength. The article - "Antennas Enhance WLAN Security" - http://www.byte.com/documents/s=1422/byt20010926s0002/1001_marshall.html This would indicate that using vertical polarisation is especially useful for the instance where you're connecting laptops through these things. 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Thanks & Best regards Company name: hangzhou tianba electronics co.,ltd Contact person: Mr Wang Tel: 0086-571-64691888 Fax: 0086-571-64691108 If this message is troubesome,please delete it From www@cb-kc.hichina.com Wed Dec 5 23:56:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from cb-kc.hichina.com (unknown [211.99.187.76]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E022F553B for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 23:56:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by cb-kc.hichina.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id fB67jkC14074; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:45:46 +0800 (CST) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:45:46 +0800 (CST) Message-Id: <200112060745.fB67jkC14074@cb-kc.hichina.com> To: wireless@samba.org Subject: SUPPLY COAXIAL CABLE From: Mr Wang Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Dear Madam/Sir Our corporation¡ªhangzhou tianba electronics co.,ltd¡ªspecializes in manufacturing cables. The primary products: series of SYWV(Y)¡ª75 physical foaming coaxial cable, series of SYWLY¡ª75 seamless aluminum tube packaging cable, RG series coaxial cable used in cutting into the network, series of ordinary¡¢four layer frequency screen and messenger cable. We have self-support imports and exports right. Our corporation also produce antennas¡¢seamless CATV equipment¡¢varied aluminum tube¡¢copper tube and flat copper wire. Thanks & Best regards Company name: hangzhou tianba electronics co.,ltd Contact person: Mr Wang Tel: 0086-571-64691888 Fax: 0086-571-64691108 If this message is troubesome,please delete it From www@cb-kc.hichina.com Wed Dec 5 23:56:09 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from cb-kc.hichina.com (unknown [211.99.187.76]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E87405532 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 23:56:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by cb-kc.hichina.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id fB67jUI14005; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:45:30 +0800 (CST) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:45:30 +0800 (CST) Message-Id: <200112060745.fB67jUI14005@cb-kc.hichina.com> To: wireless@samba.org Subject: SUPPLY COAXIAL CABLE From: Mr Wang Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Dear Madam/Sir Our corporation¡ªhangzhou tianba electronics co.,ltd¡ªspecializes in manufacturing cables. The primary products: series of SYWV(Y)¡ª75 physical foaming coaxial cable, series of SYWLY¡ª75 seamless aluminum tube packaging cable, RG series coaxial cable used in cutting into the network, series of ordinary¡¢four layer frequency screen and messenger cable. We have self-support imports and exports right. Our corporation also produce antennas¡¢seamless CATV equipment¡¢varied aluminum tube¡¢copper tube and flat copper wire. Thanks & Best regards Company name: hangzhou tianba electronics co.,ltd Contact person: Mr Wang Tel: 0086-571-64691888 Fax: 0086-571-64691108 If this message is troubesome,please delete it From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Thu Dec 6 11:00:28 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576B75624 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 11:00:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id KAA16477; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 10:59:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id KAA29651; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 10:59:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16C3jt-0004cD-00; Thu, 06 Dec 2001 10:59:21 -0800 Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 10:59:21 -0800 To: Stefan Winter Cc: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: wireless stuff Message-ID: <20011206105921.G17626@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com References: <200111142248.31927@stefan-winter.de> <20011114142040.A5854@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <200112060849.30116@stefan-winter.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200112060849.30116@stefan-winter.de>; from mail@stefan-winter.de on Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 08:57:11AM +0100 Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 08:57:11AM +0100, Stefan Winter wrote: > Hello Jean, > > > No idea. It doesn't seem to be easilly available from within > > the driver (I didn't see any RID to that effect). Moreover, it's > > likely to be a proprietary extension. For example, Cisco stuff display > > the IP address and not the name. > > I've ben looking into this a little. This "name" you get is just the > nslookup'ed IP adress of the access point. If there is no DNS entry in your > nameserver for that IP, you get only the ip. So, the problem is reduced to > "how do I get the AP's IP?" > I guess a tcpdump could do this, but thats not a "clean" solution. Any ideas? RARP ? Not nice either. > I have come across a completely different thing: a VERY strange > misbehaviour... > If (use an ELSA WLAN ) && (have newest firmware on APs) && (client runs > Linux) && (APs have set an option named "Station surveillance to detect > inactive clients" ) then CLIENT CRASHES WITHOUT NOTICE. For some fellow > students, it is even more strange: on runlevel 3 it crashes, on 5 it does a > reboot... > On windows machines, this option doesn't cause any trouble. The error is > reproducable (for weeks now). Now I just don't have any idea why... the > orinoco_cs driver ? maybe the pcmcia core? or even a kernel thing? I don't > have a clue. Can you make anything of this? Hu ? I don't know about this option. Probably some invalid frame comming up the stack. Need to do more checks in rx_handler or something. > Stefan Winter Jean From brad@congosystems.com Fri Dec 7 00:56:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailin8.bigpond.com (mailin8.bigpond.com [139.134.6.96]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C6DE469F for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 00:56:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from badnote ([144.135.24.69]) by mailin8.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GNYUFN00.FQH for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 19:02:11 +1000 Received: from 144.137.6.62 ([144.137.6.62]) by bwmam01.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9k 8311/605832); 07 Dec 2001 18:55:19 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Brad Hubbard Reply-To: brad@congosystems.com Organization: Congo Systems To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: SUPPLY COAXIAL CABLE Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 19:55:17 +1100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <200112060745.fB67jUI14005@cb-kc.hichina.com> In-Reply-To: <200112060745.fB67jUI14005@cb-kc.hichina.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01120719551703.01129@badnote> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 18:45, Mr Wang wrote: Mr Wang? ("It's a joke name.... like Biggus Dickus". "I have a very great friend in Rome named Biggus Dickus"...... errr..... let's not go there) Does he think if he posts seven times he'll get seven times the sales? Cheers, Brad From fad@fad.homeip.net Fri Dec 7 15:28:15 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from fad.homeip.net (mitax3-162.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.115.162]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 865384BCF for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 15:27:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop [10.0.0.1] by fad.homeip.net [127.0.0.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.5.3.R) for ; Sat, 08 Dec 2001 10:23:33 +1100 Message-ID: <00b001c17f76$304289a0$0a00000a@laptop> From: "fad" To: References: <20011207200226.EB41F5715@lists.samba.org> Subject: my experience with a compaq wl110 Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 10:20:54 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-MDRemoteIP: 10.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: fad@fad.homeip.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I just thought i would share my experiences with a compaq wl110, and a cardbus TI pci adapter, the adapter worked fine in linux 2.2.18pre21, however i couldnt get anything to compile, i tried orinoco-0.08b and the lucent half binary drivers. After alot of stuffing around i installed 2.4.12 kernel, which was a bit involoved, along with pcmcia-cs 3.1.15 and wireless tools 22, These were in my apt /etc/apt/sources.list file deb http://people.debian.org/~bunk/debian potato main deb-src http://people.debian.org/~bunk/debian potato main They allow an upgrade to 2.4 from 2.2 all you need it a apt-get update apt-get upgrade, there are some packages which die in 2.4 like ppp and ipmasq, this will fix it, you also need to upgrade a libc. Anyway after getting the kernel to work, remember to set the required kernel options on the compile, (kernels at www.kernels.org) compile and install the pcmcia-cs and wireless tools, there should be drivers in your kernel, if you compile them, else get the orinoco-0.08b drivers. if you can insmod the orinoco_cs.o , where you first load hermes.o and orinoco.o first, then your card is there. you will need to now set some options into /etc/pcmcia there are examples for /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts I had to add this to the /etc/pcmcia/hermes.conf, my compaq card was first undetected as unknown, and then as a prism II card, which is fine but the driver was wvlan_cs.o, and i wanted orinoco_cs.o so i editied it with -- # First class of device : Lucent & OEM card "Orinoco or Intersil Prism 2 Wireless" manfid 0x0156,0x0002 bind "orinoco_cs" finally all you need to do is set /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts and network.opts and as a result i now have a wireless card, :)) I found it very hard to find information on this, about why i needed to upgrade and why the drivers which were back ported wouldnt work in 2.2.18 so this might help someone, -fad ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:10:4B:2F:E1:81 inet addr:10.0.0.1 Bcast:10.0.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:2991013 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:3480055 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 Interrupt:11 Base address:0xde00 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:02:A5:6E:62:12 inet addr:10.0.1.1 Bcast:10.0.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:33472 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:48983 errors:4 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 Interrupt:5 Base address:0x100 iwconfig eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"my network" Nickname:"router" Mode:Ad-Hoc Frequency:2.457GHz Cell: 02:02:A5:6E:62:12 Bit Rate:11Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity:1/3 Retry limit:4 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Encryption key:off Power Management:off ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- its nice to be important but its more important to be nice ------------------------------------- fad.homeip.net From fad@fad.homeip.net Fri Dec 7 15:38:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from fad.homeip.net (mitax3-162.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.115.162]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94A54B9F for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 15:38:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop [10.0.0.1] by fad.homeip.net [127.0.0.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.5.3.R) for ; Sat, 08 Dec 2001 10:34:09 +1100 Message-ID: <00d801c17f77$ab051f80$0a00000a@laptop> From: "fad" To: Subject: Fw: Nokia 6210 Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 10:34:08 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-MDRemoteIP: 10.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: fad@fad.homeip.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- its nice to be important but its more important to be nice ----- Original Message ----- From: "j0se" Newsgroups: aus.ads.forsale,aus.ads.forsale.computers.new Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 6:40 PM Subject: FS: Nokia 6210 > Hi, > > I have a Green Nokia 6210 Forsale. > Includes Charger & Car Charger > > In perfect condition. > Located in Sydney > > Reasonable offers only please > > j0se > > j0se@innocent.com > > ------------------------------------- fad.homeip.net From fad@fad.homeip.net Fri Dec 7 15:38:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from fad.homeip.net (mitax3-162.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.115.162]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E40EE4BA0 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 15:38:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop [10.0.0.1] by fad.homeip.net [127.0.0.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.5.3.R) for ; Sat, 08 Dec 2001 10:34:17 +1100 Message-ID: <00de01c17f77$b02ed6e0$0a00000a@laptop> From: "fad" To: Subject: Fw: [SYD] Plextor 24x10x40 internal $480 ono Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 10:34:17 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-MDRemoteIP: 10.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: fad@fad.homeip.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- its nice to be important but its more important to be nice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Griftr_" Newsgroups: aus.ads.forsale,aus.ads.forsale.computers.new Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 4:21 PM Subject: FS: [SYD] Plextor 24x10x40 internal $480 ono > rolls royce brand of cdroms :-) (imho) > > Product details: > http://www.plextor.com/english/products/24_10_40A.html > > Reviews: > http://www.cdfreaks.com/document.php3?Doc=53 > http://www.cdrlabs.com/review.php3?reviewid=66 > > Site that (attempts to) list the best price for items online in australia > http://www.techwatch.com.au/features/insidepc/ > (search for plextor under the CD/CD-R/CD-RW section $599) > > prefer sydney, melbourne, brisbane or tas buyer > > still packaged, unused, unopened. > > $480 > > ------------------------------------- fad.homeip.net From sam@topic.com.au Fri Dec 7 21:20:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailhost.topic.com.au (topic-gw2.topic.com.au [203.37.31.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AABC44172 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 21:20:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.topic.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38726FF00E for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 16:19:22 +1100 (EST) Received: from krusty.tsa (krusty.tsa [10.1.0.80]) by mailhost.topic.com.au (Postfix) with SMTP id A81AEFF009 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 16:19:18 +1100 (EST) Received: by krusty.tsa (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 8 Dec 2001 16:19:18 +1100 From: Sam Couter Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 16:19:18 +1100 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: SUPPLY COAXIAL CABLE Message-ID: <20011208051918.GA30030@mailhost.topic.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <200112060745.fB67jUI14005@cb-kc.hichina.com> <01120719551703.01129@badnote> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="azLHFNyN32YCQGCU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <01120719551703.01129@badnote> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.9-ac14 on a i686 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20010714 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brad Hubbard wrote: >=20 > Does he think if he posts seven times he'll get seven times the sales? That's the way the spammer's mind works. That's why he sends out millions of messages in the first place. He needs less than a 1% hit rate to make it worth his time, and each message he sends is very cheap (for him). --=20 Sam Couter | Internet Engineer | http://www.topic.com.au/ sam@topic.com.au | tSA Consulting | OpenPGP key ID: DE89C75C, available on key servers OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8EaLWhTADrt6Jx1wRArTRAJ9tiqXps2RT+o8ydCfM3kgmgVcgsACeNZ84 +XegJqUhse/AOY8wGX9WBpI= =Q5vT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU-- From fad@fad.homeip.net Sat Dec 8 02:48:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from fad.homeip.net (mitax3-200.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.115.200]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C754640C4 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 02:48:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop [10.0.0.1] by fad.homeip.net [127.0.0.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.5.3.R) for ; Sat, 08 Dec 2001 21:44:09 +1100 Message-ID: <017901c17fd5$4408e600$0a00000a@laptop> From: "fad" To: Subject: Re: [SYD] Plextor 24x10x40 internal $480 ono (sorry) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 21:44:08 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-MDRemoteIP: 10.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: fad@fad.homeip.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, im sorry i didnt mean to send this to this, ive got my personal list and this one are mixed in the address book, ive very sorry, this isnt even mine, i was just send it to some friends -fad ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- its nice to be important but its more important to be nice ----- Original Message ----- From: "fad" To: Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 10:34 AM Subject: Fw: [SYD] Plextor 24x10x40 internal $480 ono > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ----------- > its nice to be important but its more important to be nice > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Griftr_" > Newsgroups: aus.ads.forsale,aus.ads.forsale.computers.new > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 4:21 PM > Subject: FS: [SYD] Plextor 24x10x40 internal $480 ono > > > > rolls royce brand of cdroms :-) (imho) > > > > Product details: > > http://www.plextor.com/english/products/24_10_40A.html > > > > Reviews: > > http://www.cdfreaks.com/document.php3?Doc=53 > > http://www.cdrlabs.com/review.php3?reviewid=66 > > > > Site that (attempts to) list the best price for items online in australia > > http://www.techwatch.com.au/features/insidepc/ > > (search > > > > > ------------------------------------- fad.homeip.net From fad@fad.homeip.net Sat Dec 8 02:48:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from fad.homeip.net (mitax3-200.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.115.200]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461C84281 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 02:48:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop [10.0.0.1] by fad.homeip.net [127.0.0.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.5.3.R) for ; Sat, 08 Dec 2001 21:44:45 +1100 Message-ID: <018601c17fd5$595e5300$0a00000a@laptop> From: "fad" To: Subject: Re: Nokia 6210 Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 21:44:44 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-MDRemoteIP: 10.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: fad@fad.homeip.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: same with this one, again very sorry -fad ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- its nice to be important but its more important to be nice ----- Original Message ----- From: "fad" To: Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 10:34 AM Subject: Fw: Nokia 6210 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ----------- > its nice to be important but its more important to be nice > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "j0se" > Newsgroups: aus.ads.forsale,aus.ads.forsale.computers.new > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 6:40 PM > Subject: FS: Nokia 6210 > > > > Hi, > > > > I have a Green Nokia 6210 Forsale. > > Includes Charger & Car Charger > > > > In perfect condition. > > Located in Sydney > > > > Reasonable offers only please > > > > j0se > > > > j0se@innocent.com > > > > > ------------------------------------- fad.homeip.net From kleptog@svana.org Sun Dec 9 03:53:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E87364108 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 03:53:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16D2VC-0006jP-00; Sun, 09 Dec 2001 22:52:14 +1100 Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 22:52:14 +1100 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: Wireless List Subject: Strange Lucent stuff Message-ID: <20011209225214.A25804@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Got hold of some Orinoco wireless cards and put one in a windows laptop and one in my linux laptop. Now I know that those cards support ad-hoc mode because linux can do it. Also, the included documentation for Mac and MS-DOS explicitly say it. If somebody knows how to make windows go ad-hoc, let me know. (A google search seems to indicate editing the registry is sufficient, is that correct? No program?). Anyway, we set the windows machine to peer-to-peer mode, which sounds like it should be ad-hoc, but it's not. I'm not sure how it worked but we could ping eachother, even though we were both in *managed* mode and there was no access point in the area. Running iwconfig on my laptop showed that it thought the windows laptop was the access point. Anyone know how this works? (A google search shows other people seeing this, but no explanation...) Finally, in windows the orinoco card comes with some tools, including one that can do a link. Amazingly the link test works. My laptop showed up and it could get signal level values for it and everything. But *only* if it's *not* in promiscuous mode (tcpdump). Start tcpdump, the test stops working, stop tcpdump, the test starts working again. Wierd huh? -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Terrorists can only take my life. Only my government can take my freedom. From fad@fad.homeip.net Sun Dec 9 14:19:28 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from fad.homeip.net (mitax3-198.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.115.198]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CAE84468 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 14:19:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop [10.0.0.1] by fad.homeip.net [127.0.0.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.5.3.R) for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 09:06:09 +1100 Message-ID: <007001c180fd$b53c1760$0a00000a@laptop> From: "fad" To: References: <20011209200541.BED074677@lists.samba.org> Subject: Strange Lucent stuff (Martijn van Oosterhout) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 09:06:08 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-MDRemoteIP: 10.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: fad@fad.homeip.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > From: Martijn van Oosterhout > To: Wireless List > Subject: Strange Lucent stuff > Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout > > Got hold of some Orinoco wireless cards and put one in a windows laptop and > one in my linux laptop. Now I know that those cards support ad-hoc mode > because linux can do it. Also, the included documentation for Mac and MS-DOS > explicitly say it. If somebody knows how to make windows go ad-hoc, let me > know. (A google search seems to indicate editing the registry is sufficient, > is that correct? No program?). Ive got a compaq card with is a rebadged lucent card, in win 95 98 2000, i used the compaq configuration program, in win xp, it has wireless setup stuff installed with the os, i found a key called OwnerSID and it is set to my SID for my network in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft > > Anyway, we set the windows machine to peer-to-peer mode, which sounds like > it should be ad-hoc, but it's not. I'm not sure how it worked but we could > ping eachother, even though we were both in *managed* mode and there was no > access point in the area. Running iwconfig on my laptop showed that it > thought the windows laptop was the access point. Anyone know how this works? > (A google search shows other people seeing this, but no explanation...) > > Finally, in windows the orinoco card comes with some tools, including one > that can do a link. Amazingly the link test works. My laptop showed up and > it could get signal level values for it and everything. But *only* if it's > *not* in promiscuous mode (tcpdump). Start tcpdump, the test stops working, > stop tcpdump, the test starts working again. Wierd huh? mine works when i run tcpdump on my eth1 the wireless card, very strange, ive found the linux drivers to be a bit odd sometimes, with reporting of speed > -- > Martijn van Oosterhout > http://svana.org/kleptog/ ------------------------------------- fad.homeip.net From saj@jumbotech.com Sun Dec 9 21:03:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from hosting-network.com (unknown [64.38.117.126]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B16DB438B for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 21:00:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 28402 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2001 04:55:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO waters) (67.162.171.41) by node-149.hosting-network.com with SMTP; 10 Dec 2001 04:55:51 -0000 From: "Scott James" To: Subject: Avaya/Orinoco Silver: NETDEV WATCHDOG: Tx timeout, reset card -- why? Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 23:59:24 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I've been struggling to setup: Orinoco/Avaya Silver PC card (Prism2), with Lucent PCI PCMCIA adapter (i Mandrake 8.1 Kernel (2.4.8) pcmcia-cs latest (3.1.29) /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start [this creates eth2 with 'normal looking' values] The original default was the wvlan_cs module which also gave me these errors. I finally configured the orinoco_cs module (with depmod) and still get the WATCHDOG errors. What is NETDEV WATCHDOG? Why does it continue to reset my card every 5 seconds? iwconfig and ipconfig give "real" values, but I still can't ping to an external host. I'm using two LAN adapters for internal LAN (eth0) and Cable modem (eth1), both work fine. thanks! Scott James saj@jumbotech.com From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Mon Dec 10 09:46:32 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F69B473B for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 09:46:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id JAA15639 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 09:45:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id JAA08386 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 09:45:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16DUUQ-0005NB-00 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 09:45:18 -0800 Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 09:45:18 -0800 To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re : Strange Lucent stuff Message-ID: <20011210094518.B20595@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Martijn van Oosterhout wrote : > Anyway, we set the windows machine to peer-to-peer mode, which sounds like > it should be ad-hoc, but it's not. I'm not sure how it worked but we could > ping eachother, even though we were both in *managed* mode You haven't read the Howto or the driver release notes on my web page. You are mixing Ad-Hoc demo and IBSS Ad-Hoc modes. Jean From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Mon Dec 10 09:48:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005914AA0 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 09:47:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id JAA15743 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 09:46:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id JAA08695 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 09:46:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16DUVq-0005NP-00 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 09:46:46 -0800 Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 09:46:46 -0800 To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re : Avaya/Orinoco Silver: NETDEV WATCHDOG: Tx Message-ID: <20011210094646.C20595@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Scott James wrote : > The original default was the wvlan_cs module which also gave me these > errors. > I finally configured the orinoco_cs module (with depmod) and still get the > WATCHDOG errors. The cause is the PCI-Pcmcia bridge. Check Pcmcia forums or Pcmcia Howto for details. Jean From t__e__g@hotmail.com Tue Dec 11 03:39:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from hotmail.com (unknown [207.68.163.103]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51B6C4DDB for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 03:33:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 03:31:57 -0800 Received: from 198.240.128.75 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:31:56 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.240.128.75] From: "Tom Gallagher" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Suggestions : Wireless Modem Access Point Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:31:56 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Dec 2001 11:31:57.0107 (UTC) FILETIME=[70D78830:01C18237] Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Heres my scenario : - I am going to buy some wireless LAN cards soon for my small flat (Linux and Win98 desktop PCs + laptop in the future) and I would like to buy a modem access point. I would like a small box that I can sit by my phone socket and then access the internet from any PC in the flat. I have looked at the Buffalo airstation range and also the apple airport. Can anyone offer an opinion on these two products? Flexibility of configuration, ability to configure from Linux, ability to masquerade many network protocols (IRC, ICQ, FTP etc as well as just HTTP), quality of product, speed obtained in real world situations etc etc. I have read reviews on zdnet etc but they are often light on technical detail. Are there any other wireless access modem products? I haven't found any documentation/reviews that say how these devices are configured in terms of auto dialling, hang-up timeouts etc etc. I was also worried about security of not allowing my neighbours to use my phone line for the internet! In practice what is the likely hood of this. I read the "long rant" thread on this and it seems for home use security is not much of an issue. I have no wireless experience at all. Thanks for your time Tom _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From kleptog@svana.org Tue Dec 11 04:43:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64404222 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 04:43:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16DmEI-0000ZO-00; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 23:41:50 +1100 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 23:41:50 +1100 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: jt@hpl.hp.com Cc: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: Re : Strange Lucent stuff Message-ID: <20011211234150.C1229@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout References: <20011210094518.B20595@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011210094518.B20595@bougret.hpl.hp.com>; from jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com on Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 09:45:18AM -0800 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 09:45:18AM -0800, Jean Tourrilhes wrote: > Martijn van Oosterhout wrote : > > Anyway, we set the windows machine to peer-to-peer mode, which sounds like > > it should be ad-hoc, but it's not. I'm not sure how it worked but we could > > ping eachother, even though we were both in *managed* mode > > You haven't read the Howto or the driver release notes on my > web page. You are mixing Ad-Hoc demo and IBSS Ad-Hoc modes. True, though reading that just tells me that it's not supposed to work at all. I'm running firmware 6.04, which doesn't have the IBSS Ad-Hoc mode. The other end is running 7.x so maybe there is some interoperability possible. I'm thinking of upgrading the firmware but see no indication of whether that's possible in linux. -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Terrorists can only take my life. Only my government can take my freedom. From jcollins@asgardsrealm.net Tue Dec 11 05:14:16 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from asgardsrealm.net (24-148-71-77.na.21stcentury.net [24.148.71.77]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 589E34DC6 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 05:14:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 29148 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2001 13:13:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.10.105?) (192.168.10.105) by 0 with SMTP; 11 Dec 2001 13:13:23 -0000 Subject: Re: Suggestions : Wireless Modem Access Point From: "Jamin W. Collins" To: wireless@lists.samba.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 11 Dec 2001 07:05:24 -0600 Message-Id: <1008075924.5975.3.camel@thor.asgardsrealm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, 2001-12-11 at 05:31, Tom Gallagher wrote: > Heres my scenario : - > I am going to buy some wireless LAN cards soon for my small flat (Linux and > Win98 desktop PCs + laptop in the future) and I would like to buy a modem > access point. I would like a small box that I can sit by my phone socket and > then access the internet from any PC in the flat. I probably tend a little towards over-kill in these situations, but I've never really been a fan of plug-in network appliances. IMO, they always tend to constrain you in one way or another to what the manufacturer thought was needed. Why not rather take an older PC and configure it to provide access to the internet via your phone line? This way you'd be in full control of the connection and be able to impliment any kind of access control you wanted. If you found that something was quite right you'd also have the freedom (and most likely the means available) to change it. > I was also worried about security of not allowing my neighbours to use my > phone line for the internet! In practice what is the likely hood of this. I > read the "long rant" thread on this and it seems for home use security is > not much of an issue. I'm not much of a wireless buff, I can only speak for my own experience. I rather recently installed a Wireless Access Point in my apartment (upper two floors of a coachhouse) for use with our two laptops. Shortly after this, I started experiencing what I thought were odd connectivity issues. That is until I checked my IP address. By remvoing and reinserting my Wireless NIC at various points in the apartement I found three diferrent Wireless Access Points within range. All of which allowed seamless Internet access through them. The only thing that brought it to my attention at the time was my inability to reach my internal hosts. So, to say that home use security is not much of an issue would be a rather nasty mistake in my book. Jamin W. Collins From tlangdon@atctraining.com.au Tue Dec 11 13:21:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au (gw2.atctraining.com.au [210.8.174.5]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB4514663 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 13:21:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 08:23:11 +1100 Message-ID: From: Tony Langdon To: 'Tom Gallagher' , wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: Suggestions : Wireless Modem Access Point Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 08:23:06 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Heres my scenario : - > I am going to buy some wireless LAN cards soon for my small > flat (Linux and > Win98 desktop PCs + laptop in the future) and I would like to > buy a modem > access point. I would like a small box that I can sit by my > phone socket and > then access the internet from any PC in the flat. A Linux box configured for dial on demand will offer all you need and works quite well. I uses a dial on demand router for a number of years, before upgrading to cable (and use another Linux box for that). My network is wired, but the principles are the same for a wireless network. > network protocols (IRC, ICQ, FTP etc as well as just HTTP), This is where you can't go past the Linux solution - it can be made to masquerade a mind boggling array of protocols (Care to netmeetng someone from yout wireless notebook? :) ). > documentation/reviews that say how these devices are > configured in terms of > auto dialling, hang-up timeouts etc etc. Look at diald for Linux, it's highly configurable in this regard. > I was also worried about security of not allowing my > neighbours to use my > phone line for the internet! In practice what is the likely > hood of this. I Run WEP and make sure you change your network ID from the card default. --- Outgoing mail has been scanned for viruses Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.303 / Virus Database: 164 - Release Date: 24-Nov-01 From penso@linuxfr.org Tue Dec 11 13:41:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from zobe.linuxfr.org (zobe.linuxfr.org [213.193.17.3]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2AA4162 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 13:41:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by zobe.linuxfr.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id C56101580C; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 22:41:22 +0100 (CET) Received: by houston.linuxfr.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7B86715DA; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 22:32:45 +0100 (CET) From: Fabien Penso To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Suggestions : Wireless Modem Access Point References: Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-PGP-Fingerprint: E394 1C70 C7F9 B740 CD2E FAC2 18CD 25A5 22F3 8AF3 Organization: LinuxFr - http://linuxfr.org X-Face: &(.[0qo-5}TXSwe [~Je@%;XWpck*+p#5Qc(>:.x}I$&,g9$dKJZA?n"-{$h\{**<0]C"geE3sz["SDW&!j~oBb4g1!Yk& Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 22:32:45 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Tony Langdon's message of "Wed, 12 Dec 2001 08:23:06 +1100") Message-ID: Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1 (i386-debian-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> I was also worried about security of not allowing my=20 >> neighbours to use my=20 >> phone line for the internet! In practice what is the likely=20 >> hood of this. I=20 > Run WEP and make sure you change your network ID from the card default. As Wep isn't secure at all, you might want to use ipsec instead. =2D-=20 Fabien Penso | LinuxFr a toujours besoin de : http://perso.LinuxFR.org/penso/ | http://linuxfr.org/dons/ --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjwWe30ACgkQGM0lpSLzivOLUwCeJSf8E2Xpi/La5CvMXJ1i21EZ 4KYAn3tn7vZhvftpJ2UE7LGx5GIO8QM8 =X/s8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From Robert.Edwards@anu.edu.au Tue Dec 11 14:36:22 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from cs.anu.edu.au (cs.anu.edu.au [150.203.164.35]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B804F14 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:36:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from anu.edu.au (tux [150.203.160.12]) by cs.anu.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06345; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 09:33:46 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <3C168A0B.50CC9720@anu.edu.au> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 09:34:51 +1100 From: Bob Edwards Organization: Australian National University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.9-13smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Gallagher Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Suggestions : Wireless Modem Access Point References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Tom Gallagher wrote: > > Heres my scenario : - > I am going to buy some wireless LAN cards soon for my small flat (Linux and > Win98 desktop PCs + laptop in the future) and I would like to buy a modem > access point. I would like a small box that I can sit by my phone socket and > then access the internet from any PC in the flat. > I have looked at the Buffalo airstation range and also the apple airport. > Can anyone offer an opinion on these two products? Flexibility of > configuration, ability to configure from Linux, ability to masquerade many > network protocols (IRC, ICQ, FTP etc as well as just HTTP), quality of > product, speed obtained in real world situations etc etc. I have read > reviews on zdnet etc but they are often light on technical detail. > Are there any other wireless access modem products? I haven't found any > documentation/reviews that say how these devices are configured in terms of > auto dialling, hang-up timeouts etc etc. > I was also worried about security of not allowing my neighbours to use my > phone line for the internet! In practice what is the likely hood of this. I > read the "long rant" thread on this and it seems for home use security is > not much of an issue. > I have no wireless experience at all. > Thanks for your time > Tom Around here (in Australia), an Apple Airport is about as cheap an AP as you can get, especially the original model, now that the new Airport II is coming out. Other "cost-effective" options are D-Link and Lucent APs. In any case, I would agree with the other respondents to this query. Run your AP in "bridging" mode (ie. not in NAT mode) and use an old Linux box as a router to your dial-up ISP (or your broadband xDSL provider). An old 486 should do, you can run "gibraltar" (runs from a CD and doesn't require a hard-disk - less noisy, failure prone and power hungry), or "smoothwall" (easy to install and configure, but needs a hard disk), or a Linux Router Project (LRP) floppy. There are other options as well. Cheers, Bob Edwards. From jonesmb@arthem.com Tue Dec 11 15:13:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail01g.rapidsite.net (mail01g.rapidsite.net [207.158.192.232]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5427A4124 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:12:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.arthem.com (209.238.115.243) by mail01g.rapidsite.net (RS ver 1.0.60s) with SMTP id 019866852 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 18:11:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011211164443.00a520c0@arthem.com> X-Sender: jonesmb@arthem.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 17:11:16 -0600 To: wireless@lists.samba.org From: JonesMB Subject: Re: Suggestions : Wireless Modem Access Point In-Reply-To: <1008075924.5975.3.camel@thor.asgardsrealm.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Loop-Detect: 1 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: a similar thing happened to me last weekend. My wireless setup is a Win 98 laptop + Orinoco card and a Debian Linux box + Orinoco card + cable modem. It started when I was experimenting with DHCP. I had an error in my DHCP config file on the Linux box so DHCP didn't start. The card still got an IP address from somewhere. After a little digging I discovered that there were a poorly setup access point nearby that I could connect to and "steal" Internet access. until then I thought my neighbors were in the dark ages when it came to wireless networking so I was careless about wireless security. Right now I am using WEP & iptables to control access. If you are comfortable with Linux, I would suggest using that instead of a modem AP. Use a small Linux system to share the Internet access and connect it to the AP with the wireless hosts. It will give you more flexibility and it will make debugging easier when odd things happen. jmb >I'm not much of a wireless buff, I can only speak for my own >experience. I rather recently installed a Wireless Access Point in my >apartment (upper two floors of a coachhouse) for use with our two >laptops. Shortly after this, I started experiencing what I thought were >odd connectivity issues. That is until I checked my IP address. By >remvoing and reinserting my Wireless NIC at various points in the >apartement I found three diferrent Wireless Access Points within range. >All of which allowed seamless Internet access through them. The only >thing that brought it to my attention at the time was my inability to >reach my internal hosts. From Alfred.Reynolds@dsto.defence.gov.au Tue Dec 11 15:24:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79FA6480F for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:24:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id fBBNLrF13219 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 09:51:57 +1030 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 09:52:21 +1030 Received: from salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au (salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.9]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id IAA22940 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 08:29:29 +1030 (CST) Received: from fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au ([144.97.171.1]) by salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id YTNQFGNX; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 08:29:25 +1030 Received: by fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4WMNS9YQ>; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 08:58:22 +1100 Message-ID: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C065C298@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> From: "Reynolds, Alfred" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: Suggestions : Wireless Modem Access Point Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 08:58:21 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: WEP is secure for a given value of secure ;) While it is breakable it ain't trivial. For a typical load on a home network it would require a few hours of sniffing and then a few hours CPU time to crack. WEP would stop war driving and it would stop your neighbors accidentally using your AP. For web surfing its prolly cool. For shell sessions use ssh (but you do that already right?) IPSEC would be the best solution BUT its not trivial to implement. Perhaps it would be easier to lock down which MAC's can access the AP? > -----Original Message----- > From: Fabien Penso [mailto:penso@linuxfr.org] > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 8:33 AM > To: wireless@lists.samba.org > Subject: Re: Suggestions : Wireless Modem Access Point > > > > >> I was also worried about security of not allowing my > >> neighbours to use my > >> phone line for the internet! In practice what is the likely > >> hood of this. I > > > Run WEP and make sure you change your network ID from the > card default. > > As Wep isn't secure at all, you might want to use ipsec instead. > > -- > Fabien Penso | LinuxFr a toujours besoin de : > http://perso.LinuxFR.org/penso/ | http://linuxfr.org/dons/ > > From penso@linuxfr.org Tue Dec 11 15:41:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from zobe.linuxfr.org (zobe.linuxfr.org [213.193.17.3]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D3740C6 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:41:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by zobe.linuxfr.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id 8CE8315847; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 00:41:23 +0100 (CET) Received: by houston.linuxfr.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 641E0159A; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 00:36:06 +0100 (CET) From: Fabien Penso To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Suggestions : Wireless Modem Access Point References: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C065C298@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-PGP-Fingerprint: E394 1C70 C7F9 B740 CD2E FAC2 18CD 25A5 22F3 8AF3 Organization: LinuxFr - http://linuxfr.org X-Face: &(.[0qo-5}TXSwe [~Je@%;XWpck*+p#5Qc(>:.x}I$&,g9$dKJZA?n"-{$h\{**<0]C"geE3sz["SDW&!j~oBb4g1!Yk& Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 00:36:06 +0100 In-Reply-To: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C065C298@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> ("Reynolds, Alfred"'s message of "Wed, 12 Dec 2001 08:58:21 +1100") Message-ID: Lines: 38 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1 (i386-debian-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wed, 12 Dec 2001 08:58:21 +1100, tu as dit :=20 > WEP is secure for a given value of secure ;) As always. > While it is breakable it ain't trivial. For a typical load on a home net= work > it would require a few hours of sniffing and then a few hours CPU time to > crack. Well the people which would like to sniff the network are probably few block away. They _do_ have time to sniff for few hours. As software are available to do that without having to know anything except few C skills, I would think it's quick easy to do. > WEP would stop war driving and it would stop your neighbors > accidentally using your AP.=20 'Accidentally' ? :-) > For web surfing its prolly cool. For shell sessions use ssh (but you > do that already right?) Someone doesn't ? > IPSEC would be the best solution BUT its not trivial to > implement. Perhaps it would be easier to lock down which MAC's can > access the AP? Probably, but people could still sniff the network. For web you don't care anyway, except if you use regular pop, which send clear password. =2D-=20 Fabien Penso | LinuxFr a toujours besoin de : http://perso.LinuxFR.org/penso/ | http://linuxfr.org/dons/ --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjwWmGYACgkQGM0lpSLzivNbnQCdGvbrXfSrJsehye2A//ycaKsG nScAn20uydOCkg4WuzSv74U+bNRuy20L =Cu1E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From alex@topic.com.au Tue Dec 11 18:27:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailhost.topic.com.au (topic-gw2.topic.com.au [203.37.31.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0ACA48D0 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 18:27:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.topic.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 100A0FF051; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:25:53 +1100 (EST) Received: from pinky.tsa (pinky.tsa [10.1.0.205]) by mailhost.topic.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F783FF00E; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:25:48 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:25:18 +1100 Subject: Re: Suggestions : Wireless Modem Access Point Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v475) Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org To: "Tom Gallagher" From: Alex Satrapa In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <7BDE6A0E-EEA7-11D5-9B47-0050E4C03462@topic.com.au> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.475) X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20010714 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tuesday, December 11, 2001, at 10:31 , Tom Gallagher wrote: > Heres my scenario : - > I am going to buy some wireless LAN cards soon for my small flat (Linux > and Win98 desktop PCs + laptop in the future) and I would like to buy a > modem access point. I would like a small box that I can sit by my phone > socket and then access the internet from any PC in the flat. > I have looked at the Buffalo airstation range and also the apple > airport. The Apple Airports (I and II) are designed for one specific market - home users who want to browse the web. The Airport doesn't allow inbound connections. I have a Linux box (called "box") which provides the ADSL connection to my house (sorry - I forgot, it's actually running "Windows 98" as far as Telstra's concerned). This machine allows me to SSH in from anywhere, and to use PPTP from my office. Using IPSec was going to require getting a bleeding edge kernel, adding patches from a million different places, and doing a whole lot more reading at the time than I was happy with. I agree with other posts - if you want an Airport, you'd end up using it as a Rolls Royce managed hub. Just enable WEP to prevent accidental intrusion, restrict MAC addresses to stop the neighbors accidentally getting an address on your network instead of their own, then set the hub up as an untrusted network - even less trusted than the Internet. I would have a setup like this: Wireless Laptop <- radio -> Wireless Hub <- ethernet -> W-Firewall <- ethernet -> Wired Network <- ethernet -> I-Firewall <- dialup/ADSL/cable/pidgeon -> ISP The W-Firewall could provide services such as DHCP and link/network layers such as PPPoE, PPTP, whatever. The idea being that you don't actually route from the wireless network to anywhere. Everywhere else, you deny/reject/slash-and-burn packets that originate from the wireless network. Machines on the wireless network should connect using an encrypted "network" such as PPPoE using MPPE, PPTP using MPPE, or IPSec to the W-Firewall box, which then allows these "secure" connections to send packets to other places. Don't think of the 802.11 card as a "network card" so much as a "wireless modem". You'd at least use CHAP on a dial-up PPP link, why not put the same level of access control on your wireless link? Keep an eye out for neighbours pointing 12cm directional antennae at your house, or people in silver-windowed vans parking outside your house for 12 hours at a time... ... and don't forget the Black Helicopters who are going to steal your secrets anyway, 3072 bit encryption or not. Alex From johan-radiolan@almqvist.net Wed Dec 12 02:30:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from alpha.lunds.lu.se (alpha.lunds.lu.se [194.47.210.130]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 933F94FD1 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 02:30:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 9341 invoked by uid 500); 12 Dec 2001 10:29:06 -0000 Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 11:29:06 +0100 From: Johan Almqvist To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Suggestions : Wireless Modem Access Point Message-ID: <20011212112906.B9306@almqvist.net> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C065C298@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="H+4ONPRPur6+Ovig" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C065C298@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au>; from Alfred.Reynolds@dsto.defence.gov.au on Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 08:58:21AM +1100 Precedence: special-delivery Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --H+4ONPRPur6+Ovig Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * "Reynolds, Alfred" [011211 22:58]: > WEP is secure for a given value of secure ;) > While it is breakable it ain't trivial. For a typical load on a home netw= ork > it would require a few hours of sniffing and then a few hours CPU time to > crack. WEP would stop war driving and it would stop your neighbors > accidentally using your AP. For web surfing its prolly cool. For shell > sessions use ssh (but you do that already right?) IPSEC would be the best > solution BUT its not trivial to implement. Perhaps it would be easier to > lock down which MAC's can access the AP?=20 ifconfig eth0 hw ether 00:03:93:50:71:B0 The MAC address can be set from software... -Johan --=20 Johan Almqvist http://www.almqvist.net/johan/radiolan/ --H+4ONPRPur6+Ovig Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8FzFyEVwMevfaF0sRAlWtAKCUtCmJRZnkkl7u0QXiFUSV7PuBtQCgnOUU 9t656Uf2ZwbNfP4Z9jS+ItQ= =q/AB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --H+4ONPRPur6+Ovig-- From Robert.Edwards@anu.edu.au Wed Dec 12 04:28:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from cs.anu.edu.au (cs.anu.edu.au [150.203.164.35]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78E54FF8 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 04:28:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from anu.edu.au (tux [150.203.160.12]) by cs.anu.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA14117; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 23:26:19 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <3C174D2B.5BC3E63D@anu.edu.au> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 23:27:23 +1100 From: Bob Edwards Organization: Australian National University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.9-13smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Satrapa Cc: Tom Gallagher , wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Suggestions : Wireless Modem Access Point References: <7BDE6A0E-EEA7-11D5-9B47-0050E4C03462@topic.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Alex Satrapa wrote: > > On Tuesday, December 11, 2001, at 10:31 , Tom Gallagher wrote: > > > Heres my scenario : - > > I am going to buy some wireless LAN cards soon for my small flat (Linux > > and Win98 desktop PCs + laptop in the future) and I would like to buy a > > modem access point. I would like a small box that I can sit by my phone > > socket and then access the internet from any PC in the flat. > > I have looked at the Buffalo airstation range and also the apple > > airport. > > The Apple Airports (I and II) are designed for one specific market - > home users who want to browse the web. > > The Airport doesn't allow inbound connections. > Actually, the Airport does allow inbound connections (aka DNAT), if you operate it as a router (which nobody is suggesting that you do). Your proposed architecture is quite good. You forgot to mention CIPE as a candidate authentication/encryption scheme in lieu of IPSec. CIPE only works on Linux (and NT and Win2k) and is included as standard in RH7.1 and RH7.2 (ie. no kernel compiling etc. required). Cheers, Bob Edwards. From pete@v-fib.net Wed Dec 12 12:34:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from telesto.wwwnexus.com (telesto.wwwnexus.com [216.71.84.206]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B314AE5 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 12:34:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.14] (bgm-24-94-41-144.stny.rr.com [24.94.41.144]) by telesto.wwwnexus.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fBCKWgB05589 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:32:42 -0600 Subject: RE: Suggestions : Wireless Modem Access Point From: Pete Brayman Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 12 Dec 2001 15:33:07 -0500 Message-Id: <1008189192.9523.46.camel@lappy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, 2001-12-11 at 16:58, Reynolds, Alfred wrote: > WEP is secure for a given value of secure ;) > While it is breakable it ain't trivial. For a typical load on a home network > it would require a few hours of sniffing and then a few hours CPU time to > crack. WEP would stop war driving and it would stop your neighbors > accidentally using your AP. For web surfing its prolly cool. For shell > sessions use ssh (but you do that already right?) IPSEC would be the best > solution BUT its not trivial to implement. Perhaps it would be easier to > lock down which MAC's can access the AP? Don't forget to use IMAP over SSL.. or POP over SSL.. So your mailbox passwords aren't going out cleartext :) Pete From tmc@goldweb.com.au Wed Dec 12 14:25:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from aramis.goldweb.com.au (aramis.goldweb.com.au [203.37.36.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD1D4A80 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:25:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from barbican.dreamcraft.com.au (raoppp42.goldweb.com.au [203.37.36.232]) by aramis.goldweb.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A102B83A; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:23:53 +1100 (EST) Received: from barbican.dreamcraft.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by barbican.dreamcraft.com.au (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -2) with ESMTP id fBCMNqu7005577; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:23:52 +1100 Received: (from tmc@localhost) by barbican.dreamcraft.com.au (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -2) id fBCMNQaJ005559; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:23:26 +1100 From: Tomasz Ciolek Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:23:26 +1100 To: Pete Brayman Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Suggestions : Wireless Modem Access Pointy Message-ID: <20011212222326.GA5512@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> References: <1008189192.9523.46.camel@lappy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1008189192.9523.46.camel@lappy> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: And setting those up is a breeze with stunnel Done it. works well. Maybe we should so a January CLUG tutorial on SSL certificates, signing and such...? Regards TMC > Don't forget to use IMAP over SSL.. or POP over SSL.. So your mailbox > passwords aren't going out cleartext :) > > Pete > -- Tomasz M. Ciolek * * Everything falls under the law of change; * Like a dream, a phantom, a bubble, a shadow, * like dew of flash of lightning. * You should contemplate like this. ******************************************************************************* GPG Key ID: 0x7A18E49D * Available on www.pgp.net ******************************************************************************* From penso@linuxfr.org Wed Dec 12 17:01:35 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from zobe.linuxfr.org (zobe.linuxfr.org [213.193.17.3]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC3744C6 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 17:01:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by zobe.linuxfr.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id 3975415881; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 02:01:38 +0100 (CET) Received: by houston.linuxfr.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4A925191A; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 01:56:02 +0100 (CET) From: Fabien Penso To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: [OT] Re: Suggestions : Wireless Modem Access Point References: <1008189192.9523.46.camel@lappy> Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-PGP-Fingerprint: E394 1C70 C7F9 B740 CD2E FAC2 18CD 25A5 22F3 8AF3 Organization: LinuxFr - http://linuxfr.org X-Face: &(.[0qo-5}TXSwe [~Je@%;XWpck*+p#5Qc(>:.x}I$&,g9$dKJZA?n"-{$h\{**<0]C"geE3sz["SDW&!j~oBb4g1!Yk& Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 01:56:02 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1008189192.9523.46.camel@lappy> (Pete Brayman's message of "12 Dec 2001 15:33:07 -0500") Message-ID: Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1 (i386-debian-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> WEP is secure for a given value of secure ;) >> While it is breakable it ain't trivial. For a typical load on a home ne= twork >> it would require a few hours of sniffing and then a few hours CPU time = to >> crack. WEP would stop war driving and it would stop your neighbors >> accidentally using your AP. For web surfing its prolly cool. For shell >> sessions use ssh (but you do that already right?) IPSEC would be the be= st >> solution BUT its not trivial to implement. Perhaps it would be easier to >> lock down which MAC's can access the AP?=20 > Don't forget to use IMAP over SSL.. or POP over SSL.. So your mailbox > passwords aren't going out cleartext :)=20=20 I personnaly prefer to use uucp+ssh as explained on http://perso.linuxfr.org/penso/article/uucp+ssh.html (use babelfish). Compressed, fast, reliable. I love it. =2D-=20 Fabien Penso | LinuxFr a toujours besoin de : http://perso.LinuxFR.org/penso/ | http://linuxfr.org/dons/ --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEUEARECAAYFAjwX/KIACgkQGM0lpSLzivMVzgCYze0okp5ZYPnJskPjb81MdELN 9gCeKKO7m2WPObOgOhxo8rAAOwEOSuU= =B03H -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From moc_leader@iprimus.com.au Wed Dec 12 17:09:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from smtp01.iprimus.net.au (smtp01.iprimus.net.au [203.134.64.99]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 706694889 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 17:09:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from aptiva ([210.50.56.197]) by smtp01.iprimus.net.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4617); Thu, 13 Dec 2001 12:08:28 +1100 Message-ID: <000601c18372$b6965360$0100a8c0@home> From: "Adam Smith" To: References: <1008189192.9523.46.camel@lappy> Subject: New Brisbane Wanna Be Wireless User Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 11:08:43 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2001 01:08:28.0670 (UTC) FILETIME=[AC8089E0:01C18372] Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hey all can you guys give me some good referance material at all thanks in advance Adam Smith {MoC}Angel_Fire iPrimus and MoC forever http://www.clanmoc2001.cjb.net From Alfred.Reynolds@dsto.defence.gov.au Wed Dec 12 17:51:12 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5864C4B7B for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 17:51:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id fBD1n0F11089 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 12:19:00 +1030 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 12:00:46 +1030 Received: from salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au (salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.9]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id LAA11599 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 11:46:02 +1030 (CST) Received: from fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au ([144.97.171.1]) by salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id YTNQF7DM; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 11:40:13 +1030 Received: by fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4WMNS0TG>; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 12:10:14 +1100 Message-ID: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C065C2A0@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> From: "Reynolds, Alfred" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: Suggestions : Wireless Modem Access Pointy Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 12:10:13 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: The only problem I had with imaps and pops (X over SSL) was what info was needed in the certificates to make the email clients happy (outlook is a picky bastard in other words). > -----Original Message----- > From: Tomasz Ciolek [mailto:tmc@goldweb.com.au] > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 9:23 AM > To: Pete Brayman > Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org > Subject: Re: Suggestions : Wireless Modem Access Pointy > > > And setting those up is a breeze with stunnel > > Done it. works well. > > Maybe we should so a January CLUG tutorial on SSL > certificates, signing > and such...? > > Regards > TMC > > > Don't forget to use IMAP over SSL.. or POP over SSL.. So > your mailbox > > passwords aren't going out cleartext :) > > > > Pete > > > > -- > Tomasz M. Ciolek * > * Everything falls under the law > of change; > * Like a dream, a > phantom, a bubble, a shadow, > * like dew of flash of lightning. > * You should contemplate like this. > ************************************************************** > ***************** > GPG Key ID: 0x7A18E49D * Available on www.pgp.net > ************************************************************** > ***************** > From osi@fotap.org Thu Dec 13 05:26:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from meatloaf.fotap.org (dsl-64-34-207-61.telocity.com [64.34.207.61]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA6150D0 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 05:26:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from osi by meatloaf.fotap.org with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16EVrP-00018D-00 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 08:25:15 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 08:25:15 -0500 From: kiss the sun and walk on air To: wirless Subject: wvlan_cs/orinoco_cs & linksys wap11 AP Message-ID: <20011213082515.D28135@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pZs/OQEoSSbxGlYw" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --pZs/OQEoSSbxGlYw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am writing in reference to the potential problems in the message at http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/2001-May/002499.html relating to the linksys wap11 AP. I have an Intersil PRISM2 card built into my laptop (toshiba tecra 8200), and it works fine with either the wvlan_cs or the orinoco_cs drivers. I am currently using pcmcia-cs v3.1.29, which has orinoco_cs v0.06a / orinoco 0.08a. I also observed the same problems using the kernel = 2.4.16 PCMCIA support which has orinoco_cs v0.08a. I move between two Linksys WAP11 APs, one at home and one at work. Whenever I reach the other location I must always cycle the power on the AP otherwise I get the 44:44:44:44:44:44 for the Access Point under iwconfig. This is after a cold boot, I always shut down my machine when moving between the office and home. Here is iwconfig eth0 when I'm at home: eth0 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"girl" Nickname:"leela" Mode:Managed Frequency:2.432GHz Access Point: 00:04:5A:CD:D2:9C Bit Rate=3D11Mb/s Tx-Power=3D15 dBm Sensitivity:1/3 Retry limit:4 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Power Management:off Link Quality:39/92 Signal level:-54 dBm Noise level:-93 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 And the syslog information from when I booted here last night: Dec 12 18:07:34 leela cardmgr[202]: socket 0: Intersil PRISM2 11 Mbps Wireless Adapter Dec 12 18:07:34 leela kernel: cs: memory probe 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff: clean. Dec 12 18:07:34 leela cardmgr[202]: executing: 'modprobe hermes' Dec 12 18:07:34 leela kernel: hermes.c: 3 Oct 2001 David Gibson Dec 12 18:07:34 leela cardmgr[202]: executing: 'modprobe orinoco' Dec 12 18:07:34 leela kernel: orinoco.c 0.08a (David Gibson and others) Dec 12 18:07:34 leela cardmgr[202]: executing: 'modprobe orinoco_cs' Dec 12 18:07:34 leela cardmgr[202]: + Warning: loading /lib/modules/2.4.16/pcmcia/orinoco_cs.o will taint the kernel: no license Dec 12 18:07:34 leela kernel: dldwd: David's Less Dodgy WaveLAN/IEEE Driver Dec 12 18:07:34 leela kernel: orinoco_cs.c 0.06f (David Gibson and others) Dec 12 18:07:34 leela kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x378-0x37f 0x3c0-0x3df 0x4d0-0x4d7 Dec 12 18:07:34 leela kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0380-0x03bf: clean. Dec 12 18:07:34 leela kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x03e0-0x04cf: clean. Dec 12 18:07:34 leela kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x04d8-0x04ff: clean. Dec 12 18:07:34 leela kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0800-0x08ff: clean. Dec 12 18:07:34 leela kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean. Dec 12 18:07:34 leela kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean. Dec 12 18:07:34 leela kernel: eth0: Station identity 001f:0001:0006:000e Dec 12 18:07:34 leela kernel: eth0: Looks like a Lucent/Agere firmware version 6.14 Dec 12 18:07:34 leela kernel: eth0: Ad-hoc demo mode supported. Dec 12 18:07:34 leela kernel: eth0: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported. Dec 12 18:07:34 leela kernel: eth0: WEP supported, "128"-bit key. Dec 12 18:07:34 leela kernel: eth0: MAC address 00:02:2D:33:96:8E Dec 12 18:07:34 leela kernel: eth0: Station name "HERMES I" Dec 12 18:07:34 leela kernel: eth0: ready Dec 12 18:07:34 leela kernel: eth0: index 0x01: Vcc 3.3, irq 11, io 0x0100-0x013f Dec 12 18:07:34 leela cardmgr[202]: executing: './network start eth0' Dec 12 18:07:34 leela kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 02:07.0 Dec 12 18:07:34 leela kernel: PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:1f.2 Dec 12 18:07:34 leela kernel: PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 02:0d.1 Dec 12 18:07:34 leela pumpd[279]: starting at (uptime 0 days, 0:00:13) Wed Dec 12 18:07:34 2001 Dec 12 18:07:34 leela pumpd[279]: PUMP: sending discover pumpd goes on to fail until I reset the AP and I lock on to it and then can get an IP. Here is the syslog output from when I booted at work yesterday morning: Dec 12 09:31:57 leela cardmgr[191]: executing: 'modprobe orinoco' Dec 12 09:31:57 leela kernel: orinoco.c 0.08a (David Gibson and others) Dec 12 09:31:57 leela cardmgr[191]: executing: 'modprobe orinoco_cs' Dec 12 09:31:57 leela cardmgr[191]: + Warning: loading /lib/modules/2.4.16/pcmcia/orinoco_cs.o will taint the kernel: no license Dec 12 09:31:57 leela kernel: dldwd: David's Less Dodgy WaveLAN/IEEE Driver Dec 12 09:31:57 leela kernel: orinoco_cs.c 0.06f (David Gibson and others) Dec 12 09:31:57 leela kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x378-0x37f 0x3c0-0x3df 0x4d0-0x4d7 Dec 12 09:31:57 leela kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0380-0x03bf: clean. Dec 12 09:31:57 leela kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x03e0-0x04cf: clean. Dec 12 09:31:57 leela kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x04d8-0x04ff: clean. Dec 12 09:31:57 leela kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0800-0x08ff: clean. Dec 12 09:31:57 leela kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean. Dec 12 09:31:57 leela kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean. Dec 12 09:31:57 leela kernel: eth0: Station identity 001f:0001:0006:000e Dec 12 09:31:57 leela kernel: eth0: Looks like a Lucent/Agere firmware version 6.14 Dec 12 09:31:57 leela kernel: eth0: Ad-hoc demo mode supported. Dec 12 09:31:57 leela kernel: eth0: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported. Dec 12 09:31:57 leela kernel: eth0: WEP supported, "128"-bit key. Dec 12 09:31:57 leela kernel: eth0: MAC address 00:02:2D:33:96:8E Dec 12 09:31:57 leela kernel: eth0: Station name "HERMES I" Dec 12 09:31:57 leela kernel: eth0: ready Dec 12 09:31:57 leela cardmgr[191]: executing: './network start eth0' Dec 12 09:31:57 leela kernel: eth0: index 0x01: Vcc 3.3, irq 11, io 0x0100-0x013f Dec 12 09:31:57 leela kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 02:07.0 Dec 12 09:31:57 leela kernel: PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 00:1f.2 Dec 12 09:31:57 leela kernel: PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 02:0d.1 Dec 12 09:31:57 leela pumpd[268]: starting at (uptime 0 days, 0:00:13) Wed Dec 12 09:31:57 2001 Dec 12 09:31:57 leela pumpd[268]: PUMP: sending discover Any assitance would be appreciated. I think it is something similar to what Jean mentioned in the archive message I link to above, a problem with the AP. Oh, and each AP has a different ESSID and a different freqency set. Thanks! -pete --=20 (peter.royal|osi)@pobox.com - http://pobox.com/~osi jabber/ osi@fotap.org - icq/ 153025 - aim/ osifx - yahoo/ osi_fx your brain on life - http://fotap.org - incubating --pZs/OQEoSSbxGlYw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8GKw7hxNyr2g6PGURAk0lAKCQP96gwtv0xifVYF0s9oFpcJwYCgCgjqh3 oaWXRLKwPyycvwYt6pZ0QZU= =aFS8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pZs/OQEoSSbxGlYw-- From roger.larsson@norran.net Thu Dec 13 13:46:58 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailc.telia.com (mailc.telia.com [194.22.190.4]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72984176 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 13:46:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (h164n1fls31o925.telia.com [213.65.254.164]) by mailc.telia.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fBDLjPa24415; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 22:45:25 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200112132145.fBDLjPa24415@mailc.telia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Roger Larsson To: kiss the sun and walk on air , wirless Subject: Re: wvlan_cs/orinoco_cs & linksys wap11 AP Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 22:43:08 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <20011213082515.D28135@pobox.com> In-Reply-To: <20011213082515.D28135@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thursdayen den 13 December 2001 14.25, kiss the sun and walk on air wrote: > I am writing in reference to the potential problems in the message at > http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/2001-May/002499.html > relating to the linksys wap11 AP. > > I have an Intersil PRISM2 card built into my laptop (toshiba tecra > 8200), and it works fine with either the wvlan_cs or the orinoco_cs > drivers. I am currently using pcmcia-cs v3.1.29, which has orinoco_cs > v0.06a / orinoco 0.08a. I also observed the same problems using the kernel > 2.4.16 PCMCIA support which has orinoco_cs v0.08a. > > I move between two Linksys WAP11 APs, one at home and one at > work. Whenever I reach the other location I must always cycle the > power on the AP otherwise I get the 44:44:44:44:44:44 for the Access > Point under iwconfig. This is after a cold boot, I always shut down my > machine when moving between the office and home. > > Here is iwconfig eth0 when I'm at home: > eth0 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"girl" Nickname:"leela" > Mode:Managed Frequency:2.432GHz Access Point: > 00:04:5A:CD:D2:9C > Bit Rate=11Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity:1/3 > Retry limit:4 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off > Power Management:off > Link Quality:39/92 Signal level:-54 dBm Noise level:-93 > dBm > Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 > Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 > Isn't this a situation where you should use # cardctl scheme home # cardctl scheme work To be able to specify different ESSID, etc... (The scheme name gets passed into wireless.opts) /RogerL -- Roger Larsson Skellefteå Sweden From osi@fotap.org Thu Dec 13 13:58:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from meatloaf.fotap.org (dsl-64-34-207-61.telocity.com [64.34.207.61]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E20447A for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 13:58:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from osi by meatloaf.fotap.org with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16Edqz-00039g-00 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 16:57:21 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 16:57:21 -0500 From: kiss the sun and walk on air To: wirless Subject: Re: wvlan_cs/orinoco_cs & linksys wap11 AP Message-ID: <20011213165721.D4594@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="s/l3CgOIzMHHjg/5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200112132145.fBDLjPa24415@mailc.telia.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --s/l3CgOIzMHHjg/5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 10:43:08PM +0100, Roger Larsson wrote: > On Thursdayen den 13 December 2001 14.25, kiss the sun and walk on air wr= ote: > > I am writing in reference to the potential problems in the message at > > http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/2001-May/002499.html > > relating to the linksys wap11 AP. > > > > I have an Intersil PRISM2 card built into my laptop (toshiba tecra > > 8200), and it works fine with either the wvlan_cs or the orinoco_cs > > drivers. I am currently using pcmcia-cs v3.1.29, which has orinoco_cs > > v0.06a / orinoco 0.08a. I also observed the same problems using the ker= nel > > 2.4.16 PCMCIA support which has orinoco_cs v0.08a. > > > > I move between two Linksys WAP11 APs, one at home and one at > > work. Whenever I reach the other location I must always cycle the > > power on the AP otherwise I get the 44:44:44:44:44:44 for the Access > > Point under iwconfig. This is after a cold boot, I always shut down my > > machine when moving between the office and home. > Isn't this a situation where you should use > # cardctl scheme home > # cardctl scheme work > To be able to specify different ESSID, etc... > (The scheme name gets passed into wireless.opts) Yes, that is what I do to change the ESSID, which works. I am unable to set the frequency/channel with that, however. I get: leela:/home/osi# iwconfig eth0 channel 8 SIOCSIWFREQ: Operation not supported My procedure is currently, move to alternate location, power up, cycle AP power, change scheme with cardctl. and it works. The cycle AP power step is the one that needs to go :) -pete --=20 (peter.royal|osi)@pobox.com - http://pobox.com/~osi jabber/ osi@fotap.org - icq/ 153025 - aim/ osifx - yahoo/ osi_fx your brain on life - http://fotap.org - incubating --s/l3CgOIzMHHjg/5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8GSRBhxNyr2g6PGURAkmKAKDrScm8ny019doAcF+FjOLZJzqMGgCfRTgT cO477aDHzJtxCXdQ9rvupRQ= =bbAq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --s/l3CgOIzMHHjg/5-- From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Thu Dec 13 14:35:28 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C700442F6 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:35:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id OAA17324 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:33:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id OAA29464 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:33:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16EeQQ-00006k-00 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:33:58 -0800 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:33:58 -0800 To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re : wvlan_cs/orinoco_cs & linksys wap11 AP Message-ID: <20011213143358.A409@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: kiss the sun and walk on air wrote : > I am writing in reference to the potential problems in the message at > http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/2001-May/002499.html > relating to the linksys wap11 AP. > > I have an Intersil PRISM2 card built into my laptop (toshiba tecra > 8200), and it works fine with either the wvlan_cs or the orinoco_cs > drivers. I am currently using pcmcia-cs v3.1.29, which has orinoco_cs > v0.06a / orinoco 0.08a. I also observed the same problems using the kernel = > 2.4.16 > PCMCIA support which has orinoco_cs v0.08a. Have you tried the various trick I advised you in the Pcmcia forums ? http://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=1438088 Please report on those tricks, otherwise we are not going to make any progress... Jean From t__e__g@hotmail.com Thu Dec 13 14:42:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from hotmail.com (unknown [207.68.163.36]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC27B4851 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:42:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:41:32 -0800 Received: from 212.159.132.159 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 22:41:31 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.159.132.159] From: "Tom Gallagher" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Wireless Access Points Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 22:41:31 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2001 22:41:32.0085 (UTC) FILETIME=[4FD22E50:01C18427] Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Thanks everyone for your suggestions. The general consensus is to use a linux box for maximum flexibility and security. I was probably a bit too general in my original post ... I would love to do that in the ideal world but being quite limited for space, these AP boxes from buffalo, apple etc were desirable for the fact I could put them on a shelf in my hall where the phone point is and have them run nice and quiet (not like a clunky old 486!!). I guess what I really want is a PC104 style board running some embedded linux with a wireless card in it and make my own access point but I guess I am now moving off topic and into a more expensive world also.... Thanks for the input, Tom _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From kleptog@svana.org Thu Dec 13 14:56:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F044B33 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:56:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16EekZ-0004tF-00; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 09:54:47 +1100 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 09:54:47 +1100 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: kiss the sun and walk on air Cc: wirless Subject: Re: wvlan_cs/orinoco_cs & linksys wap11 AP Message-ID: <20011214095447.A18690@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout References: <200112132145.fBDLjPa24415@mailc.telia.com> <20011213165721.D4594@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011213165721.D4594@pobox.com>; from peter.royal@pobox.com on Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 04:57:21PM -0500 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 04:57:21PM -0500, kiss the sun and walk on air wrote: > Yes, that is what I do to change the ESSID, which works. I am unable > to set the frequency/channel with that, however. I get: > > leela:/home/osi# iwconfig eth0 channel 8 > SIOCSIWFREQ: Operation not supported Managed mode does not allow you to edit the frequency. The frequency is assigned (decided?) by the AP automatically. > My procedure is currently, move to alternate location, power up, cycle > AP power, change scheme with cardctl. and it works. The cycle AP power > step is the one that needs to go :) Does cycling the pcmcia card work? As in pulling it out and putting it in again, resetting all the drivers? Do you actually shutdown or is it a laptop in sleep mode? -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Terrorists can only take my life. Only my government can take my freedom. From jcollins@asgardsrealm.net Thu Dec 13 15:02:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from asgardsrealm.net (24-148-71-77.na.21stcentury.net [24.148.71.77]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 857D54426 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 15:02:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 4874 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2001 23:02:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.43?) (209.242.10.6) by 0 with SMTP; 13 Dec 2001 23:02:07 -0000 Subject: Re: Wireless Access Points From: "Jamin W. Collins" To: wireless@lists.samba.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 13 Dec 2001 16:59:30 -0600 Message-Id: <1008284370.8924.6.camel@Cerberus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, 2001-12-13 at 16:41, Tom Gallagher wrote: > Thanks everyone for your suggestions. The general consensus is to use a > linux box for maximum flexibility and security. I was probably a bit too > general in my original post ... I would love to do that in the ideal world > but being quite limited for space, these AP boxes from buffalo, apple etc > were desirable for the fact I could put them on a shelf in my hall where the > phone point is and have them run nice and quiet (not like a clunky old > 486!!). I guess what I really want is a PC104 style board running some > embedded linux with a wireless card in it and make my own access point but I > guess I am now moving off topic and into a more expensive world also.... Not sure exactly how constrained the space is, but there are a few options. One, http://www.dollar.computer has a few listings for very low priced laptops (like $299 for a Thinkpad 560E) that with two pcmcia NICs will give you a firewall/gateway and not take up a lot of space. The other is a little gem of a PC (http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/epsmalpc.html) that doesn't take up much space and may work for you. Jamin W. Collins From jonesmb@arthem.com Thu Dec 13 15:10:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail01g.rapidsite.net (mail01g.rapidsite.net [207.158.192.232]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EFAA84CE1 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 15:10:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.arthem.com (209.238.115.243) by mail01g.rapidsite.net (RS ver 1.0.60s) with SMTP id 021038021 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 18:09:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011213164905.00b29230@arthem.com> X-Sender: jonesmb@arthem.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 17:08:46 -0600 To: wireless@lists.samba.org From: JonesMB Subject: Re: Wireless Access Points In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Loop-Detect: 1 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: don't any companies make small footprint PCs that use industry standard peripherals. that might be a solution. to conserve space I guess you could also use a laptop. one card in the laptop could go to the phone line and the other would be a cross-over ethernet cable to the AP or something similar. I wonder if there is a market for PCs that have the same approx. dimensions as a VCR or DVD player and fit in a home entertainment center or TV stand. if such a PC existed, you could have one of those in your hall and the AP nearby. jmb At 10:41 PM 12/13/01 +0000, you wrote: >Thanks everyone for your suggestions. The general consensus is to use a >linux box for maximum flexibility and security. I was probably a bit too >general in my original post ... I would love to do that in the ideal world >but being quite limited for space, these AP boxes from buffalo, apple etc >were desirable for the fact I could put them on a shelf in my hall where >the phone point is and have them run nice and quiet (not like a clunky old >486!!). I guess what I really want is a PC104 style board running some >embedded linux with a wireless card in it and make my own access point but >I guess I am now moving off topic and into a more expensive world also.... >Thanks for the input, >Tom From osi@fotap.org Thu Dec 13 15:25:01 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from meatloaf.fotap.org (dsl-64-34-207-61.telocity.com [64.34.207.61]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 617C451C5 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 15:25:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from osi by meatloaf.fotap.org with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16EfCT-0003TA-00 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 18:23:37 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 18:23:37 -0500 From: kiss the sun and walk on air To: wirless Subject: Re: wvlan_cs/orinoco_cs & linksys wap11 AP Message-ID: <20011213182337.A13268@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011214095447.A18690@svana.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 09:54:47AM +1100, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > > Yes, that is what I do to change the ESSID, which works. I am unable > > to set the frequency/channel with that, however. I get: > >=20 > > leela:/home/osi# iwconfig eth0 channel 8 > > SIOCSIWFREQ: Operation not supported >=20 > Managed mode does not allow you to edit the frequency. The frequency is > assigned (decided?) by the AP automatically. ok, makes sense. > > My procedure is currently, move to alternate location, power up, cycle > > AP power, change scheme with cardctl. and it works. The cycle AP power > > step is the one that needs to go :) >=20 > Does cycling the pcmcia card work? As in pulling it out and putting it in > again, resetting all the drivers? Do you actually shutdown or is it a lap= top > in sleep mode? The wireless card is built into my laptop, i can't physically remove it (well, without unscrewing the botton with some special screwdriver). There is a switch on the front that toggles some light that shuts off the antenna power. Doing a cardctl eject/insert does not help. I actually shut down. Sleep doesn't work and suspend has other issues at the moment :) -pete --=20 (peter.royal|osi)@pobox.com - http://pobox.com/~osi jabber/ osi@fotap.org - icq/ 153025 - aim/ osifx - yahoo/ osi_fx your brain on life - http://fotap.org - incubating --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8GTh4hxNyr2g6PGURAivPAJ0Xs8Lt6s6UotOUexRwfUIv3rnIIgCfQctb CT1LLDkP9LZ/1L79QSHmxBQ= =hs+L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy-- From Robert.Edwards@anu.edu.au Thu Dec 13 15:36:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from cs.anu.edu.au (cs.anu.edu.au [150.203.164.35]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06867416C for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 15:36:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from anu.edu.au (tux [150.203.160.12]) by cs.anu.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03611; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:33:30 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <3C193B0B.2BD19983@anu.edu.au> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:34:35 +1100 From: Bob Edwards Organization: Australian National University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.9-13smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Gallagher Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Wireless Access Points References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Tom Gallagher wrote: > > Thanks everyone for your suggestions. The general consensus is to use a > linux box for maximum flexibility and security. I was probably a bit too > general in my original post ... I would love to do that in the ideal world > but being quite limited for space, these AP boxes from buffalo, apple etc > were desirable for the fact I could put them on a shelf in my hall where the > phone point is and have them run nice and quiet (not like a clunky old > 486!!). I guess what I really want is a PC104 style board running some > embedded linux with a wireless card in it and make my own access point but I > guess I am now moving off topic and into a more expensive world also.... > Thanks for the input, > Tom > Another option is to get an Apple Airport and install FreeBSD on it. I don't have the URL handy, but this works. Then you can configure for whatever firewall/security you want ala linux. You should be able to keep use of the modem etc. Cheers, Bob Edwards. From tlangdon@atctraining.com.au Thu Dec 13 15:38:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au (gw2.atctraining.com.au [210.8.174.5]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE306416C for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 15:38:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:40:08 +1100 Message-ID: From: Tony Langdon To: 'Bob Edwards' , Tom Gallagher Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: Wireless Access Points Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:39:59 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Another option is to get an Apple Airport and install FreeBSD on it. > I don't have the URL handy, but this works. Then you can configure for > whatever firewall/security you want ala linux. You should be able to > keep use of the modem etc. So FreeBSD does run on the airport hardware? --- Outgoing mail has been scanned for viruses Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.303 / Virus Database: 164 - Release Date: 24-Nov-01 From sam@topic.com.au Thu Dec 13 15:51:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailhost.topic.com.au (topic-gw2.topic.com.au [203.37.31.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212E44D4D for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 15:46:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.topic.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55622FF05F for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:44:47 +1100 (EST) Received: from krusty.tsa (krusty.tsa [10.1.0.80]) by mailhost.topic.com.au (Postfix) with SMTP id 58A3CFF054 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:44:36 +1100 (EST) Received: by krusty.tsa (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:44:36 +1100 From: Sam Couter Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:44:36 +1100 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Wireless Access Points Message-ID: <20011213234435.GA20666@mailhost.topic.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <5.1.0.14.2.20011213164905.00b29230@arthem.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="azLHFNyN32YCQGCU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20011213164905.00b29230@arthem.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.9-ac14 on a i686 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20010714 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable JonesMB wrote: > don't any companies make small footprint PCs that use industry standard= =20 > peripherals. that might be a solution. You can get matchbox sized 66MHz 486 machines with built-in 10BaseT ethernet and high speed serial ports for the measly sum of nearly 1000 USD. That would be plenty powerful enough to shunt packets back and forth between a modem and your network. Unfortunately, there's no PCMCIA or ISA slots, so you'd need to use an airport with it to acheive wireless networking. However, it'd be useful as your firewall between the internet, wireless and your wired network. http://www.tiqit.com/mpc.html There's a different machine (with PCMCIA) mentioned here: http://www.strategic-test.se/ But I can't seem to find links to actual information. --=20 Sam Couter | Internet Engineer | http://www.topic.com.au/ sam@topic.com.au | tSA Consulting | OpenPGP key ID: DE89C75C, available on key servers OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8GT1jhTADrt6Jx1wRAoMyAKDL7ER0tAFPYojcG3KUdImNjjBCeACffXvH TerCcXau9q9v4oJ7cEznD00= =O6gq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU-- From osi@fotap.org Thu Dec 13 15:51:25 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from meatloaf.fotap.org (dsl-64-34-207-61.telocity.com [64.34.207.61]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A43F51C9 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 15:47:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from osi by meatloaf.fotap.org with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16EfXr-0003Y8-00 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 18:45:43 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 18:45:43 -0500 From: kiss the sun and walk on air To: wirless Subject: Re: Re : wvlan_cs/orinoco_cs & linksys wap11 AP Message-ID: <20011213184543.B13268@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="WhfpMioaduB5tiZL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011213143358.A409@bougret.hpl.hp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --WhfpMioaduB5tiZL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 02:33:58PM -0800, Jean Tourrilhes wrote: > kiss the sun and walk on air wrote : > > I am writing in reference to the potential problems in the message at > > http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/2001-May/002499.html > > relating to the linksys wap11 AP. > >=20 > > I have an Intersil PRISM2 card built into my laptop (toshiba tecra > > 8200), and it works fine with either the wvlan_cs or the orinoco_cs > > drivers. I am currently using pcmcia-cs v3.1.29, which has orinoco_cs > > v0.06a / orinoco 0.08a. I also observed the same problems using the ker= nel =3D > > 2.4.16 > > PCMCIA support which has orinoco_cs v0.08a. >=20 > Have you tried the various trick I advised you in the Pcmcia > forums ? > http://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=3D1438088 >=20 > Please report on those tricks, otherwise we are not going to > make any progress... I didn't know you had replied there :) I wish sourceforge would email you when you get replies to messages. The only one I have not tried is the iwpriv ethX card_reset, I will try in the morning and report back. -pete --=20 (peter.royal|osi)@pobox.com - http://pobox.com/~osi jabber/ osi@fotap.org - icq/ 153025 - aim/ osifx - yahoo/ osi_fx your brain on life - http://fotap.org - incubating --WhfpMioaduB5tiZL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8GT2nhxNyr2g6PGURAslpAJ9S4WxeNbom11b62mwAIZ6npd8Y9QCfXwmm pa/ZU+YTFIU0KNUyXXA0TMk= =n3gk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --WhfpMioaduB5tiZL-- From Alfred.Reynolds@dsto.defence.gov.au Thu Dec 13 16:37:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17904125 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 16:37:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id fBE0YtF26120 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 11:04:55 +1030 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 11:05:35 +1030 Received: from salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au (salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.9]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id KAA07799 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:59:27 +1030 (CST) Received: from fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au ([144.97.171.1]) by salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id YTNQGQAD; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:59:23 +1030 Received: by fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4WMNTACD>; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 11:29:22 +1100 Message-ID: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C065C2AE@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> From: "Reynolds, Alfred" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: Wireless Access Points Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 11:29:20 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: 1000 bucks US, man thats expensive :) http://www.lineo.com/ Get the uCDimm, $300US, has ethernet, serial, IO lines (no PCMCIA tho...). I used it for a telephony project I did (if your at linux.conf.au 2002 you will find out more ;) Still, I reckon the best option is a 50 buck 486 and a telephone extension cord :) > -----Original Message----- > From: Sam Couter [mailto:sam@topic.com.au] > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:45 AM > To: wireless@lists.samba.org > Subject: Re: Wireless Access Points > > > JonesMB wrote: > > don't any companies make small footprint PCs that use > industry standard > > peripherals. that might be a solution. > > You can get matchbox sized 66MHz 486 machines with built-in 10BaseT > ethernet and high speed serial ports for the measly sum of nearly 1000 > USD. That would be plenty powerful enough to shunt packets back and > forth between a modem and your network. > > Unfortunately, there's no PCMCIA or ISA slots, so you'd need to use an > airport with it to acheive wireless networking. However, it'd > be useful > as your firewall between the internet, wireless and your > wired network. > > http://www.tiqit.com/mpc.html > > > There's a different machine (with PCMCIA) mentioned here: > http://www.strategic-test.se/ > > But I can't seem to find links to actual information. > -- > Sam Couter | Internet Engineer | http://www.topic.com.au/ sam@topic.com.au | tSA Consulting | OpenPGP key ID: DE89C75C, available on key servers OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C From sam@topic.com.au Thu Dec 13 16:42:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailhost.topic.com.au (topic-gw2.topic.com.au [203.37.31.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E79B4486 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 16:42:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhost.topic.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE77FF058 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 11:41:19 +1100 (EST) Received: from krusty.tsa (krusty.tsa [10.1.0.80]) by mailhost.topic.com.au (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B38AFF051 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 11:41:16 +1100 (EST) Received: by krusty.tsa (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 14 Dec 2001 11:41:16 +1100 From: Sam Couter Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 11:41:16 +1100 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Wireless Access Points Message-ID: <20011214004116.GF20666@mailhost.topic.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C065C2AE@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="aZoGpuMECXJckB41" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C065C2AE@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.9-ac14 on a i686 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20010714 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --aZoGpuMECXJckB41 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Reynolds, Alfred wrote: > 1000 bucks US, man thats expensive :) Indeed. > Still, I reckon the best option is a 50 buck 486 and a telephone extension > cord :) I have something like this, but the 486s cost me nothing. Friends were throwing them out, and I told them never to do that again, and instead to give me all their old hardware. I collect a lot of old stuff this way. :) --=20 Sam Couter | Internet Engineer | http://www.topic.com.au/ sam@topic.com.au | tSA Consulting | OpenPGP key ID: DE89C75C, available on key servers OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C --aZoGpuMECXJckB41 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8GUqshTADrt6Jx1wRAiKnAKCTcOXAwcLSolFxGL2fkDM4OgB2HwCfbdHp Lea9xYo9tdswp935cxCdn4w= =gZCK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --aZoGpuMECXJckB41-- From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Thu Dec 13 13:55:08 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A0E4454B for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 13:55:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id NAA14532; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 13:53:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id NAA21139; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 13:53:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16EdnS-000063-00; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 13:53:42 -0800 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 13:53:42 -0800 To: David Gibson , Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Minor improvement of orinoco driver Message-ID: <20011213135342.A363@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="17pEHd4RhPHOinZp" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi David, I've made some minor improvement to the Wireless Extension support of the Orinoco driver (some stuff we were talking about a month ago). Would you mind having a quick look at the patch attached and send me your comments ? Have fun... Jean --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ori.8d.we13.diff" diff -u -p -r linux/drivers/net/wireless-w12/orinoco.c linux/drivers/net/wireless/orinoco.c --- linux/drivers/net/wireless-w12/orinoco.c Tue Dec 11 15:36:06 2001 +++ linux/drivers/net/wireless/orinoco.c Thu Dec 13 13:36:48 2001 @@ -263,8 +263,11 @@ #include #include #include -#include #include +#include +#if WIRELESS_EXT > 12 +#include +#endif /* WIRELESS_EXT > 12 */ #include #include @@ -279,10 +282,21 @@ #include "orinoco.h" #include "ieee802_11.h" -/* Wireless extensions backwares compatibility */ +#if WIRELESS_EXT <= 12 +/* Wireless extensions backward compatibility */ + +/* Part of iw_handler prototype we need */ +struct iw_request_info +{ + __u16 cmd; /* Wireless Extension command */ + __u16 flags; /* More to come ;-) */ +}; + +/* Private ioctl is migrating to a new range... */ #ifndef SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV #define SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV SIOCDEVPRIVATE #endif /* SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV */ +#endif /* WIRELESS_EXT <= 12 */ static char version[] __initdata = "orinoco.c 0.08b (David Gibson and others)"; MODULE_AUTHOR("David Gibson "); @@ -439,6 +453,8 @@ static void __orinoco_ev_txexc(struct or static void __orinoco_ev_tx(struct orinoco_private *priv, hermes_t *hw); static void __orinoco_ev_alloc(struct orinoco_private *priv, hermes_t *hw); +#if 0 +/* Either we fix those prototypes or we get rid of them - Jean II */ static int orinoco_ioctl_getiwrange(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_point *rrq); static int orinoco_ioctl_setiwencode(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_point *erq); static int orinoco_ioctl_getiwencode(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_point *erq); @@ -458,6 +474,7 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_setpower(struct static int orinoco_ioctl_getpower(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_param *prq); static int orinoco_ioctl_setport3(struct net_device *dev, struct iwreq *wrq); static int orinoco_ioctl_getport3(struct net_device *dev, struct iwreq *wrq); +#endif static void __orinoco_set_multicast_list(struct net_device *dev); /* /proc debugging stuff */ @@ -909,7 +926,9 @@ static int __orinoco_hw_setup_wep(struct return 0; } -static int orinoco_hw_get_bssid(struct orinoco_private *priv, char buf[ETH_ALEN]) +/* This is called only once from orinoco_ioctl_getwap(). */ +static inline int orinoco_hw_get_bssid(struct orinoco_private *priv, + char buf[ETH_ALEN]) { hermes_t *hw = &priv->hw; int err = 0; @@ -924,8 +943,10 @@ static int orinoco_hw_get_bssid(struct o return err; } -static int orinoco_hw_get_essid(struct orinoco_private *priv, int *active, - char buf[IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE+1]) +/* This is called only once from orinoco_ioctl_getessid(). */ +static inline int orinoco_hw_get_essid(struct orinoco_private *priv, + int *active, + char buf[IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE+1]) { hermes_t *hw = &priv->hw; int err = 0; @@ -979,7 +1000,8 @@ static int orinoco_hw_get_essid(struct o return err; } -static long orinoco_hw_get_freq(struct orinoco_private *priv) +/* This is called only once from orinoco_ioctl_getfreq(). */ +static inline long orinoco_hw_get_freq(struct orinoco_private *priv) { hermes_t *hw = &priv->hw; @@ -1011,8 +1033,10 @@ static long orinoco_hw_get_freq(struct o return err ? err : freq; } -static int orinoco_hw_get_bitratelist(struct orinoco_private *priv, int *numrates, - int32_t *rates, int max) +/* This is called only once from orinoco_ioctl_getiwrange(). */ +static inline int orinoco_hw_get_bitratelist(struct orinoco_private *priv, + int *numrates, + int32_t *rates, int max) { hermes_t *hw = &priv->hw; struct hermes_idstring list; @@ -2138,175 +2162,235 @@ orinoco_tx_timeout(struct net_device *de } } -static int orinoco_ioctl_getiwrange(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_point *rrq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_getname(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) +{ + strcpy(wrqu->name, "IEEE 802.11-DS"); + return 0; +} + +static int orinoco_ioctl_getwap(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) +{ + struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; + + wrqu->ap_addr.sa_family = ARPHRD_ETHER; + return orinoco_hw_get_bssid(priv, wrqu->ap_addr.sa_data); +} + +static int orinoco_ioctl_setmode(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) +{ + struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; + int err = -EINPROGRESS; /* Call commit handler */ + + orinoco_lock(priv); + switch (wrqu->mode) { + case IW_MODE_ADHOC: + if (! (priv->has_ibss || priv->has_port3) ) + err = -EINVAL; + else { + priv->iw_mode = IW_MODE_ADHOC; + } + break; + + case IW_MODE_INFRA: + priv->iw_mode = IW_MODE_INFRA; + break; + + default: + err = -EINVAL; + break; + } + set_port_type(priv); + orinoco_unlock(priv); + + return err; +} + +static int orinoco_ioctl_getmode(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) +{ + struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; + + /* No real need to lock here */ + orinoco_lock(priv); + wrqu->mode = priv->iw_mode; + orinoco_unlock(priv); + return 0; +} + +static int orinoco_ioctl_getiwrange(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; int err = 0; int mode; - struct iw_range range; + struct iw_range *range = (struct iw_range *) extra; int numrates; int i, k; TRACE_ENTER(dev->name); - err = verify_area(VERIFY_WRITE, rrq->pointer, sizeof(range)); - if (err) - return err; + wrqu->data.length = sizeof(struct iw_range); - rrq->length = sizeof(range); - - orinoco_lock(priv); - mode = priv->iw_mode; - orinoco_unlock(priv); - - memset(&range, 0, sizeof(range)); + memset(range, 0, sizeof(struct iw_range)); /* Much of this shamelessly taken from wvlan_cs.c. No idea * what it all means -dgibson */ #if WIRELESS_EXT > 10 - range.we_version_compiled = WIRELESS_EXT; - range.we_version_source = 11; + range->we_version_compiled = WIRELESS_EXT; + range->we_version_source = 13; #endif /* WIRELESS_EXT > 10 */ - range.min_nwid = range.max_nwid = 0; /* We don't use nwids */ + // Already done in memset, don't redo it + range->min_nwid = range->max_nwid = 0; /* We don't use nwids */ /* Set available channels/frequencies */ - range.num_channels = NUM_CHANNELS; + range->num_channels = NUM_CHANNELS; k = 0; for (i = 0; i < NUM_CHANNELS; i++) { if (priv->channel_mask & (1 << i)) { - range.freq[k].i = i + 1; - range.freq[k].m = channel_frequency[i] * 100000; - range.freq[k].e = 1; + range->freq[k].i = i + 1; + range->freq[k].m = channel_frequency[i] * 100000; + range->freq[k].e = 1; k++; } if (k >= IW_MAX_FREQUENCIES) break; } - range.num_frequency = k; + range->num_frequency = k; + + range->sensitivity = 3; + + orinoco_lock(priv); + /* Group all operation that need locking here - Jean II */ + /* Actually, as we just read a bunch of ints, we don't really + * need any locking (writing an int is atomic) - Jean II */ + mode = priv->iw_mode; + if (priv->has_wep) { + range->max_encoding_tokens = ORINOCO_MAX_KEYS; - range.sensitivity = 3; + range->encoding_size[0] = SMALL_KEY_SIZE; + range->num_encoding_sizes = 1; + + if (priv->has_big_wep) { + range->encoding_size[1] = LARGE_KEY_SIZE; + range->num_encoding_sizes = 2; + } + } else { + // Already done in memset, don't redo it + range->num_encoding_sizes = 0; + range->max_encoding_tokens = 0; + } + orinoco_unlock(priv); if ((mode == IW_MODE_ADHOC) && (priv->spy_number == 0)){ /* Quality stats meaningless in ad-hoc mode */ - range.max_qual.qual = 0; - range.max_qual.level = 0; - range.max_qual.noise = 0; + range->max_qual.qual = 0; + range->max_qual.level = 0; + range->max_qual.noise = 0; + // Already done in memset, don't redo it #if WIRELESS_EXT > 11 - range.avg_qual.qual = 0; - range.avg_qual.level = 0; - range.avg_qual.noise = 0; + range->avg_qual.qual = 0; + range->avg_qual.level = 0; + range->avg_qual.noise = 0; #endif /* WIRELESS_EXT > 11 */ } else { - range.max_qual.qual = 0x8b - 0x2f; - range.max_qual.level = 0x2f - 0x95 - 1; - range.max_qual.noise = 0x2f - 0x95 - 1; + range->max_qual.qual = 0x8b - 0x2f; + range->max_qual.level = 0x2f - 0x95 - 1; + range->max_qual.noise = 0x2f - 0x95 - 1; #if WIRELESS_EXT > 11 /* Need to get better values */ - range.avg_qual.qual = 0x24; - range.avg_qual.level = 0xC2; - range.avg_qual.noise = 0x9E; + range->avg_qual.qual = 0x24; + range->avg_qual.level = 0xC2; + range->avg_qual.noise = 0x9E; #endif /* WIRELESS_EXT > 11 */ } err = orinoco_hw_get_bitratelist(priv, &numrates, - range.bitrate, IW_MAX_BITRATES); + range->bitrate, IW_MAX_BITRATES); if (err) return err; - range.num_bitrates = numrates; + range->num_bitrates = numrates; /* Set an indication of the max TCP throughput in bit/s that we can * expect using this interface. May be use for QoS stuff... * Jean II */ if(numrates > 2) - range.throughput = 5 * 1000 * 1000; /* ~5 Mb/s */ + range->throughput = 5 * 1000 * 1000; /* ~5 Mb/s */ else - range.throughput = 1.5 * 1000 * 1000; /* ~1.5 Mb/s */ - - range.min_rts = 0; - range.max_rts = 2347; - range.min_frag = 256; - range.max_frag = 2346; + range->throughput = 1.5 * 1000 * 1000; /* ~1.5 Mb/s */ - orinoco_lock(priv); - if (priv->has_wep) { - range.max_encoding_tokens = ORINOCO_MAX_KEYS; - - range.encoding_size[0] = SMALL_KEY_SIZE; - range.num_encoding_sizes = 1; - - if (priv->has_big_wep) { - range.encoding_size[1] = LARGE_KEY_SIZE; - range.num_encoding_sizes = 2; - } - } else { - range.num_encoding_sizes = 0; - range.max_encoding_tokens = 0; - } - orinoco_unlock(priv); - - range.min_pmp = 0; - range.max_pmp = 65535000; - range.min_pmt = 0; - range.max_pmt = 65535 * 1000; /* ??? */ - range.pmp_flags = IW_POWER_PERIOD; - range.pmt_flags = IW_POWER_TIMEOUT; - range.pm_capa = IW_POWER_PERIOD | IW_POWER_TIMEOUT | IW_POWER_UNICAST_R; - - range.num_txpower = 1; - range.txpower[0] = 15; /* 15dBm */ - range.txpower_capa = IW_TXPOW_DBM; + range->min_rts = 0; + range->max_rts = 2347; + range->min_frag = 256; + range->max_frag = 2346; + + range->min_pmp = 0; + range->max_pmp = 65535000; + range->min_pmt = 0; + range->max_pmt = 65535 * 1000; /* ??? */ + range->pmp_flags = IW_POWER_PERIOD; + range->pmt_flags = IW_POWER_TIMEOUT; + range->pm_capa = IW_POWER_PERIOD | IW_POWER_TIMEOUT | IW_POWER_UNICAST_R; + + range->num_txpower = 1; + range->txpower[0] = 15; /* 15dBm */ + range->txpower_capa = IW_TXPOW_DBM; #if WIRELESS_EXT > 10 - range.retry_capa = IW_RETRY_LIMIT | IW_RETRY_LIFETIME; - range.retry_flags = IW_RETRY_LIMIT; - range.r_time_flags = IW_RETRY_LIFETIME; - range.min_retry = 0; - range.max_retry = 65535; /* ??? */ - range.min_r_time = 0; - range.max_r_time = 65535 * 1000; /* ??? */ + range->retry_capa = IW_RETRY_LIMIT | IW_RETRY_LIFETIME; + range->retry_flags = IW_RETRY_LIMIT; + range->r_time_flags = IW_RETRY_LIFETIME; + range->min_retry = 0; + range->max_retry = 65535; /* ??? */ + range->min_r_time = 0; + range->max_r_time = 65535 * 1000; /* ??? */ #endif /* WIRELESS_EXT > 10 */ - if (copy_to_user(rrq->pointer, &range, sizeof(range))) - return -EFAULT; - TRACE_EXIT(dev->name); return 0; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_setiwencode(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_point *erq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_setiwencode(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *keybuf) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; - int index = (erq->flags & IW_ENCODE_INDEX) - 1; + int index = (wrqu->encoding.flags & IW_ENCODE_INDEX) - 1; int setindex = priv->tx_key; int enable = priv->wep_on; int restricted = priv->wep_restrict; u16 xlen = 0; - int err = 0; - char keybuf[ORINOCO_MAX_KEY_SIZE]; + int err = -EINPROGRESS; /* Call commit handler */ - if (erq->pointer) { - /* We actually have a key to set */ - if ( (erq->length < SMALL_KEY_SIZE) || (erq->length > ORINOCO_MAX_KEY_SIZE) ) - return -EINVAL; - - if (copy_from_user(keybuf, erq->pointer, erq->length)) - return -EFAULT; + if (! priv->has_wep) { + return -EOPNOTSUPP; } - + orinoco_lock(priv); - if (erq->pointer) { - if (erq->length > ORINOCO_MAX_KEY_SIZE) { - err = -E2BIG; - goto out; - } - - if ( (erq->length > LARGE_KEY_SIZE) - || ( ! priv->has_big_wep && (erq->length > SMALL_KEY_SIZE)) ) { + if (wrqu->encoding.length > 0) { + /* Check key size. Either it's small size, or it large (but + * only if the device support large keys) - Jean II */ + if ( (wrqu->encoding.length > LARGE_KEY_SIZE) + || ( ! priv->has_big_wep && + (wrqu->encoding.length > SMALL_KEY_SIZE)) ) { err = -EINVAL; goto out; } @@ -2314,9 +2398,9 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_setiwencode(str if ((index < 0) || (index >= ORINOCO_MAX_KEYS)) index = priv->tx_key; - if (erq->length > SMALL_KEY_SIZE) { + if (wrqu->encoding.length > SMALL_KEY_SIZE) { xlen = LARGE_KEY_SIZE; - } else if (erq->length > 0) { + } else if (wrqu->encoding.length > 0) { xlen = SMALL_KEY_SIZE; } else xlen = 0; @@ -2331,7 +2415,7 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_setiwencode(str * we will arrive there with an index of -1. This is valid * but need to be taken care off... Jean II */ if ((index < 0) || (index >= ORINOCO_MAX_KEYS)) { - if((index != -1) || (erq->flags == 0)) { + if((index != -1) || (wrqu->encoding.flags == 0)) { err = -EINVAL; goto out; } @@ -2345,18 +2429,18 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_setiwencode(str } } - if (erq->flags & IW_ENCODE_DISABLED) + if (wrqu->encoding.flags & IW_ENCODE_DISABLED) enable = 0; /* Only for Prism2 & Symbol cards (so far) - Jean II */ - if (erq->flags & IW_ENCODE_OPEN) + if (wrqu->encoding.flags & IW_ENCODE_OPEN) restricted = 0; - if (erq->flags & IW_ENCODE_RESTRICTED) + if (wrqu->encoding.flags & IW_ENCODE_RESTRICTED) restricted = 1; - if (erq->pointer) { + if (wrqu->encoding.length > 0) { priv->keys[index].len = cpu_to_le16(xlen); memset(priv->keys[index].data, 0, sizeof(priv->keys[index].data)); - memcpy(priv->keys[index].data, keybuf, erq->length); + memcpy(priv->keys[index].data, keybuf, wrqu->encoding.length); } priv->tx_key = setindex; priv->wep_on = enable; @@ -2365,87 +2449,88 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_setiwencode(str out: orinoco_unlock(priv); - return 0; + return err; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_getiwencode(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_point *erq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_getiwencode(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *keybuf) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; - int index = (erq->flags & IW_ENCODE_INDEX) - 1; + int index = (wrqu->encoding.flags & IW_ENCODE_INDEX) - 1; u16 xlen = 0; - char keybuf[ORINOCO_MAX_KEY_SIZE]; - + if (! priv->has_wep) { + return -EOPNOTSUPP; + } + orinoco_lock(priv); if ((index < 0) || (index >= ORINOCO_MAX_KEYS)) index = priv->tx_key; - erq->flags = 0; + wrqu->encoding.flags = 0; if (! priv->wep_on) - erq->flags |= IW_ENCODE_DISABLED; - erq->flags |= index + 1; + wrqu->encoding.flags |= IW_ENCODE_DISABLED; + wrqu->encoding.flags |= index + 1; /* Only for symbol cards - Jean II */ if (priv->firmware_type != FIRMWARE_TYPE_AGERE) { if(priv->wep_restrict) - erq->flags |= IW_ENCODE_RESTRICTED; + wrqu->encoding.flags |= IW_ENCODE_RESTRICTED; else - erq->flags |= IW_ENCODE_OPEN; + wrqu->encoding.flags |= IW_ENCODE_OPEN; } xlen = le16_to_cpu(priv->keys[index].len); - erq->length = xlen; + wrqu->encoding.length = xlen; - if (erq->pointer) { - memcpy(keybuf, priv->keys[index].data, ORINOCO_MAX_KEY_SIZE); - } + memcpy(keybuf, priv->keys[index].data, ORINOCO_MAX_KEY_SIZE); orinoco_unlock(priv); - if (erq->pointer) { - if (copy_to_user(erq->pointer, keybuf, xlen)) - return -EFAULT; - } - return 0; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_setessid(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_point *erq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_setessid(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *essidbuf) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; - char essidbuf[IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE+1]; /* Note : ESSID is ignored in Ad-Hoc demo mode, but we can set it * anyway... - Jean II */ - memset(&essidbuf, 0, sizeof(essidbuf)); - - if (erq->flags) { - if (erq->length > IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE) - return -E2BIG; + /* Hum... Should not use Wireless Extension constant (may change), + * should use our own... - Jean II */ + if (wrqu->essid.length > IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE) + return -E2BIG; - if (copy_from_user(&essidbuf, erq->pointer, erq->length)) - return -EFAULT; - - essidbuf[erq->length] = '\0'; - } - orinoco_lock(priv); - memcpy(priv->desired_essid, essidbuf, sizeof(priv->desired_essid)); + /* NULL the string (for NULL termination & ESSID = ANY) - Jean II */ + memset(priv->desired_essid, 0, sizeof(priv->desired_essid)); + + /* If not ANY, get the new ESSID */ + if (wrqu->essid.flags) { + memcpy(priv->desired_essid, essidbuf, wrqu->essid.length); + } orinoco_unlock(priv); - return 0; + return -EINPROGRESS; /* Call commit handler */ } -static int orinoco_ioctl_getessid(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_point *erq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_getessid(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *essidbuf) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; - char essidbuf[IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE+1]; - int active; + int active; /* ??? */ int err = 0; TRACE_ENTER(dev->name); @@ -2454,59 +2539,55 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_getessid(struct if (err) return err; - erq->flags = 1; - erq->length = strlen(essidbuf) + 1; - if (erq->pointer) - if ( copy_to_user(erq->pointer, essidbuf, erq->length) ) - return -EFAULT; + wrqu->essid.flags = 1; + wrqu->essid.length = strlen(essidbuf) + 1; TRACE_EXIT(dev->name); return 0; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_setnick(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_point *nrq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_setnick(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *nickbuf) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; - char nickbuf[IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE+1]; - if (nrq->length > IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE) + if (wrqu->essid.length > IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE) return -E2BIG; - memset(nickbuf, 0, sizeof(nickbuf)); - - if (copy_from_user(nickbuf, nrq->pointer, nrq->length)) - return -EFAULT; - - nickbuf[nrq->length] = '\0'; - orinoco_lock(priv); - memcpy(priv->nick, nickbuf, sizeof(priv->nick)); + memset(priv->nick, 0, sizeof(priv->nick)); + + memcpy(priv->nick, nickbuf, wrqu->essid.length); orinoco_unlock(priv); - return 0; + return -EINPROGRESS; /* Call commit handler */ } -static int orinoco_ioctl_getnick(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_point *nrq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_getnick(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *nickbuf) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; - char nickbuf[IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE+1]; orinoco_lock(priv); memcpy(nickbuf, priv->nick, IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE+1); orinoco_unlock(priv); - nrq->length = strlen(nickbuf)+1; - - if (copy_to_user(nrq->pointer, nickbuf, sizeof(nickbuf))) - return -EFAULT; + wrqu->essid.length = strlen(nickbuf) + 1; return 0; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_setfreq(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_freq *frq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_setfreq(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; int chan = -1; @@ -2517,19 +2598,19 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_setfreq(struct if (priv->iw_mode != IW_MODE_ADHOC) return -EOPNOTSUPP; - if ( (frq->e == 0) && (frq->m <= 1000) ) { + if ( (wrqu->freq.e == 0) && (wrqu->freq.m <= 1000) ) { /* Setting by channel number */ - chan = frq->m; + chan = wrqu->freq.m; } else { /* Setting by frequency - search the table */ int mult = 1; int i; - for (i = 0; i < (6 - frq->e); i++) + for (i = 0; i < (6 - wrqu->freq.e); i++) mult *= 10; for (i = 0; i < NUM_CHANNELS; i++) - if (frq->m == (channel_frequency[i] * mult)) + if (wrqu->freq.m == (channel_frequency[i] * mult)) chan = i+1; } @@ -2541,10 +2622,26 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_setfreq(struct priv->channel = chan; orinoco_unlock(priv); + return -EINPROGRESS; /* Call commit handler */ +} + +static int orinoco_ioctl_getfreq(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) +{ + struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; + + /* Locking done in there */ + wrqu->freq.m = orinoco_hw_get_freq(priv); + wrqu->freq.e = 1; return 0; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_getsens(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_param *srq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_getsens(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; hermes_t *hw = &priv->hw; @@ -2558,16 +2655,19 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_getsens(struct if (err) return err; - srq->value = val; - srq->fixed = 0; /* auto */ + wrqu->sens.value = val; + wrqu->sens.fixed = 0; /* auto */ return 0; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_setsens(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_param *srq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_setsens(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; - int val = srq->value; + int val = wrqu->sens.value; if ((val < 1) || (val > 3)) return -EINVAL; @@ -2576,15 +2676,18 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_setsens(struct priv->ap_density = val; orinoco_unlock(priv); - return 0; + return -EINPROGRESS; /* Call commit handler */ } -static int orinoco_ioctl_setrts(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_param *rrq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_setrts(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; - int val = rrq->value; + int val = wrqu->rts.value; - if (rrq->disabled) + if (wrqu->rts.disabled) val = 2347; if ( (val < 0) || (val > 2347) ) @@ -2594,33 +2697,51 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_setrts(struct n priv->rts_thresh = val; orinoco_unlock(priv); + return -EINPROGRESS; /* Call commit handler */ +} + +static int orinoco_ioctl_getrts(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) +{ + struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; + + wrqu->rts.value = priv->rts_thresh; + wrqu->rts.disabled = (wrqu->rts.value == 2347); + wrqu->rts.fixed = 1; return 0; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_setfrag(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_param *frq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_setfrag(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; - int err = 0; + int err = -EINPROGRESS; /* Call commit handler */ orinoco_lock(priv); if (priv->has_mwo) { - if (frq->disabled) + if (wrqu->frag.disabled) priv->mwo_robust = 0; else { - if (frq->fixed) + if (wrqu->frag.fixed) printk(KERN_WARNING "%s: Fixed fragmentation not \ supported on this firmware. Using MWO robust instead.\n", dev->name); priv->mwo_robust = 1; } } else { - if (frq->disabled) + if (wrqu->frag.disabled) priv->frag_thresh = 2346; else { - if ( (frq->value < 256) || (frq->value > 2346) ) + if ( (wrqu->frag.value < 256) || + (wrqu->frag.value > 2346) ) err = -EINVAL; else - priv->frag_thresh = frq->value & ~0x1; /* must be even */ + /* value must be even */ + priv->frag_thresh = wrqu->frag.value & ~0x1; } } @@ -2629,7 +2750,10 @@ supported on this firmware. Using MWO ro return err; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_getfrag(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_param *frq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_getfrag(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; hermes_t *hw = &priv->hw; @@ -2645,18 +2769,18 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_getfrag(struct if (err) val = 0; - frq->value = val ? 2347 : 0; - frq->disabled = ! val; - frq->fixed = 0; + wrqu->frag.value = val ? 2347 : 0; + wrqu->frag.disabled = ! val; + wrqu->frag.fixed = 0; } else { err = hermes_read_wordrec(hw, USER_BAP, HERMES_RID_CNFFRAGMENTATIONTHRESHOLD, &val); if (err) val = 0; - frq->value = val; - frq->disabled = (val >= 2346); - frq->fixed = 1; + wrqu->frag.value = val; + wrqu->frag.disabled = (val >= 2346); + wrqu->frag.fixed = 1; } orinoco_unlock(priv); @@ -2664,21 +2788,24 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_getfrag(struct return err; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_setrate(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_param *rrq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_setrate(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; - int err = 0; + int err = -EINPROGRESS; /* Call commit handler */ int ratemode = -1; int bitrate; /* 100s of kilobits */ int i; /* As the user space doesn't know our highest rate, it uses * -1 to ask us to set the highest rate - Jean II */ - if(rrq->value == -1) + if(wrqu->bitrate.value == -1) bitrate = 110; else { - bitrate = rrq->value / 100000; - if (rrq->value % 100000) + bitrate = wrqu->bitrate.value / 100000; + if (wrqu->bitrate.value % 100000) return -EINVAL; } @@ -2688,7 +2815,7 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_setrate(struct for (i = 0; i < BITRATE_TABLE_SIZE; i++) if ( (bitrate_table[i].bitrate == bitrate) && - (bitrate_table[i].automatic == ! rrq->fixed) ) { + (bitrate_table[i].automatic == ! wrqu->bitrate.fixed) ) { ratemode = i; break; } @@ -2703,7 +2830,10 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_setrate(struct return err; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_getrate(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_param *rrq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_getrate(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; hermes_t *hw = &priv->hw; @@ -2722,9 +2852,9 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_getrate(struct /* The firmware will tell us the current rate, but won't tell * us if it's automatic or not, so we need to remember what we * set - Jean II */ - rrq->fixed = ! bitrate_table[ratemode].automatic; - rrq->value = bitrate_table[ratemode].bitrate * 100000; - rrq->disabled = 0; + wrqu->bitrate.fixed = ! bitrate_table[ratemode].automatic; + wrqu->bitrate.value = bitrate_table[ratemode].bitrate * 100000; + wrqu->bitrate.disabled = 0; if (netif_running(dev)) { /* If the device is actually operation we try to find more, @@ -2742,9 +2872,9 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_getrate(struct * encoding of HERMES_RID_CNFTXRATECONTROL. * Don't forget that 6Mb/s is really 5.5Mb/s */ if(val == 6) - rrq->value = 5500000; + wrqu->bitrate.value = 5500000; else - rrq->value = val * 1000000; + wrqu->bitrate.value = val * 1000000; break; case FIRMWARE_TYPE_INTERSIL: /* Intersil style rate */ case FIRMWARE_TYPE_SYMBOL: /* Symbol style rate */ @@ -2756,7 +2886,7 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_getrate(struct if (i >= BITRATE_TABLE_SIZE) printk(KERN_INFO "%s: Unable to determine current bitrate (0x%04hx)\n", dev->name, val); - rrq->value = bitrate_table[ratemode].bitrate * 100000; + wrqu->bitrate.value = bitrate_table[ratemode].bitrate * 100000; break; default: BUG(); @@ -2769,18 +2899,20 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_getrate(struct return err; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_setpower(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_param *prq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_setpower(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; - int err = 0; - + int err = -EINPROGRESS; /* Call commit handler */ orinoco_lock(priv); - if (prq->disabled) { + if (wrqu->power.disabled) { priv->pm_on = 0; } else { - switch (prq->flags & IW_POWER_MODE) { + switch (wrqu->power.flags & IW_POWER_MODE) { case IW_POWER_UNICAST_R: priv->pm_mcast = 0; priv->pm_on = 1; @@ -2798,13 +2930,13 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_setpower(struct if (err) goto out; - if (prq->flags & IW_POWER_TIMEOUT) { + if (wrqu->power.flags & IW_POWER_TIMEOUT) { priv->pm_on = 1; - priv->pm_timeout = prq->value / 1000; + priv->pm_timeout = wrqu->power.value / 1000; } - if (prq->flags & IW_POWER_PERIOD) { + if (wrqu->power.flags & IW_POWER_PERIOD) { priv->pm_on = 1; - priv->pm_period = prq->value / 1000; + priv->pm_period = wrqu->power.value / 1000; } /* It's valid to not have a value if we are just toggling * the flags... Jean II */ @@ -2820,7 +2952,10 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_setpower(struct return err; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_getpower(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_param *prq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_getpower(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; hermes_t *hw = &priv->hw; @@ -2846,19 +2981,19 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_getpower(struct if (err) goto out; - prq->disabled = !enable; + wrqu->power.disabled = !enable; /* Note : by default, display the period */ - if ((prq->flags & IW_POWER_TYPE) == IW_POWER_TIMEOUT) { - prq->flags = IW_POWER_TIMEOUT; - prq->value = timeout * 1000; + if ((wrqu->power.flags & IW_POWER_TYPE) == IW_POWER_TIMEOUT) { + wrqu->power.flags = IW_POWER_TIMEOUT; + wrqu->power.value = timeout * 1000; } else { - prq->flags = IW_POWER_PERIOD; - prq->value = period * 1000; + wrqu->power.flags = IW_POWER_PERIOD; + wrqu->power.value = period * 1000; } if (mcast) - prq->flags |= IW_POWER_ALL_R; + wrqu->power.flags |= IW_POWER_ALL_R; else - prq->flags |= IW_POWER_UNICAST_R; + wrqu->power.flags |= IW_POWER_UNICAST_R; out: orinoco_unlock(priv); @@ -2866,8 +3001,24 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_getpower(struct return err; } +static int orinoco_ioctl_gettxpower(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) +{ + /* The card only supports one tx power, so this is easy */ + wrqu->txpower.value = 15; /* dBm */ + wrqu->txpower.fixed = 1; + wrqu->txpower.disabled = 0; + wrqu->txpower.flags = IW_TXPOW_DBM; + return 0; +} + #if WIRELESS_EXT > 10 -static int orinoco_ioctl_getretry(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_param *rrq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_getretry(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; hermes_t *hw = &priv->hw; @@ -2891,22 +3042,22 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_getretry(struct if (err) goto out; - rrq->disabled = 0; /* Can't be disabled */ + wrqu->retry.disabled = 0; /* Can't be disabled */ /* Note : by default, display the retry number */ - if ((rrq->flags & IW_RETRY_TYPE) == IW_RETRY_LIFETIME) { - rrq->flags = IW_RETRY_LIFETIME; - rrq->value = lifetime * 1000; /* ??? */ + if ((wrqu->retry.flags & IW_RETRY_TYPE) == IW_RETRY_LIFETIME) { + wrqu->retry.flags = IW_RETRY_LIFETIME; + wrqu->retry.value = lifetime * 1000; /* ??? */ } else { /* By default, display the min number */ - if ((rrq->flags & IW_RETRY_MAX)) { - rrq->flags = IW_RETRY_LIMIT | IW_RETRY_MAX; - rrq->value = long_limit; + if ((wrqu->retry.flags & IW_RETRY_MAX)) { + wrqu->retry.flags = IW_RETRY_LIMIT | IW_RETRY_MAX; + wrqu->retry.value = long_limit; } else { - rrq->flags = IW_RETRY_LIMIT; - rrq->value = short_limit; + wrqu->retry.flags = IW_RETRY_LIMIT; + wrqu->retry.value = short_limit; if(short_limit != long_limit) - rrq->flags |= IW_RETRY_MIN; + wrqu->retry.flags |= IW_RETRY_MIN; } } @@ -2917,10 +3068,36 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_getretry(struct } #endif /* WIRELESS_EXT > 10 */ -static int orinoco_ioctl_setibssport(struct net_device *dev, struct iwreq *wrq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_reset(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) +{ + struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; + + if (! capable(CAP_NET_ADMIN)) + return -EPERM; + + printk(KERN_DEBUG "%s: Forcing reset!\n", dev->name); + + /* COR reset as needed */ + if((info->cmd == (SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x1)) && + (priv->card_reset_handler != NULL)) + priv->card_reset_handler(priv); + + /* Firmware reset */ + orinoco_reset(priv); + + return 0; +} + +static int orinoco_ioctl_setibssport(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; - int val = *( (int *) wrq->u.name ); + int val = *( (int *) extra ); orinoco_lock(priv); priv->ibss_port = val ; @@ -2929,13 +3106,16 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_setibssport(str set_port_type(priv); orinoco_unlock(priv); - return 0; + return -EINPROGRESS; /* Call commit handler */ } -static int orinoco_ioctl_getibssport(struct net_device *dev, struct iwreq *wrq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_getibssport(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; - int *val = (int *)wrq->u.name; + int *val = (int *) extra; orinoco_lock(priv); *val = priv->ibss_port; @@ -2944,11 +3124,14 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_getibssport(str return 0; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_setport3(struct net_device *dev, struct iwreq *wrq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_setport3(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; - int val = *( (int *) wrq->u.name ); - int err = 0; + int val = *( (int *) extra ); + int err = -EINPROGRESS; /* Call commit handler */ orinoco_lock(priv); switch (val) { @@ -2984,10 +3167,13 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_setport3(struct return err; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_getport3(struct net_device *dev, struct iwreq *wrq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_getport3(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; - int *val = (int *)wrq->u.name; + int *val = (int *) extra; orinoco_lock(priv); *val = priv->prefer_port3; @@ -2996,26 +3182,64 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_getport3(struct return 0; } +static int orinoco_ioctl_setpreamble(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) +{ + struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; + + /* 802.11b has recently defined some short preamble. + * Basically, the Phy header has been reduced in size. + * This increase performance, especially at high rates + * (the preamble is transmitted at 1Mb/s), unfortunately + * this give compatibility troubles... - Jean II */ + if(priv->has_preamble) { + int val = *( (int *) extra ); + + orinoco_lock(priv); + if(val) + priv->preamble = 1; + else + priv->preamble = 0; + orinoco_unlock(priv); + + return -EINPROGRESS; /* Call commit handler */ + } else + return -EOPNOTSUPP; +} + +static int orinoco_ioctl_getpreamble(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) +{ + struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; + + if(priv->has_preamble) { + int *val = (int *) extra; + + orinoco_lock(priv); + *val = priv->preamble; + orinoco_unlock(priv); + + return 0; + } else + return -EOPNOTSUPP; +} + /* Spy is used for link quality/strength measurements in Ad-Hoc mode * Jean II */ -static int orinoco_ioctl_setspy(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_point *srq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_setspy(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; - struct sockaddr address[IW_MAX_SPY]; - int number = srq->length; + struct sockaddr *address = (struct sockaddr *) extra; + int number = wrqu->data.length; int i; - int err = 0; - - /* Check the number of addresses */ - if (number > IW_MAX_SPY) - return -E2BIG; - - /* Get the data in the driver */ - if (srq->pointer) { - if (copy_from_user(address, srq->pointer, - sizeof(struct sockaddr) * number)) - return -EFAULT; - } + int err = 0; /* Do NOT call commit handler */ /* Make sure nobody mess with the structure while we do */ orinoco_lock(priv); @@ -3052,55 +3276,176 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_setspy(struct n return err; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_getspy(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_point *srq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_getspy(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; - struct sockaddr address[IW_MAX_SPY]; - struct iw_quality spy_stat[IW_MAX_SPY]; + struct sockaddr *address = (struct sockaddr *) extra; int number; int i; orinoco_lock(priv); number = priv->spy_number; - if ((number > 0) && (srq->pointer)) { - /* Create address struct */ - for (i = 0; i < number; i++) { - memcpy(address[i].sa_data, priv->spy_address[i], - ETH_ALEN); - address[i].sa_family = AF_UNIX; - } + /* Create address struct */ + for (i = 0; i < number; i++) { + memcpy(address[i].sa_data, priv->spy_address[i], + ETH_ALEN); + address[i].sa_family = AF_UNIX; + } + if (number > 0) { /* Copy stats */ /* In theory, we should disable irqs while copying the stats * because the rx path migh update it in the middle... * Bah, who care ? - Jean II */ - memcpy(&spy_stat, priv->spy_stat, - sizeof(struct iw_quality) * IW_MAX_SPY); - for (i=0; i < number; i++) - priv->spy_stat[i].updated = 0; + memcpy(extra + (sizeof(struct sockaddr) * number), + priv->spy_stat, sizeof(struct iw_quality) * number); } + /* Reset updated flags. */ + for (i=0; i < number; i++) + priv->spy_stat[i].updated = 0; orinoco_unlock(priv); - /* Push stuff to user space */ - srq->length = number; - if(copy_to_user(srq->pointer, address, - sizeof(struct sockaddr) * number)) - return -EFAULT; - if(copy_to_user(srq->pointer + (sizeof(struct sockaddr)*number), - &spy_stat, sizeof(struct iw_quality) * number)) - return -EFAULT; + wrqu->data.length = number; return 0; } +/* Commit handler, called after a bunch of SET operation */ +static int orinoco_ioctl_commit(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, /* NULL */ + union iwreq_data *wrqu, /* NULL */ + char *extra) /* NULL */ +{ + struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; + int err = 0; + + DEBUG(1, "%s: commit\n", dev->name); + + err = orinoco_reset(priv); + if (err) { + /* Ouch ! What are we supposed to do ? */ + printk(KERN_ERR "orinoco_cs: Failed to set parameters on %s\n", + dev->name); + netif_stop_queue(dev); + orinoco_shutdown(priv); + priv->hw_ready = 0; + } + + return err; +} + +static const struct iw_priv_args orinoco_privtab[] = { + { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x0, 0, 0, "force_reset" }, + { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x1, 0, 0, "card_reset" }, + { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x2, + IW_PRIV_TYPE_INT | IW_PRIV_SIZE_FIXED | 1, + 0, "set_port3" }, + { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x3, 0, + IW_PRIV_TYPE_INT | IW_PRIV_SIZE_FIXED | 1, + "get_port3" }, + { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x4, + IW_PRIV_TYPE_INT | IW_PRIV_SIZE_FIXED | 1, + 0, "set_preamble" }, + { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x5, 0, + IW_PRIV_TYPE_INT | IW_PRIV_SIZE_FIXED | 1, + "get_preamble" }, + { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x6, + IW_PRIV_TYPE_INT | IW_PRIV_SIZE_FIXED | 1, + 0, "set_ibssport" }, + { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x7, 0, + IW_PRIV_TYPE_INT | IW_PRIV_SIZE_FIXED | 1, + "get_ibssport" } +}; + +#if WIRELESS_EXT > 12 + +/* + * Structures to export the Wireless Handlers + */ + +static const iw_handler orinoco_handler[] = +{ + orinoco_ioctl_commit, /* SIOCSIWCOMMIT */ + orinoco_ioctl_getname, /* SIOCGIWNAME */ + NULL, /* SIOCSIWNWID */ + NULL, /* SIOCGIWNWID */ + orinoco_ioctl_setfreq, /* SIOCSIWFREQ */ + orinoco_ioctl_getfreq, /* SIOCGIWFREQ */ + orinoco_ioctl_setmode, /* SIOCSIWMODE */ + orinoco_ioctl_getmode, /* SIOCGIWMODE */ + orinoco_ioctl_setsens, /* SIOCSIWSENS */ + orinoco_ioctl_getsens, /* SIOCGIWSENS */ + NULL, /* SIOCSIWRANGE */ + orinoco_ioctl_getiwrange, /* SIOCGIWRANGE */ + NULL, /* SIOCSIWPRIV */ + NULL, /* SIOCGIWPRIV */ + NULL, /* SIOCSIWSTATS */ + NULL, /* SIOCGIWSTATS */ + orinoco_ioctl_setspy, /* SIOCSIWSPY */ + orinoco_ioctl_getspy, /* SIOCGIWSPY */ + NULL, /* -- hole -- */ + NULL, /* -- hole -- */ + NULL, /* SIOCSIWAP */ + orinoco_ioctl_getwap, /* SIOCGIWAP */ + NULL, /* -- hole -- */ + NULL, /* SIOCGIWAPLIST */ + NULL, /* -- hole -- */ + NULL, /* -- hole -- */ + orinoco_ioctl_setessid, /* SIOCSIWESSID */ + orinoco_ioctl_getessid, /* SIOCGIWESSID */ + orinoco_ioctl_setnick, /* SIOCSIWNICKN */ + orinoco_ioctl_getnick, /* SIOCGIWNICKN */ + NULL, /* -- hole -- */ + NULL, /* -- hole -- */ + orinoco_ioctl_setrate, /* SIOCSIWRATE */ + orinoco_ioctl_getrate, /* SIOCGIWRATE */ + orinoco_ioctl_setrts, /* SIOCSIWRTS */ + orinoco_ioctl_getrts, /* SIOCGIWRTS */ + orinoco_ioctl_setfrag, /* SIOCSIWFRAG */ + orinoco_ioctl_getfrag, /* SIOCGIWFRAG */ + NULL, /* SIOCSIWTXPOW */ + orinoco_ioctl_gettxpower, /* SIOCGIWTXPOW */ + NULL, /* SIOCSIWRETRY */ + orinoco_ioctl_getretry, /* SIOCGIWRETRY */ + orinoco_ioctl_setiwencode, /* SIOCSIWENCODE */ + orinoco_ioctl_getiwencode, /* SIOCGIWENCODE */ + orinoco_ioctl_setpower, /* SIOCSIWPOWER */ + orinoco_ioctl_getpower, /* SIOCGIWPOWER */ +}; + +static const iw_handler orinoco_private_handler[] = +{ + orinoco_ioctl_reset, /* SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV */ + orinoco_ioctl_reset, /* SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 1 */ + orinoco_ioctl_setport3, /* SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 2 */ + orinoco_ioctl_getport3, /* SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 3 */ + orinoco_ioctl_setpreamble, /* SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 4 */ + orinoco_ioctl_getpreamble, /* SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 5 */ + orinoco_ioctl_setibssport, /* SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 6 */ + orinoco_ioctl_getibssport, /* SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 7 */ +}; + +static const struct iw_handler_def orinoco_handler_def = +{ + num_standard: sizeof(orinoco_handler)/sizeof(iw_handler), + num_private: sizeof(orinoco_private_handler)/sizeof(iw_handler), + num_private_args: sizeof(orinoco_privtab)/sizeof(struct iw_priv_args), + standard: (iw_handler *) orinoco_handler, + private: (iw_handler *) orinoco_private_handler, + private_args: (struct iw_priv_args *) orinoco_privtab, +}; + +#else /* WIRELESS_EXT > 12 */ int orinoco_ioctl(struct net_device *dev, struct ifreq *rq, int cmd) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; struct iwreq *wrq = (struct iwreq *)rq; int err = 0; - int changed = 0; TRACE_ENTER(dev->name); @@ -3116,186 +3461,207 @@ orinoco_ioctl(struct net_device *dev, st switch (cmd) { case SIOCGIWNAME: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWNAME\n", dev->name); - strcpy(wrq->u.name, "IEEE 802.11-DS"); + orinoco_ioctl_getname(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), NULL); break; case SIOCGIWAP: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWAP\n", dev->name); - wrq->u.ap_addr.sa_family = ARPHRD_ETHER; - err = orinoco_hw_get_bssid(priv, wrq->u.ap_addr.sa_data); + err = orinoco_ioctl_getwap(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), NULL); break; case SIOCGIWRANGE: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWRANGE\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_getiwrange(dev, &wrq->u.data); + { + struct iw_range range; + err = orinoco_ioctl_getiwrange(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), + (char *) &range); + if (copy_to_user(wrq->u.data.pointer, &range, + sizeof(struct iw_range))) + err = -EFAULT; + } break; case SIOCSIWMODE: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCSIWMODE\n", dev->name); - orinoco_lock(priv); - switch (wrq->u.mode) { - case IW_MODE_ADHOC: - if (! (priv->has_ibss || priv->has_port3) ) - err = -EINVAL; - else { - priv->iw_mode = IW_MODE_ADHOC; - changed = 1; - } - break; - - case IW_MODE_INFRA: - priv->iw_mode = IW_MODE_INFRA; - changed = 1; - break; - - default: - err = -EINVAL; - break; - } - set_port_type(priv); - orinoco_unlock(priv); + err = orinoco_ioctl_setmode(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), NULL); break; case SIOCGIWMODE: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWMODE\n", dev->name); - orinoco_lock(priv); - wrq->u.mode = priv->iw_mode; - orinoco_unlock(priv); + orinoco_ioctl_getmode(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), NULL); break; case SIOCSIWENCODE: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCSIWENCODE\n", dev->name); - if (! priv->has_wep) { - err = -EOPNOTSUPP; - break; + { + char keybuf[ORINOCO_MAX_KEY_SIZE]; + if (wrq->u.encoding.pointer) { + /* We actually have a key to set */ + if (wrq->u.encoding.length > ORINOCO_MAX_KEY_SIZE) { + err = -E2BIG; + break; + } + if (copy_from_user(keybuf, + wrq->u.encoding.pointer, + wrq->u.encoding.length)) { + err = -EFAULT; + break; + } + } else if (wrq->u.encoding.length != 0) { + err = -EINVAL; + break; + } + err = orinoco_ioctl_setiwencode(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), keybuf); } - - err = orinoco_ioctl_setiwencode(dev, &wrq->u.encoding); - if (! err) - changed = 1; break; case SIOCGIWENCODE: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWENCODE\n", dev->name); - if (! priv->has_wep) { - err = -EOPNOTSUPP; - break; - } if (! capable(CAP_NET_ADMIN)) { err = -EPERM; break; } - - err = orinoco_ioctl_getiwencode(dev, &wrq->u.encoding); + { + char keybuf[ORINOCO_MAX_KEY_SIZE]; + err = orinoco_ioctl_getiwencode(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), + keybuf); + if (wrq->u.encoding.pointer) { + if (copy_to_user(wrq->u.encoding.pointer, + keybuf, + wrq->u.encoding.length)) + err= -EFAULT; + } + } break; case SIOCSIWESSID: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCSIWESSID\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_setessid(dev, &wrq->u.essid); - if (! err) - changed = 1; + { + char essidbuf[IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE+1]; + if (wrq->u.essid.length > IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE) { + err = -E2BIG; + break; + } + if (copy_from_user(essidbuf, wrq->u.essid.pointer, + wrq->u.essid.length)) { + err = -EFAULT; + break; + } + err = orinoco_ioctl_setessid(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), + essidbuf); + } break; case SIOCGIWESSID: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWESSID\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_getessid(dev, &wrq->u.essid); + { + char essidbuf[IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE+1]; + err = orinoco_ioctl_getessid(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), + essidbuf); + if (wrq->u.essid.pointer) + if ( copy_to_user(wrq->u.essid.pointer, + essidbuf, + wrq->u.essid.length) ) + err = -EFAULT; + } break; case SIOCSIWNICKN: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCSIWNICKN\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_setnick(dev, &wrq->u.data); - if (! err) - changed = 1; + { + char nickbuf[IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE+1]; + if (wrq->u.essid.length > IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE) { + err = -E2BIG; + break; + } + if (copy_from_user(nickbuf, wrq->u.essid.pointer, + wrq->u.essid.length)) { + err = -EFAULT; + break; + } + err = orinoco_ioctl_setnick(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), + nickbuf); + } break; case SIOCGIWNICKN: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWNICKN\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_getnick(dev, &wrq->u.data); + { + char nickbuf[IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE+1]; + err = orinoco_ioctl_getnick(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), + nickbuf); + if (wrq->u.essid.pointer) + if ( copy_to_user(wrq->u.essid.pointer, + nickbuf, + wrq->u.essid.length) ) + err = -EFAULT; + } break; case SIOCGIWFREQ: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWFREQ\n", dev->name); - wrq->u.freq.m = orinoco_hw_get_freq(priv); - wrq->u.freq.e = 1; + orinoco_ioctl_getfreq(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), NULL); break; case SIOCSIWFREQ: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCSIWFREQ\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_setfreq(dev, &wrq->u.freq); - if (! err) - changed = 1; + err = orinoco_ioctl_setfreq(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), NULL); break; case SIOCGIWSENS: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWSENS\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_getsens(dev, &wrq->u.sens); + err = orinoco_ioctl_getsens(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), NULL); break; case SIOCSIWSENS: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCSIWSENS\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_setsens(dev, &wrq->u.sens); - if (! err) - changed = 1; + err = orinoco_ioctl_setsens(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), NULL); break; case SIOCGIWRTS: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWRTS\n", dev->name); - wrq->u.rts.value = priv->rts_thresh; - wrq->u.rts.disabled = (wrq->u.rts.value == 2347); - wrq->u.rts.fixed = 1; + orinoco_ioctl_getrts(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), NULL); break; case SIOCSIWRTS: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCSIWRTS\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_setrts(dev, &wrq->u.rts); - if (! err) - changed = 1; + err = orinoco_ioctl_setrts(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), NULL); break; case SIOCSIWFRAG: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCSIWFRAG\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_setfrag(dev, &wrq->u.frag); - if (! err) - changed = 1; + err = orinoco_ioctl_setfrag(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), NULL); break; case SIOCGIWFRAG: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWFRAG\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_getfrag(dev, &wrq->u.frag); + err = orinoco_ioctl_getfrag(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), NULL); break; case SIOCSIWRATE: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCSIWRATE\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_setrate(dev, &wrq->u.bitrate); - if (! err) - changed = 1; + err = orinoco_ioctl_setrate(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), NULL); break; case SIOCGIWRATE: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWRATE\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_getrate(dev, &wrq->u.bitrate); + err = orinoco_ioctl_getrate(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), NULL); break; case SIOCSIWPOWER: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCSIWPOWER\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_setpower(dev, &wrq->u.power); - if (! err) - changed = 1; + err = orinoco_ioctl_setpower(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), NULL); break; case SIOCGIWPOWER: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWPOWER\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_getpower(dev, &wrq->u.power); + err = orinoco_ioctl_getpower(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), NULL); break; case SIOCGIWTXPOW: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWTXPOW\n", dev->name); - /* The card only supports one tx power, so this is easy */ - wrq->u.txpower.value = 15; /* dBm */ - wrq->u.txpower.fixed = 1; - wrq->u.txpower.disabled = 0; - wrq->u.txpower.flags = IW_TXPOW_DBM; + orinoco_ioctl_gettxpower(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), NULL); break; #if WIRELESS_EXT > 10 @@ -3306,82 +3672,79 @@ orinoco_ioctl(struct net_device *dev, st case SIOCGIWRETRY: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWRETRY\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_getretry(dev, &wrq->u.retry); + err = orinoco_ioctl_getretry(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), NULL); break; #endif /* WIRELESS_EXT > 10 */ case SIOCSIWSPY: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCSIWSPY\n", dev->name); - - err = orinoco_ioctl_setspy(dev, &wrq->u.data); + { + struct sockaddr address[IW_MAX_SPY]; + /* Check the number of addresses */ + if (wrq->u.data.length > IW_MAX_SPY) { + err = -E2BIG; + break; + } + /* Get the data in the driver */ + if (wrq->u.data.pointer) { + if (copy_from_user((char *) address, + wrq->u.data.pointer, + sizeof(struct sockaddr) * + wrq->u.data.length)) { + err = -EFAULT; + break; + } + } else if (wrq->u.data.length != 0) { + err = -EINVAL; + break; + } + err = orinoco_ioctl_setspy(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), + (char *) address); + } break; case SIOCGIWSPY: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWSPY\n", dev->name); - - err = orinoco_ioctl_getspy(dev, &wrq->u.data); + { + char buffer[IW_MAX_SPY * (sizeof(struct sockaddr) + + sizeof(struct iw_quality))]; + err = orinoco_ioctl_getspy(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), + buffer); + if (wrq->u.data.pointer) { + if (copy_to_user(wrq->u.data.pointer, + buffer, + (wrq->u.data.length * + (sizeof(struct sockaddr) + + sizeof(struct iw_quality))) + )) + err = -EFAULT; + } + } break; case SIOCGIWPRIV: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWPRIV\n", dev->name); if (wrq->u.data.pointer) { - struct iw_priv_args privtab[] = { - { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x0, 0, 0, "force_reset" }, - { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x1, 0, 0, "card_reset" }, - { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x2, - IW_PRIV_TYPE_INT | IW_PRIV_SIZE_FIXED | 1, - 0, "set_port3" }, - { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x3, 0, - IW_PRIV_TYPE_INT | IW_PRIV_SIZE_FIXED | 1, - "get_port3" }, - { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x4, - IW_PRIV_TYPE_INT | IW_PRIV_SIZE_FIXED | 1, - 0, "set_preamble" }, - { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x5, 0, - IW_PRIV_TYPE_INT | IW_PRIV_SIZE_FIXED | 1, - "get_preamble" }, - { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x6, - IW_PRIV_TYPE_INT | IW_PRIV_SIZE_FIXED | 1, - 0, "set_ibssport" }, - { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x7, 0, - IW_PRIV_TYPE_INT | IW_PRIV_SIZE_FIXED | 1, - "get_ibssport" } - }; - - err = verify_area(VERIFY_WRITE, wrq->u.data.pointer, sizeof(privtab)); + err = verify_area(VERIFY_WRITE, wrq->u.data.pointer, sizeof(orinoco_privtab)); if (err) break; - wrq->u.data.length = sizeof(privtab) / sizeof(privtab[0]); - if (copy_to_user(wrq->u.data.pointer, privtab, sizeof(privtab))) + wrq->u.data.length = sizeof(orinoco_privtab) / sizeof(orinoco_privtab[0]); + if (copy_to_user(wrq->u.data.pointer, orinoco_privtab, sizeof(orinoco_privtab))) err = -EFAULT; } break; case SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x0: /* force_reset */ - DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x0 (force_reset)\n", - dev->name); - if (! capable(CAP_NET_ADMIN)) { - err = -EPERM; - break; - } - - printk(KERN_DEBUG "%s: Forcing reset!\n", dev->name); - orinoco_reset(priv); - break; - case SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x1: /* card_reset */ - DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x1 (card_reset)\n", - dev->name); - if (! capable(CAP_NET_ADMIN)) { - err = -EPERM; - break; + DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x%d (force_reset)\n", + dev->name, cmd - SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV); + { + struct iw_request_info info; + info.cmd = cmd; + orinoco_ioctl_reset(dev, &info, &(wrq->u), + (char *) &(wrq->u)); } - - printk(KERN_DEBUG "%s: Forcing card reset!\n", dev->name); - if(priv->card_reset_handler != NULL) - priv->card_reset_handler(priv); - orinoco_reset(priv); break; case SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x2: /* set_port3 */ @@ -3392,15 +3755,15 @@ orinoco_ioctl(struct net_device *dev, st break; } - err = orinoco_ioctl_setport3(dev, wrq); - if (! err) - changed = 1; + err = orinoco_ioctl_setport3(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), + (char *) &(wrq->u)); break; case SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x3: /* get_port3 */ DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x3 (get_port3)\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_getport3(dev, wrq); + err = orinoco_ioctl_getport3(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), + (char *) &(wrq->u)); break; case SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x4: /* set_preamble */ @@ -3411,36 +3774,15 @@ orinoco_ioctl(struct net_device *dev, st break; } - /* 802.11b has recently defined some short preamble. - * Basically, the Phy header has been reduced in size. - * This increase performance, especially at high rates - * (the preamble is transmitted at 1Mb/s), unfortunately - * this give compatibility troubles... - Jean II */ - if(priv->has_preamble) { - int val = *( (int *) wrq->u.name ); - - orinoco_lock(priv); - if(val) - priv->preamble = 1; - else - priv->preamble = 0; - orinoco_unlock(priv); - changed = 1; - } else - err = -EOPNOTSUPP; + err = orinoco_ioctl_setpreamble(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), + (char *) &(wrq->u)); break; case SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x5: /* get_preamble */ DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x5 (get_preamble)\n", dev->name); - if(priv->has_preamble) { - int *val = (int *)wrq->u.name; - - orinoco_lock(priv); - *val = priv->preamble; - orinoco_unlock(priv); - } else - err = -EOPNOTSUPP; + err = orinoco_ioctl_getpreamble(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), + (char *) &(wrq->u)); break; case SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x6: /* set_ibssport */ DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x6 (set_ibssport)\n", @@ -3450,15 +3792,15 @@ orinoco_ioctl(struct net_device *dev, st break; } - err = orinoco_ioctl_setibssport(dev, wrq); - if (! err) - changed = 1; + err = orinoco_ioctl_setibssport(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), + (char *) &(wrq->u)); break; case SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x7: /* get_ibssport */ DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x7 (get_ibssport)\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_getibssport(dev, wrq); + err = orinoco_ioctl_getibssport(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), + (char *) &(wrq->u)); break; @@ -3466,22 +3808,18 @@ orinoco_ioctl(struct net_device *dev, st err = -EOPNOTSUPP; } - if (! err && changed && netif_running(dev)) { - err = orinoco_reset(priv); - if (err) { - /* Ouch ! What are we supposed to do ? */ - printk(KERN_ERR "orinoco_cs: Failed to set parameters on %s\n", - dev->name); - netif_stop_queue(dev); - orinoco_shutdown(priv); - priv->hw_ready = 0; - } - } + if (err == -EINPROGRESS) { + if(netif_running(dev)) + err = orinoco_ioctl_commit(dev, NULL, NULL, NULL); + else + err = 0; /* Success */ + } TRACE_EXIT(dev->name); return err; } +#endif /* WIRELESS_EXT > 12 */ int orinoco_change_mtu(struct net_device *dev, int new_mtu) @@ -4077,7 +4415,11 @@ orinoco_setup(struct orinoco_private* pr dev->get_stats = orinoco_get_stats; dev->get_wireless_stats = orinoco_get_wireless_stats; +#if WIRELESS_EXT > 12 + dev->wireless_handlers = (struct iw_handler_def *)&orinoco_handler_def; +#else /* WIRELESS_EXT > 12 */ dev->do_ioctl = orinoco_ioctl; +#endif /* WIRELESS_EXT > 12 */ dev->change_mtu = orinoco_change_mtu; dev->set_multicast_list = orinoco_set_multicast_list; @@ -4093,7 +4435,6 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(orinoco_debug); EXPORT_SYMBOL(orinoco_init); EXPORT_SYMBOL(orinoco_xmit); EXPORT_SYMBOL(orinoco_tx_timeout); -EXPORT_SYMBOL(orinoco_ioctl); EXPORT_SYMBOL(orinoco_change_mtu); EXPORT_SYMBOL(orinoco_set_multicast_list); EXPORT_SYMBOL(orinoco_shutdown); diff -u -p -r linux/drivers/net/wireless-w12/orinoco.h linux/drivers/net/wireless/orinoco.h --- linux/drivers/net/wireless-w12/orinoco.h Tue Dec 11 15:36:06 2001 +++ linux/drivers/net/wireless/orinoco.h Thu Dec 13 13:31:02 2001 @@ -116,7 +116,9 @@ extern int orinoco_init(struct net_devic extern int orinoco_xmit(struct sk_buff *skb, struct net_device *dev); extern void orinoco_tx_timeout(struct net_device *dev); +#if WIRELESS_EXT <= 12 extern int orinoco_ioctl(struct net_device *dev, struct ifreq *rq, int cmd); +#endif /* WIRELESS_EXT <= 12 */ extern int orinoco_change_mtu(struct net_device *dev, int new_mtu); extern void orinoco_set_multicast_list(struct net_device *dev); --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp-- From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Thu Dec 13 17:18:28 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0807A4257 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 17:18:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id RAA29691; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 17:16:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id RAA05626; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 17:16:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16Egy0-00008a-00; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 17:16:48 -0800 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 17:16:48 -0800 To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list , Aironet mailing list , linux-wlan-user@lists.linux-wlan.com Subject: Some Wireless Extension changes... Message-ID: <20011213171648.A520@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Wireless friends, After some maturation, I've decided to create a new driver API for the Wireless Extensions. The goal is to make the driver support simpler and to integrate better with other user APIs. The new API is working and I'm satisfied. For now, it's just a set of patches available at : http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Tools.html#newapi Now, I'm waiting for comments... Later on I'll try to push that into kernel 2.5.X. Jean P.S. : For people currently working on Wireless Extensions (like Reyk Floeter), don't despair, all the work you do know will migrate trivially to the new API, and the old API won't go away... From dgibson@samba.org Thu Dec 13 17:20:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id DCAF24CD6; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 17:20:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 02:15:39 +0100 From: David Gibson To: jt@hpl.hp.com Cc: Stefan Winter , Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: wireless stuff Message-ID: <20011214021539.F18103@zax> Mail-Followup-To: jt@hpl.hp.com, Stefan Winter , Samba/Wavelan mailing list References: <200111142248.31927@stefan-winter.de> <20011114142040.A5854@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <200112060849.30116@stefan-winter.de> <20011206105921.G17626@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011206105921.G17626@bougret.hpl.hp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 10:59:21AM -0800, Jean Tourrilhes wrote: > On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 08:57:11AM +0100, Stefan Winter wrote: > > Hello Jean, > > > > > No idea. It doesn't seem to be easilly available from within > > > the driver (I didn't see any RID to that effect). Moreover, it's > > > likely to be a proprietary extension. For example, Cisco stuff display > > > the IP address and not the name. > > > > I've ben looking into this a little. This "name" you get is just the > > nslookup'ed IP adress of the access point. If there is no DNS entry in your > > nameserver for that IP, you get only the ip. So, the problem is reduced to > > "how do I get the AP's IP?" > > I guess a tcpdump could do this, but thats not a "clean" solution. Any ideas? > > RARP ? Not nice either. There probably isn't a very nice way of doing this in general - remember an AP doesn't necessasrily have to have an IP at all (although I dare say they all will in practice). > > I have come across a completely different thing: a VERY strange > > misbehaviour... > > If (use an ELSA WLAN ) && (have newest firmware on APs) && (client runs > > Linux) && (APs have set an option named "Station surveillance to detect > > inactive clients" ) then CLIENT CRASHES WITHOUT NOTICE. For some fellow > > students, it is even more strange: on runlevel 3 it crashes, on 5 it does a > > reboot... > > On windows machines, this option doesn't cause any trouble. The error is > > reproducable (for weeks now). Now I just don't have any idea why... the > > orinoco_cs driver ? maybe the pcmcia core? or even a kernel thing? I don't > > have a clue. Can you make anything of this? > > Hu ? I don't know about this option. Probably some invalid > frame comming up the stack. Need to do more checks in rx_handler or > something. Oh great, another crash. Could this be the same as the other one that came up last week? -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From sjh@svana.org Thu Dec 13 21:24:51 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D234198 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 21:24:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from sjh by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16Ekof-0005GW-00; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 16:23:25 +1100 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 16:23:25 +1100 From: Steven Hanley To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Wireless Access Points Message-ID: <20011214162325.A20224@svana.org> Reply-To: Steven Hanley References: <3C193B0B.2BD19983@anu.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3C193B0B.2BD19983@anu.edu.au>; from Robert.Edwards@anu.edu.au on Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 10:34:35AM +1100 User-Agent: Some Random Email Client Organization: much sought in this hectic world Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 10:34:35AM +1100, Bob Edwards wrote: > Another option is to get an Apple Airport and install FreeBSD on it. > I don't have the URL handy, but this works. Then you can configure for > whatever firewall/security you want ala linux. You should be able to > keep use of the modem etc. Or seeing how there are a lot of linux fans out there, put linux on it. Running Linux on the Apple Airport Base Station http://www-hft.ee.tu-berlin.de/~strauman/airport/airport.html See You Steve -- sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh Look Up In The Sky Is it a bird? No Is it a plane No Is it a small blue banana? Yes From c0v3r@earthling.net Thu Dec 13 22:33:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from seedbox.2y.net (c36339.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au [203.164.151.160]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABDB24DDC for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 22:33:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from earthling.net (unknown [192.168.0.1]) by seedbox.2y.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45648448BF for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 16:46:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3C199CF7.8040201@earthling.net> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 17:32:23 +1100 From: C0V3R Reply-To: c0v3r@earthling.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Can someone compile this driver for me? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hey, I've been going crazy trying to get my wireless lan card working under linux, and have spent about 3 days trying to fscking compile the drivers & pcmcia contrib package, but it keeps failing and I dont know why or what to do. If anyone could PLEASE compile the driver; http://www.teletronics.com/tii/support/drivers/pcmcia-wl24-r2-3.1.14.tgz with for kernel 2.2.18 (config file here http://nocat.net/download/kernel/) for me I would be GREATLY appreciative. FYI - I was trying to compile on a 2.4 kernel system but using the 2.2.18 source tree in /usr/src/linux. I dont know where to put the pcmcia package OR the driver files themselves. This was my first try (albeit a 3 day long try) at compiling drivers. Errors (compiling pcmcia): {standard input}: Assembler messages: {standard input}:9: Warning: Ignoring changed section attributes for .modinfo make[1[: *** [cs.o] Error 1 make: *** [all] Error 2 The kernel compiles and runs fine, but I don't know how to include the pcmcia stuff in the compilation and I cant get it to compile after runing make config, make all (as instructed). The card I'm using is a netcomm smart wireless lan card, its the same as the one in the url I posted (same drivers). I believe its based on the Prism 1 chipset. BTW thats a 802.11 (not b) 2mbps DSSS card. I dont know if I had it in the wrong dir or exactly what the process is to compile it. Heres what I did. -Config'd and compiled 2.2.18 -Decompresed the drivers in /usr/src -Decompressed the pcmcia package which was inside the driver pack-make config'd the pcmcia pack -make all'd the pcmcia pack (make failed) The netcomm site is near useless. The tectronic site has the same drivers as the ones that are on the netcomm cd, and the same manual. Im 99.9% sure they are correct, but that isnt my problem *yet* since I cant even compile :P Again if anyone could compile the driver for me I'd be greatly appreciated, or if not could you please give me VERY detailed instructions as to what to put where (esp the pcmcia package) and in what order to run commands to get it to compile. TIA! -- -- Tim =--------------------------------------------------------------------= | public Code programmer(Assignment spec) throws TantrumException {} | | If KFC was open-source, I could get my hands on the Colonel. | | We all live in a yellow subroutine. | =--------------------------------------------------------------------= From kleptog@svana.org Fri Dec 14 00:05:59 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DABE5207 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 00:05:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16EnKX-0005MA-00; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 19:04:29 +1100 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 19:04:29 +1100 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: C0V3R Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Can someone compile this driver for me? Message-ID: <20011214190429.B20531@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout References: <3C199CF7.8040201@earthling.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3C199CF7.8040201@earthling.net>; from c0v3r@earthling.net on Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 05:32:23PM +1100 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 05:32:23PM +1100, C0V3R wrote: > Hey, I've been going crazy trying to get my wireless lan card working > under linux, and have spent about 3 days trying to fscking compile the > drivers & pcmcia contrib package, but it keeps failing and I dont know > why or what to do. If anyone could PLEASE compile the driver; What version of pcmcia? > Errors (compiling pcmcia): > {standard input}: Assembler messages: > {standard input}:9: Warning: Ignoring changed section attributes for > .modinfo > make[1[: *** [cs.o] Error 1 > make: *** [all] Error 2 That's just a warning (I get those messages too, they're harmless). What's the actual error message? > The kernel compiles and runs fine, but I don't know how to include the > pcmcia stuff in the compilation and I cant get it to compile after > runing make config, make all (as instructed). Again, what version? 2.4 even has PCMCIA included (some of it anyway). > The card I'm using is a netcomm smart wireless lan card, its the same as > the one in the url I posted (same drivers). I believe its based on the > Prism 1 chipset. BTW thats a 802.11 (not b) 2mbps DSSS card. Have you looked up the Wireless HOWTO? Which driver does it say to use? > I dont know if I had it in the wrong dir or exactly what the process is > to compile it. Heres what I did. > -Config'd and compiled 2.2.18 > -Decompresed the drivers in /usr/src > -Decompressed the pcmcia package which was inside the driver > pack-make config'd the pcmcia pack > -make all'd the pcmcia pack (make failed) The PCMCIA stuff should be separate from your kernel tree, although you do need to tell it where your kernel source is. > The netcomm site is near useless. The tectronic site has the same > drivers as the ones that are on the netcomm cd, and the same manual. > Im 99.9% sure they are correct, but that isnt my problem *yet* since I > cant even compile :P Post the actual error message please... HTH, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Terrorists can only take my life. Only my government can take my freedom. From c0v3r@earthling.net Fri Dec 14 00:23:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from seedbox.2y.net (c36339.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au [203.164.151.160]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD655222 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 00:23:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from earthling.net (unknown [192.168.0.1]) by seedbox.2y.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6F6448BF; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 18:36:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3C19B6CB.3060700@earthling.net> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 19:22:35 +1100 From: C0V3R Reply-To: c0v3r@earthling.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martijn van Oosterhout Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Can someone compile this driver for me? References: <3C199CF7.8040201@earthling.net> <20011214190429.B20531@svana.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I have managed to get it to compile now under pcmcia 3.1.30, but I'm now getting Checking module dependencies ... depmod *** unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.18/pcmcia/cs_enabler.o depmod *** unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.18/pcmcia/ds.o depmod *** unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.18/pcmcia/dummy_cs.o depmod *** unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.18/pcmcia/i82365.o blah blah ... depmod *** unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.18/pcmcia/wl24_cs.o Any suggestions? I am using the default nocat.net kernel atm, although the drivers were compiled on a different machine using the 2.2.18 source & pcmcia 3.1.30. At the moment Im waiting for the kernel to compile using the nocat config file to see if that alleviates the dependency probs. Sorry to be so non-specific but this is the first time I've really done much kernel/driver compilation. BTW the error I was getting previously (the one that I posted) was the ONLY error I was getting, and the compile just stopped there :/. Aparantly a diff ver of pcmcia helped alot. Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 05:32:23PM +1100, C0V3R wrote: > >>Hey, I've been going crazy trying to get my wireless lan card working >>under linux, and have spent about 3 days trying to fscking compile the >>drivers & pcmcia contrib package, but it keeps failing and I dont know >>why or what to do. If anyone could PLEASE compile the driver; >> > > What version of pcmcia? > > >>Errors (compiling pcmcia): >>{standard input}: Assembler messages: >>{standard input}:9: Warning: Ignoring changed section attributes for >>.modinfo >>make[1[: *** [cs.o] Error 1 >>make: *** [all] Error 2 >> > > That's just a warning (I get those messages too, they're harmless). What's > the actual error message? > > >>The kernel compiles and runs fine, but I don't know how to include the >>pcmcia stuff in the compilation and I cant get it to compile after >>runing make config, make all (as instructed). >> > > Again, what version? 2.4 even has PCMCIA included (some of it anyway). > > >>The card I'm using is a netcomm smart wireless lan card, its the same as >>the one in the url I posted (same drivers). I believe its based on the >>Prism 1 chipset. BTW thats a 802.11 (not b) 2mbps DSSS card. >> > > Have you looked up the Wireless HOWTO? Which driver does it say to use? > > >>I dont know if I had it in the wrong dir or exactly what the process is >>to compile it. Heres what I did. >> -Config'd and compiled 2.2.18 >> -Decompresed the drivers in /usr/src >> -Decompressed the pcmcia package which was inside the driver >> pack-make config'd the pcmcia pack >> -make all'd the pcmcia pack (make failed) >> > > The PCMCIA stuff should be separate from your kernel tree, although you do > need to tell it where your kernel source is. > > >>The netcomm site is near useless. The tectronic site has the same >>drivers as the ones that are on the netcomm cd, and the same manual. >>Im 99.9% sure they are correct, but that isnt my problem *yet* since I >>cant even compile :P >> > > Post the actual error message please... > > HTH, > -- -- Tim =--------------------------------------------------------------------= | public Code programmer(Assignment spec) throws TantrumException {} | | If KFC was open-source, I could get my hands on the Colonel. | | We all live in a yellow subroutine. | =--------------------------------------------------------------------= From kleptog@svana.org Fri Dec 14 00:27:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2255227 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 00:27:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16EnfZ-0005NS-00; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 19:26:13 +1100 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 19:26:12 +1100 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: C0V3R Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Can someone compile this driver for me? Message-ID: <20011214192612.A20600@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout References: <3C199CF7.8040201@earthling.net> <20011214190429.B20531@svana.org> <3C19B6CB.3060700@earthling.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3C19B6CB.3060700@earthling.net>; from c0v3r@earthling.net on Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 07:22:35PM +1100 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 07:22:35PM +1100, C0V3R wrote: > I have managed to get it to compile now under pcmcia 3.1.30, but I'm now > getting > > Checking module dependencies ... > depmod *** unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.18/pcmcia/cs_enabler.o > depmod *** unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.18/pcmcia/ds.o > depmod *** unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.18/pcmcia/dummy_cs.o > depmod *** unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.18/pcmcia/i82365.o > blah blah > ... > depmod *** unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.18/pcmcia/wl24_cs.o The -e option to depmod will tell you what it's missing. > Any suggestions? I am using the default nocat.net kernel atm, although > the drivers were compiled on a different machine using the 2.2.18 source > & pcmcia 3.1.30. At the moment Im waiting for the kernel to compile > using the nocat config file to see if that alleviates the dependency probs. Ok, there's you problem. The pcmcia modules should be compiled on the same machine as the kernel you are running. Thus, if you install the kernel from a package, the pcmcia modules should be from a package also. So, you compile kernel source, install kernel+modules. Then compile pcmcia modules and install them also. Reboot. Voila! > BTW the error I was getting previously (the one that I posted) was the > ONLY error I was getting, and the compile just stopped there :/. > Aparantly a diff ver of pcmcia helped alot. Wierd. HTH, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Terrorists can only take my life. Only my government can take my freedom. From tjco104@cse.unsw.edu.au Fri Dec 14 01:48:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from seedbox.2y.net (c36339.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au [203.164.151.160]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 499E4412A for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 01:48:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from cse.unsw.edu.au (unknown [192.168.0.1]) by seedbox.2y.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED9E44805; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 20:00:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3C19CA9D.80706@cse.unsw.edu.au> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 20:47:09 +1100 From: Tim User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martijn van Oosterhout Cc: C0V3R , wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Can someone compile this driver for me? References: <3C199CF7.8040201@earthling.net> <20011214190429.B20531@svana.org> <3C19B6CB.3060700@earthling.net> <20011214192612.A20600@svana.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://nocat.net/download/kernel/initrd-archive_3.2_2.2.8.diff How do I use this with my kernel source? I need to patch it or something from what I can gather. I've tried chmod 700'ing the file, and executing and am now waiting for the compile to complete. Is this correct? Tim =--------------------------------------------------------------------= | public Code programmer(Assignment spec) throws TantrumException {} | | If KFC was open-source, I could get my hands on the Colonel. | | We all live in a yellow subroutine. | =--------------------------------------------------------------------= From kleptog@svana.org Fri Dec 14 02:02:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC5D4412A for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 02:02:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16Ep9F-0005R7-00; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 21:00:57 +1100 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 21:00:57 +1100 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: Tim Cc: C0V3R , wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Can someone compile this driver for me? Message-ID: <20011214210057.B20680@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout References: <3C199CF7.8040201@earthling.net> <20011214190429.B20531@svana.org> <3C19B6CB.3060700@earthling.net> <20011214192612.A20600@svana.org> <3C19CA9D.80706@cse.unsw.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3C19CA9D.80706@cse.unsw.edu.au>; from tjco104@cse.unsw.edu.au on Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 08:47:09PM +1100 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 08:47:09PM +1100, Tim wrote: > http://nocat.net/download/kernel/initrd-archive_3.2_2.2.8.diff > > How do I use this with my kernel source? > I need to patch it or something from what I can gather. > I've tried chmod 700'ing the file, and executing and am now waiting for > the compile to complete. Is this correct? You need to patch the kernel. Switch to the directory where your kernel source is and execute: patch -p1 < initrd-archive_3.2_2.2.8.diff That will patch the source. -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Terrorists can only take my life. Only my government can take my freedom. From c0v3r@earthling.net Fri Dec 14 06:34:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from seedbox.2y.net (c36339.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au [203.164.151.160]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E27A413E for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 06:34:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from earthling.net (unknown [192.168.0.1]) by seedbox.2y.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF23644896 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 00:47:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3C1A0DBA.4090109@earthling.net> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 01:33:30 +1100 From: C0V3R Reply-To: c0v3r@earthling.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: More driver problems References: <3C199CF7.8040201@earthling.net> <20011214190429.B20531@svana.org> <3C19B6CB.3060700@earthling.net> <20011214192612.A20600@svana.org> <3C19CA9D.80706@cse.unsw.edu.au> <20011214210057.B20680@svana.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Finally managed to get my drivers to compile... but now I cant modprobe them: Warning: /lib/modules/2.2.18/pcmcia/wl24_cs.o symbol for parameter RTSThreshold not found /lib/modules/2.2.18/pcmcia/wl24_cs.o: init_module: Device or resource busy Hint: insmod errors cn be caused by incorrect module paramters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters /lib/modules/2.2.18/pcmcia/wl24_cs.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.2.18/pcmcia/wl24_cs.o failed /lib/modules/2.2.18/pcmcia/wl24_cs.o: insmod wl24_cs failed Ideas/pointers? Tim =--------------------------------------------------------------------= | public Code programmer(Assignment spec) throws TantrumException {} | | If KFC was open-source, I could get my hands on the Colonel. | | We all live in a yellow subroutine. | =--------------------------------------------------------------------= -- -- Tim =--------------------------------------------------------------------= | public Code programmer(Assignment spec) throws TantrumException {} | | If KFC was open-source, I could get my hands on the Colonel. | | We all live in a yellow subroutine. | =--------------------------------------------------------------------= From alex@server.mycity.it Fri Dec 14 06:37:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from server.mycity.it (unknown [195.36.12.70]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A972752F1 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 06:36:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mycity.it (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA28949 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 16:03:53 +0100 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 16:03:53 +0100 Message-Id: <200112141503.QAA28949@server.mycity.it> From: "Alessandro" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Importance: Normal X-Mailer: VisualMail 3.0 ( http://www.minter.com.ar/visualmail ) Subject: MODO BOARD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: HI, For your wireless application (or other advanced application) is available MODO Board, an good embedded PCI board. Is ggod for Router,AP, etc... The web address is: http://www.my-modo.com Regards Alessandro -- Do you VisualMail? Grab a copy of the best WebMailer right now! http://www.mintersoft.com/visualmail From krzynio@info.pruszkow.org Fri Dec 14 06:48:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mx.euromoney.pl (mx.euromoney.pl [213.134.143.13]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B254165 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 06:48:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from info.pruszkow.org ([217.8.176.18]) by mx.euromoney.pl (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id fBEEjqE05389; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 15:46:01 +0100 Message-ID: <3C1A1087.8030606@info.pruszkow.org> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 15:45:27 +0100 From: Krzysztof Koziarek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.6) Gecko/20011120 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: c0v3r@earthling.net Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: More driver problems References: <3C199CF7.8040201@earthling.net> <20011214190429.B20531@svana.org> <3C19B6CB.3060700@earthling.net> <20011214192612.A20600@svana.org> <3C19CA9D.80706@cse.unsw.edu.au> <20011214210057.B20680@svana.org> <3C1A0DBA.4090109@earthling.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: C0V3R wrote: > Finally managed to get my drivers to compile... but now I cant > modprobe them: > > Warning: /lib/modules/2.2.18/pcmcia/wl24_cs.o symbol for parameter > RTSThreshold not found > /lib/modules/2.2.18/pcmcia/wl24_cs.o: init_module: Device or resource > busy > Hint: insmod errors cn be caused by incorrect module paramters, > including invalid IO or IRQ parameters > /lib/modules/2.2.18/pcmcia/wl24_cs.o: insmod > /lib/modules/2.2.18/pcmcia/wl24_cs.o failed > /lib/modules/2.2.18/pcmcia/wl24_cs.o: insmod wl24_cs failed > > Ideas/pointers? > > > Tim > > =--------------------------------------------------------------------= > | public Code programmer(Assignment spec) throws TantrumException {} | > | If KFC was open-source, I could get my hands on the Colonel. | > | We all live in a yellow subroutine. | > =--------------------------------------------------------------------= Hard try. Try to set IRQ for ISA in BIOS (if you're owner of pci->pcmcia bridge). WL24 support for linux is very 'problematic'. I have huge problems with WL24 card - kernel oops, hangs etc. You may want to try: http://src.teras.net.id/wi-lan/pcmcia-wl24-r2-3.1.14.tgz You will receive some warnings during compilation - i have fixed them - but it's not tested (now i have a cable connection). Anyway - if you want my patches mail me. Krzynio From terry@camelot.tdce.com.au Fri Dec 14 07:07:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from camelot.tdce.com.au (camelot.tdce.com.au [203.18.0.3]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B49414126 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 07:07:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (terry@localhost) by camelot.tdce.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fBEERL812631; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 00:27:21 +1000 Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 00:27:20 +1000 (EST) From: Terence To: Tony Langdon Cc: "'bruce@cs.usyd.edu.au'" , wireless@samba.org Subject: RE: Channel usage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > GSM uses TDMA (not SS at all), I think CDMA uses DSSS. google found some good refs: http://www.sss-mag.com/ss.html http://cas.et.tudelft.nl/~glas/ssc/techn/techniques.html http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/wireless/dsss.html --- Terence C. 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Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Not sure how I arrived at this one, but I did: http://www.pantscam.com/ A rather unusual application of portable/wireless technology - a girl with a PC/104 board, PCMCIA wireless card, and a webcam stuck down her pants... (!) I didn't see much more than darkness, but you may have better luck. Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe - Melbourne, Australia www.camrecord.com www.camdiscover.com www.heyasl.com www.sensationbot.com From tjco104@cse.unsw.edu.au Fri Dec 14 07:11:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from seedbox.2y.net (c36339.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au [203.164.151.160]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3CCA52FC for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 07:11:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from cse.unsw.edu.au (unknown [192.168.0.1]) by seedbox.2y.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EBAB44896; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 01:24:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3C1A166E.6080700@cse.unsw.edu.au> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 02:10:38 +1100 From: Tim User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Krzysztof Koziarek , wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: More driver problems References: <3C199CF7.8040201@earthling.net> <20011214190429.B20531@svana.org> <3C19B6CB.3060700@earthling.net> <20011214192612.A20600@svana.org> <3C19CA9D.80706@cse.unsw.edu.au> <20011214210057.B20680@svana.org> <3C1A0DBA.4090109@earthling.net> <3C1A1087.8030606@info.pruszkow.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I have tried this file (downloaded from teletronics.com site), and could not get it to compile with 2.2.18 at all. I used the wl24 drivers & makefile with pcmcia 3.1.30 in order to get it to compile (successfully) but now I cant modprobe :/ If anyone has any floppy distributions or anything of the like (ie kernel/driver combos preferably with some os that WORKS) I'd love a copy. Ive spent far too long (upwards of 4 solid days) trying to get this to work in any form. I dont have a pci bridge as Im trying to get it going on a 486 laptop. Krzysztof Koziarek wrote: > C0V3R wrote: > >> Finally managed to get my drivers to compile... but now I cant >> modprobe them: >> >> Warning: /lib/modules/2.2.18/pcmcia/wl24_cs.o symbol for parameter >> RTSThreshold not found >> /lib/modules/2.2.18/pcmcia/wl24_cs.o: init_module: Device or resource >> busy >> Hint: insmod errors cn be caused by incorrect module paramters, >> including invalid IO or IRQ parameters >> /lib/modules/2.2.18/pcmcia/wl24_cs.o: insmod >> /lib/modules/2.2.18/pcmcia/wl24_cs.o failed >> /lib/modules/2.2.18/pcmcia/wl24_cs.o: insmod wl24_cs failed >> >> Ideas/pointers? >> >> >> Tim >> >> =--------------------------------------------------------------------= >> | public Code programmer(Assignment spec) throws TantrumException {} | >> | If KFC was open-source, I could get my hands on the Colonel. | >> | We all live in a yellow subroutine. | >> =--------------------------------------------------------------------= > > > Hard try. > > Try to set IRQ for ISA in BIOS (if you're owner of pci->pcmcia bridge). > > WL24 support for linux is very 'problematic'. I have huge problems with > WL24 card - kernel oops, hangs etc. > > You may want to try: > > http://src.teras.net.id/wi-lan/pcmcia-wl24-r2-3.1.14.tgz > > You will receive some warnings during compilation - i have fixed them - > but it's not tested (now i have a cable connection). > Anyway - if you want my patches mail me. > > Krzynio > > -- -- Tim =--------------------------------------------------------------------= | public Code programmer(Assignment spec) throws TantrumException {} | | If KFC was open-source, I could get my hands on the Colonel. | | We all live in a yellow subroutine. | =--------------------------------------------------------------------= From osi@fotap.org Fri Dec 14 10:34:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from meatloaf.fotap.org (dsl-64-34-207-61.telocity.com [64.34.207.61]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B01C4434 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:34:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from osi by meatloaf.fotap.org with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16Ey4s-0000gZ-00 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 14:33:02 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 14:33:02 -0500 From: kiss the sun and walk on air To: wirless Subject: Re: Re : wvlan_cs/orinoco_cs & linksys wap11 AP Message-ID: <20011214143302.A2599@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011213143358.A409@bougret.hpl.hp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 02:33:58PM -0800, Jean Tourrilhes wrote: > > I have an Intersil PRISM2 card built into my laptop (toshiba tecra > > 8200), and it works fine with either the wvlan_cs or the orinoco_cs > > drivers. I am currently using pcmcia-cs v3.1.29, which has orinoco_cs > > v0.06a / orinoco 0.08a. I also observed the same problems using the ker= nel =3D > > 2.4.16 > > PCMCIA support which has orinoco_cs v0.08a. >=20 > Have you tried the various trick I advised you in the Pcmcia > forums ? > http://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=3D1438088 >=20 > Please report on those tricks, otherwise we are not going to > make any progress... This morning I powered up, logged in as root and did a cardctl scheme work to change the ESSID, and the AP was again 44:44:44:44:44:44 I then did=20 iwpriv eth0 card_reset and no change. I also tried iwpriv eth0 force_reset and same. I cycled the power on the AP and iwconfig eth0 showed the AP. ifup eth0 and I was good to go. -pete --=20 (peter.royal|osi)@pobox.com - http://pobox.com/~osi jabber/ osi@fotap.org - icq/ 153025 - aim/ osifx - yahoo/ osi_fx your brain on life - http://fotap.org - incubating --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8GlPuhxNyr2g6PGURAmOeAKDcXuQm7v8U05xW+OpMjm1WLqhVuQCbBxYZ rWI+BgWbnM8/XTx8GqzK/V8= =4ke4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9-- From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Fri Dec 14 11:17:46 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B16F53E9 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 11:17:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id LAA13052 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 11:16:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id LAA21713 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 11:16:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16ExoT-0000Ky-00 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 11:16:05 -0800 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 11:16:05 -0800 To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: RE : wvlan_cs/orinoco_cs & linksys wap11 AP Message-ID: <20011214111605.A1288@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: kiss the sun and walk on air wrote : > This morning I powered up, logged in as root and did a > cardctl scheme work > to change the ESSID, and the AP was again 44:44:44:44:44:44 > > I then did=20 > iwpriv eth0 card_reset > > and no change. I also tried > iwpriv eth0 force_reset > > and same. > > I cycled the power on the AP and iwconfig eth0 showed the AP. ifup > eth0 and I was good to go. > -pete Your AP is junk. You should not be able to crash your AP remotely. Check if you can upgrade the firmware on the AP. Jean From niels@cwi.nl Fri Dec 14 11:41:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from hera.cwi.nl (hera.cwi.nl [192.16.191.8]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB5444B8 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 11:41:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mast.ins.cwi.nl (mast.ins.cwi.nl [192.16.196.17]) by hera.cwi.nl with ESMTP id UAA15197 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 20:40:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from lier.ins.cwi.nl (lier.ins.cwi.nl [192.16.196.140]) by mast.ins.cwi.nl (8.11.2/8.9.3/FLW-3.11M) with ESMTP id fBEJeSa22212 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 20:40:28 +0100 Received: (from niels@localhost) by lier.ins.cwi.nl (8.11.6/8.9.3/FLW-3.2C) id fBEJeSI23270 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 20:40:28 +0100 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 20:40:28 +0100 From: Niels Nes To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: 3Com AirConnect version 2.0 Message-ID: <20011214204028.C20446@lier.ins.cwi.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I tried getting the 3Com to work with the orinoco (v0.08a) driver, but failed. Seems most fields of the iwconfig output look okay, except a Link Quality:0 and a Sensitivity:0/3. I tried the card on 2.4.9 and 2.4.16 . Is there allready support for 3Com 3CRWE73796B in this driver? Niels, -- LINUX FAQ: file:/ufs/niels/linuxfaq.html Niels Nes, Centre for Mathematics and Computer Science (CWI) Kruislaan 413, 1098 SJ Amsterdam, The Netherlands room C0.11, phone ++31 20 592-4098, fax ++31 20 592-4312 url: http://www.cwi.nl/~niels e-mail: niels@cwi.nl From osi@fotap.org Fri Dec 14 12:29:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from meatloaf.fotap.org (dsl-64-34-207-61.telocity.com [64.34.207.61]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C650540E for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 12:29:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from osi by meatloaf.fotap.org with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16EzsS-00017n-00 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 16:28:20 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 16:28:20 -0500 From: kiss the sun and walk on air To: wirless Subject: Re: RE : wvlan_cs/orinoco_cs & linksys wap11 AP Message-ID: <20011214162820.G2599@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vSsTm1kUtxIHoa7M" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011214111605.A1288@bougret.hpl.hp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --vSsTm1kUtxIHoa7M Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 11:16:05AM -0800, Jean Tourrilhes wrote: > kiss the sun and walk on air wrote : > > This morning I powered up, logged in as root and did a > > cardctl scheme work > > to change the ESSID, and the AP was again 44:44:44:44:44:44 > >=20 > > I then did=3D20 > > iwpriv eth0 card_reset > >=20 > > and no change. I also tried > > iwpriv eth0 force_reset > >=20 > > and same. > >=20 > > I cycled the power on the AP and iwconfig eth0 showed the AP. ifup > > eth0 and I was good to go. >=20 > Your AP is junk. You should not be able to crash your AP > remotely. Check if you can upgrade the firmware on the AP. I can, its a Linksys WAP11 running the latest firmware. I'll start a dialogue with them. Is there any type of raw debugging output I can give them or do you think my description of the problems should be sufficient? I guess this is why it was only $134 USD :) -pete --=20 (peter.royal|osi)@pobox.com - http://pobox.com/~osi jabber/ osi@fotap.org - icq/ 153025 - aim/ osifx - yahoo/ osi_fx your brain on life - http://fotap.org - incubating --vSsTm1kUtxIHoa7M Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8Gm70hxNyr2g6PGURAi9mAJsGkJP4L4Gy6RsHlv0nTCF9JQX/KwCg5UeZ PrDS4Zs50POLJYr05R7EzlU= =u8QD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vSsTm1kUtxIHoa7M-- From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Fri Dec 14 13:32:19 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E974576 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 13:32:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id NAA22230 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 13:30:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id NAA20953 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 13:30:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16Ezus-0000Nw-00 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 13:30:50 -0800 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 13:30:50 -0800 To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: 3Com AirConnect version 2.0 Message-ID: <20011214133050.A1458@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Niels Nes wrote : > > I tried getting the 3Com to work with the orinoco (v0.08a) driver, > but failed. Seems most fields of the iwconfig output look okay, > except a Link Quality:0 and a Sensitivity:0/3. I tried the card on > 2.4.9 and 2.4.16 . Is there allready support for 3Com 3CRWE73796B > in this driver? > > Niels, I have a 3CRWE73796B with firmware 2.20, and it works for me. There is just two tricks to know : o David has somewhat broken my encryption workaround, you need to set up your wep key in all four slots to make it work (don't ask). o IBSS with Orinoco doen't work (but work with another Symbol card), but if you set the card in demo mode, it will talk to an IBSS Orinoco (again, don't ask). And yeah, sensitivity is 0. Big deal. If you want debugging, you'd better send more info than just "it doesn't work". Jean From jcollins@asgardsrealm.net Sun Dec 16 07:15:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from asgardsrealm.net (24-148-71-77.na.21stcentury.net [24.148.71.77]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 51B96417C for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 07:15:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 21436 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2001 15:15:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.10.105?) (192.168.10.105) by 0 with SMTP; 16 Dec 2001 15:15:29 -0000 Subject: Small PCs (was Wireless Access Points) From: "Jamin W. Collins" To: wireless@lists.samba.org In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20011213164905.00b29230@arthem.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20011213164905.00b29230@arthem.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 16 Dec 2001 09:07:20 -0600 Message-Id: <1008515240.22171.10.camel@thor.asgardsrealm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, 2001-12-13 at 17:08, JonesMB wrote: > I wonder if there is a market for PCs that have the same approx. dimensions > as a VCR or DVD player and fit in a home entertainment center or TV > stand. if such a PC existed, you could have one of those in your hall and > the AP nearby. There are numerous companies making small PC. I provided the link to one such PC earlier (it had integrated modem and 10/100 ethernet). ePC-II (by far the smallest I've seen) http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/epsmalpc.html And there are numerous companies making small cases such as: http://www.geodatasys.com/fxd01.htm Jamin W. Collins From jw@icp.net.au Sun Dec 16 14:37:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from icp-gate.icp.net.au (unknown [202.139.152.15]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E17B4267 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 14:37:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by ICP-GATE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:36:00 +1100 Message-ID: <516B1564A06AD511871F0002B3487D26040073@ICP-GATE> From: John Wan To: "'wireless@lists.samba.org'" Subject: RE: wireless digest, Vol 1 #416 - 1 msg Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:36:00 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: We supply a unit for a large project which is designed to fit into the rear of a NEC plasma screen. This unit has everything on board with builtin DVD rom, 10/100 Base-T NIC, 802.11b wireless compact flash card and even a 10/100 fibre connection option. This unit runs at 700Mhz Pentium III. 16:9 ratio HD-TV video output, TV-out with S-video and composite (PAL/NTSC) output,DVI output,DVD/MPeg2 decoding. 64Mb video, 848x480, 852x480,1280x768, 1366 x 768 res plasma screen output. On board sound line out, surround sound SPDIF 802.11b 7 WiFi compatible. The size of the unit is 425x200x61mm. the most intresting part is the built-in compact flash wireless adapter. With Regards John Wan ICP Global Pty Ltd Industrial Computer Products Suite 507 Eastgardens Office Tower 152 Bunnerong Road Pagewood (Eastgardens), NSW 2035 Sydney, Australia Tel (Int + 61) 2 9314 2092 Fax (Int +61) 2 9344 9537 http://www.icp.net.au -----Original Message----- From: wireless-request@lists.samba.org [mailto:wireless-request@lists.samba.org] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 7:02 AM To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: wireless digest, Vol 1 #416 - 1 msg Send wireless mailing list submissions to wireless@lists.samba.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.samba.org/listinfo/wireless or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wireless-request@lists.samba.org You can reach the person managing the list at wireless-admin@lists.samba.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of wireless digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Small PCs (was Wireless Access Points) (Jamin W. Collins) --__--__-- Message: 1 Subject: Small PCs (was Wireless Access Points) From: "Jamin W. Collins" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Date: 16 Dec 2001 09:07:20 -0600 On Thu, 2001-12-13 at 17:08, JonesMB wrote: > I wonder if there is a market for PCs that have the same approx. dimensions > as a VCR or DVD player and fit in a home entertainment center or TV > stand. if such a PC existed, you could have one of those in your hall and > the AP nearby. There are numerous companies making small PC. I provided the link to one such PC earlier (it had integrated modem and 10/100 ethernet). ePC-II (by far the smallest I've seen) http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/epsmalpc.html And there are numerous companies making small cases such as: http://www.geodatasys.com/fxd01.htm Jamin W. Collins --__--__-- _______________________________________________ wireless mailing list wireless@lists.samba.org http://lists.samba.org/listinfo/wireless End of wireless Digest From z2275116@student.unsw.edu.au Sun Dec 16 18:15:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from seedbox.2y.net (c36339.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au [203.164.151.160]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA02340C6 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 18:15:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from student.unsw.edu.au (unknown [192.168.0.1]) by seedbox.2y.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D1A44896 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:28:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3C1D5502.3020202@student.unsw.edu.au> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:14:26 +1100 From: Tim Reply-To: c0v3r@earthling.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: More driver problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Could you send it my way? Unstable is better than nothing, and I might be able to make some improvements too. Send whatever to my email address, it can take around 10mb at a time. Thanks! :) Krzysztof Koziarek wrote: > Tim wrote: > >> I have tried this file (downloaded from teletronics.com site), and >> could not get it to compile with 2.2.18 at all. I used the wl24 >> drivers & makefile with pcmcia 3.1.30 in order to get it to compile >> (successfully) but now I cant modprobe :/ >> >> If anyone has any floppy distributions or anything of the like (ie >> kernel/driver combos preferably with some os that WORKS) I'd love a >> copy. Ive spent far too long (upwards of 4 solid days) trying to get >> this to work in any form. >> >> I dont have a pci bridge as Im trying to get it going on a 486 laptop. > > > I have a working system with wl24 - I've made few routers running > Slackware with kernel 2.2.19 and pcmcia_cs 3.1.25. > > One of them is working now: > > # lsmod > Module Size Used by > ip_masq_quake 1584 0 (unused) > ip_masq_raudio 3200 0 (unused) > ip_masq_irc 2208 0 (unused) > ip_masq_ftp 3824 0 > wl24_cs 19776 5 > ds 6416 2 [wl24_cs] > i82365 22512 2 > pcmcia_core 50816 0 [wl24_cs ds i82365] > 3c509 6032 1 > ppp_deflate 40032 0 (unused) > ppp 21328 0 [ppp_deflate] > slip 7808 0 (unused) > slhc 4512 0 [ppp slip] > lp 5904 0 (unused) > parport_pc 7536 1 > parport 7392 1 [lp parport_pc] > > But it's not stable. I'm using patched drivers for 2.0.x kernel. It's > extremely unstable - but it works. In my spare time I'll try to install > that Teletronics (WebWorld) drivers an let you know if it's successfull. > > root@ruter:~# uptime > 12:34am up 1 day, 21:34, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.06, 0.06 > > As you can see - uptime is not so good as i want it to be ;) > > > regards, > -- -- Tim =--------------------------------------------------------------------= | public Code programmer(Assignment spec) throws TantrumException {} | | If KFC was open-source, I could get my hands on the Colonel. | | We all live in a yellow subroutine. | =--------------------------------------------------------------------= From jcollins@asgardsrealm.net Sun Dec 16 19:27:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from asgardsrealm.net (24-148-71-77.na.21stcentury.net [24.148.71.77]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 997014610 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 19:27:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 29028 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2001 03:27:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.10.114?) (192.168.10.114) by 0 with SMTP; 17 Dec 2001 03:27:41 -0000 Subject: RE: wireless digest, Vol 1 #416 - 1 msg From: "Jamin W. Collins" To: "'wireless@lists.samba.org'" In-Reply-To: <516B1564A06AD511871F0002B3487D26040073@ICP-GATE> References: <516B1564A06AD511871F0002B3487D26040073@ICP-GATE> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 16 Dec 2001 21:25:40 -0600 Message-Id: <1008559540.1520.4.camel@jamin-mini> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, 2001-12-16 at 16:36, John Wan wrote: > We supply a unit for a large project which is designed to fit into the rear > of a NEC plasma screen. This unit has everything on board with builtin DVD > rom, 10/100 Base-T NIC, 802.11b wireless compact flash card and even a > 10/100 fibre connection option. Any chance of a link to this little beauty? Jamin W. Collins -- "Life is the art of drawing without an eraser." - John Gardner From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Mon Dec 17 17:01:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1BCB4B95 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 17:01:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id RAA18140; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 17:00:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id RAA26691; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 17:00:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16G8cD-000116-00; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 17:00:17 -0800 Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 17:00:17 -0800 To: David Gibson Cc: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: Minor improvement of orinoco driver Message-ID: <20011217170017.B3864@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com References: <20011213135342.A363@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <20011214020453.D18103@zax> <20011213172138.B520@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <20011215135238.D18952@zax> <20011217141848.D3442@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <20011217225652.GI837@zax> <20011217155419.B3699@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <20011218004414.GT837@zax> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011218004414.GT837@zax>; from hermes@gibson.dropbear.id.au on Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 11:44:14AM +1100 Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 11:44:14AM +1100, David Gibson wrote: > > > What I like about the current setup is the constant cost. If I > > double the number of ioctl, the code stays exactly the same. It also > > mean that people can just yank a new wireless.h in their kernel and > > expect it to work. > > Except that the source of every driver needs to change to expand the > standard handler table. With structures using the gcc structure > initialization extension (as used all over the kernel) only a > recompile is needed. Not true. The old driver would work fine even not recompiled. I was very careful about that. > It's a nop in the .o, but both breaking the union and pulling the > various items out (rather than having them as separate parameters) > makes the source uglier. Just do : ---------------------------------------------------------------- static int orinoco_ioctl_getwap(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_request_info *info, struct sockaddr *arq, char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; arq->sa_family = ARPHRD_ETHER; return orinoco_hw_get_bssid(priv, arq->sa_data); } [...] static const iw_handler orinoco_handler[] = { [...] (iw_handler) orinoco_ioctl_getwap, /* SIOCGIWAP */ ---------------------------------------------------------------- Satisfied ? > > Also : not all driver check/set all the fields of the > > structure. For example, the old Wavelan doesn't use key index and key > > flags, whereas the Orinoco does. By expanding things too much in the > > kernel you would make those drivers that use only a few things pay a > > price. > > I don't see that it's a price of any significance. ioctl() is not > critical path. Bloat. Especially static bloat that is there even for people who don't use it. > > The only issue is if people put the iw_handler in the wrong > > slot. Your proposal would detect it. But people would realise that > > pretty quicly (I try to set the encryption, and the frequency changes > > - how bizzare !). > > Or it SEGVs or oopses because it tries to copy_from_user() when > actually passed an iw_param. Nope. The copy_to/from_user is only between user space and the kernel wrapper. The driver doesn't see the pointer anymore, so doesn't get a chance to mess with it. > > And best, you can mix/matches the two approaches, which gives > > you maximum flexibility. If you look, this is what I have done for the > > force_reset and card_reset which share the same iw_handler (of course, > > you won't like it). I think it's a cool feature of the API, and I want > > to keep it. > > Nifty, but not a decisive advantage IMO> Well, it sure depend on your hardware. For example, I added the "commit" stuff. For some hardware, it's totally useless. For some other, like the Orinoco, it makes a *big* difference. Jean From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Mon Dec 17 17:13:20 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0BF44105 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 17:13:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id RAA18764; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 17:11:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id RAA27539; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 17:11:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16G8nF-00011P-00; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 17:11:41 -0800 Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 17:11:41 -0800 To: David Gibson Cc: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: More on newapi Message-ID: <20011217171141.C3864@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com References: <20011217233252.GQ837@zax> <20011217160559.D3699@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <20011218005650.GU837@zax> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011218005650.GU837@zax>; from david@gibson.dropbear.id.au on Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 11:56:50AM +1100 Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 11:56:50AM +1100, David Gibson wrote: > > > > It was at the front of my mind all along. That was one reason > > of factoring all the copy_{to,from}_user() in a single place in the > > kernel and removing them for the driver, so that when come the need > > you can fix it once and for good. > > The new API doesn't fix it, but make it much easier to fix it > > (and yes, also for private ioctl). > > It's still very difficult: the translation layer has to determine that > the fd is associated with a device supporting wireless extensions, > then parse the iw_handler tables to determine the type. I don't expect miracle. I didn't say the problem was solved, I just said that it was a step in the right direction. First, the structure "iw_ioctl_description" is now available in the kernel, which *at least* give you a clue of what's happening (and it's an array, so you don't need to parse too much). We can add other information as needed in this structure for the job. Before, we just had nothing at all. Second, the actual copy is done in a single place. So, we could also directly add special translation code in the ioctl_standard_call() function that work in combination with the generic translation layer to do the proper job. In other words, the translation layer doesn't need to be fully transparent and can put hooks in here. Hopefully, when it will be the case we will have moved to another user space API than ioctl (but that's still on my todo list). Have fun... Jean From teodarren@yahoo.com Tue Dec 18 06:44:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from smtp018.mail.yahoo.com (smtp018.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.115]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D8A514E18 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 06:44:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mcns190.docsis249.singa.pore.net (HELO bummer) (202.156.249.190) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Dec 2001 14:42:57 -0000 From: "darren" To: "'Samba/Wavelan mailing list'" Subject: How to start writting a packet sniffer in Linux? Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 22:45:30 +0800 Message-ID: <004d01c187d2$a547e9c0$0101a8c0@bummer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <20011217171141.C3864@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all I am a newbie trying to write a Packet Sniffer for WLAN based on either the Cisco Card or the Linksys WPC11. I hope that I can also get to know the OS better through this process. How should I start? Where can I get information on the way Net Packets are being handled by Linux, and in particular, available APIs for me to base my development on. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanx Darren _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From kleptog@svana.org Tue Dec 18 14:29:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 122C14BF4 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:28:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16GSgo-0003rc-00; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:26:22 +1100 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:26:22 +1100 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: darren Cc: 'Samba/Wavelan mailing list' Subject: Re: How to start writting a packet sniffer in Linux? Message-ID: <20011219092622.A14835@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout References: <20011217171141.C3864@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <004d01c187d2$a547e9c0$0101a8c0@bummer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <004d01c187d2$a547e9c0$0101a8c0@bummer>; from teodarren@yahoo.com on Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 10:45:30PM +0800 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 10:45:30PM +0800, darren wrote: > Hi all > > I am a newbie trying to write a Packet Sniffer for WLAN based on either > the Cisco Card or the Linksys WPC11. I hope that I can also get to know > the OS better through this process. Don't want to sound discouraging, but there are already dozens of packet sniffers for linux, some of which are far better than any one person could write. What's wrong with all of them? > Where can I get information on the way Net Packets are being handled by > Linux, and in particular, available APIs for me to base my development > on. Look up the documentation for the kernel net stuff although maybe getting the source to tcpdump or ethereal would be more helpful. HTH, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Terrorists can only take my life. Only my government can take my freedom. From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Tue Dec 18 15:16:02 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B02D4433 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:16:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id PAA27461; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:14:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id PAA12013; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:14:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16GTRB-0003am-00; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:14:17 -0800 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:14:17 -0800 To: David Gibson Cc: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: Orinoco EIO & SMP fix Message-ID: <20011218151417.A13791@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com References: <20011217142412.F3442@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <20011217231731.GM837@zax> <20011217155655.C3699@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <20011218013037.GY837@zax> <20011217182042.A4075@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <20011218023608.GB837@zax> <20011217184905.C4075@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <20011218031257.GE837@zax> <20011217192253.B4195@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <20011218042651.GJ837@zax> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011218042651.GJ837@zax>; from hermes@gibson.dropbear.id.au on Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 03:26:51PM +1100 Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Dec 18, 2001 at 03:26:51PM +1100, David Gibson wrote: > > > Anyway, if we didn't get the event, there is trouble > > somewhere. I did extensive testing last week on my SMP box and I've > > never seen a single valid case where we needed a fake event (extensive > > as cross UDP streams). > > Ok, that's good to know. Did you test old firmware versions - maybe > the problem only showed up on the really early cards. I had to fix the cor_reset, and then everything work fine with firmware 1.16. I never see a NULL event. My belief is that Andreas, when writing the initial driver, got seriously confused with the ALLOC event and never seeing any TX event and made this crude workaround. > I've just pushed a new version which reorganises the IRQ handler in a > way which should fix the problem, although I've done it a little > differently from your patch: I only do a netif_wake_queue() on ALLOC > events, not on TX or TXEXC, on the basis that we don't get them now, > and if we add the bits to get them later we should still get the ALLOC > events. Yes, I like the way you have done it. vvery sensible. > In fact as I mentioned before it's not clear that the buffer > is safe for re-use between the TX and ALLOC anyway, so we should wait > for the ALLOC. That's the reverse, the ALLOC event arrives before the TX event (see my log). > At the moment I seem to be getting a Tx timeout as > soon as the driver loads, but then it resets and works. I'm not sure > what the problem here is. Probably the COR reset. It was optional for a reason. Ok, I did a patch that fix all the remaining problems with the driver and also fix a few little details based on my latest experiments. Please see attached. I've been doing a bit of testing, and it seems solid. Nice throughput on my SMP box (netperf reliably says 5Mb/s), and resist cross UDP stress test. Wow, I'm glad we are putting this nasty bug behind us, with all the other cleanups, I feel that the next release should be real solid. The only thing left is checking the RSSI formula. Have fun... Jean --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ori.8c.irq_rate.diff" diff -u -p -r linux/drivers/net/wireless-8c/orinoco.c linux/drivers/net/wireless/orinoco.c --- linux/drivers/net/wireless-8c/orinoco.c Tue Dec 18 11:43:07 2001 +++ linux/drivers/net/wireless/orinoco.c Tue Dec 18 14:54:34 2001 @@ -215,9 +215,11 @@ * o Some new PCI IDs for PLX cards. * o Removed broken attempt to do ALLMULTI reception. Just use * promiscuous mode instead - * o Preliminary work for list-AP + * o Preliminary work for list-AP (Jean II) * o Airport updates from (BenH) * o Eliminated racy hw_ready stuff + * o Fix Tx done + fake event in interrupt handler (Jean II + David) + * o Fix set/get rate (Jean II) * * TODO - Jean II * o inline functions (lots of candidate, need to reorder code) @@ -291,7 +293,7 @@ #define SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV SIOCDEVPRIVATE #endif /* SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV */ -static char version[] __initdata = "orinoco.c 0.08b (David Gibson and others)"; +static char version[] __initdata = "orinoco.c 0.08c (David Gibson and others)"; MODULE_AUTHOR("David Gibson "); MODULE_DESCRIPTION("Driver for Lucent Orinoco, Prism II based and similar wireless cards"); MODULE_LICENSE("Dual MPL/GPL"); @@ -319,7 +321,8 @@ MODULE_PARM(orinoco_debug, "i"); #define SMALL_KEY_SIZE 5 #define MAX_FRAME_SIZE 2304 -#define DUMMY_FID 0xFFFF +#define DUMMY_FID 0xDEAD +/* Don't use 0x0000 or 0xFFFF, that usually means hardware removed */ const long channel_frequency[] = { 2412, 2417, 2422, 2427, 2432, 2437, 2442, @@ -1101,8 +1104,14 @@ void orinoco_interrupt(int irq, void * d evstat = hermes_read_regn(hw, EVSTAT); events = evstat & hw->inten; - if (! events) /* Sometimes the card generates Tx interrupts without setting EVSTAT */ + /* Sometimes the card generates interrupts without setting EVSTAT. + * This mostly happens after we process many Rx packet on the same + * irq, but in rare case it may be a Tx event. - Jean II */ + if ((! events) && (netif_queue_stopped(dev))) { + DEBUG(1, "%s: orinoco_interrupt : NULL event !!!\n", + priv->ndev.name); __orinoco_ev_alloc(priv, hw); + } if (jiffies != last_irq_jiffy) loops_this_jiffy = 0; @@ -1125,6 +1134,9 @@ much! Shutting down.\n", break; } + DEBUG(4, "__orinoco_interrupt(): count=%d EVSTAT=0x%04x inten=0x%04x\n", + count, evstat, hw->inten); + if (events & HERMES_EV_TICK) __orinoco_ev_tick(priv, hw); if (events & HERMES_EV_WTERR) @@ -1401,34 +1413,54 @@ static void __orinoco_ev_txexc(struct or { struct net_device *dev = &priv->ndev; struct net_device_stats *stats = &priv->stats; +#if 0 u16 fid = hermes_read_regn(hw, TXCOMPLFID); +#endif +#if 0 + /* The FID will *always* be the "wrong" FID because the firmware + * remap the allocated FID to its own Tx FID list - Jean II */ if (fid != priv->txfid) { - printk(KERN_ERR "%s: Tx exception on unexpected fid (%04X)\n", + printk(KERN_DEBUG "%s: Tx exception on unexpected fid (%04X)\n", dev->name, fid); return; } +#endif printk(KERN_WARNING "%s: Tx error!\n", dev->name); stats->tx_errors++; + /* We don't wake up the Tx queue because we already did it long ago + * when we received the alloc event. + * Also, decrease tx_packet to compensate increase in ev_alloc... + * Jean II */ + stats->tx_packets--; + hermes_write_regn(hw, TXCOMPLFID, DUMMY_FID); } static void __orinoco_ev_tx(struct orinoco_private *priv, hermes_t *hw) { - struct net_device_stats *stats = &priv->stats; +#if 0 u16 fid = hermes_read_regn(hw, TXCOMPLFID); +#endif DEBUG(3, "%s: Transmit completed\n", priv->ndev.name); + /* Note : in normal operation, we don't enable this event + * to minimise the number of irqs generated, and we process + * the whole Tx Done stuff in __orinoco_ev_alloc(), so don't put + * any code in here - Jean II */ + +#if 0 + /* The FID will *always* be the "wrong" FID because the firmware + * remap the allocated FID to its own Tx FID list - Jean II */ if (fid != priv->txfid) { - printk(KERN_ERR "%s: Tx completion on unexpected fid (%04X)\n", + printk(KERN_DEBUG "%s: Tx completion on unexpected fid (%04X)\n", priv->ndev.name, fid); return; } - - stats->tx_packets++; +#endif hermes_write_regn(hw, TXCOMPLFID, DUMMY_FID); } @@ -1436,18 +1468,31 @@ static void __orinoco_ev_tx(struct orino static void __orinoco_ev_alloc(struct orinoco_private *priv, hermes_t *hw) { struct net_device *dev = &priv->ndev; + struct net_device_stats *stats = &priv->stats; u16 fid = hermes_read_regn(hw, ALLOCFID); DEBUG(3, "%s: Allocation complete FID=0x%04x\n", priv->ndev.name, fid); - /* For some reason we don't seem to get transmit completed events properly */ + /* In orinoco_interrupt() we will call this function when we have + * a NULL event. But, the alloc command may not have completed, and + * this test check that. + * In fact, 90% of the time it's not completed, so don't make + * too much noise about it... - Jean II */ if (fid != priv->txfid) { - printk(KERN_WARNING "%s: Allocate event on unexpected fid (%04X)\n", + DEBUG(1, "%s: Allocate event on unexpected fid (%04X)\n", dev->name, fid); return; } + /* Note : this event will always get called prior to a + * successful or unsuccessful Tx request, because we always + * ask the card to reclaim the buffer - Jean II */ + + stats->tx_packets++; + netif_wake_queue(dev); + /* The firmware doesn't clear the FID register, so we do it ourselves + * otherwise the test above is meaningless - Jean II */ hermes_write_regn(hw, ALLOCFID, DUMMY_FID); } @@ -1889,6 +1934,11 @@ orinoco_xmit(struct sk_buff *skb, struct memcpy(hdr.p80211.addr2, eh->h_source, ETH_ALEN); hdr.p80211.frame_ctl = IEEE802_11_FTYPE_DATA; + /* Enable TX_EX event to properly detect transmit errors. + * Do *NOT* enable TX_OK to minimise number of interrupts in + * normal case - Jean II */ + hdr.desc.tx_control = HERMES_TXCTRL_TX_EX; + /* Encapsulate Ethernet-II frames */ if (ntohs(eh->h_proto) > 1500) { /* Ethernet-II frame */ data_len = len; @@ -2533,9 +2583,16 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_setrate(struct int bitrate; /* 100s of kilobits */ int i; - bitrate = rrq->value / 100000; - if (rrq->value % 100000) - return -EINVAL; + /* As the user space doesn't know our highest rate, it uses + * -1 to ask us to set the highest rate. + * Test it using "iwconfig ethX rate auto" - Jean II */ + if(rrq->value == -1) + bitrate = 110; + else { + bitrate = rrq->value / 100000; + if (rrq->value % 100000) + return -EINVAL; + } if ( (bitrate != 10) && (bitrate != 20) && (bitrate != 55) && (bitrate != 110) ) @@ -2574,8 +2631,15 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_getrate(struct if ( (ratemode < 0) || (ratemode > BITRATE_TABLE_SIZE) ) BUG(); + /* The firmware will tell us the current rate, but won't tell + * us if it's automatic or not, so we need to remember what we + * set - Jean II */ + rrq->fixed = ! bitrate_table[ratemode].automatic; + rrq->value = bitrate_table[ratemode].bitrate * 100000; + rrq->disabled = 0; + if (netif_running(dev)) { - /* If the device is actually operation we try to find more, + /* If the device is actually in operation we try to find more, about the current mode */ err = hermes_read_wordrec(hw, USER_BAP, HERMES_RID_CURRENTTXRATE, &val); @@ -2584,14 +2648,15 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_getrate(struct switch (priv->firmware_type) { case FIRMWARE_TYPE_AGERE: /* Lucent style rate */ - for (i = 0; i < BITRATE_TABLE_SIZE; i++) - if (bitrate_table[i].agere_txratectrl == val) { - ratemode = i; - break; - } - if (i >= BITRATE_TABLE_SIZE) - printk(KERN_INFO "%s: Unable to determine current bitrate (0x%04hx)\n", - dev->name, val); + /* Note : in Lucent firmware, the return value of + * HERMES_RID_CURRENTTXRATE is the bitrate in Mb/s, + * and therefore is totally different from the + * encoding of HERMES_RID_CNFTXRATECONTROL. + * Don't forget that 6Mb/s is really 5.5Mb/s */ + if(val == 6) + rrq->value = 5500000; + else + rrq->value = val * 1000000; break; case FIRMWARE_TYPE_INTERSIL: /* Intersil style rate */ case FIRMWARE_TYPE_SYMBOL: /* Symbol style rate */ @@ -2603,15 +2668,12 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_getrate(struct if (i >= BITRATE_TABLE_SIZE) printk(KERN_INFO "%s: Unable to determine current bitrate (0x%04hx)\n", dev->name, val); + rrq->value = bitrate_table[ratemode].bitrate * 100000; break; default: BUG(); } } - - rrq->value = bitrate_table[ratemode].bitrate * 100000; - rrq->fixed = ! bitrate_table[ratemode].automatic; - rrq->disabled = 0; out: orinoco_unlock(priv); diff -u -p -r linux/drivers/net/wireless-8c/orinoco_cs.c linux/drivers/net/wireless/orinoco_cs.c --- linux/drivers/net/wireless-8c/orinoco_cs.c Tue Dec 18 11:43:08 2001 +++ linux/drivers/net/wireless/orinoco_cs.c Tue Dec 18 14:50:54 2001 @@ -588,8 +588,10 @@ orinoco_cs_config(dev_link_t * link) ndev->irq = link->irq.AssignedIRQ; /* Now do a PCMCIA soft reset on the card, to make sure its in - a sane state */ - orinoco_cs_cor_reset(priv); + a sane state. */ + /* Optional because it really mess up old Lucent firmwares - Jean II */ + if(reset_cor) + orinoco_cs_cor_reset(priv); /* register_netdev will give us an ethX name */ ndev->name[0] = '\0'; --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY-- From roger.larsson@norran.net Tue Dec 18 15:38:07 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailf.telia.com (mailf.telia.com [194.22.194.25]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED9645DE for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:38:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (h164n1fls31o925.telia.com [213.65.254.164]) by mailf.telia.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fBINaN308759 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 00:36:23 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200112182336.fBINaN308759@mailf.telia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Roger Larsson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Lost my working Windows 98 when adding another computer... Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 00:34:01 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, A strange problem occurred the other day. I have had a 802.11b PrismII wireless lan working for quite some time. But, about a week ago I installed another Laptop (my neighbors) At first we did not get the new one to work. But after a card switch - both worked with the GW in Windows! Router/Firewall/Gateway, now running Linux 2.4.17rc1 has a GigaFast Wireless Engine 720-AEX HWaddr 00:90:47:00:05:60 Cell: 02:23:58:C5:05:60 port3: 0 ibssport: 0 preamble: Not supported (in Linux) My main computer has a PheeNet (WL-0011) HWaddr 00:02:72:00:0F:13 Cell: 02:23:58:C5:05:60 port3: 0 ibssport: 0 preamble: Not supported (in Linux) All has the same SSID, same hex key entered on first key. The PheeNet works when running Linux. But when using Windows Me it indicates great signal, Associated-02:23:BC:C0:01:13 (middle varies, other examples: 02:23:64:C4:05:60 02:23:7D:9B:05:60) Throughput on Rx: 396-868 The only thing I have done to end up with a non working system is the switch of cards - no config changes... /RogerL -- Roger Larsson Skellefteå Sweden From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Tue Dec 18 16:57:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15DAA451C for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:57:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id QAA03528 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:55:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id QAA20564 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:55:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16GV0y-0003dd-00 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:55:20 -0800 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:55:20 -0800 To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re : Lost my working Windows 98 when adding another Message-ID: <20011218165520.A13980@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Roger Larsson wrote : > The only thing I have done to end up with a non working system is > the switch of cards - no config changes... Do the two cards have the same firmware revision ? Under Windows, usually, you need to match the driver version and firmware version. Yes, the Linux driver works with all firmware rev, but don't get used to that too much... Also, make sure that your ad-hoc mode matches (IBSS vs demo). Jean From roger.larsson@norran.net Tue Dec 18 22:36:40 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from maila.telia.com (maila.telia.com [194.22.194.231]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ADB84851 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 22:34:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (h164n1fls31o925.telia.com [213.65.254.164]) by maila.telia.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fBJ6V6v06508; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 07:31:06 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200112190631.fBJ6V6v06508@maila.telia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Roger Larsson To: jt@hpl.hp.com, Jean Tourrilhes , Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: Re : Lost my working Windows 98 when adding another Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 07:28:44 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <20011218165520.A13980@bougret.hpl.hp.com> In-Reply-To: <20011218165520.A13980@bougret.hpl.hp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wednesdayen den 19 December 2001 01.55, Jean Tourrilhes wrote: > Roger Larsson wrote : > > The only thing I have done to end up with a non working system is > > the switch of cards - no config changes... > > Do the two cards have the same firmware revision ? Under > Windows, usually, you need to match the driver version and firmware > version. > Yes, the Linux driver works with all firmware rev, but don't > get used to that too much... > From the PheeNet: About to write key 0, keylen=5 About to write key 1, keylen=0 About to write key 2, keylen=0 About to write key 3, keylen=0 About to write key 0, keylen=5 About to write key 1, keylen=0 About to write key 2, keylen=0 About to write key 3, keylen=0 hermes.c: 3 Oct 2001 David Gibson orinoco.c 0.08a (David Gibson and othe rs) orinoco_cs.c 0.08a (David Gibson and o thers) eth0: Station identity 001f:0003:0000:0008 eth0: Looks like an Intersil firmware version 0.08 eth0: Ad-hoc demo mode supported. eth0: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported. eth0: WEP supported, "128"-bit key. eth0: MAC address 00:02:72:00:0F:13 eth0: Station name "Prism I" eth0: ready eth0: index 0x01: Vcc 3.3, irq 11, io 0x0100-0x013f About to write key 0, keylen=5 About to write key 1, keylen=0 About to write key 2, keylen=0 About to write key 3, keylen=0 eth0: Error -110 setting multicast list. eth0: Error -110 setting multicast list. eth0: Error -110 setting multicast list. And the GigaFast: Dec 4 22:43:47 dox kernel: hermes.c: 3 Oct 2001 David Gibson Dec 4 22:43:47 dox kernel: orinoco.c 0.08a (David Gibson and others) Dec 4 22:43:47 dox kernel: orinoco_cs.c 0.08a (David Gibson and others) Dec 4 22:43:47 dox kernel: eth1: Station identity 001f:0003:0000:0008 Dec 4 22:43:47 dox kernel: eth1: Looks like an Intersil firmware version 0.08 Dec 4 22:43:47 dox kernel: eth1: Ad-hoc demo mode supported. Dec 4 22:43:47 dox kernel: eth1: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported. Dec 4 22:43:47 dox kernel: eth1: WEP supported, "128"-bit key. Dec 4 22:43:47 dox kernel: eth1: MAC address 00:90:47:00:05:60 Dec 4 22:43:47 dox kernel: eth1: Station name "Prism I" Dec 4 22:43:47 dox kernel: eth1: ready Dec 4 22:43:47 dox kernel: eth1: index 0x01: Vcc 3.3, irq 5, io 0x0100-0x013f Dec 4 22:43:47 dox kernel: About to write key 0, keylen=5 Dec 4 22:43:47 dox kernel: About to write key 1, keylen=0 Dec 4 22:43:47 dox kernel: About to write key 2, keylen=0 Dec 4 22:43:47 dox kernel: About to write key 3, keylen=0 Dec 4 22:43:47 dox kernel: eth1: Error -110 setting multicast list. Dec 4 22:43:47 dox last message repeated 2 times > Also, make sure that your ad-hoc mode matches (IBSS vs > demo). > I have tried at least... My understanding is that newer Linux and Window drivers both use IBSS mode as default - correct? /RogerL -- Roger Larsson Skellefteå Sweden From binzhou@site.uottawa.ca Tue Dec 18 22:42:17 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.site.uottawa.ca (mailn.site.uottawa.ca [137.122.89.142]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B9F42A5 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 22:42:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from site0.site.uottawa.ca (binzhou@site0.site.uottawa.ca [137.122.95.225]) by mail.site.uottawa.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA96490; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 01:40:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 01:40:26 -0500 (EST) From: Bin Zhou To: wireless@lists.samba.org Cc: hermes@gibson.dropbear.id.au Subject: How to install orinoco with linux kernel 2.4.9 ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, All I cannot find the instruction on howto install orinoco with linux kernel 2.4.9. I need the help from you. Thank you. Bin Zhou From mikeoldfield@gmx.net Tue Dec 18 23:05:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2EBAF44C2 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 23:05:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 2730 invoked by uid 0); 19 Dec 2001 07:03:43 -0000 Received: from pd9e7c83d.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (HELO gmx.net) (217.231.200.61) by mail.gmx.net (mp001-rz3) with SMTP; 19 Dec 2001 07:03:43 -0000 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 08:01:16 +0200 From: mikeoldfield@gmx.net To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Compaq WL100 X-Mailer: POST/LX 3.1a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20011219070529.2EBAF44C2@lists.samba.org> Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi list I'm considering to buy two Compaq WL100 cards for use in two Linux machines, one as AP (linux-wlan in AP mode or Jouni's HostAP driver) and one in Station Mode. Are there any known problems with this card? Also: If I have enabled IP forwarding and IP masquerading already in my linux PC, which will be th AP, do I still need bridging to access the Internet with the Laptop (station)? Or do I have to use ad-hoc mode to avoid the bridging hassles? thanks a lot daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact From alex@server.mycity.it Wed Dec 19 04:48:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from server.mycity.it (unknown [195.36.12.70]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7194169 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 04:48:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mycity.it (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA01548; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:15:13 +0100 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:15:13 +0100 Message-Id: <200112191315.OAA01548@server.mycity.it> From: "Alessandro" To: mikeoldfield@gmx.net Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Importance: Normal X-Mailer: VisualMail 3.0 ( http://www.minter.com.ar/visualmail ) Subject: Re: Compaq WL100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wednesday, December 19, 2001 at 12:01:16 PM, mikeoldfield@gmx.net wrote: > Hi list > > I'm considering to buy two Compaq WL100 cards for use in two Linux > machines, one as AP (linux-wlan in AP mode or Jouni's HostAP driver) > and one in Station Mode. > > Are there any known problems with this card? > > Also: If I have enabled IP forwarding and IP masquerading already in my > linux PC, which will be th AP, do I still need bridging to access the > Internet with the Laptop (station)? Or do I have to use ad-hoc mode to > avoid the bridging hassles? > > thanks a lot > daniel >0 Hello Daniel, You can use any Prism2 WLAN card that can support AP f/w (please check your internal PDA) but the problem is that you work with RF devices. We have tested some Wireless system that you can buy on the Wireless World Market but the problem is every the same; when you use more of one WLAN interface in the same BOX or in proximity you obtain interference or intermodulation. We have solved the problem with a TX power limitation directly on WLAN card + we use a Converter/Amplifier 2.4GHz with 2Mw INPUT and 100mW OUTPUT. In this way you can start on the same Box more WLAN interface with any problems. Other problem is the driver. The last linux-wlan-ng driver don't support AP mode and HOST-AP driver made in Jouni if used with multiple interface need a modification in ToDS section. This is all..... I forget that we used for our WLAN system MODO PCI embedded board :)) Best Regards Alessandro -- Do you VisualMail? Grab a copy of the best WebMailer right now! http://www.mintersoft.com/visualmail From jcollins@asgardsrealm.net Wed Dec 19 05:03:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from asgardsrealm.net (24-148-71-228.na.21stcentury.net [24.148.71.228]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ACAD042FB for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 05:03:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 4575 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2001 13:03:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.10.105?) (192.168.10.105) by 0 with SMTP; 19 Dec 2001 13:03:42 -0000 Subject: Re: How to install orinoco with linux kernel 2.4.9 ? From: "Jamin W. Collins" To: wireless@lists.samba.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 19 Dec 2001 06:55:28 -0600 Message-Id: <1008766528.12141.19.camel@thor.asgardsrealm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, 2001-12-19 at 00:40, Bin Zhou wrote: > I cannot find the instruction on howto install orinoco with linux kernel > 2.4.9. I need the help from you. Thank you. Any chance you could be more specific? What part of the installation are you having problems with? Are you not able to get the kernel modules to compile? Are you not sure of how to configure your pcmcia setting for the orinoco? Asking for "help" without providing a clue as to what part of the "install" process your having problems is extremely vague. If your not sure what you need help with try visiting the following page: http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Orinoco.html Jamin W. Collins From binzhou@site.uottawa.ca Wed Dec 19 07:25:26 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.site.uottawa.ca (mailn.site.uottawa.ca [137.122.89.142]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF504457 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 07:25:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from grdaa.site.uottawa.ca (binzhou@grdaa.site.uottawa.ca [137.122.91.34]) by mail.site.uottawa.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA09638; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:23:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:23:07 -0500 (EST) From: Bin Zhou To: "Jamin W. Collins" Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: How to install orinoco with linux kernel 2.4.9 ? In-Reply-To: <1008766528.12141.19.camel@thor.asgardsrealm.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, Jamin and all others, Thank you for instruction. It's really vague in the question. My objective is to install the orinoco wireless card with the orinoco_cs drive which is in the source files of the kernel 2.4.9. It's attractive because I may need to do further work on it. Current conditions: 1. I use the kernel linux-2.4.9. 2. I use Orinoc gold card, PCMCIA in the PCI adapter. My problem is I cannot find the howto to instruct me to do the following. 1. I cannot find the pci adapter in /proc/pci, 2. There is no PCMCIA module if lsmod. 3. I don't know whether I need to download PCMCIA package or not, which version PCMCIA should be used with orinoco v006f. 4. How to install orinoco_cs. Thanks again. Bin Zhou On 19 Dec 2001, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > On Wed, 2001-12-19 at 00:40, Bin Zhou wrote: > > I cannot find the instruction on howto install orinoco with linux kernel > > 2.4.9. I need the help from you. Thank you. > > Any chance you could be more specific? What part of the installation > are you having problems with? Are you not able to get the kernel > modules to compile? Are you not sure of how to configure your pcmcia > setting for the orinoco? Asking for "help" without providing a clue as > to what part of the "install" process your having problems is extremely > vague. If your not sure what you need help with try visiting the > following page: > > http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Orinoco.html > > Jamin W. Collins > > > From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Wed Dec 19 10:39:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E33F42F7 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:39:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id KAA25755; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:37:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id KAA13192; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:37:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16GlbL-0003ml-00; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:37:59 -0800 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:37:59 -0800 To: Roger Larsson Cc: jt@hpl.hp.com, Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: Re : Lost my working Windows 98 when adding another Message-ID: <20011219103759.A14546@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com References: <20011218165520.A13980@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <200112190631.fBJ6V6v06508@maila.telia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200112190631.fBJ6V6v06508@maila.telia.com>; from roger.larsson@norran.net on Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 07:28:44AM +0100 Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 07:28:44AM +0100, Roger Larsson wrote: > > I have tried at least... > My understanding is that newer Linux and Window drivers both use IBSS mode > as default - correct? Linux, yes. Windows, it depends on the driver... > /RogerL Jean From falbinali@yahoo.com Wed Dec 19 11:43:39 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from web11604.mail.yahoo.com (web11604.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.56]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DBB5A51A1 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 11:39:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011219193803.42083.qmail@web11604.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.196.112.204] by web11604.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 11:38:03 PST Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 11:38:03 -0800 (PST) From: Subject: Forced Handoff To: wireless@lists.samba.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I need your help. I have 2 access points and a Laptop with orinoco_cs driver. The card binds to the access point with the strongest S/N, is it possible to force a handoff (maybe reseting the card with a different script). Please if anyone has an idea on how to accomplish that, let me know. Regards, falbinali __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com From rake_arora@yahoo.com Wed Dec 19 11:58:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from web14703.mail.yahoo.com (web14703.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.120]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B66254194 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 11:58:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011219195629.62372.qmail@web14703.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.105.236.145] by web14703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 11:56:29 PST Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 11:56:29 -0800 (PST) From: Rakesh Arora Subject: Newbie having problems with orinoco To: wireless@lists.samba.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I am a Linux newbie, so please forgive me for any dumb questions. I am having problems getting the Orinoco Silver card to work with Linux 2.4.12. I am using the PCI Adapter that comes with Orinoco Silver. I have heard some people had problems while some got it to work perfectly. I am using the inbuilt kernel PCMCIA modules. The steps that I have done are: 1. Add hermes.conf to /etc/pcmcia 2. make xconfig (added PCMCIA support) 3. make dep, make bzImage, make modules, make modules_install, make install. 4. made changes to /etc/pcmcia/config, /etc/pcmcia/config.opts, /etc/sysconfig/pcmcia etc. 5. rebooted my computer. The card was detected but only one beep was heard. cardctl status/ident gave me the details of the card. When I do iwconfig etho, I get the details and then segmentation fault. After a couple of minutes, the light on the card goes off (but cardctl still gives info). From /var/log/messages, I found that IRQ 9 was being shared. How do I get around this? I am attaching a snipped of the log messages. I haven't played with Linux before, so I might be doing something really stupid. Any help that you can provide will be appreciated. Thanks, rakesh ------------------------------------------------------- Dec 18 10:51:49 localhost kernel: PCI: Using configuration type 1 Dec 18 10:51:49 localhost kernel: PCI: Probing PCI hardware Dec 18 10:51:49 localhost kernel: Unknown bridge resource 0: assuming transparent Dec 18 10:51:49 localhost kernel: PCI: Using IRQ router PIIX [8086/7110] at 00:07.0 Dec 18 10:51:49 localhost kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 9 for device 00:10.0 Dec 18 10:51:49 localhost kernel: PCI: Sharing IRQ 9 with 00:07.2 Dec 18 10:51:49 localhost kernel: PCI: Sharing IRQ 9 with 00:0c.0 Dec 18 10:51:49 localhost kernel: Limiting direct PCI/PCI transfers. Dec 18 10:51:49 localhost kernel: isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards... Dec 18 10:51:49 localhost kernel: isapnp: No Plug & Play device found ......... Dec 18 10:58:36 localhost kernel: NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 Dec 18 10:58:36 localhost kernel: IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP Dec 18 10:58:36 localhost kernel: IP: routing cache hash table of 1024 buckets, 8Kbytes Dec 18 10:58:36 localhost cardmgr[497]: socket 0: Intersil PRISM2 11 Mbps Wireless Adapter Dec 18 10:58:36 localhost kernel: TCP: Hash tables configured (established 8192 bind 8192) Dec 18 10:58:36 localhost kernel: NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0. Dec 18 10:58:36 localhost kernel: VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. Dec 18 10:58:36 localhost kernel: Freeing unused kernel memory: 232k freed Dec 18 10:58:36 localhost kernel: Adding Swap: 136512k swap-space (priority -1) Dec 18 10:58:36 localhost kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean. Dec 18 10:58:36 localhost kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x378-0x37f 0x4d0-0x4d7 Dec 18 10:58:36 localhost kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean. Dec 18 10:58:36 localhost kernel: cs: memory probe 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff: clean. Dec 18 10:58:36 localhost cardmgr[497]: executing: 'modprobe hermes' Dec 18 10:58:36 localhost cardmgr[497]: + modprobe: Can't locate module hermes Dec 18 10:58:36 localhost cardmgr[497]: modprobe exited with status 255 Dec 18 10:58:36 localhost cardmgr[497]: module /lib/modules/2.4.12/pcmcia/hermes.o not available Dec 18 10:58:36 localhost cardmgr[497]: executing: 'modprobe orinoco' Dec 18 10:58:36 localhost cardmgr[497]: + modprobe: Can't locate module orinoco Dec 18 10:58:36 localhost cardmgr[497]: modprobe exited with status 255 Dec 18 10:58:36 localhost cardmgr[497]: module /lib/modules/2.4.12/pcmcia/orinoco.o not available Dec 18 10:58:24 localhost rc.sysinit: Mounting proc filesystem: succeeded Dec 18 10:58:37 localhost cardmgr[497]: executing: './network start eth0' __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! 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Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com From rake_arora@yahoo.com Wed Dec 19 12:09:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from web14708.mail.yahoo.com (web14708.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.125]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 041D15094 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 12:09:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011219200753.48021.qmail@web14708.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.105.236.145] by web14708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 12:07:53 PST Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 12:07:53 -0800 (PST) From: Rakesh Arora Subject: continuation to prev email (newbie) To: wireless@lists.samba.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, As per the log file snippet in the prev email, modprobe wasn't able to load the module hermes/orinoco as there was no file other than dummy.o in /lib/modules/2.4.12/pcmcia/. So I copied the files hermes.o, orinoco.o and orinoco_cs.o from 2.4.2. Now it gives the incompatible version error. Will switching Versioning off in the config file help me? Else how do I get the compatible .o files? I am attaching the snippet illustrating this error. Thanks in advance, rakesh ----------------------------------------------------- Dec 18 14:41:17 localhost kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean. Dec 18 14:41:17 localhost kernel: cs: memory probe 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff: clean. Dec 18 14:41:17 localhost cardmgr[497]: executing: 'modprobe hermes' Dec 18 14:41:17 localhost cardmgr[497]: + /lib/modules/2.4.12/kernel/drivers/net/hermes.o: couldn't find the kernel version the module was compiled for Dec 18 14:41:17 localhost cardmgr[497]: + /lib/modules/2.4.12/kernel/drivers/net/hermes.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.12/kernel/drivers/net/hermes.o failed Dec 18 14:41:17 localhost cardmgr[497]: + /lib/modules/2.4.12/pcmcia/hermes.o: couldn't find the kernel version the module was compiled for Dec 18 14:41:17 localhost cardmgr[497]: + /lib/modules/2.4.12/pcmcia/hermes.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.12/pcmcia/hermes.o failed Dec 18 14:41:17 localhost cardmgr[497]: + /lib/modules/2.4.12/pcmcia/hermes.o: insmod hermes failed Dec 18 14:41:17 localhost cardmgr[497]: modprobe exited with status 255 Dec 18 14:41:17 localhost cardmgr[497]: executing: 'insmod /lib/modules/2.4.12/pcmcia/hermes.o' Dec 18 14:41:17 localhost cardmgr[497]: + /lib/modules/2.4.12/pcmcia/hermes.o: couldn't find the kernel version the module was compiled for Dec 18 14:41:17 localhost cardmgr[497]: insmod exited with status 1 Dec 18 14:41:17 localhost cardmgr[497]: executing: 'modprobe orinoco' Dec 18 14:41:17 localhost cardmgr[497]: + /lib/modules/2.4.12/kernel/drivers/net/hermes.o: couldn't find the kernel version the module was compiled for Dec 18 14:41:17 localhost cardmgr[497]: + /lib/modules/2.4.12/kernel/drivers/net/hermes.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.12/kernel/drivers/net/hermes.o failed Dec 18 14:41:05 localhost rc.sysinit: Mounting proc filesystem: succeeded Dec 18 14:41:18 localhost cardmgr[497]: + /lib/modules/2.4.12/kernel/drivers/net/hermes.o: couldn't find the kernel version the module was compiled for Dec 18 14:41:05 localhost sysctl: net.ipv4.ip_forward = 0 Dec 18 14:41:18 localhost cardmgr[497]: + /lib/modules/2.4.12/kernel/drivers/net/hermes.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.12/kernel/drivers/net/hermes.o failed Dec 18 14:41:05 localhost sysctl: net.ipv4.conf.all.rp_filter = 1 Dec 18 14:41:18 localhost cardmgr[497]: + /lib/modules/2.4.12/kernel/drivers/net/hermes.o: insmod orinoco failed Dec 18 14:41:05 localhost rc.sysinit: Configuring kernel parameters: succeeded Dec 18 14:41:18 localhost cardmgr[497]: modprobe exited with status 255 Dec 18 14:41:05 localhost date: Tue Dec 18 14:40:59 PST 2001 Dec 18 14:41:18 localhost cardmgr[497]: executing: 'insmod /lib/modules/2.4.12/pcmcia/orinoco.o' Dec 18 14:41:05 localhost rc.sysinit: Setting clock (localtime): Tue Dec 18 14:40:59 PST 2001 succeeded Dec 18 14:41:18 localhost cardmgr[497]: + /lib/modules/2.4.12/pcmcia/orinoco.o: couldn't find the kernel version the module was compiled for Dec 18 14:41:05 localhost rc.sysinit: Loading default keymap succeeded Dec 18 14:41:18 localhost cardmgr[497]: insmod exited with status 1 Dec 18 14:41:05 localhost rc.sysinit: Setting default font (lat0-sun16): succeeded Dec 18 14:41:18 localhost cardmgr[497]: executing: './network start eth0' Dec 18 14:41:05 localhost rc.sysinit: Activating swap partitions: succeeded Dec 18 14:41:05 localhost rc.sysinit: Setting hostname localhost.localdomain: succeeded Dec 18 14:41:05 localhost fsck: /: clean, 173474/577152 files, 802045/1152655 blocks Dec 18 14:41:05 localhost rc.sysinit: Checking root filesystem succeeded Dec 18 14:41:05 localhost rc.sysinit: Remounting root filesystem in read-write mode: succeeded Dec 18 14:41:05 localhost depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.12/kernel/drivers/net/hermes.o Dec 18 14:41:05 localhost depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.12/kernel/drivers/net/orinoco.o Dec 18 14:41:05 localhost depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.12/kernel/drivers/net/orinoco_cs.o Dec 18 14:41:05 localhost depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.12/pcmcia/hermes.o Dec 18 14:41:05 localhost rc.sysinit: Finding module dependencies: succeeded Dec 18 14:41:05 localhost depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.12/pcmcia/orinoco.o Dec 18 14:41:05 localhost depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.12/pcmcia/orinoco_cs.o Dec 18 14:41:05 localhost fsck: /boot: clean, 33/14056 files, 10811/56227 blocks __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com From roger.larsson@norran.net Wed Dec 19 12:58:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from maild.telia.com (maild.telia.com [194.22.190.101]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27BAA410D for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 12:58:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (h164n1fls31o925.telia.com [213.65.254.164]) by maild.telia.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fBJKtMj27190; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 21:55:22 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200112192055.fBJKtMj27190@maild.telia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Roger Larsson To: jt@hpl.hp.com, Jean Tourrilhes Subject: Re: Re : Lost my working Windows 98 when adding another Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 21:52:59 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Cc: jt@hpl.hp.com, Samba/Wavelan mailing list References: <20011218165520.A13980@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <200112190631.fBJ6V6v06508@maila.telia.com> <20011219103759.A14546@bougret.hpl.hp.com> In-Reply-To: <20011219103759.A14546@bougret.hpl.hp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wednesdayen den 19 December 2001 19.37, Jean Tourrilhes wrote: > On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 07:28:44AM +0100, Roger Larsson wrote: > > I have tried at least... > > My understanding is that newer Linux and Window drivers both use IBSS > > mode as default - correct? > > Linux, yes. Windows, it depends on the driver... > > > /RogerL > > Jean Ok, I have been testing a little in Windows (reinstalled drivers...) The driver config has a "802.11 AdHoc" mode (and AdHoc, infrastructure) SSID is correct TxRate is Fully automatic PS (power save) in Disabled Channel is correct (2) WEP 64 bit, manually entered HEX With the Prism test utility I found out that the mode toggles between: "Host IBSS" and "Basic Service Set" (BSS) (the tool has an IBSS mode too...) In Host IBSS mode I got associated. After configuring Network (IP, DNS, Gateway) I got connection!!! But I lost it soon thereafter... An idea: - Can there be several "Host IBSS" in a net? If not, I really would like the Gateway/Router/Firewall to be that and not one of the clients... /RogerL -- Roger Larsson Skellefteå Sweden From roger.larsson@norran.net Wed Dec 19 13:05:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from maild.telia.com (maild.telia.com [194.22.190.101]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42ABF410D for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:05:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (h164n1fls31o925.telia.com [213.65.254.164]) by maild.telia.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fBJL2uj07030; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 22:02:56 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200112192102.fBJL2uj07030@maild.telia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Roger Larsson To: Rakesh Arora , wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: continuation to prev email (newbie) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 22:00:34 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <20011219200753.48021.qmail@web14708.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20011219200753.48021.qmail@web14708.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wednesdayen den 19 December 2001 21.07, Rakesh Arora wrote: > Hi, > As per the log file snippet in the prev email, > modprobe wasn't able to load the module hermes/orinoco > as there was no file other than dummy.o in > /lib/modules/2.4.12/pcmcia/. So I copied the files > hermes.o, orinoco.o and orinoco_cs.o from 2.4.2. Now > it gives the incompatible version error. Will > switching Versioning off in the config file help me? > Else how do I get the compatible .o files? I am > attaching the snippet illustrating this error. > Have you verified that /lib/modules/2.4.12/kernel/drivers/net/hermes.o does exist? Mine is located in: /lib/modules/2.4.12/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/hermes.o Are you sure that the same configuration and compiler was used for the kernel and for the module? "So I copied the files hermes.o, orinoco.o and orinoco_cs.o from 2.4.2" obviously not - this is a NO NO, recompile the kernel please... (It detects and tries to load the module but fails to load it) /RogerL -- Roger Larsson Skellefteå Sweden From rake_arora@yahoo.com Wed Dec 19 14:03:11 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from web14703.mail.yahoo.com (web14703.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.120]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A50DC41AB for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:03:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011219220127.89629.qmail@web14703.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.105.237.130] by web14703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:01:27 PST Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:01:27 -0800 (PST) From: Rakesh Arora Subject: Re: continuation to prev email (newbie) To: wireless@lists.samba.org In-Reply-To: <200112192102.fBJL2uj07030@maild.telia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Have you verified that > /lib/modules/2.4.12/kernel/drivers/net/hermes.o > does exist? The net dir just had the dummy.o file, so I copied the other 3 files. And I copied them from /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/wireless. Sorry not from 2.4.2 as I mentioned earlier. > Mine is located in: > > /lib/modules/2.4.12/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/hermes.o The wireless dir underneath net doesn't exist. Do I need to create one? > Are you sure that the same configuration and > compiler > was used for the kernel and for the module? Yeah I did. > "So I copied the files hermes.o, orinoco.o and > orinoco_cs.o from 2.4.2" As I pointed earlier, this is not correct. Sorry. Thanks, rakesh __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Wed Dec 19 14:18:34 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DAC54B86 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:18:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id OAA11374; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:16:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id OAA02687; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:16:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16Gp16-0003pr-00; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:16:48 -0800 Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:16:48 -0800 To: Roger Larsson Cc: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: Re : Lost my working Windows 98 when adding another Message-ID: <20011219141648.C14667@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com References: <20011218165520.A13980@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <200112190631.fBJ6V6v06508@maila.telia.com> <20011219103759.A14546@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <200112192055.fBJKtMj27190@maild.telia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200112192055.fBJKtMj27190@maild.telia.com>; from roger.larsson@norran.net on Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 09:52:59PM +0100 Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 09:52:59PM +0100, Roger Larsson wrote: > > Ok, I have been testing a little in Windows (reinstalled drivers...) > > The driver config has a "802.11 AdHoc" mode (and AdHoc, infrastructure) > SSID is correct > TxRate is Fully automatic > PS (power save) in Disabled > Channel is correct (2) > > WEP 64 bit, manually entered HEX > > With the Prism test utility I found out that the mode toggles between: > "Host IBSS" and "Basic Service Set" (BSS) > (the tool has an IBSS mode too...) > In Host IBSS mode I got associated. > After configuring Network (IP, DNS, Gateway) I got connection!!! > But I lost it soon thereafter... It works, but it's flaky. That's exactly my experience with Intersil firmwares ;-) Either you upgrade all the firmware, or you use the good old demo mode (port3). > An idea: > - Can there be several "Host IBSS" in a net? If not, I really would like > the Gateway/Router/Firewall to be that and not one of the clients... In ad-hoc, every node is equal. > /RogerL Jean From leecy@dnrc.bell-labs.com Wed Dec 19 14:46:33 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from crufty.research.bell-labs.com (crufty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.49]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EB3B1418F for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:46:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from bronx.dnrc.bell-labs.com ([135.180.160.8]) by crufty; Wed Dec 19 17:39:53 EST 2001 Received: from rimavpc1.dnrc.bell-labs.com (rimavpc1 [135.180.240.113]) by bronx.dnrc.bell-labs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA12938; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:44:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:44:37 -0500 (EST) From: "LEE, Yui-wah (Clement)" Reply-To: Clement Yui-Wah Lee To: Cc: Subject: Re: Forced Handoff In-Reply-To: <20011219193803.42083.qmail@web11604.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Are the two APs configured with different ESSIDs? If so, you can use the command # iwconfig essid to force the station to associate with one particular AP and off from the other. -- Clement On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 falbinali@yahoo.com wrote: > Hi, > > I need your help. I have 2 access points and a > Laptop with orinoco_cs driver. The card binds to the > access point with the strongest S/N, is it possible to > force a handoff (maybe reseting the card with a > different script). Please if anyone has an idea on how > to accomplish that, let me know. > > Regards, > > falbinali > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of > your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com > or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com > From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Tue Dec 18 16:49:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F1C4359 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:49:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id QAA03039; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:47:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id QAA20024; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:47:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16GUtN-0003dI-00; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:47:29 -0800 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:47:29 -0800 To: David Gibson , Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: New driver API for 0.8c Message-ID: <20011218164729.A13959@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi, I'm following up on my merge. I did again the patch for the new driver API on orinoco 8c + my fixes. Note that I changed the function definition according to your wishes. Apart from that, the rest is identical. Also, I disagree on some of your naming convention : For example : struct iw_freq *frq, Should really be : struct iw_freq *frequency Because as far as WE is concerned, iw_freq *is* the internal representation of a frequency. Have fun... Jean --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ori.8c.we13-2.diff" diff -u -p -r linux/drivers/net/wireless-8c-fixed/orinoco.c linux/drivers/net/wireless/orinoco.c --- linux/drivers/net/wireless-8c-fixed/orinoco.c Tue Dec 18 14:54:34 2001 +++ linux/drivers/net/wireless/orinoco.c Tue Dec 18 16:29:41 2001 @@ -272,8 +272,11 @@ #include #include #include -#include #include +#include +#if WIRELESS_EXT > 12 +#include +#endif /* WIRELESS_EXT > 12 */ #include #include @@ -288,10 +291,21 @@ #include "orinoco.h" #include "ieee802_11.h" -/* Wireless extensions backwares compatibility */ +#if WIRELESS_EXT <= 12 +/* Wireless extensions backward compatibility */ + +/* Part of iw_handler prototype we need */ +struct iw_request_info +{ + __u16 cmd; /* Wireless Extension command */ + __u16 flags; /* More to come ;-) */ +}; + +/* Private ioctl is migrating to a new range... */ #ifndef SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV #define SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV SIOCDEVPRIVATE #endif /* SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV */ +#endif /* WIRELESS_EXT <= 12 */ static char version[] __initdata = "orinoco.c 0.08c (David Gibson and others)"; MODULE_AUTHOR("David Gibson "); @@ -423,6 +437,8 @@ static void __orinoco_ev_txexc(struct or static void __orinoco_ev_tx(struct orinoco_private *priv, hermes_t *hw); static void __orinoco_ev_alloc(struct orinoco_private *priv, hermes_t *hw); +#if 0 +/* Either we fix those prototypes or we get rid of them - Jean II */ static int orinoco_ioctl_getiwrange(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_point *rrq); static int orinoco_ioctl_setiwencode(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_point *erq); static int orinoco_ioctl_getiwencode(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_point *erq); @@ -442,6 +458,7 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_setpower(struct static int orinoco_ioctl_getpower(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_param *prq); static int orinoco_ioctl_setport3(struct net_device *dev, struct iwreq *wrq); static int orinoco_ioctl_getport3(struct net_device *dev, struct iwreq *wrq); +#endif static void __orinoco_set_multicast_list(struct net_device *dev); /* /proc debugging stuff */ @@ -883,7 +900,9 @@ static int __orinoco_hw_setup_wep(struct return 0; } -static int orinoco_hw_get_bssid(struct orinoco_private *priv, char buf[ETH_ALEN]) +/* This is called only once from orinoco_ioctl_getwap(). */ +static inline int orinoco_hw_get_bssid(struct orinoco_private *priv, + char buf[ETH_ALEN]) { hermes_t *hw = &priv->hw; int err = 0; @@ -898,8 +917,10 @@ static int orinoco_hw_get_bssid(struct o return err; } -static int orinoco_hw_get_essid(struct orinoco_private *priv, int *active, - char buf[IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE+1]) +/* This is called only once from orinoco_ioctl_getessid(). */ +static inline int orinoco_hw_get_essid(struct orinoco_private *priv, + int *active, + char buf[IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE+1]) { hermes_t *hw = &priv->hw; int err = 0; @@ -953,7 +974,8 @@ static int orinoco_hw_get_essid(struct o return err; } -static long orinoco_hw_get_freq(struct orinoco_private *priv) +/* This is called only once from orinoco_ioctl_getfreq(). */ +static inline long orinoco_hw_get_freq(struct orinoco_private *priv) { hermes_t *hw = &priv->hw; @@ -985,8 +1007,10 @@ static long orinoco_hw_get_freq(struct o return err ? err : freq; } -static int orinoco_hw_get_bitratelist(struct orinoco_private *priv, int *numrates, - int32_t *rates, int max) +/* This is called only once from orinoco_ioctl_getiwrange(). */ +static inline int orinoco_hw_get_bitratelist(struct orinoco_private *priv, + int *numrates, + int32_t *rates, int max) { hermes_t *hw = &priv->hw; struct hermes_idstring list; @@ -2049,146 +2073,214 @@ orinoco_tx_timeout(struct net_device *de } } -static int orinoco_ioctl_getiwrange(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_point *rrq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_getname(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) +{ + strcpy(wrqu->name, "IEEE 802.11-DS"); + return 0; +} + +static int orinoco_ioctl_getwap(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + struct sockaddr *ap_addr, + char *extra) +{ + struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; + + ap_addr->sa_family = ARPHRD_ETHER; + return orinoco_hw_get_bssid(priv, ap_addr->sa_data); +} + +static int orinoco_ioctl_setmode(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + __u32 *mode, + char *extra) +{ + struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; + int err = -EINPROGRESS; /* Call commit handler */ + + orinoco_lock(priv); + switch (*mode) { + case IW_MODE_ADHOC: + if (! (priv->has_ibss || priv->has_port3) ) + err = -EINVAL; + else { + priv->iw_mode = IW_MODE_ADHOC; + } + break; + + case IW_MODE_INFRA: + priv->iw_mode = IW_MODE_INFRA; + break; + + default: + err = -EINVAL; + break; + } + set_port_type(priv); + orinoco_unlock(priv); + + return err; +} + +static int orinoco_ioctl_getmode(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + __u32 *mode, + char *extra) +{ + struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; + + /* No real need to lock here */ + orinoco_lock(priv); + *mode = priv->iw_mode; + orinoco_unlock(priv); + return 0; +} + +static int orinoco_ioctl_getiwrange(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + struct iw_point *rrq, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; int err = 0; int mode; - struct iw_range range; + struct iw_range *range = (struct iw_range *) extra; int numrates; int i, k; TRACE_ENTER(dev->name); - err = verify_area(VERIFY_WRITE, rrq->pointer, sizeof(range)); - if (err) - return err; + rrq->length = sizeof(struct iw_range); - rrq->length = sizeof(range); - - orinoco_lock(priv); - mode = priv->iw_mode; - orinoco_unlock(priv); - - memset(&range, 0, sizeof(range)); + memset(range, 0, sizeof(struct iw_range)); /* Much of this shamelessly taken from wvlan_cs.c. No idea * what it all means -dgibson */ #if WIRELESS_EXT > 10 - range.we_version_compiled = WIRELESS_EXT; - range.we_version_source = 11; + range->we_version_compiled = WIRELESS_EXT; + range->we_version_source = 13; #endif /* WIRELESS_EXT > 10 */ - range.min_nwid = range.max_nwid = 0; /* We don't use nwids */ + // Already done in memset, don't redo it + range->min_nwid = range->max_nwid = 0; /* We don't use nwids */ /* Set available channels/frequencies */ - range.num_channels = NUM_CHANNELS; + range->num_channels = NUM_CHANNELS; k = 0; for (i = 0; i < NUM_CHANNELS; i++) { if (priv->channel_mask & (1 << i)) { - range.freq[k].i = i + 1; - range.freq[k].m = channel_frequency[i] * 100000; - range.freq[k].e = 1; + range->freq[k].i = i + 1; + range->freq[k].m = channel_frequency[i] * 100000; + range->freq[k].e = 1; k++; } if (k >= IW_MAX_FREQUENCIES) break; } - range.num_frequency = k; + range->num_frequency = k; + + range->sensitivity = 3; + + orinoco_lock(priv); + /* Group all operation that need locking here - Jean II */ + /* Actually, as we just read a bunch of ints, we don't really + * need any locking (writing an int is atomic) - Jean II */ + mode = priv->iw_mode; + if (priv->has_wep) { + range->max_encoding_tokens = ORINOCO_MAX_KEYS; - range.sensitivity = 3; + range->encoding_size[0] = SMALL_KEY_SIZE; + range->num_encoding_sizes = 1; + + if (priv->has_big_wep) { + range->encoding_size[1] = LARGE_KEY_SIZE; + range->num_encoding_sizes = 2; + } + } else { + // Already done in memset, don't redo it + range->num_encoding_sizes = 0; + range->max_encoding_tokens = 0; + } + orinoco_unlock(priv); if ((mode == IW_MODE_ADHOC) && (priv->spy_number == 0)){ /* Quality stats meaningless in ad-hoc mode */ - range.max_qual.qual = 0; - range.max_qual.level = 0; - range.max_qual.noise = 0; + range->max_qual.qual = 0; + range->max_qual.level = 0; + range->max_qual.noise = 0; + // Already done in memset, don't redo it #if WIRELESS_EXT > 11 - range.avg_qual.qual = 0; - range.avg_qual.level = 0; - range.avg_qual.noise = 0; + range->avg_qual.qual = 0; + range->avg_qual.level = 0; + range->avg_qual.noise = 0; #endif /* WIRELESS_EXT > 11 */ } else { - range.max_qual.qual = 0x8b - 0x2f; - range.max_qual.level = 0x2f - 0x95 - 1; - range.max_qual.noise = 0x2f - 0x95 - 1; + range->max_qual.qual = 0x8b - 0x2f; + range->max_qual.level = 0x2f - 0x95 - 1; + range->max_qual.noise = 0x2f - 0x95 - 1; #if WIRELESS_EXT > 11 /* Need to get better values */ - range.avg_qual.qual = 0x24; - range.avg_qual.level = 0xC2; - range.avg_qual.noise = 0x9E; + range->avg_qual.qual = 0x24; + range->avg_qual.level = 0xC2; + range->avg_qual.noise = 0x9E; #endif /* WIRELESS_EXT > 11 */ } err = orinoco_hw_get_bitratelist(priv, &numrates, - range.bitrate, IW_MAX_BITRATES); + range->bitrate, IW_MAX_BITRATES); if (err) return err; - range.num_bitrates = numrates; + range->num_bitrates = numrates; /* Set an indication of the max TCP throughput in bit/s that we can * expect using this interface. May be use for QoS stuff... * Jean II */ if(numrates > 2) - range.throughput = 5 * 1000 * 1000; /* ~5 Mb/s */ + range->throughput = 5 * 1000 * 1000; /* ~5 Mb/s */ else - range.throughput = 1.5 * 1000 * 1000; /* ~1.5 Mb/s */ - - range.min_rts = 0; - range.max_rts = 2347; - range.min_frag = 256; - range.max_frag = 2346; - - orinoco_lock(priv); - if (priv->has_wep) { - range.max_encoding_tokens = ORINOCO_MAX_KEYS; - - range.encoding_size[0] = SMALL_KEY_SIZE; - range.num_encoding_sizes = 1; + range->throughput = 1.5 * 1000 * 1000; /* ~1.5 Mb/s */ - if (priv->has_big_wep) { - range.encoding_size[1] = LARGE_KEY_SIZE; - range.num_encoding_sizes = 2; - } - } else { - range.num_encoding_sizes = 0; - range.max_encoding_tokens = 0; - } - orinoco_unlock(priv); - - range.min_pmp = 0; - range.max_pmp = 65535000; - range.min_pmt = 0; - range.max_pmt = 65535 * 1000; /* ??? */ - range.pmp_flags = IW_POWER_PERIOD; - range.pmt_flags = IW_POWER_TIMEOUT; - range.pm_capa = IW_POWER_PERIOD | IW_POWER_TIMEOUT | IW_POWER_UNICAST_R; - - range.num_txpower = 1; - range.txpower[0] = 15; /* 15dBm */ - range.txpower_capa = IW_TXPOW_DBM; + range->min_rts = 0; + range->max_rts = 2347; + range->min_frag = 256; + range->max_frag = 2346; + + range->min_pmp = 0; + range->max_pmp = 65535000; + range->min_pmt = 0; + range->max_pmt = 65535 * 1000; /* ??? */ + range->pmp_flags = IW_POWER_PERIOD; + range->pmt_flags = IW_POWER_TIMEOUT; + range->pm_capa = IW_POWER_PERIOD | IW_POWER_TIMEOUT | IW_POWER_UNICAST_R; + + range->num_txpower = 1; + range->txpower[0] = 15; /* 15dBm */ + range->txpower_capa = IW_TXPOW_DBM; #if WIRELESS_EXT > 10 - range.retry_capa = IW_RETRY_LIMIT | IW_RETRY_LIFETIME; - range.retry_flags = IW_RETRY_LIMIT; - range.r_time_flags = IW_RETRY_LIFETIME; - range.min_retry = 0; - range.max_retry = 65535; /* ??? */ - range.min_r_time = 0; - range.max_r_time = 65535 * 1000; /* ??? */ + range->retry_capa = IW_RETRY_LIMIT | IW_RETRY_LIFETIME; + range->retry_flags = IW_RETRY_LIMIT; + range->r_time_flags = IW_RETRY_LIFETIME; + range->min_retry = 0; + range->max_retry = 65535; /* ??? */ + range->min_r_time = 0; + range->max_r_time = 65535 * 1000; /* ??? */ #endif /* WIRELESS_EXT > 10 */ - if (copy_to_user(rrq->pointer, &range, sizeof(range))) - return -EFAULT; - TRACE_EXIT(dev->name); return 0; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_setiwencode(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_point *erq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_setiwencode(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + struct iw_point *erq, + char *keybuf) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; int index = (erq->flags & IW_ENCODE_INDEX) - 1; @@ -2196,28 +2288,20 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_setiwencode(str int enable = priv->wep_on; int restricted = priv->wep_restrict; u16 xlen = 0; - int err = 0; - char keybuf[ORINOCO_MAX_KEY_SIZE]; + int err = -EINPROGRESS; /* Call commit handler */ - if (erq->pointer) { - /* We actually have a key to set */ - if ( (erq->length < SMALL_KEY_SIZE) || (erq->length > ORINOCO_MAX_KEY_SIZE) ) - return -EINVAL; - - if (copy_from_user(keybuf, erq->pointer, erq->length)) - return -EFAULT; + if (! priv->has_wep) { + return -EOPNOTSUPP; } - + orinoco_lock(priv); - if (erq->pointer) { - if (erq->length > ORINOCO_MAX_KEY_SIZE) { - err = -E2BIG; - goto out; - } - + if (erq->length > 0) { + /* Check key size. Either it's small size, or it large (but + * only if the device support large keys) - Jean II */ if ( (erq->length > LARGE_KEY_SIZE) - || ( ! priv->has_big_wep && (erq->length > SMALL_KEY_SIZE)) ) { + || ( ! priv->has_big_wep && + (erq->length > SMALL_KEY_SIZE)) ) { err = -EINVAL; goto out; } @@ -2264,7 +2348,7 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_setiwencode(str if (erq->flags & IW_ENCODE_RESTRICTED) restricted = 1; - if (erq->pointer) { + if (erq->length > 0) { priv->keys[index].len = cpu_to_le16(xlen); memset(priv->keys[index].data, 0, sizeof(priv->keys[index].data)); memcpy(priv->keys[index].data, keybuf, erq->length); @@ -2279,14 +2363,19 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_setiwencode(str return err; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_getiwencode(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_point *erq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_getiwencode(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + struct iw_point *erq, + char *keybuf) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; int index = (erq->flags & IW_ENCODE_INDEX) - 1; u16 xlen = 0; - char keybuf[ORINOCO_MAX_KEY_SIZE]; - + if (! priv->has_wep) { + return -EOPNOTSUPP; + } + orinoco_lock(priv); if ((index < 0) || (index >= ORINOCO_MAX_KEYS)) @@ -2309,54 +2398,50 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_getiwencode(str erq->length = xlen; - if (erq->pointer) { - memcpy(keybuf, priv->keys[index].data, ORINOCO_MAX_KEY_SIZE); - } + memcpy(keybuf, priv->keys[index].data, ORINOCO_MAX_KEY_SIZE); orinoco_unlock(priv); - if (erq->pointer) { - if (copy_to_user(erq->pointer, keybuf, xlen)) - return -EFAULT; - } - return 0; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_setessid(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_point *erq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_setessid(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + struct iw_point *erq, + char *essidbuf) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; - char essidbuf[IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE+1]; /* Note : ESSID is ignored in Ad-Hoc demo mode, but we can set it * anyway... - Jean II */ - memset(&essidbuf, 0, sizeof(essidbuf)); - - if (erq->flags) { - if (erq->length > IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE) - return -E2BIG; + /* Hum... Should not use Wireless Extension constant (may change), + * should use our own... - Jean II */ + if (erq->length > IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE) + return -E2BIG; - if (copy_from_user(&essidbuf, erq->pointer, erq->length)) - return -EFAULT; - - essidbuf[erq->length] = '\0'; - } - orinoco_lock(priv); - memcpy(priv->desired_essid, essidbuf, sizeof(priv->desired_essid)); + /* NULL the string (for NULL termination & ESSID = ANY) - Jean II */ + memset(priv->desired_essid, 0, sizeof(priv->desired_essid)); + + /* If not ANY, get the new ESSID */ + if (erq->flags) { + memcpy(priv->desired_essid, essidbuf, erq->length); + } orinoco_unlock(priv); - return 0; + return -EINPROGRESS; /* Call commit handler */ } -static int orinoco_ioctl_getessid(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_point *erq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_getessid(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + struct iw_point *erq, + char *essidbuf) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; - char essidbuf[IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE+1]; - int active; + int active; /* ??? */ int err = 0; TRACE_ENTER(dev->name); @@ -2367,57 +2452,53 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_getessid(struct erq->flags = 1; erq->length = strlen(essidbuf) + 1; - if (erq->pointer) - if ( copy_to_user(erq->pointer, essidbuf, erq->length) ) - return -EFAULT; TRACE_EXIT(dev->name); return 0; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_setnick(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_point *nrq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_setnick(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + struct iw_point *nrq, + char *nickbuf) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; - char nickbuf[IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE+1]; if (nrq->length > IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE) return -E2BIG; - memset(nickbuf, 0, sizeof(nickbuf)); - - if (copy_from_user(nickbuf, nrq->pointer, nrq->length)) - return -EFAULT; - - nickbuf[nrq->length] = '\0'; - orinoco_lock(priv); - memcpy(priv->nick, nickbuf, sizeof(priv->nick)); + memset(priv->nick, 0, sizeof(priv->nick)); + + memcpy(priv->nick, nickbuf, nrq->length); orinoco_unlock(priv); - return 0; + return -EINPROGRESS; /* Call commit handler */ } -static int orinoco_ioctl_getnick(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_point *nrq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_getnick(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + struct iw_point *nrq, + char *nickbuf) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; - char nickbuf[IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE+1]; orinoco_lock(priv); memcpy(nickbuf, priv->nick, IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE+1); orinoco_unlock(priv); - nrq->length = strlen(nickbuf)+1; - - if (copy_to_user(nrq->pointer, nickbuf, sizeof(nickbuf))) - return -EFAULT; + nrq->length = strlen(nickbuf) + 1; return 0; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_setfreq(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_freq *frq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_setfreq(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + struct iw_freq *frq, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; int chan = -1; @@ -2452,10 +2533,26 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_setfreq(struct priv->channel = chan; orinoco_unlock(priv); + return -EINPROGRESS; /* Call commit handler */ +} + +static int orinoco_ioctl_getfreq(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + struct iw_freq *frq, + char *extra) +{ + struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; + + /* Locking done in there */ + frq->m = orinoco_hw_get_freq(priv); + frq->e = 1; return 0; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_getsens(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_param *srq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_getsens(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + struct iw_param *srq, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; hermes_t *hw = &priv->hw; @@ -2475,7 +2572,10 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_getsens(struct return 0; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_setsens(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_param *srq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_setsens(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + struct iw_param *srq, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; int val = srq->value; @@ -2487,10 +2587,13 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_setsens(struct priv->ap_density = val; orinoco_unlock(priv); - return 0; + return -EINPROGRESS; /* Call commit handler */ } -static int orinoco_ioctl_setrts(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_param *rrq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_setrts(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + struct iw_param *rrq, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; int val = rrq->value; @@ -2505,13 +2608,29 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_setrts(struct n priv->rts_thresh = val; orinoco_unlock(priv); + return -EINPROGRESS; /* Call commit handler */ +} + +static int orinoco_ioctl_getrts(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + struct iw_param *rrq, + char *extra) +{ + struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; + + rrq->value = priv->rts_thresh; + rrq->disabled = (rrq->value == 2347); + rrq->fixed = 1; return 0; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_setfrag(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_param *frq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_setfrag(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + struct iw_param *frq, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; - int err = 0; + int err = -EINPROGRESS; /* Call commit handler */ orinoco_lock(priv); @@ -2528,10 +2647,12 @@ supported on this firmware. Using MWO ro if (frq->disabled) priv->frag_thresh = 2346; else { - if ( (frq->value < 256) || (frq->value > 2346) ) + if ( (frq->value < 256) || + (frq->value > 2346) ) err = -EINVAL; else - priv->frag_thresh = frq->value & ~0x1; /* must be even */ + /* value must be even */ + priv->frag_thresh = frq->value & ~0x1; } } @@ -2540,7 +2661,10 @@ supported on this firmware. Using MWO ro return err; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_getfrag(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_param *frq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_getfrag(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + struct iw_param *frq, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; hermes_t *hw = &priv->hw; @@ -2575,10 +2699,13 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_getfrag(struct return err; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_setrate(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_param *rrq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_setrate(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + struct iw_param *rrq, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; - int err = 0; + int err = -EINPROGRESS; /* Call commit handler */ int ratemode = -1; int bitrate; /* 100s of kilobits */ int i; @@ -2615,7 +2742,10 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_setrate(struct return err; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_getrate(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_param *rrq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_getrate(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + struct iw_param *rrq, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; hermes_t *hw = &priv->hw; @@ -2681,11 +2811,13 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_getrate(struct return err; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_setpower(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_param *prq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_setpower(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + struct iw_param *prq, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; - int err = 0; - + int err = -EINPROGRESS; /* Call commit handler */ orinoco_lock(priv); @@ -2732,7 +2864,10 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_setpower(struct return err; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_getpower(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_param *prq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_getpower(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + struct iw_param *prq, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; hermes_t *hw = &priv->hw; @@ -2778,8 +2913,24 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_getpower(struct return err; } +static int orinoco_ioctl_gettxpower(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + struct iw_param *trq, + char *extra) +{ + /* The card only supports one tx power, so this is easy */ + trq->value = 15; /* dBm */ + trq->fixed = 1; + trq->disabled = 0; + trq->flags = IW_TXPOW_DBM; + return 0; +} + #if WIRELESS_EXT > 10 -static int orinoco_ioctl_getretry(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_param *rrq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_getretry(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + struct iw_param *rrq, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; hermes_t *hw = &priv->hw; @@ -2829,10 +2980,36 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_getretry(struct } #endif /* WIRELESS_EXT > 10 */ -static int orinoco_ioctl_setibssport(struct net_device *dev, struct iwreq *wrq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_reset(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) +{ + struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; + + if (! capable(CAP_NET_ADMIN)) + return -EPERM; + + printk(KERN_DEBUG "%s: Forcing reset!\n", dev->name); + + /* COR reset as needed */ + if((info->cmd == (SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x1)) && + (priv->card_reset_handler != NULL)) + priv->card_reset_handler(priv); + + /* Firmware reset */ + orinoco_reset(priv); + + return 0; +} + +static int orinoco_ioctl_setibssport(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; - int val = *( (int *) wrq->u.name ); + int val = *( (int *) extra ); orinoco_lock(priv); priv->ibss_port = val ; @@ -2841,13 +3018,16 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_setibssport(str set_port_type(priv); orinoco_unlock(priv); - return 0; + return -EINPROGRESS; /* Call commit handler */ } -static int orinoco_ioctl_getibssport(struct net_device *dev, struct iwreq *wrq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_getibssport(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; - int *val = (int *)wrq->u.name; + int *val = (int *) extra; orinoco_lock(priv); *val = priv->ibss_port; @@ -2856,11 +3036,14 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_getibssport(str return 0; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_setport3(struct net_device *dev, struct iwreq *wrq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_setport3(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; - int val = *( (int *) wrq->u.name ); - int err = 0; + int val = *( (int *) extra ); + int err = -EINPROGRESS; /* Call commit handler */ orinoco_lock(priv); switch (val) { @@ -2896,10 +3079,13 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_setport3(struct return err; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_getport3(struct net_device *dev, struct iwreq *wrq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_getport3(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; - int *val = (int *)wrq->u.name; + int *val = (int *) extra; orinoco_lock(priv); *val = priv->prefer_port3; @@ -2908,26 +3094,64 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_getport3(struct return 0; } +static int orinoco_ioctl_setpreamble(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) +{ + struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; + + /* 802.11b has recently defined some short preamble. + * Basically, the Phy header has been reduced in size. + * This increase performance, especially at high rates + * (the preamble is transmitted at 1Mb/s), unfortunately + * this give compatibility troubles... - Jean II */ + if(priv->has_preamble) { + int val = *( (int *) extra ); + + orinoco_lock(priv); + if(val) + priv->preamble = 1; + else + priv->preamble = 0; + orinoco_unlock(priv); + + return -EINPROGRESS; /* Call commit handler */ + } else + return -EOPNOTSUPP; +} + +static int orinoco_ioctl_getpreamble(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + union iwreq_data *wrqu, + char *extra) +{ + struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; + + if(priv->has_preamble) { + int *val = (int *) extra; + + orinoco_lock(priv); + *val = priv->preamble; + orinoco_unlock(priv); + + return 0; + } else + return -EOPNOTSUPP; +} + /* Spy is used for link quality/strength measurements in Ad-Hoc mode * Jean II */ -static int orinoco_ioctl_setspy(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_point *srq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_setspy(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + struct iw_point *srq, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; - struct sockaddr address[IW_MAX_SPY]; + struct sockaddr *address = (struct sockaddr *) extra; int number = srq->length; int i; - int err = 0; - - /* Check the number of addresses */ - if (number > IW_MAX_SPY) - return -E2BIG; - - /* Get the data in the driver */ - if (srq->pointer) { - if (copy_from_user(address, srq->pointer, - sizeof(struct sockaddr) * number)) - return -EFAULT; - } + int err = 0; /* Do NOT call commit handler */ /* Make sure nobody mess with the structure while we do */ orinoco_lock(priv); @@ -2964,55 +3188,174 @@ static int orinoco_ioctl_setspy(struct n return err; } -static int orinoco_ioctl_getspy(struct net_device *dev, struct iw_point *srq) +static int orinoco_ioctl_getspy(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, + struct iw_point *srq, + char *extra) { struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; - struct sockaddr address[IW_MAX_SPY]; - struct iw_quality spy_stat[IW_MAX_SPY]; + struct sockaddr *address = (struct sockaddr *) extra; int number; int i; orinoco_lock(priv); number = priv->spy_number; - if ((number > 0) && (srq->pointer)) { - /* Create address struct */ - for (i = 0; i < number; i++) { - memcpy(address[i].sa_data, priv->spy_address[i], - ETH_ALEN); - address[i].sa_family = AF_UNIX; - } + /* Create address struct */ + for (i = 0; i < number; i++) { + memcpy(address[i].sa_data, priv->spy_address[i], + ETH_ALEN); + address[i].sa_family = AF_UNIX; + } + if (number > 0) { /* Copy stats */ /* In theory, we should disable irqs while copying the stats * because the rx path migh update it in the middle... * Bah, who care ? - Jean II */ - memcpy(&spy_stat, priv->spy_stat, - sizeof(struct iw_quality) * IW_MAX_SPY); - for (i=0; i < number; i++) - priv->spy_stat[i].updated = 0; + memcpy(extra + (sizeof(struct sockaddr) * number), + priv->spy_stat, sizeof(struct iw_quality) * number); } + /* Reset updated flags. */ + for (i=0; i < number; i++) + priv->spy_stat[i].updated = 0; orinoco_unlock(priv); - /* Push stuff to user space */ srq->length = number; - if(copy_to_user(srq->pointer, address, - sizeof(struct sockaddr) * number)) - return -EFAULT; - if(copy_to_user(srq->pointer + (sizeof(struct sockaddr)*number), - &spy_stat, sizeof(struct iw_quality) * number)) - return -EFAULT; return 0; } +/* Commit handler, called after a bunch of SET operation */ +static int orinoco_ioctl_commit(struct net_device *dev, + struct iw_request_info *info, /* NULL */ + union iwreq_data *wrqu, /* NULL */ + char *extra) /* NULL */ +{ + struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; + int err = 0; + + DEBUG(1, "%s: commit\n", dev->name); + + err = orinoco_reset(priv); + if (err) { + /* Ouch ! What are we supposed to do ? */ + printk(KERN_ERR "orinoco_cs: Failed to set parameters on %s\n", + dev->name); + netif_device_detach(dev); + orinoco_shutdown(priv); + } + + return err; +} + +static const struct iw_priv_args orinoco_privtab[] = { + { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x0, 0, 0, "force_reset" }, + { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x1, 0, 0, "card_reset" }, + { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x2, + IW_PRIV_TYPE_INT | IW_PRIV_SIZE_FIXED | 1, + 0, "set_port3" }, + { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x3, 0, + IW_PRIV_TYPE_INT | IW_PRIV_SIZE_FIXED | 1, + "get_port3" }, + { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x4, + IW_PRIV_TYPE_INT | IW_PRIV_SIZE_FIXED | 1, + 0, "set_preamble" }, + { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x5, 0, + IW_PRIV_TYPE_INT | IW_PRIV_SIZE_FIXED | 1, + "get_preamble" }, + { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x6, + IW_PRIV_TYPE_INT | IW_PRIV_SIZE_FIXED | 1, + 0, "set_ibssport" }, + { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x7, 0, + IW_PRIV_TYPE_INT | IW_PRIV_SIZE_FIXED | 1, + "get_ibssport" } +}; + +#if WIRELESS_EXT > 12 + +/* + * Structures to export the Wireless Handlers + */ + +static const iw_handler orinoco_handler[] = +{ + (iw_handler) orinoco_ioctl_commit, /* SIOCSIWCOMMIT */ + (iw_handler) orinoco_ioctl_getname, /* SIOCGIWNAME */ + (iw_handler) NULL, /* SIOCSIWNWID */ + (iw_handler) NULL, /* SIOCGIWNWID */ + (iw_handler) orinoco_ioctl_setfreq, /* SIOCSIWFREQ */ + (iw_handler) orinoco_ioctl_getfreq, /* SIOCGIWFREQ */ + (iw_handler) orinoco_ioctl_setmode, /* SIOCSIWMODE */ + (iw_handler) orinoco_ioctl_getmode, /* SIOCGIWMODE */ + (iw_handler) orinoco_ioctl_setsens, /* SIOCSIWSENS */ + (iw_handler) orinoco_ioctl_getsens, /* SIOCGIWSENS */ + (iw_handler) NULL, /* SIOCSIWRANGE */ + (iw_handler) orinoco_ioctl_getiwrange, /* SIOCGIWRANGE */ + (iw_handler) NULL, /* SIOCSIWPRIV */ + (iw_handler) NULL, /* SIOCGIWPRIV */ + (iw_handler) NULL, /* SIOCSIWSTATS */ + (iw_handler) NULL, /* SIOCGIWSTATS */ + (iw_handler) orinoco_ioctl_setspy, /* SIOCSIWSPY */ + (iw_handler) orinoco_ioctl_getspy, /* SIOCGIWSPY */ + (iw_handler) NULL, /* -- hole -- */ + (iw_handler) NULL, /* -- hole -- */ + (iw_handler) NULL, /* SIOCSIWAP */ + (iw_handler) orinoco_ioctl_getwap, /* SIOCGIWAP */ + (iw_handler) NULL, /* -- hole -- */ + (iw_handler) NULL, /* SIOCGIWAPLIST */ + (iw_handler) NULL, /* -- hole -- */ + (iw_handler) NULL, /* -- hole -- */ + (iw_handler) orinoco_ioctl_setessid, /* SIOCSIWESSID */ + (iw_handler) orinoco_ioctl_getessid, /* SIOCGIWESSID */ + (iw_handler) orinoco_ioctl_setnick, /* SIOCSIWNICKN */ + (iw_handler) orinoco_ioctl_getnick, /* SIOCGIWNICKN */ + (iw_handler) NULL, /* -- hole -- */ + (iw_handler) NULL, /* -- hole -- */ + (iw_handler) orinoco_ioctl_setrate, /* SIOCSIWRATE */ + (iw_handler) orinoco_ioctl_getrate, /* SIOCGIWRATE */ + (iw_handler) orinoco_ioctl_setrts, /* SIOCSIWRTS */ + (iw_handler) orinoco_ioctl_getrts, /* SIOCGIWRTS */ + (iw_handler) orinoco_ioctl_setfrag, /* SIOCSIWFRAG */ + (iw_handler) orinoco_ioctl_getfrag, /* SIOCGIWFRAG */ + (iw_handler) NULL, /* SIOCSIWTXPOW */ + (iw_handler) orinoco_ioctl_gettxpower, /* SIOCGIWTXPOW */ + (iw_handler) NULL, /* SIOCSIWRETRY */ + (iw_handler) orinoco_ioctl_getretry, /* SIOCGIWRETRY */ + (iw_handler) orinoco_ioctl_setiwencode, /* SIOCSIWENCODE */ + (iw_handler) orinoco_ioctl_getiwencode, /* SIOCGIWENCODE */ + (iw_handler) orinoco_ioctl_setpower, /* SIOCSIWPOWER */ + (iw_handler) orinoco_ioctl_getpower, /* SIOCGIWPOWER */ +}; + +static const iw_handler orinoco_private_handler[] = +{ + orinoco_ioctl_reset, /* SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV */ + orinoco_ioctl_reset, /* SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 1 */ + orinoco_ioctl_setport3, /* SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 2 */ + orinoco_ioctl_getport3, /* SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 3 */ + orinoco_ioctl_setpreamble, /* SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 4 */ + orinoco_ioctl_getpreamble, /* SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 5 */ + orinoco_ioctl_setibssport, /* SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 6 */ + orinoco_ioctl_getibssport, /* SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 7 */ +}; + +static const struct iw_handler_def orinoco_handler_def = +{ + num_standard: sizeof(orinoco_handler)/sizeof(iw_handler), + num_private: sizeof(orinoco_private_handler)/sizeof(iw_handler), + num_private_args: sizeof(orinoco_privtab)/sizeof(struct iw_priv_args), + standard: (iw_handler *) orinoco_handler, + private: (iw_handler *) orinoco_private_handler, + private_args: (struct iw_priv_args *) orinoco_privtab, +}; + +#else /* WIRELESS_EXT > 12 */ int orinoco_ioctl(struct net_device *dev, struct ifreq *rq, int cmd) { - struct orinoco_private *priv = dev->priv; struct iwreq *wrq = (struct iwreq *)rq; int err = 0; - int changed = 0; TRACE_ENTER(dev->name); @@ -3028,186 +3371,213 @@ orinoco_ioctl(struct net_device *dev, st switch (cmd) { case SIOCGIWNAME: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWNAME\n", dev->name); - strcpy(wrq->u.name, "IEEE 802.11-DS"); + orinoco_ioctl_getname(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), NULL); break; case SIOCGIWAP: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWAP\n", dev->name); - wrq->u.ap_addr.sa_family = ARPHRD_ETHER; - err = orinoco_hw_get_bssid(priv, wrq->u.ap_addr.sa_data); + err = orinoco_ioctl_getwap(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u.ap_addr), NULL); break; case SIOCGIWRANGE: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWRANGE\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_getiwrange(dev, &wrq->u.data); + { + struct iw_range range; + err = orinoco_ioctl_getiwrange(dev, NULL, + &(wrq->u.data), + (char *) &range); + if (copy_to_user(wrq->u.data.pointer, &range, + sizeof(struct iw_range))) + err = -EFAULT; + } break; case SIOCSIWMODE: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCSIWMODE\n", dev->name); - orinoco_lock(priv); - switch (wrq->u.mode) { - case IW_MODE_ADHOC: - if (! (priv->has_ibss || priv->has_port3) ) - err = -EINVAL; - else { - priv->iw_mode = IW_MODE_ADHOC; - changed = 1; - } - break; - - case IW_MODE_INFRA: - priv->iw_mode = IW_MODE_INFRA; - changed = 1; - break; - - default: - err = -EINVAL; - break; - } - set_port_type(priv); - orinoco_unlock(priv); + err = orinoco_ioctl_setmode(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u.mode), NULL); break; case SIOCGIWMODE: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWMODE\n", dev->name); - orinoco_lock(priv); - wrq->u.mode = priv->iw_mode; - orinoco_unlock(priv); + orinoco_ioctl_getmode(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u.mode), NULL); break; case SIOCSIWENCODE: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCSIWENCODE\n", dev->name); - if (! priv->has_wep) { - err = -EOPNOTSUPP; - break; + { + char keybuf[ORINOCO_MAX_KEY_SIZE]; + if (wrq->u.encoding.pointer) { + /* We actually have a key to set */ + if (wrq->u.encoding.length > ORINOCO_MAX_KEY_SIZE) { + err = -E2BIG; + break; + } + if (copy_from_user(keybuf, + wrq->u.encoding.pointer, + wrq->u.encoding.length)) { + err = -EFAULT; + break; + } + } else if (wrq->u.encoding.length != 0) { + err = -EINVAL; + break; + } + err = orinoco_ioctl_setiwencode(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u.encoding), keybuf); } - - err = orinoco_ioctl_setiwencode(dev, &wrq->u.encoding); - if (! err) - changed = 1; break; case SIOCGIWENCODE: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWENCODE\n", dev->name); - if (! priv->has_wep) { - err = -EOPNOTSUPP; - break; - } if (! capable(CAP_NET_ADMIN)) { err = -EPERM; break; } - - err = orinoco_ioctl_getiwencode(dev, &wrq->u.encoding); + { + char keybuf[ORINOCO_MAX_KEY_SIZE]; + err = orinoco_ioctl_getiwencode(dev, NULL, + &(wrq->u.encoding), + keybuf); + if (wrq->u.encoding.pointer) { + if (copy_to_user(wrq->u.encoding.pointer, + keybuf, + wrq->u.encoding.length)) + err= -EFAULT; + } + } break; case SIOCSIWESSID: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCSIWESSID\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_setessid(dev, &wrq->u.essid); - if (! err) - changed = 1; + { + char essidbuf[IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE+1]; + if (wrq->u.essid.length > IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE) { + err = -E2BIG; + break; + } + if (copy_from_user(essidbuf, wrq->u.essid.pointer, + wrq->u.essid.length)) { + err = -EFAULT; + break; + } + err = orinoco_ioctl_setessid(dev, NULL, + &(wrq->u.essid), + essidbuf); + } break; case SIOCGIWESSID: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWESSID\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_getessid(dev, &wrq->u.essid); + { + char essidbuf[IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE+1]; + err = orinoco_ioctl_getessid(dev, NULL, + &(wrq->u.essid), + essidbuf); + if (wrq->u.essid.pointer) + if ( copy_to_user(wrq->u.essid.pointer, + essidbuf, + wrq->u.essid.length) ) + err = -EFAULT; + } break; case SIOCSIWNICKN: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCSIWNICKN\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_setnick(dev, &wrq->u.data); - if (! err) - changed = 1; + { + char nickbuf[IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE+1]; + if (wrq->u.essid.length > IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE) { + err = -E2BIG; + break; + } + if (copy_from_user(nickbuf, wrq->u.essid.pointer, + wrq->u.essid.length)) { + err = -EFAULT; + break; + } + err = orinoco_ioctl_setnick(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u.essid), + nickbuf); + } break; case SIOCGIWNICKN: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWNICKN\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_getnick(dev, &wrq->u.data); + { + char nickbuf[IW_ESSID_MAX_SIZE+1]; + err = orinoco_ioctl_getnick(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u.essid), + nickbuf); + if (wrq->u.essid.pointer) + if ( copy_to_user(wrq->u.essid.pointer, + nickbuf, + wrq->u.essid.length) ) + err = -EFAULT; + } break; case SIOCGIWFREQ: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWFREQ\n", dev->name); - wrq->u.freq.m = orinoco_hw_get_freq(priv); - wrq->u.freq.e = 1; + orinoco_ioctl_getfreq(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u.freq), NULL); break; case SIOCSIWFREQ: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCSIWFREQ\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_setfreq(dev, &wrq->u.freq); - if (! err) - changed = 1; + err = orinoco_ioctl_setfreq(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u.freq), NULL); break; case SIOCGIWSENS: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWSENS\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_getsens(dev, &wrq->u.sens); + err = orinoco_ioctl_getsens(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u.sens), NULL); break; case SIOCSIWSENS: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCSIWSENS\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_setsens(dev, &wrq->u.sens); - if (! err) - changed = 1; + err = orinoco_ioctl_setsens(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u.sens), NULL); break; case SIOCGIWRTS: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWRTS\n", dev->name); - wrq->u.rts.value = priv->rts_thresh; - wrq->u.rts.disabled = (wrq->u.rts.value == 2347); - wrq->u.rts.fixed = 1; + orinoco_ioctl_getrts(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u.rts), NULL); break; case SIOCSIWRTS: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCSIWRTS\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_setrts(dev, &wrq->u.rts); - if (! err) - changed = 1; + err = orinoco_ioctl_setrts(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u.rts), NULL); break; case SIOCSIWFRAG: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCSIWFRAG\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_setfrag(dev, &wrq->u.frag); - if (! err) - changed = 1; + err = orinoco_ioctl_setfrag(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u.frag), NULL); break; case SIOCGIWFRAG: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWFRAG\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_getfrag(dev, &wrq->u.frag); + err = orinoco_ioctl_getfrag(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u.frag), NULL); break; case SIOCSIWRATE: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCSIWRATE\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_setrate(dev, &wrq->u.bitrate); - if (! err) - changed = 1; + err = orinoco_ioctl_setrate(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u.bitrate), + NULL); break; case SIOCGIWRATE: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWRATE\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_getrate(dev, &wrq->u.bitrate); + err = orinoco_ioctl_getrate(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u.bitrate), + NULL); break; case SIOCSIWPOWER: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCSIWPOWER\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_setpower(dev, &wrq->u.power); - if (! err) - changed = 1; + err = orinoco_ioctl_setpower(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u.power), NULL); break; case SIOCGIWPOWER: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWPOWER\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_getpower(dev, &wrq->u.power); + err = orinoco_ioctl_getpower(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u.power), NULL); break; case SIOCGIWTXPOW: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWTXPOW\n", dev->name); - /* The card only supports one tx power, so this is easy */ - wrq->u.txpower.value = 15; /* dBm */ - wrq->u.txpower.fixed = 1; - wrq->u.txpower.disabled = 0; - wrq->u.txpower.flags = IW_TXPOW_DBM; + orinoco_ioctl_gettxpower(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u.txpower), NULL); break; #if WIRELESS_EXT > 10 @@ -3218,82 +3588,79 @@ orinoco_ioctl(struct net_device *dev, st case SIOCGIWRETRY: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWRETRY\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_getretry(dev, &wrq->u.retry); + err = orinoco_ioctl_getretry(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u.retry), NULL); break; #endif /* WIRELESS_EXT > 10 */ case SIOCSIWSPY: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCSIWSPY\n", dev->name); - - err = orinoco_ioctl_setspy(dev, &wrq->u.data); + { + struct sockaddr address[IW_MAX_SPY]; + /* Check the number of addresses */ + if (wrq->u.data.length > IW_MAX_SPY) { + err = -E2BIG; + break; + } + /* Get the data in the driver */ + if (wrq->u.data.pointer) { + if (copy_from_user((char *) address, + wrq->u.data.pointer, + sizeof(struct sockaddr) * + wrq->u.data.length)) { + err = -EFAULT; + break; + } + } else if (wrq->u.data.length != 0) { + err = -EINVAL; + break; + } + err = orinoco_ioctl_setspy(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u.data), + (char *) address); + } break; case SIOCGIWSPY: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWSPY\n", dev->name); - - err = orinoco_ioctl_getspy(dev, &wrq->u.data); + { + char buffer[IW_MAX_SPY * (sizeof(struct sockaddr) + + sizeof(struct iw_quality))]; + err = orinoco_ioctl_getspy(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u.data), + buffer); + if (wrq->u.data.pointer) { + if (copy_to_user(wrq->u.data.pointer, + buffer, + (wrq->u.data.length * + (sizeof(struct sockaddr) + + sizeof(struct iw_quality))) + )) + err = -EFAULT; + } + } break; case SIOCGIWPRIV: DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCGIWPRIV\n", dev->name); if (wrq->u.data.pointer) { - struct iw_priv_args privtab[] = { - { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x0, 0, 0, "force_reset" }, - { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x1, 0, 0, "card_reset" }, - { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x2, - IW_PRIV_TYPE_INT | IW_PRIV_SIZE_FIXED | 1, - 0, "set_port3" }, - { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x3, 0, - IW_PRIV_TYPE_INT | IW_PRIV_SIZE_FIXED | 1, - "get_port3" }, - { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x4, - IW_PRIV_TYPE_INT | IW_PRIV_SIZE_FIXED | 1, - 0, "set_preamble" }, - { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x5, 0, - IW_PRIV_TYPE_INT | IW_PRIV_SIZE_FIXED | 1, - "get_preamble" }, - { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x6, - IW_PRIV_TYPE_INT | IW_PRIV_SIZE_FIXED | 1, - 0, "set_ibssport" }, - { SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x7, 0, - IW_PRIV_TYPE_INT | IW_PRIV_SIZE_FIXED | 1, - "get_ibssport" } - }; - - err = verify_area(VERIFY_WRITE, wrq->u.data.pointer, sizeof(privtab)); + err = verify_area(VERIFY_WRITE, wrq->u.data.pointer, sizeof(orinoco_privtab)); if (err) break; - wrq->u.data.length = sizeof(privtab) / sizeof(privtab[0]); - if (copy_to_user(wrq->u.data.pointer, privtab, sizeof(privtab))) + wrq->u.data.length = sizeof(orinoco_privtab) / sizeof(orinoco_privtab[0]); + if (copy_to_user(wrq->u.data.pointer, orinoco_privtab, sizeof(orinoco_privtab))) err = -EFAULT; } break; case SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x0: /* force_reset */ - DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x0 (force_reset)\n", - dev->name); - if (! capable(CAP_NET_ADMIN)) { - err = -EPERM; - break; - } - - printk(KERN_DEBUG "%s: Forcing reset!\n", dev->name); - orinoco_reset(priv); - break; - case SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x1: /* card_reset */ - DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x1 (card_reset)\n", - dev->name); - if (! capable(CAP_NET_ADMIN)) { - err = -EPERM; - break; + DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x%d (force_reset)\n", + dev->name, cmd - SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV); + { + struct iw_request_info info; + info.cmd = cmd; + orinoco_ioctl_reset(dev, &info, &(wrq->u), + (char *) &(wrq->u)); } - - printk(KERN_DEBUG "%s: Forcing card reset!\n", dev->name); - if(priv->card_reset_handler != NULL) - priv->card_reset_handler(priv); - orinoco_reset(priv); break; case SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x2: /* set_port3 */ @@ -3304,15 +3671,15 @@ orinoco_ioctl(struct net_device *dev, st break; } - err = orinoco_ioctl_setport3(dev, wrq); - if (! err) - changed = 1; + err = orinoco_ioctl_setport3(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), + (char *) &(wrq->u)); break; case SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x3: /* get_port3 */ DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x3 (get_port3)\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_getport3(dev, wrq); + err = orinoco_ioctl_getport3(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), + (char *) &(wrq->u)); break; case SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x4: /* set_preamble */ @@ -3323,36 +3690,15 @@ orinoco_ioctl(struct net_device *dev, st break; } - /* 802.11b has recently defined some short preamble. - * Basically, the Phy header has been reduced in size. - * This increase performance, especially at high rates - * (the preamble is transmitted at 1Mb/s), unfortunately - * this give compatibility troubles... - Jean II */ - if(priv->has_preamble) { - int val = *( (int *) wrq->u.name ); - - orinoco_lock(priv); - if(val) - priv->preamble = 1; - else - priv->preamble = 0; - orinoco_unlock(priv); - changed = 1; - } else - err = -EOPNOTSUPP; + err = orinoco_ioctl_setpreamble(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), + (char *) &(wrq->u)); break; case SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x5: /* get_preamble */ DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x5 (get_preamble)\n", dev->name); - if(priv->has_preamble) { - int *val = (int *)wrq->u.name; - - orinoco_lock(priv); - *val = priv->preamble; - orinoco_unlock(priv); - } else - err = -EOPNOTSUPP; + err = orinoco_ioctl_getpreamble(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), + (char *) &(wrq->u)); break; case SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x6: /* set_ibssport */ DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x6 (set_ibssport)\n", @@ -3362,15 +3708,15 @@ orinoco_ioctl(struct net_device *dev, st break; } - err = orinoco_ioctl_setibssport(dev, wrq); - if (! err) - changed = 1; + err = orinoco_ioctl_setibssport(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), + (char *) &(wrq->u)); break; case SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x7: /* get_ibssport */ DEBUG(1, "%s: SIOCIWFIRSTPRIV + 0x7 (get_ibssport)\n", dev->name); - err = orinoco_ioctl_getibssport(dev, wrq); + err = orinoco_ioctl_getibssport(dev, NULL, &(wrq->u), + (char *) &(wrq->u)); break; @@ -3378,21 +3724,18 @@ orinoco_ioctl(struct net_device *dev, st err = -EOPNOTSUPP; } - if (! err && changed && netif_running(dev)) { - err = orinoco_reset(priv); - if (err) { - /* Ouch ! What are we supposed to do ? */ - printk(KERN_ERR "orinoco_cs: Failed to set parameters on %s\n", - dev->name); - netif_device_detach(dev); - orinoco_shutdown(priv); - } - } + if (err == -EINPROGRESS) { + if(netif_running(dev)) + err = orinoco_ioctl_commit(dev, NULL, NULL, NULL); + else + err = 0; /* Success */ + } TRACE_EXIT(dev->name); return err; } +#endif /* WIRELESS_EXT > 12 */ int orinoco_change_mtu(struct net_device *dev, int new_mtu) @@ -3950,7 +4293,11 @@ orinoco_setup(struct orinoco_private* pr dev->get_stats = orinoco_get_stats; dev->get_wireless_stats = orinoco_get_wireless_stats; +#if WIRELESS_EXT > 12 + dev->wireless_handlers = (struct iw_handler_def *)&orinoco_handler_def; +#else /* WIRELESS_EXT > 12 */ dev->do_ioctl = orinoco_ioctl; +#endif /* WIRELESS_EXT > 12 */ dev->change_mtu = orinoco_change_mtu; dev->set_multicast_list = orinoco_set_multicast_list; @@ -3966,7 +4313,6 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(orinoco_debug); EXPORT_SYMBOL(orinoco_init); EXPORT_SYMBOL(orinoco_xmit); EXPORT_SYMBOL(orinoco_tx_timeout); -EXPORT_SYMBOL(orinoco_ioctl); EXPORT_SYMBOL(orinoco_change_mtu); EXPORT_SYMBOL(orinoco_set_multicast_list); EXPORT_SYMBOL(orinoco_shutdown); Only in linux/drivers/net/wireless/: orinoco.c-temp Only in linux/drivers/net/wireless/: orinoco.c~ diff -u -p -r linux/drivers/net/wireless-8c-fixed/orinoco.h linux/drivers/net/wireless/orinoco.h --- linux/drivers/net/wireless-8c-fixed/orinoco.h Tue Dec 18 13:52:00 2001 +++ linux/drivers/net/wireless/orinoco.h Tue Dec 18 15:36:40 2001 @@ -114,7 +114,9 @@ extern int orinoco_init(struct net_devic extern int orinoco_xmit(struct sk_buff *skb, struct net_device *dev); extern void orinoco_tx_timeout(struct net_device *dev); +#if WIRELESS_EXT <= 12 extern int orinoco_ioctl(struct net_device *dev, struct ifreq *rq, int cmd); +#endif /* WIRELESS_EXT <= 12 */ extern int orinoco_change_mtu(struct net_device *dev, int new_mtu); extern void orinoco_set_multicast_list(struct net_device *dev); --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ-- From falbinali@yahoo.com Wed Dec 19 15:36:32 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from web11606.mail.yahoo.com (web11606.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.58]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2448750B3 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:36:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011219233447.44599.qmail@web11606.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.196.112.204] by web11606.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:34:47 PST Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:34:47 -0800 (PST) From: Subject: Re: Forced Handoff To: Clement Yui-Wah Lee Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: The APs has the same ESSID... There is an ap option for the iwconfig command, will that do the job. It tries binding to the specified AP yet it says that if the quality of the link goes down, it will revert to auto mode. What does that mean?!! Regards, falbinali --- "LEE, Yui-wah (Clement)" wrote: > Are the two APs configured with different ESSIDs? > If so, you can use > the command > > # iwconfig essid > > to force the station to associate with one > particular AP and off from > the other. > > -- > Clement > > On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 falbinali@yahoo.com wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I need your help. I have 2 access points and a > > Laptop with orinoco_cs driver. The card binds to > the > > access point with the strongest S/N, is it > possible to > > force a handoff (maybe reseting the card with a > > different script). Please if anyone has an idea on > how > > to accomplish that, let me know. > > > > Regards, > > > > falbinali > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for > all of > > your unique holiday gifts! Buy at > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com From kleptog@svana.org Wed Dec 19 16:03:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3359E4700 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 16:02:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16Gqdl-0004zN-00; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 11:00:49 +1100 Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 11:00:49 +1100 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: falbinali@yahoo.com Cc: Clement Yui-Wah Lee , wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Forced Handoff Message-ID: <20011220110049.A19165@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout References: <20011219233447.44599.qmail@web11606.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011219233447.44599.qmail@web11606.mail.yahoo.com>; from falbinali@yahoo.com on Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 03:34:47PM -0800 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 03:34:47PM -0800, falbinali@yahoo.com wrote: > The APs has the same ESSID... There is an ap option > for the iwconfig command, will that do the job. It > tries binding to the specified AP yet it says that if > the quality of the link goes down, it will revert to > auto mode. What does that mean?!! Quick question, why do you want to associate with a particular AP? If they're not connected to the same network, why do they have the same ESSID? If they are connected to the same network, then it doesn't matter which one you connect to? HTH, > --- "LEE, Yui-wah (Clement)" > wrote: > > Are the two APs configured with different ESSIDs? > > If so, you can use > > the command > > > > # iwconfig essid > > > > to force the station to associate with one > > particular AP and off from > > the other. > > > > -- > > Clement > > > > On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 falbinali@yahoo.com wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I need your help. I have 2 access points and a > > > Laptop with orinoco_cs driver. The card binds to > > the > > > access point with the strongest S/N, is it > > possible to > > > force a handoff (maybe reseting the card with a > > > different script). Please if anyone has an idea on > > how > > > to accomplish that, let me know. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > falbinali > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for > > all of > > > your unique holiday gifts! Buy at > > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of > your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com > or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com > -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Terrorists can only take my life. Only my government can take my freedom. From falbinali@yahoo.com Wed Dec 19 16:22:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from web11608.mail.yahoo.com (web11608.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.60]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A11F4169 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 16:22:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011220002036.71443.qmail@web11608.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.196.112.204] by web11608.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 16:20:36 PST Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 16:20:36 -0800 (PST) From: Subject: Re: Forced Handoff To: Martijn van Oosterhout Cc: Clement Yui-Wah Lee , wireless@lists.samba.org In-Reply-To: <20011220110049.A19165@svana.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Well I am trying to assign each AP a certain traffic class. Something like traffic shaping. Regards, falbinali --- Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 03:34:47PM -0800, > falbinali@yahoo.com wrote: > > The APs has the same ESSID... There is an ap > option > > for the iwconfig command, will that do the job. It > > tries binding to the specified AP yet it says > that if > > the quality of the link goes down, it will revert > to > > auto mode. What does that mean?!! > > Quick question, why do you want to associate with a > particular AP? If > they're not connected to the same network, why do > they have the same ESSID? > If they are connected to the same network, then it > doesn't matter which one > you connect to? > > HTH, > > > --- "LEE, Yui-wah (Clement)" > > wrote: > > > Are the two APs configured with different > ESSIDs? > > > If so, you can use > > > the command > > > > > > # iwconfig essid > > > > > > to force the station to associate with one > > > particular AP and off from > > > the other. > > > > > > -- > > > Clement > > > > > > On Wed, 19 Dec 2001 falbinali@yahoo.com wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I need your help. I have 2 access points and > a > > > > Laptop with orinoco_cs driver. The card binds > to > > > the > > > > access point with the strongest S/N, is it > > > possible to > > > > force a handoff (maybe reseting the card with > a > > > > different script). Please if anyone has an > idea on > > > how > > > > to accomplish that, let me know. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > falbinali > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions > for > > > all of > > > > your unique holiday gifts! Buy at > > > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > > or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for > all of > > your unique holiday gifts! Buy at > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > > -- > Martijn van Oosterhout > http://svana.org/kleptog/ > > Terrorists can only take my life. Only my > government can take my freedom. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Robert.Edwards@anu.edu.au Wed Dec 19 19:34:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from cs.anu.edu.au (cs.anu.edu.au [150.203.164.35]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9A64153 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 19:34:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from anu.edu.au (tux [150.203.160.12]) by cs.anu.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16923; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 14:31:26 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <3C215BD2.A18966CA@anu.edu.au> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 14:32:34 +1100 From: Bob Edwards Organization: Australian National University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.9-13smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jamin W. Collins" Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Small PCs (was Wireless Access Points) References: <5.1.0.14.2.20011213164905.00b29230@arthem.com> <1008515240.22171.10.camel@thor.asgardsrealm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: "Jamin W. Collins" wrote: > > On Thu, 2001-12-13 at 17:08, JonesMB wrote: > > I wonder if there is a market for PCs that have the same approx. dimensions > > as a VCR or DVD player and fit in a home entertainment center or TV > > stand. if such a PC existed, you could have one of those in your hall and > > the AP nearby. > > There are numerous companies making small PC. I provided the link to > one such PC earlier (it had integrated modem and 10/100 ethernet). > > ePC-II (by far the smallest I've seen) > http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/epsmalpc.html > > And there are numerous companies making small cases such as: > http://www.geodatasys.com/fxd01.htm > > Jamin W. Collins For really small Ethernet devices with serial, check out the SitePlayer: http://www.siteplayer.com 1" square and only US$29.95 (won't run Linux though, nor will it route!). On a more serious note, JK microsystems has the uFlashTCP and LogicFlex (US$149 and US$189), 386's with Ethernet and serial and an O/S (not Linux): http://www.jkmicro.com Should be possible to set up as a firewall/router, though. How about the Technologic Systems TS-5300 with Linux kernel 2.4 included! US$199 (quantity 100) gets you a 133MHz 586, Compact Flash slot (seen the 802.11b CF wireless cards yet?) and 16MB RAM with Linux ready to go! They also have the TS-2800, with a 386 CPU. http://www.embeddedx86.com Megatel Computer Corp also have some interesting Single Board Computers: http://www.megatel.ca My favourite resource for these things is Circuit Cellar magazine. They have heaps of ads for this sort of stuff. In any case, you don't need to spend US$1k for a (very) small PC (about 10cm square). Cheers, Bob Edwards. From sjh@cs.anu.edu.au Wed Dec 19 23:01:56 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from antares.anu.edu.au (antares.anu.edu.au [150.203.160.26]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D293A4410; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:01:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from diver.anu.edu.au (diver [150.203.160.22]) by antares.anu.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA10779; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 18:00:08 +1100 (EST) Received: (from sjh@localhost) by diver.anu.edu.au (8.11.2/8.9.3) id fBK708F02384; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 18:00:08 +1100 Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 18:00:07 +1100 From: Steven Hanley To: Robert Edwards Cc: wireless@samba.org, linux@samba.org Subject: apple airport 2 contains Message-ID: <20011220180007.A2377@diver.anu.edu.au> Reply-To: Steven Hanley Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: Australian National University Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: After we pulled the new airport 2 apart this was found inside. Main cpu XPC855TZP80D4 (ppc) also says 3K2A Made Week 39 01 Ram MT 48LC2M32B2 - 6 D (probably 2 MB x 4) PHY Chips BCM5221A4KPT Broadcom (2 ethernet interfaces) Flash Intel TE28F160 Modem Conexant L2800-38 (probably same binary only crap as in new apple laptops) A dirty great big heatsink attached to the board which weighs more than anything else. An apple airport wireless card, and a rather unusual antenna configuration ontop of the unit (inside the plastic shell) Unfortunately wont run the existing linux on airport setup, and I suspect the modem will never work on linux, however the rest may be able to run linux with some effort. See You Steve -- Steven Hanley - sjh@cs.anu.edu.au - +61 2 6125 5693 TSG@DCS - Australian National University From roger.larsson@norran.net Thu Dec 20 13:23:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailc.telia.com (mailc.telia.com [194.22.190.4]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6804419 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 13:23:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (h164n1fls31o925.telia.com [213.65.254.164]) by mailc.telia.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fBKLKcH15907; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 22:20:38 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200112202120.fBKLKcH15907@mailc.telia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Roger Larsson To: jt@hpl.hp.com, Jean Tourrilhes Subject: Re: Re : Lost my working Windows 98 when adding another Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 22:18:15 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Cc: Samba/Wavelan mailing list References: <20011218165520.A13980@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <200112192055.fBJKtMj27190@maild.telia.com> <20011219141648.C14667@bougret.hpl.hp.com> In-Reply-To: <20011219141648.C14667@bougret.hpl.hp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wednesdayen den 19 December 2001 23.16, Jean Tourrilhes wrote: > On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 09:52:59PM +0100, Roger Larsson wrote: > > Ok, I have been testing a little in Windows (reinstalled drivers...) > > > > The driver config has a "802.11 AdHoc" mode (and AdHoc, infrastructure) > > SSID is correct > > TxRate is Fully automatic > > PS (power save) in Disabled > > Channel is correct (2) > > > > WEP 64 bit, manually entered HEX > > > > With the Prism test utility I found out that the mode toggles between: > > "Host IBSS" and "Basic Service Set" (BSS) > > (the tool has an IBSS mode too...) > > In Host IBSS mode I got associated. > > After configuring Network (IP, DNS, Gateway) I got connection!!! > > But I lost it soon thereafter... > > It works, but it's flaky. That's exactly my experience with > Intersil firmwares ;-) Either you upgrade all the firmware, or you use > the good old demo mode (port3). > I have found out that if you loose the connection it is a good idea to try # iwconfig ethX rate auto It often helps! /RogerL -- Roger Larsson Skellefteå Sweden From jt@bougret.hpl.hp.com Thu Dec 20 17:17:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com (deimos.hpl.hp.com [192.6.19.190]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03556452A for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 17:17:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from spica.hpl.hp.com (spica.hpl.hp.com [15.25.0.163]) by deimos.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_24419)/HPL-PA Relay) with ESMTP id RAA05570; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 17:15:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from bougret.hpl.hp.com (mail@bougret.hpl.hp.com [15.4.92.227]) by spica.hpl.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 HPLabs Timeshare) with ESMTP id RAA14791; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 17:15:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from jt by bougret.hpl.hp.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16HEHq-00049q-00; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 17:15:46 -0800 Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 17:15:46 -0800 To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list , Aironet mailing list , linux-wlan-user@lists.linux-wlan.com Subject: Wireless Extensions : New driver API - phase2 Message-ID: <20011220171546.D15923@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Reply-To: jt@hpl.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: HP Labs Palo Alto Address: HP Labs, 1U-17, 1501 Page Mill road, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA. E-mail: jt@hpl.hp.com From: Jean Tourrilhes Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I've been working a bit more on Wireless Extensions and the new driver API. It's there : http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Tools.html#newapi I'll catch up with e-mail and finish up this stuff when I'm back from hollydays... Jean From rake_arora@yahoo.com Thu Dec 20 20:27:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from web14703.mail.yahoo.com (web14703.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.120]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DB67D4123 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 20:27:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011221042601.8431.qmail@web14703.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.105.236.145] by web14703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 20:26:01 PST Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 20:26:01 -0800 (PST) From: Rakesh Arora Subject: Please help!!continuation to prev email (newbie) To: wireless@lists.samba.org In-Reply-To: <200112192102.fBJL2uj07030@maild.telia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, Now I think that I got most of it working (thanks to Roger). I do not have any module versioning errors and the hermes.o, orinoco.o and orinoco_cs.o get installed in the proper directory. Also I now hear two beeps instead of one. However, iwconfig eth1 gives me segmentation fault. The output is as follows: -------------------------------------------------- eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"" Nickname:"localhost.localdomain" Frequency:2.457GHz Sensitivity:1/3 Mode:Managed Access Point: 00:00:00:00:00:00 Bit Rate:2Mb/s RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Encryption key:off Power Management:off Link quality:0/92 Signal level:134/153 Noise level:134/153 Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 Segmentation fault (core dumped) ----------------------------------------------------- I have made changes to /etc/pcmcia/config.opts to include the network name. It is: module "orinoco_cs" opts "network name=1e8146" I tried 'iwconfig eth1 ap 00:02:2D:1E:81:46:' but it gave me an error. Do I need to make any changes to network.opts and wireless.opts? Please help. Thanks, rakesh --- Roger Larsson wrote: > On Wednesdayen den 19 December 2001 21.07, Rakesh > Arora wrote: > > Hi, > > As per the log file snippet in the prev > email, > > modprobe wasn't able to load the module > hermes/orinoco > > as there was no file other than dummy.o in > > /lib/modules/2.4.12/pcmcia/. So I copied the files > > hermes.o, orinoco.o and orinoco_cs.o from 2.4.2. > Now > > it gives the incompatible version error. Will > > switching Versioning off in the config file help > me? > > Else how do I get the compatible .o files? I am > > attaching the snippet illustrating this error. > > > > Have you verified that > /lib/modules/2.4.12/kernel/drivers/net/hermes.o > does exist? > > Mine is located in: > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com From dgibson@samba.org Thu Dec 20 20:48:09 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id 470165332; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 20:48:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 15:43:51 +1100 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Please help!!continuation to prev email (newbie) Message-ID: <20011221044351.GD6351@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <200112192102.fBJL2uj07030@maild.telia.com> <20011221042601.8431.qmail@web14703.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011221042601.8431.qmail@web14703.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 08:26:01PM -0800, Rakesh Arora wrote: > Hi, > Now I think that I got most of it working > (thanks to Roger). I do not have any module versioning > errors and the hermes.o, orinoco.o and orinoco_cs.o > get installed in the proper directory. Also I now hear > two beeps instead of one. However, iwconfig eth1 gives > me segmentation fault. The output is as follows: > eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"" > Nickname:"localhost.localdomain" > Frequency:2.457GHz Sensitivity:1/3 Mode:Managed > Access Point: 00:00:00:00:00:00 > Bit Rate:2Mb/s RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off > Encryption key:off > Power Management:off > Link quality:0/92 Signal level:134/153 Noise > level:134/153 > Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 > > Segmentation fault (core dumped) You have an old version of the wireless-tools. The segv happens after iwconfig has done its useful work, so it can be ignored. > I have made changes to /etc/pcmcia/config.opts to > include the network name. It is: > module "orinoco_cs" opts "network name=1e8146" Don't use module options for this, instead use "iwconfig eth1 essid NAME" or you can set the ESSID in /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts. > I tried 'iwconfig eth1 ap 00:02:2D:1E:81:46:' but it > gave me an error. Do I need to make any changes to > network.opts and wireless.opts? Please help. The orinoco driver doesn't support the ap operation - we have no information on how to program the card to associate with a given AP by BSSID. In most cases setting the ESSID is sufficient. -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From binzhou@site.uottawa.ca Thu Dec 20 22:49:45 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.site.uottawa.ca (mailn.site.uottawa.ca [137.122.89.142]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F91F4123 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 22:49:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from bwwil15 (bwwil15.site.uottawa.ca [137.122.91.124]) by mail.site.uottawa.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA86476; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 01:47:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <003401c18a05$25d61060$7c5b7a89@site.uottawa.ca> From: "Bin Zhou" To: "Rakesh Arora" , References: <20011221042601.8431.qmail@web14703.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Please help!!continuation to prev email (newbie) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 01:52:05 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, My problem seems simple, maybe you can help me. The PCMCIA cannot installed after I upgrate the kernel from 2.2.16-22 to 2.4.9 because the pcmcia_core.o and other files don't exist in /lib/modules/2.4.9/pcmcia/ dirctory. So lsmod, no module shows. So I install the kernel again with module utility, pcmcia_cs, updated. However, it's same. What's wrong? Can you introduce your installation procedures? Thanks. Bin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rakesh Arora" To: Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 8:26 PM Subject: Please help!!continuation to prev email (newbie) > Hi, > Now I think that I got most of it working > (thanks to Roger). I do not have any module versioning > errors and the hermes.o, orinoco.o and orinoco_cs.o > get installed in the proper directory. Also I now hear > two beeps instead of one. However, iwconfig eth1 gives > me segmentation fault. The output is as follows: > -------------------------------------------------- > eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"" > Nickname:"localhost.localdomain" > Frequency:2.457GHz Sensitivity:1/3 Mode:Managed > Access Point: 00:00:00:00:00:00 > Bit Rate:2Mb/s RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off > Encryption key:off > Power Management:off > Link quality:0/92 Signal level:134/153 Noise > level:134/153 > Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 > > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > ----------------------------------------------------- > I have made changes to /etc/pcmcia/config.opts to > include the network name. It is: > module "orinoco_cs" opts "network name=1e8146" > > I tried 'iwconfig eth1 ap 00:02:2D:1E:81:46:' but it > gave me an error. Do I need to make any changes to > network.opts and wireless.opts? Please help. > > Thanks, > rakesh > > > --- Roger Larsson wrote: > > On Wednesdayen den 19 December 2001 21.07, Rakesh > > Arora wrote: > > > Hi, > > > As per the log file snippet in the prev > > email, > > > modprobe wasn't able to load the module > > hermes/orinoco > > > as there was no file other than dummy.o in > > > /lib/modules/2.4.12/pcmcia/. So I copied the files > > > hermes.o, orinoco.o and orinoco_cs.o from 2.4.2. > > Now > > > it gives the incompatible version error. Will > > > switching Versioning off in the config file help > > me? > > > Else how do I get the compatible .o files? I am > > > attaching the snippet illustrating this error. > > > > > > > Have you verified that > > /lib/modules/2.4.12/kernel/drivers/net/hermes.o > > does exist? > > > > Mine is located in: > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of > your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com > or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com > From rake_arora@yahoo.com Thu Dec 20 23:29:38 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from web14702.mail.yahoo.com (web14702.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.119]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 023964123 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 23:29:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011221072748.92709.qmail@web14702.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.167.221.12] by web14702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 23:27:48 PST Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 23:27:48 -0800 (PST) From: Rakesh Arora Subject: Re: Please help!!continuation to prev email (newbie) To: Bin Zhou , wireless@lists.samba.org In-Reply-To: <003401c18a05$25d61060$7c5b7a89@site.uottawa.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I used the in-built pcmcia modules, rather than the standalone pcmcia-cs package. My steps were: 1. make mrproper 2. make xconfig 3. make dep make clean 4. make bzImage 5. make modules make modules_install 6. copy bzImage image to /boot 7. copy System.map to /boot/System.map-2.4.16 and then create a symbolic link for /boot/System.map 8. make changes to /etc/lilo.conf, run /sbin/lilo and then reboot. All the files pcmcia_core.o, orinoco_cs.o etc were installed in the proper directories. I also copied the file hermes.conf to /etc/pcmcia earlier on. Hope this helps. If you want, I can send you my .config file to your email address. -rakesh --- Bin Zhou wrote: > Hi, > > My problem seems simple, maybe you can help me. > The PCMCIA cannot installed after I upgrate the > kernel from 2.2.16-22 to > 2.4.9 because the pcmcia_core.o and other files > don't exist in > /lib/modules/2.4.9/pcmcia/ dirctory. So lsmod, no > module shows. > > So I install the kernel again with module utility, > pcmcia_cs, updated. > However, it's same. > > What's wrong? Can you introduce your installation > procedures? > > Thanks. > > Bin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com From rake_arora@yahoo.com Fri Dec 21 08:40:21 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from web14706.mail.yahoo.com (web14706.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.123]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 23A084234 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 08:40:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011221163828.11124.qmail@web14706.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.105.236.145] by web14706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 08:38:28 PST Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 08:38:28 -0800 (PST) From: Rakesh Arora Subject: Re: Please help!!continuation to prev email (newbie) To: wireless@lists.samba.org, david@gibson.dropbear.id.au In-Reply-To: <003401c18a05$25d61060$7c5b7a89@site.uottawa.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I still can't get it to work:( I tried setting the essid using iwconfig and it won't do anything. However it does allow me to set the nickname, mode etc. I also edited my wireless.opts and restarted pcmcia but that too was of no help either. I am using the inbuilt pcmcia version 3.1.22. Do I need to upgrade it to 3.1.29? My wireless.opts file looks like this: case "$ADDRESS" in # Lucent Wavelan IEEE (+ Orinoco, RoamAbout and ELSA) # Melco/Buffalo Networks WLI-PCM-L11 # Note : wvlan_cs driver only, and version 1.0.4+ for encryption support *,*,*,00:02:2D:*) INFO="Wavelan IEEE example (Lucent default settings)" ESSID="1e8146" MODE="Managed" # KEY="s:e8146" # ESSID="Wavelan Network" When I do iwconfig eth1, it lists my ESSID as "" and AP as 00:00:00:00:00. Any ideas on how I can get this to work. Thanks a lot, rakesh You have an old version of the wireless-tools. The segv happens after iwconfig has done its useful work, so it can be ignored. > I have made changes to /etc/pcmcia/config.opts to > include the network name. It is: > module "orinoco_cs" opts "network name=1e8146" Don't use module options for this, instead use "iwconfig eth1 essid NAME" or you can set the ESSID in /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts. > I tried 'iwconfig eth1 ap 00:02:2D:1E:81:46:' but it > gave me an error. Do I need to make any changes to > network.opts and wireless.opts? Please help. The orinoco driver doesn't support the ap operation - we have noinformation on how to program the card to associate with a given AP by BSSID. In most cases setting the ESSID is sufficient. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com From binzhou@site.uottawa.ca Fri Dec 21 10:04:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.site.uottawa.ca (mailn.site.uottawa.ca [137.122.89.142]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5F1556A for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:04:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from site0.site.uottawa.ca (binzhou@site0.site.uottawa.ca [137.122.95.225]) by mail.site.uottawa.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA04985; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:02:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:01:32 -0500 (EST) From: Bin Zhou To: Rakesh Arora Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Please help!!continuation to prev email (newbie) In-Reply-To: <20011221072748.92709.qmail@web14702.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, Rakesh Thank you for help. Questions: 1. Make xconfig I use orinoco pc acrd on pci adapter. PCI bridge Probe result is TI 1410. My configure on make xconfig is a. general setup: PCMCIA/CardBus Support: Y CardBus support: Y I82365 compatible bridge support: Y (BTW, I don't know TI1410 bridge is compatible with i82365 or Yenta, I choose Y because I am not sure) b.network devices support: Metwork device support:Y Dummy netdriver support:Y Ethernet(10 or 100M):Y 3c90x card support:Y (one 3c905 net card, work fine) Tulip card support:Y (one Mx98715 net card, work fine) Wireless Lan(non-hamradio): Y (to enable wireless extension) Wireless PCMCIA cards support: Hermes support: Y (for orinoco card) c. PCMCIA network device support:Y Pcmcia wireless Lan:Y lucent wavelan wireless support:Y d. loadable module support: all Y 2. others are same procedure except without cp System.map what's System.map used for? I cannot find System.map-2.4.9? Thanks again for all the help from this forum. Bin On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, Rakesh Arora wrote: > Hi, > I used the in-built pcmcia modules, rather than > the standalone pcmcia-cs package. My steps were: > 1. make mrproper > 2. make xconfig > 3. make dep make clean > 4. make bzImage > 5. make modules make modules_install > 6. copy bzImage image to /boot > 7. copy System.map to /boot/System.map-2.4.16 and then > create a symbolic link for /boot/System.map > 8. make changes to /etc/lilo.conf, run /sbin/lilo and > then reboot. > > All the files pcmcia_core.o, orinoco_cs.o etc were > installed in the proper directories. I also copied the > file hermes.conf to /etc/pcmcia earlier on. > > Hope this helps. If you want, I can send you my > .config file to your email address. > > -rakesh > > --- Bin Zhou wrote: > > Hi, > > > > My problem seems simple, maybe you can help me. > > The PCMCIA cannot installed after I upgrate the > > kernel from 2.2.16-22 to > > 2.4.9 because the pcmcia_core.o and other files > > don't exist in > > /lib/modules/2.4.9/pcmcia/ dirctory. So lsmod, no > > module shows. > > > > So I install the kernel again with module utility, > > pcmcia_cs, updated. > > However, it's same. > > > > What's wrong? Can you introduce your installation > > procedures? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Bin > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of > your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com > or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > From cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au Sat Dec 22 19:34:37 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.hunter.apana.org.au (giles.apana.org.au [203.14.156.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 428274654 for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 19:33:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.hunter.apana.org.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) with UUCP id fBN3V1e19103 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 14:31:01 +1100 Received: (from cjb@localhost) by brushtail.apana.org.au (8.11.6/8.11.0) id fBN3UqZ01003; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 14:30:52 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 14:30:52 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <200112230330.fBN3UqZ01003@brushtail.apana.org.au> From: Chris Baird To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: 27MHz transceiver modules? Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: What's the Knowledge(tm) on 27MHz transceiver modules/kits/bits suitable for serial communication? (I don't suppose those 'wireless' keyboards and mice are easily hackable?) Given that AM-CB modulators are dirt-cheap to make, I'm thinking a home-brew low-power 27MHz modem (with as much brains as an IrDA port) could be an alternative.. -- Chris Baird,, From vk4kij@ecig.com.au Sat Dec 22 20:06:31 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from vk4kij.ecig.com.au (unknown [203.31.210.27]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745024235 for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 20:06:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (vk4kij@localhost) by vk4kij.ecig.com.au (8.11.6/8.10.2) with ESMTP id fBN43Lq15596; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 14:03:22 +1000 Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 14:03:21 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Johnson To: Chris Baird Cc: Subject: Re: 27MHz transceiver modules? In-Reply-To: <200112230330.fBN3UqZ01003@brushtail.apana.org.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: G'day Chris, On Sun, 23 Dec 2001, Chris Baird wrote: > What's the Knowledge(tm) on 27MHz transceiver modules/kits/bits > suitable for serial communication? (I don't suppose those 'wireless' > keyboards and mice are easily hackable?) > > Given that AM-CB modulators are dirt-cheap to make, I'm thinking a > home-brew low-power 27MHz modem (with as much brains as an IrDA port) > could be an alternative.. There are legal considerations, but putting those aside, speed will be lacking because of the typical narrow bandwidth available on a CB radio, 300-1200 bps is typical on HF radio via amateur radio. The other problem is the communication is simplex, unless you have a receiver & transmitter running together at both ends with enough separation so they don't interfere with each other. -- Catch you later, |InterNet - || AmprNet - Ian. ||| AX25 - "Never apply a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem!" From john.dalton@bigfoot.com Sun Dec 23 05:03:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from entoo.connect.com.au (entoo.connect.com.au [192.189.54.8]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01704137 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 05:03:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from bing (acc18-ppp339.hay.dialup.connect.net.au [210.10.189.85]) by entoo.connect.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB85CDD39A for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 23:56:19 +1100 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 00:02:19 +1100 From: John Dalton To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: 10MB Optical Link Message-ID: <20011224000219.C546@bing.> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.6 Content-Length: 330 Lines: 11 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Instructions for a Do-It-Youself 10MB, 0.5-1km point-to-point optical link are on the web. It uses an Ethernet card as the modulator/demodulator. LEDs are used as the light source and the detector is a PIN photodiode. With a larger lens, the range can be extended. http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~clock/twibright/ronja/ John From sookees@islandnet.com Sun Dec 23 11:46:08 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.islandnet.com (mail.islandnet.com [199.175.106.4]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6F74133 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:46:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from [139.142.113.247] (helo=sookees%ppp) by mail.islandnet.com with SMTP id 16IEXY-000Ap0-00 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:44:08 -0800 Message-ID: <000201c18bea$31237520$f7718e8b@sookees%ppp> From: "Gary Nicholls" To: Subject: UHF space Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:13:03 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I can see where the 27 Mhz band would be limiting, although I think as part of a community communications system it might be useful for text messaging, but what about UHF between 470 and 800 mhz? My UHF detector (portable B/W t/v) has maybe 2 channels with a carrier, and the occasional tow truck or taxi conversation. Isnt there 6Mhz per channel here, with guardband, and dozens of channels? Of course there are legal problems (Im in Canada) but if these channels are not being used, I think the public should have access to them for community purposes. Gary. >> Given that AM-CB modulators are dirt-cheap to make, I'm thinking a >> home-brew low-power 27MHz modem (with as much brains as an IrDA port) >> could be an alternative.. >There are legal considerations, but putting those aside, speed will be >lacking because of the typical narrow bandwidth available on a CB radio, >300-1200 bps is typical on HF radio via amateur radio. The other problem >is the communication is simplex, unless you have a receiver & transmitter >running together at both ends with enough separation so they don't >interfere with each other. From Justin@futurecorp.co.uk Sun Dec 23 16:04:10 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from gadolinium.btinternet.com (gadolinium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.111]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5634540C6 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 16:04:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from host217-39-53-186.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.39.53.186] helo=futurecorp.co.uk) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #8) id 16IIZD-00059z-00; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 00:02:07 +0000 Message-ID: <3C266F68.92D70AD9@futurecorp.co.uk> Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 23:57:28 +0000 From: "Justin T. Fanning" Organization: Futurecorp (UK) Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Nicholls Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: UHF space References: <000201c18bea$31237520$f7718e8b@sookees%ppp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Under the current Act, packet or any other form of data transmission that does not fall under "Telemetry and Telecommand" (The ACA's examples are monitoring water levels in dams, controlling equipment such as irrigation pumps, opening and closing gates etc.) is not permitted under the UHF CB class licence. http://www.aca.gov.au/publications/info/cbrcl.htm What you may be interested in looking into though is the Low Power Radio Association (http://www.lpra.org/), they have all sorts of data modules. Australia has wide bandwidth licence free spectrum in the 900 Mhz, 2.4 Ghz, 5.7 Ghz & 24 Ghz bands. Narrow bandwidth is available in the 6.7 Mhz, 13 Mhz, 26 Mhz, 29 Mhz, 36 Mhz, 40 Mhz & 46Mhz bands (and many MANY more!) You can find complete details on the ACA's web site. Do some searched for "low power", "licence free" etc. I was looking into the 40 Mhz allocation (40.66 MHz - 40.70 MHz) a few years back. There is about 40 khz available, with an output power of 1W. Its pretty dirty spectrum, your fighting it out with baby monitors etc, but 1W is a lot of output power if properly used. JF --- Gary Nicholls wrote: > > I can see where the 27 Mhz band would be limiting, although I think as part > of a community communications system it might be useful for text messaging, > but what about UHF between 470 and 800 mhz? My UHF detector (portable B/W > t/v) has maybe 2 channels with a carrier, and the occasional tow truck or > taxi conversation. Isnt there 6Mhz per channel here, with guardband, and > dozens of channels? Of course there are legal problems (Im in Canada) but if > these channels are not being used, I think the public should have access to > them for community purposes. > Gary. > > >> Given that AM-CB modulators are dirt-cheap to make, I'm thinking a > >> home-brew low-power 27MHz modem (with as much brains as an IrDA port) > >> could be an alternative.. > > >There are legal considerations, but putting those aside, speed will be > >lacking because of the typical narrow bandwidth available on a CB radio, > >300-1200 bps is typical on HF radio via amateur radio. The other problem > >is the communication is simplex, unless you have a receiver & transmitter > >running together at both ends with enough separation so they don't > >interfere with each other. From ryan@prodigital.net.au Sun Dec 23 17:46:48 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from prodigital.net.au (i231-230.nv.iinet.net.au [203.59.231.230]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B6240C6 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 17:46:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from lapras.slowest.net (rhydon [10.2.0.1]) by prodigital.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id JAA04835 for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 09:44:41 +0800 X-Authentication-Warning: prodigital.net.au: Host rhydon [10.2.0.1] claimed to be lapras.slowest.net Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011224092815.00a33980@10.10.10.1> X-Sender: ryan@10.10.10.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 09:44:51 +0800 To: wireless@lists.samba.org From: Ryan Subject: Re: UHF space In-Reply-To: <000201c18bea$31237520$f7718e8b@sookees%ppp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: At 11:13 AM 23-12-01 -0800, you wrote: >I can see where the 27 Mhz band would be limiting, although I think as part >of a community communications system it might be useful for text messaging, >but what about UHF between 470 and 800 mhz? Have a play around on the ACA site - www.aca.gov.au spec: http://www.aca.gov.au/database/radcomm/index.htm The 40 public UHF channels in Australia sit around 477 MHz, everything above and below this in the range you mentioned is covered either by 500 and 800 MHz upper and lower band spectrum licenses, as well as as a ton of 'Broadcast Services' and 'Land Mobile > 30MHz' licenses. Included in this is a lot of community TV stations and outback shire councils. To give you some idea of how many licenses sit in this space, the maximum range you can search for is 1 Mhz, or it returns too many results and refuses to display them. In some cases 0.1 MHz is the most you can search on. I'm guessing in America/Canada there would be even more licenses in that space. Ryan From eyal@eyal.emu.id.au Wed Dec 26 14:59:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from e4.eyal.emu.id.au (CPE-203-51-30-154.nsw.bigpond.net.au [203.51.30.154]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026CB4170 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2001 14:59:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from eyal.emu.id.au (eyal.emu.id.au [192.168.2.7]) by e4.eyal.emu.id.au (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id fBQMvEW25291 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 09:57:14 +1100 Message-ID: <3C2A55C8.A52A40E5@eyal.emu.id.au> Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 09:57:12 +1100 From: Eyal Lebedinsky Organization: Eyal at Home X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.17 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless list Subject: interesting article (nothing new though) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2001/12/19/BU44717.DTL -- Eyal Lebedinsky (eyal@eyal.emu.id.au) From rake_arora@yahoo.com Wed Dec 26 17:53:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from web14704.mail.yahoo.com (web14704.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.121]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4BB904242 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2001 17:53:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011227015140.30587.qmail@web14704.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.105.236.167] by web14704.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Dec 2001 17:51:40 PST Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 17:51:40 -0800 (PST) From: Rakesh Arora Subject: Help Help!! To: wireless@lists.samba.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I am trying to get my Orinoco Silver card talk to my AP (RG-1000) but I am unable to do so. My kernel is 2.4.16 and the pcmcia-cs version no is 3.1.29. The orinoco card is detected but somehow I can't set the ESSID using either iwconfig or wireless.opts. I had the same problem when I was using 2.4.12 and the inbuilt pcmcia support. I thought that having the newer version of pcmcia-cs would help but it doesn't. Is there any way that I can set the ESSID/BSSID? Can anyone please tell me how they set the essid? The output of iwconfig is as follows: eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"" Nickname:"localhost.localdomain" Frequency:2.457GHz Sensitivity:1/3 Mode:Managed Access Point: 00:00:00:00:00:00 Bit Rate:2Mb/s RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Encryption key:off Power Management:off Link quality:0/92 Signal level:134/153 Noise level:134/153 Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 Segmentation fault (core dumped) Any help that you can give will be highly appreciated. Thanks, rakesh __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com From brad@congosystems.com Thu Dec 27 14:20:14 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from mta01ps.bigpond.com (mta01ps.bigpond.com [144.135.25.133]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0854432 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 14:20:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from badnote ([144.135.25.69]) by mta01ps.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GP0WXJ00.02G for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 08:24:55 +1000 Received: from CPE-144-137-4-123.vic.bigpond.net.au ([144.137.4.123]) by PSMAM01.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V3.0h 65/1054526); 28 Dec 2001 08:17:59 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Brad Hubbard Reply-To: brad@congosystems.com Organization: Congo Systems To: wireless list Subject: 802.16 finalised Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 09:17:56 +1100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01122809175600.01276@badnote> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,3495522^15306^^nbv^,00.html Cheers, Brad From rake_arora@yahoo.com Thu Dec 27 18:06:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from web14707.mail.yahoo.com (web14707.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.124]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C44F4BAA for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:06:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011228020414.37940.qmail@web14707.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.167.221.12] by web14707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:04:14 PST Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:04:14 -0800 (PST) From: Rakesh Arora Subject: Help Help!! (Resolved) To: wireless@lists.samba.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Got this to work finally:) Doing 'iwpriv eth1 force_reset' after setting the essid made it work. Thanks for all your help. -rakesh --- Rakesh Arora wrote: > Hi, > I am trying to get my Orinoco Silver card talk > to my AP (RG-1000) but I am unable to do so. My > kernel > is 2.4.16 and the pcmcia-cs version no is 3.1.29. > The > orinoco card is detected but somehow I can't set the > ESSID using either iwconfig or wireless.opts. I had > the same problem when I was using 2.4.12 and the > inbuilt pcmcia support. I thought that having the > newer version of pcmcia-cs would help but it > doesn't. > Is there any way that I can set the ESSID/BSSID? Can > anyone please tell me how they set the essid? The > output of iwconfig is as follows: > > eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"" > Nickname:"localhost.localdomain" > Frequency:2.457GHz Sensitivity:1/3 Mode:Managed > > Access Point: 00:00:00:00:00:00 > Bit Rate:2Mb/s RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off > Encryption key:off > Power Management:off > Link quality:0/92 Signal level:134/153 Noise > level:134/153 > Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 > > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > > Any help that you can give will be highly > appreciated. > > Thanks, > rakesh __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com From jzurcher@netscape.net Fri Dec 28 22:05:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C811413B for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 22:05:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from jzurcher@netscape.net by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id v.2a.2a11709 (22686) for ; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 01:03:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from netscape.com (mow-m06.webmail.aol.com [64.12.184.134]) by air-in04.mx.aol.com (v82.22) with ESMTP id MAILININ47-1229010335; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 01:03:35 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 01:03:35 -0500 From: jzurcher@netscape.net (Jeff Zurcher) To: wireless@samba.org Subject: linux/wireless Message-ID: <5B862363.5269E048.00A25A61@netscape.net> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello I am new to the list, I am also new to linux and wireless. I am trying to set up a Linksys WPC11 on my laptop running mandrake 8.1 it appears that pcmcia cardmgr identifies the card properly, but the driver wvlan_cs doesnt recognise the card iwconfig eth0 looks ok, dmesg reports the correct MAC address for the card on one line and reports "Unrecognised card, card return vendor=0x0000, please report..." is there a way to let the driver know what card it is? Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thank you, Jeff -- __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ From bhards@bigpond.net.au Mon Dec 31 05:05:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from mta01ps.bigpond.com (mta01ps.bigpond.com [144.135.25.133]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8396D4D38 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 05:04:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from there ([144.135.25.69]) by mta01ps.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GP7LVL00.4QO; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 23:09:21 +1000 Received: from CPE-144-137-74-62.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([144.137.74.62]) by PSMAM01.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V3.0h 65/3518790); 31 Dec 2001 23:02:23 From: Brad Hards To: jt@hpl.hp.com Subject: First cut at wireless utils autoconf [patch] Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 21:04:42 +0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] Cc: wireless@samba.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_UNL72AR9KMZA9N6JES3H" Message-Id: <20011231130459.8396D4D38@lists.samba.org> Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --------------Boundary-00=_UNL72AR9KMZA9N6JES3H Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit G'day Jean, After some trouble with installing the wireless tools (mainly because I hadn't RTFM), I spent a few hours on learning about autoconf. The attached patch is provided for comment (in particular, will you accept a ./configure based system). I am not sure I properly understand what each of the defines is meant to accomplish, but it works for me (with 2.4.9 kernel, and glibc 2.2) It could definately use some more testing (hence, sent to wireless mailing list as well). If anyone finds problems, please send corrective patches. If you can't resolve it, please hold off sending mailbombs until after 21 Jan 2002, because I am on the wrong side of Australian to my ADSL link, working over a 28k8 modem at long-distance rates. To apply, you need to have wireless tools 22, and apply the patch. Then run autoconf to generate the configure script (would normally be run before packaging, but I didn't want the patch to be so large). Then just run the configure script and make. There is one configuration option that I have added for selecting whether to use the private wireless.h - see ./configure --help. ToDo: Ensure that it works with other kernels / libraries. Fix up the installation stuff (this patch just tries to address the header / defines problem). Add better installation documentation. 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Kasichainula To: jt@hpl.hp.com Cc: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: mini-PCI support for orinoco_cs Message-ID: <20020101032219.GA1708@samosa.chappati.org> Mail-Followup-To: Manoj Kasichainula , jt@hpl.hp.com, Samba/Wavelan mailing list References: <20011026221432.B1785@samosa.nojie.com> <20011029132130.H20748@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <20011110072703.GA1312@samosa.chappati.org> <20011114175651.A6210@bougret.hpl.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011114175651.A6210@bougret.hpl.hp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: OK, so I'm really slow :). I'll hopefully be free most of this week, so I'll be able to respond more quickly. On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 05:56:51PM -0800, Jean Tourrilhes wrote: > On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 11:27:03PM -0800, Manoj Kasichainula wrote: > > > > I got linux_wlan working, but not with WEP, which I need at work. It > > also seemed finicky and refused to work at many points. > > Interesting. > > > I still get the "Channel out of range" error: > > > > Nov 9 22:53:48 samosa kernel: eth1: Channel out of range (0)! > > Seen that. Probably firmware issue. Any suggestion as to how the driver should be fixed? My understanding is that channel settings are unnecessary for Managed mode anyway. > > Also, when I set a WEP key, connectivity dies. > > Have you tried the tcpdump trick ? > Also, try to set all 4 keys with keys of the same length (I > use to have this workaround in the driver but David got rid of it). > I think I needed both those things to get it working... I tried tcpdump by itself, and that didn't work. Then I iwconfiged all the keys to the same value (and thus the same length), and WEP now works for me. Woohoo! Any suggestions for how to automate these fixes in the driver? > > One more oddity is that when I try to use dhcpcd to get an address, I > > get in syslog: > > > > Nov 9 22:55:55 samosa dhcpcd[508]: infinite IP address lease time. Exiting > > > > This doesn't happen when I use my orinoco wireless PCMCIA card. > > Weird. That didn't happen to me when I tried it this time, though I happen to be at another place with a different NAT router running DHCP right now. Now, I get: Dec 31 22:15:46 samosa dhcpcd[1613]: DHCP_NAK server response received dhcpcd is still running, though. The only substantive differences i can think of between now and then are a new 2.4.17 kernel, and newer iwconfig. Is there a newer version of the driver for me to try out? Any hope that it'll get merged in with the main driver tree soon? :) Thanks very much for your help. From peter@systemsfusion.com Tue Jan 1 12:09:01 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail-1.dctr.sf.sysfusion.net (unknown [209.209.54.198]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E12D40FB for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 12:09:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.254.2] (helo=home.thenephilim.net) by mail-1.dctr.sf.sysfusion.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31 #3) id 16Lbki-00049G-00 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Tue, 01 Jan 2002 19:07:40 -0800 Subject: Intel AnyPoint II "PC card" From: Peter van Rensburg To: wireless@lists.samba.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.0.99+cvs.2001.12.12.09.00 (Preview Release) Date: 01 Jan 2002 12:06:31 -0800 Message-Id: <1009915592.682.6.camel@home.thenephilim.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi I'm unable to find any information on linux support (other than Intel's page saying there is no support, with some b$llsh$t market research reason.) for the AnyPoint II wireless cards. Btw if anyone is using this card with a Linksys WAP11, upgrade your firmware on the WAP11, doesn't work if you're not on atleast version 1.4g5 or there abouts. Is there any planned support for the AnyPoint II cards? Apologies if this is the wrong forum, I cannot find mention of it anywhere, perhaps someone can point me in the right direction. Cheers, Peter From kleptog@svana.org Tue Jan 1 21:54:32 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8B045AC for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 21:54:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16LeJi-0004rP-00; Wed, 02 Jan 2002 16:51:58 +1100 Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 16:51:58 +1100 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: Wireless List Subject: IBSS-adhoc interoperability is good! Message-ID: <20020102165158.B18621@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: We setup a small wireless network here using IBSS-Adhoc mode with some very different machines. 1. 486 with Orinoco Silver through ISA-PCMCIA bridge (wvlan_cs) 2. Windows 98 Laptop with Orinoco Silver 3. Linux Laptop with Netgear MA401 (orinoco_cs) 4. Titanium Powerbook with Airport Card And it all works fine. I must say, the Powerbook wins hands down for configuration. It autodetected the ESSID and pulled a DHCP address without blinking. And to all those naysayers saying it couldn't be done with the Powerbook, you were wrong. -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Terrorists can only take my life. Only my government can take my freedom. From grog@lemis.com Tue Jan 1 22:50:54 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from monorchid.lemis.com (monorchid.lemis.com [192.109.197.75]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D8904223 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 22:50:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by monorchid.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58C0678311; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 17:18:18 +1030 (CST) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 17:18:18 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Martijn van Oosterhout Cc: Wireless List Subject: Re: IBSS-adhoc interoperability is good! Message-ID: <20020102171818.A12254@monorchid.lemis.com> References: <20020102165158.B18621@svana.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020102165158.B18621@svana.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wednesday, 2 January 2002 at 16:51:58 +1100, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > We setup a small wireless network here using IBSS-Adhoc mode with some very > different machines. > > 1. 486 with Orinoco Silver through ISA-PCMCIA bridge (wvlan_cs) > 2. Windows 98 Laptop with Orinoco Silver > 3. Linux Laptop with Netgear MA401 (orinoco_cs) > 4. Titanium Powerbook with Airport Card > > And it all works fine. I must say, the Powerbook wins hands down for > configuration. It autodetected the ESSID and pulled a DHCP address without > blinking. > > And to all those naysayers saying it couldn't be done with the Powerbook, > you were wrong. Hmm. I haven't been able to connect Linux and FreeBSD with ad-hoc mode. Have you had any luck there? Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers From dgibson@samba.org Tue Jan 1 22:54:23 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id 04388422D; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 22:54:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 17:51:48 +1100 From: David Gibson To: Wireless List Subject: Re: IBSS-adhoc interoperability is good! Message-ID: <20020102065148.GH2574@zax> Mail-Followup-To: Wireless List References: <20020102165158.B18621@svana.org> <20020102171818.A12254@monorchid.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020102171818.A12254@monorchid.lemis.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 05:18:18PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Wednesday, 2 January 2002 at 16:51:58 +1100, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > > We setup a small wireless network here using IBSS-Adhoc mode with some very > > different machines. > > > > 1. 486 with Orinoco Silver through ISA-PCMCIA bridge (wvlan_cs) > > 2. Windows 98 Laptop with Orinoco Silver > > 3. Linux Laptop with Netgear MA401 (orinoco_cs) > > 4. Titanium Powerbook with Airport Card > > > > And it all works fine. I must say, the Powerbook wins hands down for > > configuration. It autodetected the ESSID and pulled a DHCP address without > > blinking. > > > > And to all those naysayers saying it couldn't be done with the Powerbook, > > you were wrong. > > Hmm. I haven't been able to connect Linux and FreeBSD with ad-hoc > mode. Have you had any luck there? Chances are that one end is using demo ad-hoc mode and the other is using IBSS mode, because of different defaults in the drivers. -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From kleptog@svana.org Wed Jan 2 00:18:50 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 685D74185 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 00:18:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16LgZG-0004vP-00; Wed, 02 Jan 2002 19:16:10 +1100 Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 19:16:10 +1100 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: Greg Lehey Cc: Wireless List Subject: Re: IBSS-adhoc interoperability is good! Message-ID: <20020102191610.A18906@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout References: <20020102165158.B18621@svana.org> <20020102171818.A12254@monorchid.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020102171818.A12254@monorchid.lemis.com>; from grog@lemis.com on Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 05:18:18PM +1030 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 05:18:18PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: > Hmm. I haven't been able to connect Linux and FreeBSD with ad-hoc > mode. Have you had any luck there? Well, I don't have any freebsd boxes, never have, so I can't answer directly. However, something to check would be the type of ad-hoc mode. There is IBSS-Adhoc mode and Ad-hoc demo mode and they are *not* compatable. Make sure you are using the same on each end. Matching essids and frequencies is good but it doesn't appear that the essid is critical. (I can talk to other machines that have a different essid). With the linux orinoco driver you use the iwpriv set_port3 to set the type. For freebsd I have no idea. HTH, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Terrorists can only take my life. Only my government can take my freedom. From jakob@free.fr Wed Jan 2 05:10:18 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from postfix2-2.free.fr (postfix2-2.free.fr [213.228.0.140]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10AB424D for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 05:10:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from imp1-2.free.fr (imp1-2.free.fr [213.228.0.151]) by postfix2-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3300A5F942; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 14:07:43 +0100 (CET) Received: by imp1-2.free.fr (Postfix, from userid 33) id 1AFD787436; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 14:07:43 +0100 (MET) To: wireless@lists.samba.org Message-ID: <1009976862.3c33061ed5b72@imp.free.fr> Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 14:07:42 +0100 (MET) From: Jakob MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.42 X-Originating-IP: 195.68.62.41 Subject: (no subject) Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I bought a couple of cheap PCMCIA adapters (Gigafast AEX-721) which are apparently prism II cards. I also bought a LinkSys PCI bridge, hoping to use it in a desktop machine, but they are not compatible (somewhere I read the LinkSys bridge is dumb). Are there other cheap PCI bridges that are compatbile with the type of card mentioned above? Living in France, I would also like to know if they can be purchased in France, or the EU. Thanks in advance, and happy new year, ------ Jakob. From dwg@au.ibm.com Wed Jan 2 15:09:57 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from haven.ozlabs.ibm.com (unknown [202.135.142.194]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A6CC4AAB for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 15:09:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by haven.ozlabs.ibm.com (Postfix, from userid 1010) id 278A71878B; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:07:21 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:07:21 +1100 From: David Gibson To: Wireless List Subject: Re: IBSS-adhoc interoperability is good! Message-ID: <20020102230721.GL2574@zax> Mail-Followup-To: Wireless List References: <20020102165158.B18621@svana.org> <20020102171818.A12254@monorchid.lemis.com> <20020102191610.A18906@svana.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020102191610.A18906@svana.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 07:16:10PM +1100, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 05:18:18PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: > > Hmm. I haven't been able to connect Linux and FreeBSD with ad-hoc > > mode. Have you had any luck there? > > Well, I don't have any freebsd boxes, never have, so I can't answer > directly. However, something to check would be the type of ad-hoc mode. > There is IBSS-Adhoc mode and Ad-hoc demo mode and they are *not* compatable. > Make sure you are using the same on each end. Matching essids and > frequencies is good but it doesn't appear that the essid is critical. (I can > talk to other machines that have a different essid). Well, matching frequencies and essids is critical (or should be), but the cards do have a tendency to autoselect frequencies and essid to find other cards. If you explicitly give to cards different essids they should not communicate - that's the whole point of essid. Are you sure they really have a different essid, or has one of them changed essid behind your back? Note that iwconfig will give misleading results for essid (and other things) if the interface is down. -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From dwg@au.ibm.com Wed Jan 2 15:10:01 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from haven.ozlabs.ibm.com (unknown [202.135.142.194]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D27EB4AB4 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 15:10:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by haven.ozlabs.ibm.com (Postfix, from userid 1010) id E64D117F32; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:07:21 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:04:46 +1100 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: (no subject) Message-ID: <20020102230446.GK2574@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <1009976862.3c33061ed5b72@imp.free.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1009976862.3c33061ed5b72@imp.free.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 02:07:42PM +0100, Jakob wrote: > > Hi, > > I bought a couple of cheap PCMCIA adapters (Gigafast AEX-721) which are > apparently prism II cards. > > I also bought a LinkSys PCI bridge, hoping to use it in a desktop machine, but > they are not compatible (somewhere I read the LinkSys bridge is dumb). It's very surprising that the LinkSys bridge doesn't work with the other cards, assuming they are Prism 2: the bridge is dumb, but these cards and the LinkSys cards should be almost identical. What makes you think they are not compatible? -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From WuB@AUSTRALIA.Stortek.com Wed Jan 2 22:52:17 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from cyclone.stortek.com (cyclone.stortek.com [129.80.22.130]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8484212 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 22:52:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from cyclone.stortek.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cyclone.stortek.com (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g036ngO23296 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 23:49:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from vinson-ether1.stortek.com (vinson.stortek.com [129.80.16.134]) by cyclone.stortek.com (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g036ngc23292 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 23:49:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from pacbridge.stortek.com (PacBridge.stortek.com [129.80.177.168]) by vinson-ether1.stortek.com (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g036nfZs014531 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 23:49:41 -0700 (MST) Received: by pacbridge.stortek.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:42:07 +1100 Message-ID: From: "Wu, Ben" To: "'wireless@lists.samba.org'" Subject: D-Link DWL-900AP - any good? Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:41:39 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Dear All, Anyone heard of the DWL-900APs? They support both Client AP AND bridging modes. Seems like there might be a PrismII chip in there or something... Anyway, they output 12.5dBm, which is not that high... I'm wondering how these would go with a 24dB gain directional parabolic antenna for a point-to-point link... They have a reverse SMA connector on them, which means a slightly cheaper pigtail than the Orinoco cards.. Regards Ben Wu From kleptog@svana.org Wed Jan 2 23:11:04 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CFBA4470 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 23:11:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16M1zG-0005yi-00; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 18:08:26 +1100 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 18:08:26 +1100 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: Wireless List Subject: Re: IBSS-adhoc interoperability is good! Message-ID: <20020103180826.B22692@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout References: <20020102165158.B18621@svana.org> <20020102171818.A12254@monorchid.lemis.com> <20020102191610.A18906@svana.org> <20020102230721.GL2574@zax> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020102230721.GL2574@zax>; from dgibson@ozlabs.au.ibm.com on Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 10:07:21AM +1100 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 10:07:21AM +1100, David Gibson wrote: > Well, matching frequencies and essids is critical (or should be), but > the cards do have a tendency to autoselect frequencies and essid to > find other cards. If you explicitly give to cards different essids > they should not communicate - that's the whole point of essid. Are > you sure they really have a different essid, or has one of them > changed essid behind your back? Note that iwconfig will give > misleading results for essid (and other things) if the interface is > down. I'm serious. I have set in my pcmcia/wireless.opts (iirc) file I set ESSID to "wireless" yet without changing any settings I can see and be seen by machines with the ESSID "rainmaker" (a powerbook, win98 laptop and a 486 linux one). iwconfig shows the essid as "wireless". In fact, the 486 I don't think sets it's ESSID at all (can't find a wireless-tools compiled for slink). If you want more details I can provide them. -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Terrorists can only take my life. Only my government can take my freedom. From prune@lecentre.net Thu Jan 3 00:28:01 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from bjork.admin.kapt.com (gatekeeper-ptx.kaptech.net [195.3.9.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2CB41A4 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 00:27:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from lecentre.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bjork.admin.kapt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD1886936; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 09:22:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3C3414D3.3020608@lecentre.net> Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 09:22:43 +0100 From: Prune User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Gibson Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: (no subject) References: <1009976862.3c33061ed5b72@imp.free.fr> <20020102230446.GK2574@zax> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060506000907060709070300" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --------------060506000907060709070300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, The linksys pci to pcmcia bridge only work with linksys pcmcia wavelan cards. I tried it with lucent gold and silver cards, without success. I'm pretty sure it's just a connexion to do/remove to remove the lock.... but don't know how at this time. If someone have a linksys card to sell or want to buy a pci bridge in france.... Cheers, Prune David Gibson wrote: >On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 02:07:42PM +0100, Jakob wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>I bought a couple of cheap PCMCIA adapters (Gigafast AEX-721) which are >>apparently prism II cards. >> >>I also bought a LinkSys PCI bridge, hoping to use it in a desktop machine, but >>they are not compatible (somewhere I read the LinkSys bridge is dumb). >> > >It's very surprising that the LinkSys bridge doesn't work with the >other cards, assuming they are Prism 2: the bridge is dumb, but these >cards and the LinkSys cards should be almost identical. > >What makes you think they are not compatible? > --------------060506000907060709070300 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi,

The linksys pci to pcmcia bridge only work with linksys pcmcia wavelan cards.
I tried it with lucent gold and silver cards, without success.
I'm pretty sure it's just a connexion to do/remove to remove the lock.... but don't know how at this time.

If someone have a linksys card to sell or want to buy a pci bridge in france....

Cheers,

Prune

David Gibson wrote:
On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 02:07:42PM +0100, Jakob wrote:
Hi,

I bought a couple of cheap PCMCIA adapters (Gigafast AEX-721) which are 
apparently prism II cards.

I also bought a LinkSys PCI bridge, hoping to use it in a desktop machine, but 
they are not compatible (somewhere I read the LinkSys bridge is dumb).

It's very surprising that the LinkSys bridge doesn't work with the
other cards, assuming they are Prism 2: the bridge is dumb, but these
cards and the LinkSys cards should be almost identical.

What makes you think they are not compatible?


--------------060506000907060709070300-- From diego@metropoli2000.com Thu Jan 3 05:10:52 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mx1.m2kcore.com (unknown [213.130.53.98]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1B44134 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 05:10:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.m2kcore.com (Postfix) with SMTP id DBE61DBD40 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:08:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from m2kdiego (mad-mail-1.m2kcore.com [213.194.151.84]) by mx1.m2kcore.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F810DBD3E for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:08:05 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Diego_Rin_Mart=EDn?= To: Subject: Hi all Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:08:19 +0100 Message-ID: <001601c19457$b7501930$0401a8c0@m2kdiego> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello * Here inetd from Spain, regards for all, happy new year and merry xmas. This is my first post to this list, in the description said that this is an australian wireless list, but is the only list about wireless that I found, so if you don=B4t mind I=B4ll stay and participate here. I=B4m starting a project with a few friends, we are going to wardrive the whole metropolitan area of Madrid looking for wireless networks and after that make a Madrid wireless map and a summary of wireless network security. A project in the way of WLAN Survey dis project by Shipley. I have a Compaq WL110 card and an omnidirectional antenna form Compaq too, after reading a bit I=B4m very confused about the card, my linux and windoze boxes detects the card as orinoco card, but read in any paper that Compaq=20 cards are Prism2 clones, please, can you say me what kind of card is the Compaq WL110? that this card can be used with Airsnort and wepcrack?. For the win32 platform I=B4m using Network Stumbler, but I don=B4t know = if there is any similar proggie for Linux/Unix/BSD platforms. Thanks in advance for the help and sorry for my poor english. Regards from Spain. inetd. From eric@eparsonage.com Thu Jan 3 14:13:28 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from everest.eparsonage.com (CPE-144-137-192-183.sa.bigpond.net.au [144.137.192.183]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 213904E11 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:13:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 35007 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2002 22:10:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO K2) (192.168.1.9) by everest.eparsonage.com with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 22:10:42 -0000 Message-ID: <0a2601c194a3$a2eff720$0901a8c0@eparsonage.com> From: "Eric Parsonage" To: Subject: Wireless in Adelaide Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 08:41:47 +1030 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0A23_01C194FB.A56D7240" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0A23_01C194FB.A56D7240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all I have just joined the mailing list and would like to know where the Adelaide group is at. How do I get involved ? what hardware are you all using ? where are you all geographically ? Eric Parsonage ------=_NextPart_000_0A23_01C194FB.A56D7240 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0A23_01C194FB.A56D7240-- From dwg@au.ibm.com Thu Jan 3 15:42:22 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from haven.ozlabs.ibm.com (unknown [202.135.142.194]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E964106 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:42:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by haven.ozlabs.ibm.com (Postfix, from userid 1010) id 4214617E19; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 10:39:42 +1100 (EST) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 10:35:58 +1100 From: David Gibson To: Wireless List Subject: Re: IBSS-adhoc interoperability is good! Message-ID: <20020103233558.GS2574@zax> Mail-Followup-To: Wireless List References: <20020102165158.B18621@svana.org> <20020102171818.A12254@monorchid.lemis.com> <20020102191610.A18906@svana.org> <20020102230721.GL2574@zax> <20020103180826.B22692@svana.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020103180826.B22692@svana.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 06:08:26PM +1100, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 10:07:21AM +1100, David Gibson wrote: > > Well, matching frequencies and essids is critical (or should be), but > > the cards do have a tendency to autoselect frequencies and essid to > > find other cards. If you explicitly give to cards different essids > > they should not communicate - that's the whole point of essid. Are > > you sure they really have a different essid, or has one of them > > changed essid behind your back? Note that iwconfig will give > > misleading results for essid (and other things) if the interface is > > down. > > I'm serious. I have set in my pcmcia/wireless.opts (iirc) file I set ESSID > to "wireless" yet without changing any settings I can see and be seen by > machines with the ESSID "rainmaker" (a powerbook, win98 laptop and a > 486 Ok, but do the machines still show different essids after they've talked? > linux one). iwconfig shows the essid as "wireless". In fact, the 486 I don't > think sets it's ESSID at all (can't find a wireless-tools compiled for > slink). ...and if you're not setting it, it will be "auto" and look for the essid of other nearby machines. -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From dwg@au.ibm.com Thu Jan 3 16:02:29 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from haven.ozlabs.ibm.com (unknown [202.135.142.196]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C154106 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:02:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by haven.ozlabs.ibm.com (Postfix, from userid 1010) id 9EEA717E19; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 10:59:48 +1100 (EST) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 10:59:51 +1100 From: David Gibson To: Manoj Kasichainula , jt@hpl.hp.com, Samba/Wavelan mailing list Subject: Re: mini-PCI support for orinoco_cs Message-ID: <20020103235951.GU2574@zax> Mail-Followup-To: Manoj Kasichainula , jt@hpl.hp.com, Samba/Wavelan mailing list References: <20011026221432.B1785@samosa.nojie.com> <20011029132130.H20748@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <20011110072703.GA1312@samosa.chappati.org> <20011114175651.A6210@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <20020101032219.GA1708@samosa.chappati.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020101032219.GA1708@samosa.chappati.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 10:22:19PM -0500, Manoj Kasichainula wrote: > OK, so I'm really slow :). I'll hopefully be free most of this week, > so I'll be able to respond more quickly. > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 05:56:51PM -0800, Jean Tourrilhes wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 11:27:03PM -0800, Manoj Kasichainula wrote: > > > > > > I got linux_wlan working, but not with WEP, which I need at work. It > > > also seemed finicky and refused to work at many points. > > > > Interesting. > > > > > I still get the "Channel out of range" error: > > > > > > Nov 9 22:53:48 samosa kernel: eth1: Channel out of range (0)! > > > > Seen that. Probably firmware issue. > > Any suggestion as to how the driver should be fixed? My understanding > is that channel settings are unnecessary for Managed mode anyway. Not really - it's essentially a cosmetic bug. The firmware is giving us a value for the current channel that we don't understand. I can't fix it until I know what it actually means. > > > Also, when I set a WEP key, connectivity dies. > > > > Have you tried the tcpdump trick ? > > Also, try to set all 4 keys with keys of the same length (I > > use to have this workaround in the driver but David got rid of it). > > I think I needed both those things to get it working... > > I tried tcpdump by itself, and that didn't work. Then I iwconfiged all > the keys to the same value (and thus the same length), and WEP now > works for me. Woohoo! > Any suggestions for how to automate these fixes in the driver? I thought I had reinstated the workaround for this bug. Maybe not.... which driver version are you using? > > > One more oddity is that when I try to use dhcpcd to get an address, I > > > get in syslog: > > > > > > Nov 9 22:55:55 samosa dhcpcd[508]: infinite IP address lease time. Exiting > > > > > > This doesn't happen when I use my orinoco wireless PCMCIA card. > > > > Weird. > > That didn't happen to me when I tried it this time, though I happen to > be at another place with a different NAT router running DHCP right > now. Now, I get: > > Dec 31 22:15:46 samosa dhcpcd[1613]: DHCP_NAK server response received > > dhcpcd is still running, though. That is almost certainly not a driver problem. A DHCP_NAK means that you received a response from the dhcp server explicitly denying the dhcp request. This indicates a higher level configuration problem. Check the logs on the dhcp server to see if it indicates why it is denying the request. -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From grog@lemis.com Thu Jan 3 16:02:37 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (unknown [192.109.197.80]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD344106 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:02:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C21A7821B; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 10:29:45 +1030 (CST) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 10:29:45 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Eric Parsonage Cc: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: Wireless in Adelaide Message-ID: <20020104102945.B41655@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <0a2601c194a3$a2eff720$0901a8c0@eparsonage.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0a2601c194a3$a2eff720$0901a8c0@eparsonage.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Friday, 4 January 2002 at 8:41:47 +1030, Eric Parsonage wrote: > Hi all > > I have just joined the mailing list and would like to know where the > Adelaide group is at. How do I get involved ? what hardware are you > all using ? where are you all geographically ? I'm in Echunga. I don't think anybody has an outside link up and running. I'm planning a talk on wireless networking at the March AUUG-SA meeting. See http://www.sa.auug.org.au/ for further details. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers From julian@mediumrare.net Thu Jan 3 16:27:05 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.lateral.net (unknown [195.224.94.178]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F774727 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:27:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lateral.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4362DE322C; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 00:26:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lateral.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lateral.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B00EE3221 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 00:25:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 202.138.31.166 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mrjulian) by webmail.lateral.net with HTTP; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 00:25:59 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <1024.202.138.31.166.1010103959.squirrel@webmail.lateral.net> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 00:25:59 -0000 (GMT) Subject: any chance of a link? From: "Julian Priest" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Reply-To: julian@mediumrare.net X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.0.6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by Sophos/AMaViS Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi there, i am one of the co-founders of consume.net a london based free wireless group, currently travelling in australia and hopefullly passing through canberra over the weekend. I was wondering if i might be able to make a connection early on sunday morning (1am-10am) and monday morning (5am onwards)? There is a summit of free wireless groups in seatle hosted by seatle wireless and personaltelco which i would like to part in somehow. Apparently some kind of stream is being set up and it would be great to pick it up over a local community wireless group! cheers julian From kleptog@svana.org Thu Jan 3 16:33:09 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C1624253 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:33:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16MIFj-0006n8-00; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 11:30:31 +1100 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 11:30:31 +1100 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: Wireless List Subject: Re: IBSS-adhoc interoperability is good! Message-ID: <20020104113031.A25915@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout References: <20020102165158.B18621@svana.org> <20020102171818.A12254@monorchid.lemis.com> <20020102191610.A18906@svana.org> <20020102230721.GL2574@zax> <20020103180826.B22692@svana.org> <20020103233558.GS2574@zax> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020103233558.GS2574@zax>; from dgibson@ozlabs.au.ibm.com on Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 10:35:58AM +1100 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 10:35:58AM +1100, David Gibson wrote: > On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 06:08:26PM +1100, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > > I'm serious. I have set in my pcmcia/wireless.opts (iirc) file I set ESSID > > to "wireless" yet without changing any settings I can see and be seen by > > machines with the ESSID "rainmaker" (a powerbook, win98 laptop and a > > 486 > > Ok, but do the machines still show different essids after they've > talked? Well, on my laptop iwconfig definitly still shows "wireless". I'm assuming here that iwconfig reads the actual value from the card and not what it was last set to. > > linux one). iwconfig shows the essid as "wireless". In fact, the 486 I don't > > think sets it's ESSID at all (can't find a wireless-tools compiled for > > slink). > > ...and if you're not setting it, it will be "auto" and look for the > essid of other nearby machines. Ok, so that would explain why the 486 works. Actually, without iwconfig I can't even set the 486 to ad-hoc mode or set the frequency. The default IIRC is managed mode so it's suprising it works at all (though maybe wvlan_cs is different, never used it before). No, I have not done anything with module options either, cardmgr is defaulting to insmod :(. When I get home tonight I will see if I can reproduce the behaviour between my laptop & desktop. BTW, have you considered adding iwconfig mode ad-hoc-ibss and iwconfig mode ad-hoc-demo? And have the iwconfig output display which it is using? I was looking at adding it but there doesn't seem to be a consistant interface between cards. I also have a small patch that adds /etc/ethers support to iwspy. Interested? HTH, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Terrorists can only take my life. Only my government can take my freedom. From rls@powerband.net.au Thu Jan 3 16:42:05 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from archangel.cluefactory.com.au (unknown [150.101.95.161]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6845441A3 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:42:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from AMS-Client by AMS with ESMTP id g040dOl75990; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 11:39:25 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <3C34F9FB.9010403@powerband.net.au> Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 11:10:27 +1030 From: Richard Siggs Organization: The Clue Factory User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.6) Gecko/20011120 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Parsonage Cc: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: Wireless in Adelaide References: <0a2601c194a3$a2eff720$0901a8c0@eparsonage.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Eric, Eric Parsonage wrote: > I have just joined the mailing list and would like to know where the > Adelaide group is at. How do I get involved ? what hardware are you > all using ? where are you all geographically ? I missed out "raising my dib" last time Adelaide's wireless networking was mentioned on the list. I'm in the Grange area & have 2 spare point-to-point 2meg wireless setup available if you know of anyone who'd like to link up in the area bounded by Henley Beach Rd, Tapleys Hill Rd & Trimmer Pde!? Also got an 802.11b node up, so if you ever find yourself walking Grange Beach with a lappy or pda, please don't try to airsnort me ;-) > Eric Parsonage How about a Coffee / Lunch / Dinner with other interested Adelaidian Wireless Users? Anyone else interested? Cheers, Richard. -- Richard Siggs / 0414 882 225 / rls@powerband.net.au "They attack without provocation.. Animals! No Mercy, Persue them to their bases, Kill them All! No Mercy, No Mercy!" - Babylon5. - Delenn, Minbari, immediately following the death of Dukat. From julian@mediumrare.net Thu Jan 3 16:57:54 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.lateral.net (unknown [195.224.94.178]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB144C61 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:57:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lateral.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7AD2E326B; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 00:56:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lateral.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lateral.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9DE68E3230 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 00:56:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 202.138.31.166 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mrjulian) by webmail.lateral.net with HTTP; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 00:56:49 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <1024.202.138.31.166.1010105809.squirrel@webmail.lateral.net> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 00:56:49 -0000 (GMT) Subject: [Fwd: any chance of a link?] From: "Julian Priest" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Reply-To: julian@mediumrare.net X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.0.6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by Sophos/AMaViS Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi there, i am one of the co-founders of consume.net a london based free wireless group, currently travelling in australia and hopefullly passing through canberra over the weekend. I was wondering if i might be able to make a connection early on sunday morning (1am-10am) and monday morning (5am onwards)? There is a summit of free wireless groups in seatle hosted by seatle wireless and personaltelco which i would like to take part in somehow. Apparently some kind of stream or viop thing is being set up and it would be great to pick it up over a local community wireless group. I didn't see a node map or database of locations in canberra so i guess i'd need a location and some connection details. hope we can work something out.. cheers julian From jtwheare@ihug.com.au Thu Jan 3 19:48:05 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from new-smtp1.ihug.com.au (new-smtp1.ihug.com.au [203.109.250.27]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B3B64354 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 19:48:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.8] (p33-max4.adl.ihug.com.au [203.173.185.97]) by new-smtp1.ihug.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA18093; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 14:44:45 +1100 X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp1.ihug.com.au: Host p33-max4.adl.ihug.com.au [203.173.185.97] claimed to be [192.168.1.8] Subject: Re: Wireless in Adelaide From: Jon To: eric@eparsonage.com Cc: "wireless list." In-Reply-To: <20020104102945.B41655@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <0a2601c194a3$a2eff720$0901a8c0@eparsonage.com> <20020104102945.B41655@wantadilla.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 04 Jan 2002 14:15:49 +1030 Message-Id: <1010116051.1487.6.camel@beastly> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, 2002-01-04 at 10:29, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Friday, 4 January 2002 at 8:41:47 +1030, Eric Parsonage wrote: > > Hi all > > > > I have just joined the mailing list and would like to know where the > > Adelaide group is at. How do I get involved ? what hardware are you > > all using ? where are you all geographically ? There is another page on wireless in Adelaide at: http://wansa.dhs.org/ this includes a node database, unfortunatelty most are still waiting with a few in the build phase. At least one node seems to be testing though. Jonathan Wheare. From jamzb@staff.airnet.com.au Thu Jan 3 21:37:23 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from RUBY.staff.airnet.com.au (ruby.staff.airnet.com.au [202.174.32.72]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E2394604 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 21:37:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: RE: Wireless in Adelaide Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 16:02:42 +1030 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Wireless in Adelaide content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4417.0 Thread-Index: AcGU0igbFnE846pTQByDizdBPfotlwADnSxQ From: "Jamz D. Boman" To: "wireless list." Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Guys, Remember if you are not a licensed telecommunications carrier, you should be careful not to violate the ACA no longer than 500 metre rule, and not cross any property boundaries... or not get caught. This is why most grass roots free user-maintained networks don't get off the ground, because they discover that its illegal. http://www.aca.gov.au/index/default.htm=20 Cheers, Jamz. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon [mailto:jtwheare@ihug.com.au] > Sent: Friday, 4 January 2002 2:16 PM > To: eric@eparsonage.com > Cc: wireless list. > Subject: Re: Wireless in Adelaide > Importance: Low >=20 > On Fri, 2002-01-04 at 10:29, Greg Lehey wrote: > > On Friday, 4 January 2002 at 8:41:47 +1030, Eric Parsonage wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > > > I have just joined the mailing list and would like to know where the > > > Adelaide group is at. How do I get involved ? what hardware are you > > > all using ? where are you all geographically ? >=20 > There is another page on wireless in Adelaide at: > http://wansa.dhs.org/ >=20 > this includes a node database, unfortunatelty most are still waiting > with a few in the build phase. At least one node seems to be testing > though. >=20 > Jonathan Wheare. >=20 From MF180802@Exchange.Australia.NCR.COM Thu Jan 3 21:42:22 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from sausyd003.Australia.NCR.COM (tan7.ncr.com [192.127.94.7]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4CF4106 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 21:42:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by sausyd003.australia.ncr.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 16:39:41 +1100 Message-ID: From: "Fox, Michael" To: "Jamz D. Boman" , "wireless list." Subject: RE: Wireless in Adelaide Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 16:39:38 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I wasn't aware of that... so having a link between two friends which is greater then 500m and passes through/across property boundaries other then our own is illegal? thats a bummer > -----Original Message----- > From: Jamz D. Boman [mailto:jamzb@staff.airnet.com.au] > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 3:33 PM > To: wireless list. > Subject: RE: Wireless in Adelaide > > > Guys, > Remember if you are not a licensed telecommunications carrier, > you should be careful not to violate the ACA no longer than 500 metre > rule, and not cross any property boundaries... or not get caught. > > This is why most grass roots free user-maintained networks > don't get off > the ground, because they discover that its illegal. > > http://www.aca.gov.au/index/default.htm > From Matthew.Wright@bridge.com Thu Jan 3 21:49:03 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from bcfw1d.bridge.com (bcfw1d.ext.bridge.com [167.76.159.31]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B96347EA for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 21:49:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by bcfw1d.bridge.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) id g045lnc04048 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 23:47:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from (unknown [167.76.56.34]) by bcfw1d via smap (V2.1) id xma003990; Thu, 3 Jan 02 23:47:38 -0600 Received: from eximcx2.bridge.com (eximcx2.bridge.com [167.76.56.15]) by mail1srv.bridge.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA00600 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 23:46:33 -0600 (CST) Received: by eximcx2.bridge.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 23:46:39 -0600 Message-ID: <91836B659EA6D311BA4F00C04F645598FF0377@exchmel2.bridge.com> From: "Wright, Matthew" To: "'wireless@samba.org'" Subject: RE: Wireless in Adelaide Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 23:45:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I think things are being a little misconstrued here. Basically it is illegal to be a third party carrier. However if a cooperative of people as a cooperative produced a network for use of the cooperative (and not 3rd parties) Then the communications act is not being contravened. There is nothing about property boundaries. (Universities have private unlicensed links between campuses. (This is in addition to their long haul licensed links). I hope this helps allays peoples fears and that no one is scare mongered into not playing with this technology. Matt -----Original Message----- From: Fox, Michael [mailto:MF180802@Exchange.Australia.NCR.COM] Sent: Friday, 4 January 2002 4:40 PM To: Jamz D. Boman; wireless list. Subject: RE: Wireless in Adelaide I wasn't aware of that... so having a link between two friends which is greater then 500m and passes through/across property boundaries other then our own is illegal? thats a bummer > -----Original Message----- > From: Jamz D. Boman [mailto:jamzb@staff.airnet.com.au] > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 3:33 PM > To: wireless list. > Subject: RE: Wireless in Adelaide > > > Guys, > Remember if you are not a licensed telecommunications carrier, > you should be careful not to violate the ACA no longer than 500 metre > rule, and not cross any property boundaries... or not get caught. > > This is why most grass roots free user-maintained networks > don't get off > the ground, because they discover that its illegal. > > http://www.aca.gov.au/index/default.htm > From jason@air.net.au Thu Jan 3 22:02:19 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from river.redflex.com.au (mail.redflex.com.au [203.63.133.169]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B38A94106 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 22:02:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from jasonh.air.net.au (rcs-125.comm-systems.redflex.com.au [192.168.88.125]) by river.redflex.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA31918; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:48:16 +1100 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020104165422.00b3e3e8@mailhub.air.net.au> X-Sender: jason@mailhub.air.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 16:58:51 +1100 To: wireless@lists.samba.org From: Jason Hecker Subject: Cheap 802.11b cards Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: A bulk buy order is going out next week for Senao and Tellus wireless 802.11b cards. Check it out here: http://gwizz.yi.org/wirelesslan They are cheap compared to local (.au) prices. From jamzb@staff.airnet.com.au Thu Jan 3 22:09:29 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from RUBY.staff.airnet.com.au (ruby.staff.airnet.com.au [202.174.32.72]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA1C4106 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 22:09:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: RE: Wireless in Adelaide Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 16:34:48 +1030 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4417.0 Thread-Topic: Wireless in Adelaide Thread-Index: AcGU4wx427MxhowFThyv7aIBvCEe+AAAmt5g From: "Jamz D. Boman" To: Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Guys, Remember if you aren't a telecommunications carrier you can't: * supply anyone with access to the Internet over a privately owned line link, regardless of who owns each end of the link, unless it is covered by a nominated carrier declaration, or indeed if the private owner of the link is a carrier (see below); or * link two seperate houses together for any use whatsoever, Internet access or not (see Section 44 3(c)(i) below). http://scaleplus.law.gov.au/html/pasteact/2/3021/0/PA000530.htm TELECOMMUNICATIONS ACT 1997 - SECT 42 Network unit not to be used without carrier licence or nominated=20 carrier declaration=20 (1) If there is only one owner of a network unit, the owner of the network unit must not use the unit, either alone or jointly with one or more other persons, to supply a carriage service to the public, unless: (a) the owner holds a carrier licence; or=20 (b) a nominated carrier declaration is in force in relation to the unit.=20 (2) If there is only one owner of a network unit, the owner of the network unit must not allow or permit another person to use the unit to supply a carriage service to the public unless: (a) the owner holds a carrier licence; or=20 (b) a nominated carrier declaration is in force in relation to the unit.=20 (3) If there are 2 or more owners of a network unit, an owner of the network unit must not use the unit, either alone or jointly with one or more other persons, to supply a carriage service to the public, unless: (a) the owner holds a carrier licence; or=20 (b) a nominated carrier declaration is in force in relation to the unit.=20 (4) If there are 2 or more owners of a network unit, an owner of the network unit must not, either alone or together with one or more other owners, allow or permit another person to use the unit to supply a carriage service to the public unless: (a) the owner holds a carrier licence; or=20 (b) a nominated carrier declaration is in force in relation to the unit.=20 (5) A person who intentionally or recklessly contravenes subsection (1), (2), (3) or (4) is guilty of an offence punishable on conviction by a fine not exceeding 20,000 penalty units. Note: See also sections 4AA and 4B of the Crimes Act 1914.=20 http://scaleplus.law.gov.au/html/pasteact/2/3021/0/PA000540.htm TELECOMMUNICATIONS ACT 1997 - SECT 43 Continuing offences A person who contravenes section 42 is guilty of a separate offence in respect of each day (including a day of a conviction under this section or any later day) during which the contravention continues. http://scaleplus.law.gov.au/html/pasteact/2/3021/0/PA000550.htm TELECOMMUNICATIONS ACT 1997 - SECT 44 Supply to the public (1) This section sets out the circumstances in which a network unit is taken, for the purposes of section 42, to be used to supply a carriage service to the public. (2) If:=20 (a) there is only one owner of a network unit; and (b) no nominated carrier declaration is in force in relation to the unit; and=20 (c) any of the following conditions is satisfied:=20 (i) the unit is used for the carriage of communications between 2 end-users, where each end-user is outside the immediate circle of the owner of the unit; =20 (ii) the unit is used to supply point-to-multipoint services to end-users, where at least one end-user is outside the immediate circle of the owner of the unit; (iii) the unit is used to supply designated content services (other than point-to-multipoint services) to one or more end-users, where at least one end-user is outside the immediate circle of the owner of the unit; the unit is used to supply a carriage service to the public. (3) If:=20 (a) there are 2 or more owners of a network unit; and=20 (b) no nominated carrier declaration is in force in relation to the unit; and=20 (c) any of the following conditions is satisfied:=20 (i) the unit is used for the carriage of communications between 2 end-users, where each end-user is outside the overlap of the immediate circles of the owners of the unit; (ii) the unit is used to supply point-to-multipoint services to end-users, where at least one end-user is outside the overlap of the immediate circles of the owners of the unit; (iii) the unit is used to supply designated content services (other than point-to-multipoint services) to one or more end-users, where at least one end-user is outside the overlap of the immediate circles of the owners of the unit; the unit is used to supply a carriage service to the public. the unit is used to supply a carriage service to the public. (4) If:=20 (a) a nominated carrier declaration is in force in relation to a network unit; and=20 (b) any of the following conditions is satisfied:=20 (i) the unit is used for the carriage of communications between 2 end-users, where each end-user is outside the immediate circle of the nominated carrier in relation to the unit; (ii) the unit is used to supply point-to-multipoint services to end-users, where at least one end-user is outside the immediate circle of the nominated carrier in relation to the unit; (iii) the unit is used to supply designated content services (other than point-to-multipoint services) to one or more end-users, where at least one end-user is outside the immediate circle of the nominated carrier in relation to the unit; the unit is used to supply a carriage service to the public. (5) For the purposes of this section, a person is outside the overlap of the immediate circles of the owners of a network unit unless the person is: (a) within the immediate circles of each of the owners of the unit; or=20 (b) the owner, or one of the owners, of the unit.=20 (6) For the purposes of this section, a designated content service is a content service of a kind specified in a written determination made by the Minister. (7) A determination under subsection (6) is a disallowable instrument for the purposes of section 46A of the Acts Interpretation Act 1901. And THESE are the exemptions under the law: Defence http://scaleplus.law.gov.au/html/pasteact/2/3021/0/PA000560.htm Intelligence (ASIS / ASIO) http://scaleplus.law.gov.au/html/pasteact/2/3021/0/PA000570.htm Transport Authorities http://scaleplus.law.gov.au/html/pasteact/2/3021/0/PA000580.htm Broadcasting Services http://scaleplus.law.gov.au/html/pasteact/2/3021/0/PA000590.htm Electricity Supply Bodies http://scaleplus.law.gov.au/html/pasteact/2/3021/0/PA000590.htm Line links authorised by or under previous laws http://scaleplus.law.gov.au/html/pasteact/2/3021/0/PA000610.htm > -----Original Message----- > From: Wright, Matthew [mailto:Matthew.Wright@bridge.com] > Sent: Friday, 4 January 2002 4:16 PM > To: 'wireless@samba.org' > Subject: RE: Wireless in Adelaide > Importance: Low >=20 > I think things are being a little misconstrued here. Basically it is > illegal to be a third party carrier. >=20 > However if a cooperative of people as a cooperative produced a network for > use of the cooperative (and not 3rd parties) >=20 > Then the communications act is not being contravened. There is nothing > about property boundaries. >=20 > (Universities have private unlicensed links between campuses. (This is in > addition to their long haul licensed links). >=20 > I hope this helps allays peoples fears and that no one is scare mongered > into not playing with this technology. >=20 > Matt >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Fox, Michael [mailto:MF180802@Exchange.Australia.NCR.COM] > Sent: Friday, 4 January 2002 4:40 PM > To: Jamz D. Boman; wireless list. > Subject: RE: Wireless in Adelaide >=20 >=20 > I wasn't aware of that... so having a link between two friends which is > greater then 500m and passes through/across property boundaries other then > our own is illegal? thats a bummer >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jamz D. Boman [mailto:jamzb@staff.airnet.com.au] > > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 3:33 PM > > To: wireless list. > > Subject: RE: Wireless in Adelaide > > > > > > Guys, > > Remember if you are not a licensed telecommunications carrier, > > you should be careful not to violate the ACA no longer than 500 metre > > rule, and not cross any property boundaries... or not get caught. > > > > This is why most grass roots free user-maintained networks > > don't get off > > the ground, because they discover that its illegal. > > > > http://www.aca.gov.au/index/default.htm > > From jamzb@staff.airnet.com.au Thu Jan 3 23:21:14 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from RUBY.staff.airnet.com.au (ruby.staff.airnet.com.au [202.174.32.72]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E7B4BE7 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 23:21:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: RE: Wireless in Adelaide Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:46:34 +1030 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4417.0 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Wireless in Adelaide Thread-Index: AcGU4wx427MxhowFThyv7aIBvCEe+AADDClQ From: "Jamz D. Boman" To: "Wright, Matthew" , Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > -----Original Message----- > From: Wright, Matthew [mailto:Matthew.Wright@bridge.com] > Sent: Friday, 4 January 2002 4:16 PM > To: 'wireless@samba.org' > Subject: RE: Wireless in Adelaide > Importance: Low >=20 > (Universities have private unlicensed links between campuses. (This is in > addition to their long haul licensed links). The reason that Universities can do it is because they have an exemption in the "Immediate Circle" definition in Section 23.1.(m) of the Telco Act. http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s23.html#imm ediate_circle Cheers, Jamz. =20 From rls@powerband.net.au Fri Jan 4 02:09:59 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from archangel.cluefactory.com.au (unknown [150.101.95.161]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F71B4E25 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 02:09:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from AMS-Client by AMS with ESMTP id g049Njl05029; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 20:23:46 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <3C3574DF.90203@powerband.net.au> Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 19:54:47 +1030 From: Richard Siggs Organization: The Clue Factory User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.6) Gecko/20011120 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Fox, Michael" Cc: "Jamz D. Boman" , "wireless list." Subject: Re: Wireless in Adelaide References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: [ Disclaimer: this contains diatribe "in the Spirit of Ross". Oz ISP Owners & longterm List Readers will know what I mean :] Fox, Michael wrote: > I wasn't aware of that... so having a link between two friends which is > greater then 500m and passes through/across property boundaries other then > our own is illegal? thats a bummer Kinda a bummer - as while the law is L.A.W., if the ACA ever came after the small # of hobbyists or friends in each city who are really using wireless networking, then there's a massive abuse happening within the ACA, as they've got _waaay_ bigger fish to fry.. [ don't get me started on that one.. >:] So, like Matthew mentioned, don't let idle-hands at Telcos put you off from firing up a link! Knowing of many ISPs that use wireless ptp links for customers & even that legendary battle in Qld, where the championed ACA didn't even stop blatant commercial breaches of the Act; I don't have a problem firing up a link from my house to someone else's house in the 'burbs to link LANs & frag eachother or backup eachothers filesystems or share OS Repositories, etc.. Seriously though too; there sure isn't any problem being presented to a commercial ISP through this scale of Community Wireless Data Networking being done in the 'burbs of Australian cities! I mean that in the vast majority of the places where these networks are being deployed, you couldn't get such data interconnects even through the available metro Telcos. What's more, if one of these networks got to the point where it did challenge an ISP or Telco's business opportunity, I'm sure that it'd be usurped by business interests before long anyway, without the ACA needing to bat an eyelid. (oh yes, that needs a :-) Let's "get real" about what's being talked about here & encourage, rather than stifle, people to get interested in the media & plug'n'play. Stiff Shit(tm), if they actually manage to get a few 2 or ~8meg links going between some houses in the 'burbs. Sell 'em your 2nd hand/used /5-yr-old Telco gear. Shout 'em a barbie, gawd knows they'd need to get out & about. To quote: *sheesh* :-) Frankly, instead of trying to quell knowledge & use of wireless networking technology, it would seem astute for these idle hands to encourage exposure to this media, as it's these 'hobbyist' / Community activities that will spread familiarity & demonstrate the validity of the technology more than any current marketing budget or campaign to get business to move from wired to unwired connectivity. Which is what's needed in the next few years for wireless networking to prosper.. *Rich gets off his soapbox now* [ Having experience in Wireless R&D, I know how hard it is to find clueful people in wireless data networking, even during these times of "high staff availability" that the Data Networking sector of the IT Industry is going through. Hopefully mNet (www.mnetcorporation.com) could help that situation, in Adelaide at the very least.. :] Finally, I was "warned" about speaking up regarding Community Wireless Networking in Adelaide, lest it raise the ire of local wireless-spruking Telcos in Adelaide. (point proven ;-) Link Up, Richard. -- Richard Siggs / 0414 882 225 / rls@powerband.net.au "They attack without provocation.. Animals! No Mercy. Persue them to their bases. Kill them All! No Mercy, No Mercy!" - Delenn, B5. - babylon5.warnerbros.com >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Jamz D. Boman [mailto:jamzb@staff.airnet.com.au] >>Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 3:33 PM >>To: wireless list. >>Subject: RE: Wireless in Adelaide >> >> >>Guys, >> Remember if you are not a licensed telecommunications carrier, >>you should be careful not to violate the ACA no longer than 500 metre >>rule, and not cross any property boundaries... or not get caught. >> >>This is why most grass roots free user-maintained networks >>don't get off >>the ground, because they discover that its illegal. >> >>http://www.aca.gov.au/index/default.htm From manoj@io.com Fri Jan 4 02:12:03 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from samosa.chappati.org (rdu162-255-063.nc.rr.com [24.162.255.63]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD54F4E37 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 02:12:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by samosa.chappati.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 86344127193; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 04:15:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 04:15:52 -0500 From: Manoj Kasichainula To: Samba/Wavelan mailing list Cc: jt@hpl.hp.com Subject: Re: mini-PCI support for orinoco_cs Message-ID: <20020104091551.GA1268@samosa.chappati.org> Mail-Followup-To: Manoj Kasichainula , Samba/Wavelan mailing list , jt@hpl.hp.com References: <20011026221432.B1785@samosa.nojie.com> <20011029132130.H20748@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <20011110072703.GA1312@samosa.chappati.org> <20011114175651.A6210@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <20020101032219.GA1708@samosa.chappati.org> <20020103235951.GU2574@zax> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020103235951.GU2574@zax> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 10:59:51AM +1100, David Gibson wrote: > I thought I had reinstated the workaround for this bug. Maybe > not.... which driver version are you using? From the c file: /* orinoco_pci.c 0.01 orinoco2.c is between 0.08a and 0.08b. ConMakPCI.diff was edited on Oct. 24th, and orinoco2.c on Oct. 19th. > On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 10:22:19PM -0500, Manoj Kasichainula wrote: > > That didn't happen to me when I tried it this time, though I happen to > > be at another place with a different NAT router running DHCP right > > now. Now, I get: > > > > Dec 31 22:15:46 samosa dhcpcd[1613]: DHCP_NAK server response received > > > > dhcpcd is still running, though. > > That is almost certainly not a driver problem. For some reason (having changed basically nothing), that repeatable problem, and my earlier repeatable DHCP problem, are no longer repeatable. Basically, the two problems I have now are the need to iwconfig all 4 key slots, and that I'm getting lots of BAP writing errors, looking like: Jan 3 19:02:12 samosa kernel: eth1: Error -110 writing packet header to BAP Jan 3 19:02:12 samosa last message repeated 228 times These cause occasional freezes, especially when the watchdog timer has to detect the problem and reset. The BAP errors are why I'm interested in a port of the newer driver code; I see notes about those being fixed there, and I know that newer drivers fixed these problems for my PCMCIA card a while back. But, other than these, the built-in wireless is working quite well now. Thanks for all your help. From Markus.Jakob@eei.ericsson.se Fri Jan 4 09:08:17 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from albatross-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se (albatross-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [194.237.142.116]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B984D69 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 09:08:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from esealnt462.al.sw.ericsson.se (ESEALNT462.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.251.62]) by albatross.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.11.0/8.11.0/WIREfire-1.3) with SMTP id g04H5aJ11561 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 18:05:36 +0100 (MET) Received: FROM esealnt746.al.sw.ericsson.se BY esealnt462.al.sw.ericsson.se ; Fri Jan 04 18:05:20 2002 +0100 Received: by ESEALNT746.al.sw.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 18:05:35 +0100 Message-ID: <8FE79FDF967AD4119F3900508B6F72E60408EFC0@eiedbnt510.eei.ericsson.se> From: "Markus Jakob (EEI)" To: "'wireless@lists.samba.org'" Subject: range differencies Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 18:05:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all, I try to get routing protocols on an adhoc network running, using ELSA airlancer cards and the orinoco driver (kernel version 2.4.9, driver version 0.06f). I experienced that broadcast messages have bigger ranges than unicast messages sent to a particular IP and MAC address, e.g at certain distances between two nodes it is possible to receive a broadcast messages from the other node but ping doesn't work anymore between the nodes. Is this a normal behaviour or is it somehow possible to influence it to get the same ranges for all types of messages? Thanks Markus From rowan@sensation.net.au Fri Jan 4 12:37:32 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (vn.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.246]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D719C453D for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:37:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA72191 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 07:34:47 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 07:34:46 +1100 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: wireless@samba.org Subject: RE: Wireless in Adelaide In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Jamz D. Boman wrote: > And THESE are the exemptions under the law: [...] > Line links authorised by or under previous laws > http://scaleplus.law.gov.au/html/pasteact/2/3021/0/PA000610.htm That one is actually broadcasting exemptions, the correct URL is: http://scaleplus.law.gov.au/html/pasteact/2/3021/0/PA000630.htm I correct your email only because that would most likely be the most relevant to hobbyist/private operators. I thought it may have mentioned the 500m rule, but it only exempts links that were installed prior to past changes in the act. Of course, our beloved Senator Richard "I censored the net in Australia and banned online gambling to sell off the rest of Telstra" Alston could be a nice guy and officially condone such hobbyist use of links: http://scaleplus.law.gov.au/html/pasteact/2/3021/0/PA000640.htm (Ministerial determination) As another email said, for a few hobbyists messing around with wireless links, if you share net access then YES it is illegal (regardless of the length of the link!), but if the ACA decide to prosecute you then they're just wasting taxpayers money. Your *equipment* is legal under the RF LIPD regulations (assuming it was purchased in Australia and is ACA type approved), the only part that is illegal is that you are transferring data over your link, that should be transported via a $$$ carrier link. My opinion does not apply to commercial links, any ISP or other commercial body who sets up any unlicenced links for the purposes of making $$$ is just asking to be prosecuted. That's why I never did it when I was running an ISP. Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe - Melbourne, Australia www.camrecord.com www.camdiscover.com www.heyasl.com www.sensationbot.com From jas@pcguru.com.au Fri Jan 4 16:11:29 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from gateway.pcguru.com.au (swami.pcguru.com.au [203.59.228.98]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5CAF413F for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 16:11:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from swami.pcguru.com.au (IDENT:d9MzRs8I+1BuleSyFz9sQNOB9ryo0OBt@swami.pcguru.com.au [192.168.0.2]) by gateway.pcguru.com.au (8.11.6/8.11.6/dsb-1.1) with SMTP id g0508AW14256 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 08:08:44 +0800 Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 08:08:10 +0800 From: Jason Jordan To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Wireless in Adelaide Message-Id: <20020105080810.1ba6d5fb.jas@pcguru.com.au> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Ray Martin has odd hair. I suspect Aliens are somehow involved. X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.6claws36 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 07:34:46 +1100 (EST) Rowan Crowe wrote: > As another email said, for a few hobbyists messing around with > wireless links, if you share net access then YES it is illegal > (regardless of the length of the link!), but if the ACA decide to > prosecute you then they're just wasting taxpayers money. Your > *equipment* is legal under the RF LIPD regulations (assuming it was > purchased in Australia and is ACA type approved), the only part that > is illegal is that you are transferring data over your link, that > should be transported via a $$$ carrier link. Would this apply if you were supplying access to the Internet for free. Totally free? cheers, jas From rowan@sensation.net.au Fri Jan 4 16:19:48 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (vn.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.246]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDCCD4389 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 16:19:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA72858 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:17:09 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:17:09 +1100 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: Wireless in Adelaide In-Reply-To: <20020105080810.1ba6d5fb.jas@pcguru.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Jason Jordan wrote: > On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 07:34:46 +1100 (EST) > Rowan Crowe wrote: > > > As another email said, for a few hobbyists messing around with > > wireless links, if you share net access then YES it is illegal > > (regardless of the length of the link!), but if the ACA decide to > > prosecute you then they're just wasting taxpayers money. Your > > *equipment* is legal under the RF LIPD regulations (assuming it was > > purchased in Australia and is ACA type approved), the only part that > > is illegal is that you are transferring data over your link, that > > should be transported via a $$$ carrier link. > > Would this apply if you were supplying access to the Internet > for free. Totally free? Do you mean is it illegal? Yes. You are carrying 3rd party data. Is it immoral? Well... Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe - Melbourne, Australia www.camrecord.com www.camdiscover.com www.heyasl.com www.sensationbot.com From mfarr@cs.latrobe.edu.au Fri Jan 4 20:02:07 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from mail015.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail015.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.178]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE4804EE9 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 20:02:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mustang.cs.latrobe.edu.au (ocmax9-162.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.42.162]) by mail015.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g053wwV22340 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 14:59:04 +1100 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020105145320.01b11960@latcs1.cs.latrobe.edu.au> X-Sender: mfarr@latcs1.cs.latrobe.edu.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 14:59:05 +1100 To: From: Michael Farr Subject: RE: Wireless in Adelaide In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: At 04:34 PM 1/4/2002 +1030, you wrote: >Guys, > Remember if you aren't a telecommunications carrier you can't: Most of the links provided in regards to Australian telecommunication law is in relation to a "service to the public". What definition does "public" have in this context? From thomas.mattisson@mobilearts.se Sat Jan 5 07:42:20 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mx-03.carambole.com (mx-03.carambole.com [213.180.68.11]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C177417F for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 07:42:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 786 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2002 15:39:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mobilearts.se) (217.215.35.139) by mail.carambole.com with SMTP; 5 Jan 2002 15:39:32 -0000 Message-ID: <3C371D20.4070804@mobilearts.se> Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 16:34:56 +0100 From: Thomas Mattisson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.2.1) Gecko/20010901 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: D-Link DWL 650 problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I've been trying to get my dlink card working under Linux using orinoco_cs but it is a bit problematic. When using 2.4.17 and pcmcia-cs 3.1.31 everything works fine for an hour or two and then I get alot of the following: Jan 4 23:11:53 maclay kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out Jan 4 23:11:53 maclay kernel: eth0: Tx timeout! Resetting card. Jan 4 23:11:53 maclay kernel: hermes @ 0x300: Timeout waiting for card to reset (reg=0x0000)! Jan 4 23:11:53 maclay kernel: eth0: Error -110 resetting card on Tx timeout! Jan 4 23:11:57 maclay kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out Jan 4 23:11:57 maclay kernel: eth0: Tx timeout! Resetting card. Jan 4 23:11:57 maclay kernel: eth0: Error -16 resetting card on Tx timeout! If I remove the card and plug it back in, it works again. I also tried to use version 0.09a of orinoco_cs with the above but then it fails to initialize with the following messages: Jan 5 16:18:17 maclay cardmgr[3257]: socket 1: D-Link DWL-650 Jan 5 16:18:17 maclay cardmgr[3257]: executing: 'modprobe hermes' Jan 5 16:18:17 maclay cardmgr[3257]: executing: 'modprobe orinoco' Jan 5 16:18:17 maclay cardmgr[3257]: executing: 'modprobe orinoco_cs ' Jan 5 16:18:17 maclay kernel: orinoco_cs: Card Services release does not match! Jan 5 16:18:17 maclay cardmgr[3257]: + /lib/modules/2.4.17/pcmcia/orinoco_cs.o: init_module: Operation not permitted I have disabled the CONFIG_MODVERSIONS when compiling the kernel. Anyone have any good suggestions? /Thomas From chrism@zope.com Sat Jan 5 16:15:34 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from ferrari.zope.com (unknown [63.100.190.95]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1554587 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 16:15:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from zope.com (209.249.161.137.cox.com [209.249.161.137] (may be forged)) (authenticated) by ferrari.zope.com (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g060ClQ29673 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 19:12:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3C379822.7080002@zope.com> Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 19:19:46 -0500 From: Chris McDonough User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.3) Gecko/20010801 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: FYI: solution for Dell Inspiron 7000, redhat 7.2, orinoco_cs 0.09a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This message is sent in the interest of helping other folks who have "weird" issues getting orinoco_cs working on Dell Inspiron &k machines. I was able to glean enough information from this list to come up with this little nugget of information for all Dell Inspiron 7K users of the orinoco_cs module. "Out of the box", I think Redhat 7.2 tried to use the wvlan_cs driver to support my Wavelan/IEEE (Lucent Silver card). It was rewarded by kernel panics. I got rid of the attempts to use the wvlan_cs driver by installing the orinoco_cs stuff as a kernel module. Life was better because my machine didn't crash, but I still couldn't make the card actually work. I would insert the card and see stuff like this show up in /var/log/message: hermes.c: 3 Oct 2001 David Gibson orinoco.c 0.08a (David Gibson and others) orinoco_cs.c 0.08a (David Gibson and others) eth0: Error -110 reading firmware info. Wildly guessing capabilities... eth0: Station identity 0000:0000:0000:0000 eth0: Looks like an Intersil firmware version 0.00 eth0: Intersil firmware earlier than v0.08 - several features not supported.<7>eth0: Ad-hoc demo mode supported. hermes @ 0x100: Error -16 issuing command. eth0: failed to read MAC address! orinoco_cs: register_netdev() failed On a tip from somewhere in the recent past within this maillist, I edited my /etc/pcmcia/config.opts file and changed: include port 0x100-x4ff, port 0x00-0xcff to: include port 0x300-x4ff, port 0x00-0xcff and for good measure I added below that line: exclude port 0x100-0x2ff .. and now all is happy. HTH someone, -- Chris McDonough Zope Corporation http://www.zope.org http://www.zope.com "Killing hundreds of birds with thousands of stones" From mr_mobsoft@hotmail.com Sat Jan 5 16:51:58 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from hotmail.com (f149.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.149]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7CC845C9 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 16:51:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 16:49:13 -0800 Received: from 203.134.66.247 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 06 Jan 2002 00:49:13 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.134.66.247] Reply-To: smithy@mobsoft.net From: "Ben Smith" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: wireless laws Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 11:49:13 +1100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jan 2002 00:49:13.0840 (UTC) FILETIME=[F6157700:01C1964B] Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive:

Hi All,

I believe Senator Richard Alston is a stubborn moron that most likely still uses a typewritter to do all of his work and has probabally only used the internet once in his life.  The thing about all of these laws is that they are old, too vauge, outdated and are utterly moronic.  Wireless technology is an all new emerging technology with unlimited possibilities and if we ever get a senator that will do his job then the first thing the senator must do is realise this and re-write the laws, Technology is changing by the minute but sadly our laws are changing by the decade and just keep falling behind.  In the meantime, while our laws remain old, too vague, outdated and quite simply stupid, I am extremely confident that there will be many ways to get around these laws and at this stage they are too vague for any form of enforcement to be imposed.

Best Regards,

Ben Smith

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>Subject: wireless digest, Vol 1 #435 - 5 msgs
>Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 06:27:37 -0800 (PST)
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>Today's Topics:
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> 1. range differencies (Markus Jakob (EEI))
> 2. RE: Wireless in Adelaide (Rowan Crowe)
> 3. Re: Wireless in Adelaide (Jason Jordan)
> 4. Re: Wireless in Adelaide (Rowan Crowe)
> 5. RE: Wireless in Adelaide (Michael Farr)
>
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>
>Message: 1
>From: "Markus Jakob (EEI)"
>To: "'wireless@lists.samba.org'"
>Subject: range differencies
>Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 18:05:17 +0100
>
>Hi all,
>
>I try to get routing protocols on an adhoc network running,
>using ELSA airlancer cards and the orinoco driver
>(kernel version 2.4.9, driver version 0.06f).
>I experienced that broadcast messages have
>bigger ranges than unicast messages sent to a
>particular IP and MAC address, e.g at certain distances
>between two nodes it is possible to receive a broadcast
>messages from the other node but ping doesn't work
>anymore between the nodes.
>Is this a normal behaviour or is it somehow possible
>to influence it to get the same ranges for all types of
>messages?
>
>Thanks
>
>Markus
>
>
>
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 2
>Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 07:34:46 +1100 (EST)
>From: Rowan Crowe
>To: wireless@samba.org
>Subject: RE: Wireless in Adelaide
>
>On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Jamz D. Boman wrote:
>
> > And THESE are the exemptions under the law:
>
>[...]
>
> > Line links authorised by or under previous laws
> > http://scaleplus.law.gov.au/html/pasteact/2/3021/0/PA000610.htm
>
>That one is actually broadcasting exemptions, the correct URL is:
>
> http://scaleplus.law.gov.au/html/pasteact/2/3021/0/PA000630.htm
>
>I correct your email only because that would most likely be the most
>relevant to hobbyist/private operators. I thought it may have mentioned
>the 500m rule, but it only exempts links that were installed prior to
>past changes in the act.
>
>Of course, our beloved Senator Richard "I censored the net in Australia
>and banned online gambling to sell off the rest of Telstra" Alston could
>be a nice guy and officially condone such hobbyist use of links:
>
> http://scaleplus.law.gov.au/html/pasteact/2/3021/0/PA000640.htm
> (Ministerial determination)
>
>As another email said, for a few hobbyists messing around with wireless
>links, if you share net access then YES it is illegal (regardless of the
>length of the link!), but if the ACA decide to prosecute you then they're
>just wasting taxpayers money. Your *equipment* is legal under the RF LIPD
>regulations (assuming it was purchased in Australia and is ACA type
>approved), the only part that is illegal is that you are transferring data
>over your link, that should be transported via a $$$ carrier link.
>
>My opinion does not apply to commercial links, any ISP or other commercial
>body who sets up any unlicenced links for the purposes of making $$$ is
>just asking to be prosecuted. That's why I never did it when I was running
>an ISP.
>
>Cheers.
>
>
>--
>Rowan Crowe - Melbourne, Australia
>www.camrecord.com www.camdiscover.com www.heyasl.com www.sensationbot.com
>
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 3
>Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 08:08:10 +0800
>From: Jason Jordan
>To: wireless@lists.samba.org
>Subject: Re: Wireless in Adelaide
>Organization: Ray Martin has odd hair. I suspect Aliens are somehow involved.
>
>On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 07:34:46 +1100 (EST)
>Rowan Crowe wrote:
>
> > As another email said, for a few hobbyists messing around with
> > wireless links, if you share net access then YES it is illegal
> > (regardless of the length of the link!), but if the ACA decide to
> > prosecute you then they're just wasting taxpayers money. Your
> > *equipment* is legal under the RF LIPD regulations (assuming it was
> > purchased in Australia and is ACA type approved), the only part that
> > is illegal is that you are transferring data over your link, that
> > should be transported via a $$$ carrier link.
>
>Would this apply if you were supplying access to the Internet
>for free. Totally free?
>
>cheers, jas
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 4
>Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:17:09 +1100 (EST)
>From: Rowan Crowe
>To: wireless@samba.org
>Subject: Re: Wireless in Adelaide
>
>On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Jason Jordan wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 5 Jan 2002 07:34:46 +1100 (EST)
> > Rowan Crowe wrote:
> >
> > > As another email said, for a few hobbyists messing around with
> > > wireless links, if you share net access then YES it is illegal
> > > (regardless of the length of the link!), but if the ACA decide to
> > > prosecute you then they're just wasting taxpayers money. Your
> > > *equipment* is legal under the RF LIPD regulations (assuming it was
> > > purchased in Australia and is ACA type approved), the only part that
> > > is illegal is that you are transferring data over your link, that
> > > should be transported via a $$$ carrier link.
> >
> > Would this apply if you were supplying access to the Internet
> > for free. Totally free?
>
>Do you mean is it illegal? Yes. You are carrying 3rd party data.
>
>Is it immoral? Well...
>
>Cheers.
>
>
>--
>Rowan Crowe - Melbourne, Australia
>www.camrecord.com www.camdiscover.com www.heyasl.com www.sensationbot.com
>
>
>
>--__--__--
>
>Message: 5
>Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 14:59:05 +1100
>To:
>From: Michael Farr
>Subject: RE: Wireless in Adelaide
>
>At 04:34 PM 1/4/2002 +1030, you wrote:
> >Guys,
> > Remember if you aren't a telecommunications carrier you can't:
>
>Most of the links provided in regards to Australian telecommunication law
>is in relation to a "service to the public". What definition does "public"
>have in this context?
>
>
>
>
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From dld@coyote.com.au Sat Jan 5 18:17:16 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from otc.coyote.com.au (unknown [203.37.46.52]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8917E4111 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 18:17:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by otc.coyote.com.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7E40EAB1C3; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 13:14:23 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 13:14:22 +1100 From: Drake Diedrich To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: wireless laws Message-ID: <20020106131421.A5903@coyote.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from mr_mobsoft@hotmail.com on Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 11:49:13AM +1100 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 11:49:13AM +1100, Ben Smith wrote: [HTML] There ought to be a law against this. From ryan@prodigital.net.au Sat Jan 5 19:12:34 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from prodigital.net.au (i231-230.nv.iinet.net.au [203.59.231.230]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77C54123 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 19:12:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from lapras.slowest.net (rhydon [10.2.0.1]) by prodigital.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id LAA23457 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 11:09:42 +0800 X-Authentication-Warning: prodigital.net.au: Host rhydon [10.2.0.1] claimed to be lapras.slowest.net Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020106095538.00a2ee10@10.10.10.1> X-Sender: ryan@10.10.10.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 11:09:59 +0800 To: wireless@lists.samba.org From: Ryan Subject: Re: wireless laws In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: With all due respect to valid Telecommunications Carrier License holders and the fist of the Telcommunications Act, These issues have been discussed on this and many other lists before too many times to mention and it never gets anywhere close to a conclusion. The nature and vagueness of the laws prevents even ACA staff making recommendations to you, so how can we come up with any definitive ruling on our own? These kind of laws are verified through precedent, it's the only way to test them. So get caught, argue your case and make them see how inappropriate the laws are, or become a politician and get your head on TV and scream about it a bit, or do as they say, or just ignore them (*). It's your choice, holes or no holes. Respect the intentions of 'The Act' though: How do think paying licensees feel about you sticking up a carriage link in competition with their one without paying for it? It cuts both ways. Amongst other things The Act provides exclusive rights to a license holder much like a Patent, while ensuring the services they provide are done so with an acceptable duty of care to both the public and other license holders. How socialist do you think The Act can become while upholding these characteristics? Ryan (*) At 11:49 AM 06-01-02 +1100, you wrote: >Hi All, > >I believe Senator Richard Alston is a stubborn moron that most likely >still uses a typewritter to do all of his work and has probabally only >used the internet once in his life. The thing about all of these laws is >that they are old, too vauge, outdated and are utterly moronic. Wireless >technology is an all new emerging technology with unlimited possibilities >and if we ever get a senator that will do his job then the first thing the >senator must do is realise this and re-write the laws, Technology is >changing by the minute but sadly our laws are changing by the decade and >just keep falling behind. In the meantime, while our laws remain old, too >vague, outdated and quite simply stupid, I am extremely confident that >there will be many ways to get around these laws and at this stage they >are too vague for any form of enforcement to be imposed. > >Best Regards, > >Ben Smith From mattj@tartarus.uwa.edu.au Sun Jan 6 08:21:54 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from elysium.uwa.edu.au (elysium.uwa.edu.au [130.95.128.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58764352 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 08:21:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from tartarus.uwa.edu.au (root@tartarus.uwa.edu.au [130.95.128.3]) by elysium.uwa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA03622 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 00:19:06 +0800 Received: (from mattj@localhost) by tartarus.uwa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id AAA06294 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 00:19:05 +0800 Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 00:19:05 +0800 From: Matt Johnston To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: wireless laws Message-ID: <20020107001905.A6135@tartarus.uwa.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all. From my reading of the Telecommunications Act of 1997, non-commercial carriage over radio is excluded from requiring a carrier license. As Jamz D. Boman stated the sections 42, 43, 44 exclude the use of a "network unit" to provide a carriage service without a license. Going back to section 25 however, the definition of "network unit" we want is the "designated radio communications unit". This is then defined in sections 34 and 35 (theres others like satellite which won't apply to us), with both of these sections refering to 34 1h), where it then points to 34 3a), stating: (3) For the purposes of paragraph (1)(h), a network is an exempt network if: (a) the network is used, or for use, for the sole purpose of supplying carriage services on a non-commercial basis; or (b) the network is of a kind specified in the regulations. So from my reading of it, the later sections (43, 44, 45) wrt to carrier licenses don't even apply, as our network units are excepmt. I'd appreciate comments on whether this line of reading is correct. Cheers, Matt Johnston From daniel.hoffman@mylittleplanet.org Sun Jan 6 16:58:26 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from mouse.mylittleplanet.org (dan136552-1.gw.connect.com.au [202.21.12.92]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE8444FB for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 16:58:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mylittleplanet.org (mouse [127.0.0.1]) by mouse.mylittleplanet.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g06Nvta14031 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 10:57:55 +1100 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (SquirrelMail authenticated user dhoffman) by mouse.mylittleplanet.org with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 10:57:55 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <33471.127.0.0.1.1010361475.squirrel@mouse.mylittleplanet.org> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 10:57:55 +1100 (EST) Subject: Courses From: "Daniel Hoffman" To: X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Reply-To: daniel.hoffman@mylittleplanet.org X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.0 [cvs]) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Does anyone know of any RF engineer style trainging courses, just so I can geta bit of paper that says "Hey, I can do this stuff, REALLY!"?? - daniel - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ I asked santa for my sun e450 and all I got was a crappy domain name.... From Alfred.Reynolds@dsto.defence.gov.au Sun Jan 6 17:21:24 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6A8434A for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 17:21:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g071HVF02295 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 11:47:31 +1030 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 11:48:16 +1030 Received: from salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au (salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.9]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id LAA26680; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 11:40:42 +1030 (CST) Received: from fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au ([144.97.171.1]) by salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id C2K5NMWS; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 11:40:41 +1030 Received: by fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4WMNTG4K>; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:09:56 +1100 Message-ID: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C065C2B9@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> From: "Reynolds, Alfred" To: "'daniel.hoffman@mylittleplanet.org'" , wireless@samba.org Subject: RE: Courses Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:09:53 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: IPS: Radio and Space Services (a part of the Industry and Science Resources department, www.ips.gov.au) offer a HF Comms course. Perhaps they offer more complex courses that would suit you? > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Hoffman [mailto:daniel.hoffman@mylittleplanet.org] > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:58 AM > To: wireless@samba.org > Subject: Courses > > > > Does anyone know of any RF engineer style trainging courses, > just so I can > geta bit of paper that says "Hey, I can do this stuff, REALLY!"?? > > > > - daniel > > > > - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ > > I asked santa for my sun e450 and all I got was > a crappy domain name.... > > > > > > From Justin@futurecorp.co.uk Sun Jan 6 17:55:06 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from tungsten.btinternet.com (tungsten.btinternet.com [194.73.73.81]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0AC34126 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 17:55:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from host217-39-64-217.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([217.39.64.217] helo=futurecorp.co.uk) by tungsten.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #8) id 16NOxR-0000w9-00; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 01:52:13 +0000 Message-ID: <3C38FE34.182128CE@futurecorp.co.uk> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 01:47:32 +0000 From: "Justin T. Fanning" Organization: Futurecorp (UK) Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Reynolds, Alfred" Cc: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: Courses References: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C065C2B9@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: There use to be two courses called BOCP & TVOCP that use to be legal prerequisites to work on radio/tv transmission systems. I mention them because although slightly off topic, they use to be available via correspondence for only a few hundred dollars. You could also consider taking some amateur radio courses for next to nothing, a lot of amateurs use the microwave bands and you'll have considerable more antenna flexibility and frequency/power output available to your experiments. Regards, Justin --- "Reynolds, Alfred" wrote: > > IPS: Radio and Space Services (a part of the Industry and Science Resources > department, www.ips.gov.au) offer a HF Comms course. Perhaps they offer more > complex courses that would suit you? > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Daniel Hoffman [mailto:daniel.hoffman@mylittleplanet.org] > > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:58 AM > > To: wireless@samba.org > > Subject: Courses > > > > > > > > Does anyone know of any RF engineer style trainging courses, > > just so I can > > geta bit of paper that says "Hey, I can do this stuff, REALLY!"?? > > > > > > > > - daniel > > > > > > > > - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ > > > > I asked santa for my sun e450 and all I got was > > a crappy domain name.... > > > > > > > > > > > > From jason@air.net.au Sun Jan 6 18:25:45 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from river.redflex.com.au (mail.redflex.com.au [203.63.133.169]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD5A41A4 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 18:25:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from jasonh.air.net.au (rcs-125.comm-systems.redflex.com.au [192.168.88.125]) by river.redflex.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12792; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 13:22:51 +1100 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020107131320.023995d0@mailhub.air.net.au> X-Sender: jason@mailhub.air.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 13:22:51 +1100 To: wireless@lists.samba.org From: Jason Hecker Subject: Re: Courses In-Reply-To: <33655.127.0.0.1.1010363376.squirrel@mouse.mylittleplanet.o rg> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020107120107.00b3f4c8@mailhub.air.net.au> <5.1.0.14.0.20020107120107.00b3f4c8@mailhub.air.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: The easiest thing if you want to learn and play about with RF is to go and get the limited amateur radio operators license. That will let you use pretty much any amateur band from VHF upwards, and I don't think Morse code is a requirement anymore. You need to do some study and take an exam but it's not too tricky and you can get plenty of help from other operators in the ACT. You can then muck with satellites and whatnot from your back yard. This way you can learn about RF, have a large scope for experimentation on all sorts of frequencies and power levels and you can do it at your own pace. And the theory isn't all that tricky (no calculus, just a bit of algebra), it's applied versus the evil and nasty theoretical. Check out http://www.wia.org.au/ for more information. I knew a guy in the ACT who made his own dual stacked helical antennas for his UHF rig and quite easily talked to other operators in Sydney. And a friend of mine (before he got a girlfriend) had a big rhombic antenna on his garage for working various amateur satellites on the 2m band. I think he was pinging it to test the true round trip time as the satellite passed overhead. That's the sort of thing you can do and you'll learn a lot. jASON At 11:29 AM 7/01/2002 +1100, you wrote: >thats cool ... but i was kinda looking for some 3rd party thing, even if >its onlythe basics of RF using only one certain products. I have seen some >lucent >courses around... > >Id prefer not to have to do a 4 year uni degree as im a IT Security geek >at themoment. Id prefer to find something I can pick up on the side... > >btw. I am playing, just need to find someone in the ACT area i can point >my kitat now... > >thanks for your input :) From bobtenty@sympatico.ca Sun Jan 6 19:11:46 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from tomts15-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts15.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.3]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DEB040C5 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 19:11:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from david ([64.228.136.242]) by tomts15-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20020107030858.TUVW23989.tomts15-srv.bellnexxia.net@david> for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 22:08:58 -0500 Message-ID: <011c01c19728$78ca62a0$f288e440@ampr.org> From: "Bob Tenty" To: References: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C065C2B9@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> <3C38FE34.182128CE@futurecorp.co.uk> Subject: Re: Courses Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 03:07:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Visit http://www.radioelectronicschool.com (or http://www.qsl.net/vk2dq/raecourse.html ) for free on line courses and also free teacher assistance if you want Bob, ve3tok ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin T. Fanning" To: "Reynolds, Alfred" Cc: Sent: January 7, 2002 1:47 AM Subject: Re: Courses There use to be two courses called BOCP & TVOCP that use to be legal prerequisites to work on radio/tv transmission systems. I mention them because although slightly off topic, they use to be available via correspondence for only a few hundred dollars. You could also consider taking some amateur radio courses for next to nothing, a lot of amateurs use the microwave bands and you'll have considerable more antenna flexibility and frequency/power output available to your experiments. Regards, Justin --- "Reynolds, Alfred" wrote: > > IPS: Radio and Space Services (a part of the Industry and Science Resources > department, www.ips.gov.au) offer a HF Comms course. Perhaps they offer more > complex courses that would suit you? > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Daniel Hoffman [mailto:daniel.hoffman@mylittleplanet.org] > > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:58 AM > > To: wireless@samba.org > > Subject: Courses > > > > > > > > Does anyone know of any RF engineer style trainging courses, > > just so I can > > geta bit of paper that says "Hey, I can do this stuff, REALLY!"?? > > > > > > > > - daniel > > > > > > > > - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ - _ > > > > I asked santa for my sun e450 and all I got was > > a crappy domain name.... > > > > > > > > > > > > From Clinton.Jones@almarai.com Sun Jan 6 21:57:22 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from mail.almarai.com (unknown [212.70.36.66]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830394466 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 21:57:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by MAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 08:51:45 +0300 Message-ID: <0AFD5D3C726AD51190440002A574831FC5217B@MAIL> From: Clinton Jones To: wireless@samba.org Subject: Transient Failure Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 08:51:44 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: We've had a 5 node external Wavelan rig up and running for a few months now but we get variable performance. The nearest node has a directional grid antennae and is within 700m of the central hub with the omnidirectional antennae and also fails when the rest of the network goes down Originally we had the system working as a bridge, but soon after we installed the system we changed it to a routed configuration. I am not very au fait with all the technicalities, however the bill of materials for the hub indicated that we purchased: The Orinoco OR-1100 (COR) WL Turbo 11Mb CP Card EXT a 2.4Ghz indoor Amplifier a 2.4 Ghz outdoor Amplifier 24dB 2.4Ghz Omni Directional Antenna When we initially set it up, we had failures generally at night time, when the sun set, which was very odd, after some messing about, the supplier removed the indoor amplifier and everything seemed to work quite well although occassionally we'd have failures in the mornings from sunrise for about two hours, always around the same time. Of late it has really become quite awful, some days the performance is down dramatically to 50% reliability, the only major difference between now and two months ago, is that some days are overcast and rainy, in your experience could the size of the transmitter be a reason for all the problems, could intereference from the nearby airbase be an influence (it is about 15km away). Clinton Jones Manager - Infrastructure and Technical Support Almarai Company Ltd, PO Box 8524, Riyadh, 11492 Saudi Arabia Telephone :+966 (01) 4700005 Ext 444 Mobile : +966 (053) 255183 Fax :+966 1 4701555 Telex 405806 MRAI SJ ______________________________________________________________________ Information in this message is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this email. Please notify the sender if you have received this e-mail in error and delete the message from your system immediately. Almarai cannot accept any responsibility for the accuracy or completeness of this message as it has been transmitted over a public network. Although Almarai operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. If you suspect that the message may have been intercepted or amended, please call the sender. From oh1mrr@nic.fi Sun Jan 6 22:32:21 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from esmikko.fin.kemira.com (hkiteeri11.kemira.com [137.33.254.111]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ABC84227 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 22:32:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from vkauto06 ([137.33.23.92]) by esmikko.fin.kemira.com (8.8.8/SCO5) with SMTP id IAA09067; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 08:29:29 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <00a101c19744$c1fdf1a0$5c172189@fin.kemira.com> From: "Jarmo" To: "Justin T. Fanning" , "Reynolds, Alfred" Cc: References: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C065C2B9@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> <3C38FE34.182128CE@futurecorp.co.uk> Subject: Vs: Courses Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 08:30:09 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Justin T. Fanning To: Reynolds, Alfred Cc: Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 3:47 AM Subject: Re: Courses > You could also consider taking some amateur radio courses for next to > nothing, a lot of amateurs use the microwave bands and you'll have > considerable more antenna flexibility and frequency/power output > available to your experiments. >=20 > Regards, >=20 >=20 > Justin Agree...I was about suggess same Jarmo oh1mrr=20 From bobtenty@sympatico.ca Sun Jan 6 23:02:43 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts5.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.25]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8177C4227 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 23:02:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from david ([64.228.136.242]) by tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20020107065955.XTXV1709.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@david> for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 01:59:55 -0500 Message-ID: <001101c19748$bb69d800$f288e440@ampr.org> From: "Bob Tenty" To: References: <0AFD5D3C726AD51190440002A574831FC5217B@MAIL> Subject: Re: Transient Failure Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 06:58:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Don't you have problems with condensation or water in one of the connectors or electronic equipment outside? Cold during the night... sun comes up and very quickly hot outside.. rain > hot.... condensation is a problem in tropical or hot climats.. 2.4 Ghz remains a shared band but that's difficult to judge from here but you can try to switch to another channel.. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clinton Jones" To: Sent: January 7, 2002 5:51 AM Subject: Transient Failure We've had a 5 node external Wavelan rig up and running for a few months now but we get variable performance. The nearest node has a directional grid antennae and is within 700m of the central hub with the omnidirectional antennae and also fails when the rest of the network goes down Originally we had the system working as a bridge, but soon after we installed the system we changed it to a routed configuration. I am not very au fait with all the technicalities, however the bill of materials for the hub indicated that we purchased: The Orinoco OR-1100 (COR) WL Turbo 11Mb CP Card EXT a 2.4Ghz indoor Amplifier a 2.4 Ghz outdoor Amplifier 24dB 2.4Ghz Omni Directional Antenna When we initially set it up, we had failures generally at night time, when the sun set, which was very odd, after some messing about, the supplier removed the indoor amplifier and everything seemed to work quite well although occassionally we'd have failures in the mornings from sunrise for about two hours, always around the same time. Of late it has really become quite awful, some days the performance is down dramatically to 50% reliability, the only major difference between now and two months ago, is that some days are overcast and rainy, in your experience could the size of the transmitter be a reason for all the problems, could intereference from the nearby airbase be an influence (it is about 15km away). Clinton Jones Manager - Infrastructure and Technical Support Almarai Company Ltd, PO Box 8524, Riyadh, 11492 Saudi Arabia Telephone :+966 (01) 4700005 Ext 444 Mobile : +966 (053) 255183 Fax :+966 1 4701555 Telex 405806 MRAI SJ ______________________________________________________________________ Information in this message is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this email. Please notify the sender if you have received this e-mail in error and delete the message from your system immediately. Almarai cannot accept any responsibility for the accuracy or completeness of this message as it has been transmitted over a public network. Although Almarai operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. If you suspect that the message may have been intercepted or amended, please call the sender. From Clinton.Jones@almarai.com Mon Jan 7 02:05:09 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from mail.almarai.com (unknown [212.70.36.66]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A754545CB for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 02:05:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by MAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:59:59 +0300 Message-ID: <0AFD5D3C726AD51190440002A574831FC5228F@MAIL> From: Clinton Jones To: wireless@samba.org Subject: RE: Transient Failure Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:59:59 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I have just met with the vendors and they tell me that they believe that the problem is the omnidirectional antennae, they are now proposing three grid antennae with directional beams. they are of the opinion that there is interference and that this will only affect one antennae if it is coming from a particular direction. I shall suggest condensation/moisture as being a possible cause however I have my doubts as our humidity is only around 15 - 20% in this area. They have apparently switched channels as well but to no avail. Clinton Jones Manager - Infrastructure and Technical Support Almarai Company Ltd, PO Box 8524, Riyadh, 11492 Saudi Arabia Telephone :+966 (01) 4700005 Ext 444 Mobile : +966 (053) 255183 Fax :+966 1 4701555 Telex 405806 MRAI SJ ______________________________________________________________________ Information in this message is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this email. Please notify the sender if you have received this e-mail in error and delete the message from your system immediately. Almarai cannot accept any responsibility for the accuracy or completeness of this message as it has been transmitted over a public network. Although Almarai operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. If you suspect that the message may have been intercepted or amended, please call the sender. From rake_arora@yahoo.com Mon Jan 7 16:44:17 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from web14702.mail.yahoo.com (web14702.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.119]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E0A7F4129 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:44:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020108004123.59333.qmail@web14702.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.105.236.189] by web14702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 16:41:23 PST Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:41:23 -0800 (PST) From: Rakesh Arora Subject: Orinoco card works, SMC 2632W doesn't To: wireless@lists.samba.org Cc: rake_arora@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, Recently I got an Orinoco Silver card working on my desktop using an Orinoco PCI adapter. I am using kernel 2.4.16 and pcmcia-cs-3.1.29. However, my SMC2632W card doesn't work with the same configuration. The only change I have made is to the wireless.opts file. The network.opts file is set up correctly as are config.opts, ifcfg-eth1 etc. The output of ifconfig, iwconfig and lsmod are as follows: [root@localhost sysconfig]# iwconfig eth1 eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"1e8146" Nickname:"localhost.localdomain" Frequency:2.412GHz Sensitivity:1/3 Mode:Managed Access Point: 00:02:2D:1E:81:46 Bit Rate:11Mb/s RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Power Management:off Link quality:92/92 Signal level:2/153 Noise level:108/153 Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 Segmentation fault (core dumped) [root@localhost sysconfig]# ifconfig eth1 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:04:E2:1E:05:57 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:3 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 Interrupt:9 Base address:0x100 [root@localhost /root]# lsmod Module Size Used by orinoco_cs 4416 0 orinoco 30160 0 [orinoco_cs] hermes 3328 0 [orinoco_cs orinoco] ds 6736 1 [orinoco_cs] yenta_socket 8816 1 pcmcia_core 39040 0 [orinoco_cs ds yenta_socket] 3c59x 25920 1 (autoclean) I hope that someone in the list can tell me what I am doing wrong and guide me in the right direction. Thanks a lot, rakesh __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From binzhou@site.uottawa.ca Mon Jan 7 17:30:33 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.site.uottawa.ca (mailn.site.uottawa.ca [137.122.89.142]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332C84A82 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:30:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from grdb.site.uottawa.ca (binzhou@grdb.site.uottawa.ca [137.122.89.30]) by mail.site.uottawa.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA80017; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:27:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:27:05 -0500 (EST) From: Bin Zhou To: Rakesh Arora Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Orinoco card works, SMC 2632W doesn't In-Reply-To: <20020108004123.59333.qmail@web14702.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, Rakesh Did you set smc2632w card in .config? I notice you set 3c590/900 card as y, smc card not set. And it should be set as y, not m. Best regars, Bin On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Rakesh Arora wrote: > Hi, > Recently I got an Orinoco Silver card working > on my desktop using an Orinoco PCI adapter. I am using > kernel 2.4.16 and pcmcia-cs-3.1.29. However, my > SMC2632W card doesn't work with the same > configuration. The only change I have made is to the > wireless.opts file. The network.opts file is set up > correctly as are config.opts, ifcfg-eth1 etc. The > output of ifconfig, iwconfig and lsmod are as follows: > > [root@localhost sysconfig]# iwconfig eth1 > eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"1e8146" > Nickname:"localhost.localdomain" > Frequency:2.412GHz Sensitivity:1/3 Mode:Managed > Access Point: 00:02:2D:1E:81:46 > Bit Rate:11Mb/s RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off > Power Management:off > Link quality:92/92 Signal level:2/153 Noise > level:108/153 > Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > > > [root@localhost sysconfig]# ifconfig eth1 > eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr > 00:04:E2:1E:05:57 > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:3 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 > Interrupt:9 Base address:0x100 > > > [root@localhost /root]# lsmod > Module Size Used by > orinoco_cs 4416 0 > orinoco 30160 0 [orinoco_cs] > hermes 3328 0 [orinoco_cs orinoco] > ds 6736 1 [orinoco_cs] > yenta_socket 8816 1 > pcmcia_core 39040 0 [orinoco_cs ds > yenta_socket] > 3c59x 25920 1 (autoclean) > > I hope that someone in the list can tell me what I am > doing wrong and guide me in the right direction. > > Thanks a lot, > rakesh > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > > From rake_arora@yahoo.com Mon Jan 7 18:32:59 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from web14701.mail.yahoo.com (web14701.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.118]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 94B1F43F7 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:32:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020108023007.92558.qmail@web14701.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.105.236.189] by web14701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 18:30:07 PST Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:30:07 -0800 (PST) From: Rakesh Arora Subject: Re: Orinoco card works, SMC 2632W doesn't To: Bin Zhou Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Thanks for the suggestion Bin. But that is not the problem since the SMC options (two of them) appear under Ethernet cards in .config. I have CONFIG_HERMES=m, CONFIG_PCMCIA_HERMES=m, CONFIG_NET_RADIO=y, CONFIG_NET_WIRELESS=y set in my config file, which I think should take care of my SMC2632W card. Can someone correct me if I am missing something in my .config? Also does anyone have any other suggestions. If someone could mail me their working .config file, then it would be great (email: rake_arora AT yahoo dot com). Thanks, rakesh --- Bin Zhou wrote: > > Hi, Rakesh > > Did you set smc2632w card in .config? > I notice you set 3c590/900 card as y, smc card not > set. > And it should be set as y, not m. > > Best regars, > > Bin > > On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Rakesh Arora wrote: > > > Hi, > > Recently I got an Orinoco Silver card > working > > on my desktop using an Orinoco PCI adapter. I am > using > > kernel 2.4.16 and pcmcia-cs-3.1.29. However, my > > SMC2632W card doesn't work with the same > > configuration. The only change I have made is to > the > > wireless.opts file. The network.opts file is set > up > > correctly as are config.opts, ifcfg-eth1 etc. The > > output of ifconfig, iwconfig and lsmod are as > follows: > > > > [root@localhost sysconfig]# iwconfig eth1 > > eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"1e8146" > > Nickname:"localhost.localdomain" > > Frequency:2.412GHz Sensitivity:1/3 Mode:Managed > > > Access Point: 00:02:2D:1E:81:46 > > Bit Rate:11Mb/s RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off > > > Power Management:off > > Link quality:92/92 Signal level:2/153 Noise > > level:108/153 > > Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 > > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > > > > > > [root@localhost sysconfig]# ifconfig eth1 > > eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr > > 00:04:E2:1E:05:57 > > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > > RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > > TX packets:3 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 > carrier:0 > > collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 > > Interrupt:9 Base address:0x100 > > > > > > [root@localhost /root]# lsmod > > Module Size Used by > > orinoco_cs 4416 0 > > orinoco 30160 0 [orinoco_cs] > > hermes 3328 0 [orinoco_cs > orinoco] > > ds 6736 1 [orinoco_cs] > > yenta_socket 8816 1 > > pcmcia_core 39040 0 [orinoco_cs ds > > yenta_socket] > > 3c59x 25920 1 (autoclean) > > > > I hope that someone in the list can tell me what I > am > > doing wrong and guide me in the right direction. > > > > Thanks a lot, > > rakesh > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From dragorn@mail.nerv-un.net Mon Jan 7 21:49:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from melchior.nerv-un.net (melchior.is.marist.edu [148.100.128.100]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21FA14522 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:49:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by melchior.nerv-un.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7DC7311B3CF; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 00:48:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 00:48:08 -0500 From: Mike Kershaw To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Antenna cables Message-ID: <20020108004808.A24242@melchior.nerv-un.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I'm looking to dabble with building some antennas and was wondering what people reccomend as far as feed lines are concerned -- I'm looking to build something like a pringles can yagi to hook up to a Cisco 350 card. I've seen MMCX->N adapters, but they're all much more than I'd want to pay. What types of cable (LMR? RG coax? What sizes?) are appropriate? I don't mind making my own cables, I just don't know which I should be aiming for. Thanks for any advice, -m -- I could wake up tomorrow a pinworm, a cuttlefish, or a row of pretty dead blackbirds hanging by their claws from a high-tension wire, slowly coming unstuck. -- The Troika From nikita_s@21cn.com Tue Jan 8 05:56:22 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from 21cn.com (unknown [61.140.60.248]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 480D64E26 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 05:56:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from 21cn.com([10.2.2.3]) by 21cn.com(AIMC 2.9.5.2) with SMTP id jm2a3c3b05a6; Tue, 08 Jan 2002 21:50:22 +0800 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-AIMailer: AIMC 2.9.5.1 2001.05.18 X-AIMime: MIME/SMIME Lib 2.9 2.9 2001.05.18 Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 21:51:00 +0800 (CST) From: "yu" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Cc: Subject: Help! X-Priority: 1 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all: Now I have some problems with my installation of the Lucent Wavelan IEEE PC card under the RedHat7.1.The card with a ISA-PCMCIA bridge.The kernel is 2.4.2-2. When I inserted the card into my destop, the system identified the card, send out two high beeps, and the power LED also bright stable. Then I configured the network, I named the netdevice is eth1(Have another 3Com ethernet card). When I reboot the machine,but the bootlog shows that : Bring up eth1; Delaying eth1 initialization. [Failed] But when I used ifconfig, it shows both the 2 cards, and their configuration. Then I pinged the own IP of the PC card,it worked. But I pinged ohter same PC card in another computer, it failed. I don't know how to make the card work. Please help me! Thanks much. Best Regards Niktia ---------------------------------------------- ¹úÄÚÊÕ·ÑÓÊÏäË­×îÇ¿£¬Ê×´ÎȨÍþÆÀ²â¼û·ÖÏþ http://news.21cn.com/domestic/21CN/2001-11-19/550568.html ÂòÆóÒµÓÊÏ䣬»ñÔùÓòÃû http://mail.21cn.com/corporation/010.html 21cn´øÄú×ß½øÄ¿±êÖ®Âã¬ÏíÊÜÉÌÂÃÀÖȤ http://travel.21cn.com/agency/aimtrip/aimtrip.html ÊÕ·ÑÓÊÏäÕæÄÜ´óÐÐÆäµÀ£¬¸øÎÒÒ»¸öÀíÓÉ http://mail.21cn.com/bijiao/index2-7.html From Markus.Jakob@eei.ericsson.se Wed Jan 9 08:53:28 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se (penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [194.237.142.110]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A5E84168 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 08:53:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from esealnt406.al.sw.ericsson.se (ESEALNT406.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.251.29]) by penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.11.0/8.11.0/WIREfire-1.3) with SMTP id g09GoRK17654 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 17:50:27 +0100 (MET) Received: FROM esealnt746.al.sw.ericsson.se BY esealnt406.al.sw.ericsson.se ; Wed Jan 09 17:49:56 2002 +0100 Received: by ESEALNT746.al.sw.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 17:49:56 +0100 Message-ID: <8FE79FDF967AD4119F3900508B6F72E60408EFD0@eiedbnt510.eei.ericsson.se> From: "Markus Jakob (EEI)" To: "'wireless@lists.samba.org'" Subject: fixed TX rates for broadcast messages Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 17:49:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, it's me once more. I did some more testing on the problem I posted last week. It seems to be more a problem of fixed bit rates for broadcast messages for the ELSA MC-11 card why the ranges differ. I measured available bit rates between two nodes for broadcast and unicast messages. I run a simple application on one node which sends packets of a selected bitrate out to specified IP-address. On a second node, placed directly beside, an application checked the amount of received packets. For the Elsa Airlancer MC11 card I could see that independant of the TX bitrate set via iwconfig the broadcast messages (sending to IP-address 255.255.255.255) are sent out with the same bit rate. (I could never record more than around 1600kb/s on the second node.) If I have sent directly to the address of node 2 the transmission rate could be increased according to the rate set with iwconfig. (1600kb/s for 2Mb/s, 3200kb/s for 5Mb/s,...) Could this explain why I got different ranges for broadcast and unicast messages, because I had set the card to 11Mb/s but the broadcast messages were always transmitted with lower rate and therefore better coded? With a netgear MA401 card the rates are the same for broadcast and unicast using the same driver. Is it possible to influence this behaviour in the driver or is it a pure firmware or hardware problem for the ELSA cards? Thanks Markus > -----Original Message----- > From: Markus Jakob (EEI) > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:05 PM > To: 'wireless@lists.samba.org' > Subject: range differencies > > Hi all, > > I try to get routing protocols on an adhoc network running, > using ELSA airlancer cards and the orinoco driver > (kernel version 2.4.9, driver version 0.06f). > I experienced that broadcast messages have > bigger ranges than unicast messages sent to a > particular IP and MAC address, e.g at certain distances > between two nodes it is possible to receive a broadcast > messages from the other node but ping doesn't work > anymore between the nodes. > Is this a normal behaviour or is it somehow possible > to influence it to get the same ranges for all types of > messages? > > Thanks > > Markus > > > From clay.jones@email.com Wed Jan 9 10:57:50 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from ws3-5.us4.outblaze.com (205-158-62-95.outblaze.com [205.158.62.95]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 65AEE413B for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 10:57:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 6817 invoked by uid 1001); 9 Jan 2002 18:54:54 -0000 Message-ID: <20020109185454.6815.qmail@email.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from ws3-5.us4.outblaze.com for [24.14.246.173] via web-mailer on Thu, 10 Jan 2002 02:54:53 +0800 From: "Clay Jones" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 02:54:53 +0800 Subject: orinoco_cs problem when compiled for Arm processors (Ipaq) Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I was trying to get the orinoco driver working on an Ipaq running Linux. I have managed to get it working after a bit of fiddling with one of the structures. I am not a part of this list group, but I wanted to pass on the information in case you wish to correct the problem for future users. Symptom: After compiling and loading the driver, I was unable to get a dhcp lease, even though everything looked right and I connected to the AP. Problem: After some wireless sniffing, I determined that the Wireless packets from the Ipaq had 2 too many bytes in one of the headers. The ethernet header has 2 6 byte ethernet addresses, followed by 2 byte length/type field, followed by the data. I found that there was consistently 0x00 0x00 following the 2 byte length, and before the 0xAA 0xAA of the 802.3 header. Solution: In orinoco.c, both the struct orinoco_txframe_hdr and struct orinoco_rxframe_hdr include a struct ethhdr which is defined in linux/include/linux/if_eth.h but which is NOT packed. Thus the compiler padded 2 extra bytes onto the end of the ethhdr where it wasn't needed. My solution was to re-define struct ethhdr as struct ethhdr1 inside orinoco.c, pack it, and change all references to the new packed structure. That probably isn't the most elegant of solutions, but it was fast and it worked. I am now able to use an orinoco card in my Ipaq. -- _______________________________________________ 1 cent a minute calls anywhere in the U.S.! http://www.getpennytalk.com/cgi-bin/adforward.cgi?p_key=RG9853KJ&url=http://www.getpennytalk.com From dgibson@samba.org Wed Jan 9 15:49:15 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id 698194262; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 15:49:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 10:35:07 +1100 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: orinoco_cs problem when compiled for Arm processors (Ipaq) Message-ID: <20020109233507.GA4769@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <20020109185454.6815.qmail@email.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020109185454.6815.qmail@email.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 02:54:53AM +0800, Clay Jones wrote: > I was trying to get the orinoco driver working on an Ipaq running Linux. > > I have managed to get it working after a bit of fiddling with one of > the structures. I am not a part of this list group, but I wanted to > pass on the information in case you wish to correct the problem for > future users. Yes, the driver is broken for ARM (it's in the FAQ even). I think it is fixed in the current testing version (more below). > Symptom: After compiling and loading the driver, I was unable to get > a dhcp lease, even though everything looked right and I connected to > the AP. > Problem: After some wireless sniffing, I determined that the > Wireless packets from the Ipaq had 2 too many bytes in one of the > headers. The ethernet header has 2 6 byte ethernet addresses, > followed by 2 byte length/type field, followed by the data. I found > that there was consistently 0x00 0x00 following the 2 byte length, > and before the 0xAA 0xAA of the 802.3 header. > Solution: In orinoco.c, both the struct orinoco_txframe_hdr and > struct orinoco_rxframe_hdr include a struct ethhdr which is defined > in linux/include/linux/if_eth.h but which is NOT packed. Thus the > compiler padded 2 extra bytes onto the end of the ethhdr where it > wasn't needed. My solution was to re-define struct ethhdr as struct > ethhdr1 inside orinoco.c, pack it, and change all references to the > new packed structure. Actually, I'm surprised that was sufficient - I think I've tried that in the past and it hasn't worked. gcc doesn't seem to reliably pack things when there are nested structures. > That probably isn't the most elegant of solutions, but it was fast > and it worked. I am now able to use an orinoco card in my Ipaq. The testing version has a neater solution, it removes the use of the nested structure entirely. -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From MF180802@Exchange.Australia.NCR.COM Wed Jan 9 15:59:24 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from sausyd003.Australia.NCR.COM (tan7.ncr.com [192.127.94.7]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61874230 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 15:59:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by sausyd003.australia.ncr.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 10:56:25 +1100 Message-ID: From: "Fox, Michael" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: choice of cards... Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 10:56:16 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all, After much hanging around, I have finally started looking at cards. I hope to have 2 PCMCIA cards with PCI adapters, so that I can install them into 2 linux workstations. The project for me is to get the two cards talking to each other, and then work at getting the networks either side of the linux machines to see each other. But first I need to make a choice on my card.. my prefered card would be a Lucent Orinoco or a Compaq WLxxx Anyone care to guide me into making the perfect choice. Initally the cards will be used inside my house doing point to point, but soon as someone is nearby I would then like to use the cards with an external antenna, so it needs to support an external antenna. Anyone care to drop us an email, and let me know which Compaq WL card would suit, and if the lucent cards also suit? which is better for me? Thanks in advance Michael From Samnmaxco@aol.com Wed Jan 9 22:51:46 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (imo-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.33]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE3844A5 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 22:51:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from Samnmaxco@aol.com by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id 8.102.eb100ff (4397) for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 01:48:43 -0500 (EST) From: Samnmaxco@aol.com Message-ID: <102.eb100ff.296e934a@aol.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 01:48:42 EST Subject: How do i get started? To: wireless@lists.samba.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_102.eb100ff.296e934a_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows AU sub 10508 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --part1_102.eb100ff.296e934a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was wondering what I needed to get connected to the WAN and where I can get those things (espically the wireless card ) Thanking you in advance, Alex Sadleir --part1_102.eb100ff.296e934a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was wondering what I needed to get connected to the WAN and where I can get those things (espically the wireless card )

Thanking you in advance,
Alex Sadleir

--part1_102.eb100ff.296e934a_boundary-- From ben@algroup.co.uk Thu Jan 10 10:09:09 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from scuzzy.ben.algroup.co.uk (sockittome.aldigital.co.uk [194.128.162.252]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D620152F3 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 10:09:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from algroup.co.uk (wiese.ben.algroup.co.uk [193.133.15.150]) by scuzzy.ben.algroup.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18272152CB; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 18:06:07 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <3C3DD80E.EF32816C@algroup.co.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 18:06:06 +0000 From: Ben Laurie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Clinton Jones Cc: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: Transient Failure References: <0AFD5D3C726AD51190440002A574831FC5228F@MAIL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Clinton Jones wrote: > > I have just met with the vendors and they tell me that they believe that the > problem is the omnidirectional antennae, they are now proposing three grid > antennae with directional beams. they are of the opinion that there is > interference and that this will only affect one antennae if it is coming > from a particular direction. I shall suggest condensation/moisture as being > a possible cause however I have my doubts as our humidity is only around 15 > - 20% in this area. They have apparently switched channels as well but to > no avail. Errr ... surely if the output of the three antennae are combined you are no further forward with this proposal? Cheers, Ben. -- http://www.apache-ssl.org/ben.html http://www.thebunker.net/ "There is no limit to what a man can do or how far he can go if he doesn't mind who gets the credit." - Robert Woodruff From grail@goldweb.com.au Thu Jan 10 13:45:10 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from merlin.emma.house (CPE-203-51-28-72.nsw.bigpond.net.au [203.51.28.72]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308A64D31 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:45:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from pinky.emma.house (pinky.emma.house [10.1.254.205]) by merlin.emma.house (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E37B60886; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 08:42:06 +1100 (EST) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 08:41:57 +1100 Subject: Re: Transient Failure Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v480) Cc: wireless@samba.org To: Ben Laurie From: Alex Satrapa In-Reply-To: <3C3DD80E.EF32816C@algroup.co.uk> Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.480) Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Friday, January 11, 2002, at 05:06 , Ben Laurie wrote: > Errr ... surely if the output of the three antennae are combined you are > no further forward with this proposal? But with three antennae pointing in different directions, you would theoretically only get interference when the source(s) of interference are in the "field of view" of the directional antenna. Of course, if the source of interference is particularly close (US military radio in the same base, for example), then the directional antennae will still pick it up. Maybe they've got an American spy on base who's feeding information to her handlers by radio burst every morning before everyone else gets into work. Alex From jonesn@hursley.ibm.com Fri Jan 11 02:26:13 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail-gw1.hursley.ibm.com (mail-gw1.hursley.ibm.com [194.196.110.15]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC6D410E for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 02:26:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from sp15en17.hursley.ibm.com (sp15at17.hursley.ibm.com [9.20.45.103]) by mail-gw1.hursley.ibm.com (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15888 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:23:07 GMT Received: from snowdon (sinedeopnav1.de.ibm.com [9.141.221.33]) by sp15en17.hursley.ibm.com (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA53476 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:23:07 GMT Message-ID: <008f01c19a89$f69547e0$0300a8c0@hursley.ibm.com> Reply-To: "Nigel Jones" From: "Nigel Jones" To: Subject: Tx Error Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 09:21:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I'm using the orinoco driver 0.9a under RH 7.2 with pcmcia-cs-3.1.29, kernel 2.4.12 & a D-Link DWL-650 pccard at 8c3 firmware level (prism 2 chipset). Configuration is using 802.11b ad-hoc with 128bit WEP. Only 2 machines in net. Peer runs latest intersil w2k drivers for the same card (from SMC at the time) In my linux messages log I get errors like: Jan 11 07:59:39 localhost kernel: eth0: Tx error (FID=041A)! Jan 11 07:59:50 localhost kernel: eth0: Tx error (FID=05F1)! Jan 11 07:59:50 localhost kernel: eth0: Tx error (FID=0207)! Jan 11 07:59:55 localhost kernel: eth0: Tx error (FID=0536)! ... Jan 11 08:06:24 localhost kernel: eth0: Tx error (FID=01B1)! Jan 11 08:06:25 localhost kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out Jan 11 08:06:25 localhost kernel: eth0: Tx timeout! Resetting card. Jan 11 08:06:25 localhost kernel: About to write key 0, keylen=13 Jan 11 08:06:25 localhost kernel: About to write key 1, keylen=13 Jan 11 08:06:25 localhost kernel: About to write key 2, keylen=13 Jan 11 08:06:25 localhost kernel: About to write key 3, keylen=13 Jan 11 08:06:25 localhost kernel: eth0: Error -110 writing packet header to BAP Jan 11 08:06:25 localhost last message repeated 3 times Jan 11 08:06:25 localhost kernel: eth0: Tx error (FID=010F)! Jan 11 08:06:25 localhost kernel: eth0: Tx error (FID=0136)! .... Jan 11 08:06:44 localhost kernel: eth0: Tx error (FID=0186)! Jan 11 08:06:45 localhost kernel: eth0: Tx error (FID=01F3)! Jan 11 08:06:46 localhost kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out Jan 11 08:06:46 localhost kernel: eth0: Tx timeout! Resetting card. Jan 11 08:06:46 localhost kernel: About to write key 0, keylen=13 Jan 11 08:06:46 localhost kernel: About to write key 1, keylen=13 Jan 11 08:06:46 localhost kernel: About to write key 2, keylen=13 and this pretty much continues.the Tx errors occuring every few seconds The card isn't always reset I *think* this may have started when I enabled 128 bit WEP. I'll have to disable to see. -- Just did this. No difference! Here's my config: eth0 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"????" Nickname:"???" Mode:Ad-Hoc Frequency:2.452GHz Cell: 52:CA:65:??:??:?? Bit Rate:11Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity:1/3 Retry min limit:8 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Encryption key:????-????-????-????-????-????-?? Encryption mode:rest ricted Power Management:off Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:1933 invalid misc:0 ??? are my entries The invalid crypt remains fairly constant - much of the churn was when I was fiddling with the config On WIndows I have adhoc demo: off authentication algorithm: open system Channel: 9 driver ibss: enabled driver polling: disabled fragmentation: 2432 listen interval: 3 network: 802.11b adhoc powersave: disabled preamble: auto rts: 2432 ssid: ??? transmit: auto wep: 128 bit wep passphrase any (don't think this is used - I've entered my own key!) Thanks, -- Nigel Jones jonesn@hursley.ibm.com From jonesn@hursley.ibm.com Fri Jan 11 06:01:30 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail-gw1.hursley.ibm.com (mail-gw1.hursley.ibm.com [194.196.110.15]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1D2541B for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 06:01:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from sp15en17.hursley.ibm.com (sp15at17.hursley.ibm.com [9.20.45.103]) by mail-gw1.hursley.ibm.com (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA31862 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:58:13 GMT Received: from snowdon (sinedeopnav1.de.ibm.com [9.141.221.33]) by sp15en17.hursley.ibm.com (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA88258 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:58:13 GMT Message-ID: <020c01c19aa8$034a51b0$21dd8d09@snowdon> Reply-To: "Nigel Jones" From: "Nigel Jones" To: References: <008f01c19a89$f69547e0$0300a8c0@hursley.ibm.com> Subject: Re: Tx Error Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:39:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Jan 11 07:59:39 localhost kernel: eth0: Tx error (FID=041A)! > Jan 11 07:59:50 localhost kernel: eth0: Tx error (FID=05F1)! I should add that I AM using the adapter relatively successfully (I probably didn't make that clear), at least for DSL sharing at 512 kbps. There are occasional pauses/dropped packets though. -- Nigel Jones jonesn@hursley.ibm.com From post@danielwinkler.de Fri Jan 11 08:12:39 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from moutng1.schlund.de (moutng1.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.171]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC545517 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 08:12:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.20.224.220] (helo=mrvdom04.kundenserver.de) by moutng1.schlund.de with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #2) id 16P4FG-0006pO-00 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 17:09:30 +0100 Received: from [62.158.73.185] (helo=alpha) by mrvdom04.kundenserver.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 16P4FG-0002FJ-00 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 17:09:30 +0100 From: "Daniel Winkler" To: Subject: 2MBit wlan and linux drivers Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 17:09:29 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello, I have got problems with our 2MBit wavelan here. The infrastructure: - ELSA LanCom L-2 (2 MBit, Z-Com-wavelan card, cheap ;-), connected by Ethernet to an old Linux box (DHCP, Router, etc.) - ELSA AirLancer 11 (alias Orinoco), AirLancer 2 (Z-Com, same as build-in the access point) - Windows and Linux (SuSE Linux 7.3, Kernel 2.4.10, but same on other Linux dist.) I do not have any problems under Windows. But my cards do not work under Linux at all. The situation: I insert the card and start the PCMCIA services. No problems. But as soon as I restart the DHCP client to fetch an IP my system locks within 10 sec. Totally. (10 secondes, sometimes sooner, sometimes later..) No keyboard events are accepted, the Caps Lock LED is on and sometimes the system even reboots itsself. Without starting the DHCP service, iwconfig shows the right data, (Network, signal strength etc.), the driver is loaded without any errors, but as soon as I get an IP (yes, my PC gets an IP, but thats all..) the system locks. Console 10 tells me: "Oops: 0000 ... Code ... <0>Kernel panic: Aiee, killing interrut handler! In interrupt handler - not syncing" Some additional information: - My system works without problems at university (11MBit access points, also from ELSA). The same configuration causes a crash at home. - At university they also had a similar problem (killed Linux notebooks) after a firmware update. They fixed the problem by disabling an option like "disconnect all inactive clients". Unfortunately, my 2MBit access point does not offer an option like this to disable. Can anyone tell me how to fix this problem? TIA Daniel Winkler From ben@algroup.co.uk Fri Jan 11 09:18:41 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from scuzzy.ben.algroup.co.uk (sockittome.aldigital.co.uk [194.128.162.252]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14ACE412C for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 09:18:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from algroup.co.uk (wiese.ben.algroup.co.uk [193.133.15.150]) by scuzzy.ben.algroup.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 117FA174E7; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 17:15:36 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <3C3F1DB8.AF68B709@algroup.co.uk> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 17:15:36 +0000 From: Ben Laurie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Satrapa Cc: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: Transient Failure References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Alex Satrapa wrote: > > On Friday, January 11, 2002, at 05:06 , Ben Laurie wrote: > > > Errr ... surely if the output of the three antennae are combined you are > > no further forward with this proposal? > > But with three antennae pointing in different directions, you would > theoretically only get interference when the source(s) of interference > are in the "field of view" of the directional antenna. I was assuming they were talking about constructing an omni with three not-very-directional antennae, but perhaps I misunderstood. Cheers, Ben. -- http://www.apache-ssl.org/ben.html http://www.thebunker.net/ "There is no limit to what a man can do or how far he can go if he doesn't mind who gets the credit." - Robert Woodruff From tony@tonsyl.org Fri Jan 11 22:33:48 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from tonsyl.org (89.137.56.203.cns.nq.net [203.56.137.89]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8976F4152 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 22:33:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 30314 invoked by uid 8); 12 Jan 2002 06:30:40 -0000 Received: from pc-00150 (192.120.0.150, claiming to be "amd") by tonsyl.tonsyl.org with SMTP id smtpdpn4Jt2; Sat, 12 Jan 2002 01:30:34 EST Message-ID: <005a01c19b32$aaa821a0$960078c0@tonsyl.org> Reply-To: "Tony Smith" From: "Tony Smith" To: Subject: Cairns free net Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 16:30:45 +1000 Organization: The Smith Company of Cairns X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Everyone. If I could take a minute of your time. I and my good friend Kent Parkinson are in the process of establishing a free to air wireless lan centred at Clifton Beach 26kms north of Cairns. This is a true "bucks down" adventure for both of us as I am a university student and Kent is a former Ansett employee and soon-to-be-university-student. The radio lan is a 100% hobby activity for us. The presently planned scope of our lan is to cover 300 metres from my place to Kent's and then to try to bring a third friend, Hans, who lives around 2kms away online as well. Our policy will be that anyone who is able to connect will be granted access for as long as they do not unreasonably annoy any other member or members. Access to the internet will be available via a shared ISDN single channel connection that may in time become a dual channel. We are currently at the "collection of equipment phase" having settled on the use of the Linux O/S to provide the actual routing software. Currently we have an impressive collection of "junk" hardware into which radio lan cards can be fitted. Sufficent experimentation entailing the testing of LRP and Freesco using wired lan cards has provided us with the software knowledge to proceed to the wireless networking phase with some expectation that it might actualyl work. Likewise we have settled on antenna designs and will shortly begin fabricating a helical whip and two yagi antennas. The exact type of radio card to be used is not yet settled. This will be determined by which auctions we win on Ebay over the next couple of weeks, but due to the non-availability of the Wave Lan Isa cards we wanted, they will probably be Compaq WL200s or similar. Lastly, if anyone has any hardware (particularly wireless lan cards or aerials) that are no longer suitable for their particular needs, we may be able to provide a ready market in the short term. Thank you for your time. Cheers Tony Smith Connected to the internet in Sunny Far North Queensland Australia http://www.tonsyl.org From ckpwong@yahoo.com Fri Jan 11 23:42:53 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from smtp018.mail.yahoo.com (smtp018.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.115]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 030034222 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 23:42:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from cs65640-a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com (HELO yahoo.com) (24.112.27.11) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jan 2002 07:39:47 -0000 Message-ID: <3C3FE83D.2080705@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 02:39:41 -0500 From: Cindy Wong User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.7+) Gecko/20020111 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: MELCO support? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I'm new to the list and Linux. In fact I have only installed Mandrake 8.1 on an older computer. The computer has MELCO's WLI-PCM-L11 and WLI-PCI-OP installed. The access point is Orinoco RG-1000. Everything works fine except for the wireless card. In fact, Mandrake could detect the card and loads driver wvlan_cs for it. However, networking doesn't work. When I run dhcpcd, it spills out hte message: wvlan_cs: eth0 timed out! Resetting card iwconfig showed that the card could detect the AP, although only at 2Mbps. I tried using the orinoco_cs driver instead, but with this driver I couldn't even set the essid and it couldn't detect the AP. I read some archived message on this list and found out that it could be the problem of WLI-PCI-OP. Is that true? Anyone has better luck with this card and bridge? The kernel is a Mandrake-modified 2.4.8-34mdk. Thank you very much! Cindy _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Clinton.Jones@almarai.com Sat Jan 12 01:13:18 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from mail.almarai.com (unknown [212.70.36.66]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E0C64152 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2002 01:13:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by MAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Sat, 12 Jan 2002 12:07:39 +0300 Message-ID: <0AFD5D3C726AD51190440002A574831FC52CA1@MAIL> From: Clinton Jones To: Ben Laurie Cc: wireless@samba.org Subject: RE: Transient Failure Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 12:07:39 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: The three antennae will be in place of the omnidirectional -----Original Message----- From: Ben Laurie [mailto:ben@algroup.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:06 PM To: Clinton Jones Cc: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: Transient Failure Errr ... surely if the output of the three antennae are combined you are no further forward with this proposal? 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From dgibson@samba.org Sun Jan 13 14:57:22 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id D405642A0; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 14:56:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 09:42:13 +1100 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: MELCO support? Message-ID: <20020113224213.GC7511@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <3C3FE83D.2080705@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3C3FE83D.2080705@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 02:39:41AM -0500, Cindy Wong wrote: > Hi, > > I'm new to the list and Linux. In fact I have only installed Mandrake > 8.1 on an older computer. The computer has MELCO's WLI-PCM-L11 and > WLI-PCI-OP installed. The access point is Orinoco RG-1000. Everything > works fine except for the wireless card. In fact, Mandrake could detect > the card and loads driver wvlan_cs for it. However, networking doesn't > work. When I run dhcpcd, it spills out hte message: > > wvlan_cs: eth0 timed out! Resetting card > > iwconfig showed that the card could detect the AP, although only at 2Mbps. > > I tried using the orinoco_cs driver instead, but with this driver I > couldn't even set the essid and it couldn't detect the AP. How did you attempt to set the essid? What error messages did you see? -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From dgibson@samba.org Sun Jan 13 15:08:31 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id CE77D4362; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 15:08:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 09:54:48 +1100 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Tx Error Message-ID: <20020113225448.GF7511@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <008f01c19a89$f69547e0$0300a8c0@hursley.ibm.com> <020c01c19aa8$034a51b0$21dd8d09@snowdon> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <020c01c19aa8$034a51b0$21dd8d09@snowdon> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 01:39:30PM -0000, Nigel Jones wrote: > > > Jan 11 07:59:39 localhost kernel: eth0: Tx error (FID=041A)! > > Jan 11 07:59:50 localhost kernel: eth0: Tx error (FID=05F1)! > > I should add that I AM using the adapter relatively successfully (I probably > didn't make that clear), at least for DSL sharing at 512 kbps. There are > occasional pauses/dropped packets though. Yeah, known problem. Prior to 0.09 we were waking up the Tx queue much, *much* more aggressively than we should have been which led to bad things. Now that we're not, we do get Tx timeouts, but for most people at least the link is more usable than before. I do have some ideas on what's causing the timeouts but I'm still investigating. -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From dgibson@samba.org Sun Jan 13 15:08:31 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id 014A24137; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 15:08:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:05:18 +1100 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: 2MBit wlan and linux drivers Message-ID: <20020113230518.GG7511@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 05:09:29PM +0100, Daniel Winkler wrote: > Hello, > > I have got problems with our 2MBit wavelan here. The infrastructure: > > - ELSA LanCom L-2 (2 MBit, Z-Com-wavelan card, cheap ;-), connected by > Ethernet to an old Linux box (DHCP, Router, etc.) > - ELSA AirLancer 11 (alias Orinoco), AirLancer 2 (Z-Com, same as build-in > the access point) > - Windows and Linux (SuSE Linux 7.3, Kernel 2.4.10, but same on other Linux > dist.) > > I do not have any problems under Windows. But my cards do not work under > Linux at all. > > The situation: > I insert the card and start the PCMCIA services. No problems. But as soon as > I restart the DHCP client to fetch an IP my system locks within 10 sec. > Totally. (10 secondes, sometimes sooner, sometimes later..) No > keyboard Ouch. I assume this is on the machine with the AirLancer 11 - I don't know anything about the 2Mb cards, or the state of their drivers. > events are accepted, the Caps Lock LED is on and sometimes the system even > reboots itsself. Without starting the DHCP service, iwconfig shows the right > data, (Network, signal strength etc.), the driver is loaded without > any Be aware that the information iwconfig gives will be misleading if the interface is down at the time. > errors, but as soon as I get an IP (yes, my PC gets an IP, but thats all..) > the system locks. Console 10 tells me: That's doubly weird, ok. > "Oops: 0000 > ... > Code ... > <0>Kernel panic: Aiee, killing interrut handler! > In interrupt handler - not syncing" What would be really useful is an actual capture of the Oops message. However that's going to be tricky since you're getting a complete hang. As a first step could you try grabiing the latest driver (0.09a) from http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson/dldwd and seeing if it has the same symptoms (I expect it will). Are you using the "Linus" in-kernel PCMCIA modules, or those from the David Hinds pcmcia-cs package? -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From post@danielwinkler.de Mon Jan 14 08:55:10 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mout03.kundenserver.de (mout03.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.218]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD45854B9 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 08:53:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.20.224.219] (helo=mrvdom03.kundenserver.de) by mout03.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 16QAJ6-0006XG-00 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 17:50:00 +0100 Received: from [80.139.195.123] (helo=alpha) by mrvdom03.kundenserver.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 16QAJ6-0001kv-00 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 17:50:00 +0100 From: "Daniel Winkler" To: Subject: 2MBit wlan and linux drivers (UPDATE) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 17:49:54 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello again, now I tried something new: I took the 2MBit-Card out of the access point and replaced it by an AirLancer with 11Mbit. Great, the L-2 access point did 11Mbit then. The effects: - My LINUX DRIVERS WORKED properly!!! No crashs, no panics. Great!! :-))) - My old 2MBit-Cards could not find any WLan.. (only windows tested, no linux drivers present) :-((((((( It would be a bit expensive for us to replace all 2Mbit-Cards by 11Mbit-Cards; I have already seen an AirLancer 2 in a 11Mbit-LAN (using windows), too.. Could someone tell me what I could do now? Am I so stupid? TIA a confused Daniel Winkler From nicola76@inwind.it Mon Jan 14 12:11:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailrelay1.inwind.it (mailrelay1.inwind.it [212.141.54.101]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F374C571B for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:02:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from matteonicola (62.98.10.86) by mailrelay1.inwind.it (5.5.053) id 3C3ABE24003456EB for wireless@lists.samba.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 20:58:50 +0100 Message-ID: <002801c19d36$1e031d80$560a623e@matteonicola> From: "Nicola76" To: Subject: HCF-light library trouble Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 21:00:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01C19D3E.7F413E80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Messaggio in formato MIME composto da più parti. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C19D3E.7F413E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Wireless List, i sent you month ago any email about hcf light library from LUCENT ( i = use two ORINOCO PCMCIA card under Win98). Well, first i have write two = driver with this library, driverTX and driverRX where first driver send = packet and second driver receive and show it. I reach to initialize and = enable MAC port 0 but the i can't estabish a link between two station. For driverTX i have set following RID: before hcf_enable( ) -cnfPortType=3D3 (pseudo IBSS) -cnfOwnSSID=3D'prova' -cnfOwnChannel=3D10=20 -and read MAC address fron cnfOwnMacAddress afet hcf_enable( ) -Create IBSS=3D1 (station create IBSS with name prova!?, is correct? ) For driverRX i have set before hcf_enable( ) -cnfPortType=3D3 (pseudo IBSS) -cnfDesideredSSID=3D'prova' -and read MAC address fron cnfOwnMacAddress after hcf_enable( ) -Create IBSS=3D0 (Not create IBSS) for Intersil firmware there are RID SCAN REQUEST (0xFC85) and JOIN = (0xFCE2) but in HCF-light library there aren't! I look Comunication Tallies and i see that i don't trasmit nothing! But i use hcf_put data ( i fill the trasmit frame with MAC HEDAR = (address dst src and lenght field) and PAYOLAD. Then i call hcf_send.=20 In DriverRX call in polling mode hcf_service_nic( ) and control RxLen = field in IFBP. If then i call hcf_service_nic( ) and look EVSTATUS register, the last = command code is 0x0B, the correct code for trasmit and the result filed = is 0, like for correct execution. =20 I don't understand what i need to do for trasmit frame, i think there = was to initialize, enable port, set any RID and then with hcf_put_data = and hcf_send trasmit the frame! Can you help me? Do you remember what to = do to establish link and then exchang packet? Please send me any = response as soon as you can, Thank you very much for all, NICOLA MORELLI University of Brescia, Italy =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C19D3E.7F413E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Wireless List,
i sent you month ago any email about = hcf light=20 library from LUCENT ( i use two ORINOCO PCMCIA card under Win98). Well, = first i=20 have write two driver with this library, driverTX and driverRX where = first=20 driver send packet and second driver receive and show it. I reach to = initialize=20 and enable MAC port 0 but the i can't estabish a link between two=20 station.
For driverTX i have set following = RID:
before hcf_enable( )
-cnfPortType=3D3 (pseudo = IBSS)
-cnfOwnSSID=3D'prova'
-cnfOwnChannel=3D10 
-and read MAC address fron=20 cnfOwnMacAddress
 
afet hcf_enable( )
-Create IBSS=3D1 (station create IBSS = with name=20 prova!?, is correct? )
 
For driverRX i have set
before hcf_enable( )
-cnfPortType=3D3 (pseudo = IBSS)
-cnfDesideredSSID=3D'prova'
-and read MAC address fron=20 cnfOwnMacAddress
 
after hcf_enable( )
-Create IBSS=3D0 (Not create = IBSS)
 
for Intersil firmware there are = RID  SCAN=20 REQUEST (0xFC85) and JOIN (0xFCE2) but in HCF-light = library
there aren't!
I look Comunication Tallies and i = see that=20 i don't trasmit nothing!
But i use hcf_put data ( i = fill the=20 trasmit frame with MAC HEDAR (address dst src and lenght field)=20 and PAYOLAD.
Then i call = hcf_send. 
In DriverRX call in polling mode = hcf_service_nic( )=20 and control RxLen field in IFBP.
If then i call hcf_service_nic( ) = and look=20 EVSTATUS register, the last command code is 0x0B, the correct code for = trasmit=20 and the result filed is 0, like for correct execution.  
I don't understand what i need to do = for trasmit=20 frame, i think there was to initialize, enable port, set any RID and = then with=20 hcf_put_data and hcf_send trasmit the frame! Can you help me? = Do you=20 remember what to do to establish link and=20 then exchang packet? Please send me any response as = soon as=20 you can, Thank you very much for all,
 
NICOLA MORELLI
University of Brescia, = Italy  =20
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C19D3E.7F413E80-- From dgibson@samba.org Mon Jan 14 16:29:18 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id 29E6A5919; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:59:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:56:06 +1100 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: 2MBit wlan and linux drivers (UPDATE) Message-ID: <20020114235606.GJ28525@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 05:49:54PM +0100, Daniel Winkler wrote: > Hello again, > > now I tried something new: I took the 2MBit-Card out of the access point and > replaced it by an AirLancer with 11Mbit. Great, the L-2 access point did > 11Mbit then. The effects: > > - My LINUX DRIVERS WORKED properly!!! No crashs, no panics. Great!! :-))) Interesting. Has the card in the Linux machine changed? -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From michael_c_wilson@yahoo.com Mon Jan 14 18:34:35 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from web14008.mail.yahoo.com (web14008.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.124]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4AE534701 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 18:11:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020115020801.96010.qmail@web14008.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.91.9.49] by web14008.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:08:01 EST Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:08:01 +1100 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Michael=20Wilson?= Subject: Availability / Coverage in Ngunnawal and Nicholls To: wireless@lists.samba.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I am new to the list, Can anybody provide me the current coverage of Gungahlin and suburbs. Thanks Michael http://my.yahoo.com.au - My Yahoo! - It's My Yahoo! Get your own! From ckpwong@yahoo.com Mon Jan 14 19:50:16 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from smtp017.mail.yahoo.com (smtp017.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.114]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2023A415F for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:50:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from cs65640-a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com (HELO yahoo.com) (24.112.27.11) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2002 03:46:58 -0000 Message-ID: <3C43A62F.4030107@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 22:46:55 -0500 From: Cindy Wong User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.7+) Gecko/20020111 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: MELCO support? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: >How did you attempt to set the essid? What error messages did you see? > After doing more research on Google (and with the help of the fish for documents in Japanese), I found out the problem is actually with the PCI-PCMCIA bridge. All I had to do was to put the lines in /etc/sysconfig/pcmcia: PCIC=i82365 PCIC_OPTS="irq_mode=0" Someone ought to put this in the wireless HOWTO, because I've seen so many people with the similar problem, who usually blame the wvlan_cs driver and then turn away from linux all together. Cindy _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From ratankti@sify.com Tue Jan 15 02:09:31 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from webmail1.maa.sify.net (unknown [202.144.76.17]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A8D34D36 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 01:45:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 20030 invoked by uid 99); 15 Jan 2002 15:00:20 +0530 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: wireless network Message-ID: <1011087020.3c43f6ac4e21b@webmail1.maa.sify.net> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 15:00:20 +0600 (IST) From: ratankti@sify.com Cc: haobam@mail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I am planning to setup a wireless network ai Imphal, India with a radial distance of about 1 kilometres. The initial members for the network will be about 30-40 in numbers. Kindly send the hardware requirements for the project which might be enlarged to about 100 members in future. Thanks and regards. Ratan ------------------------------------------------- This mail helped a tree grow. Know more at http://green.sify.com Take the shortest route to success! Click here to know how http://education.sify.com From tchouto@fokus.gmd.de Tue Jan 15 02:42:31 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (mailhub.fokus.gmd.de [193.174.154.14]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE7240C5 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 02:42:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from lakota.fokus.gmd.de (lakota [193.175.135.162]) by mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0FAd8h04462 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:39:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by lakota.fokus.gmd.de (8.11.6/linuxconf) id g0FAcJi15437 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:38:19 +0100 Message-Id: <200201151038.g0FAcJi15437@lakota.fokus.gmd.de> From: Jean-Jacques Tchouto Organization: Fraunhofer FOKUS To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Fwd: TX error Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:38:19 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_VV6ZTXT8CFZ3UP9TTAO8" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --------------Boundary-00=_VV6ZTXT8CFZ3UP9TTAO8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: TX error Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:26:04 +0100 From: Jean-Jacques Tchouto To: david@gibson.dropbear.id.au Hi, I successfully install and run the orinoco-009a on my Linux maschine (kernel 2.4.18-pre2), and I use the Lucent IEEE802.11 WLAN cards(firmware 7.52). Running a Streaming video application which uses about 1 Mbps, and looking the output of /var/log/messages, ist allways a Transmit error. Attached to this mail you will find a log file which details the TX-error. I need some advices. Best Regards, Jean-Jacques -- >------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- >---> Dipl-Ing. Jean-Jacques Tchouto =09=09Tel.: +49-30-34637268=09=09> > Advanced Network Technologies and Systems=09Fax : +49-30-34838268=09=09= > > CATS, FHG-FOKUS, BERLIN GERMANY=09=09e-mail: tchouto@fokus.gmd.de=09> > http://www.fokus.gmd.de/usr/tchouto=09=09Mobile: +49 179 5722065=09=09> >------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- >---> ------------------------------------------------------- --=20 >------------------------------------------------------------------------= -------> > Dipl-Ing. 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NTA6NDkgc21hcnQwMSBrZXJuZWw6IGV0aDE6IFR4IGVycm9yIChGSUQ9MDE0MikhCg== --------------Boundary-00=_VV6ZTXT8CFZ3UP9TTAO8-- From erno@fabulous.u--3.com Tue Jan 15 03:25:57 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from fabulous.u--3.com (fabulous.u--3.com [212.50.142.250]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B76946ED for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 03:25:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by fabulous.u--3.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1AF25580036; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:22:39 +0200 (EET) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:22:38 +0200 From: Erno Kuusela To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: No sigal info with orinoco_cs in ad-hoc mode? Message-ID: <20020115132238.C810@fabulous.u--3.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: 26-dimensional hypercube X-PGP-Key-URL: http://212.50.142.250/dsakey.asc - please use it! Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: hello, i want to see the signal quality metrics for a few other devices/access points. i understand i have to use ad-hoc mode in order to do that. however, here's what happens: sh-2.03# iwconfig lo no wireless extensions. Warning : Device eth0 has been compiled with version 11 of Wireless Extension, while we are using version 12. Some things may be broken... eth0 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"Monica" Nickname:"familiar" Mode:Ad-Hoc Frequency:2.412GHz Cell: 00:60:1D:F1:20:CF Bit Rate:5.5Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity:1/3 Retry limit:4 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Encryption key:off Power Management:off Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 sh-2.03# iwspy eth0 + 00:60:1D:F1:20:CF sh-2.03# cat /proc/net/wireless Inter-| sta-| Quality | Discarded packets face | tus | link level noise | nwid crypt misc eth0: 0000 0 0 0 0 0 0 sh-2.03# also if i use managed mode, i get metrics, but they don't seem to change (?) when i move around the office and hallways. i get: Link Quality:159/92 Signal level:7/153 Noise level:0/153 the link quality value fluctuates sometimes changes a bit between 158 and 160, but doesn't seem to correlate with moving around (even if i go out of range so ping doesn't get through anymore.) (i noticed the 11 vs 12 version discrepancy that iwconfig reports, but by looking at the driver source this doesn't seem like it would affect the iwconfig readings. also /proc/net/wireless reports the same numbers.) i am doing this on a ipaq. familiar 0.5 prerelease, kernel 2.4.7-rmk3-np1-devfs, orinoco_cs version 0.07. any ideas greatly appreciated. please cc me as i'm not subscribed to the list. (i read the archives though) -- erno From erno@fabulous.u--3.com Tue Jan 15 03:38:32 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from fabulous.u--3.com (fabulous.u--3.com [212.50.142.250]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 707174A4C for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 03:38:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by fabulous.u--3.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 99D9A580036; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:35:15 +0200 (EET) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:35:15 +0200 From: Erno Kuusela To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: No sigal info with orinoco_cs in ad-hoc mode? Message-ID: <20020115133515.E810@fabulous.u--3.com> References: <20020115132238.C810@fabulous.u--3.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020115132238.C810@fabulous.u--3.com>; from erno.kuusela@oulu.fi on Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 01:22:38PM +0200 Organization: 26-dimensional hypercube X-PGP-Key-URL: http://212.50.142.250/dsakey.asc - please use it! Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: hello, forgot to say what card i am using: Jan 1 02:58:23 localhost cardmgr[87]: socket 0: Compaq WL110 PC Card on the card it says "lucent technologies", "ieee 802.11 wavelan", "turbo 11mb" and "silver". -- erno From jon@unicomsystems.com Tue Jan 15 06:39:07 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from new-smtp1.ihug.com.au (new-smtp1.ihug.com.au [203.109.250.27]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DBBC4DE9 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 06:29:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from netcache-c760.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au (kumera.ihug.com.au [203.109.250.78]) by new-smtp1.ihug.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with SMTP id AAA07218 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 00:09:20 +1100 From: jon@unicomsystems.com Message-Id: <200201151309.AAA07218@new-smtp1.ihug.com.au> X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp1.ihug.com.au: Host kumera.ihug.com.au [203.109.250.78] claimed to be netcache-c760.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Sydney Wireless Mailing List up Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:09:20 GMT X-Mailer: Endymion MailMan Standard Edition v3.0.24 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Just a quick message to inform people that the Sydney Wireless Mailing List is now up. The subscription page can be reached at: http://sydney.air.net.au/mailman/listinfo/syd-wireless --Jon Teh - Sydney Wireless Network From jon@unicomsystems.com Tue Jan 15 06:39:22 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from new-smtp2.ihug.com.au (new-smtp2.ihug.com.au [203.109.250.28]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C444E5A for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 06:30:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from netcache-c760.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au (kumera.ihug.com.au [203.109.250.78]) by new-smtp2.ihug.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with SMTP id XAA01004 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 23:54:36 +1100 Message-Id: <200201151254.XAA01004@new-smtp2.ihug.com.au> X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp2.ihug.com.au: Host kumera.ihug.com.au [203.109.250.78] claimed to be netcache-c760.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au To: wireless@lists.samba.org From: Jon Teh Subject: Sydney Wireless Mailing List up Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:54:36 GMT X-Mailer: Endymion MailMan Standard Edition v3.0.24 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Just a quick message to inform people that the Sydney Wireless Mailing List is now up. The subscription page can be reached at: http://sydney.air.net.au/mailman/listinfo/syd-wireless --Jon Teh - Sydney Wireless Network From m.dent@lancaster.ac.uk Tue Jan 15 09:46:32 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from zooty.lancs.ac.uk (zooty.lancs.ac.uk [148.88.16.231]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 183145124 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 09:10:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from exchange-ims.lancs.ac.uk ([148.88.17.22]) by zooty.lancs.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 16QSc7-0004b4-00 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:22:51 +0000 Received: by exchange-ims.lancs.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:22:52 -0000 Message-ID: <45EA1063C2F8D211915800204808343B01F0E15E@exchange1.lancs.ac.uk> From: "Dent, Mike" To: "'wireless@lists.samba.org'" Subject: Access points and "hidden transmitter syndrome" !? Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:22:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I come from a ham radio and packet radio background so I realise the effects of the so called "hidden transmitter syndrome". This is where station A, can hear client B and client C but alas client B cannot hear client C and visa versa. So it is possible for client B and C to both transmit packets to station A simultaneously, station A does not recognise the clashing packets and ignores it. What I would like to know is if the 802.11b protocol in the Access Points takes any of this in to account, or does it simply use CSMA with CA and hope all its clients can communicate with each other? I realise clients can be set to use infrastructure/BSS mode to only communicate through the AP but this does not take in to account more than 1 client trying to access the AP at the same time..... or does it?? I'm setting up a small community network at home, I am the access point and two neighbours the clients but they cannot hear each other. Thanks for any info. Mike > -- > Mike Dent, > Chief Technician, > ISS, > Computer Centre, > Lancaster University, Lancaster, LA1 4YW. > > > From Clinton.Jones@almarai.com Tue Jan 15 12:59:38 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail.almarai.com (unknown [212.70.36.66]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B261952D5 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:32:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by MAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 16:39:16 +0300 Message-ID: <0AFD5D3C726AD51190440002A574831FCA6F13@MAIL> From: Clinton Jones To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: wireless network Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 16:39:15 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: How do you want to connect the users, one by one or site by site, do you have local area networks in the adjacent buildings ? Clinton Jones Manager - Infrastructure and Technical Support Almarai Company Ltd, PO Box 8524, Riyadh, 11492 Saudi Arabia Telephone :+966 (01) 4700005 Ext 444 Mobile : +966 (053) 255183 Fax :+966 1 4701555 Telex 405806 MRAI SJ ______________________________________________________________________ Information in this message is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this email. Please notify the sender if you have received this e-mail in error and delete the message from your system immediately. Almarai cannot accept any responsibility for the accuracy or completeness of this message as it has been transmitted over a public network. Although Almarai operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. 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From falbinali@yahoo.com Tue Jan 15 13:24:21 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from web11607.mail.yahoo.com (web11607.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.59]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1422A5BCD for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:53:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020115204305.94822.qmail@web11607.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.196.112.204] by web11607.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:43:05 PST Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:43:05 -0800 (PST) From: Subject: Inter-cell Coordination and Management To: wireless@lists.samba.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I need your help!. Does anyone know if there are (were) efforts in developing a distribution system in WLANs with multiple access points, that coordinate together to service the clients. Thus, they do not work independently but are tightly coupled. Thank you. falbinali __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From Alfred.Reynolds@dsto.defence.gov.au Tue Jan 15 15:03:46 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F3F552D2 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:52:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g0FMmaF09110 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:18:36 +1030 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:19:22 +1030 Received: from salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au (salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.9]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id JAA30815; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:13:38 +1030 (CST) Received: from fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au ([144.97.171.1]) by salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id C81AKRVV; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:13:37 +1030 Received: by fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4WMNTJXC>; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:43:22 +1100 Message-ID: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C065C2E8@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> From: "Reynolds, Alfred" To: "'Dent, Mike'" , "'wireless@lists.samba.org'" Subject: RE: Access points and "hidden transmitter syndrome" !? Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:43:21 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: The term for this problem in the networking world is the "hidden station problem". It is solved by 802.11b by using the RTS/CTS handshake at the beginning of a transmission. In your situation, if A send a RTS to B then C would also hear the RTS and would backoff on any transmissions. This media access control method is called "MACA". To make it collision free you can add data frame acks and it is then called MACAW (multiple access with collision aviodance). 802.11 also used carrier detection to avoid collisions on a channel. > -----Original Message----- > From: Dent, Mike [mailto:m.dent@lancaster.ac.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:23 PM > To: 'wireless@lists.samba.org' > Subject: Access points and "hidden transmitter syndrome" !? > > > Hi, I come from a ham radio and packet radio background so I > realise the > effects of the so called "hidden transmitter syndrome". > > This is where station A, can hear client B and client C but > alas client B > cannot hear client C and visa versa. > So it is possible for client B and C to both transmit packets > to station A > simultaneously, station A does not recognise the clashing > packets and ignores > it. > > What I would like to know is if the 802.11b protocol in the > Access Points takes > any of this in to account, or does it simply use CSMA with CA > and hope all > its clients can communicate with each other? I realise > clients can be set to > use infrastructure/BSS mode to only communicate through the > AP but this does > not > take in to account more than 1 client trying to access the AP > at the same > time..... or does it?? > > I'm setting up a small community network at home, I am the > access point and two > neighbours the clients but they cannot hear each other. > > Thanks for any info. > > Mike > > > > -- > > Mike Dent, > > Chief Technician, > > ISS, > > Computer Centre, > > Lancaster University, Lancaster, LA1 4YW. > > > > > > > From dgibson@samba.org Tue Jan 15 15:15:10 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id 001C4530D; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:57:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:48:52 +1100 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Cc: Erno Kuusela Subject: Re: No sigal info with orinoco_cs in ad-hoc mode? Message-ID: <20020115224852.GB5801@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org, Erno Kuusela References: <20020115132238.C810@fabulous.u--3.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020115132238.C810@fabulous.u--3.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 01:22:38PM +0200, Erno Kuusela wrote: > hello, > > i want to see the signal quality metrics for a few other devices/access > points. i understand i have to use ad-hoc mode in order to do that. > > however, here's what happens: > > sh-2.03# iwconfig > lo no wireless extensions. > > Warning : Device eth0 has been compiled with version 11 > of Wireless Extension, while we are using version 12. > Some things may be broken... > > eth0 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"Monica" Nickname:"familiar" > Mode:Ad-Hoc Frequency:2.412GHz Cell: 00:60:1D:F1:20:CF > Bit Rate:5.5Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity:1/3 > Retry limit:4 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off > Encryption key:off > Power Management:off > Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 > Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 > > sh-2.03# iwspy eth0 + 00:60:1D:F1:20:CF > sh-2.03# cat /proc/net/wireless > Inter-| sta-| Quality | Discarded packets > face | tus | link level noise | nwid crypt misc > eth0: 0000 0 0 0 0 0 0 > sh-2.03# The overall statistics are meaningless for an ad-hoc network, because signal levels vary per host. To get the iwspy stats you'll need to use the iwspy tool, and in any case the stats won't be updated until you actually receive a packet from the host in question. -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From icey@linuxgateways.com Tue Jan 15 22:39:58 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from jxmls03.se.mediaone.net (jxmls03.se.mediaone.net [24.129.0.111]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 772AB4633 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:39:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from jackmeoff (att-98-126-17.atl.mediaone.net [24.98.126.17]) by jxmls03.se.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id g0G6bjv24005 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:37:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000e01c19e71$3f6f5b00$0200a8c0@jackmeoff> From: "icey" To: References: <20020115142818.BCA695000@lists.samba.org> Subject: Re: wireless digest, Vol 1 #444 - 2 msgs Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:36:17 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 6:28 AM Subject: wireless digest, Vol 1 #444 - 2 msgs > Send wireless mailing list submissions to > wireless@lists.samba.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.samba.org/listinfo/wireless > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wireless-request@lists.samba.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wireless-admin@lists.samba.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of wireless digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. No sigal info with orinoco_cs in ad-hoc mode? (Erno Kuusela) > 2. Re: No sigal info with orinoco_cs in ad-hoc mode? (Erno Kuusela) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:22:38 +0200 > From: Erno Kuusela > To: wireless@lists.samba.org > Subject: No sigal info with orinoco_cs in ad-hoc mode? > Organization: 26-dimensional hypercube > > hello, > > i want to see the signal quality metrics for a few other devices/access > points. i understand i have to use ad-hoc mode in order to do that. > > however, here's what happens: > > sh-2.03# iwconfig > lo no wireless extensions. > > Warning : Device eth0 has been compiled with version 11 > of Wireless Extension, while we are using version 12. > Some things may be broken... > > eth0 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"Monica" Nickname:"familiar" > Mode:Ad-Hoc Frequency:2.412GHz Cell: 00:60:1D:F1:20:CF > Bit Rate:5.5Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity:1/3 > Retry limit:4 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off > Encryption key:off > Power Management:off > Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 > Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 > > sh-2.03# iwspy eth0 + 00:60:1D:F1:20:CF > sh-2.03# cat /proc/net/wireless > Inter-| sta-| Quality | Discarded packets > face | tus | link level noise | nwid crypt misc > eth0: 0000 0 0 0 0 0 0 > sh-2.03# > > > also if i use managed mode, i get metrics, but they don't seem to change (?) > when i move around the office and hallways. > i get: > Link Quality:159/92 Signal level:7/153 Noise level:0/153 > > the link quality value fluctuates sometimes changes a bit > between 158 and 160, but doesn't seem to correlate with moving > around (even if i go out of range so ping doesn't get through anymore.) > > (i noticed the 11 vs 12 version discrepancy that iwconfig reports, > but by looking at the driver source this doesn't seem like > it would affect the iwconfig readings. also /proc/net/wireless reports > the same numbers.) > > i am doing this on a ipaq. familiar 0.5 prerelease, kernel > 2.4.7-rmk3-np1-devfs, orinoco_cs version 0.07. > > any ideas greatly appreciated. > > please cc me as i'm not subscribed to the list. (i read the archives > though) > > -- erno > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:35:15 +0200 > From: Erno Kuusela > To: wireless@lists.samba.org > Subject: Re: No sigal info with orinoco_cs in ad-hoc mode? > Organization: 26-dimensional hypercube > > hello, > > forgot to say what card i am using: > Jan 1 02:58:23 localhost cardmgr[87]: socket 0: Compaq WL110 PC Card > on the card it says > "lucent technologies", "ieee 802.11 wavelan", "turbo 11mb" and "silver". > > -- erno > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > wireless mailing list > wireless@lists.samba.org > http://lists.samba.org/listinfo/wireless > > > End of wireless Digest From icey@linuxgateways.com Tue Jan 15 22:40:11 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from jxmls03.se.mediaone.net (jxmls03.se.mediaone.net [24.129.0.111]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 229AD4633 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:40:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from jackmeoff (att-98-126-17.atl.mediaone.net [24.98.126.17]) by jxmls03.se.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id g0G6btv24043 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:37:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002601c19e71$45a79c30$0200a8c0@jackmeoff> From: "icey" To: References: <20020115104410.DFDBE467D@lists.samba.org> Subject: Re: wireless digest, Vol 1 #443 - 7 msgs Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:36:27 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:44 AM Subject: wireless digest, Vol 1 #443 - 7 msgs > Send wireless mailing list submissions to > wireless@lists.samba.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.samba.org/listinfo/wireless > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wireless-request@lists.samba.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wireless-admin@lists.samba.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of wireless digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. 2MBit wlan and linux drivers (UPDATE) (Daniel Winkler) > 2. HCF-light library trouble (Nicola76) > 3. Re: 2MBit wlan and linux drivers (UPDATE) (David Gibson) > 4. Availability / Coverage in Ngunnawal and Nicholls (=?iso-8859-1?q?Michael=20Wilson?=) > 5. Re: MELCO support? (Cindy Wong) > 6. wireless network (ratankti@sify.com) > 7. Fwd: TX error (Jean-Jacques Tchouto) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > From: "Daniel Winkler" > To: > Subject: 2MBit wlan and linux drivers (UPDATE) > Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 17:49:54 +0100 > > Hello again, > > now I tried something new: I took the 2MBit-Card out of the access point and > replaced it by an AirLancer with 11Mbit. Great, the L-2 access point did > 11Mbit then. The effects: > > - My LINUX DRIVERS WORKED properly!!! No crashs, no panics. Great!! :-))) > - My old 2MBit-Cards could not find any WLan.. (only windows tested, no > linux drivers present) :-((((((( > > It would be a bit expensive for us to replace all 2Mbit-Cards by > 11Mbit-Cards; I have already seen an AirLancer 2 in a 11Mbit-LAN (using > windows), too.. > > Could someone tell me what I could do now? Am I so stupid? > > > TIA > > a confused Daniel Winkler > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > From: "Nicola76" > To: > Subject: HCF-light library trouble > Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 21:00:29 +0100 > > Messaggio in formato MIME composto da più parti. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C19D3E.7F413E80 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Dear Wireless List, > i sent you month ago any email about hcf light library from LUCENT ( i = > use two ORINOCO PCMCIA card under Win98). Well, first i have write two = > driver with this library, driverTX and driverRX where first driver send = > packet and second driver receive and show it. I reach to initialize and = > enable MAC port 0 but the i can't estabish a link between two station. > For driverTX i have set following RID: > before hcf_enable( ) > -cnfPortType=3D3 (pseudo IBSS) > -cnfOwnSSID=3D'prova' > -cnfOwnChannel=3D10=20 > -and read MAC address fron cnfOwnMacAddress > > afet hcf_enable( ) > -Create IBSS=3D1 (station create IBSS with name prova!?, is correct? ) > > For driverRX i have set > before hcf_enable( ) > -cnfPortType=3D3 (pseudo IBSS) > -cnfDesideredSSID=3D'prova' > -and read MAC address fron cnfOwnMacAddress > > after hcf_enable( ) > -Create IBSS=3D0 (Not create IBSS) > > for Intersil firmware there are RID SCAN REQUEST (0xFC85) and JOIN = > (0xFCE2) but in HCF-light library > there aren't! > I look Comunication Tallies and i see that i don't trasmit nothing! > But i use hcf_put data ( i fill the trasmit frame with MAC HEDAR = > (address dst src and lenght field) and PAYOLAD. > Then i call hcf_send.=20 > In DriverRX call in polling mode hcf_service_nic( ) and control RxLen = > field in IFBP. > If then i call hcf_service_nic( ) and look EVSTATUS register, the last = > command code is 0x0B, the correct code for trasmit and the result filed = > is 0, like for correct execution. =20 > I don't understand what i need to do for trasmit frame, i think there = > was to initialize, enable port, set any RID and then with hcf_put_data = > and hcf_send trasmit the frame! Can you help me? Do you remember what to = > do to establish link and then exchang packet? Please send me any = > response as soon as you can, Thank you very much for all, > > NICOLA MORELLI > University of Brescia, Italy =20 > > =20 > > ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C19D3E.7F413E80 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > > > > >
>
Dear Wireless List,
>
i sent you month ago any email about = > hcf light=20 > library from LUCENT ( i use two ORINOCO PCMCIA card under Win98). Well, = > first i=20 > have write two driver with this library, driverTX and driverRX where = > first=20 > driver send packet and second driver receive and show it. I reach to = > initialize=20 > and enable MAC port 0 but the i can't estabish a link between two=20 > station.
>
For driverTX i have set following = > RID:
>
before hcf_enable( )
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-cnfPortType=3D3 (pseudo = > IBSS)
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-cnfOwnSSID=3D'prova'
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-cnfOwnChannel=3D10 
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-and read MAC address fron=20 > cnfOwnMacAddress
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afet hcf_enable( )
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-Create IBSS=3D1 (station create IBSS = > with name=20 > prova!?, is correct? )
>
 
>
For driverRX i have set
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before hcf_enable( )
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-cnfPortType=3D3 (pseudo = > IBSS)
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size=3D2>-cnfDesideredSSID=3D'prova'
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-and read MAC address fron=20 > cnfOwnMacAddress
>
 
>
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after hcf_enable( )
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-Create IBSS=3D0 (Not create = > IBSS)
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>
for Intersil firmware there are = > RID  SCAN=20 > REQUEST (0xFC85) and JOIN (0xFCE2) but in HCF-light = > library
>
there aren't!
>
I look Comunication Tallies and i = > see that=20 > i don't trasmit nothing!
>
But i use hcf_put data ( i = > fill the=20 > trasmit frame with MAC HEDAR (address dst src and lenght field)=20 > and PAYOLAD.
>
Then i call = > hcf_send. 
>
In DriverRX call in polling mode = > hcf_service_nic( )=20 > and control RxLen field in IFBP.
>
If then i call hcf_service_nic( ) = > and look=20 > EVSTATUS register, the last command code is 0x0B, the correct code for = > trasmit=20 > and the result filed is 0, like for correct execution.  > face=3DArial size=3D2> 
>
I don't understand what i need to do = > for trasmit=20 > frame, i think there was to initialize, enable port, set any RID and = > then with=20 > hcf_put_data and hcf_send trasmit the frame! Can you help me? = > Do you=20 > remember what to do to establish size=3D2> link and=20 > then exchang packet? Please send me any response as = > soon as=20 > you can, Thank you very much for all,
>
 
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NICOLA MORELLI
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University of Brescia, = > Italy  =20 >
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> > ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C19D3E.7F413E80-- > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:56:06 +1100 > From: David Gibson > To: wireless@lists.samba.org > Subject: Re: 2MBit wlan and linux drivers (UPDATE) > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 05:49:54PM +0100, Daniel Winkler wrote: > > Hello again, > > > > now I tried something new: I took the 2MBit-Card out of the access point and > > replaced it by an AirLancer with 11Mbit. Great, the L-2 access point did > > 11Mbit then. The effects: > > > > - My LINUX DRIVERS WORKED properly!!! No crashs, no panics. Great!! > :-))) > > Interesting. Has the card in the Linux machine changed? > > -- > David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a > david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and > | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken > http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:08:01 +1100 (EST) > From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Michael=20Wilson?= > Subject: Availability / Coverage in Ngunnawal and Nicholls > To: wireless@lists.samba.org > > I am new to the list, > > Can anybody provide me the current coverage of > Gungahlin and suburbs. > > Thanks > > > Michael > > http://my.yahoo.com.au - My Yahoo! > - It's My Yahoo! Get your own! > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 22:46:55 -0500 > From: Cindy Wong > To: wireless@lists.samba.org > Subject: Re: MELCO support? > > > >How did you attempt to set the essid? What error messages did you see? > > > > After doing more research on Google (and with the help of the fish for > documents in Japanese), I found out the problem is actually with the > PCI-PCMCIA bridge. All I had to do was to put the lines in > /etc/sysconfig/pcmcia: > > PCIC=i82365 > PCIC_OPTS="irq_mode=0" > > Someone ought to put this in the wireless HOWTO, because I've seen so > many people with the similar problem, who usually blame the wvlan_cs > driver and then turn away from linux all together. > > Cindy > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > To: wireless@lists.samba.org > Subject: wireless network > Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 15:00:20 +0600 (IST) > From: ratankti@sify.com > Cc: haobam@mail.com > > I am planning to setup a wireless network ai Imphal, India with a radial distance of about 1 kilometres. The initial members for the network will be about 30-40 in numbers. Kindly send the hardware requirements for the project which might be enlarged to about 100 members in future. > Thanks and regards. > Ratan > ------------------------------------------------- > This mail helped a tree grow. Know more at http://green.sify.com > > Take the shortest route to success! > Click here to know how http://education.sify.com > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 7 > From: Jean-Jacques Tchouto > Organization: Fraunhofer FOKUS > To: wireless@lists.samba.org > Subject: Fwd: TX error > Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:38:19 +0100 > > > --------------Boundary-00=_VV6ZTXT8CFZ3UP9TTAO8 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > > Subject: TX error > Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:26:04 +0100 > From: Jean-Jacques Tchouto > To: david@gibson.dropbear.id.au > > Hi, > I successfully install and run the orinoco-009a on my Linux maschine > (kernel 2.4.18-pre2), and I use the Lucent IEEE802.11 > WLAN cards(firmware 7.52). > Running a Streaming video application which uses about 1 Mbps, and > looking the output of /var/log/messages, ist allways a Transmit > error. > > Attached to this mail you will find a log file which details > the TX-error. > > I need some advices. > > Best Regards, > > Jean-Jacques > -- > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------= > ---- > >---> Dipl-Ing. 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2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from fabulous.u--3.com (fabulous.u--3.com [212.50.142.250]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA8E5080 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 07:42:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by fabulous.u--3.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 32D9B580036; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 17:39:18 +0200 (EET) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 17:39:18 +0200 From: Erno Kuusela To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: No sigal info with orinoco_cs in ad-hoc mode? Message-ID: <20020116173918.O810@fabulous.u--3.com> References: <20020115132238.C810@fabulous.u--3.com> <20020115224852.GB5801@zax> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020115224852.GB5801@zax>; from david@gibson.dropbear.id.au on Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 09:48:52AM +1100 Organization: 26-dimensional hypercube X-PGP-Key-URL: http://212.50.142.250/dsakey.asc - please use it! Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: hello, On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, David Gibson wrote: | The overall statistics are meaningless for an ad-hoc network, because | signal levels vary per host. To get the iwspy stats you'll need to | use the iwspy tool, and in any case the stats won't be updated until | you actually receive a packet from the host in question. thanks. i have it working now with 2 ipaqs seeing each other. i guess i had the base station address wrong last time when i tried to add it with iwspy. i wonder if there is any way find out the ip address that corresopnds to a given wlan hardware address? ps. in case anyone is wondering, the plan here is to let the ipaq be aware of their location based on signal quality metrics from several different (stationary) ad hoc nodes. -- erno From dgibson@samba.org Wed Jan 16 14:39:39 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: by lists.samba.org (Postfix, from userid 1113) id E629E5318; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 14:37:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:33:24 +1100 From: David Gibson To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: No sigal info with orinoco_cs in ad-hoc mode? Message-ID: <20020116223324.GG4088@zax> Mail-Followup-To: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <20020115132238.C810@fabulous.u--3.com> <20020115224852.GB5801@zax> <20020116173918.O810@fabulous.u--3.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020116173918.O810@fabulous.u--3.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 05:39:18PM +0200, Erno Kuusela wrote: > hello, > > On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, David Gibson wrote: > > | The overall statistics are meaningless for an ad-hoc network, because > | signal levels vary per host. To get the iwspy stats you'll need to > | use the iwspy tool, and in any case the stats won't be updated until > | you actually receive a packet from the host in question. > > thanks. i have it working now with 2 ipaqs seeing each other. i guess i > had the base station address wrong last time when i tried to add it > with iwspy. > > i wonder if there is any way find out the ip address that > corresopnds to a given wlan hardware address? If you've send any packets to the station recently, it should show up in the output or "arp -a". -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From sekure@gmx.co.uk Wed Jan 16 16:39:55 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from pasarel.neeraj.org (unknown [213.233.66.191]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D379240C4 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:39:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by pasarel.neeraj.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4C23430E23; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 02:33:52 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pasarel.neeraj.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AA830E1A; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 02:33:52 +0200 (EET) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 02:33:52 +0200 (EET) From: Rijdnal Groeber X-X-Sender: sekure@pasarel.neeraj.org To: Erno Kuusela Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: No sigal info with orinoco_cs in ad-hoc mode? In-Reply-To: <20020116173918.O810@fabulous.u--3.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Erno Kuusela wrote: > i wonder if there is any way find out the ip address that > corresopnds to a given wlan hardware address? RARP? -- sekure at gmx dot co dot uk CCJAM .include 'send pgp key' in the subject to get my pgp key "The photon somehow knows..." -- http://www.qubit.org/intros/comp/comp.html From erno@fabulous.u--3.com Wed Jan 16 23:13:23 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from fabulous.u--3.com (fabulous.u--3.com [212.50.142.250]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D1B04121 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 23:13:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by fabulous.u--3.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4875F580036; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:10:00 +0200 (EET) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:10:00 +0200 From: Erno Kuusela To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: No sigal info with orinoco_cs in ad-hoc mode? Message-ID: <20020117091000.T810@fabulous.u--3.com> References: <20020115132238.C810@fabulous.u--3.com> <20020115224852.GB5801@zax> <20020116173918.O810@fabulous.u--3.com> <20020116223324.GG4088@zax> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020116223324.GG4088@zax>; from david@gibson.dropbear.id.au on Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 09:33:24AM +1100 Organization: 26-dimensional hypercube X-PGP-Key-URL: http://212.50.142.250/dsakey.asc - please use it! Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: hello, On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, David Gibson wrote: | On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 05:39:18PM +0200, Erno Kuusela wrote: | > i wonder if there is any way find out the ip address that | > corresopnds to a given wlan hardware address? | | If you've send any packets to the station recently, it should show up | in the output or "arp -a". yeah, it's just that i don't know the ip address of one device ;) oh well, have to ask around. -- erno From erno@fabulous.u--3.com Wed Jan 16 23:41:50 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from fabulous.u--3.com (fabulous.u--3.com [212.50.142.250]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B191B48A7 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 23:41:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by fabulous.u--3.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A7A2E580036; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:38:23 +0200 (EET) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:38:23 +0200 From: Erno Kuusela To: Rijdnal Groeber Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: No sigal info with orinoco_cs in ad-hoc mode? Message-ID: <20020117093823.V810@fabulous.u--3.com> References: <20020116173918.O810@fabulous.u--3.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from sekure@gmx.co.uk on Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 02:33:52AM +0200 Organization: 26-dimensional hypercube X-PGP-Key-URL: http://212.50.142.250/dsakey.asc - please use it! Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: hello, On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Rijdnal Groeber wrote: | On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Erno Kuusela wrote: | | > i wonder if there is any way find out the ip address that | > corresopnds to a given wlan hardware address? | RARP? i'll try that, although i think rarp is usually only spoken by things that expect to support net-booting equipment? the reason i thought there might be a wlan-specific way is that a cow orkers macos x computer seemed to be able to tell the ip addresses and names of nearby base stations... -- erno From chitrak@indchem.com Fri Jan 18 04:31:13 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from smtp.indchem.com (unknown [203.197.146.133]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F1C418C for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 04:31:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: WLAN Protocol.............. 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Thread-Index: AcGgGv8cZrdkK4UZRN6y+50LF/eLFw== From: "Chitra Krishnamurthy" To: Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1A01A.FF0245A8 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_002_01C1A01A.FF0245A8" ------_=_NextPart_002_01C1A01A.FF0245A8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hai, We are involved in MAC Software Development... And we have the following considerations to choose the environment/platform for the development. 1. Is it necessary to have a OS(Linux Kernel)for MAC development? 2. If yes for the above question, whether IPC's(inter process communication) or threads are used ? 3. 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------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C1A071.6FE4D1A0-- From xchen@superpass.com Fri Jan 18 08:48:31 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts5.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.25]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02A45922 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:40:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from office ([65.93.108.24]) by tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20020118163658.FLTN1709.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@office>; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 11:36:58 -0500 Message-ID: <014b01c1a03e$994161e0$186c5d41@office> From: "SuperPass" To: "Len Falknau" , References: <004e01c1a01d$9f97b560$62f0740a@lenslapptop> Subject: Re: converting 2.4 mesh antennas Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 11:38:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0148_01C1A014.B006A4A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0148_01C1A014.B006A4A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here is another one: http://www.superpass.com/products.html Please check products and price, everything is on the site. Regards John ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Len Falknau=20 To: wireless@samba.org=20 Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 7:42 AM Subject: converting 2.4 mesh antennas=20 if you are interested in useing dishes for 2.4 ghz 802.11 check out this site http://clown.ecig.com.au/article.php?sid=3D6 len ------=_NextPart_000_0148_01C1A014.B006A4A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Here is another one:
 
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John
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------=_NextPart_000_0148_01C1A014.B006A4A0-- From rowan@sensation.net.au Fri Jan 18 09:36:00 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@samba.org Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (vn.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.246]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F18B593C for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 09:35:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA39034 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 04:32:13 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 04:32:13 +1100 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: wireless@samba.org Subject: Re: converting 2.4 mesh antennas Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, SuperPass wrote: > Here is another one: > > http://www.superpass.com/products.html > > Please check products and price, everything is on the site. Why is it that every time someone posts a homebrew "how to turn free/low cost antenna into X" solution, you pop up and plug your *commercial* products? Totally inappropriate IMHO. Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe - Melbourne, Australia www.camrecord.com www.camdiscover.com www.heyasl.com www.sensationbot.com From mwbogus@yahoo.com Fri Jan 18 17:08:28 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from smtp011.mail.yahoo.com (smtp011.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.31]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DB4245E3 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 17:08:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from adsl-83-192-181.asm.bellsouth.net (HELO highpower) (65.83.192.181) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jan 2002 01:04:59 -0000 From: To: Subject: Problem with Gold card Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 20:05:02 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello, I have been using the three gold cards with the wvlan_cs driver with no difficulties for quite some time now. But, I upgraded the firmware to 8.1 to take advantage of the avoidance of the weak initialization vector weakness in WEP. After that, my wireless network will not work after a period of time, sometimes hours, sometimes minutes. It seems like the keys are no longer in synch or something. The only way to get the network working again is to either reset the encryption key (sometimes doesn't work) or stop and restart the pcmcia card and then reset the wavelan parameters using iwconfig. Anyway, I was wondering if the new orinoco_cs driver is capable of working with this new hardware? Has anyone had any success or experiences with this new firmware and the current orinoco_cs driver contained in the latest kernel? Thanks for any help, Matthew Ward _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From kleptog@svana.org Fri Jan 18 17:36:57 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0467647DD for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 17:31:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16RkIq-0007m0-00; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 12:28:16 +1100 Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 12:28:16 +1100 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: mwbogus@yahoo.com Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Problem with Gold card Message-ID: <20020119122816.B28770@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mwbogus@yahoo.com on Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 08:05:02PM -0500 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 08:05:02PM -0500, mwbogus@yahoo.com wrote: > Hello, I have been using the three gold cards with the wvlan_cs driver with > no difficulties for quite some time now. But, I upgraded the firmware to 8.1 > to take advantage of the avoidance of the weak initialization vector > weakness in WEP. After that, my wireless network will not work after a > period of time, sometimes hours, sometimes minutes. Are these orinoco gold cards? I upgraded an orinoco solver to that firmware and had no problems at all. > It seems like the keys are no longer in synch or something. The only way to > get the network working again is to either reset the encryption key > (sometimes doesn't work) or stop and restart the pcmcia card and then reset > the wavelan parameters using iwconfig. Any messages in the syslog? > Anyway, I was wondering if the new orinoco_cs driver is capable of working > with this new hardware? Has anyone had any success or experiences with this > new firmware and the current orinoco_cs driver contained in the latest > kernel? New hardware? The orinoco gold has been out for ages and does seem to work really well. The only place I don't use it is on an old machine because the orinoco driver doesn't work on 2.2. The one in recent kernels is pretty up-to-date, but you can always grab the latest from the web. HTH, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Terrorists can only take my life. Only my government can take my freedom. From mwbogus@yahoo.com Fri Jan 18 17:38:41 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from smtp016.mail.yahoo.com (smtp016.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.113]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E2A2F45F4 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 17:38:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from adsl-83-192-181.asm.bellsouth.net (HELO highpower) (65.83.192.181) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jan 2002 01:35:11 -0000 From: To: "Martijn van Oosterhout" , Cc: Subject: RE: Problem with Gold card Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 20:35:12 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20020119122816.B28770@svana.org> Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Answers to your questions: > Are these orinoco gold cards? I upgraded an orinoco solver to > that firmwareand had no problems at all. Yes, all Orinoco gold cards. > Any messages in the syslog? Nope. Happily working away sending packets noone else understands. It is only the Linux machine by the way that can't communicate with the other two windows machines. > The only place I don't use it is on an old machine because the > orinoco driver doesn't work on 2.2. Sounds like the 2.4 kernel is the way to go. I will be attempting to upgrade, as I am on the 2.2 kernel right now... Thanks for the info! Matthew Full thread below: > -----Original Message----- > From: Martijn van Oosterhout [mailto:kleptog@svana.org] > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 8:28 PM > To: mwbogus@yahoo.com > Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org > Subject: Re: Problem with Gold card > > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 08:05:02PM -0500, mwbogus@yahoo.com wrote: > > Hello, I have been using the three gold cards with the wvlan_cs > driver with > > no difficulties for quite some time now. But, I upgraded the > firmware to 8.1 > > to take advantage of the avoidance of the weak initialization vector > > weakness in WEP. After that, my wireless network will not work after a > > period of time, sometimes hours, sometimes minutes. > > Are these orinoco gold cards? I upgraded an orinoco solver to > that firmware > and had no problems at all. > > > It seems like the keys are no longer in synch or something. The > only way to > > get the network working again is to either reset the encryption key > > (sometimes doesn't work) or stop and restart the pcmcia card > and then reset > > the wavelan parameters using iwconfig. > > Any messages in the syslog? > > > Anyway, I was wondering if the new orinoco_cs driver is capable > of working > > with this new hardware? Has anyone had any success or > experiences with this > > new firmware and the current orinoco_cs driver contained in the latest > > kernel? > > New hardware? The orinoco gold has been out for ages and does seem to work > really well. The only place I don't use it is on an old machine > because the > orinoco driver doesn't work on 2.2. > > The one in recent kernels is pretty up-to-date, but you can > always grab the > latest from the web. > > HTH, > -- > Martijn van Oosterhout > http://svana.org/kleptog/ > > Terrorists can only take my life. Only my government can take > my freedom. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Darryl@radio-active.net.au Fri Jan 18 19:13:22 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from reactor.radio-active.net.au (reactor.radio-active.net.au [203.42.174.62]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 277B04137 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 19:13:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 16035 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2002 14:09:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (192.168.4.64) by reactor.radio-active.net.au with SMTP; 19 Jan 2002 14:09:27 -0000 From: "Darryl Smith" To: Subject: Re: The 500m Rule Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 14:09:01 +1100 Message-ID: <000401c1a096$a8638ec0$4004a8c0@LAPTOP> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: From an email earlier this month.... From jamzb@staff.airnet.com.au > Remember if you aren't a telecommunications carrier you can't: > >* supply anyone with access to the Internet over a privately owned > line link, regardless of who owns each end of the link, unless it > is covered by a nominated carrier declaration, or indeed if the > private owner of the link is a carrier (see below); or > >* link two seperate houses together for any use whatsoever, Internet > access or not (see Section 44 3(c)(i) below).> > > >http://scaleplus.law.gov.au/html/pasteact/2/3021/0/PA000530.htm > >TELECOMMUNICATIONS ACT 1997 - SECT 42 Unless I have missed something in the applicability of the act, there is no problem. The TELECOMMUNICATIONS ACT related to physical connections. The RADIOCOMMUNICATIONS refers to RADIO links. The question becomes is the link that crosses the property boundry a CONNECTED MEDIUM or a TRANSMITTED MEDIUM. The act actually describes LINE line means a wire, cable, optical fibre, tube, conduit, waveguide or other physical medium used, or for use, as a continuous artificial guide for or in connection with carrying communications by means of guided electromagnetic energy. LINE LINK A line constitutes a line link If a line is connected to another line; and the other line constitutes, or forms part of, a line link; Radio Links do not need to comply with the Telecommunications Act in most cases... >I wasn't aware of that... so having a link between two friends which is >greater then 500m and passes through/across property boundaries other then >our own is illegal? thats a bummer Basically it is probably totally legal subject to the Radiocommunications Act Darryl P.s. I have a Degree in Engineering, not Law, so please purchase a copy of the acts for yourself and veryify all I have said --------- Darryl Smith, VK2TDS POBox 169 Ingleburn NSW 2565 Australia Mobile Number 0412 929 634 [+61 4 12 929 634 International] Darryl@radio-active.net.au | www.radio-active.net.au for domain names From mr_mobsoft@hotmail.com Sun Jan 20 01:11:04 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from hotmail.com (f117.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.117]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0274E410A for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 01:11:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 01:07:28 -0800 Received: from 203.134.7.26 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 09:07:27 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.134.7.26] Reply-To: smithy@mobsoft.net From: "Ben Smith" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Interesting Quick Thought Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 20:07:27 +1100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jan 2002 09:07:28.0751 (UTC) FILETIME=[E29F5FF0:01C1A191] Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive:


Hi Everyone,

I had a brief thought today.  Everyone's main concern with wireless networking is cost, It's great new technology and is actually reasonably cheap to setup in comparison to other typical communication networks.  Anyway, my thought was is it possible to use existing TV antenna's on peoples roofs for wireless networking, would it be possible with some tweaking to enable the antenna to be used to both TV and WLAN?  They run at 2 completely different frequencies but considering most TV antenna's pick up both UHF and VHF then I'm assuming it might not be a problem.  The other thing would be WLAN needs literally no interferace between the antenna and the WLAN card and good line of sight.  There are also other issues to consider such as If the TV and the WLAN is being used at the same time, would it be possible to creat some dual connector similar to an RF switch or something?

There are several things to think about and consider, most people would look at it and think it's not possible and that it's a waste of time, but surely if we could eliminate the cost of the user installing an all new antenna then the possibilities when it comes to expanding our wireless networks would be limitless!

I myself will be doing some research into the concept and hopefully come back with some interesting results.  If anyone else has some thoughts on this subject please tell me about them.

Best Regards,

Ben Smith.


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From kleptog@svana.org Sun Jan 20 02:03:13 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC5E4904 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 02:01:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16SEjM-0002DV-00; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 20:57:40 +1100 Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 20:57:40 +1100 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: smithy@mobsoft.net Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Interesting Quick Thought Message-ID: <20020120205740.B7453@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mr_mobsoft@hotmail.com on Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 08:07:27PM +1100 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 08:07:27PM +1100, Ben Smith wrote: Hmm, do you think you could not write email in HTML only mode? Or even better, not use HTML at all? -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Terrorists can only take my life. Only my government can take my freedom. From gregor@thumpa.com.au Sun Jan 20 02:09:21 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from bunker.frogspace.net (unknown [64.6.234.2]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFED9411A for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 02:09:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from [198.142.12.85] (helo=cougar) by bunker.frogspace.net with smtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 16SErB-0008HY-00 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 02:05:47 -0800 From: "Gregor Gniewosz" To: Subject: RE: Interesting Quick Thought Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 21:13:35 +1100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20020120205740.B7453@svana.org> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Picky picky picky -----Original Message----- From: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org [mailto:wireless-admin@lists.samba.org]On Behalf Of Martijn van Oosterhout Sent: Sunday, 20 January 2002 8:58 PM To: smithy@mobsoft.net Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Interesting Quick Thought On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 08:07:27PM +1100, Ben Smith wrote: Hmm, do you think you could not write email in HTML only mode? Or even better, not use HTML at all? -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Terrorists can only take my life. Only my government can take my freedom. From Darryl@radio-active.net.au Sun Jan 20 02:17:15 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from reactor.radio-active.net.au (reactor.radio-active.net.au [203.42.174.62]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A8F8411A for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 02:17:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 29737 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2002 21:13:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO LAPTOP) (192.168.4.64) by reactor.radio-active.net.au with SMTP; 20 Jan 2002 21:13:22 -0000 From: "Darryl Smith" To: Subject: RE: Interesting Quick Thought Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 21:12:44 +1100 Message-ID: <000201c1a19b$0057ee50$4004a8c0@LAPTOP> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: G'Day It is certainly possible for people to have antennas one one or many frequencies. The problem is making the antenna usable at many frequencies. A switch between frequencies of the antenna is called a filter, or diplexer. Invariably though the TV antenna needs to be pointed in the wrong direction. Even if you do have all antennas pointed to an access point at the source of the TV transmissions, things get worse since all users are attempting to use the same access point. Making a high gain antenna needed for 802.11 netwotking is also not easy to build into a TV antenna - but it is possible. Really though the main killer is the connection from the antenna to the computer. This is where the major capital cost is. You cannot use normal coax if the computer is where the WLAN box is. The best way is to put the WLAN up the antenna, meaning USB or Ethernet. Of these USB is the cheapest, can it should be possible to stick it up an antenna... 5m booster cables are available for USB... And you can use 5 of them together. Really the solution is not to use an infrastructure... But ad-hoc networking... I wrote a paper on this a few years back... Without infrastrcuture you create a mesh and run things that way... Of course when everyone starts using 802.11 it will become useless. That is a promise. Just look at FRS radios in the USA running on 900 MHz... Just try using one within a mile of Disneyland... You cant... The same will happen to 802.11. I have been into Spread Spectrum networking since 1994, so I generally know what I am talking about.... Darryl --------- Darryl Smith, VK2TDS POBox 169 Ingleburn NSW 2565 Australia Mobile Number 0412 929 634 [+61 4 12 929 634 International] Darryl@radio-active.net.au | www.radio-active.net.au for domain names -----Original Message----- From: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org [mailto:wireless-admin@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Ben Smith Sent: Sunday, 20 January 2002 8:07 PM To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Interesting Quick Thought Hi Everyone, I had a brief thought today. Everyone's main concern with wireless networking is cost, It's great new technology and is actually reasonably cheap to setup in comparison to other typical communication networks. Anyway, my thought was is it possible to use existing TV antenna's on peoples roofs for wireless networking, would it be possible with some tweaking to enable the antenna to be used to both TV and WLAN? They run at 2 completely different frequencies but considering most TV antenna's pick up both UHF and VHF then I'm assuming it might not be a problem. The other thing would be WLAN needs literally no interferace between the antenna and the WLAN card and good line of sight. There are also other issues to consider such as If the TV and the WLAN is being used at the same time, would it be possible to creat some dual connector similar to an RF switch or something? There are several things to think about and consider, most people would look at it and think it's not possible and that it's a waste of time, but surely if we could eliminate the cost of the user installing an all new antenna then the possibilities when it comes to expanding our wireless networks would be limitless! I myself will be doing some research into the concept and hopefully come back with some interesting results. If anyone else has some thoughts on this subject please tell me about them. Best Regards, From mjoconr@pineview.net Sun Jan 20 03:07:06 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from ppro.pineview.net (isdn.pineview.net [150.101.6.12]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C9564146 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 03:07:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from themaster (themaster.pineview.net [203.33.246.30]) by ppro.pineview.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with SMTP id VAA11097 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 21:33:39 +1030 X-Authentication-Warning: ppro.pineview.net: Host themaster.pineview.net [203.33.246.30] claimed to be themaster Message-ID: <002001c1a1a2$16581610$1ef621cb@themaster> From: "Mike O'Connor" To: References: Subject: Correct way of using the orinoco_cs driver Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 21:33:27 +1030 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all I have a zoomair 4100 which uses the prisim 2 chip set. I'm wondering what is the best way of install the current drivers from david's site ? I have a kernel compile (2.4.18-pre4) on a powerbook g3. Up to now I have had a been using a 2mb zoomair card using the wlan driver. I'm trying to use the new orinoco drive because I get the 'error -16 writing header to BAP' message.' I'm getting a message saying "orinoco_cs: Card Service release does not match!". I have look arround the net and found a lot of mention of this problem but no real explaintion on how to fix it. Also I'm getting an error about "cardmgr: {path to modules}: init_module: operation not permitted" A friends Lucent tech wavelan/IEEE gets the same errors. Using the wvlan_cs I can get the lucent card working. Any help would be good thanks From kleptog@svana.org Sun Jan 20 03:15:02 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1BFD4146 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 03:15:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16SFsZ-0002Gs-00; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 22:11:15 +1100 Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 22:11:15 +1100 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: Mike O'Connor Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Correct way of using the orinoco_cs driver Message-ID: <20020120221115.C7453@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout References: <002001c1a1a2$16581610$1ef621cb@themaster> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <002001c1a1a2$16581610$1ef621cb@themaster>; from mjoconr@pineview.net on Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 09:33:27PM +1030 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 09:33:27PM +1030, Mike O'Connor wrote: > I'm getting a message saying "orinoco_cs: Card Service release does not > match!". I have look arround the net and found a lot of mention of this > problem but no real explaintion on how to fix it. All it means is that the Card Services version in the kernel does not match either the version in the module or the version of cardmgr you are using. Are you sure you're compiling the orinoco driver against the right kernel tree? > Also I'm getting an error about "cardmgr: {path to modules}: init_module: > operation not permitted" That's the module load failing probably. > A friends Lucent tech wavelan/IEEE gets the same errors. > > Using the wvlan_cs I can get the lucent card working. Wierd, I've never had any difficulties. orinoco_cs in part of the 2.4.18 kernel you're using, so there is not even a need to go download anything. You can compile it as part of your normal kernel compile. make modules_install does it for me HTH, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Terrorists can only take my life. Only my government can take my freedom. From mike@pineview.net Sun Jan 20 04:04:37 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from ppro.pineview.net (isdn.pineview.net [150.101.6.12]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A20410B for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 04:04:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from www-data@localhost) by ppro.pineview.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id WAA11622; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 22:31:07 +1030 From: "Mike O'Connor" X-Authentication-Warning: ppro.pineview.net: www-data set sender to mike@pineview.net using -f To: Martijn van Oosterhout Subject: Re: Correct way of using the orinoco_cs driver Message-ID: <1011528067.3c4ab1830b907@mail.pineview.net> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 22:31:07 +1000 (CST) Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org References: <002001c1a1a2$16581610$1ef621cb@themaster> <20020120221115.C7453@svana.org> In-Reply-To: <20020120221115.C7453@svana.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 203.33.246.73 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi If I use the one with the kernel I get a message in the log about needing to upgrade orinoco because of a firmware bug in my zoomtel. This is why I\'m trying the newer source code. > Are you sure you\'re compiling the orinoco driver against the right > kernel > tree? I have made sure that the links in /usr/include point to the correct headers and pcmcia is building aginast the correct source. I\'m not useing the kernel pcmcia modules could this be the problem ? The one email message I found that made any sense was said that the code version problem was caused by modules compiling aganst the kernel pcmcia not the pcmcia source code, but it did not get any way of fixing this. Thanks Mike O\'Connor > > > Also I\'m getting an error about \"cardmgr: {path to modules}: > init_module: > > operation not permitted\" > > That\'s the module load failing probably. > > > A friends Lucent tech wavelan/IEEE gets the same errors. > > > > Using the wvlan_cs I can get the lucent card working. > > Wierd, I\'ve never had any difficulties. orinoco_cs in part of the 2.4.18 > kernel you\'re using, so there is not even a need to go download > anything. > You can compile it as part of your normal kernel compile. > > make modules_install does it for me > > HTH, > -- > Martijn van Oosterhout > http://svana.org/kleptog/ > > Terrorists can only take my life. Only my government can take my > freedom. > From kleptog@svana.org Sun Jan 20 04:29:51 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FEE34146 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 04:29:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16SH31-0002KZ-00; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 23:26:07 +1100 Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 23:26:07 +1100 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: Mike O'Connor Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Correct way of using the orinoco_cs driver Message-ID: <20020120232607.D7453@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout References: <002001c1a1a2$16581610$1ef621cb@themaster> <20020120221115.C7453@svana.org> <1011528067.3c4ab1830b907@mail.pineview.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <1011528067.3c4ab1830b907@mail.pineview.net>; from mike@pineview.net on Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 10:31:07PM +1000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 10:31:07PM +1000, Mike O'Connor wrote: > Hi > > If I use the one with the kernel I get a message in the log about needing to > upgrade orinoco because of a firmware bug in my zoomtel. > > This is why I\'m trying the newer source code. Ok, I think what I did was simply copy the downloaded files over the ones in the kernel tree and recompile, > > Are you sure you\'re compiling the orinoco driver against the right > > kernel > > tree? > > I have made sure that the links in /usr/include point to the correct headers and > pcmcia is building aginast the correct source. You modified the *links* in /usr/include. That's *evil*!!. What distribution is this? /usr/include should have no links to kernel source. It should contain the actual headers that glibc was compiled with, irrespective of what version you are running. > I\'m not useing the kernel pcmcia modules could this be the problem ? The one > email message I found that made any sense was said that the code version problem > was caused by modules compiling aganst the kernel pcmcia not the pcmcia source > code, but it did not get any way of fixing this. Well, the kernel includes pcmcia these days, does it not? But yes, if you have a version of pcmcia installed that does not match the one in the kernel, you may get some stange results. I'm using standard kernel pcmcia, default pcmcia debian package and the orinoco_cs included in the standard kernel. I do think join copying over a newer version is the best idea. HTH, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Terrorists can only take my life. Only my government can take my freedom. From mike@pineview.net Sun Jan 20 06:15:51 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from ppro.pineview.net (isdn.pineview.net [150.101.6.12]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F284177 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 06:15:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from www-data@localhost) by ppro.pineview.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id AAA12826; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 00:42:20 +1030 From: "Mike O'Connor" X-Authentication-Warning: ppro.pineview.net: www-data set sender to mike@pineview.net using -f To: Martijn van Oosterhout Subject: Re: Correct way of using the orinoco_cs driver Message-ID: <1011535940.3c4ad044e9bb3@mail.pineview.net> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 00:42:20 +1000 (CST) Cc: "Mike O'Connor" , wireless@lists.samba.org References: <002001c1a1a2$16581610$1ef621cb@themaster> <20020120221115.C7453@svana.org> <1011528067.3c4ab1830b907@mail.pineview.net> <20020120232607.D7453@svana.org> In-Reply-To: <20020120232607.D7453@svana.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 203.33.246.73 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi The point is that the kernel does not support all the devices that pcmcia-cs does. So I have allways use the pcmcia source code and not build the pcmcai stuff in the kernel. I linked the include/asm and include/linux because thats what supposed to happen. Must current Disto do not and this causes problem, at least thats what I have seen from my reading of the linux kernel mail list. Richard Sharp has a problem with redhat 7.2 because it did not do this linking. Instead it use a kernel-header package which is upgraded each time a rpm kernel is installed. The problem is that if you compile you own then the headers are wrong. Ever things you have said about the pcmcia version stuff is probably right, but thats what ever one else has said on other mailing archives, but there was never an answer to the problem put forward.. Cheers Mike Quoting Martijn van Oosterhout : > On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 10:31:07PM +1000, Mike O\'Connor wrote: > > Hi > > > > If I use the one with the kernel I get a message in the log about > needing to > > upgrade orinoco because of a firmware bug in my zoomtel. > > > > This is why I\\\'m trying the newer source code. > > Ok, I think what I did was simply copy the downloaded files over the > ones in > the kernel tree and recompile, > > > > Are you sure you\\\'re compiling the orinoco driver against the right > > > kernel > > > tree? > > > > I have made sure that the links in /usr/include point to the correct > headers and > > pcmcia is building aginast the correct source. > > You modified the *links* in /usr/include. That\'s *evil*!!. What > distribution > is this? /usr/include should have no links to kernel source. It should > contain the actual headers that glibc was compiled with, irrespective of > what version you are running. > > > I\\\'m not useing the kernel pcmcia modules could this be the problem ? > The one > > email message I found that made any sense was said that the code > version problem > > was caused by modules compiling aganst the kernel pcmcia not the > pcmcia source > > code, but it did not get any way of fixing this. > > Well, the kernel includes pcmcia these days, does it not? But yes, if > you > have a version of pcmcia installed that does not match the one in the > kernel, you may get some stange results. > > I\'m using standard kernel pcmcia, default pcmcia debian package and the > orinoco_cs included in the standard kernel. I do think join copying over > a > newer version is the best idea. > > HTH, > -- > Martijn van Oosterhout > http://svana.org/kleptog/ > > Terrorists can only take my life. Only my government can take my > freedom. > From mike@pineview.net Sun Jan 20 06:23:38 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from ppro.pineview.net (isdn.pineview.net [150.101.6.12]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A64C3473C for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 06:23:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from www-data@localhost) by ppro.pineview.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id AAA12927; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 00:50:05 +1030 From: "Mike O'Connor" X-Authentication-Warning: ppro.pineview.net: www-data set sender to mike@pineview.net using -f To: Martijn van Oosterhout Subject: Re: Correct way of using the orinoco_cs driver Message-ID: <1011536405.3c4ad215ca118@mail.pineview.net> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 00:50:05 +1000 (CST) Cc: "Mike O'Connor" , wireless@lists.samba.org References: <002001c1a1a2$16581610$1ef621cb@themaster> <20020120221115.C7453@svana.org> <1011528067.3c4ab1830b907@mail.pineview.net> <20020120232607.D7453@svana.org> In-Reply-To: <20020120232607.D7453@svana.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 203.33.246.73 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Ok, I did as you suggested and moved the code in to the kernel source tree. This has made the kernel version problem and the illigale insmod problem go away. So now my on loan Lucent card works, no problem. BUT The Zoomtel when trying to get the dhcp information put this messagein the logs Jan 20 23:43:26 airtime kernel: eth0: This firmware requires an ESSID in IBSS-Ad-Hoc mode. Jan 20 23:43:26 airtime kernel: eth0: Error -110 writing packet header to BAP Jan 20 23:43:34 airtime dhcpcd[9085]: terminating on signal 2 The dhcpcd termination is me hitting ctrl-c. I tried adding an ESSID by running \'iwconfig eth0 essid WLAN_AVS\' but nothing changes when I look athe iwconfig details. Cheers Mike O\'Connor Quoting Martijn van Oosterhout : > On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 10:31:07PM +1000, Mike O\'Connor wrote: > > Hi > > > > If I use the one with the kernel I get a message in the log about > needing to > > upgrade orinoco because of a firmware bug in my zoomtel. > > > > This is why I\\\'m trying the newer source code. > > Ok, I think what I did was simply copy the downloaded files over the > ones in > the kernel tree and recompile, > > > > Are you sure you\\\'re compiling the orinoco driver against the right > > > kernel > > > tree? > > > > I have made sure that the links in /usr/include point to the correct > headers and > > pcmcia is building aginast the correct source. > > You modified the *links* in /usr/include. That\'s *evil*!!. What > distribution > is this? /usr/include should have no links to kernel source. It should > contain the actual headers that glibc was compiled with, irrespective of > what version you are running. > > > I\\\'m not useing the kernel pcmcia modules could this be the problem ? > The one > > email message I found that made any sense was said that the code > version problem > > was caused by modules compiling aganst the kernel pcmcia not the > pcmcia source > > code, but it did not get any way of fixing this. > > Well, the kernel includes pcmcia these days, does it not? But yes, if > you > have a version of pcmcia installed that does not match the one in the > kernel, you may get some stange results. > > I\'m using standard kernel pcmcia, default pcmcia debian package and the > orinoco_cs included in the standard kernel. I do think join copying over > a > newer version is the best idea. > > HTH, > -- > Martijn van Oosterhout > http://svana.org/kleptog/ > > Terrorists can only take my life. Only my government can take my > freedom. > From jcollins@asgardsrealm.net Sun Jan 20 07:51:59 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from asgardsrealm.net (24-148-45-234.na.21stcentury.net [24.148.45.234]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D2F074128 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 07:51:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 12746 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2002 15:55:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.10.123?) (192.168.10.123) by 0 with SMTP; 20 Jan 2002 15:55:28 -0000 Subject: RE: Interesting Quick Thought From: "Jamin W. Collins" To: wireless@lists.samba.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.1 Date: 20 Jan 2002 09:45:25 -0600 Message-Id: <1011541526.1835.3.camel@jamin-mini> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, 2002-01-20 at 04:13, Gregor Gniewosz wrote: > Picky picky picky It's not being picky. Rather, it's common list courtesy. Do not post to any list using HTML. Jamin W. Collins -- "Life is the art of drawing without an eraser." - John Gardner From tlangdon@atctraining.com.au Sun Jan 20 14:11:45 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au (gw2.atctraining.com.au [210.8.174.5]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD7847A3 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 14:11:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 09:07:49 +1100 Message-ID: From: Tony Langdon To: "'smithy@mobsoft.net'" , wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: Interesting Quick Thought Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 09:07:48 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Everyone, I had a brief thought today. Everyone's main concern with wireless networking is cost, It's great new technology and is actually = reasonably cheap to setup in comparison to other typical communication networks. Anyway, my thought was is it possible to use existing TV antenna's on peoples roofs for wireless networking, would it be possible with some tweaking to enable the antenna to be used to both TV and WLAN? They = run at 2 completely different frequencies but considering most TV antenna's = pick up both UHF and VHF then I'm assuming it might not be a problem. The = other thing would be WLAN needs literally no interferace between the antenna = and the WLAN card and good line of sight. There are also other issues to consider such as If the TV and the WLAN is being used at the same time, would it be possible to creat some dual connector similar to an RF = switch or something? There are several things to think about and consider, most people would = look at it and think it's not possible and that it's a waste of time, but = surely if we could eliminate the cost of the user installing an all new = antenna then the possibilities when it comes to expanding our wireless networks would be limitless! -------------------- There is one hitch with this idea. TV antennas are designed to work in = the ranges 45-230 MHz (VHF) and 500-860 MHz (UHF). Wireless networking is = in the 2400-2463 MHz band, which is well outside the frequency range of a = TV antenna. This means that: 1. The TV antenna will be inefficient at WLAN frequencies 2. The TV antenna will have a poor radiation pattern (probably = resemble that of the average bit of wet string :) ). Also, the feedline used for TV will be rather lossy at 2.4 GHz. P.S. Sorry for the awful looking quoting, but Outlook is brain dead = when handling HTML messages (please use plain text - I've converted this = back). --- Outgoing mail has been scanned for viruses Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.313 / Virus Database: 174 - Release Date: 02-Jan-02 =20 This correspondence is for the named person=92s use only. It may = contain confidential or legally privileged information or both. No = confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive = this correspondence in error, please immediately delete it from your system = and notify the sender. You must not disclose, copy or rely on any part of = this correspondence if you are not the intended recipient. Any opinions expressed in this message are those of the individual = sender. From cisbjc@reason.levels.unisa.edu.au Sun Jan 20 14:25:34 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from reason.levels.unisa.edu.au (reason.levels.unisa.edu.au [130.220.33.11]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1F6422C for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 14:25:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from reason.levels.unisa.edu.au (cis202068.levels.unisa.edu.au [130.220.37.202]) by reason.levels.unisa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA22395 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 08:51:54 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <3C4B506B.F04E1AC2@reason.levels.unisa.edu.au> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 09:49:07 +1030 From: Benjamin Close X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.7-10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: [Fwd: Re: Documents for Wireless LAN](FreeBSD) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi All, Found this email filter through the freebsd-mobile list. It could be of interest to anyone wanting to setup wireless using freebsd. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Documents for Wireless LAN Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 04:10:08 -0800 From: Matt Peterson To: Alex Kwan CC: freebsd-mobile References: <000f01c19fcf$0b6687c0$556ffea9@rosemary> How to build an IBSS AP in FreeBSD or Linux FreeBSD and 802.11b (needs finishing, I'm slacking) -- Matt Peterson Bay Area Wireless Users Group matt at bawug dot org http://www.bawug.org/ From kleptog@svana.org Sun Jan 20 14:41:26 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 095424CB0 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 14:41:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16SQav-0002y2-00; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 09:37:45 +1100 Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 09:37:45 +1100 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: Mike O'Connor Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Correct way of using the orinoco_cs driver Message-ID: <20020121093745.A11376@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout References: <002001c1a1a2$16581610$1ef621cb@themaster> <20020120221115.C7453@svana.org> <1011528067.3c4ab1830b907@mail.pineview.net> <20020120232607.D7453@svana.org> <1011536405.3c4ad215ca118@mail.pineview.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <1011536405.3c4ad215ca118@mail.pineview.net>; from mike@pineview.net on Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 12:50:05AM +1000 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 12:50:05AM +1000, Mike O'Connor wrote: > Hi > > Ok, I did as you suggested and moved the code in to the kernel source tree. This > has made the kernel version problem and the illigale insmod problem go away. > > So now my on loan Lucent card works, no problem. Cool! > BUT > The Zoomtel when trying to get the dhcp information put this messagein the logs > > Jan 20 23:43:26 airtime kernel: eth0: This firmware requires an ESSID in > IBSS-Ad-Hoc mode. > Jan 20 23:43:26 airtime kernel: eth0: Error -110 writing packet header to BAP > Jan 20 23:43:34 airtime dhcpcd[9085]: terminating on signal 2 > > The dhcpcd termination is me hitting ctrl-c. Ok, so you need an ESSID if you're going to use ad-hoc mode. That right. > I tried adding an ESSID by running \'iwconfig eth0 essid WLAN_AVS\' but nothing > changes when I look athe iwconfig details. Quick point, if you change the ESSID while the interface is down, it *doesn't* change it. The ESSID has to be brought up for the change to occur and even then you may need to issue the command while the interface is up. Since DHCP usually leaves the interface in a down state if it didn't work, my guess is that this is your problem. HTH, -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Terrorists can only take my life. Only my government can take my freedom. From penso@linuxfr.org Sun Jan 20 15:08:17 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from zobe.linuxfr.org (zobe.linuxfr.org [213.193.17.3]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65854D32 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:03:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by zobe.linuxfr.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id 5BA6B15A5F; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 00:00:34 +0100 (CET) Received: by houston.linuxfr.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 34CE614EF; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 23:54:44 +0100 (CET) From: Fabien Penso To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Interesting Quick Thought References: <1011541526.1835.3.camel@jamin-mini> Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-PGP-Fingerprint: E394 1C70 C7F9 B740 CD2E FAC2 18CD 25A5 22F3 8AF3 Organization: LinuxFr - http://linuxfr.org X-Face: &(.[0qo-5}TXSwe [~Je@%;XWpck*+p#5Qc(>:.x}I$&,g9$dKJZA?n"-{$h\{**<0]C"geE3sz["SDW&!j~oBb4g1!Yk& Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 23:54:44 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1011541526.1835.3.camel@jamin-mini> ("Jamin W. Collins"'s message of "20 Jan 2002 09:45:25 -0600") Message-ID: Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090005 (Oort Gnus v0.05) Emacs/21.1 (i386-debian-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: >> Picky picky picky > It's not being picky. Rather, it's common list courtesy. Do not post > to any list using HTML. Neither on private email, it will make everyone be happier. -- Fabien Penso | LinuxFr a toujours besoin de : http://perso.LinuxFR.org/penso/ | http://linuxfr.org/dons/ From pmullins@bigpond.net.au Sun Jan 20 15:36:05 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mta05bw.bigpond.com (mta05bw.bigpond.com [139.134.6.95]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D864D2D for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:36:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from bigpond.net.au ([144.135.24.81]) by mta05bw.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GQ9GDX00.JOM for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 09:39:33 +1000 Received: from CPE-144-136-164-97.sa.bigpond.net.au ([144.136.164.97]) by bwmam05.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V3.0h 44/4540086); 21 Jan 2002 09:32:25 Message-ID: <3C4BFC62.DA1D86CE@bigpond.net.au> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 22:04:01 +1030 From: Paul Mullins Reply-To: pmullins@bigpond.net.au X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless Subject: samsung SWL-2100 PCI & linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi there all, just a quick question has any body used the samsung swl-2100p card under linux or windows I am looking to use this as a remote link. From falkle@sunsbeacshs.qld.edu.au Sun Jan 20 16:56:43 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from gateway.telstra-ccc.qld.schools.net.au (unknown [203.37.199.159]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ABF96421C for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 16:56:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 30368 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2002 00:53:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lenslapptop) (203.37.199.156) by gateway.telstra-ccc.qld.schools.net.au with SMTP; 21 Jan 2002 00:53:04 -0000 Message-ID: <007a01c1a217$6667a2e0$62f0740a@qed.qld.gov.au> From: "Len Falknau" To: Cc: References: Subject: Re: Interesting Quick Thought Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 11:01:35 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0072_01C1A26A.FDD65600" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C1A26A.FDD65600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable leaving aside the technical aspects the concept is great you could use a usb wlan device and mount it in the waterproof enclosure = where the amplifier is (wonder how mush hash it would introduce into the = tv picture) then a pig tail out with a small dipole with reflector = mounted on the end of the tv antenna=20 cheap and easy with some braising rod len ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ben Smith=20 To: wireless@lists.samba.org=20 Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 7:07 PM Subject: Interesting Quick Thought Hi Everyone, I had a brief thought today. Everyone's main concern with wireless = networking is cost, It's great new technology and is actually reasonably = cheap to setup in comparison to other typical communication networks. = Anyway, my thought was is it possible to use existing TV antenna's on = peoples roofs for wireless networking, would it be possible with some = tweaking to enable the antenna to be used to both TV and WLAN? They run = at 2 completely different frequencies but considering most TV antenna's = pick up both UHF and VHF then I'm assuming it might not be a problem. = The other thing would be WLAN needs literally no interferace between the = antenna and the WLAN card and good line of sight. There are also other = issues to consider such as If the TV and the WLAN is being used at the = same time, would it be possible to creat some dual connector similar to = an RF switch or something? There are several things to think about and consider, most people = would look at it and think it's not possible and that it's a waste of = time, but surely if we could eliminate the cost of the user installing = an all new antenna then the possibilities when it comes to expanding our = wireless networks would be limitless! I myself will be doing some research into the concept and hopefully = come back with some interesting results. If anyone else has some = thoughts on this subject please tell me about them. Best Regards, Ben Smith. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here ------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C1A26A.FDD65600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
leaving aside the technical = aspects the=20 concept is great
you could use a usb wlan = device and mount=20 it in the waterproof enclosure where the amplifier is (wonder how mush = hash it=20 would introduce into the tv picture) then a pig tail out with a small = dipole=20 with reflector mounted on the end of the tv antenna
 
cheap and easy with some = braising=20 rod
len
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ben=20 Smith
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 = 7:07=20 PM
Subject: Interesting Quick = Thought


Hi Everyone,

I had a brief thought today.  Everyone's main concern with = wireless=20 networking is cost, It's great new technology and is actually = reasonably=20 cheap to setup in comparison to other typical communication = networks. =20 Anyway, my thought was is it possible to use existing TV antenna's on = peoples=20 roofs for wireless networking, would it be possible with some tweaking = to=20 enable the antenna to be used to both TV and WLAN?  They run at 2 = completely different frequencies but considering most TV antenna's = pick up=20 both UHF and VHF then I'm assuming it might not be a problem.  = The other=20 thing would be WLAN needs literally no interferace between the antenna = and the=20 WLAN card and good line of sight.  There are also other = issues to=20 consider such as If the TV and the WLAN is being used at the same = time, would=20 it be possible to creat some dual connector similar to an RF switch or = something?

There are several things to think about and consider, most people = would=20 look at it and think it's not possible and that it's a waste of time, = but=20 surely if we could eliminate the cost of the user installing an all = new=20 antenna then the possibilities when it comes to expanding our wireless = networks would be limitless!

I myself will be doing some = research into=20 the concept and hopefully come back with some interesting = results.  If=20 anyone else has some thoughts on this subject please tell me about = them.

Best Regards,

Ben Smith.


Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click=20 Here
------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C1A26A.FDD65600-- From ant@sa.pracom.com.au Sun Jan 20 17:15:46 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from foghorn.steadycom.com.au (foghorn.steadycom.com.au [203.38.128.193]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D8B3421C for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 17:15:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ant@localhost) by foghorn.steadycom.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA23307; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 11:41:57 +1030 Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 11:41:57 +1030 (CST) From: Anthony Symons X-Sender: ant@foghorn.steadycom.com.au To: Len Falknau Cc: smithy@mobsoft.net, wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Interesting Quick Thought In-Reply-To: <007a01c1a217$6667a2e0$62f0740a@qed.qld.gov.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: What about the co-ax? TV is 75 Ohm, and Lan (and most radio apps) are 50ohm. Also TV co-ax is usually very low grade. As for the RF switch, Ive seen people use a shielded relay (about $55) to switch so that when they transmit on one radio it switches the aerial to the transmit section, and then when they want to receive it would swap back to the receiving unit. But, it probably a) wouldnt be fast enough, and b) would drop out the TV on TX. Also, recieving and transmitting are a different kettle of fish. For transmitting you need a multiple of the wavelength. Preferable is exactly one wave length, but if size is/isnt a contraint you can half it, and probably double it, im not sure. 2.4ghz is pretty high frequency which gives it a small wave length. I have seen someone hook up a low frequency cordless phone to their tv aerial on a farm, get an SWR meter (tells you how much of your signal is reflecting off the aerial and coming back at your equiptment, which is bad) and then they trimmed the ends of their tv aerial untill it had a good SWR. Apparently it worked pretty well. But to take this approach with 2.4gz would require a very expensive SWR meter, as prices go up with frequency. Finally, Im not a ham, just a hobbyisit, and most of this comes from my cb days, so if any ham knows better please correct me. Ant On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Len Falknau wrote: > leaving aside the technical aspects the concept is great > you could use a usb wlan device and mount it in the waterproof enclosure where the amplifier is (wonder how mush hash it would introduce into the tv picture) then a pig tail out with a small dipole with reflector mounted on the end of the tv antenna > > cheap and easy with some braising rod > len > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ben Smith > To: wireless@lists.samba.org > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 7:07 PM > Subject: Interesting Quick Thought > > > > Hi Everyone, > > I had a brief thought today. Everyone's main concern with wireless networking is cost, It's great new technology and is actually reasonably cheap to setup in comparison to other typical communication networks. Anyway, my thought was is it possible to use existing TV antenna's on peoples roofs for wireless networking, would it be possible with some tweaking to enable the antenna to be used to both TV and WLAN? They run at 2 completely different frequencies but considering most TV antenna's pick up both UHF and VHF then I'm assuming it might not be a problem. The other thing would be WLAN needs literally no interferace between the antenna and the WLAN card and good line of sight. There are also other issues to consider such as If the TV and the WLAN is being used at the same time, would it be possible to creat some dual connector similar to an RF switch or something? > > There are several things to think about and consider, most people would look at it and think it's not possible and that it's a waste of time, but surely if we could eliminate the cost of the user installing an all new antenna then the possibilities when it comes to expanding our wireless networks would be limitless! > > I myself will be doing some research into the concept and hopefully come back with some interesting results. If anyone else has some thoughts on this subject please tell me about them. > > Best Regards, > > Ben Smith. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here > > From falkle@sunsbeacshs.qld.edu.au Sun Jan 20 17:31:47 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from gateway.telstra-ccc.qld.schools.net.au (unknown [203.37.199.159]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B7DBE4D5F for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 17:30:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 6748 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2002 01:27:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lenslapptop) (203.37.199.156) by gateway.telstra-ccc.qld.schools.net.au with SMTP; 21 Jan 2002 01:27:19 -0000 Message-ID: <00d201c1a21c$2f1b8040$62f0740a@qed.qld.gov.au> From: "Len Falknau" To: "Anthony Symons" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Interesting Quick Thought Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 11:33:19 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: i probably didn't make my comment on the pigtail from the usb wlan device to the dipole mounted on thetv antenna boom should be of foam filled 50 ohm cellflex or equivilent coax len ----- Original Message ----- From: Anthony Symons To: Len Falknau Cc: ; Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:11 AM Subject: Re: Interesting Quick Thought > What about the co-ax? TV is 75 Ohm, and Lan (and most radio apps) are > 50ohm. Also TV co-ax is usually very low grade. As for the RF switch, Ive > seen people use a shielded relay (about $55) to switch so that when they > transmit on one radio it switches the aerial to the transmit section, and > then when they want to receive it would swap back to the receiving unit. > But, it probably a) wouldnt be fast enough, and b) would drop out the TV > on TX. > > Also, recieving and transmitting are a different kettle of fish. For > transmitting you need a multiple of the wavelength. Preferable is exactly > one wave length, but if size is/isnt a contraint you can half it, and > probably double it, im not sure. 2.4ghz is pretty high frequency which > gives it a small wave length. I have seen someone hook up a low frequency > cordless phone to their tv aerial on a farm, get an SWR meter (tells you > how much of your signal is reflecting off the aerial and coming back at > your equiptment, which is bad) and then they trimmed the ends of their tv > aerial untill it had a good SWR. Apparently it worked pretty well. > But to take this approach with 2.4gz would require a very expensive SWR > meter, as prices go up with frequency. > > Finally, Im not a ham, just a hobbyisit, and most of this comes from my cb > days, so if any ham knows better please correct me. > > Ant > > On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Len Falknau wrote: > > > leaving aside the technical aspects the concept is great > > you could use a usb wlan device and mount it in the waterproof enclosure where the amplifier is (wonder how mush hash it would introduce into the tv picture) then a pig tail out with a small dipole with reflector mounted on the end of the tv antenna > > > > cheap and easy with some braising rod > > len > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ben Smith > > To: wireless@lists.samba.org > > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 7:07 PM > > Subject: Interesting Quick Thought > > > > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I had a brief thought today. Everyone's main concern with wireless networking is cost, It's great new technology and is actually reasonably cheap to setup in comparison to other typical communication networks. Anyway, my thought was is it possible to use existing TV antenna's on peoples roofs for wireless networking, would it be possible with some tweaking to enable the antenna to be used to both TV and WLAN? They run at 2 completely different frequencies but considering most TV antenna's pick up both UHF and VHF then I'm assuming it might not be a problem. The other thing would be WLAN needs literally no interferace between the antenna and the WLAN card and good line of sight. There are also other issues to consider such as If the TV and the WLAN is being used at the same time, would it be possible to creat some dual connector similar to an RF switch or something? > > > > There are several things to think about and consider, most people would look at it and think it's not possible and that it's a waste of time, but surely if we could eliminate the cost of the user installing an all new antenna then the possibilities when it comes to expanding our wireless networks would be limitless! > > > > I myself will be doing some research into the concept and hopefully come back with some interesting results. If anyone else has some thoughts on this subject please tell me about them. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Ben Smith. > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here > > > > > > > > From tlangdon@atctraining.com.au Sun Jan 20 17:47:51 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au (gw2.atctraining.com.au [210.8.174.5]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B2B6421C for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 17:47:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 12:44:14 +1100 Message-ID: From: Tony Langdon To: 'Anthony Symons' , Len Falknau Cc: smithy@mobsoft.net, wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: Interesting Quick Thought Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 12:44:13 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > seen people use a shielded relay (about $55) to switch so=20 > that when they > transmit on one radio it switches the aerial to the transmit=20 > section, and You would have to use a diplexer to route the 2.4 GHz to the WLAN card = and the lower frequencies to the TV. This would probably involve a couple = of dB loss at 2.4 GHz (unless you get some _really_ good filters and = connectors). > Also, recieving and transmitting are a different kettle of fish. For > transmitting you need a multiple of the wavelength.=20 > Preferable is exactly > one wave length, but if size is/isnt a contraint you can half it, and This is an old CB wives tale. Coax length is generally unimportant = (notable exceptions are HF tuned feeder antenna systems and transmission line matching sections (the latter use precisely cut lengths of feedline to achieve impedance transformations). 2 points on this matter that apply to most radio systems (except those mentioned above). Firstly, a 1/2 wavelength of coax is an "impedance repeater" meaning the impedance at the load appears also at every 1/2 wavelength back along the coax. This doesn't generally aid matching in = most normal circumstances. If your VSWR (which is an indicator of how well the system is matched) changes with length of coax, then you have a problem with either your antenna system (causing stray currents on the outside of the coax) or = your SWR meter. Personally, with all the mismatches in the system, I think one would be better off putting a modified Galaxy antenna or similar up the mast. = Better performance and lots less hassle. As for cost, the really expensive = but is the network card itself in any case. --- Outgoing mail has been scanned for viruses Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.313 / Virus Database: 174 - Release Date: 02-Jan-02 =20 This correspondence is for the named person=92s use only. It may = contain confidential or legally privileged information or both. No = confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive = this correspondence in error, please immediately delete it from your system = and notify the sender. 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From jdalton@bigfoot.com.au Sun Jan 20 17:54:53 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from entoo.connect.com.au (entoo.connect.com.au [192.189.54.8]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C25F439A for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 17:54:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from modem (ppp39.adsl88.pacific.net.au [202.7.88.39]) by entoo.connect.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE58E3617 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 12:46:08 +1100 (EST) From: jdalton@bigfoot.com.au To: wireless@lists.samba.org Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 12:45:08 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Interesting Quick Thought Reply-To: john.dalton@bigfoot.com Message-ID: <3C4C0D54.4992.13773CB8@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Interesting idea From jdalton@bigfoot.com.au Sun Jan 20 18:02:23 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from entoo.connect.com.au (entoo.connect.com.au [192.189.54.8]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E78439A for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:02:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from modem (ppp39.adsl88.pacific.net.au [202.7.88.39]) by entoo.connect.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94486DE483 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 12:53:38 +1100 (EST) From: jdalton@bigfoot.com.au To: wireless@lists.samba.org Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 12:52:38 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Interesting Quick Thought Reply-To: john.dalton@bigfoot.com Message-ID: <3C4C0F16.2870.137E1952@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Sorry about the bogus message I sent to the list a few minutes ago. I'm gunna blame the html formatting in the original message causing me to lose the content. Now for what I really meant to say... It's an interesting idea, worthy of further investigation. My gut feeling is that it will be more efficient to use two antennae. It is difficult to design an antenna which is efficient over three octaves. The design effort and expense of construction will probably be greater than two specialist antennae. After all, how much does a pringles can cost (free chips included)? Regards John From falkle@sunsbeacshs.qld.edu.au Sun Jan 20 18:14:04 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from gateway.telstra-ccc.qld.schools.net.au (unknown [203.37.199.159]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 576B2439A for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:14:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 14210 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2002 02:10:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lenslapptop) (203.37.199.156) by gateway.telstra-ccc.qld.schools.net.au with SMTP; 21 Jan 2002 02:10:26 -0000 Message-ID: <00ff01c1a222$3555fca0$62f0740a@qed.qld.gov.au> From: "Len Falknau" To: "Tony Langdon" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Interesting Quick Thought Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 12:20:34 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Personally, with all the mismatches in the system, I think one would be better off putting a modified Galaxy antenna or similar up the mast. Better performance and lots less hassle. As for cost, the really expensive but is the network card itself in any case. yep i agree i wrote an atricle on modifying these antenna's and posed it the other day http://clown.ecig.com.au/article.php?sid=6 this is based on useing a pay tv antenna len vk4alf From dwayne@pobox.com Mon Jan 21 01:45:57 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from smtp02.iprimus.net.au (smtp02.iprimus.net.au [203.134.65.99]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B3C34D7F for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 01:36:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox.com ([210.50.82.43]) by smtp02.iprimus.net.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4617); Mon, 21 Jan 2002 20:32:59 +1100 Message-ID: <3C4BDFEA.862CC299@pobox.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 20:31:22 +1100 From: dwayne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Interesting Quick Thought References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jan 2002 09:32:59.0813 (UTC) FILETIME=[9D9EA550:01C1A25E] Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Gregor Gniewosz wrote: > > Picky picky picky try reading a HTML-only message on a text terminal, bucko. Dwayne From teodarren@yahoo.com Mon Jan 21 02:27:13 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from smtp012.mail.yahoo.com (smtp012.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.32]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B9824453 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 02:27:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mcns204.docsis16.singa.pore.net (HELO bummer) (202.156.16.204) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jan 2002 10:23:34 -0000 From: "darren" To: "'Samba/Wavelan mailing list'" Subject: WEP safe with Cisco APs? Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 18:27:09 +0800 Message-ID: <001301c1a266$2f95b9b0$0101a8c0@bummer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <20020101032219.GA1708@samosa.chappati.org> Importance: Normal Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all, I read that the WEP and its IVs generated by a Cisco setup is safe from Airsnort and WEPCrack. Are there any utilities currently that can compromise the Cisco APs? Otherwise, are they safe to use? Darren _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From holger@koepke.net Mon Jan 21 02:35:13 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from knecht.koepke.net (hkcipe.koepke.net [195.21.214.33]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF4E415F for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 02:35:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from einstein.mms.de (einstein.mms.de [195.21.212.42]) by knecht.koepke.net (8.10.2/8.10.2/SuSE Linux 8.10.0-0.3 HKHH) with SMTP id g0LBeqT26641 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 12:40:52 +0100 From: Holger Koepke To: "'Samba/Wavelan mailing list'" Subject: Re: WEP safe with Cisco APs? Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 11:31:30 +0100 Message-ID: <0brn4u4cv47tgu513mcdfpq56jskcddpf0@4ax.com> References: <20020101032219.GA1708@samosa.chappati.org> <001301c1a266$2f95b9b0$0101a8c0@bummer> In-Reply-To: <001301c1a266$2f95b9b0$0101a8c0@bummer> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 18:27:09 +0800, "darren" wrote: >Hi all, > >I read that the WEP and its IVs generated by a Cisco setup is safe from >Airsnort and WEPCrack. As far as I know, every manufacturer has a new and 802.11(a) uncompatible version of WEP now, which is "safe" against the old tools. >Are there any utilities currently that can compromise the Cisco APs? > >Otherwise, are they safe to use? If it is safe NOW, you can't say, that it "is safe". If you want to have a secure communication, you ALLWAYS should use VPN - not only on wireless-links. jm2c, Holger --=20 Nicht durch Zorn, sondern durch Lachen t=F6tet man. (Nietzsche, dt. = Phil., 1844-1900) From mike@pineview.net Mon Jan 21 04:16:03 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from ppro.pineview.net (isdn.pineview.net [150.101.6.12]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D7C4163 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 04:16:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from www-data@localhost) by ppro.pineview.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id WAA27070 for wireless@lists.samba.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 22:42:36 +1030 From: "Mike O'Connor" X-Authentication-Warning: ppro.pineview.net: www-data set sender to mike@pineview.net using -f To: Samba Wireless list Subject: Zoomtel 4100 and the orinoco_cs Message-ID: <1011615156.3c4c05b4b8e6d@mail.pineview.net> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 22:42:36 +1000 (CST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 203.33.246.70 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi All Thanks for all the help. After doing a \'ifconfig eth0 up\', I can set the ESSID. If I then run dhcp query no data seems to be transmited. Even thought all the iwconfig settings detils seem to be ok. So any extra help would be great. Is there any extra information I need to give ? The card Revision No.7C5. Thanks Mike From blymn@baesystems.com.au Mon Jan 21 13:54:56 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from sbuxscan.baea.com.au (unknown [202.20.20.25]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9DD84133 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 13:54:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from bunya.awadi (bunya.baea.com.au.207.150.in-addr.arpa [150.207.1.63] (may be forged)) by sbuxscan.baea.com.au (8.12.1/8.12.1) with SMTP id g0LLv3nG011431; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 08:27:04 +1030 (CST) Received: from mallee.awadi by bunya.awadi (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA26151; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 08:20:31 +1030 Received: by mallee.awadi (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA24311; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 08:20:30 +1030 From: blymn@baesystems.com.au (Brett Lymn) Message-Id: <200201212150.IAA24311@mallee.awadi> Subject: Re: Interesting Quick Thought To: dwayne@pobox.com (dwayne) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 08:20:30 +1030 (CST) Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org In-Reply-To: <3C4BDFEA.862CC299@pobox.com> from "dwayne" at Jan 21, 2002 08:31:22 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: According to dwayne: > >try reading a HTML-only message on a text terminal, bucko. > Does anyone? If I see a html mess I normally just delete the message unread. If I feel particularly annoyed I send the message back with surrounding 
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tags asking if they can read this crap. -- =============================================================================== Brett Lymn, Computer Systems Administrator, BAE SYSTEMS =============================================================================== From Joe.Maher@actewagl.com.au Wed Jan 16 14:36:05 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from snmswp01.actew.oz.au (unknown [202.14.247.4]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFCD9426F for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 14:29:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail1.actew.oz.au (unverified) by snmswp01.actew.oz.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.5) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:24:54 +1100 Received: by mail1.actew.oz.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:24:52 +1100 Message-ID: <1F38C688BB14D4118B8A00D0B73E48870107EF7A@mail1.actew.oz.au> From: "Maher, Joe" To: "'laurieawilcox@yahoo.com.au'" , "'mdeci@hotmail.com'" , "'alexbgood@att.net'" , "'techman@dingoblue.net.au'" , "'wireless@lists.samba.org'" , "'darren33@dingoblue.net.au'" , "'dgbeveridge@hotmail.com'" , "'escort_freak_au@yahoo.com'" , "'klee15@bigpond.net.au'" , "'cartier@optusnet.com.au'" , "'info@are.com.au'" , "'jepson@funnelwebinternet.com.au'" , "'jsa@powerup.com.au'" , "'kgloster@lightningpl.net.au'" , "'deathmetal@dingoblue.net.au'" , "'mark_eee@hotmail.com'" , "'mpe@air.net.au'" , "'pedroenglish@hotmail.com'" , "'rhall@pcug.org.au'" , "'robbie.vidler@anu.edu.au'" , "'rudolf.ladyzhenskii@adcomtech.net'" , "'timbre@bigpond.net.au'" Subject: I may have sent you a virus! Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:24:50 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01C19EDC.9D518566" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C19EDC.9D518566 Content-Type: text/plain I'm sorry to tell you all but it is possible that I may have sent you a virus last night about 10:30 pm. The virus is Badtrans-B. For the people that use Microsoft Outlook Express 5 the virus exploits a fault within the program. This fault will run the virus without you even opening the email. The Virus then sends the virus to any email address on your computer it can find. It is also possible that a record of your keystrokes have been sent to a email address revealing passwords that you have used since the computer was infected with the virus. For virus scanning software visit www.sophos.com, or any other site you prefer. The best thing to do for you when you receive this email is to disconnect you computer for the Internet so no more emails can be sent if you are infected. This will give you a chance to clean up you computer with up to date virus scanning software and the instructions I have sent you. I have included 3 word docs that explain the virus and the fault in Outlook Express, how to get rid of the Virus and where to download the patch for Microsoft so the same thing can not happen again. <> <> <> I'm deeply sorry about this inconvenience! I wish Microsoft would get there act together so things can not happen. 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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAA ------_=_NextPart_000_01C19EDC.9D518566-- From sjh@svana.org Mon Jan 21 17:07:25 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD344E55 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 17:07:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from capella.anu.edu.au (shiva.marian) [::ffff:150.203.160.18] by svana.org with asmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16SpLl-0005dz-00; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:03:45 +1100 Received: from sjh by shiva.marian with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 16SpJm-00011u-00 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:01:42 +1100 Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:01:42 +1100 From: Steven Hanley To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Correct way of using the orinoco_cs driver Message-ID: <20020122120142.A3920@shiva.marian> Reply-To: Steven Hanley References: <002001c1a1a2$16581610$1ef621cb@themaster> <20020120221115.C7453@svana.org> <1011528067.3c4ab1830b907@mail.pineview.net> <20020120232607.D7453@svana.org> <1011535940.3c4ad044e9bb3@mail.pineview.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1011535940.3c4ad044e9bb3@mail.pineview.net> User-Agent: Some Random Email Client Organization: much sought in this hectic world Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 12:42:20AM +1000, Mike O'Connor wrote: > I linked the include/asm and include/linux because thats what supposed to > happen. Must current Disto do not and this causes problem, at least thats what I > have seen from my reading of the linux kernel mail list. well lets see, Linus has often said, do not ship distributions with direct links to some specific kernel source headers, ship it with a snapshot that thew glibc people have created of the headers. The kernel (even a stable series) according to Linus has the right to change the way the headers would work, which can cause glibc and other parts of the systemn to be come severely messed up. No distributions do it anymore as Linus told them not to on pain of shit hitting the fan in a big way. If you do use whatever headers came with the latest kernel, go ahead but there is no guarantee things will work. /usr/include stuff should all come from glibc. If something needs the actual current kernel headers (say some kernel modules you compile outside the tree) or similar (user sace stuff should not be dependant on the current kernel headers, they should be dependant on the headers shipped with glibc, Linus has stated this many times over the years. So from time to time you may need to use some other header breifly for compilation (like the bug that was causing segfaults a few months ago with an old version of wireless tools when you didnt use the kenrel header) but this does not mean you should use all the kernel headers form the latest kernel that may o may not work with your userspace. Linus and other kernel people have said time and time again that they make no guarntees of behavior of user space for this, tit is up to the glibc people to proivide the interface (a stable working interface). So do otherwise at your own risk I suppose. See You Steve -- sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh Look Up In The Sky Is it a bird? No Is it a plane No Is it a small blue banana? Yes From dwayne@pobox.com Mon Jan 21 17:59:06 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from smtp01.iprimus.net.au (smtp01.iprimus.net.au [203.134.64.99]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F42334540 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 17:59:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox.com ([210.50.114.195]) by smtp01.iprimus.net.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4617); Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:55:25 +1100 Message-ID: <3C4CC62A.490CF8B5@pobox.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:53:46 +1100 From: dwayne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brett Lymn Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: Interesting Quick Thought References: <200201212150.IAA24311@mallee.awadi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jan 2002 01:55:26.0183 (UTC) FILETIME=[DC64E770:01C1A2E7] Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Brett Lymn wrote: > > According to dwayne: > > > >try reading a HTML-only message on a text terminal, bucko. > > > > Does anyone? Right this instant: no Quite often (more than once a week): yes > If I see a html mess I normally just delete the message > unread. Which, of course, is how we got to this point in the discussion. > If I feel particularly annoyed I send the message back with > surrounding 
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tags asking if they can read this crap. Wouldn't it be better if they just sent it as text? Dwayne From WuB@AUSTRALIA.Stortek.com Mon Jan 21 18:02:47 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from cyclone.stortek.com (cyclone.stortek.com [129.80.22.130]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19ADD412B for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 18:02:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from cyclone.stortek.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cyclone.stortek.com (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g0M1x7O09866 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 18:59:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from vinson-ether1.stortek.com (vinson.stortek.com [129.80.16.134]) by cyclone.stortek.com (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g0M1x6c09862 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 18:59:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from pacbridge.stortek.com (PacBridge.stortek.com [129.80.177.168]) by vinson-ether1.stortek.com (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g0M1x5vh025026 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 18:59:05 -0700 (MST) Received: by pacbridge.stortek.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:51:28 +1100 Message-ID: From: "Wu, Ben" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: Interesting Quick Thought Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:50:31 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Yup, and also HTML gets mangled by some digest processors, so you get plaintext HTML embedded inside the plaintext digest. Not being a browser myself, I find it a bit too much effort to interpret raw HTML. > -----Original Message----- > From: dwayne [mailto:dwayne@pobox.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 12:54 PM > To: Brett Lymn > Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org > Subject: Re: Interesting Quick Thought > > > Brett Lymn wrote: > > > > According to dwayne: > > > > > >try reading a HTML-only message on a text terminal, bucko. > > > > > > > Does anyone? > > Right this instant: no > > Quite often (more than once a week): yes > > > If I see a html mess I normally just delete the message unread. > > Which, of course, is how we got to this point in the discussion. > > > If I feel particularly annoyed I send the message back with > > surrounding 
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tags asking if they can read this crap. > > Wouldn't it be better if they just sent it as text? > > Dwayne > > From jason@air.net.au Mon Jan 21 19:19:23 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from river.redflex.com.au (mail.redflex.com.au [203.63.133.169]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45785415A for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 19:19:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from jasonh.air.net.au (rcs-125.comm-systems.redflex.com.au [192.168.88.125]) by river.redflex.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24263; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:15:32 +1100 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020122141405.00b13438@mailhub.air.net.au> X-Sender: jason@mailhub.air.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:15:30 +1100 To: melbwireless@melbwireless.dyndns.org, wireless@lists.samba.org From: Jason Hecker Subject: MMCX, MCX, SMA SMB Connector source Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: FYI, Johnson Components have all manner of SMA, SMB, MMCX and MCX connectors including reverse versions (probably very useful). Braemac sell them at http://www.braemac.com.au Johnson's site in the USA is http://www.johnsoncomp.com From MF180802@Exchange.Australia.NCR.COM Mon Jan 21 19:24:10 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from sausyd003.Australia.NCR.COM (tan7.ncr.com [192.127.94.7]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE25440D for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 19:24:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by sausyd003.australia.ncr.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:20:19 +1100 Message-ID: From: "Fox, Michael" To: Jason Hecker , melbwireless@melbwireless.dyndns.org, wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: MMCX, MCX, SMA SMB Connector source Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:20:18 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Is that braemac in Tempe, NSW? > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Hecker [mailto:jason@air.net.au] > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 1:16 PM > To: melbwireless@melbwireless.dyndns.org; wireless@lists.samba.org > Subject: MMCX, MCX, SMA SMB Connector source > > > FYI, Johnson Components have all manner of SMA, SMB, MMCX and MCX > connectors including reverse versions (probably very useful). > Braemac sell > them at http://www.braemac.com.au > > Johnson's site in the USA is http://www.johnsoncomp.com > > > From mike@pineview.net Tue Jan 22 00:34:57 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from ppro.pineview.net (isdn.pineview.net [150.101.6.12]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F4F044AF for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 00:33:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from themaster (themaster.pineview.net [203.33.246.30]) by ppro.pineview.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with SMTP id SAA08970 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 18:59:38 +1030 X-Authentication-Warning: ppro.pineview.net: Host themaster.pineview.net [203.33.246.30] claimed to be themaster Message-ID: <00a801c1a31e$dd470510$1ef621cb@themaster> From: "Mike O'Connor" To: References: <002001c1a1a2$16581610$1ef621cb@themaster> <20020120221115.C7453@svana.org> <1011528067.3c4ab1830b907@mail.pineview.net> <20020120232607.D7453@svana.org> <1011535940.3c4ad044e9bb3@mail.pineview.net> <20020122120142.A3920@shiva.marian> Subject: Re: Correct way of using the orinoco_cs driver Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 18:59:09 +1030 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Steve Thanks for you comments, it would seem that I had a misunderstanding of the situation. Cheers Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Hanley" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 11:31 AM Subject: Re: Correct way of using the orinoco_cs driver > On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 12:42:20AM +1000, Mike O'Connor wrote: > > I linked the include/asm and include/linux because thats what supposed to > > happen. Must current Disto do not and this causes problem, at least thats what I > > have seen from my reading of the linux kernel mail list. > > well lets see, Linus has often said, do not ship distributions with direct > links to some specific kernel source headers, ship it with a snapshot that > thew glibc people have created of the headers. > > The kernel (even a stable series) according to Linus has the right to change > the way the headers would work, which can cause glibc and other parts of the > systemn to be come severely messed up. > > No distributions do it anymore as Linus told them not to on pain of shit > hitting the fan in a big way. > > If you do use whatever headers came with the latest kernel, go ahead but there > is no guarantee things will work. > > /usr/include stuff should all come from glibc. If something needs the actual > current kernel headers (say some kernel modules you compile outside the > tree) or similar (user sace stuff should not be dependant on the current > kernel headers, they should be dependant on the headers shipped with glibc, > Linus has stated this many times over the years. > > So from time to time you may need to use some other header breifly for > compilation (like the bug that was causing segfaults a few months ago with an > old version of wireless tools when you didnt use the kenrel header) but this > does not mean you should use all the kernel headers form the latest kernel > that may o may not work with your userspace. > > Linus and other kernel people have said time and time again that they make no > guarntees of behavior of user space for this, tit is up to the glibc people to > proivide the interface (a stable working interface). > > So do otherwise at your own risk I suppose. > > See You > Steve > > -- > sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh > Look Up In The Sky > Is it a bird? No > Is it a plane No > Is it a small blue banana? > Yes From falbinali@yahoo.com Tue Jan 22 12:43:30 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from web11602.mail.yahoo.com (web11602.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.54]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 37FAD5082 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:33:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020122203005.87676.qmail@web11602.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.196.112.204] by web11602.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:30:05 PST Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:30:05 -0800 (PST) From: Subject: AP IP and Mobile Units IPs To: wireless@lists.samba.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I need your help!. Is there a way that allows me to know the IP address of the AP that I am connected to, iwconfig only has the MAC address!. And on the AP, how can I know the IPs of the clients connected to the AP. I want to be able to extract this information at runtime while my program is running to process it, I am using Linux machines but I have no problem switching to windows if thats more convenient. Thank you, Fahd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From jonesmb@arthem.com Tue Jan 22 13:08:47 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mail01g.rapidsite.net (mail01g.rapidsite.net [207.158.192.232]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 032695134 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:54:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.arthem.com (209.238.115.243) by mail01g.rapidsite.net (RS ver 1.0.62s) with SMTP id 025974 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 15:49:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020122144323.0314fb80@arthem.com> X-Sender: jonesmb@arthem.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:50:23 -0600 To: wireless@lists.samba.org From: JonesMB Subject: Re: AP IP and Mobile Units IPs In-Reply-To: <20020122203005.87676.qmail@web11602.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Loop-Detect: 1 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: >Is there a way that allows me to know the IP address of the AP that I am >connected to, iwconfig only has the MAC address! using a combination of the information available from iwconfig and your ARP table, you should be able to find the IP address that corresponds to a particular MAC address. jmb From kleptog@svana.org Tue Jan 22 14:29:58 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from svana.org (svana.org [210.9.66.30]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3EDD4629 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:28:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from kleptog by svana.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16T9LY-0007KC-00; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 09:24:52 +1100 Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 09:24:52 +1100 From: Martijn van Oosterhout To: JonesMB Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: AP IP and Mobile Units IPs Message-ID: <20020123092452.A28072@svana.org> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout References: <20020122203005.87676.qmail@web11602.mail.yahoo.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20020122144323.0314fb80@arthem.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020122144323.0314fb80@arthem.com>; from jonesmb@arthem.com on Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 02:50:23PM -0600 Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 02:50:23PM -0600, JonesMB wrote: > > >Is there a way that allows me to know the IP address of the AP that I am > >connected to, iwconfig only has the MAC address! > > using a combination of the information available from iwconfig and your ARP > table, you should be able to find the IP address that corresponds to a > particular MAC address. I'm not sure if it is used at all, but if an AP were acting like a bridge then there are two things to consider: 1) The AP need not have an IP address at all 2) Machines on the other side of the AP would all have the MAC address of the AP in your ARP cache. I'm not sure whether it actually works this way though. -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Terrorists can only take my life. Only my government can take my freedom. From lars@aronsson.se Tue Jan 22 14:52:36 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from levi.aronsson.se (as2-5-6.asp.s.bonet.se [194.237.241.23]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB97416E for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:52:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from lars@localhost) by levi.aronsson.se (8.11.0/8.9.3) id g0MMm0V11683; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 23:48:00 +0100 Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 23:48:00 +0100 Message-Id: <200201222248.g0MMm0V11683@levi.aronsson.se> X-Authentication-Warning: levi.aronsson.se: lars set sender to lars@aronsson.se using -f From: Lars Aronsson Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To: wireless@lists.samba.org Cc: Joe.Maher@actewagl.com.au In-reply-to: <1F38C688BB14D4118B8A00D0B73E48870107EF7A@mail1.actew.oz.au> (Joe.Maher@actewagl.com.au) Subject: Re: I may have sent you a virus! References: <1F38C688BB14D4118B8A00D0B73E48870107EF7A@mail1.actew.oz.au> Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: It would be nice if the list owner would block attachments from being distributed over the mailing list. (Nobody will believe me when I tell them there was a guy who sent out MS Word files to warn against a virus... :-) -- Lars Aronsson tel +46-70-7891609 http://aronsson.se/ http://elektrosmog.nu/ http://susning.nu/ From jw@icp.net.au Tue Jan 22 15:49:27 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from icp-gate.icp.net.au (unknown [202.139.152.15]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5ECB442A for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 15:49:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by ICP-GATE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 10:45:41 +1100 Message-ID: <516B1564A06AD511871F0002B3487D2604011F@ICP-GATE> From: John Wan To: "'wireless@lists.samba.org'" Subject: excess stock of interbridge access point Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 10:45:38 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: To All, We have a limited number of ZCom XI1500 interbridge access point units which was left over from a project. The XI1500 can be configured as ether an interbridge or an access point. We like to sell them for $800.00 each add 10% for GST. The units are brand new and have a one year limited warranty. With Regards John Wan ICP Global Pty Ltd Industrial Computer Products Suite 507 Eastgardens Office Tower 152 Bunnerong Road Pagewood (Eastgardens), NSW 2035 Sydney, Australia Tel (Int + 61) 2 9314 2092 Fax (Int +61) 2 9344 9537 http://www.icp.net.au From WuB@AUSTRALIA.Stortek.com Tue Jan 22 19:23:05 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from cyclone.stortek.com (cyclone.stortek.com [129.80.22.130]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A5D4454 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 19:23:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from cyclone.stortek.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cyclone.stortek.com (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g0N3JKO22263 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 20:19:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from vinson-ether1.stortek.com (vinson.stortek.com [129.80.16.134]) by cyclone.stortek.com (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g0N3JJc22258 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 20:19:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from pacbridge.stortek.com (PacBridge.stortek.com [129.80.177.168]) by vinson-ether1.stortek.com (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g0N3JIvh007764 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 20:19:19 -0700 (MST) Received: by pacbridge.stortek.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 14:11:39 +1100 Message-ID: From: "Wu, Ben" To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: AP IP and Mobile Units IPs Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 14:10:42 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Martijn, You are dead right. For the AP to transfer data across two dissimilar media (mediums?), with different MAC types, it will need to be at least a bridge, or it could be a router (or even a firewall if you wanted). But yeah, an AP will most probably behave as a bridge between wired and wireless. Some bridge designes can use the same MAC address on both interfaces, some can do one MAC address each. It all depends on the implementation. They both work. Since my AP is also a NAT router, it can do both bridging and routing, and you can configure it various ways (it's an Orinoco AP-1000). The way I have it currently set up is it bridges ethernet and NAT routes 56K dial-up PPP. The bridge in mine is a transparent bridge, so I see the MAC addresses of stations on the other side (100BaseT-802.11b), which the bridge is forwarding to me on this side, etc etc. Regards Ben Wu > -----Original Message----- > From: Martijn van Oosterhout [mailto:kleptog@svana.org] > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:25 AM > To: JonesMB > Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org > Subject: Re: AP IP and Mobile Units IPs > > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 02:50:23PM -0600, JonesMB wrote: > > > > >Is there a way that allows me to know the IP address of > the AP that I > > >am > > >connected to, iwconfig only has the MAC address! > > > > using a combination of the information available from iwconfig and > > your ARP > > table, you should be able to find the IP address that > corresponds to a > > particular MAC address. > > I'm not sure if it is used at all, but if an AP were acting > like a bridge then there are two things to consider: > > 1) The AP need not have an IP address at all > 2) Machines on the other side of the AP would all have the > MAC address of > the AP in your ARP cache. > > I'm not sure whether it actually works this way though. > -- > Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > > Terrorists can only take my life. Only my government can take my > > freedom. > > From dane@baydolphin.com.au Tue Jan 22 19:26:29 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from bne010m.server-mail.com (bne010m.server-mail.com [203.147.241.17]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 13A2E4103 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 19:26:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 17812 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2002 03:22:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO webmail.server-web.com) (202.139.235.56) by bne010m.server-mail.com with SMTP; 23 Jan 2002 03:22:44 -0000 From: "dane allison" Reply-To: dane@baydolphin.com.au To: wireless@lists.samba.org Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 13:22:44 +1000 Subject: WaveLan cards X-Mailer: DMailWeb Web to Mail Gateway 2.2i, http://netwinsite.com/top_mail.htm Message-id: <3c4f29a4.f6.0@webmail.server-web.com> X-User-Info: 203.52.9.182 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I am interested in the WaveLan 2mbit cards mentioned on the air.net.au page. I am looking to link 2 networks which are about 300m away, and these cards would work out to be ALOT cheaper than buying a PCMCIA 11mbit card and ISA adapter and pigtail adapter.... A few questions. Do these cards fit into a standard ISA slot ? (not sure what full length ISA means ..) will these cards communicate with a 802.11 11mbit card ? (if i later wanted to connect to brismesh which is using 802.11 cards) do these cards have a N connector on the rear for an antenna cable to go straight off ? Any info is greatly appreciated dane allison From tlangdon@atctraining.com.au Tue Jan 22 19:37:34 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au (gw2.atctraining.com.au [210.8.174.5]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48BD5422E for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 19:37:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by atc-mail-db.atctraining.com.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 14:33:21 +1100 Message-ID: From: Tony Langdon To: "'dane@baydolphin.com.au'" , wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: RE: WaveLan cards Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 14:33:13 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Do these cards fit into a standard ISA slot ? (not sure what > full length ISA > means ..) Standard ISA slot, but needs a lot of length (full length means can take the largest ISA cards). > > will these cards communicate with a 802.11 11mbit card ? (if > i later wanted > to connect to brismesh which is using 802.11 cards) No, they're proprietry and pre 802.11 standards. > > do these cards have a N connector on the rear for an antenna > cable to go straight > off ? No idea on this one, never seen a card... --- Outgoing mail has been scanned for viruses Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.314 / Virus Database: 175 - Release Date: 11-Jan-02 This correspondence is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information or both. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this correspondence in error, please immediately delete it from your system and notify the sender. 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From grail@goldweb.com.au Tue Jan 22 20:20:21 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from merlin.emma.house (CPE-203-51-30-27.nsw.bigpond.net.au [203.51.30.27]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1764569 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 20:20:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from pinky.emma.house (pinky.emma.house [10.1.254.205]) by merlin.emma.house (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7DBD6084D; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:16:35 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:15:53 +1100 Subject: Re: WaveLan cards Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v480) Cc: wireless@lists.samba.org To: dane@baydolphin.com.au From: Alex Satrapa In-Reply-To: <3c4f29a4.f6.0@webmail.server-web.com> Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.480) Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wednesday, January 23, 2002, at 02:22 , dane allison wrote: > Do these cards fit into a standard ISA slot ? (not sure what full > length ISA > means ..) "Full length" = 340mm > do these cards have a N connector on the rear for an antenna cable to > go straight > off ? No. They have SMZ connectors. predator@cat.org.au told us it (he? she?) could get them from Rojone: http://lists.samba.org/pipermail/wireless/2000-April/001411.html Note the discussion about 50Ohm vs 75Ohm impedance. Alex From andrew@donehue.net Wed Jan 23 04:14:33 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from mta02bw.bigpond.com (mta02bw.bigpond.com [139.134.6.34]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0E0467A for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 04:14:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([144.135.24.72]) by mta02bw.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GQE4TS00.JJZ for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 22:17:52 +1000 Received: from CPE-203-51-28-28.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([203.51.28.28]) by bwmam02.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V3.0h 11/2001948); 23 Jan 2002 22:10:44 Received: from donehue.net ([192.168.0.26]) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3+3.2W/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA10285 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 23:12:52 +1100 Message-ID: <3C4EA7F2.6030508@donehue.net> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 23:09:22 +1100 From: Andrew User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011226 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: just signed up... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ECS-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi All, I just joined this mailing list, and was hoping on asking a couple of questions... How far (and at what speed) do the recommended cards work at? I have a friend who lives about 200-300 metres away from me, but he is over a hill (will that work?). What kind of network activities take place? I'm interested in file sharing - things like linux distros etc. It says the cards are worth about $150 - but what is the total cost i'm looking at? And for the reference I live in Aranda (On the belconnen side of the hill). Cheers, Andrew From pf-wireless@mirkwood.net Thu Jan 24 00:04:39 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from eriador.mirkwood.net (bgp547179bgs.ewndsr01.nj.comcast.net [68.38.163.238]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A8B445A6 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 00:04:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 22843 invoked by uid 500); 24 Jan 2002 08:02:50 -0000 Date: 24 Jan 2002 03:02:50 -0500 Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 03:02:50 -0500 From: PinkFreud To: wireless@lists.samba.org Subject: orinoco_cs: Resource temporarily unavailable Message-ID: <20020124080250.GA22743@eriador.mirkwood.net> Mail-Followup-To: PinkFreud , wireless@lists.samba.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I am not subscribed to this list, so please cc: me in any replies. Thanks! Hey all. I'm attempting to upgrade to 2.4.17 on this laptop (currently using 2.2.20 with wvlan_cs), but orinoco_cs doesn't seem to be working all that well: Jan 24 01:45:05 edoras cardmgr[335]: socket 1: Lucent Technologies WaveLAN/IEEE Adapter Jan 24 01:45:05 edoras cardmgr[335]: executing: 'modprobe hermes' Jan 24 01:45:05 edoras cardmgr[335]: executing: 'modprobe orinoco' Jan 24 01:45:05 edoras cardmgr[335]: executing: 'modprobe orinoco_cs' Jan 24 01:45:06 edoras cardmgr[335]: get dev info on socket 1 failed: Resource temporarily unavailable wvlan_cs works - I've been using it for some time sucessfully. Jan 24 02:32:03 edoras kernel: wvlan_cs: index 0x01: Vcc 5.0, irq 3, io 0x0100-0x013f Jan 24 02:32:03 edoras kernel: wvlan_cs: Found firmware 0x40034 (vendor 1) - Firmware capabilities : 1-0-0-1-1 cardctl ident returns: Socket 0: no product info available Socket 1: product info: "Lucent Technologies", "WaveLAN/IEEE", "Version 01.01", "" manfid: 0x0156, 0x0002 function: 6 (network) Any help would be appreciated. -- Mike Edwards Brainbench certified Master Linux Administrator http://www.brainbench.com/transcript.jsp?pid=158188 ----------------------------------- Unsolicited advertisments to this address are not welcome. From jstrom@mail.cern.ch Thu Jan 24 00:09:25 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: wireless@lists.samba.org Received: from smtp3.cern.ch (smtp3.cern.ch [137.138.131.164]) by lists.samba.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2579D44AA for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 00:09:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from lxplus027.cern.ch (IDENT:root@lxplus027.cern.ch [137.138.139.122]) by smtp3.cern.ch (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g0O85DaB000490; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:05:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (jstrom@localhost) by lxplus027.cern.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA08432; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:05:11 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: lxplus027.cern.ch: jstrom owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:05:11 +0100 (CET) From: Jonny Torvald Strom X-Sender: jstrom@lxplus027.cern.ch To: wireless@lists.samba.org Cc: jeesanthe@static046.radionet.fi Subject: Hard lockups with orinoco driver. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org Errors-To: wireless-admin@lists.samba.org X-BeenThere: wireless@lists.samba.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Wireless networking in Australia List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello I have an orinoco wireless lan card that I get hard lockups with within 2 to 3 minutes after I power on the computer. I have tried to change the card and the controller but the same things happens, the computer don't have any hardware problems because it has been running for 3 mounts without a reebot before I tried the wireless lan card. First I tried with the wvlan driver and I the get a lockup with it in within 2 to 3 minutes as with the orinoco_cs driver. When lockup happens I see this and nothing else printed in a text console: eth1: Error -110 writing packet header to BAP and then the only thing I can do is to reset the computer. So dose anybody have any suggestion what I might try or if you need any additional information please cc to me at Jonny.Torvald.Strom@cern.ch because I am not on the wireless mailing list. Below is some information about the computer where the lookups happens: Cheers Jonny cat /proc/ioports 0000-001f : dma1 0020-003f : pic1 0040-005f : timer 0060-006f : keyboard 0080-008f : dma page reg 00a0-00bf : pic2 00c0-00df : dma2 00f0-00ff : fpu 0100-013f : orinoco_cs 0170-0177 : ide1 01f0-01f7 : ide0 02f8-02ff : serial(auto) 0300-030f : eth0 0376-0376 : ide1 0378-037a : parport0 03c0-03df : vga+ 03f6-03f6 : ide0 03f8-03ff : serial(auto) 0cf8-0cff : PCI conf1 4000-403f : Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 ACPI 5000-501f : Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 ACPI 9000-9fff : PCI Bus #01 9000-90ff : ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage IIC AGP a000-a01f : Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 USB a400-a403 : Cirrus Logic CL 6729 a400-a401 : i82365 a800-a83f : Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] a800-a83f : es1371 ac00-ac07 : Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 / HPT370 b000-b003 : Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 / HPT370 b400-b4ff : Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 / HPT370 b400-b407 : ide2 b410-b4ff : HPT366 b800-b807 : Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 / HPT370 (#2) bc00-bc03 : Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 / HPT370 (#2) c000-c0ff : Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 / HPT370 (#2) c000-c007 : ide3 c010-c0ff : HPT366 f000-f00f : Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 IDE f000-f007 : ide0 f008-f00f : ide1 cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 0: 20347 XT-PIC timer 1: 62 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 5: 311 XT-PIC eth0 9: 767 XT-PIC i82365, orinoco_cs 10: 0 XT-PIC es1371 12: 53 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse 14: 11576 XT-PIC ide0 15: 5 XT-PIC ide1 NMI: 0 LOC: 20310 ERR: 0 MIS: 0 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX Host bridge (rev 03) Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR- 00: 86 80 90 71 06 00 10 a2 03 00 00 06 00 20 00 00 10: 08 00 00 d8 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 30: 00 00 00 00 a0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 40: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 50: 0c 8a 00 fe 00 00 00 09 03 10 11 13 00 00 00 00 60: 10 10 18 20 20 20 20 20 00 aa ea a3 0a a0 00 00 70: 20 1f 0a 38 52 00 00 01 06 ff 10 38 00 00 00 00 80: 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 90: 98 66 00 00 04 61 00 00 00 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 a0: 02 00 10 00 03 02 00 1f 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 b0: 80 20 00 00 30 00 00 00 00 00 5e 01 20 10 00 00 c0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 18 0c ff ff 7f 00 00 00 d0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0c 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0: 4c ad ff bb 8a 3e 00 80 2c d3 f7 cf 9d 3e 00 00 f0: 40 01 00 00 00 f8 00 60 20 0f 00 00 00 00 00 00 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX AGP bridge (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- Status: Cap- 66Mhz+ UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR- Reset- FastB2B+ 00: 86 80 91 71 07 01 20 02 03 00 04 06 00 40 01 00 10: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 01 20 90 90 a0 02 20: 00 dc f0 dd 00 de f0 de 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 30: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 88 00 40: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 50: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 60: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 70: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 90: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 a0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 b0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 c0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 d0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 f0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02) Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle+ MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR- TAbort- SERR- TAbort- SERR- TAbort- SERR- TAbort- SERR- TAbort- SERR- TAbort- SERR- TAbort- SERR- TAbort- SERR- [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [5c] Power Management version 1 Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-) Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME- 00: 02 10 5a 47 87 00 90 02 7a 00 00 03 08 20 00 00 10: 08 00 00 de 01 90 00 00 00 00 00 dd 00 00 00 00 20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 10 84 00 30: 00 00 00 00 5c 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0a 01 08 00 40: 0c 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 50: 02 5c 10 00 01 00 00 ff 00 00 00 00 01 00 01 00 60: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 70: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 90: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 a0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 b0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 c0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 d0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 f0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00